Orient Ray II Dive Watch | The Gorgeous Blue Diver

[@WondersofWatchdom]

Links: Orient Ray II amzn.to/37PaH2H Orient Ray II, rubber wristband amzn.to/3rxqon4 Orient Mako II USA (sapphire crystal w solid endlinks) amzn.to/34HzDas Weishi 1000 timegrapher machine amzn.to/37P8LqL As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchase ___ Photo Credits: Utagawa Hiroshige, Japanese, Tokyo (Edo) 1797?1858 Tokyo (Edo), Warrior Riding Black Horse along the Sea Shore, ca. 1835, Polychrome woodblock print; ink and color on paper, H. 8 1/2 in. (21.6 cm); W. 11 1/2 in. (29.2 cm). The Metropolitan Museum of Art, New York. Fletcher Fund, 1928 (JP1498). Public Domain. Yōsai Nobukazu 楊斎延一 (Japanese, 1872-1944) Meiji period (1868-1912) The Metropolitan Museum of Art, New York, Public domain. “Channel Markers” (Miotsukushi) Nanbokuchō (1336-92) or Muromachi (1392-1573) period, The Metropolitan Museum of Art, New York, Public domain. ____

[@harrickvharrick3957]

You shouldn't unscrew the crown in a wet environment (which would be a common reason for having wet hands) so it is probably not a bad thing that you can't, or at least that it ain't easy.

[@kingadjust5422]

I'm getting this exact watch this weekend also is this watch really as good as a $1,000 watch 😎

[@garrettalvero7170]

Excellent Review. Great watch to mod. Ebay now sells sapphire exhibition casebacks for the Mako/Ray. Nice mod for a new look. They are also coming out with aftermarket crowns fyi.

[@leemoore9933]

@@kingadjust5422 What do you think??

[@kingadjust5422]

@@leemoore9933 lol I actually changed my mind about getting the watch so unfortunately I can't tell you 😂 😎

[@kelvinlee8919]

Fun fact about the Orient logo : the lion on the left symbolizes the company, while the second lion symbolizes their dealers and partners. The crown that can be seen above the shield symbolizes the customer. In other words, the emblem is supposed to represent the Orient’s respect for its customers and the desire to provide them with quality products.

[@garrettalvero7170]

Ebay now sells Exhibition casebacks for the Ray/Mako

[@qingyumao348]

It's probably inspired by the "Orient Express" train logo.

[@baronedipiemonte3990]

My Orient Ray II will be arriving next week. I'm looking forward to it ! My "treat" for having survived Hurricane Ida, LoL. I Appreciate the info on the Orient Logo/Coat of Arms, as having spent 20 years searching for & finding my TRUE family CoA, I've developed an interest in those...

[@kelvinlee8919]

@@baronedipiemonte3990 hey that's nice to hear. Enjoy your watch as its beautiful~

[@7mgeller]

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[@Cuandoman]

Had mine for 2 years. Upgraded the crystal with a sapphire, bracelet with a miltat bracelet, and recently, due to heavy wear, upgraded to a bezel that accepts a SKX ceramic insert. Basically I made a Kamasu, but it's a Ray. Worth every penny.

[@Lozza117]

Link for bracelets?

[@mr.thompson9447]

@@Lozza117 I purchased the MiLTAT Watch Band compatible with Seiko Orient Mako II, Ray II, 22mm Super-O Boyer Solid Screw-Links on Amazon for 87 bucks and am very happy with it. It fit the case perfect.

[@Lozza117]

@@mr.thompson9447 nice bro habe you got a link

[@mr.thompson9447]

@@Lozza117 KZbin doesn't like me to send a link just copy and paste my description and you'll find it.

[@joelf5565]

@Cuandoman Did you have any issues with the water resistance after changing the crystal? I’ve had mine for two years too and only issue is many hairline scratches on the abhorrent mineral crystal.

[@craig2100]

I've owned mone for 2 years and still love it. Punches well above its weight in value, especially sub $200. I'll have this piece forever. It's a win win scenario, which I can't say for other watches.

[@duke6j]

Enjoy!

[@garrettalvero7170]

Ebay now sells Exhibition casebacks for the Ray/Mako. Nice mod for a new look.

[@jamesjustin6001]

I bought this watch a year ago. I have put it on a nato strap and it has become my daily beater. Solid as a rock, reliable and easily legible. I would recommend this watch to everyone.

[@Dochorahan]

I had new seamasters, aqua racers, and micro brand divers. The Original Ray brought me joy like no other. Highly recommended. I have a Ray II on the way now! Just goes to show that you don’t need to spend thousands to be satisfied. I would sell all the others and keep the Orient if I had to.

[@andromedagodit2492]

Touché. Agreed my friend. 😊

[@glcrazeefoo]

I've had this Orient Ray II for about two months now and really cherish it! It's a qality watch, eye catching but not too flashy. Holds up great at the beach and the accuracy is well within acceptable limits. It's probably the best bang for your buck diver in my opinion! Thanks for the video, it influenced me to give this watch its place in my young collection.

[@alexescobedo5687]

I’ve had mine for 4yrs it’s my everyday wear true work horse of a watch also might I point out the lume is just as amazing as it was the first day I put it on. In fact the lume shines longer and brighter than my Breitling Super Ocean ii 44mm

[@alextomlinson1725]

Probably the best value dive watch now that Seiko have moved their divers upmarket into the Prospex range. Absolutely love mine. Excellent review.

[@garrettalvero7170]

Ebay now sells Exhibition casebacks for the Ray/Mako. Nice mod for a new look.

[@dmv3373]

great review! i've owned this watch for about 4.5 years and it has been performing perfectly. i had a friend regulate it for me and it holds at about +/- 5 seconds day and i'm fine with that. The crown is a bit hard to grasp but no big deal and the bezel is hard to turn HOWEVER if the watch is wet especially under the bezel, it turns super smoooooothly, makes sense since it's a diver watch even though it's not ISO rated. I've only ever owned 2 dive watches, my Ray 2 and a Mido Ocean Star, the Mido was beautiful and a better watch all around on paper, however it's gone and the Ray 2 is still around.

[@duke6j]

I like the way they placed a metal border around the day-date window. Nice little touch!

[@deathb4digital]

Good review. My example has been very reliable. The day wheel is in fact Eng/Spanish. Vie=Viernes. Ven=Vendredi.

[@jesstotten5571]

Thanks, very surprised to hear him say French!

[@ChristianMONTRE]

Hi , I did a very nice review of the Orient Ray 3 on my Chanel. Welcome 😊

[@rasstriga]

One of the best Ray II reviews

[@WondersofWatchdom]

Thanks I appreciate that!

[@jonthedoors]

I've had mine for about 2 years now and I love it. The bezel does loosen up a little over time with regular use, but it's still stiff

[@JumpingWatermelons]

I looked at one of these briefly in a store tonight. I thought it seemed substantially better than another Orient I compared it to. The bezel felt good. Bracelet seems ok, with a nice clasp. Fits smaller wrists really well. Can't believe how low the price is for some color versions of this in the U.S. ($135!?)

[@samuelclaessens7699]

Even tough I don’t even own a Orient I am addicted to them! Here in the Netherlands It’s VERY difficult to get one, and if you get one it’s 2 times as expansive then in the US (don’t ask me why). I really want a Bambino in 36.4 mm and I’d like a Orient star… Now this watch is added to that list!

[@WondersofWatchdom]

Bambinos are a great value too, and such a classic design.

[@p5ychonaut]

Man, you are Bob Ross of horology. It's a great pleasure to listen to your calm voice and on point observations. I know pleasures should be served with moderation but please do publish your reviews (of happy little watches) more often. A firm handshake from Poland!

[@iRevolVeR21]

i have this watch modded with a double dome sapphire crystal, coin edge bezel, sapphire pepsi bezel insert and solid link oyster bracelet.... looks fing amazing

[@Crazy09starkillor]

Can you post a video showing it? Very interested in seeing it

[@michaelhargis7036]

I have the Kamasu, what was the price for the double dome sapphire, if you don't mind me asking. I may do the same with my Kamasu.

[@CCBovell]

Welp, I didn’t know I was going to buy a new orient any time soon but I just placed an order for a Ray 2. Thanks for the nudge!

[@kelvinlee8919]

I've been watching your channel for a while now and really enjoy your commentary on all your watches. My fav is the Orient Star Classic video and this one is really entertaining as well. I feel you have a gentlemen's style and pacing for commentary which makes it relaxing to watch. I'm already looking forward to the next watch video!

[@WondersofWatchdom]

Thanks for the feedback, I appreciate that. Someone earlier wrote that they watch my videos in 1.5x speed (lol), but fast-paced is not my style.

[@rbmwiv]

I have the same watch I put a coin edge bezel with a ceramic lumed Pepsi bezel and a jubilee bracelet. I am going to add a domed sapphire crystal to it next. Great watch.

[@sliderulelover]

I have the Ray II and really enjoy it. It has taken about 6 months for it to break in. The initial accuracy was plus 12 seconds per day but over the months of wearing it, it now is minus 2 seconds per day for the last month. So, I think it has settled in. One of the reasons I bought it was the AWESOME lume. It is readable 8 plus hours, so when I'm in bed, I always know what time it is. For me, that's a very important thing to know.

[@thehistoryprof6750]

I have many watches. I agree with your negatives and have the Kamasu as well. After wearing both the Ray 2 has become my favorite. I love the downward slope of the bezel, the high polish highlights on the bracelet and the look of the smaller crown...also, no problems with my mineral crystal. And the lume rocks.

[@exexpat11]

Ray II on Amazon for $130-$139. I did not want another Dive Watch but I could not pass the price and I love Orient watches. Very happy with mine. I do not have a small wrist and like a snug fit so it fits like a glove on the tightest setting. I can barely tell it is Blue except in very bright light at an angle. The crown is awful but I should not have to mess with it too much. I noticed that they have really cleaned up their movement from your video. The older ones look kind of shabby. The new one looks shiny and has their name on it. Very good touch. I am not going to baby it. You should see my 1980's SK Diver with the Plexiglass Crystal. Looks like it went through a War but is still worn.

[@WondersofWatchdom]

Nice! I love to hear about it when people wear their watches and don't baby them.

[@bhque]

This is my everyday beater watch. I have the black dial which looks very similar to the Submarina. I was one of the lucky ones in so far as the movement is very accurate hence why it rarely leaves my wrist. If you're looking for an all-rounder Automatic in-house movement then this has to be on your radar. Pull the trigger you won't regret it :)

[@waynebrookes4309]

Crown has always put me off this one. Love the invicta though, despite the hate, at 70-80 in the sales on Amazon you just can't beat them. Nothing comes close in automatic.

[@michaelhargis7036]

I have an Invicta, $59 off of JOMAshop. I've had it 6 months and love the damn thing. It's amazingly accurate and looks good. No shame here.

[@garrettalvero7170]

Ebay now sells sapphire exhibition casebacks for the Mako/Ray. Nice mod for a new look. They are also coming out with aftermarket crowns.

[@samphillips4925]

I have had mine for about 6 months and I love it. Haven't had very many scratches on the cristal, so it might come down to manufacture differences. I took off the bezel and gave it a light coating of lithium grease and that seems to help. It runs a minute fast per week.

[@garrettalvero7170]

Ebay now sells sapphire Exhibition casebacks for the Ray/Mako. Nice mod for a new look. MoonFang is also coming out with a better crown.

[@midwestgent9618]

Great video and very comprehensive overview. With the SKX out of production officially and climbing to crazy prices, this is definitely now the king of the budget diver segment (I see anywhewre from $115-$140). I've owned this watch for over year, no problems with the crystal and a solid performer. I upgraded the strap to a 316L stainless steel oyster style strap with solid end links, and it's just great - people definitely think it's a serious watch. I recently thought about selling it, but frankly there are few things that would really be an upgrade unless you want to go up to an Oris Aquis or Longines Hydroconquest.

[@WondersofWatchdom]

It was a sad day when the SKX was replaced by a push-crown Seiko 5. Nice looking watch, but not even close in features.

[@1968jpy]

I recently acquired a new Ray 2 Orange dial watch off Amazon for only $161 . It’s definitely an amazing 🤩 watch for price paid 👍🏻

[@bigfootsburneraccount9160]

Had one since 2017 still looks great works great

[@pavelkravtsov5258]

I swapped out my Chrystal to double dome AR sapphire Chrystal. Looks so much better and the crystal is scratch resistant! I love Orient watches! I have a bambino 2 as well.

[@victormartinezbojorquez847]

where can I find a crystal like that?

[@mrjasonrowland]

This was my first auto some years ago. Still have it and still wear it. I modded the heck out of it. New bezel, new lumed ceramic insert, new AR coated sapphire, and new bracelet. It’s still under $250 all in, but looks and feels like much, much more. Agreed. The dial is a stunner. Agreed. The crown is a weak spot here.

[@garrettalvero7170]

Ebay now sells sapphire Exhibition casebacks for the Ray/Mako. Nice mod for a new look. MoonFang is also coming out with a better crown.

[@nickv4073]

I have the original Ray I with the extra crown for the day of the week,. Even after many years, its still my number one go to watch.

[@Alexander-kb9hs]

Guys I got this GEM last week. I’m new to wrist watches and I don’t have deep pockets. This time piece is doing +1 seconds a day after a week of daily wear. The rest of my collection is: •Seiko SARB35 •Hamilton Khaki King •Bulova Marine Star All of which have a price tag four times as much as the Orient and none of them come close to the time of the Orient. Needless to say I just ordered a second one with a black dial. $117 blue dial. $133 black dial. I’M A FAN.

[@laurasanchez7105]

Getting this for my boyfriend, he likes to swim but he said he wanted a waterproof watch that still looks luxurious but he hasn't had much time to find one yet. This is probably one of the best I've found for a reasonable price :)

[@harperblackson4688]

I have been using my Ray II since 2 years ago, I upgraded the crystal to sapphire and mod the bezel to sea dweller bezel style from dlw watch (it fits all sxk ceramic bezel insert mod). Really amazing watch!

[@mikev1681]

So you bought the sea dweller bezel and also a skx ceramic bezel insert on dlw? I would like to change bezel it’s the only thing I dislike about my ray. Thanks in advance for any info on this!

[@harperblackson4688]

@@mikev1681 yes, long island watch, namoki, dlw, crystaltimes... they all sell the bezel mod for orient ray / mako I and II. it will fit seiko skx bezel insert. you could get a ceramic bezel insert for seiko skx and put it in nicely!! goodluck

[@stauguastine]

Thanks for the review on the Orient Ray II. I purchased one and have had it about two months now and love it. I have been keeping an eye on the crystal based on your review. So far no scratches and I wear it almost daily. I had the Invicta Pro Diver, which is a great watch given the price point, and decided to pass that one on to my grandson as his first diver and kept the Orient. Yes, I like it that much more. The movement has been running about 5 seconds a day fast, which is very impressive for a watch at that price point. The Invicta was running about 10 seconds a day fast. The Orient is a far better watch than the Invicta but for about $60 more in cost I guess that stands to reason.

[@WondersofWatchdom]

Nice! Glad to hear you are enjoying the watch.

[@stauguastine]

@@WondersofWatchdom I wanted to give you an update now that I am into the 6th month of owning the Orient Ray II watch. So far no scratches in the crystal, which is an absolute miracle for me as I tend to be rough on crystals. However, I have changed my habits on watch wearing to help preserve the crystal since I spent about $300 on watch crystal replacements and services for the other watches in my collection. Yes, I tend to be a little picky. I just received today the Orient Kamasu with the sapphire crystal. I also ordered it in blue based on your review of the Ray II since the Kamasu offered the same blue dial and bezel. It is an absolutely beautiful watch. I don't know how I missed it but as far as the spring bar comments you made. As far as I am concerned I am in agreement with you, with no issues with them, and these Orient watches are the easiest watches I have had in adjusting the bracelets to my size. I also agree that if people are bending them they are doing something totally wrong. My grandson has been taking excellent care of his Invicta Pro Diver, I did polish some scratches out on the crystal for him while he was out visiting for the holidays, and none were too over the top and were normal for a watch being worn every day. His birthday is in July and I am going to order him the Kamasu from Orient, the trick will be to find out what color he would prefer without giving away what his birthday present will be. LOL I really appreciate your reviews. I am curious to know and will search your videos to find out, but have you done a review on the Kamasu from Orient?

[@slaviivanov510]

I am so happy that you made another video! I really like your reviews and the way you look at things! Wish you all the best. Waiting for the next video!

[@WondersofWatchdom]

Thanks I appreciate that!

[@vulekv93]

@@WondersofWatchdom I Second Slavi's sentiment. You are the reason I got my Vostok Amphibia, thank you man!

[@MikeOBrien1945]

Marc at Longisland Watch sells a nice coin-edge bezel replacement, and you can also get a 12 hour bezel insert so the watch can track another time zone. The coin edge makes it easier to grip and turn the bezel.

[@WondersofWatchdom]

Thanks for sharing the info. I haven't used LIW but it seems to be a good shop.

[@shakraljdopobede6442]

My bezel turns perfectly smooth and easy and has been like that from the begining. You probably got the earlier batch specimen cause Orient DID FIX the bezel in later batches 2017 and onwards.

[@devind6020]

No joke, I did not know the spring bar issue was a problem for others as well. I nearly returned the watch because the watch fell off my wrist twice. Never did I do anything that would've weakened the spring bars to that point.

[@cawschwarzraben359]

I have the old Orient Mako, with the crown and button. It's one of my favorite watches. I bought it for $120 or so and it looks like it will last forever.

[@garrettalvero7170]

Ebay now sells sapphire Exhibition casebacks for the Ray/Mako. Nice mod for a new look. MoonFang is also coming out with a better crown.

[@esko23q]

The glass is very prone to very light scratches. Over all a solid watch ..Sapphire glass would be my next mod

[@tychovanvugt5531]

Or go for the kamasu!

[@metallicarchaea1820]

That's been my experience. I daily it among other mineral crystal automatics at work and the Ray II scratches easily. May mod it to sapphire crystal.

[@OmarZ77]

@@tychovanvugt5531 the Kamasu also completely fixes the rotating bezel problem. So smooth to rotate

[@djdelarosa25]

The stiff bezel is caused by the gasket they use which comes unlubricated from the factory. Applying a thin coat of silicone grease makes the bezel action delightful.

[@luckychucky9342]

Id like to preface by saying I hardly ever leave reviews on videos even though I am an avid watcher on KZbin. Excellent review my friend, I thoroughly enjoyed it 👍👍

[@WondersofWatchdom]

Thanks I appreciate that - esp from a discerning viewer!

[@justin_hanson5750]

thanks again for such a great video. AMAZING!!! You were the one who got me interested in watches and are my favorite youtube channel and I'm always excited to see another great video!

[@WondersofWatchdom]

Nice! Glad to hear it.

[@metallicarchaea1820]

This is an amazing watch. I absolutely love mine also in blue. It's on my daily rotation with my Citizen NY0040 and my Seiko SKX009J. All on rubber straps as I work in an industrial environment. My PPE seems to scratch up bracelets. Although all three have mineral crystal, the Ray II has a few scratches on it. It's also the dress-iest of the three so it has character. I may mod it with a sapphire crystal.

[@garrettalvero7170]

Ebay now sells sapphire Exhibition casebacks for the Ray/Mako. Nice mod for a new look.

[@metallicarchaea1820]

@@garrettalvero7170 Thanks for the heads up dude. 😁😁😁

[@garrettalvero7170]

@@metallicarchaea1820Absolutely.

[@leeandjancruise]

I've just bought a new Pepsi Mako 2 yesterday for £125 delivered from a private seller on eBay. I bought this watch because of it's aesthetics and the positive reviews.

[@rckarrh]

You're correct about the crystal, it got so bad that I replaced it with a sapphire. I love my Orient Ray 2.

[@garrettalvero7170]

Ebay now sells sapphire Exhibition casebacks for the Ray/Mako. Nice mod for a new look.

[@luismenor1169]

Thank you very much for the careful and detailed review. One small point: when you talk about the date change, you comment that the day changes first to French, when it is Spanish. That said, congratulations for the channel, I love it. Keep up the good work. Greetings from Spain.

[@jaime4022]

I have enjoyed every single orient watch I've owned, including my Makos and Rays; but please, there is no way in the world that this watch could be a 1,000.00 watch.

[@mariagarciagarcia5391]

Totalmente de acuerdo

[@tomu-s2075]

maybe not... but there are watches over £1000 that aren't as good as this

[@jaime4022]

@@tomu-s2075 could you name three of them?

[@tomu-s2075]

@@jaime4022 Tag Heuer Formula 1 Quartz WAZ1010.BA0842 Longines Hydroconquest Tag Heuer Aquaracer WBD1110.BA0928

[@jaime4022]

@@tomu-s2075 ok. Now I know you are certainly speaking fanboy biased nonsense. Have you ever held any of these watches in your hand? I am no fan of tag, but the cheapest tag heuer is better than any Mako in any measurable way. This is a quartz watch, so U can’t compare it’s movement to the automatic one in the mako, but that being said, the quality of this watch’s case and bezel are far superior to that of the Orient. And by the way, a quartz watch is more accurate, and shock resistant than an automatic, so depending on what metric you are using, you could argue quartz is better. And if you think that the Mako’s movement is much more expensive to manufacture because it’s automatic, let me tell you that you’d be surprised as to what little difference there would be. What are you going to say next, that the Mako is better than a Tuna because of its quartz movement? I haven’t owned a hydroconquest, but I do have a regular 300m conquest which is basically the same watch without a bezel and... please you can’t even compare the mako to that watch. Longines itself, as a company part of the Swatch group, produces mid tier luxury level watches which are beyond anything Orient produces and that includes the Orient Star line, which are very good in quality albeit a bit overpriced at times at retail prices. Perhaps you’d be better served comparing Makos to Certina, Tissot, Hamilton, watches, but a Tissot sea star for example with a ceramic bezel, power matic 80 movement 300m for around 600.00 usd is a far better buy than a mako USA II (probably mako’s best) at 315.00 usd.The mako is very well priced at 300-350 and that is what it’s worth. Come on man, the Mako isn’t even a true divers watch, but rather a diver-styled watch. The only thing you can argue about The Mako, is that it is a hell of a watch for the price, but saying it’s better than watches costing in excess of 1,000 is ridiculous. That is unless invictas become that highly priced. By the way, an invicta (yeah, I know)89260B with a Seiko NH35A movement, at around 100.00 is a hell of a bargain and in spite of the stigma associated with this brand, in quality it is on par, if not slightly better than the mako.

[@hantms]

While it's not a $1000 watch, it WILL stop you from wasting money on one because the improvement is so insignificant. Time and again I've held watches like a Longines Hydroconquest, Tissot Seastar, Mido Whatever that are in the $800 range and thought.. "Myeah.. that's not all too different from my $100 (at the time) Orient Ray". So this watch saves you money. Until you can afford an Omega or Tudor or something. ;)

[@ljubomirfilipovski4520]

Got mine after working abroad, picked it out before going there. Absolutely in love with it still, couldn't reccomend it more.

[@garrettalvero7170]

Ebay now sells sapphire Exhibition casebacks for the Ray/Mako. Nice mod for a new look.

[@Alex-zr4yl]

I bought the ray raven 2. I’m not usually a coating enthusiast, but I’m loving it so much. Two months out, still getting more wrist time than higher value watches in my small collection

[@garrettalvero7170]

Ebay now sells sapphire exhibition casebacks for the Mako/Ray. Nice mod for a new look.

[@Kevins-Philippine-Retirement]

I enjoy all your videos. One feature I hear popping up very often though is the screw down crown as the mark of a 200m or more dive watch. As a retired oceanographer who has spent decades designing, fabricating and deploying deep subsea equipment, I can inform everyone that the main functional purpose of a screw down crown is to prevent the crown from being pulled out inadvertently while under water. Even then, if a crown is pulled out under water and the captive O-ring stem seal is designed properly, it will still provide a 100% reliable seal. A properly designed and implemented O-ring seal will become more and more water resistant as hydrostatic and hydrodynamic pressure increases up to the point where the O-ring ruptures. I pity the diver at a dept where that occurs as they will most likely be dead. Helium pressure equalization will most likely become more of a factor than O-ring integrity at depths where O-rings may fail. Even dive tanks and regulators rely on a simple O-ring.

[@romeo6048]

Nice video. I've never had any problems or scratches on the crystal yet. I've been wearing it in rotation for about 1 year. It's an endearing affordable gem and I really enjoy wearing it.

[@garrettalvero7170]

Ebay now sells Exhibition casebacks for the Ray/Mako. Nice mod for a new look.

[@mattmedia4684]

Just got this for my birthday... I absolutely love it

[@lommerdpassievrucht8555]

I just ordered one new with all paperwork involved for 150 euros from a watch discounter. Can't wait to get it

[@PlugInRides]

While the Orient Mako II and Ray II are great watches, the Kamasu takes them to another level for not much more money. The Kamasu offers a sapphire crystal, something lacking on the Mako and Ray. The Red sunburst dial Kamasu is also quite striking. MSRP is $280, but they can often be found for just under $200 from various sellers.

[@Abercrombemonkey]

Great review, I purchased the Ray for an extra $22 usd. Preference mainly.

[@Flyingwalrus42]

I haven’t picked mine up in over a month, the second I saw this I I opened up my watch box and started setting it up like I just got it for the first time. It really is a great watch I just don’t wanna beat it up

[@garrettalvero7170]

Ebay now sells sapphire exhibition casebacks for the Mako/Ray. Nice mod for a new look. They are also coming out with aftermarket crowns fyi.

[@Flyingwalrus42]

@@garrettalvero7170 I appreciate your comment thanks for taking time to inform me. I will definitely begin my search now, I hope you have a good day

[@shinraorg]

Orient will always have a place in my watch collection. The Ray2 is what got me into watches and that’s because I had a Milgaus before it that I sold.

[@Lee2k4]

I came across this after looking for a Seiko 5 and I’m in a bit of a dilemma. As much as I love dive watches I want something with a reliable movement and is pleasing to the eye and At the moment I’m very tempted by this as I’ve heard nothing but good things about Orient

[@dunderhay9169]

I really enjoyed your other videos (particularly the Vostok ones), and it is great you've done another. Great photography and nice presentation 👍

[@vladimir11c]

I just bought the Black one. I love it. I plan on replacing the glass with sapphire crystal.

[@garrettalvero7170]

Ebay now sells sapphire Exhibition casebacks for the Ray/Mako. Nice mod for a new look.

[@LymanPhillips]

I own the Ray Ii Raven. Pretty watch. This isn't a $1k watch however - pressed clasp, hollow end links, mineral crystal. Nope. And I agree 100% on the crown. I wind it every night - so I can grab and go if I want, and it's not fun. And my crystal is a little scratched as well. The most fun part of the Raven is the black face and the black second hand with the red tip. It looks like the red tip is floating all by itself as it circles the dial. I'd say this watch is priced about right. This watch is beat up all over by my similarly priced Chinese Special Cronos No Time To Die diver - sapphire crystal, great bezel action with ceramic insert, wonderful silky crown action, lovely milled clasps and solid end links. Ok, maybe the logo on the Orient is better as well... you got me there. Now that's a watch punching above it's weight. The in-house movement on the Orient is probably it's biggest draw, although the NH35 ain't no slouch.

[@supermash1]

Good review, you sound like a watchmaker or someone who knows about the mechanics of watches. I'm considering buying either a ray 2 or kamasu and can't decide which to get. It seems the only real quality issue with these watches is the crown. I wish orient would address that. Overall though, the Orient brand has a strong appeal to me. I like Japanese watches and cars, and their culture in general - at least from a distance (which is the only way I perceive it, I haven't visited yet). Too bad about Seiko, a brand which is "in the dog house" in my books. The SKX's are nice but prices are not reasonable anymore. And recently while visiting my favorite watch shop in my town, I was shown a "limited edition" 300m waterproof diver watch which had a "tuna" case. It disappointed me to see that Seiko has cheapened that iconic watch by making so many "cheapened" versions of them. I don't want one anymore.

[@jonahhekmatyar]

I ended up picking up a black ray II in large part due to your video. Awesome stuff

[@WondersofWatchdom]

Nice! Hope you enjoy it.

[@paulsutphin7813]

Excellent and comprehensive review with excellent photography -- really appreciate you opening the watch up and talking about regulation and accuracy. You deserve more subscribers, and just got one! Look forward to the next one.

[@BryanRossthemanwithanose]

Easily the best review of this watch I've ever seen on KZbin. Thanks for this

[@tedblack2415]

A very comprehensive look at the ray 1st time iv'e seen your channel, no spring bar probs the issues iv'e had were on delivery gaining +25 daily ,the crown & stem failed within months (decoupled) & the occasional bezel jam, being the Kamasu no crystal issues. Since regulation its my most accurate auto running well within cocs parameters as or the crown/stem thing Orient parts are a nightmare to acquire ..the logical move would be to ditch the crown guards & larger crown, all that said its stilll one of my fave's.

[@karlsenula9495]

Excellent interesting very detailed and informative review of this watch. This was on my list but I have a Casio Duro, 2 Vostoks, a Pagani Submariner homage, a Citizen Eco-drive, a Steeldive Captain Willard homage ... so now I think I will wait instead of getting this and get a better dive watch (Zelos or Helm).

[@garrettalvero7170]

Ebay now sells sapphire Exhibition casebacks for the Ray/Mako. Nice mod for a new look.

[@jitech_]

Mine has 0 beat error out of the box too. I was pleasantly surprised so it seems Orient is actually regulating the movements at factory. There is several versions of the bracelet because my clasp is slightly different.

[@SimiNelsonFamily]

Interesting comments about the spring bars. I own an Orient Excursionist GMT, which is a heavy weighted watch with a similar band. I’ve replaced the spring bars several times because they bend and break. I think it has to do with the combination of the thin spring bars, heavy watch, and most of the stress is placed near the center of the bars due to the watch band design.

[@jmcafee1959]

I'm a new subscriber and your review was spot on. And I had this watch since December 2017. And replaced the crystal with sapphire in January 2018. Using a 2.5mm spring bars with a NATO strap.

[@manxology]

Excellent vid! Imo... Orient Kamasu (swap out the clasp... $5 Aliexpress) is the #1 Best Dress-Diver ever made for the money. Nobody sane unscrews a crown when wet. Easy bezels kill. The #1 best professional/combat diver costs less... is less accurate... never needs service... but definitely needs a $3 Aliexpress strap... Russian Vostok Scuba Dude Amphibia. (Note: A bezel that rotates both directions is an ornament. In the case of the Russian above, it also serves structural purpose.)

[@jacc88888]

Best review I’ve seen of this watch. Lots of interesting new insights too. I can’t decide between this one or the original Mako 2 (not the USA). Love the look of both and the fabulous blue sunburst dial.

[@stephenbridges2791]

I think you may have just gotten one with a less than spec crystal. I have the exact same model and have no issues with mine. You can get a sapphire replacement for about $35 if you chose to do so. After mine broke in; it runs about +5 to +9 seconds per day. WAY better than my SKX.

[@djlu3011]

My orient ray 2 has a scratch as well. It's not noticeable but the point is I notice it. And it does trigger my OCD sometimes.

[@baronedipiemonte3990]

I enjoyed your review of the Ray II. I ordered mine yesterday after much review and thought, and I'm very much looking forward to it. I was thinking about the Phoebus, but the model I wanted wasn't available. But I think I'll be happy with the Ray II.

[@JohnBrown-cz7ww]

Nice watch, I think its well worth it. There is alot of people who feel entitled to put something down because you did not spend a fortune on it. It justifies there need to show everybody there spending of great wealth.

[@Zanzibar2Far]

Amazing watch for the money, I've got several Rays and a Mako, it's arguably the only watch a collection needs. I do have the original Ray Raven, nothing to do with changing the bracelet, the spring bars kept bending for some reason, my jeweller said the diameter was undersized for the weight of the watch, they tried to fit larger bars, to increase the strength, but the hollow endlinks and/or the recesses wouldn't accommodated. I haven't had the same issue with the others, but the watch forums do contain threads from experienced watch enthusiasts (thousands of posts), mentioning this issue. I do have more watches than I'd like to confess to now, and always regulate, replace batteries, resize/replace straps myself; a great hobby.

[@M3LTUP]

I have the orange Ray. Granted the smaller crown makes it harder to set. But it also reduces the crown digging into my hand. The bezel is tight but it is definitely not gonna get knocked around in the water. Overall it's a great watch.

[@Alias_Anybody]

Budget watches are always a gamble in terms of accuracy. For Japanese movements if they perform good or excellent, and for Chinese movements if they perform good or can be considered a dud, lol. I was lucky with my NH35s, one is plus 3 seconds/day dial up, the other one 8 seconds/day dial up, both better when worn (+1 and +4 or something). Out of the box, without any further regulation. Never tried an Orient, but that crystal would honestly drive me mad.

[@ragnarone5409]

It´s a nice watch and the Ray is my favorit, but I total agree with the two issues (crown&bezel). Orient should bring a V2 version!

[@WondersofWatchdom]

I'd love to see that. I wish they would.

I have the Black one and I love it.

[@harveyswick5792]

Terrific review. Very well done with excellent photography and information.

[@frankquarters]

Finally, now I know why they call it the Ray. Cool. I love my orange Ray II. Agree on all the negs, but my bezel has loosened up after 2 yrs of near daily use. I've been regulating mine of late, as after =/+ 10 sec since I first got it, it's now running quite fast. Finally getting past my fear of opening her up. I'm doing it by feel, so it's a great learning experience going through the process, especially since it's a fairly inexpensive entry level auto. In truth, I love it more than my $1,200 Marathon. Cheers

[@frankquarters]

Damn ... wrote the above before I got to the part where you "don't recommend trying to regulate this watch," yikes. Here's the bit where I start my Amazon search for time graphers ...

[@mr.thompson9447]

You must have got a bad crystal. I've had mine for a few years and no scratches so far, but I do have some nicks on the bezel. I replaced the bracelet for a Strapcode one and it's a big upgrade in the look and feel of the watch. I would love it if you did a video on the Luch one hander or just one handed watches in general. I put a jubilee bracelet on mine and it's my around 6 o clock watch on days when time isn't that important and I'm just drinking beer on the porch.

[@Nothingtoya]

I have the RayII Raven. Although I didn't have a problem with the bezel, I didn't like the way it looked. I replaced the Bezel with a pvd coated (satin black), the bezel insert with a flat ceramic stealth insert, and a dd Sapphire with blue ar crystal. I'm very happy with this watch and my only 2 complaints, finding another pvd coated bracelet with solid end links and the crown.

[@WondersofWatchdom]

Mods are so much fun! Glad you’re enjoying the watch. I’m still amazed mine is running at +0.6 seconds per day. Crazy good performance.

[@AnderDoUrden]

This is how reviews (for any product, not only watches) should be made. Kudos. Liked and subscribed

[@bogrot69]

I own the Ray Raven II and I love it. I also own a Neptune, Mako XL and a Kanno. I likes me Orients 😂. The Neptune is a stunning watch for the price it's in the 400 to 500 CAD range but it's powered by the caliber 40N5A, the same movement used in Orient's Gen 2 Pro Saturation Diver priced over 1000 USD. I enjoy them every bit as much as my Seikos. BTW I live in Vancouver . Your video have a real BC vibe 😁💗

[@Voltron21]

Bought this watch 2 years ago and it's easily my favorite watch. And yes I think you may have a bad crystal as mine doesn't have this scratch problem.

[@garrettalvero7170]

Ebay now sells sapphire Exhibition casebacks for the Ray/Mako. Nice mod for a new look.

[@Trump2024Kentucky]

I had no problem with the crystal scratching excessively nor do I have a problem turning the bezel, even with wet hands. Maybe you happen to get a lemon but no issues with mine. If your bezel is a little stiff, a few drops of WD-40 around the bezel can help loosen that up.

[@paulowca718]

Great to see another video Sir! You do a fantastic job. I watch other more well known watch channels but I gotta say your videos are done so well. Keep up the great work! Always happy to see a new one.

[@garrettalvero7170]

Ebay now sells sapphire Exhibition casebacks for the Ray/Mako. Nice mod for a new look.

[@paulowca718]

Cool. Good to know. Thanks for info. I own a Mako and it's a great value too.

[@benb1131]

You can easily adjust the stiffness of a bezel by prying it off and bending the click spring to desire. This sounds complicated but is in fact extremely easy. The bezel can then be put back on by placing it on the watch and pressing the watch face down against a book

[@teamhonn]

Did that to mine. I bit tricky to get it off but long island watch has a video about it.

[@tortuga7160]

Love the indepth reviews. I bought my first "real" watch a week ago. The Orient Maestro.

[@garrettalvero7170]

Ebay now sells Exhibition casebacks for the Ray/Mako. Nice mod for a new look.

[@HoodRoI3]

Can't wait till I get my hands om mine next week!

[@9426sunny]

Orient diver watches are the best for everything with that cost.

[@aroshgk]

I have the black dial … beautiful watch..

[@richardsmegma5081]

Interesting view about the logo!

[@spencer6x18]

The crown size is an issue functionally. But it can be praised visually. It looks great imho.