Wood Grilled Pizza: Pizza or Flatbread? || Really Dough?

Scott has a pretty broad definition of what is pizza. But one of his big rules is that the dough needs to be topped before it is baked to be classified as a pizza, anything else is just a flatbread. So where does wood fired pizza fit into the equation? Especially a wood fired pizza topped with ricotta and mezcal cured gravlax and capers? On this episode of Really Dough? Scott and Mark are trying the Gravlax Pizza from Speedy Romeo in the Lower East Side. Will Mark think this is pizza? Will Scott even think this is pizza??
Pizza is one of the most customizable foods in history. Tomato sauce, white sauce, artichoke cream sauce, broccoli, M&M’s, pineapple, edible 24K gold -- a pizza can be anything your heart desires. But should it? Renowned pizza nerd Scott Wiener is challenging the idea that pizza can be anything. He’s traveling all over America, spotlighting these Frankenstein pizzas and trying to make a case for whether these new customizations can, in fact, still be considered a pizza. In the end, Wiener takes these pizzas to Lucali to pass final judgment from the purist of all pizza purists, Mark Iacono, where he will either declare each slice “PIZZA!” or ask with complete disgust, “Really, dough???”
Credits:
Hosts
Scott Wiener
Mark Iacono
Guest
Justin Bazdarich
Showrunner
Keith Cecere
Senior Producer
Chas Truslow
Producer
Phoebe Melnick
Director of Photography
Vwodek Rucewicz
Camera Operator
Kevin Provost
Assistant Camera
Lucas Young
Production Audio
Nathan Bonetto
Gaffer
Manny Ramos
Senior Editor
Chris Murphy
Editor
Morgan Dopp
Associate Editor
Aaron Rubin
Colorist/Cowboy
Dan Byrne
Post Audio
Aldon Baker
Animators
Fredy Delgado, Megan Chong
Production Coordinator
Myra Rivera
Production Assistants
Nick Hernandez, Trask Grant, Mickey Lynch, Jason Pozarowski
Cowboy Chorus
Zachary Lapierre
Line Producer
Emily Tufaro
Director of Development
Leo Fernandez
Post-Production Supervisor
Daniel Byrne
Supervising Producer
Stasia Jones
Design Director
Ted McGrath
Executive Producer
Justin Lundstrom
Music
Track Title: Burlington Bell
Composer: Guy Jeffery Barker (PRS 50%), Joseph Robert Irwin Stilgoe (PRS 50%)
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Track Title: Reflectivity
Composer: Oronzo De Filippi (SIAE 100%)
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Track Title: Spy Out
Composer: Klooz (SACEM 50%), Kidedo (SACEM 50%)
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Track Title: Taiko Storm
Composer: Scott Roush (ASCAP 100%)
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Track Title: Saccio na bella canzone A
Composer: Antonio Paliotti (SIAE 100%)
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Track Title: Crystal Chalet
Composer: Pierfrancesco Bellisario (SIAE 50%), Marco Sabbatucci (SIAE 50%)
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Track Title: Pha That Luang
Composer: Imade Saputra (SACEM 100%)
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Track Title: Go Hard and Grind (underscore)
Composer: Panauh Kalayeh (ASCAP 25%), Robert Goerge Grant (ASCAP 2.5%), Mikhail O. Johnson (BMI 22.5%), James Desmond (ASCAP 25%), Chadol Song (KOMCA 25%)
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Track Title: Yours E
Composer: Aurelien Alexandre Chavoix (SACEM 25%), Sara Lynn Choi (BMI 20%), Adam Aukai Le Blanc (SESAC 20%), Daniel Merlot (SESAC 10%), Stefan Broadley (SESAC 25%)
00:07:17:17
Track Title: Balantree (Underscore Version)
Composer: Brian Trifon (BMI 50%), Brian White (BMI 50%)
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Track Title: Avocado Mambo
Composer: Small Town Jazz Band No.5
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Track Title: Sea of Memories (Underscore Version)
Composer: Max Cameron Concors (ASCAP 100%)
00:09:50:02
Track Title: Simply
Composer: Pasquale Castiglione (SIAE 100%)
00:10:48:01
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[@WinWin-oo4uk]

I care more about that bagel. How is that made? Thanks

[@spooky_electric]

"Amazing pizza doesn't even shut you up." lmao, I love Mark.

[@thecitizenjoan]

spooky electric 😂

[@KingFrederik1309]

Duckling love him, haha

[@LovesOner]

Your still talking “

[@xmuta]

spooky electric - You love Weiner?

[@aovi7290]

*I want this series to continue forever* *or atleast as long as I live*

[@aovi7290]

@Jericho Perez your idea kinda sucks but thanks for the suggestion ✌

[@El_Andru]

As long as Mark doesn't explode

[@jovekmc3546]

Pls don’t die tomorrow, you gonna end it for everyone else

[@damonopz]

I want it to end just before i die, so i can watch the series finale on my death bed.

[@Eric-vs2he]

Longer than the soviet union i hope

[@alialkhamis6452]

This show has evolved so much that now mark is trying to convince scott that it’s a pizza

[@cris_here]

Daydoo Al Khamis character development. 😂😂

[@MarcusBadi]

yeahhh

[@CynicVash]

Lolol you right!

[@Synchronic8080]

You guys have really found something in this show...

[@thrillist]

The best is yet to come...

[@ironfist9392]

@@thrillist can't imagine what the best pizza is gonna be? 🤩

[@leesalt]

Glad they stopped experimenting with the stupid editing and Scott toned down his shtick and stopped interrupting so much.

[@bangtang1717]

Thrillist just stop with the weird cheesy editing, it was bad enough that one time with the horror

[@TheJaybrone]

Mark makes the show.

[@justinfung4351]

The character development on this show is still better than Twilight.

[@Violet_Faye]

I could tell almost immediately once he got a whiff of that thing, he couldn't say it wasn't a pizza. You could see the excitement in Mark's eyes.

[@RAWRsynchro]

Is it just me or is Mark is more and more open minded now 😂 Scott broke Mark. Love the show

[@campkira]

Mark is kind to other restaurant owner.

[@AeroGold1]

He also knows he is playing a character and purposely hams it up for drama. He acts all curmudgeonly, almost like Dr. House, but when he sees and eats the pizza he generally is pretty impressed and likes eating it, even if he sometimes still doesn't pronounce that it is in fact a "pizza" by his standards.

[@DeepSoniMe]

So when's the Netflix show coming out

[@thrillist]

Hopefully soon.

[@perc-ai]

@@thrillist i would watch this on netflix the production is amazing

[@MultiBigbird01]

@@perc-ai Same! It's really enjoyable.

[@Damage_Inc]

@@thrillist Hahaha someone's trying to make some big money out here

[@FramesPerSecond]

Mark’s really good on the pizza Episode of Ugly delicious. It’s where I first saw him🍕

[@fabricemunger4456]

Scott: "This is a holy temple is it not?" Mark: " It's breakfast." Can't argue with that.

[@letstrytv5673]

-"Just because i like it so much...i have to say its pizza" -"just because you like it...?" -"YES!"

[@rw9495]

So an intense personal bias can sway things into being pizza.. that should be exploited ;)

[@chairwolf5446]

Clearly you can get away with more if the product is good

[@DarwinsBeerReviews]

God has spoken. Yes!

[@Ardaaldemir]

Call Frank Pinello to join you for an episode!

[@Fisumestari]

Hell yes.

[@NeoGamemaster]

HELL yes.

[@noveasmicanal]

damn i really need that pizza show season 3 tho

[@davidsanchez8803]

YEEEEEEEEEEES I NEEED THISSS

[@fredkapp498]

Please Mark and Frankie have chemistry. Scott is too obnoxious

[@dangerzone9747]

You gotta bring Mark a pineapple pizza. I hear he loves them!

[@CedricBassman]

Better, bring one to Gordon Ramsay and see what happens.

[@jerrie367]

@@CedricBassman just go search "Gordon Ramsay tries Pineapple Pizza" you won't regret xD

[@mirabilis]

Why not a Swedish banana/chicken/curry/peanuts pizza?

[@oneblacksun]

@@CedricBassman Gordon's a pussy when it comes to eating food.

[@web_dev-rl2ve]

I love pinneaple on pizza

[@shimshim420]

I love the editing in this show

[@sigitrendang5195]

I have seen some show that people harshly judge the editing, now people are loving it. smh. The Editing is great tho

[@bananabames8184]

Shout out to the camera man constantly filming that bald spot

[@SODTAOE]

I love this show. Giving deserving restaurants publicity while shooting food porn for all of us. Bravo please never stop making these.

[@manishgupta6206]

I gave you a like so that you would remember this awesome memory 😊

[@RSSiegfriege]

No time wasted from these videos. What an underrated show. Can't stop watching.

[@djdivix]

The editing has gotten much much better on this show. Shout out to everyone working in post.

[@giokush2386]

I went tk lucali and the pizza is MAGICAL! It was a spectacular experience.

[@razaurrehman9530]

Was it cheap tho?

[@El_Andru]

@@razaurrehman9530 its like 27 dollars a pie isnt it?

[@giokush2386]

@@razaurrehman9530 yeah for the quality of the pizza the prices were good

[@razaurrehman9530]

@@giokush2386 well if it's under 30 for the best pizza I guess it's cheap. I mean there's a dumbass selling a pizza for 2k

[@PathodDayshade]

@@El_Andru that's not too bad. Here in Serbia family size pizzas are around 12-15$ and we're considered a third world country lol

[@TheGabagoolGuru]

This series has grown on me so much. Each episode gets better imo

[@mariejan2304]

Me too I love it

[@alexvelludo]

From Italy, the country of pizza I say, pizza is pizza if the dough is pizza dough, basic and simple, toppings make it more or less traditional, but the dough is the key

[@campkira]

You eat it and you will know it a pizza if it feel wrong then it is not. You can call badly made pizza, a pizza.

[@raffaeleirlanda6966]

Alessandro Velludo So then if your arguing that it is pizza all that share pizza dough, please define focaccia in comparison to pizza, and why the two are consequently two different food products, despite both are made with pizza dough... 😀😎🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@alexvelludo]

Focaccia is higher, and doesn't have a crust

[@alexvelludo]

Also focaccia and Roman pizza are basically the same, but focaccias are more fluffy and taste different

[@raffaeleirlanda6966]

Alessandro Velludo Beeep... Sbagliato! You are almost correct, but focaccia dough may or may not contain olive oil. Even if you do not put oil in the dough, sure you MUST pour a little string of olive oil in the pan, and right in the pan focaccia is leavened a second time for 4 hours circa before it is cooked in the oven. Second leaven and cooking in an oily frying pan are the main differences that make focaccia higher than pizza and with no crust. 😀

[@TheLyricalWrdsmth]

You had me at ricotta. Ricotta on pizza, grilled or not, is top tier.

[@Elloth]

Swede here, its called "Gravad Lax" and its like pickled salmon. You put thin Salmon slices in a bag with peppers, salt, sugar and dill and let it sit for some days and then remove the liquid from the bag. Tastes amazing

[@rafaelsanchez9047]

As a Houston native where the Rodeo just ended, I'm glad about the Grill editing.

[@neogeo1670]

Norwegian here. Grav laks literally mean grave salmon. It's super tasty and tender

[@gamingwatermelon3847]

OSLO JEG ER IKKE NORSK

[@Yourantsally]

Grovlox is also the Yiddish word for it, and pretty much means cured salmon, it's a very common word in America

[@Timmycoo]

Mmm I love me some grave salmon. Just doesn't have the same ring to it.

[@joakim2k10]

Gravlax derives from Swedish, not Yiddish. Lox is traditionally brined salmon, while gravlax is always cured.

[@Yourantsally]

@@joakim2k10 it's the same origin, they're both germanic languages. Yes they're different styles of the same thing, but my yiddish speaking grandma calls it grovlox.

[@toxic6444]

9:50 The salmon, do you smoke it? No, i eat it 😂😂😂

[@dojufitz]

I would LOVE this.... right down my alley....those flavors.... capers, salmon, red onion.... oh yeah!

[@takeapil4568]

Really dough, instachef and send foodz. Send us more of these type of series please thrillist!!!

[@willtowle2195]

Where’d he get the idea ? Wolfgang Puck

[@kareja316]

He uses smoked salmon and caviar. Maybe the idea was to create a cheaper version of that

[@raffaeleirlanda6966]

From Argentina... 😀

[@DanielTheOne]

10:10 mark waves goodbye to the phone

[@BD-zg7is]

two mins in and this is already better than every single show on food network

[@alanxu7179]

The synergy between mark, scott, the cameraman, and the editor is phenomenal. BEST SHOW EVER! PERIOD.

[@sauravlas]

I was literally wondering not even an hour ago when the next episode was gonna come out

[@thrillist]

Surprise!!

[@lucassmudge]

Every Monday I believe! Gets me thru an awful day haha

[@Shamokian]

Each episode I watch is better than the last. And that's just randomly watching them in no particular order. Good character development.

[@vetrix215]

This is on the top 3 list of most appetizing pizzas on this show for me.

[@PuppyFTW]

Watched this back when it was first uploaded. Still go back to this same episode years after. So good! Never stop making this show Thrillist!

[@Fangschrecke90]

this needs mooore views. Hands down the best show on KZbin. The chemistry, the jokes, the theme. I love it!

[@killerbee4801]

Scott: "It's a holy temple is it not?" Mark: "It's breakfast" Me: "same thing "

[@mazfahri28]

The editing getting better every episode this is gem on youtube

[@mr.randomizer6874]

today history is made...mark loved the pizza so much that he said that its a pizza even it did violated his pizza rules

[@jasonszeto7790]

mark's the OG . he makes his own rules and regulations . then break them . LOL

[@liteprotoss]

"You sound like my mom." "You even look like her."

[@snowontheweb]

Good Lord I LOVE this show! Wish they were 30 minute episodes!! Keep up the great work team!!

[@currencytrader4389]

You two need to make a movie or something. Hilarious but subtle interaction is the best chemistry and you two have it. This guy is like your dad, mom, older brother all in one (the older brother that taught you things..not the one that beat you up.)

[@existentialmoron6334]

"This is a holly temple! Is it not?" Lmao

[@dipeshmalla4545]

I love Mark Iacano. I discovered him thorough Pizza Show at Munchies and i cannot get enough of him. Love him.

[@bigb9302]

0:27 I don't know how to feel about this I feel like he is being corrupted.

[@tosht2515]

Those toppings taste great on anything...bagel, toast, tortilla, maybe even Pringles. Another awesome episode but slightly disappointed that Scott didn't make Mark try a St. Louis pizza since he was there. Really need an unbiased, professional opinion of *_provel._* 😬

[@briansempowski189]

The guy in the show acts like he is a robot trying to mimic human emotions

[@mrgetrext297]

Loving these episodes i've watched everyone and cant wait for more. Keep up the great work!

[@ThinkMcFly815]

This is my favorite show right now. Not just YT but overall. Will there be more than 6 episodes this season?

[@ThatChrisMurphy]

doubt it

[@christianhansen3292]

"Amazing pizza doesnt even shut u up!" i feel that is an awesome comment. haha

[@CiprianHanga]

These two guys have such a great chemistry together. I could watch them bantering for hours.

[@LorenzoCalgaryRealtor]

That crunch sounds AMAZING!!!

[@teambl4dez]

Thrilling please make a lot of episodes and release them once a month for every year make some backup episodes so that they never get older!

[@kalinnavyacheslavovna2760]

I like that Mark waves at the phone to say goodbye as if dude can see him doing it xD

[@AI-ro2bm]

I feel like this is the spiritual successor to the pizza show on munchies.

[@MsXperienced]

Love the editing and it's great chemistry on this show...wasn't expecting mark to say it was a pizza dough!

[@Kenailol]

this guy is literally jake peralta in real life

[@bennichols4879]

Man, this show is so perfect. I just love everything about it.

[@finnmommsen6620]

I Love the way Mark says "no"

[@kr4yw656]

10:27 “Roblox pizza is actually made on a grill” Thanks for the info!

[@bendelubyu]

"Just because you like it..." mark: YESS!! 🤣🤣

[@salmaa9459]

Really living for the editing of this series

[@gingereatstheworld]

U guys gotta do one on supermarket foods. Like frozen pizzas, pizza rolls, bagel bites, and all those goodies

[@Troubadour313]

It's wonderful to just see Mark absolutely love a food and get excited about it.

[@ivanberdichevsky5679]

Dude so many colors on that bagel, my whole digestive system is on fire from just seeing it.

[@leronbenari226]

Im always happy that Mark is not like a lot of traditionists in that he only appreciates traditional food. He likes good food when he sees it and that's why his pizzas are great.

[@ginorai]

Mark honestly looks like he’s annoyed by Scott almost always lmao just wanted Scott out the way in the beginning

[@abhineetsingh12]

"Amazing pizza doesn't even shut you up." man i died laughing 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@superduperfreakyDj]

This looks like it belongs in Scandinavian cuisine

[@jnaps18]

The rainbow bagel Clouded his judgement !!!!

[@MrTurtleThief]

Scott definitely lives in a tent behind the pizzeria lol

[@guser436]

Aw man I know this series will end eventually but I need Mark in my life :( At least I'm happy to be experiencing it now. Great videos guys, you have done an amazing job with this series, the format and editing.

[@youngmeatball8181]

2:38 This man really has a Van Halen oven.

[@LifeisLikeGame]

Thrillest and best food review show ever. Should do a collaboration. Would be funny.

[@ryanthurman3839]

Hand down one of the best KZbin video. It had me cracking up the whole time.

[@saksham1603]

Man ! Totally binge watching the series 😍

[@evemosongo]

"You're still talkin'" 😂😂😂

[@MohamedSalahYouTube]

This show is amazing , i want an episode everyday

[@riccardofadda3962]

I am Italian and that is a 100% Pizza! In Italy we use to put salmon, and ricotta on our Pizzas....so those are pretty comune topings. The grill coocking is very interesting.

[@xistrap]

Best pizza series on youtube. period.

[@KFSofficial]

You can find similar pizza in sweden but with fish roe on top. And if you havnt tried this swedish "gravlax" before, do it. Its awseome!

[@kaanefe4266]

editing on this video is just spectacular i watched it like 4 times (thanks youtube recommendation) my mouse just involuntarily goes to this video i enjoy it everytime

[@crabdaddy1951]

this show is a gem, I'm actually upset I'm on the last episode right now.

[@Joum92]

I wanna introduce Mark to my mum, he seems like such a genuine guy!

[@nopenope1]

each episode gets better and better, its so funny. I really hope you guys will do this forever ;)

[@Saablito24]

MOST UNDERRATED SERIES EVER !!

[@ridhofiesta4408]

what i love from mark is he always nice to others chef. he always love everything scott brought to him

[@maysanchez4291]

Mark has been opening up to so many types of pizzas, it's great

[@Vikslicktalk]

This show is amazing! Where can I watch season 1?

[@marcelc2820]

5 episodes into binging this show and I'm for sure ordering pizza tonight.

[@barsx2o9]

I love mark

[@sokar9438]

We all do

[@SlitSys]

Who is your profile pic of and why does everyone have it?

[@barsx2o9]

@@SlitSys I think it's from a game. why I have it cause my actual picture is ugly lol

[@TheLyzander]

A longer episodes with Frank Pinello would be niceee, ey?

[@bigtexx89]

Dude you never got your mimosa. Immersion shattered.

[@ernestomiguezmelendrez209]

This is a very different Mark from the pizza show, here he is really grumpy but in the pizza show he was always smiling

[@LizzieBeezie]

Anyone get the chills before Mark gives his verdict, pizza or not pizza lol? Everytime he says he likes it, i jump like a mad girl haha and if he says pizza, i say yaaay xD. I'm crazy.

[@DCYote1]

I've been binge watching this all week, I love the chemistry and banter between these two, (and I love pizza).

[@hamburg3665]

I keep coming back. Their chemistry is amazing, like pepperoni and cheese.

[@hydrogenbae]

That is actually a brilliant way to startle anyone! 'You just look like my mom'