Chicago Deep Dish: Pizza or Casserole? || Really Dough?

[@thrillist]

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[@b.abrackus6403]

Mark's commitment to the simplicity and authenticity of 🍕 fascinates me... His dry sense of humor kills me... 👍👍

[@Dylan_Hart]

Pizza originally didn't have cheese.

[@carlosparra8976]

wow..a true fanboy

[@dma93-ch]

yeah I love his humour, and also I wouldn't mind going to sleep while listening to him telling me bedtime stories with that calm voice of his

[@emyndridrinemy3346]

wow, really dough?

[@seandon4759]

this show is fun but its useless once you realize Mark is right...

[@NedWasHere94]

"The genus is pizza, the species is Chicago." Okay. I accept that.

[@darthpanda5824]

Ones a casserole

[@davekent6023]

@@nateman10 Nah. It uses the same ingredients and it's been invented by Italian pizza makers. Just like livestock being bred for different things.

[@Ash_Wen-li]

@@nateman10 Deep dish is descended from pizza. It may look like something else but it doesn't loose that. Just like how whales are mammals not fish. They still retain key characteristics

[@kevinbooth-]

@@Ash_Wen-li Thats like saying that a hamburger and lasagna are the same thing when they have the same ingredients (pasta is just another kind of bread, etc)... It's just absurd. Pizza is defined by form, not ingredients, which is why a Hawaiian pizza is more of a pizza than the deep dish monstrosity.

[@Ash_Wen-li]

@@kevinbooth- You completely ignored the part where I mentioned deep dish is DESCENDED from pizza. Just like how dolphins are descended from mammals. They don't magically become something else. And it hasn't changed so far as to become something completely different. It's still crust, cheese, sauce. Just in different amounts

[@mugensamurai]

"Does that not look like a casserole?" "Casseroles are not round." "What are they?" "Rectangular." (Stares intensely) LOL that's just good dialogue.

[@yvardietvorst]

It's just depends on the pan you cook it in though😂

[@harrygibus]

It's more about the space between the dialogue - introverts hell and heaven.

[@DeltathRiylaan]

Sounds like wannabe Seinfeld dialogue.

[@sidepresang5771]

This show is basically a 90's porno where the sex is replaced with pizza instead.

[@RegstarRogstar]

Maybe thats why i love this series so much

[@aramwatters]

100th like 😊

[@laurenalviz8410]

pizza is sex

[@enrique123eo]

I was wondering why my pants were getting tighter when they ate the pizza

[@hugoants]

LOOOOOOL!

[@adambenzaari324]

Mark Lucali's accent is the most beautiful thing ever, why can't all New Yorkers talk like that

[@Cars2155]

mark iacono

[@Jaberr]

Nah I'm not tryna have that accent but how deep his voice is hell yeah

[@jamunan3344]

Mark iacono

[@aeyvan]

Tim Apple*

[@vector222]

No, guys, it's definitely Mark Lucali. He's best friends with Frank BestPizza and Jeff Amazon

[@thecatfishchronicles7640]

Each time I watch Mark I love him more and more.

[@archergg9226]

The best part is if you ever meet him in person, this is his real personality.

[@waluigitheprophet4406]

“It’s genus is Pizza, it’s species is Chicago.” “Yes, god, yes.” Mark sounds extremely disappointed

[@Goblinlikebeing]

He says Scott not god.

[@cheekycherryl]

I love how Mark is always stretching out dough , even though nobody ordered pizza

[@ManyDog]

Gotta Practice

[@masonasaro2118]

making a palate cleanser

[@XXvsXX01]

The relationship between Scott and Mark gives me Conan and Jordan Schlansky vibes

[@snifey2233]

The dead eye stare compare to is this a pizza?

[@Romopunk7]

not really

[@XXvsXX01]

@@Romopunk7 nOt ReAlLy

[@loveluca6981]

Mr Ouch nOt ReAlLy

[@nanyabiznus4738]

I was looking for this comment.

[@snehamodyy]

Mark lucali should try acting. He would be such a warm actor

[@Markkxd]

John wick bruh

[@hussain7800]

He's mark iacono.. But yeah he'd be great.. Especially in mafia related movies

[@Dankdonk]

Tbh he built like a fine actor

[@fahr]

he reminds me of dylan mcdermott

[@joefayad2040]

@@hussain7800 Hh

[@AnimeMemesz]

I love the banter between these 2 enthusiasts

[@kd1330]

"Im gonna enlighten myself with some of your sausage". Uhhhhh lol

[@pablovalles-aguirre3566]

“Not a euphemism”

[@Krispyyeah]

Pause

[@messiahlorenzo2106]

No homo

[@jgasp1803]

-“I’ll see you soon” - “I hope so 😉”

[@saber26ful]

Keep it PG

[@chingghishan5707]

“Don’t eat pizza with a for and knife” I would purposely annoy Scott by attempting to eat it with a spoon.

[@mm-ns1wb]

Scott: I don't even know anymore

[@dylanbacklund7655]

These two have such amazing chemistry it's actually engrossing to watch to the finish.

[@ChrisM-bn5vr]

Really looking forward to this series, Scott and Mark are hilarious together.

[@SonzOfEnoch]

i miss this show been years since ive been back wish they re brought this show back

[@FredWonder]

I’m from the Chicago land area and I gotta say I NEVER eat my deep dish with a fork and knife, i hold it with my hand. The way pizza should be eaten

[@CookingwithVROY1790]

People not from Chicago don't know how we eat. Lol they think we use forks

[@akiba1972]

You're so right and I really hate it when people think they know us or our city

[@BrayBray78]

I always thought they used forks too lol

[@HELL0NESSA]

@@CookingwithVROY1790 born and raised and I don't know a single person who eats deep dish with their hands.

[@HELL0NESSA]

@@BrayBray78 we do

[@jraymond1988]

It is a pizza, but if someone says "hey, let's go get pizza" or "I got you a pizza" I wouldn't think of deep dish. Someone would specifically have to qualify it with "deep dish". Kind of like saying "turkey burger with cheese" instead of calling it a "cheeseburger"

[@anthonyperez6173]

Or a double cheeseburger rather than a hamburger ya fuck

[@DeltathRiylaan]

You had me until you said turkey burger. Chicago deep dish is quality, legit pizza. Turkey burgers aren't burgers. They're just turkey sandwiches.

[@menacetosociety9076]

ikr the analogy is so wrong one is choice of meat while the other is shape and size

[@DeltathRiylaan]

@@menacetosociety9076 Pizza is sauce and cheese on a crust. Deep dish pizza is just as much pizza as hand tossed or thin or any other kind of crust. The ingredients are exactly the same, it's just a matter of how you shape it. And really not even a significant difference. A hamburger has two components.. ground beef and bun. If it's missing one of those two ingredients, and INARGUABLY the more defining one (the beef), it's not a hamburger anymore. And if those guy argues that he said cheeseburger, cheeseburger irrefutably refers to a hamburger with cheese. If you gave the average consumer a turkey "burger" or a veggie "burger" or whatever instead of a real hamburger when they asked for a real hamburger, there would be a problem. If the same consumer walked into a pizzeria and ordered a pepperoni pizza and got a Chicago Deep Dish, they wouldn't complain that they didn't get a pepperoni pizza. Also, a lot of restaurants will have many kinds of burger "alternatives". Most authentic pizzerias specialize in a particular crust type, whether it's classic New York style or Chicago Deep Dish or whatever. So you know when you walk in what to expect. It's a style difference, not a completely different food.

[@bomber9912]

@@DeltathRiylaan Disagree. It is not only about ingredients. The term Pizza is very precisely defined by now and it is the Neaples style. It is even a UNESCO world heritage. In my opinion your example is pretty bad, especially because the Burger is not even an American creation, but in fact a German. A good example of comparison would be Champagne.

[@Johnny-ov7qe]

Vast majority of us that actually live in Chicago don’t eat deep dish. Unless you have out of town friends who want the novelty. Tavern style cut in squares is the unique Chicago style. Super thin and crispy.

[@igotthejuice2090]

I hate thin pizza tho

[@hightiermeme6015]

Pizza is like sex..even if it's bad...it's still pretty good

[@n4b1d]

you got that from that buzzfeed video about the tastiest pizza i've ever had

[@CedricBassman]

@@n4b1d I first heard this about 10 years ago. I don't think Buzzfeed was even a thing back then.

[@kermitthefrog3144]

Not school pizza

[@kermitthefrog3144]

@Nolwenn Appelbaum did u not eat school pizza taste like Clorox

[@bernardgoh699]

What about 1 dollar supermarket pizza.

[@apeirofn]

That's transition and the angle you are being filmed at makes this seem like a TV show 6:35

[@tosht2515]

Emmett mentions knife and fork in Italy. Yup, for personal pies served at sit down restos. However *_pizza al taglio_* (pizza by the slice) is eaten by hand. They're on display; you order by weight; it's heated; go. Great looking deep dish but Scott needs to find Chicago "stuffed" pizza. Pretty sure we can guess how Mark would react. This series is awesome...glad it's back. 👍

[@jvanness90]

I don’t really get your point. I’ve never seen Chicago deep dish sold by the slice. It’s mostly a dine in dish meant to be shared with others at the table. It seems to be just what you described

[@tosht2515]

@Jacob Van Ness Yup, you missed the point indeed. It's not the fact that deep dish isn't usually sold by the slice; it's that lots of pizza in Italy is eaten *_without_* knife and fork. And I specifically said _personal_ pies denoting a smallish pizza instead of a large pizza for the entire table...so this is not similar to Chicago deep dish as you concluded. Just to be clear, at a sit-down resto in Italy, you may see three diners with three pizzas in front of them all un-sliced. Everyone is using knives and forks happily eating their own pie.

[@jvanness90]

Tosh T so people eat pizza with forks and knives then? You still haven’t proven anything. Lots of pizza is eaten without forks and knives here. Lots is eaten without it there. The fact that it’s eaten with fork and knife doesn’t make it any less of a pizza.

[@tosht2515]

@Jacob Van Ness Not trying to prove anything. Just following up on what Emmett said about pizza etiquette in Italy. It’s really that simple. You’re thinking too much.

[@maritomoko4915]

@@tosht2515 I feel like you're writing about A and he understands W

[@kamabokogonpachiro6099]

"I'm gonna enlighten myself with your sausage" pause

[@alexlee4064]

Joseph Ibarra gotta be gay with the homies 🚫🧢

[@aaronlumbao5676]

Saw your comment right as they said it Lmao

[@z3bb374]

Aaron Lumbao BRUH SAME WTF

[@billyhighfill]

Your editing is out of this world. I love it.

[@rayendraabiyasa153]

okay..after not seeing this series not coming back for a while, i thought that it was done. But YEAH, finally you guys came back with season 2. love it.

[@briannguyen6386]

rayendra abiyasa I

[@dma93-ch]

Scott and Mark, such an improbable yet fulfilling pairing

[@8ymat]

Is it just me or is the music at 9:33 for every episode just awesome? What a series man, wow.

[@savarac276]

2:17 behind his left shoulders are Serbian Dinars :) that guy on 100 Serbian Dinars(blue one) is Nikola Tesla

[@Mehwhatevr]

5:00 haha really like the editing here. That three minutes was an eternity Good point about the sausage. The idea of having homemade sausage rather than preprocessed sliced sausage is appealing

[@sonnygallo5662]

Which is better ? The one that you want at the time. They're two different things containing the same basic elements.

[@Hoffyman]

I really like the way that the final part between the two was shot film wise with the pan and the zooms. Felt very friendly.

[@Drsivric]

Just to be clear there is a difference between Chicago style deep dish and Chicago style deep dish with sauce on top ordered from a proper Chicago Pizzeria. I don't know if it's the atmospheric conditions the water from Lake Michigan or the ovens but there seems to be a difference in taste texture and sometimes even appearance. Cheers

[@Charlie-qe6lv]

I'm going to have to make a point here: 90% of the time, when Chicagoans order pizza, it's thin crust, cut into squares. However, we do have excellent deep dish AND stuffed pizza. Deep dish is thicker crust, and cheese underneath, with sauce on top. Stuffed is crust over the ingredients, with sauce on top. The "Chicago Pizza is deep dish" is/was a Food Channel construction.

[@Charlie-qe6lv]

@@MmmBeer "They" call it "tavern style" on the Food Channel. However, of the dozens of pizza joints I've been to, including the ones that serve stuffed and deep dish (both different), all of them serve thin crust cut into squares.

[@Cooe.]

@@MmmBeer Post some actual, reputable historical documentation of earlier use in St. Louis vs Chicago please, or kindly stop parroting this EVERYWHERE with absolutely no backing information.

[@hunterrogers4042]

I know, really trivial but.. 'Do you have a forkin' knife?' That's why you should say 'Knife and Fork' in that order.

[@ビンガム]

Haha

[@YusuphYT]

I’ve never seen a deep pan pizza that looks good before... This looks delicious!

[@caoxnlopez2059]

Went to Emmett’s last week. Pizza (casserole) was fantastic, service was also great. Don't care what you call it, but it was delicious!!!

[@randomx4289]

"It is pizza.... Chicago pizza" xD xD

[@RCXSlayer]

Anyone thought of deep dish as a pie with pizza toppings instead of a pizza?

[@miloodidi]

Yeah a salty pie but its delicious

[@jojibot9193]

Milo Didi Sure

[@fnjesusfreak]

...isn't that what all pizzas are?

[@RCXSlayer]

@@fnjesusfreak well, deep dish literally looks like a pie and it's baked in a tin instead of a flat sheet, which pies are also baked in tins. When I see Italian pizzas, I wouldn't think of it as pie, but deep dish has some resemblance to pies :)

[@gokuss15]

That’s why people say “pizza pie”. A pizza is basically just is a savory pie.

[@JLCoslett]

The editing on these videos is superb.

[@auniquehandle]

Vietnam has one very very very weird Pizza called Pizza Tofu Bun Shrimp Sauce, try it sometimes lol

[@baohuynhquoc8620]

No

[@jacobestes]

What makes Mark so cool is his relaxed speaking. Listening to him talk is basically the opposite of this video. This video is like walking into a CiCi's pizza.

[@florian1320]

It looks like a quiche 100%

[@Codyfrank11]

The crusts should be a little more burnt to get that extra flavour but that’s just me...had Chicago pizza in Chicago and I remember that distinct detail about their pizza....amazing tho

[@cerebrumexcrement]

the really bad chicago style pizzas ive had were just super thick ass dough. the best ones were legit pies. several layers of toppings stacked on top of each other.

[@theLoveRocketjr]

The real deal

[@Tanekoshima]

Mark's accent is the most delicious thing I've ever heard. On my next visit to NY I'm 100% going by his pizzeria.

[@stevieboy2009]

9:25 he says shut the fuuuuckkk uppp with his eyes lol

[@8BlackBart8]

Mark has a little unrelenting, gruff, Italian-American New Yorker manner, but he's sensible and willing to listen and compromise his stance. It's very refreshing to watch, as opposed to many other KZbin videos I've seen of staunch, unyielding - yet differing - stances from tons of other Italian-American New Yorker pizza "elites."

[@mercce6750]

Am I the only one who burst out laughing when Mark said "Chicago pizza" 😂😂🍕?

[@ActionGolfers]

Emmett's pizza looks great but that dood's greetings coming and going super sincere, "Welcome", "I hope so". Seems like a real good dood. Should translate into good pizza...

[@Allen.Fepuleai]

I like the pizza purest guy. I saw him on ugly delicious. The world needs his kind

[@whenisdinner2137]

"New York Pizza is paper plates with pepperoni and cheese on it." That might be the real shit I've ever heard

[@reef2096]

Mark reallyyy looks like Skeet Ulrich and I can’t be the only one who sees it!

[@tobubiify]

i fuckin love the characters of these 2 Scott is a talkactive, adventurous pizza person and Mark is just tired of scott shit lol

[@spinningbacksidekick]

Love Chicago deep dish pizza and I love NY pizza. I've never understood the sentiment that "NYC pizza you eat on the go. Chicago-style you have to sit down to eat." I eat deep dish on the go. If you can't, start lifting weights. You'll get there someday.

[@ramencurry6672]

I’ve been to Chicago and New York. Both good pizzas but New York is the better pizza city. Although I enjoy Chicago pizza, New Haven pizza is generally better too overall

[@haroldbenton979]

Should have brought him a Chicago Tavern thin crust that would make him wonder how thin can we make a crust.

[@ramencurry6672]

He probably already knows since that super thin crust is a thing at Joe and Pats pizza in Staten Island and their super thin pizza is widely known among New York pizza enthusiasts

[@NewWaveMasquerade]

OMG finally, I was wondering when there would be new episodes! I was beginning to think that maybe it was canceled and I'm pleased to see that isn't the case. And now I'm hungry for Pizza again, even though I had some last night.

[@thrillist]

There's always tonight.

[@gwarfanatik]

This is literally the same show as The Pizza Show just with different hosts. Very original.

[@kesprrr9271]

That pizza would be amazing with a layer of ricotta

[@DeltathRiylaan]

Then it really would be a casserole.

[@coolguy-kx9df]

1:58 You vs the guy she tells you not to worry about 😂😂😂

[@henryquinn1795]

LOVE this series. So excited to see it come back. Keep it up!

[@iistyleszii]

Literally sat where he was at emmetts. Best deep dish pizza in manhattan hands down. It was beautiful and delicious

[@mikhailtucker8742]

0:50 waiting for Jon Stewart to come out of nowhere.

[@stevenyu4155]

If deep dish is a casserole, new york pizza is a flatbread with tomato sauce and cheese

[@willvr4]

Good pizza is good pizza. I'm from NY, so I'm kind of a snob. But I've found good pizza in a few states at least on the east coast and mid-west. Never on the west coast. I wish there was some places in NY that served some quality deep dish chicago style pizza or bar style thin pizza, or some detroit style even here.

[@majopuerta]

will how would you describe a good pizza?

[@willvr4]

@@majopuerta It tastes good? lol It comes down to quality of ingredients and the mineral composition of the water, which is used to makes the dough. Any idiot can make a decent pizza with quality ingredients.

[@ZiPolishHammer]

From a Chicagoan looks good. Next time I'm in New York I'm stopping by Emmets.

[@TheLochs]

deep dish is the bomb. I used to go to Ginos in Chicago, That stuff is the best. I dont care what people say, its fuckin good. I do love thin crust as well. Pizza in general is awesome.

[@heythere9707]

TheLochs which Gino’s?

[@TheLochs]

@@heythere9707 Rush St.

[@heythere9707]

TheLochs I’ll check it out next time I’m down there

[@TeamMalunggay]

Good thing there is a season 2 to this

[@keilny]

Yesssssssss. It’s FINALLY back!

[@thrillist]

and better than ever!!!

[@wow123759]

This entire video feels like a fever dream lol

[@Michael-io3ik]

I’m curious to see what mark thinks of Detroit pizza

[@aimaim1280]

In Rome they eat it with a knife and fork. Pizza isn’t even sliced. An immigrant in America started to slice the pizza.

[@machiningpaper]

Tomato quiche. Pizza is cheese on toast.

[@flozacoustic9941]

This guy:"This is superior the form of pizza" Me:laughs in neapolitan

[@vibecerra1234]

HERE FOR TIM AND DAVID...CANT WAIT TIL FEB 14TH!!!!!!

[@dylantech]

Who knew Tom Brady's older brother, Emmett, was such an accomplished, deep-dish pizza maker?

[@Treezy-07]

I agree with mark at the beginning of all these episodes, It's not pizza.

[@VINCEVAZ27]

Most chicagoans don’t eat deep dish. We do some times, but it’s become more of a tourist thing. We most eat what’s considered Chicago style thin crust, or tavern style pizza. It’s thin enough to get a little crackery at the bottom, but thick enough to have a chewiness on the top part of the crust, which we then cut in squares instead of slices.

[@Beul8677]

👍 how about reviewing the pizza in 🇯🇵 Love your pizza show!

[@michaelmcfarlane256]

Love these videos. If I ever end up over there, I know where I'll be going for a slice or two

[@Phantom1356]

But did New York Pizza Man and Chicago Pizza Man ever shake hands?

[@derrickseo9781]

Yeah when Chicago Pizza Man shook hands on a bet that he lost

[@ayedew9227]

Shook hands then used sanitizer

[@fragmuffino]

Show at 2:44 threw me for a loop when I saw the Serbian money in the background

[@waheedahsrecipes5004]

Chicago DEEP DISH one the BEST ones I love it can't wait to get one this week

[@juniorbravo9725]

The beginning of the video when he said “I just wanted a big knife “ got me hooked and the editing 😂👌🏽 very funny ! I don’t even know mark but in the beginning when the dude asked him a question his response was 😂”Not today” “idk anymore Scott “ 😂😂 SUBSCRIBED!!!and liked ! @ 3:25 even got me more hooked bouta watch those episodes Oml Scott is something else 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@2101643]

Finally i thought the series was over

[@thrillist]

Never!!

[@jstvns961]

I love deep-dish and I love NY style. But here in Chicago we only eat deep dish on special occasions or if we get a random craving for it. We eat tavern style like: Phil's, Freddie's and Lina's (RIP) in Bridgeport, Giovanni's and Sorrento's in Montclare, Palermo's on 63rd and Vito and Nick's in Ashburn. Southside pizza for life.

[@windowsxp2269]

I feel like mark now has ptsd after all the not pizzas

[@herowither12354]

It's neither, it's a pie.

[@bryonblack8909]

Chicago tavern pizza is the best pizza! Aurellios in my opinion is the best but there are so many good pizza places in Chicago.

[@mohammedahmed5349]

The chemistry between these guys made me subscribe 🔥

[@benvance8726]

Chicago style is a pie a literal pie

[@kajull]

Please keep the nice attitude an the minimal editing This episode was extraordinary

[@Adrienne3071]

I'm so hungry right now... I should not be watching this 😦

[@theshadowlands14]

You know why New Yorkers call deep dish a cesserole? Because they know it's better than NY slices. If they call it a casserole than NY slices are still the best pizzas. Whereas if they call it a pizza then they're acknowledging that its a better pizza, but their pride won't allow them.

[@enigma3383]

This man said New York pizza is a paper plate with tomato sauce and cheese on it. That hurt me on another level

[@Markkxd]

It's basically true

[@enigma3383]

@@Markkxd Boy, those are fighting words

[@hustle_simmons]

While having a fucking restaurant in New York. The disrespect

[@evilpingeon]

This series is awesome!

[@L2.Lagrange]

I literally made a weird surprised excited noise when I saw that there was a new episode of Really Dough. This show is amazing lol

[@thrillist]

Thanks Jimmy, keep spreading the love.

[@elephantmarch]

To me this is like debating whether a Cheescake is better then a Chiffon Cake. They're both GOOD; the metrics of weighing the quality of them are different as they're going for different things, and you want them at different times with different appetites

[@gunselpehlivan7293]

Yasss! Who edited thisss? SO GOOOOD!

[@ThatChrisMurphy]

Almost as good as the editing in $5 Brunch!!!

[@thrillist]

Killin' it!!

[@ActionNewsNetwork]

I love Mark's attittude towards pizza, a tru New Yorker