Woodturning: Turning A Travel Mug-The Cherry Burl Revisited With a Removable Insert and Epoxy Finish

[@curtisclements2753]

AWESOME CUP INSERT YOU DONE A BEAUTIFUL JOB ON IT AS ALWAYS SWEETIE YOU ARE A INSPIRATION TO ALL WOOD TURNERS KEEP UP THE BEAUTIFUL WOOD WORK YOU JUST DO FANTASTIC ART WITH EVERYTHING YOU TURN KEEP UP THE AWESOME WORK TAKE CARE AND STAY SAFE PEACE BE WITH YOU AND YOUR FAMILY AND FRIENDS GOD BLESS YOU ALL AND KEEP THE WOOD CHIPS FLYING I JUST LOVE ALL YOUR VIDEOS I HOPE YOU AND YOUR FAMILY AND FRIENDS HAVE WONDERFUL WEEK🍀💓🦅🇺🇸😀

[@LisaRamlow]

Thanks Curtis 😁

[@colincoaton8448]

Love the removable idea. Fantastic mug. 👍🏻

[@LisaRamlow]

Thanks Colin!

[@mpart_woodlathe-stuff]

Yess ! Mad scientist is in the house!! Magnets come in so handy. Looking great Lisa, thanks for the lesson 🙏 Stay safe. -Mike😷💉

[@LisaRamlow]

Hi Mike! Next time I’ll incorporate the glue line into the design and I’ll just about have it!

[@mpart_woodlathe-stuff]

@@LisaRamlow I didn't want to say. A few accent rings hides them real well. I'm sort of thinking a band of flat aluminum craft wire (?) inlay can even hide the disjointed grain of the parting tool. I think I forgot to say how sweet the cherry is !!!

[@richkeelan1312]

Awesome travel mug really like the burl and finish you used great job Lisa

[@LisaRamlow]

Thanks Rick! I’m really pleased with how it turned out 😊

[@nordyfamily]

Great project, great job. It's a bummer that cut line is visible, but when your hand is wrapped around it, it will be gone. When you set it down, turn it to the side you like. Thanks for making these. I admire your turning skills.

[@LisaRamlow]

Thanks Richard. Next time I’ll incorporate the glue line into the design. The bur is so pretty I figure it won’t be noticed too much 😁

[@jeanlong4285]

Great idea for keeping your beautiful cup out of the water.

[@LisaRamlow]

I figured there had to be a way!

[@Pastorbarry1]

Lisa, I have enjoyed all of your videos that I have watched. I’m getting back into wood turning after a long absence. The thing that I enjoy about you is that you are not intimidating to me. I just bought a new Laguna and am planning on turning a lot of projects similar to yours. Thanks again for sharing your successes along with your mistakes.

[@LisaRamlow]

Hi Barry! Glad to hear you’re getting back into it - such great fun! I really like my Laguna and I think you will too. What size lathe?

[@jamesrbrink9645]

Beautifully done, Lisa!

[@LisaRamlow]

Thank you James!

[@lakeshorewoodturner5136]

Beautiful wood. Great job Lisa.

[@LisaRamlow]

Thanks! It really is something

[@davidhenry7585]

Interesting project. Looks like it would make a great gift!

[@LisaRamlow]

Thanks David, that’s exactly what this one was 😁

[@robert488]

Excellent work Lisa!!

[@LisaRamlow]

Thank you Robert!

[@RickTurnsWoodturning]

Great work, Lisa!

[@LisaRamlow]

Thank you Rick, I appreciate it 😊

[@BrickhouseCraftWorks]

Great video and great travel mug Lisa! - Seth

[@LisaRamlow]

Thanks Seth! That cherry burl is really something!

[@Chris-kr7rq]

Great video and a beautiful burl travel mug, just a suggestion do your cut line down in-line with the internal bottom and when you have glued it together scribe and wire burn 3 lines with the centre line been your cut line that will then hide the cut and nobody will know, hope this helps. Keep up the great work and keep safe.

[@LisaRamlow]

Thanks Chris! I will definitely change the positioning of the cut line next time and make it part of the design, whether it’s using burn lines or a strip of resin or maybe a contrasting wood. Thanks for watching and for the suggestion 😃

[@AndysCornishCreations]

Hi Lisa... really beautiful travel mug... I would be more than happy owning one of those.... I wish that they did the kits over hear but for some reason they don't... great video... take care...All the best.....Andy

[@LisaRamlow]

Hi Andy! Bummer - but I’ve got another idea I want to try so stay tuned 😉

[@TroyAReich]

Saw "MUG" and knew it would be good and clicked right away! Haven't even watched the video yet "Nice Mug!"

[@LisaRamlow]

Thanks Troy! It turned out nicely 😊

[@MrVillafum]

Always enjoy your videos Lisa!. Hope you don't mind a small tip. Next time just hollow the piece from both ends... (similar to removing the pith from an endgrain piece or hollowng a very tall vase...) you could then use a wooden insert with your magnets to plug the bottom and avoid having to cut the piece in two. Thanks, V

[@LisaRamlow]

That’s a good idea. Steady rest would make that a bit easier I think - haven’t done any tall hollowing yet. Thanks for the tip 😊

[@bradwiebelhaus7065]

Great project, liked the turner also.

[@LisaRamlow]

Thanks Brad!

[@Oonagh72]

Out of all that beautiful work, what doe la my mind go to? That genius sandpaper pipe. You are all the levels of brilliant!

[@LisaRamlow]

😂 I made bandsaw boxes for several years, and then carved them so there was a TON of sanding. I’ve rigged up some crazy sandpaper-holder-things to get into the little nooks and crannies 😆

[@andyoverall1951]

Yes, I see. This will last longer I think. Nice work.

[@LisaRamlow]

I was very disappointed to discover that SS isn’t really magnetic 🙄

[@bnaivar]

I'm definitely making a rotisserie stand. Thank you for the close-up stills!

[@LisaRamlow]

Hi Bill! Absolutely-it really works nicely and I’m glad I’ve got the option to use the rotisserie motor on or off the lathe 👍

[@stevehartman5003]

This looks fantastic. Might I suggest that if you are concerned about the glue joint showing, turn some beaded ribs to include the glue seam in one of the grooves.

[@LisaRamlow]

Hi Steve! Yeah, next time I will definitely incorporate the glue line into the design with either some burn lines or a strip of epoxy or contrasting wood or something. I’ve decided the burl is just so pretty you’ll not notice the glue line 🙃

[@clivefelgate9802]

Really enjoyed the mad scientist ingenuity of this vid. The mug mk2 is a winner. Keep safe and well.👍

[@LisaRamlow]

Thank you Clive! 😊

[@WOODTURNINGBYBRANDSTRUP]

Great video .. and a beautiful mug...I love you Grill rotisseri turned to woodturning tool i have to copy that some day :-) Stay safe 😀

[@LisaRamlow]

Thank you Kim!

[@kingfisherwoodturing5330]

Gorgeous piece! Any coffee drinker would love to have this cup!

[@LisaRamlow]

Thanks! 😊

[@mikesenart2217]

Love the look

[@LisaRamlow]

Thanks Mike! It’s hard to go wrong with such a pretty piece of wood 😉

[@chriscollins7664]

Nice work Lisa, I really like the rotisserie finisher! Very inspiring 😀

[@LisaRamlow]

Thanks Chris!

[@joeywalker4392]

Great video. Enjoy watching you turn the mug. Maybe if you do another one you might add a strip of copper to hide the spot where you glued it back together. You do fantastic work. Hope you have a wonderful weekend.

[@LisaRamlow]

Thanks Joey, I’m glad you enjoyed the video. I’ll definitely do something to incorporate the glue line as part of the design next time 😊

[@elainewillingham4859]

Sitting here admiring my spalted apple cup holder while I watch you create a travel mug from a chunk of wood. You are amazing!

[@LisaRamlow]

😁

[@davemccann7510]

Another option to eliminate any glue line on the outside of the finished mug. Move the glue line to the underside of the bottom. Start by turning a recess in what will become the lower end of the mug. Then mount a piece in the chuck and turn a matching plug. Install the magnets same as you did, except now, the magnets are in the plug. Glue the plug (while still on the lathe) and the mug blank together and complete the turning as usual. Hope this makes sense and you can understand the the glue line is now hidden in the base of the finished mug. The plug could be a parted off portion of the burl or most any wood.

[@LisaRamlow]

Hi Dave! That’s a great idea. I’ll do a little more experimenting on the next one. One of the reasons I made the cut line where I did is because I don’t have a hollowing system and the very end gets a bit dicey with so much hanging off the tool rest. I made the cut line right at where I stopped withe the smaller of the forstner bits which allowed me to hollow the bottom part, which was only a few inches deep at this point. So I’ll either do like you’ve suggested and plug the bottom (is this a good excuse to get a boring bar!?) or I’ll incorporate the glue line into the design, with either burn lines or a strip of resin or contrasting wood or something.

[@stevedoolanTacoma]

You could have burned some lines with a wire to incorporate the glue line into a design. First to cover the glue line and then 3 or 4 more lines to make it interesting. Great mug and awesome Idea with the magnets by the way.

[@LisaRamlow]

Hi Steve! Yeah, I’m not sure why I didn’t try to blend it in - guess I figured the burl was so pretty you’d not notice the line!? Next time I’ll I’ll incorporate the glue line into the design. Thanks for watching and for taking the time to leave me a comment-I really appreciate it! 😃

[@JeffSmith-xt4py]

Lots of great info...!!

[@LisaRamlow]

Hi Jeff, I’m glad you found it helpful 😊

[@jackthompson8019]

You should be proud to drink your morning coffee from this mug.

[@LisaRamlow]

Thanks Jack - it is awfully pretty!

[@anthonyfletcher7574]

Nice work

[@LisaRamlow]

Thanks Anthony!

[@jean-louishoules5198]

A nice piece and good ideas, (I perhaps would have burned the line between the two wood parts with two/three close lines, to look a voluntary decorative effect ). congratulations from a French new subscriber. ( I just discovered your chanel). 😊👍

[@LisaRamlow]

Hi Jean-Louis, welcome! Yes, next time I’ll incorporate the glue line into the design somehow. I want expecting it to be that noticeable, but ha e just decided that the burl is so pretty you’ll not. It I’ve the line 😂 Thanks for watching!

[@travler41]

Just subscribed because I'm impressed with your work! I'm sure I'll pick up a few tricks from you in the future. I don't have any of my wood working on utube yet, but maybe someday after I get back from my travels from the Philippines. Keep up the good work!

[@LisaRamlow]

Thank you Greg! I’m sure having fun 😁

[@ewbeal]

Awesome!!

[@LisaRamlow]

Thanks Eric!

[@timfry4379]

I like it!

[@LisaRamlow]

Thanks Tim! Me too 😁

[@markhall1510]

Nice work! It is almost impossible to make an invisible joint on end grain. Best to accent the joint with a bead or....

[@LisaRamlow]

Thank you Mark! I wasn’t really worried about it when I did it cuz I usually have pretty good luck with glue lines but will definitely incorporate it into the design next time with some burn lines or strip of resin contrasting wood or something. I’ve decided the burl is just so pretty you’ll not notice the glue line 😊

[@nicholascool8964]

Very nice, I've never seen a skew used as a scraper

[@LisaRamlow]

That’s about the only way I’m comfortable with a skew! 😂 And it’s good thing I got my 6” grinder hooked up with the Wolverine jig cuz my 8” Rikon grinder puked and I haven’t been able to get in touch with them yet to get it taken care of

[@nicholascool8964]

@@LisaRamlow yikes on the grinder. I puckered up when I saw you using the skew as a scraper. Please be careful.

[@LisaRamlow]

No worries on the skew - it’s just a negative rake scraper in that orientation 😉

[@oldmanwoodcraft]

Very very nice i love it , you gave me an idea for a project thanks . if i may and i hope you will not be upset with me . you can see the joint line , I wonder why you didn't do it as a part of the design making two more lines and hi speed burning them with a wire . Cheers Ahron

[@LisaRamlow]

Hi Ahron! I’ve made hundreds of wood laminations for bandsaw boxes and have always had good luck with glue joints, but I’ve never used epoxy as an adhesive in that manner so it didn’t really occur to me that maybe I should have used wood glue, assuming that would have made it less visible. Next time I’ll definitely incorporate the line into the design as a burn line or strip of resin or constructing wood. For this one I’m just going to assume the burl is so beautiful you will be focused on that and not on the glue line 😉

[@cookiescoop6065]

Very nice ✌

[@LisaRamlow]

Thank you!

[@helenburke9507]

I believe your middle name is “ Macgiver” . You have such away with making tools to work with. PVC pipe n sand paper. Lol. Enjoyed this vid very much. Hope you don’t mind if I share with a wood turner friend . Perfect idea and thank you so much. Stay well .

[@LisaRamlow]

Thanks Helen! Please share away 😊

[@joannkister2540]

Nice

[@LisaRamlow]

Thank you Joann!

[@johnvaluk1401]

Very nice! Would love to use it! As far as that line, maybe a stripe of colored epoxy as an accent would hide the separation? Very nice as always! Thanks again for sharing

[@LisaRamlow]

Yes, I’m thinking that I’ll use it as an opportunity for an “accent “ and make it look like it’s supposed to be there 😊

[@wakelywanderer12]

Love this video and your use of magnets. You might try hiding the glue line behind one of a few decorative burn lines. Did you do a video on hooking up the rotisserie turner to your lathe? I haven’t been getting notices of your videos. p.s. I’m going to experiment inserting magnets using a thin metal Rod and some c.a. Thanks for the removable idea.

[@LisaRamlow]

I did, it's here: Woodturning: Turning A Dragon Egg-Mallee Burl & Resin Underwater Cavern Egg+BBQ Rotisserie Hookup kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6Olg6Kfmdipmbc I'm only just now getting back to getting videos out on a more regular schedule- almost done editing one and am hoping to have it up Thursday 👍

[@CaptainZeroCaine]

What's the size on that big forstner? Great work, and great video!

[@LisaRamlow]

Hey there! I don’t actually remember which one I used here, but the biggest I have are 2-1/8” or 2-9/16” or 3” so one of them 😂

[@curtisbancroft4070]

Just a quick suggestion. I'm a beginner to wood turning so not sure if it would have been a good idea or not, but couldn't you have put a few accent burn lines on the seam to hide it? Love watching your video's great job

[@curtisbancroft4070]

dang after typing it I saw Brett's comment LOL

[@LisaRamlow]

No worries Curtis! Next time I will definitely incorporate the glue lines into the design with with either burn lines or a strip of resin or contrasting wood or something. I‘be decided the burl is just so pretty you’ll never notice the line 😂

[@davo-h1t]

Looks good, nice finish. I think all you should need to do is coat the inside of the wood. The average travel mug doesn't pull apart and I dont think they have issues. Just my thoughts. Gotta make me one of those rotating gizmo's. Pity you can't buy them pre made like that! LR can you fit a bowl to that one at all?

[@LisaRamlow]

Hi Chris! Not really any way to use the tumbler turner for a bowl - that’s what the hookup to the lathe is for 😁

[@davo-h1t]

I'll have to look at your other vid to see how u connect to the lathe or the chuck.

[@jbaker7903]

To avoid the cut line in the middle try going in from the bottom and plugging it with similar wood

[@LisaRamlow]

Hi there! Yes, next time I’ll go thru the bottom or incorporate it into the design 😊

[@Amybaumgart]

Where did you get the beautiful piece of cherry burl? When you were putting the epoxy on the inside was that your rotisserie motor or the lathe at about 50? You are very creative with your setup at the end!! Your videos are great!! Thanks so much h for all the time I can only imagine these videos take!!

[@LisaRamlow]

Hi Amy! I bought a bunch of burls from a woman whose husband had passed - he made bowls but he carved them. Most of them are super cracked and will require resin to make them solid enough to turn, but this one was solid enough to get 2 of these tumbler mugs out of, plus a bunch of smaller pieces for other projects. It came from here in west-central Michigan but I’ve never seen this kind of grain before. It’s just fantastic! I had the bbq rotisserie motor hooked up to the lathe when I coated the inside of the mug. 50rpm from the lathe would still be too fast. The resin self-levels nicely at whatever the rpm of the rotisserie is, I’m guessing somewhere between 2-5 rpm? The setup at the end for the off-lathe tumbler turner isn’t my design, I just watched a bunch of videos by epoxy tumbler makers and used them as a starting point. Whoever figured out the compression donut to hold the mug is a genius - way better than using the foam footballs stuffed in the cups! 😂 They are a bit time consuming that’s for sure. Shooting 3 camera angles makes editing more tedious but I like the variety of views so I just suck it up and get it done! 👍

[@gregoryh4601]

Lisa. You are awesome in this design nice thinking. Why 🧲 stick to ice Box that is a Paint and a lot of people Buy stainless because they think it the Best. Just a sale pitch to get $100 more. Thanks Greg of Ohio

[@LisaRamlow]

That was actually my first thought after I realized the magnets wouldn’t stick to the insert - magnetic paint. But it’s like $35 for a small can so I thought I’d try this idea out first and see how it went. You’d only have to paint the very bottom on the insert, several coats would probably be sufficient as I have a pretty snug fit after the resin coat on the inside and it’s in no danger of falling out!

[@vickyb1219]

Great video thanks! Can I ask what size your largest, final drill bit was please as I'll need to buy one 😊

[@LisaRamlow]

Hi Vicky! I’m not positive but I think that is either a 2” or a 2-1/8” forstner bit.

[@vickyb1219]

@@LisaRamlow brilliant, thanks so much!

[@mikksweeney8804]

Really nice piece! I wonder if you could have put a piece of brass or stainless steel where the join is? To be honest the join does no bother me :)

[@LisaRamlow]

Hi Mikk! Yeah, next time I will definitely incorporate the glue line into the design with either some burn lines or a strip of epoxy or contrasting wood or something. I’ve decided the burl is just so pretty you’ll not notice the glue line 🙃

[@theguitarpicker]

It looks like the only reason you made the cut at the bottom was to install the mags, you can buy extra long drill bits, they are usually called aviation bits as they are used/originated with the aviation industry. They're not very expensive (compared to other woodworking expenses, they cost more than regular bits) and you could make the holes for the mags without cutting the blank.

[@LisaRamlow]

Hi there! You’re right about the magnets but I also cut it there to make the hollowing a little easier. I don’t have a hollowing system or boring bar yet and to get to the bottom of the mug gets a little dicey with so much hanging over the tool rest. I have several pretty long drill bits (my dad was a machine builder/repair/tool & die maker and has a ton of tools he picks up at estate sales, etc) so once I get the hollowing end straightened out I can either drill thru the opening or use a plug on the end for the magnets. This was definitely an experiment! 😂 Thanks for the tips and for letting me know what those bits are called 😊

[@DiemenDesign]

That's really nice. I wonder if a Spray Epoxy, or even Lacquer would be a good hard wearing finish as well. I also wonder if using Rare Earth Magnets would work better with the Stainless Insert, but then the washer would also help add weight for balance. I'm going to have a look into some of these kits, esp. if they come out as good as yours. Oh, while I remember, I found the sound to be quite low in your video.

[@LisaRamlow]

Hi there! I think a spray finish would work nicely too. These actually are rare earth (Neodymium) magnets, it’s just that most stainless steel is not really magnetic. There are some types that are slightly magnetic, but not enough. I may try some magnetic paint on the liner as opposed to the washer and see how that works out. Regarding the volume, I had someone tell me the shop sounds were way too loud when there was no voiceover and made it so he couldn’t keep the voiceover lid enough to hear without blowing him out when it went back to the shop sounds. I lowered the overall volume some, assuming you can turn it up but maybe that was too much? Can you increase the volume on whatever you’re watching enough to be viable or is it just too low all the way around?

[@DiemenDesign]

I watched on my laptop, and increased the volume to 150% in the OS (Linux), and full volume with the YT Player, and was barely able to hear you speaking. Not sure what the other person is talking about with Workshop noise, I don't recall hearing that in any of your other videos.

[@LisaRamlow]

Ok I’ll adjust the volume back up and see how it goes. Appreciate the feedback 😊

[@DiemenDesign]

Maybe even 25% higher, not sure if your video editor does, I use KDEnlive in Linux, and it works out volume in percentages. Appreciate you sharing your work. I need to stop being slack and upload more videos myself, lol.

[@delurquhart7324]

awesome project but i have looked at reviews for the insert u r referring to on woodcrafts website & most of the reviews are bad says it leaks from the lid & the lid doesnt stay tight after a few uses have you had any problems like these & have you ordered very many

[@LisaRamlow]

Hi there! I think there are a couple of “versions” of this insert kit and maybe the reviews are referring to that one. I bought 2 of these kits and they have a screw-on lid with the little slider thing to cover the hole. The first one I made l was for a giveaway and the winner Mel chimed in here earlier saying the travel mug version 1.0 is all good so he hasn’t had any issues so far. Check the reviews and see if they are talking about a “friction fit” or “screw-on” lid and maybe that will help you sort them out.

[@LisaRamlow]

I asked Mel about his mug leaking and he said the screw-on lid doesn’t leak, but the slider over the sippy-hole isn’t liquid tight if flipped upside down, which I would not expect it to be. Hope that helps!

[@delurquhart7324]

Thanks for all your help

[@chrisstewart8259]

Why not bore out the cup blank and make a "butt plug" for what will be the base of the mug. Make this plug out of a contrasting wood. You can then drill the base plug with the requisite holes to hold the magnets into that plug. Then glue that plug into the hollowed out cup. Then get the length right by slowly and carefully reducing the length of the top seating lip for the SS insert. This will overcome the glue line in the centre of the cup. PS - I make these cups myself here in Australia. But never done a removable insert type.

[@LisaRamlow]

Sounds like a great idea Chris! I haven't made another since this one but I'll definitely give that a shot if I do another travel mug. Thanks for the tips!

[@customcraftsbybruceslaton4872]

Note to self; Make a tumbler rotisserie.

[@LisaRamlow]

Pretty cheap and works really well!

[@emgiwoodworks]

That Travel Mug will not come cheap, considering the amount of work you put into it. Is it for yourself or did you make it for someone else? I like!

[@LisaRamlow]

Hey Leo! This is a commission and an experiment so it was definitely more labor intensive than it could/should have been. If there’s one thing I’ve learned being a woodworker for 20 years is that our hourly rate is way below the poverty level 😂

[@skyflyer2494]

Where did you get the insert for this mug I need one for a mug I'm working on

[@LisaRamlow]

I got this one from Woodcraft- it’s the WoodRiver brand

[@charliemckay6402]

When using epoxy an amber colour hides joints best because epoxy joints have a visible thickness. Mixing wood dust into the epoxy hides the joint the best and does not affect the quality of the bond. Only sanding with a 60-80 grit sandpaper makes an ideal epoxy bond and getting the sanding lines to line up hides the joint because the coarseness of the sanding lets the two faces blend together.

[@LisaRamlow]

Next time I’ll make the glue line part of the design

[@alinmayerthorpe7801]

Love the travel mug Lisa, I have never seen that way to finish before and enjoyed another way of finishing! Thanks for another great video! Cheers Al

[@LisaRamlow]

Thank you Al! There are certainly some projects that are ideal for an epoxy finish. Now I’ve got the option to do that on or off the lathe 😊

[@exotictones1054]

What are you using in the tail stock.i see some folks using those.

[@LisaRamlow]

Not sure what you’re referring to? I think the only thing I used in the tailstock (other than the tail center) is the drill chuck for holding the drill bits when drilling.

[@exotictones1054]

@@LisaRamlow I have a moorse tape in mine n I have to put something in it to hold wood.i have never seen a thread tail stock if that's what you have.the threaded piece that holds the wood on.

[@LisaRamlow]

My tailstock only has a Morse taper also. Still not sure which part of the video you’re asking about - is it when I glued the two halves back together?

[@exotictones1054]

@@LisaRamlow no it's what is in the tail stock that's threaded that's holding the wood.i have is 3 or 4 pointed ones.never seen this threaded one or maybe cup one.

[@LisaRamlow]

Oh! It is the tail center, sorry I was not understanding what you were asking about! This is the tail center that came with my Laguna lathe - it has the cone tip that threads on or you can use it like I have been as more of a cup center. I know OneWay and Robust also make tail centers like this. I can add different things to hold the wood by utilizing the threads, tho I haven’t yet. Here’s a link to the OneWay live center www.woodturnerscatalog.com/p/108/5487/oneway-Multi-Tip-Revolving-Center-4-Piece-Set?term=live+center

[@jimmieyoung925]

On your finish sanding add glue and saw dust to the line then sand it will make the line ALMOST disappear

[@LisaRamlow]

Thanks Jimmy!

[@charliemckay6402]

Stainless steel tends not to be magnetic but some stainless steel is somewhat magnetic.

[@LisaRamlow]

Yea, found that out. The magnets “thought about” sticking to the insert, but only briefly 😂

[@charliemckay6402]

@@LisaRamlow Probably not helpful, but the academic difference between stainless steels is, "The defining factor of magnetism comes down to the steel's microstructure. Martensitic stainless steels (which have a ferritic microstructure) are magnetic. Austenitic stainless steels contain nickel and are non-magnetic." More important is that stainless steel is not stainless if it is deprived of oxygen or exposed to basic substances like bleach. Never use stainless steel below a water line on a boat, birdbath, etc.

[@taylorleighty1060]

like what you are doing but it would be nice to hear what you are saying

[@LisaRamlow]

Hi Taylor! Apparently there are some issues with the volume level on this video - not sure why but I’ll adjust accordingly. Sorry about that!