Wooting 80HE - Gasket Mounting & Module Explained

A new week, a new update! This time, Calder explains a bit about the gasket mounting itself, but also the gasket mounting we use within the Wooting 80HE.
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[@b0die]

i love how vocal this company is

[@coolieee]

constantly seen optimum tech and badseed talking about the wooting so i finally ordered a module a few days ago and hopefully everything goes to plan (arrives at whouse the 28th and i got expid shipping), also seen all the vids on the "competition" on optimums channel and it amazes me even after years nobodies came close to a wooting yet plus makes me feel better supporting the smaller original company :) gonna be on foam for awhile though until kbd ships my holy60, may pick up a tofu in the meantime which also makes me happy i have the option

[@Relics]

Literally just watched him too. XD

[@peanutbutterbean1738]

yeah, also why i really intend to join the founders campaign for the 80he, really love the company and their values, really feels like us as a community are a part in bringing the products to life, just didnt get the 60he since i had a 60% board for about 3 years and grew to really dislike 60% and have since gotten a 75% board and i love it so far, and have been hoping for a product like this to release. This will probably be my endgame!

[@Daxter...]

I got my 60HE+ module not long ago and its really great so far, also that software is so good, many customization options not only esthetically but a bunch of useful features like the fn layers, and the actuation point and rapid trigger customization, also it does sound pretty great especially compared to my previous keyboard lol (steelseries apex pro tkl), night and day difference between steelseries in every single aspects

[@yhiz4757]

No offense but those are like the 2 worst channels to watch for keyboard advice lmao

[@Shlerp302]

haha same, i want optimum to test the 80he first tho...

[@filip9587]

Thanks for keeping us in the loop guys. As a 60HE owner, I'm really excited for everyone to try out the 80HE and customise it to their heart's content.😁

[@F3A5T]

Wooting not only has the best keyboard company but also the best lightweight keyboard macro software

[@DerpyYT]

You guys should consider removing one of the gaskets under the space bar. It makes the space bar sound better and feel a lot better.

[@Wooting]

I’ll give this a shot.

[@lordMYS]

I ABSOLUTELY enjoy your dedication. I really appreciate entrepreneurs who focus on innovation and customer value fist, instead of milking every cent. Thank you!

[@SP-by4vb]

You guys have the best keyboard on the market. The community appreciates you guys for you hard work and not pull a steelseries apex pro mini custom($379.00) on us. Can't wait for the wooting 80HE to hit the market.

[@RudeCanine]

Exciting. Can’t wait to get mine, hopefully somewhat soon

[@DeathePanda]

Im heading to china to visit my in laws, so i get the shutdown for the lunar festivals. So excited to see this product come out!! been waiting for it for ages! Keep up the good Work WOOTING!

[@richardhunter9779]

The gasket mounting method is EXTREMELY similar to what Niz, another contactless keyboard manufacturer, is doing. Only in this case it is a dampening mat, and Niz uses its rubber dome sheet. Cool to see, great update.

[@StHabibiJohnsonAhmedFranklin]

Freaking love your vids, thank you for your hard work Wooting!

[@LevvyKlister]

Nice update, cool ideas! The friction mounting is interesting and it would be nice if you include the o-ring o maybe just sell it for a little extra. For the case since the layout of the wooting is quite unique I doubt you can find third party, so it would be nice to have something like the alumaze for the 80. Waiting for preorder, definitely my next KB!

[@Wooting]

The friction fit pad will also function as the o-ring.We'll have all the 3D drawings available on our github, just like all our designs: github.com/WootingKb/wooting-design Not timeline yet, but we'll also make an example case with good inner dimensions that case makers can follow. Cases are often made with interest checks and then produced in low volumes. This should make it a very viable route. We'll in either case also start working on some fun different case ideas, similar to Alumaze. Thanks for the support!

[@ToriksLV]

Respect for these and communicating with costumers.

[@hexodious]

Interesting stuff. Hoping you'll look into the MX Mechanical Mini form factor on the next one! I use it for work and really appreciate that there is no dead-space.

[@n0ahg1]

Love wooting and love my founders 60HE but unfortunately I'm looking for a TKL to fit between my 60% and full size keyboards so I'll be looking at one of the other vendors to fill that gap.

[@marsyoya]

Make a numpad!! UWU is neat but a 15-25 key numpad could have larger application uses especially with reprogrammable input & per-key actuation

[@g0ggy]

Let them finish the 80HE bro 💀

[@marsyoya]

@@g0ggy they can brainstorm while they wait for molds and samples to come in bro 💀

[@fabuloustheking2753]

Why would you say uwu ?

[@knayvik]

​@@fabuloustheking2753its a wooting product

[@jochempeters1048]

​@@fabuloustheking2753because they have a keyboard made for OSU! that's called UWU

[@f3nneko]

This is exciting news to hear that the 80HE will be gasket mounted! A concern I do have though is that I personally am not a fan of the gaskets being a part of the silicon pad because this means that you *have* to use the silicon for the keyboard to be mounted. It would be nicer if you could have the option to modify the sound by making it an option to use or not use the silicon, options are always nice. The reasoning given for the mounting being a part of the silicon pad is understandable, but I feel there are better ways to support multiple mounting styles without it being tied to the silicon. I also will say that like someone else commented, yes, having no gaskets underneath the spacebar generally does improve the sound and feel.

[@Wooting]

This is indeed a disadvantage that I also acknowledged when we started this. The plan is to start with 100% silicone between, then start working towards minimizing or an alternative using existing structures. At the time, we needed to enter the gasket arena first and start feeling comfortable, and understand better what is and isn't important. I've come to the conclusion that we might as well create a pad under the PCB to rest the whole thing and use the gasket just for alignment and keeping it in place. You can add bounce by controlling the material under the pcb, functioning as a spring. in either case, more to explore here!

[@KaibillKaan]

Very informative video. The things that you guys are doing to make this a well thought out and forward thinking keyboard aka "pushing the limits" is awesome to see bts. This is what separates you guys from the the rest that just want a piece of the pie. Hopefully next weeks video talks more about the LED strip. I want to be convinced that its a good thing, because right now I don't. A poll after you guys talk about it would great. See if the community wants it/wants it gone, otherwise please consider making a small batch without it, for us that want that "aesthetically clean" look.

[@asterisk4424]

It sounds like this thing is really coming together. The only advice I have at this point it to take a deep look at the Boog 75 and figure out how you can get the sound of the board to a similar level. If this board can thocc out the box it will be a no brainier.

[@Spectrulight]

Not everyone likes thock

[@xugo91]

Yeah, silence keyboard are way better

[@savage-1952]

hey thanks that you guys are so transparent with your projects. i myself own a wooting 60HE with pbt keycaps. i have 1 request: can you guys make the edge above on the 80HE more symmetrical with the edge at the bottom ? it drives me crazy seeing this 😂

[@MatthewAng94]

Can’t wait!!! And ps I find ur voice really soothing.😌

[@anthonyharding4380]

If this translates to a quieter keyboard (compared to 60HE) then I'm sold :)

[@Wooting]

Yes it definitely does. The last part that we can do to make it more silent is a complete new switch.

[@o.benladen7678]

What is polling rate, and how does it exactly look like on a keyboard? And what polling rate do we feature in our own Wooting 80HE? Calder discusses it in this video.

[@josephrodgersjogabonito4624]

Very nice. The only problem I find with your product is the switch itself. As there is no bottom out sound, it sounds quite chattery due to the top housing. If you could film the top housing and/or create a way for a pole to hit the bottom of the switch a lot more people would buy he switches. Cheers🎉

[@Wooting]

I hear you. We're first rolling out better tolerances.

[@yuyuyu1016]

I can see that you are serious about your consumers, but I can't wait any longer. Anything with arrow keys would be fine for me😭

[@whozproxy]

I wish I could get an 80HE but, it’s just a bit out of my price range. I’ll have to stick with the 60HE!

[@dewmeister]

never expected to see SHOOBS on wooting channel LOL

[@DelScully]

I dont see any case makers making a case specifcally for a random size like this. If it was a 75% or tkl then maybe, though I hope they do or the case you guys make is a good one!

[@Spectrulight]

Wait what is the difference between tkl and 80%?

[@DelScully]

@@Spectrulight tkl is a standardized layout, easier to mod with.the 80he is missing a few keys as well, its basically the same amount as a 75% but blown out on the right side for no reason at all other than trying to be unique and make it harder for people to use other mods that arent their own.

[@Wooting]

@@DelScullythis is not entirely accurate. There are no standard cases for the 75%, and otherwise it’s just a popular case for which others had made mods specifically for. But nothing close to the tray mount 60%. The same for TKL, all the TKL cases out there have different mounting systems, all unique, requiring in most cases a different switch plate. Also the spacing between keys, F13, and daughter board placement, spacing, all differences and variations of them. I.e. You can’t purchase whatever TKL or 75% keyboard and swap it for a different case. Most case makers CNC a case at low quantities, do interest checks, and then group buys. They don’t invest in expensive molds and jigs for larger productions. Therefore case makers have the most flexibility. And what they often do is make a case around a certain PCBA solution on the market and often create a unique plate gasket mount system on top of it to carve their own customers base or create a unique selling point. Therefore, it is more important to have a market that is interesting enough (size and willingness to purchase) for a case maker to spend the time (profit) and make it easy for them to get started and save them cost on iterations needed to figure out all the internals.

[@DelScully]

@@Wooting there are exploded 75% and non exploded. WIth TONS of mods for the exploded and nearly every company under the moon making a version of it, even companies like razer are hopping on the wagon lol. I have personally built 4 75% layout keyboards, and before that bought an akko, as well as skyloong and modded them. They are all nearly exactly the same minus the usb port on 2. So sure, it is not entirely true, but that layout is becoming standardized like the 60% very swiftly.

[@DelScully]

@@Wooting and the last remark is what I am say as well. The market for this format of the 80 wont be big enough for most case makers to even consider it unless you guys personally do collabs with them, which I'd be all for personally but it will be a niche of a niche to say the least.

[@Luci_71]

I really need a gummy oring wooting board, that shit would be so fire. we just really need switches with 5 pin for plateless support

[@breakies]

i know its kinda early for that, but id love to know the pricing. im undecided between waiting for the 80HE and just getting an Steelseries TKL Pro currently and the price would be a big deciding factor for me fully knowing the 80HE will be just better.

[@Wooting]

You can make a good educated guess based on the 60HE price, you won't be spending crazy more.

[@breakies]

@@Wooting thank you 👍

[@_leatt]

This is looking real nice! What if the RGB bar could be swappable with a utility bar/knobs?

[@DarkStargamedev]

i can't afford it but i see all the latest news in hope some day I can afford it and make one of the best decision of my life

[@coolieee]

dw dude, by the time youre able to afford it theyll be a full blown huge company with prob every option your heart desires to customize it

[@thesalaryman4601]

Please consider including keycaps for the missing keys like "Home" and "End". I understand that it's too late now to change the layout but it would be nice to at least be able to remap the keys to our liking. Home and End are keys that I use daily, while others like Print Screen and Pause Break, not at all.

[@Wooting]

All the Keycaps are included and you can remap all the keys. So you can change it to whatever suits you

[@thesalaryman4601]

@@Wooting Good to know, thanks!

[@FUSEDFORCE]

Love a volume button

[@mimp8365]

Sick background!

[@seanjun6209]

like the akko, im concerned if the gasket will have problems with the calibration with the hall effect. I would love to also see a non-gasket kit separately or in the box

[@darkalastor92]

Will innovations be put on older models? like the "Two HE"

[@CharcharoExplorer]

Id love a Wooting Two HE V2 with this gasket + friction mount. And maybe a 60 HE2 as well (if it makes sense).

[@Wooting]

We try to create as much as possible backwards compatibility when creating new things. As long as it doesn’t completely limit or break the idea. This is specifically a priority for us on software. Hardware, it’s always more challenging as it’s a fixed state. The two HE, need to review again. Might have an idea.

[@Xaero_ZRX-33]

WOOTING 96HE PLEASE!!!!❤

[@chef3333]

Would’ve loved to see you take the two he and just chop off the numpad, love my two he but prefer tkls, the 80 doesn’t fit my needs.

[@etherealw]

Please add a utility knob whether it be play / pause or a volume knob

[@particularist11]

Take my money already!

[@Eclipsecubing]

Can't wait

[@patrikholmberg2861]

Cant wait! =D

[@ohweirdo6307]

dude my mom has a friend which that friends brothers are coming to my country for a visit and i told them to order the woothing 80HE but now its not available after the timer thing, soo now if the keyboard doesnt go out to the public before of the end of nextmonth im screwed, then i need to order the keyboard online which is more money... and thats my birthday gift::( please release it alreadyyyy

[@TW2LV2]

As someone who has built and modded many custom and prebuilt keyboards, as creator who's seen a lot of designs, this is very interesting but I honestly dont like the idea of the mount being integrated with the mid dampening.. If anyone wants to ditch the mid foam to achieve a specific sound or experiment to hear what it sounds like without foam, this board would not be an option.

[@bluecost]

Could we have a real TKL? I am not a fan of the 80%. I need the buttons for programming having the TKL is nice to have 1 keyboard for everything gaming and working!

[@kantoS1337]

give this keyboard to the all shops in poland ! like XKOM komputronik and morele and mediaexpert we WANT THIS PERFECT KEYBOARD BUY EASIEST !!!!!!

[@bobysenpai]

Hey Wooting i have a question. I keep seeing statements that Two HE has slower latency/actuation than 60HE. Is this true? Will 80HE be fast as 60HE? I just want arrow keys but wanted the fastest keyboard

[@lepari9986]

The 80he will definitely be at least as fast as the 60he.

[@user-fc9co5nb7p]

Wooting is the goat❤

[@Haru_no_ki]

Really wanted an TKL wooting, but saw this... Also that rgb bar is a no go

[@NxghtK]

Plz make the Alumaze more chunkier(heavier) like a 2.0🙏😭

[@user-qb8fb3bg6i]

great but ordering one will take months and months and releasing this product will take like 5 months or more you guys are great and I love your way of creating these products but unfortunately the process of shipping and making new keebs take too much time which it's turn off for me and others who really like your products I wish for you guys the best

[@nobodynoone2500]

So no upgrades for the full-size?

[@fonzareli9619]

Hey SCARCE HERE 😂

[@romanmetenka1619]

Hello, thanks for such amazing keyboard, is it possible to apply 8000 pooling rate same as the Corsair K70 Max has? If yes, then definitely would be one of the first who buy it. Thanks

[@RobiLemos10]

Alumaze gasket mount version would be nice 😅

[@booleann___]

Wooting goated

[@Drag44448]

We need small keyboard for gaming

[@A2TheB]

Wederom ... Goed bezig!

[@SmartedPAnda]

Hey this is cool and all but WHERE ARE YOU FILMING?! WHY IS THERE NO ROOF?!

[@TylerHerz]

I'm gonna cry. I just got the 60he for Christmas and they are already making a new and better keyboard 🥲

[@johnepic2422]

Hi Guys, I've seen a ton of positive reviews for 60HE. I need a new keyboard, but I'd also like to know how the HE80 will be different. Are these answers coming soon? or will I have to wait until the founders campaign? I saw I strip over the arrow keys and it makes me wonder - what does it do. Also - will you use the same switches as used in 60HE? Is there any upgrade - quality-wide to 80HE over 60? thanks very much for any response.

[@johnepic2422]

one question tho, what is this thing above the arrow keys and what does it do?

[@boofhead711]

I hope (way) later on we can see a higher end full size board with all the bells and whistles doing great with community reach out btw

[@K3ruko]

Already that it takes them more than 1-2 weeks to answer an email and it takes more than 2-4 months before sending a keyboard I can't imagine when the 80he will come out it takes them 20 years to receive very good quality storage my if you want to wait years before receiving your keyboard you are in the right place

[@tyrizzle6284]

after the 80he are you guys gonna consider making a tkl 🥺

[@schnozfart]

Would it be possible to get any dimensions on the width? Or too early still

[@zertbrown4642]

cool stuff

[@zzt8819]

I am a Chinese player, I want to know whether the first batch of 80HE will continue to cooperate with zfrontier this time, I know that wooting store can also buy, but the extra postage is a little too high for me, and many of my friends are also very concerned about the 80HE this time, they want to experience this keyboard in the first batch

[@Cagefighter]

Totally off topic but do you guys have 2 meter cable that can be bought for my 60he?

[@darkchampion4069]

hand-purple-blue-peace

[@_kailyn197]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTing

[@Charbrose]

if you guys could sell a separate metal case thatd be cool.

[@amshermansen]

Zinc alloy - on launch.

[@SirRFI]

Can keys be remapped on the device level? I'd rather have: * HOME, FN+HOME=PGUP * END, FN+END=PGDN * DEL, FN+DEL=INS Replace PAUSE/BREAK with multimedia play/stop. What does "Mode" key do?

[@KaibillKaan]

Mode key I believe, if its anything like the other wooting keyboards, changes your saved profiles to either digital or analog. You can remap the keys to however you want.

[@tmaskk]

So do I just leave my credit card info in this comment or...?

[@phb8462]

Get rid of the light bar. Give us TKL.

[@MrAirsoft26320]

what is the difference whit a 80 he and 60 he

[@rawrj]

Will we get a gasket mount system for our 60HE?

[@browny9743]

keep up the good work and if there are any keybored you want to send please send it too me

[@Accuaro]

Seems like you know a lot about keyboard trends, if only you used this prior to the lil turbulence with the 80he 🤭🤭

[@orasssy]

When will Swiss ISO keys be available? plz😭😭😭

[@33.d]

Will this be faster than 60HE?

[@AAmxs]

can you make it available for purchase at stores? and make it global, waiting for months is not something most people would do, you can increase sale by doing this as well

[@Wooting]

We are trying to. But operationally there are challenges, not all things scale the same. Now we have a new interesting challenge with the 80HE. First production you always want to phase it, not go mega big, and then build up to larger and larger productions. This is not relevant if you just do a few thousand in a month, but the larger the productions, the more relevant.

[@Skyfixey]

you guys should make a controller.

[@CharcharoExplorer]

Can this type of mount be done on a 60He?

[@Wooting]

Good point. We can actually also make a gasket mount case for the 60HE, but it requires a top and bottom part to work. We are first working on having a friction fit pad for the 60HE (under development). Hmmm maybe a fun side project. Gasket 60HE.

[@CharcharoExplorer]

@@Wooting cool. I have a modded one would love a second one :D

[@CharcharoExplorer]

Wait the friction pad - could it be added to an already built keyboard? Like the PC plate upgrade for the original 60He? @@Wooting

[@Wooting]

@@CharcharoExploreryes, it’s a more effective and flexible method. That’s why we’re working on it.

[@aksioma2003]

Approximate release dates?

[@transmission335]

yaaay

[@user-qq2no7bm9h]

I did a lot of PCB testing under various conditions. Why did my Wooting 60he pcb lose the solder on the hall sensor on one part of the switch even though it wasn't shocked? I have used three Alu Housings. I was careful when replacing the housing and didn't get shocked anywhere, so why did the solder on the Hall sensor come off? It is difficult to send PCB repairs all the way from Korea, so I sent it to a private repair shop in Korea. So they said the Hall sensor fell off. I don't know if it's durable or not, but it may have happened because I was unlucky. This happened after only 4 months of use. Still, other very cheap PCB solders do not fall off easily. Since it was an overseas purchase anyway, I gave up on the AS service when purchasing it... so I think it is my responsibility to purchase it. So, I don't think there will be any need to buy a Wooting keyboard anymore.

[@Wooting]

It's best you reach out to customer service, we can help we replacement parts including the PCBA. The reason you can't (easily) solder is because it has a ant-spill coating over the entire PCBA. This coating is not only water proof, it's also heat resistant in the several hundred degrees. You can only scrape off the coating and it's honestly not a great experience. The coating is not applied the USB-C and connectors at the spacebar. You can usually see a slight white "skin" around the USB-C area, this is where the coating ends. This is done to make sure none of the connectors accidentally get coated. It's great for durability, not so great with repair (we realized over time). We didn't have a better alternative until recently. Our new coatings are not as heat resistant and can be removed with a solder pen. Also, we have world wide 4 year warranty and we ship these replacements worldwide as well. You didn't give up on anything.

[@natenate33]

65HE when?

[@Portocala69]

Where TKL?

[@Dad_K]

Lemme buy

[@ikono.]

wow almost like gasket hasnt been done like a abillion times the same way

[@ZAIBYR]

Will the 80HE eventually get a nice aluminum case as well?

[@amshermansen]

Zinc alloy - on launch.

[@ZAIBYR]

@@amshermansen is that an option like the Alumaze in terms of shape and quality? Or just the basic stock shell it ships with?

[@Spectrulight]

​@@amshermansenincluded?

[@amshermansen]

It's an option. More details on colours and all that in coming weeks.

[@ZAIBYR]

@@amshermansen Awesome! Thank you

[@yhiz4757]

Could you improve the switches? Lekker switches are insanely difficult to make sound good and have a lot of switch wobble which imo is unacceptable for a £180 keyboard

[@Wooting]

I hear you and agree this can be better. We're rolling out v2s with tighter tolerances first, 80HE will have them. We will see to have more switch options at checkout from Gateron for example. Meanwhile, we're cooking.

[@Spectrulight]

​@@Wootingwooting be cooking 🔥🔥👨‍🍳🥧🍲

[@hypepro1x248]

Is the performance gonna be the exact same as the 60he ?

[@Spectrulight]

Better

[@Impact035]

Goats!!! What about a wooting mouse??

[@desmonddes2459]

Sound test

[@Vexcenot]

why are you outside?

[@Wooting]

Why not. Calder is still on the move and has no tidy inside environment for filming.

[@tonynguyen4918]

Make it Wireless or I will buy the Keychron Q1 HE

[@Maximus_9363]

is there the posibility of a white case?? it would be grate