Wooting One analog keyboard review (Adomax Flaretech B)

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Chyrosran22

Chyrosran22

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@MobCat_
@MobCat_ 6 жыл бұрын
As a motorcyclist I find 16:00 to 16:15 very disturbing and wasn't really paying attention to what you were saying...
@Chyrosran22
@Chyrosran22 6 жыл бұрын
Hahaha, I was wondering if anyone would notice it! xD
@zshredclh10
@zshredclh10 6 жыл бұрын
MobCat Same dude
@user-74652
@user-74652 5 жыл бұрын
My guilty pleasure in GTA 4 and 5 is doing this to any motorcyclist I see. I am very sorry. I don't do it in real life, I swear.
@LGLFanTeam12
@LGLFanTeam12 5 жыл бұрын
But anyways that's fun to do in game tbh, especially when i got bored, nothing to work on, then do this instead. Relax, it's just a game..
@yiepie9822
@yiepie9822 4 жыл бұрын
@@LGLFanTeam12 he is relaxing he is clearly joking because like you said... it is a game
@rodrigomatos2465
@rodrigomatos2465 6 жыл бұрын
Definitely wasn't expecting that one 1:24
@Architector_4
@Architector_4 6 жыл бұрын
THEEES, INPUT DEVICE, IS, UNACCEPTABLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE*thud*EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!
@travisspannagel4879
@travisspannagel4879 6 жыл бұрын
lmao I was so confused at the time
@Pehmokettu
@Pehmokettu 6 жыл бұрын
I guess we can't ask him opinions about good game controllers after that. :D I use both controller and keyboard, it really depends of a game which feels better.
@kilak9193
@kilak9193 6 жыл бұрын
Agree
@Jarx246
@Jarx246 6 жыл бұрын
(lemongrab intensifies)
@Just_Add_Coffee
@Just_Add_Coffee 6 жыл бұрын
I'm not much of a gamer, but analog switches would seem very nifty for other uses, e.g., pressing A all the way down sends CTRL + A, Page Down all the way down sends END, thus allowing the actual END key to be reassigned elsewhere, etc. I'm grateful that there are people nowadays pushing the boundaries of what's possible with keyboards. Thanks again Chyrosran22!
@idklike3210
@idklike3210 5 жыл бұрын
That would need switches with more travel distance imo. But there could be a possible solution. PS: this could work out with some tweaking of the settings and the clicky switches
@lugi1
@lugi1 6 жыл бұрын
4:34 It's pretty sad that nowadays even the most expensive "gaming" keyboards have laser ablated ABS caps, if Chinese can make decent doubleshot/dyesub PBT caps for cheap, why can't such caps be used in premium board? Overall, this keyboard is still more interesting than a dozen of overpriced Cherry MX boards with full RGB.
@Wooting
@Wooting 6 жыл бұрын
I can answer that issue. Backlight + legends issue. Making the molds for double-shot keycaps is very expensive, then the Chinese manufacturers that own one and make them have extremely ugly "gamery" or fat legends. The option for backlight pbt double shot is very very limited. If the keyboard has backlight, lazer or dyesub isn't going to help. I would of loved to have doubleshot PBT keycaps but not at the cost of terrible design. Then rather lower down the price so you have more budget to buy a decent set :)
@ManWithBeard1990
@ManWithBeard1990 6 жыл бұрын
True. Unfortunately it's hard to find a set of caps with a decent font.
@lugi1
@lugi1 6 жыл бұрын
Oh, thank you for the response, I (and maybe a few people also) wish you made someday a version (maybe slightly cheaper?) with PBT caps but without backlighting (some people don't use this feature anyway), because this keyboard seems to be freakin' nice.
@LevelUpAndFly
@LevelUpAndFly 6 жыл бұрын
Could we have a tactile switch ? And yes i know there's the clicky55 blue switch I don't want the clicky feedback
@spoonybard64
@spoonybard64 6 жыл бұрын
I'd be all for that option. Coolermaster already did the exact same thing for their masterkey series. Their PBT caps were quite decent (but also pad printed...)
@samdeur
@samdeur 6 жыл бұрын
i like the effort Wooting put in to this board. They even went as far as to drop by my house to have a nice sparing session on keyboard design likes dislikes irritations in mechanical keyboard world. That's how involved Wooting is.. try to find that level of commitment from the big brands. Time & Time again i have noticed that small businesses companies that are managed by families generational companies are on a different level when it comes to commitment to quality and support. I really hope Wooting follows the same practices..Everything lies in the details everyone can use a flaretech switch. But Wooting's commitment with the software development and product R&D should tell you all you need to know .. To bad i'm not a gamer so it's not really a keyboard for me.. So greetings From The Netherlands Den Haag..
@succathiccdicc5935
@succathiccdicc5935 6 жыл бұрын
Nice humble brag.
@samdeur
@samdeur 6 жыл бұрын
don't know if it's a brag.. rather a statement of fact.. and the reason i stopped buying regular keyboards.. i much rather assemble my own boards knowing what i get.. just got the tada68 in from kbdfans.. that's considered an entry level board in the community .. even that is miles better then any mass produced keyboard.. Comparing this with the KBDFANS 8X puts all these keyboards to shame..
@succathiccdicc5935
@succathiccdicc5935 6 жыл бұрын
TuxKey why do you... Use so many... Ellipses...
@samdeur
@samdeur 6 жыл бұрын
i spend a great deal of my time behind a keyboard. so i like to change it up and have different experience..and it's lot of fun building programming your own keyboard way more fun.
@definitelyscrewed2295
@definitelyscrewed2295 6 жыл бұрын
"One might even go as far as to speculate that it was made by an actual human being" Idk why that made me laugh really hard
@moonbladem
@moonbladem 4 жыл бұрын
His humor makes me laugh out loud at my computer. When that happens, and if she's around, my dog looks at me quizzically, wondering if I've fijnally lost my mind.
@MrTheil
@MrTheil 6 жыл бұрын
1:24 That Lemongrab reference was great lmao
@Chyrosran22
@Chyrosran22 6 жыл бұрын
I was wondering how many people would get the reference xD .
@22Sangre
@22Sangre 6 жыл бұрын
Steam controller is another device that work great with games that support simultaneous mouse and keyboard inputs. Apparently even Valve cant convince game devs to implement that support.
@TuxedoCruise
@TuxedoCruise 6 жыл бұрын
Rom Hook It's less about Valve convincing developers to support the Steam Controller, and more that the Steam application simulates keyboard and mouse input on the Steam Controller. That's the actual reason why the Steam Controller supports simultaneous mouse and keyboard inputs.
@idglet9565
@idglet9565 4 жыл бұрын
@@TuxedoCruiseIt's such a shame that devs couldn't be arsed to figure out how the controller worked and made all of their control schemes a bunch of half-baked traditional equivalents to what they were using on consoles rather than taking advantage of the Steam controller's ergonomic potential. Massively underrated.
@0LoneTech
@0LoneTech 6 жыл бұрын
8:54 - high praise indeed, key feel "bang on" and "would have made it into my top 5 for sure". The Wooting guys must be pleased (:
@Chyrosran22
@Chyrosran22 6 жыл бұрын
Contactless sensing is really good! :D
@IIIJFRIII
@IIIJFRIII 6 жыл бұрын
Nice review man, thanks a lot. The older I get the more I want a computer that looks like it came from the 80-90 more and more, same goes for keyboards. I miss the stock keyboards the use to come with computers, the nice beige, non flashy, plain keyboard. When I see the keyboard your reviews is a old one I get so happy.
@silasmayes7954
@silasmayes7954 6 жыл бұрын
I just want for for the smooth feel and adjustable actuation point!
@Chyrosran22
@Chyrosran22 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, even just apart from the analog features it's a very nice keyboard :) .
@Centttttt60
@Centttttt60 5 жыл бұрын
2:36 You do know that the best driving/racing simulations have been made for PC and are commonly played with specialized peripherals like steering wheels, a set of pedals and often also a shifter and handbrake ...
@kolvis6626
@kolvis6626 4 жыл бұрын
He probably doesn't know, you have to realize that's a pretty niche community (unfortunately).
@Iron4TrollPatrol
@Iron4TrollPatrol 4 жыл бұрын
and you in turn know most people dont have all that bullshit
@RB-mm7ce
@RB-mm7ce 4 жыл бұрын
COMMONLY XD
@thelastdiddler3618
@thelastdiddler3618 5 жыл бұрын
Finally a reviewer who is thorough, good shit!
@thromboid
@thromboid 6 жыл бұрын
Ooh, could be great for music things too...
@Supertimegamingify
@Supertimegamingify 3 жыл бұрын
I was wondering about that, it has pressure sensitivity but not velocity.
@moonbladem
@moonbladem 4 жыл бұрын
Your explanation of the analog feature of the Wooting One was very thorough and clear. I've watched other video reviews regarding the Wooting One and yours is the best by way of explaining how it's different and that's very much appreciated.
@illitero
@illitero 6 жыл бұрын
While I can't say that I have any particular interest in ever owning this or other optical boards, I'm genuinely happy about how enthusiastic you are about it. Not only is it a good indicator of the quality and various utilities offered, but it serves to put its existence in a good light for those that would watch this video. Hype and marketing seem to be the only truths in how people choose a product, and it's fucking sickening. So thanks for being nice and not not-nice about it :D haha
@Chyrosran22
@Chyrosran22 6 жыл бұрын
I always try to find both the good and bad in any keyboard. Nothing is perfect, and nothing is COMPLETELY devoid of positives. Except Smith-Corona leaf spring boards. Those are 100% terrible.
@tommo4559
@tommo4559 6 жыл бұрын
ooh, 3kliks did a review of this and used it for CSGO. Interesting stuff
@xander1052
@xander1052 6 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this review for a while, the technology is really interesting for me.
@SoundShunter72
@SoundShunter72 6 жыл бұрын
I'm actually going to buy this. Holy shit.
@ocboomer
@ocboomer 6 жыл бұрын
16:00 This is the highest level of gameplay of GTA V I've ever seen on youtube. I found it way more hilarious than I should have probably.
@DavidHeyManS
@DavidHeyManS 6 жыл бұрын
Lol this is one of the funniest and best review video that I’ve seen! Good job man!
@evanjrowley
@evanjrowley 6 жыл бұрын
Should look into perfecting the analog mode's ability to emulate mouse cursor acceleration. Would satisfy a lot of typists and console junkies thay don't really care about having a dedicated mouse.
@ReeceConrad
@ReeceConrad 6 жыл бұрын
I agree. I already use autohotkey for mouse input on my model M. It would be great to have more precise movements through analog presses
@danieljennagrouse
@danieljennagrouse 6 жыл бұрын
Do the switches use standard MX style springs? I like the idea of the keyboard but MX Reds are way too light for me (I'm currently typing on BOX Navies). Being able to swap the springs would solve that issue.
@A1Plooplord
@A1Plooplord 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah the switches have standard MX stems and springs. There's also black switches coming later this year which are linear with 85cN if you don't mind waiting.
@XalphYT
@XalphYT 6 жыл бұрын
The Wooting YT account even has a video on how to disassemble a switch to swap out the spring. So yes, it is not only supported but company official.
@markusuusitalo9846
@markusuusitalo9846 5 жыл бұрын
@@XalphYT I love this company
@nofreenamestoreg
@nofreenamestoreg 6 жыл бұрын
Great Review, appreciated :) I really like the second action on full press, hopefully someday I would test it out for myself.
@MrHazardousMC
@MrHazardousMC 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this review, I have evaluated that it's not worth my money based on your VERY informative video. Excellent work!
@Hostile_Design
@Hostile_Design 5 жыл бұрын
Iv'e already spammed a million noob questions spread around your video library but I ultimately bought this keyboard based on this video and your recommendation and I'm really happy with it so far, thanks for all the in depth nerdy info :). The software has some key features missing but the team is really welcoming and easily available through their Discord and they already plan to add all I asked for. I went for the clicky switches and they are real nice, a tad lighter than what I'm used to maybe but real crisp and sound pleasant.
@HexDSL
@HexDSL 6 жыл бұрын
anyone know how well this works with linux?
@FindecanorNotGmail
@FindecanorNotGmail 6 жыл бұрын
It uses standard protocols, so input works ... but almost no settings are on the keyboard itself. You can't even set the ugly backlighting to be permanently off! It requires Wootility, which is x86-64 only. They were slow to release the Linux version so I haven't bothered to test it yet. Hopefully someone who has will fill in below.
@0LoneTech
@0LoneTech 6 жыл бұрын
It works perfectly well, and the Wootility is built with a Chromium derived framework that is also available for Linux; I haven't tested that personally yet. I've experimentally used its auxiliary fully analog reports, which IIRC provides 32 key rollover or so, but there's no normal driver for that. With that mode it's even more flexible than the gamepad and DKS modes, as you could implement any profile in software.
@Benrob0329
@Benrob0329 6 жыл бұрын
Wootility has a Linux beta and is planned to be open sourced.
@HexDSL
@HexDSL 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info
@stephenmaher4690
@stephenmaher4690 5 жыл бұрын
Best in slot linear switches, that's why I bought mine. I've had it for about 6 months now and have yet to delve heavily into the analog capabilities heavily, I've only given them a cursory glance; I actually use a controller in games like RL. These are just far and away the best linear switches you can buy new. I probably will look into the analog stuff more eventually, as it is interesting. But if you are looking for a beast of an all-rounder keyboard with amazing linears, and you have the money, Wooting has my recommendation for whatever it's worth.
@Benrob0329
@Benrob0329 6 жыл бұрын
Oh shit, Wootility is cross-platform and planned to be open sourced soon. 10/10 need to buy this board.
@KindOldRaven
@KindOldRaven 4 жыл бұрын
Apparently they're working on Hall-Effect switches to try and perfect this concept, I've seen a few updates on their new project. You can think of these guys what you will but... they sure are dedicated! And at least their boards aren't insanely expensive here...
@skybladebloodheart4247
@skybladebloodheart4247 5 жыл бұрын
thank goodness this man has good taste, that can be hard to find these days.
@questionmarkquestionmarkques
@questionmarkquestionmarkques 5 жыл бұрын
Ikr, every other reviewer i know doesnt mention any flaws about the thing theyre reviewing or if its shit value(like most logitech,razer, etc reviews)
@aerton091
@aerton091 6 жыл бұрын
Seriously, I cannot understand why analog keyboards aren't ' a thing ' exactly. Even though I like controllers as well, Kb & Ms were always my number one option no matter the game. Personally I've never had problems adjusting to any driving game on PC, I wasn't even adjusting honestly, it all comes naturally, but playing any kind of shooter on consoles, with auto aim off, well, it can be tricky to say at least. I was hugely disappointed when I first heard Sony was dropping their analog face buttons due to the lack of interest in implementing such a fine feature by developers on Playstation 4. Seriously, when done and implemented correctly, analog keys can really amplify your gaming experience and bring tons of fine nuances to it. I'm kinda happy to see that it sparks some interest among the manufacturers finally.
@rigglestad8479
@rigglestad8479 6 жыл бұрын
Blur is a great game, no one knows about it lol.
@Chyrosran22
@Chyrosran22 6 жыл бұрын
I know, such a shame!
@Pumpkin-Link
@Pumpkin-Link 6 жыл бұрын
you can still play Blur online on PS3, there is a huge community still playing there
@Lead_Foot
@Lead_Foot 4 жыл бұрын
We've been playing it every time we have a lan party
@PreciousAlpschindler
@PreciousAlpschindler 3 жыл бұрын
That's because people addicted to Need For Speed and Forza
@ringocrafter03
@ringocrafter03 5 жыл бұрын
Your voice sounds kinda like the narrator in the Stanley Parable 😂 this video is amazing. Just subscribed!
@Grandwigg
@Grandwigg 5 жыл бұрын
What's funny is i was just watching a Stanley parable video in Thinknoodles' channel.
@XalphYT
@XalphYT 6 жыл бұрын
A Wooting One review? Yippee!
@happilicious
@happilicious 6 жыл бұрын
You have a really good voice, it's so soothing to listen to :)
@nikolai905
@nikolai905 6 жыл бұрын
Amazing review! All the information has been very helpful, I think I'm going to buy this keyboard seems like the best.
@RozmarynPL
@RozmarynPL 6 жыл бұрын
Wutang keyboard
@Thatkidwithacamera00
@Thatkidwithacamera00 5 жыл бұрын
Keycaps Rule Everything Around Me
@gyozakeynsianism
@gyozakeynsianism 3 жыл бұрын
Wooting Clan ain't nothing to fuck with.
@aetvrna
@aetvrna 3 жыл бұрын
wuhan keyboadd
@seritools
@seritools 6 жыл бұрын
The massive input delay in NFS Most Wanted is due to a horribly implemented VSync. Forcing VSync off fixes the input lag for the most part, even when using the keyboard.
@Chyrosran22
@Chyrosran22 6 жыл бұрын
Interesting! I'll have to try that out sometime.
@seritools
@seritools 6 жыл бұрын
Thats the config option for it :) pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Need_for_Speed:_Most_Wanted_(2012)#Vertical_sync_.28Vsync.29
@aidandunworth765
@aidandunworth765 6 жыл бұрын
If you ever get to test the tactile version of the flare tech switches I'd be very interested in a short review
@nicksonyap
@nicksonyap 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome, mild humour yet serious review :D
@iBEikki
@iBEikki 6 жыл бұрын
1:24 I lost my shit XD
@zhnigo
@zhnigo 3 жыл бұрын
A lot of the points brought up here about games not correctly picking up simultaneous gamepad and mouse input are also true for the steam controller, which was a very promising piece of hardware, as well as for using the PS4 controller's gyro aim.
@thecroutoncave1924
@thecroutoncave1924 6 жыл бұрын
What if I said I'd ship you an Alps Brown equipped Magnavox Video Writer with close to new old stock switches if you played CS:GO for 5hrs more?
@Chyrosran22
@Chyrosran22 6 жыл бұрын
That's a pretty tough choice ;p .
@thecroutoncave1924
@thecroutoncave1924 6 жыл бұрын
Chyrosran22, I am serious. I will ship the board if you give me before and after in hrs. With recordings Sub HD allowed.
@Chyrosran22
@Chyrosran22 6 жыл бұрын
That's really very kind of you, but only weeks ago did I get a virtually NOS one myself xD .
@thecroutoncave1924
@thecroutoncave1924 6 жыл бұрын
Chyrosran22, I look foward to that review.
@whossoap355
@whossoap355 6 жыл бұрын
I'd like to know your opinion on the reliabilities of the different switches under heavy extended abuse like being used by rhythm games that smashes certain keys repeatedly since the estimation of the manufacturer doesn't cover that aspect
@Chyrosran22
@Chyrosran22 6 жыл бұрын
Who's Soap According to the manufacturer, after 100 million keypresses, none of the tests showed any broken parts. Considering they are contactless, they should stand up to heavy abuse extremely well.
@mcrode
@mcrode 6 жыл бұрын
other perks which makes this gem even more of a masterpiece: actually the servicing and modding is relatively easy and it is encouraged by the folks at wooting. if you remove all the keycaps and the switches bam you'll find the screws. Undo them and the top lid can be popped out from its frame. It's not glued in there but still a very tight fit. If you extract the pcb you'll find that the bottom part is mostly just hollow compartments so you can fill it up with for example hot glue to make it more stable and quiter. second: apart from the keyboard / xinput / directinput devices it has a 4th more generic HID device which has a beatiful simple report format: for each key you can get a pair of bytes where first byte is the actual keycode and the second is the analogue pressure (0-255) regardless which mode you're inside. this means you can even use it in way more extensively than a joystick or gamepad, for instance I built a midi keyboard emulator with it with velocity and aftertouch support. this is a seriously good product and the team behind it are super helpful on discord.
@Wooting
@Wooting 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this. I'm very interested to know more about the midi keyboard emulator. Could you reach out to Calder on Discord?
@mcrode
@mcrode 6 жыл бұрын
Wooting it's just a doodle in a rapid development/prototyping tool called vvvv. I could rewrite it in C# easily though if I'll find time for it to make it more redistributable. Sure I can contact Calder.
@Wooting
@Wooting 6 жыл бұрын
Not too concerned about how well the implementation is. More importantly you have affinity with MIDI and made a working sample. Jeroen can learn from your experience and perhaps speed up getting a native MIDI controller test going. We're generally very excited and open to work together with others, looking forward to the contact!
@secretjuice1183
@secretjuice1183 5 жыл бұрын
I have been looking at this for about a year now, I have a Corsair K70 Cherry MX brown, I regret it and I want a TKL RGB with clicky switches and a metal top plate so I can rage all I want, my K70 feels terrible on the W A S D keys after raging and strafing on it. My d button does a double click or none at all so my question was have you tried the Wooting One with Adomax Clicky switches and if so are they good? Because in Sweden there are very little TKL metal top plate clicky switch keyboards and this is the one I have been interested in for so long, so I’m just looking for the perfect keyboard to pair up with the PC I’m getting this summer.
@mitchdezylva8082
@mitchdezylva8082 4 жыл бұрын
Wooting is coming out with a Hall Effect Variant of the Wooting Two, which might be worth a further checkout
@BrianMcKee
@BrianMcKee 5 жыл бұрын
Managed to grab this openbox for 90 bucks. Can't wait! The speed of the keyboard for fast reactions is what I'm really interested in.
@convexcornet2169
@convexcornet2169 5 жыл бұрын
I'm glad someone is trying to implement this. I've had this idea for years. I'll buy one when all gamepad games (any gamepad), and simultaneous gamepad and mouse are supported, I'd like all games to be supported, but I don't know if that is possible.
@Jesse__H
@Jesse__H 6 жыл бұрын
The left stick on a controller is better for moving around in-game than WASD. The pesants don't have much, but they have that.
@themadoneplays7842
@themadoneplays7842 6 жыл бұрын
Well as a long term console gamer (not peasant) I do think controllers have their place. Sure the mouse and keyboard are far superior in many respects but I cannot see it for certain games and certain game genres. Platformers, fighting games, racing games and some action games in my opinion do better on a controller. Especially platfomers, fighting games and racing games, i have tried M&K for them but i really cant do it. The controller is far better in my mind. From platforming accruracy in games like Sonic and Mario To pulling off special moves in street fighter To making turns in Drift 2 and Project cars.... sorry all of those feel so sloppy on a keyboard and mouse to me.
@Chyrosran22
@Chyrosran22 6 жыл бұрын
Interesting you should say that. Fighting games in particular are a great example of where I WOULD use a keyboard. Because you can use all your fingers at the same time, you can hit keys MUCH faster in succession, and special moves can be executed more unambiguously with four-directional input (e.g. F,D,F is a precise, three-button move, not a zone of movements on a controller). For platformers I'm a bit on the fence. Racing games are probably much better with a controller, but I still play a lot better with keyboard, just because I'm so used to them and not used to controllers xD .
@themadoneplays7842
@themadoneplays7842 6 жыл бұрын
It depends, for Mortal Kombat Keyboard is fine actually Street fighter? Not so much in my opinion. Performing a Hadoken is really tough to do on a Keyboard for me, I am so adept at the game pad for that though. Of course mouse and keyboard and gamepad do poorly at the one true input for fighting games... the arcade stick :D If they were not so expensive for a really good one i would so totally own one
@Robertkopp84
@Robertkopp84 6 жыл бұрын
I hope they make a full size with removable numpad like bloody.
@questionmarkquestionmarkques
@questionmarkquestionmarkques 5 жыл бұрын
No removable numpad but still got a full size
@AzureFlash
@AzureFlash 6 жыл бұрын
Experimental peripherals for PC are super fun. 3D mice, analog keyboards, Steam Controller, computer vision, VR, Wacom tablets with pressure and angle sensing, teledildonics... the possibilities are endless!
@WayneKerr2222
@WayneKerr2222 4 жыл бұрын
13:24 it's probably because the macro pad is a simple a+a input,while the wooting is a continuous a, then a+a, maybe because you can't normally press a+a while already pressing a, it's probably something unreal tournament just wasn't coded to recognize 14:51 you can see the controls in the bottom right corner flickering between keyboard and controller, how it's able to do that without the game freaking out is interesting
@menuhin
@menuhin 6 жыл бұрын
The thumbnail looks like a modern cliché design keyboard, but it is this optical analogue keyboard! Have been waiting for its news for more than a year now. I don't like floating key design and TKL is still a bit big, but this one seems to pack lots of features. How about using it as a MIDI piano input device? I am sold.
@bland9876
@bland9876 6 жыл бұрын
that double press thing reminds me of the steam controller being able to use the same trigger for both aiming and shooting in fps games is amazing and i can still fire from the hip by pressing it fast enough
@SamChaneyProductions
@SamChaneyProductions 4 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty excited for analog switches like this to rise in popularity. Hopefully soon we'll be able to do custom builds from scratch with all analog switches.
@dracoflame3921
@dracoflame3921 5 жыл бұрын
I have a Razer chroma that just started acting up (dead keys) it's the only mechanical keyboard brand I've ever known. And now I feel like I've been shown the light to keyboard heaven. Seriously this video/keyboard made me nerdgasim!
@RedXLilAznBoi
@RedXLilAznBoi 5 жыл бұрын
check out apex pro or apex 7
@RedXLilAznBoi
@RedXLilAznBoi 5 жыл бұрын
Vox3l-Gl1tch i can say the same about any other brand.
@RedXLilAznBoi
@RedXLilAznBoi 5 жыл бұрын
@Vox3l-Gl1tch uh, yes? Razer is shit and people buy those too. People got complains with this keyboard too. LOOK IT UP!
@yusuf-lol2997
@yusuf-lol2997 5 жыл бұрын
can you do a test with the keyboard Keyz rubidium from the G lab
@MartinKincl1993
@MartinKincl1993 6 жыл бұрын
Cool. You think you could get your hands on the clicky switch? I wonder how smooth that one is. Also, can you make it so that bottoming out a key sends ONLY whatever you set that analog value to? Or does it have to send a signal for every analog value you cross on the way, no matter how fast? Imagine typing with keys that send either normal signal (no click) or a macro with a modifier (click).
@Chyrosran22
@Chyrosran22 6 жыл бұрын
I have a few clicky switches. They are very smooth, though that should be less of a consideration with clicky switches. I showed them in my Teardown video. The DKS feature sends one pre-programmed signal at a specific actuation point and another signal at another point.
@MartinKincl1993
@MartinKincl1993 6 жыл бұрын
Oh, I must have missed that video. Thanks, I'll go watch it. I beg to differ when it comes to the importance of smoothness with clicky switches. It's one of the reasons why I've been avoiding Cherry MX Blues.
@yokakeshinowakane
@yokakeshinowakane 6 жыл бұрын
highlight of the Video: 10:14 hahahaha XD
@yokakeshinowakane
@yokakeshinowakane 6 жыл бұрын
fuck it, i'm subscribing..
@yeahok9165
@yeahok9165 4 жыл бұрын
You missed 1:24
@darkholyPL
@darkholyPL 6 жыл бұрын
A what now? BTW How would you compare the key feel and smoothness to XMIT Hall Effect linear board?
@Chyrosran22
@Chyrosran22 6 жыл бұрын
Both are extremely smooth, but the Flaretech switches are definitely smoother at the moment. Both are also clip-in, and extremely reliable.
@JessicaFEREM
@JessicaFEREM 4 жыл бұрын
I think that they should make the mouse plug into the keyboard to act as the RT to solve the problem with choosing between
@fetB
@fetB 6 жыл бұрын
Maybe i've missed it, but in digital mode, you can still assign those macros?
@Chyrosran22
@Chyrosran22 6 жыл бұрын
No, this is limited to analog mode. It should be noted that unless you disable digital input, the keyboard works like a normal keyboard in analog mode as well.
@kaktotak8267
@kaktotak8267 5 жыл бұрын
As soon as you started talking about double key strokes, I thought of UT dashes, lol. Shame they didn't work. I guess it has something to do with how the game processes key press and release events. It may be because the halfway A isn't released when A+A is sent on the bottom. I'm not really sure what is the exact series of events the driver is sending and what form the game is receiving them in. One test you could try to do is to bind, say, B as the halfway keystroke and A+A as the bottom keystroke and see how that behaves.
@thecount25
@thecount25 6 жыл бұрын
Tell wooting they should simulate an analog stick with the mouse input in their driver that should resolve most of the issues.
@artman40
@artman40 6 жыл бұрын
Hopefully full-sized version, when coming out, has "numpad to modifier keys" feature.
@bs5740
@bs5740 3 жыл бұрын
The whole time I watched this I was pretty sure it would be insanely priced. But $150 is less than most custom build kits and they barely have more features than this. Like you said the adjustable actuation point alone is a huge feature worth thrt price. For a solidly built quality tested board this is an absolute steal. I hope their software allows something similar to zsa moonlander for defining various keystroke customization to take advantage of analog feature in general usage as a programmable keyboard.
@amateurwizard7002
@amateurwizard7002 6 жыл бұрын
1:24 hahaha 😁 is that your 'Lemongrab' impression?
@Chyrosran22
@Chyrosran22 6 жыл бұрын
Yes xD .
@amateurwizard7002
@amateurwizard7002 6 жыл бұрын
It's *click*👌 *click*👌😂. Great video btw very informative.
@OverHaze
@OverHaze 4 жыл бұрын
You really should do a review of the clicky switches. They have almost no tactility but man they sound good.
@Donbros
@Donbros 6 жыл бұрын
Your reaction to cs go :DDDDDDDD XD BTW It is quite a situation... About this keyboard comtability ... Many indie games or startups won't allow this feature cause it is basically waste of time for such niche product, but yeah it would be nice that at least huge companies would allow this feature.
@Chokkan
@Chokkan 6 жыл бұрын
I imagine this was a really hard keyboard to review. This looks like it would be great in certain games.
@Chyrosran22
@Chyrosran22 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, this took bleeding ages xD . Was worth it though!
@joeltoves5788
@joeltoves5788 6 жыл бұрын
I wonder if this will be good on osu!
@EjayT06
@EjayT06 4 жыл бұрын
1:23 did you really just quote Lemongrab xD
@silverzdk
@silverzdk 6 жыл бұрын
The reason why the steam controller list names seige is because when using a steam controller you only use the mouse and gamepad not the buttons on the mouse. Looking around in games with a steam controller is sometimes a lot easier if bound to the mouse and allows for cool things like binding it to the gyro :)
@Vintodrimmer
@Vintodrimmer 6 жыл бұрын
Great review. I really wish there was a way to "wire" one yourself, so you could make something like "Plank" with them. Are the settings stored in the on-board memory, or do you have to actually have the configuration app open? The latter would be pretty bad for Linux/Mac/etc. compatibility.
@Chyrosran22
@Chyrosran22 6 жыл бұрын
Nope, you don't need to have the app open at all, it's saved to the keyboard, thankfully.
@Vintodrimmer
@Vintodrimmer 6 жыл бұрын
Chyrosran22 that's awesome, thanks.
@rayz0rxxx
@rayz0rxxx 6 жыл бұрын
yo i remember playing blur with my friend that doesnt really like to play games except fifa every night in our dorm lol
@ringsystemmusic
@ringsystemmusic 5 жыл бұрын
Re: macros: did you try binding the UT macro for dash to A up wait 0.05 a down wait 0.05 a up? You were probably accidentally double-registering A
@nasanierulastname2997
@nasanierulastname2997 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if you could review that wild Gamecube controller that had a keyboard in it. Apparently it was intended for use with Phantasy Star Online.
@owlstead
@owlstead 4 жыл бұрын
The Wooting One seems to be less available nowadays - even the Wooting store itself doesn't have it at the moment - but fortunately Informatique (Dutch IT store) seems to have them still. Which means I'm typing this on a brand new one with ultra-smooth red switches. Yay :) Hopefully they are able to restock.
@calvinreeder7580
@calvinreeder7580 6 жыл бұрын
I'm building my first real gaming PC soon, and I'm looking around for a keyboard for it (I'm on a budget, so I really just want one keyboard). Do you think this is a good choice for me? I was going to go with a Ace Pad Tech Hall Effect keyboard, but this video's made me wonder. I'm slightly worried that it'll require a ton of fidgeting with all my games and stuff, and I'll have to tweak settings every time I go to play a different game. Is that accurate? If I want to turn off the gamepad/Xbox/mouse input that comes from the keyboard, can I, and just make it a plain old digital keyboard, or is there no setting for that?
@Wooting
@Wooting 6 жыл бұрын
You can turn off all the controller stuff in the general settings. It can always work like a generic ol' keyboard.
@calvinreeder7580
@calvinreeder7580 6 жыл бұрын
Wooting Oh really? Awesome! I don't see any reason you pick the Hall Effect keyboard over this, then. Thanks!
@smika710
@smika710 4 жыл бұрын
the new rosewill neon k91, which is unreviewed has the 3 channel thing for the cable
@salmorreale7900
@salmorreale7900 6 жыл бұрын
I share your enthusiasm for the the modern console controller, I use a fight stick controller whenever I can.
@sunnehz5517
@sunnehz5517 5 жыл бұрын
Your voice makes me happy for some reason
@Jorozzzzz
@Jorozzzzz 6 жыл бұрын
This removable switch (without soldering) feature is one of the best things in a mechanical keyboard for me. Anyone knows any cheaper mechanical keyboards with this feature?
@giannistaraz2749
@giannistaraz2749 6 жыл бұрын
redragon k557
@platty9237
@platty9237 5 жыл бұрын
The mass drop alt and ctrls are hot swap. I noticed one assembly on Banggood that is hot swappable for about 55 bucks if I remember, but it’s just the assembly without switches or caps.
@EnterpriseKnight
@EnterpriseKnight 5 жыл бұрын
So, should I buy this instead of a K95 from Corsair? They cost about the same, but the difference mainly for me, is that eventually I have to buy a keycap set for my country since Wooting only offers UK and German layouts for ISO.
5 жыл бұрын
can you use those switches in other brand keyboards? Would love to have this flaretech black switches on the Keychron K6. Hopefully it retains the "analog" ability if possible to install on other optical keyboards
@monstertugg7803
@monstertugg7803 6 жыл бұрын
why do you hate cs:go? because of the state that it's in now, or did you dislike it from the beginning? just curious, your vids are dank.
@Architector_4
@Architector_4 6 жыл бұрын
For the analysis of how well it works in CS:GO, you can check this video out: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z4ixemCca7Z3hrM Also this same video's description features a big list of games that work and don't work with this keyboard(and not just combined inputs in general), while also listing if it works 100% or if there are problems. And yes, it does mention Rainbow Six Siege's problem, as well as a way to work around it.
@MrJAM-np7go
@MrJAM-np7go 6 жыл бұрын
I burrowed some time for review, what I feel was doped cherry. But I still prefer alps unless it has more flaws than optoelectric switch, because key feel is far tastier than cherry type in all categories; linear, clicky, tactile.
@BrightSpark
@BrightSpark 3 жыл бұрын
03:55 Erm... clicky analogue keys? Now I need to know how that works - not from a technical standpoint, but from a handling one. From the top of my head, I can only think of two options: Either the analogue range exists only *above* the click - similiar to the GameCube's triggers - or the analogue nature only reveals itself *after* the click, so it's less how far you press it down, and more how hard you press it. That being said, I know *nothing* about analogue keys, so I am talking entirely out of my arse here.
@docmark75
@docmark75 6 жыл бұрын
The Fujitsu leaf spring keyboard featured at 8:23 , does anyone know what model it is, and how I can get one?
@Chyrosran22
@Chyrosran22 5 жыл бұрын
MBC-885
@theultimateweeb4276
@theultimateweeb4276 5 жыл бұрын
Can tou get around the gamepad limitatin by somehow making the computer think that the mouse inputs are actually coming from the gamepad, instead of the mouse? Like have the keyboard driver capture the mouse inputs?
@XalphYT
@XalphYT 6 жыл бұрын
12:27 Could this double-keystroke feature be useful for touch typists, or do you always register both the light travel and then the heavy travel key presses?
@Chyrosran22
@Chyrosran22 6 жыл бұрын
You can define separate points in the travel at which both events occur. With the stock springs, and using the linear switches, it's very easy to bottom out when typing, though.
@uniwasamistake6334
@uniwasamistake6334 6 жыл бұрын
Cable routing slots might affect profit. Since complex molds wear out faster.
@Chyrosran22
@Chyrosran22 6 жыл бұрын
This is an interesting point, but I dare say a mould will not wear out prohibitively expensively on a mechanical-keyboard-budget keyboard with a few simple gulleys in it.
@El-ng7mb
@El-ng7mb 4 жыл бұрын
I dislike pc gaming and I enjoy controllers but I still enjoy watching your vids and gain insight from your reviews :D awesome content
@CobaltHex
@CobaltHex 6 жыл бұрын
topre should be able to sense analog differences (the new realforce rgb can configure actuation depth) however i dont think there is any software to support actual analog sensing
@Stealthsuit07
@Stealthsuit07 5 жыл бұрын
If you only use it as a linear keyboard with digital input and forget about the analog gamepad gimmick, will it be compatible with all games?
@zenithseeker7
@zenithseeker7 6 жыл бұрын
You could try disabling the keyboard and mouse part of the keyboard in device manager. That could help with some of the compatibility issues.
@Chyrosran22
@Chyrosran22 6 жыл бұрын
No, any compatibility issues really just stem from the game being incompatible with the types of input it's getting, not really from the devices interfering. It's a game-side thing, not a hardware-side one.
@gsilva220
@gsilva220 4 жыл бұрын
An idea for them: Put an USB port in it to take the mouse movement as the right analog stick of the controller part.
@ffmfg
@ffmfg 6 жыл бұрын
question: if I only want the keyboard with completely customizable actuation profiles etc. can I completely disable gamepad devices so problematic games wouldn't have multiple controller issues?
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