Wore Deceased Baby Around Her Neck, Tried Smuggling Body To London - The Story Of Caroline Beale

[@discobikerAndRosie]

That baby would've been 30 yrs old now. My daughter was born in 1994. We adopted her, receiving her when she was 5 days old. I think of her when I hear these stories. My daughter's birth mom hid her pregnancy but loved her enough to give her life. Her mother helped her find parents for the baby. Today, I'm a mom & a grandma. It's awesome. This poor family.

[@ColleenLytle-sq8tx]

@discobikerAndRosie I love hearing adoption stories, all of them. I gave my baby up for adoption in 1975 - not because I didn't want him, but because I loved him enough to give him the life I never had (Mom and Dad, a home, a family), but giving him up almost killed me. I drowned my pain in drugs and alcohol, until I decided he wasn't going to see a tombstone when he went to meet his birth Mother. We're very close today, he'll be 50, and (just like God promises/tenfold blessings) - today I'm a Grandma to two, have two Daughter In Laws (along with their families), and I'm a Great Grandma of 5. God gave me back tenfold. Best choice I ever made. Thank you for sharing your story. Evil Intention - I'm new to your channel, I like your narration, presentation, and that you answered questions about this tragedy. Thank you, I liked and subscribed. (I'm usually not this breathy🙄) One thing I noticed is that the visuals seem to go by so fast, they didn't have time to register... I think it would enhance your video if they went by a hair slower (they flipped by like the old time cartoon calendar pages 😁) My best.

[@discobikerAndRosie]

@ColleenLytle-sq8tx God bless you. The Lord knew you loved your child & He watched over you during the hard times. My daughter knows her birth mom & immediate family. I insisted on an open adoption. I wanted my baby to know where she came from. I'm so glad you have a big family now! TY for sharing your story! I know giving your son to someone else was very tough!

[@Horticarter41]

My brother was born in July of 94, but he was 10 weeks early, and he would have possibly been born closer to September if he was on time.

[@jswhosoever4533]

My daughter just turned 30 a couple weeks ago

[@charliekezza]

Oliva Anne 😢

[@heezypeasy8611]

I couldn't imagine being one of the airport staff involved that day. It's so sweet that they set up a memorial for the baby girl.

[@TheRetroWoman80]

Yes, that was quite heartwarming considering the circumstances.

[@marenski5327]

You have a really calm easy to listen to voice..No stupid music, straight to the point something I appreciate. 💫🇦🇺👌

[@romystumpy1197]

Exactly,and no cheesy stock photos

[@SunShinyDaysPlease]

There IS "music" in the background! I hate that. Maybe it stops, I'm only a few minutes in.

[@jerseygirl5771]

100% Straight to the point no BS! Great Story Teller just found you yesterday, thank you❤

[@carlaphilippi5295]

Its so monotone...hé could've easily use AI

[@JustieCrustie]

A good researcher too.

[@colleenschaffer1889]

Rest in peace sweet baby girl. I'm so sorry

[@dymond66]

I was a teacher in the Bronx in the 90’s and remember talking with my colleagues in the teachers lounge about this crazy story. Thanks for this channel. You have kept alive NYC stories that should not be forgotten.

[@kimthreadgold2755]

She should have been put in mental Hospital. Rykers Island. Is that the only prison in NY. Why didn't she get mental❤health treatment❤❤. ❤❤❤❤Sad story overall.❤ ❤The pain of delivering a baby in a tub must of been horrendous.❤❤

[@kimthreadgold2755]

I cannot believe this went to ❤trial❤. What she did is a result of her mental intability. Glad she went back to London. Her poor family lost all their retirement. Clearly she had some kind of mental breakdown. I have no opinion...too complicated.

[@kimthreadgold2755]

Where is Caroline today?

[@Bunny11344]

Did u know jho back then ?? U know cause she’s from the Bronx 😂

[@carlaashton3496]

I am 61 and have never commented on any story before but feel due to two experiences in my life I need to share.i had a young babysitter 17 who cocealed her pregnancy luckily she had the baby and all turned out well in the end but just giving birth on your own is so dangerous and traumatic when I talked to her after she said she was scared and ashamed she thought she had let her parents down by getting pregnant ,another' close friend of mine concealed her pregnancy and the first her whole family where aware was the day she gave birth.both these cases are obviously different to this case because both babies are fine healthy adults now,but I know these girls where very traumatised to coceal the birth.i feel this young woman was hugely mentally unstable and the fact she held on to her baby in the way she did proves it let's face it she could have dropped her bay just about anywhere before going to airport and leaving the country and nobody would have even known but she held on to it I don't believe for a minute any of this was planned action she was completely mentally unwell these things are far from black and white unfortunately ❤

[@ALA9E]

Her state of mind and fear is not easily understood when you are functioning normally and it’s easy to be horrified as we should. I myself have suffered severe depression that nearly killed me. The mind goes to strange places and her hearing and believing things that weren’t true can happen. A very tragic event all round.

[@WalksLikeAcat]

I totally agree. Pregnancy hormones are not a joke. Add in the grief and shame, yikes.

[@sedg83]

I always hate when these cases pop up on true crime channels, there is very little compassion in the comments section. It's so clearly a mental health phenomenon.

[@haridiankrauthahnalvarez4526]

This comment, a million times. Her need to cover it at the beginning for her dying friends sake sets the tone for this tragic story. Everything that comes after is traumas ,grief, What sound like perinatal depression and dissociation. Extreme,yes ,absolutely, but very obvious after having the facts. I feel for the baby that never got a chance....I feel even more for the woman who suffered through all this alone too though. Tragic for all involved.

[@TheShmoo123]

I agree, the things that lined up in Caroline’s life were truly heartbreaking, none of us know how this would have affected us.The poor baby payed the terrible price of her Mothers mental illness. I think that if she had just been a cold, callous murderer, she could have left the baby anywhere and no one would ever have known. A terrible situation for all concerned….the baby should be alive today, if only someone had noticed the events playing out.

[@Corungil]

She carried the baby full term. 9 months. She didn't tell anyone she Was pregnant. 9 months. U can call it mental illness all you like, you're just not apt to face reality. All of you, "a million" times.

[@donitakissick930]

Your channel is refreshing because every case you cover is a case I've never heard of.

[@powerfully_confident1739]

I feel you on that. Every single one is one I haven’t seen. When Jose drops a video, I zoom through everything I planned to complete. I shower, pop some popcorn for the hubby, and pour a glass of wine for me. Hubby’s so funny. He sits up in the bed and stares at me. He’s like yum, popcorn 🍿and wine?🍷 then belts out and another one. Then air beats the drums, lol.🥁 So I say, ha-ha, DJ Khalid. He says to me Jose dropped another video, huh? I'm not paying attention or thinking about what he’s yapping about because I’m trying to get comfy in bed to watch the video. So I say, unhuh! He starts dfl so hard and loud. I’m like, babe! Jeez, Louise, be quiet before you wake up the baby. He looks at me and says, you don’t get it? At this point, I’m a little annoyed and say, between shown teeth, get what, babeee?🤷🏾 Lmao! He looks at me with this look, talking about when I said and another one. You got it because you called me DJ Khalid. At that moment, it hit me that he said and another one and beat the invisible drum, lmao, because he was trying to be DJ Khalid. Hahahaha!😂😂🤣🤣 to make me laugh.😆😆 My husband:😐😒 I had to tell this story because my husband is so funny to me and adorable. Let’s just say I had the best laugh before watching the tragedy of little Olivia Ann’s murder. R.I.P. Baby Olivia.❤❤

[@marcella28able]

100%

[@lauracook8203]

A stiff letter from the Chancellor. Oh my, that would indeed have an American Judge trembling in fear. 😏

[@mapmanlxii1715]

Agree much more detailed and informative than Dateline NBC

[@dianemiller3682]

Usually I know where I stand on crime cases, but this one has me going back and forth. In my own family, 2 of my siblings had really wonderful news that they felt guilty telling me about because of my circumstances at the time. This made me feel horrible! Then I felt guilty because they felt guilty. Love, family, death, lifes circumstances aren't always cut and dried. So many lives involved.

[@nefthegoddess]

I had to read the title again when the notification popped up…😳 Jesus Christ this one left me speechless

[@user-wz4ch2oh2c]

Same my god!

[@ms.g-j8524]

Truly! I just clicked to see if this was a typo.... wearing a baby around ya neck?!?! WTH

[@lanagroves9480]

Me too

[@MeeMee-gz5vp]

Right, I did a double take myself

[@chellelaverdiere9834]

Me and all 😢

[@fkan3803]

I remember this story as a New Yorker no one had sympathy for her. Her parents had no sympathy for the baby, It was as though the child life did not matter. You are doing a very good job telling about these New York true crimes calmly.

[@MusicLeeSarah]

"Wore deceased baby around her neck" WHAT? what am I about to watch? Regardless, thank you for the upload, I just... I don't know if my mental health is ready to watch this.

[@ohwell94]

Same here Thank God I haven't eaten yet

[@dianeandrzejak2221]

Same, I might just have to stop when it starts getting to that point.

[@dasedworld]

My curiosity beats my will to not go into the dark hole that is the video

[@ChooseCompassion]

I think I’m going have to take a pass on this. My soul is crushed watching how many children are starving and being murdered around the world in the name of god every day. I don’t need to go back into the past to hear another horror story. 🤍

[@risesussman56]

I agree. Too little "real". Just horrible people out there and too much Sensationalization of these crimes. God help us all. Things like this will go on and on .

[@phoenixjnyc]

Very tragic. How can anyone do this to a baby. RIP Olivia Ann. Thank you for telling the story

[@KMF3]

Millions of babies are aborted each year and you're asking that question?

[@shelzblack488]

You don't understand, it's as simple as that.

[@phoenixjnyc]

@KMF3 there is always a reason as to why people do what they do

[@KMF3]

@@phoenixjnyc yes absolutely. There is always a reason.

[@vienogola1421]

Postpartum depression

[@Kimvisible]

You are one of the best creators around, Jose! Keep up the great work, and thank you for bringing light to these cases.

[@EvilIntentions]

Thank you so much!

[@miraheil5521]

I am surprised he does not have more subscribers. This is one of the best channels.

[@alfredwillems9121]

I subbed as soon as I heard His voice! Very well spoken & the story is professionally edited! I'm very impressed with this channel!👍🙏🇨🇦😎❤️

[@maevependragon]

Agreed!

[@haileeraestout5567]

@@EvilIntentions Something Akin To This ALMOST Happened To Me When I Was Born NO Really it Did If We Somehow Meet I'll Tell Ya How It Happened

[@micheferringo6434]

Awesome that you speak up for the voiceless children. 🕊️✝️

[@YooooAdrian]

Wait and she got her job back working for The Department of Health??! Whewww she got off but thanks to your channel Olivia Ann lives on. Its not lost on me that Olivia Ann would’ve been almost in her 30’s.

[@meredithisme3752]

Unfortunately the UK is a sewer

[@LittleKikuyu]

Maybe her experience made her especially suited for that post. Maybe she wants to „repent“ and give to society and to children in need BECAUSE of her past? 🥺

[@pageribe2399]

​@LittleKikuyu I sincerely doubt that.

[@nayfrmthabx]

Sounds like she never took accountability. Had it been the fiancé who suffocated the newborn, her parents would’ve crucified him.

[@mikeandmals]

Yikes… I had to read the title 3 times to make sure I read that correctly….welp here we go! Ty for covering this.

[@MarcellaReyes-wl1jh]

HES ONE OF THE BEST PODCAST STORY TELLER EVER I LOVE HIS CALMING VOICE

[@j.artiste8596]

Why are they complaining about the treatment of the daughter. But not the treatment of their grandchild by their daughter?

[@EvilIntentions]

Always find it weird when people don't keep the same energy for children

[@maevependragon]

​@@EvilIntentionsSame 😢

[@sharonburling2262]

Nowadays she would get no jail time

[@tommesiacooper1258]

Because they raised their daughter 🤷🏾‍♀️ they have no connection with the baby.

[@janelle009]

​@@tommesiacooper1258 Exactly. Not saying its right nor wrong but they had their daughter with over 25 years relationship. Itd probably be different had they met their Grandbaby im assuming. OR could be as Casey Anthonys Mom.said, she already lost her grandchild she wasnt losing her daughter no matter what happened. But No telling

[@CasaDeLosCuatroVientos]

You are absolutely right, Jose, Olivia Ann did NOT have to die! Had the mum had the support required, the baby would now be a grown woman. I live in Great Britain, I am formerly from NYC. I have worked with women with pre and post natal depression and those with post natal psychosis. Out here we have what’s called ‘mother and baby units’ for mums who have mental ill health. We do not believe in separating mums from their babies as it is very important that they bond. Obviously IF the baby will suffer from significant harm at the hands of the mum, then of course they will not place the baby in that harm. This is a tragic story and the way you reported it respected everyone involved.

[@kaleahcollins4567]

She could've honored her friend by naming the baby after her friend instead she killed the baby

[@tiffanysantiago516]

Exactly !

[@dansweda712]

I was thinking the very same thing, although telling her best friend that she was pregnant while her friend was having any chance at having one taken away from her, and eventually her entire life, would have been rough. She may have thought that getting pregnant at that time was a way the universe was punishing her even more so than just her best friend dieing

[@LifesPeachy321]

IMO her friend had nothing to do with what she did...her kiIIing her child was out of pure selfishness! Her parents treated her like a little girl...maybe in her mind she wouldn't have gotten the attention she wanted from both her parents and her bf if there was another person taking that limelight! Just my opinion.

[@kaleahcollins4567]

@dansweda712 I understand, but I honestly believe she used her friend as an excuse. That could've been a beautiful thing they could've shared together during her last days. It may have even given her a new burst of life thinking about the little person who will be taking her place. She didn't even allow the father her boyfriend to try to help her figure it out. She assumed it would've taken the shine away from her friend, but honestly, I think that baby would've brought everyone closer . She never called for help she didn't even tell him .she took his chance of being her father away because she was selfish. Even though it was stated by him, they did speak of wanting children . She was just pure evil.

[@dansweda712]

@@kaleahcollins4567 yeah, I was just trying to understand what was going through her mind, to make the kind of decisions that she had made, I'm thinking they could have been more than just friends, but what was certain was that she did have an unnatural dependency on her friend, because I believe every decision she made was with her friend in mind, no matter how twisted

[@crystalmichellef3rg23]

This was my face once you got to the part about her giving birth in the bathtub 😳😳😳😳. Wow!! As a woman who has suffered several miscarriages, I'll never understand how people can carry a baby, give birth, then kill it. That is absolutely disgusting.

[@pinkwakabeagle]

It's demonic

[@maevependragon]

Same. Sending you ❤

[@hellinahandbasket7066]

Same.

[@KMF3]

I hope you all are against abortion then.

[@crystalmichellef3rg23]

@@maevependragon thanks Hun 💗💗

[@sandraboglio7149]

How someone can kill their own child I will never understand. You said it correctly, This child should have never lost her life!!! God rest your soul 🙏 Olivia Anne..

[@denisemoore6134]

😮 People having been killing their children since the beginning of time.

[@Trouble_Bubble36]

@@denisemoore6134 Gross response

[@denisemoore6134]

@@Trouble_Bubble36 Why? This happens often all over the world. It is gross that it happens, yes.

[@viliabone1952]

I don't think this was deliberate.

[@catie5939]

Caroline was incredibly mentally ill. It's wild that a bunch of people here are acting like she's just a cold hearted murderer. The US carceral system rots our brains, I swear.

[@MilanMalone89]

I’m 42 years old born and raised in the LOWER EAST SIDE and I’ve never heard of this story before 😢wow crazy just when you think you Heard everything 💔🙏🏼 I lived a 1 block away from the man who killed that woman and served her as soup in Tompkins Square Park my neighborhood always been bad It’s actually called ALPHABET CITY and was known for drugs crime and the burnt out buildings in the 80s

[@LivingLegendMe]

I´m sure NYC has even crazier stories than this.

[@DeniseButler-hz3jn]

👏👏👏😊👍...yes yes thank u again for sharing with us. We appreciate all the time,effort, an hard work u put into these videos. Sincere prayers to this family.😔🙏🙏...♥️

[@kitkat186]

I cried God bless the airport staff for setting up a memorial, and bringing flowers to mark the life and death of the dead baby.

[@LittleFlower688]

Your story telling is so methodic, and well put together. I love the history you give in your videos. Thank you for your awareness of the families.

[@daynasafranek7807]

He keeps the story flowing and has a nice voice, very soothing. I like that he’s not all over the place! 😊

[@sillycookie1982]

Thank you for knowing how to narrate and pronounce things properly. Its very refreshing to listen to someone with a steady tone who approches the subjects in their videos with respect. I appreciate your work

[@sg-vp2qg]

Pronounce things properly? I nearly went mad with his bad pronunciation of Leyton, over and over and over:(

[@littlespinycactus]

An insightful, dispassionate yet sympathetic account of a deeply tragic tale, absent any of the histrionics and sensationalism that too often colour reports of sensitive and contentious issues. Very well done.

[@SamiG1983]

Thank you for giving these victims a voice. As a mother of a deceased son, it's devastating. She didn't deserve probation. She should've been procecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

[@WhatifiForgotMyName]

Papi, you are one of my favorite story tellers. Gracias

[@KennethRachel-xi7dv]

Hands down you're my favorite person to watch for true crime out of NYC thank you for all you're dedication and hard work ❤️🙏🏻

[@katelynbrown98]

23:18 I am shocked & annoyed that Paul didn't claim his baby.

[@tipennya]

Cause this part right here!!! Say it again please!!!! Nobody else seems to have caught it!!! 😕😞

[@tiffanylawrence6888]

That's what I said. Just weirdo behavior

[@firefly88887]

I think the relationship was mostly about Paul’s needs and putting the pieces together, this woman was in a relationship with an emotionally unavailable person, lost her best friend, had no doubt a lot of pressure from her job and no one notices her falling apart bit by bit - I don’t believe she deliberately killed her child, wouldn’t it have been easier to dispose of the baby in the middle of New York, not tie her to your chest? The girl was very sick , it’s really very sad!

[@lala4461]

It’s disgusting! Not excusing her at all, but women literally get 100% the blame for everything.

[@blackwidow5228]

Yeah. Something doesn’t seem right at all. Paul doesn’t seem like the poor innocent victim he’s made out to be. This video is incredibly bias, misleading,and definitely leaves out a lot of important details. Like prenatal depression is an actual thing. Yes, the baby is a victim but it’s not just black and white. Mental illness doesn’t work that way.

[@peach-e2470]

This story brought back an old memory.. I had an unexpected miscarriage at a young age. I was hysterical and afraid to tell my family. I bled for a few days. I'm thankful I'm still alive. But this story... she knew she was pregnant... full term.. my goodness..

[@MisterSplendy]

Excellent delivery, and style. With a powerful storytelling. This is a wild connection between 2 great cities. Im from NYC, and I remember this crazy ass story.

[@britneycee]

Her parents blame everyone, but the one person there is to blame.

[@ChrisAndCats]

It sounds to me like she did have peurperal psychosis and her parents were right. In the UK, it's treated as a medical emergency. Mothers who have it can be a danger both to themselves and the child. It can also happen right after giving birth - I quote from the NHS themselves "Symptoms usually start suddenly within the first 2 weeks after giving birth - often within hours or days of giving birth. " so as you can see, it doesn't always develop weeks later, it can be within hours of birth and is often - not rarely or never like was said at the trial - within hours.

[@TheDutchessOfCornville]

I truly appreciate the care and respect you show, not only the victims of these heinous crimes, but your audience as well. You keep an eye on your viewers mental health, and that means a lot in this day and age. Thank you again for telling these stories and giving these people a voice from beyond. I hope YOUR mental health is as good as possible, given the terrible things you have to research regularly. Thank you again.

[@TheDutchessOfCornville]

I’ve delivered 3 babies (1 with no pain control, 2 with epidural wearing off). I can’t even begin to imagine going on a trip around the city and taking a flight overseas after giving birth alone in a bathtub. God, I was in so much pain…I absolutely can’t imagine.

[@denisemoore6134]

​@@TheDutchessOfCornvilleMillions have given birth!

[@tristancyd5109]

This was just so sad, just heartbreaking.💔

[@cherylbglover]

I remember this. When she came home to the UK a lot of people thought she should have stayed in the US to rot

[@richersonkate]

She was in full blown psychosis. She was out of her mind.

[@katewolfspirit6722]

Yes, I believe so, but I am NOT condoning her actions. Why else would she take her deceased baby with her to the airport, thus uncovering the terrible truth? How come nobody heard the baby cry after she was born if she was alive? Guilty people do their best to cover up their crimes and cover their tracks. Caroline did not discard her baby, which she could easily have done without detection. Nevertheless, this is a terrible case, poor baby Olivia and my heart goes out to her Dad Paul.

[@lindawalters9334]

I totally agree with you, I came on to comment that none of us knows how we would react in those circumstances.I came on to comment saying something along those lines but reading most comments people are sadly lacking in compassion RIP baby girl

[@jabbermocky4520]

She needed help. So awful that nobody noticed her pregnancy or urged her to see a psychologist for depression. She seems to have been absorbed into her boyfriend's family but didn't she have any family of her own? Nobody she could confide in? That's tragic, if so. But yes, she was clearly in shock while delivering that poor baby alone in a hotel room in a strange city and unfamiliar country. Out of her mind, indeed. Not a cold blooded murderer, in my opinion, but a frightened, physically compromised young woman who had nobody she could trust to help her. Just so terribly sad. Hiding the corpse under her clothes is weird, definitely, and it makes no rational sense unless you consider that she might have wanted to keep the baby close to her for emotional comfort. To bring her home for a proper burial, maybe. Impossible to know what was going on in her tortured mind.

[@hilaryb8807]

Agreed… She had been very ill for a long time. Her friend’s illness, subsequent death, and guilt surrounding her pregnancy was too much for her to mentally handle. She tried to cope through denial and dissociation, and the pregnancy hormones just tipped her into psychosis. It’s very sad that her family didn’t notice or care about her declining mental health and get her help.

[@bethcushway458]

Absolutely. The lack of empathy or understanding in these comments is disgusting.

[@squallie78]

New Subscriber here. I remember this case. The way this content was put together, how it was told an narrated is excellent. Impactful would be an understatement.

[@EvilIntentions]

I truly appreciate that!

[@lionelluva]

While I sympathize with Caroline and her grief from the passing of her friend, Alison, Caroline still committed a heinous act and should’ve been punished accordingly. Honestly, she got away with murder. RIP Olivia Ann 🕊️

[@KittynFranky7643]

Ooooh, sounds very intriguing, now I'll have to watch before going to sleep. It's 2am, but for you sleep can wait. And thank you for always being so compassionate and kind to the victims. God bless.

[@Bloxsor]

Where are you from?? Im on the East Coast of the US and it's currently 9:08 pm here

[@karenkreim6956]

Ooooh, sounds intriguing? You make it sound like it's a love story! Are you nuts!

[@KittynFranky7643]

@@Bloxsor only saw your message now, I'm from South Africa.

[@Bloxsor]

@@KittynFranky7643 oh, ok

[@kilis3804]

I love how Jose tells a story. Cool factoids you don’t expect. I still learn a lot of things while watching these unfortunate crime stories.

[@EvilIntentions]

Thank you for that!

[@gloriaross4265]

My jaw is currently on the floor, hold on...I can only imagine her mental state while all this was happening.

[@missyflutter5562]

Poor Caroline the 90s weren’t exactly mental health friendly and she was clearly in a bad way. My heartbreaks for everyone in this story.

[@stephcarlofc]

Thank you so much Mr. Ortiz for giving voices to the ones who can't speak anymore. I remember hearing about this case in the 90s. Extremely disturbing indeed. And to think this woman is now free is disgusting. RIP to the baby. The baby didn’t deserve this. The baby will not be forgotten. You are a class act Mr. Ortiz. You was still able to show care, compassion, and love for the victims you always do!! Much respect!!

[@rosiemackenzie5976]

Lots of red flags long before the trip to New York. Anyone suffering from depression should be taken seriously, and if they aren't capable of helping themselves, then those around them, their friends should intervene and encourage her to get help, and if not going to their Dr to get help.

[@TheRetroWoman80]

You are absolutely correct.

[@lizar7623]

It's so easy to say that. You can't force someone to get help especially when you offer it and they move away from it.

[@rosiemackenzie5976]

@@lizar7623I understand what you are saying. I had a friend commit suicide and if I had been more switched on maybe I could have prevented it, this person showed all the signs of depression and I was too wrapped up in my own world to notice. I would like to think if I was in the same situation again I would recognise the signs and be more pro-active.

[@nickiperkins3839]

But it was a different world back then. Depression was considered selfindulgent and being lazy. The tide was only just starting to turn with mental health. It wasn't all flags n banners as it is now. I was 27 in 1994. I've suffered depression since puberty. People were still very much "pull yourself together" & "stop feeling sorry for yourself" my own gp told me to "get out there n stop thinking about yourself so much" just 2yrs after losing my daughter to cotdeath.

[@63annushka]

​​@@lizar7623She was pregnant and nobody noticed, it seems many people around her were unavailable and not paying enough attention to even offer help. I think that's why she felt guilty sharing her pregnancy and grief. Emotionally unavailable people are very common.

[@aquafina6544]

She killed her baby planned her fate and used her dead friend as an scape goat while hiding the pregnancy and making sure Paul was out when she made her move. She knew she was in labor. The fact that she got her job back as a child advocate is appalling

[@cleanserene6330]

*scapegoat

[@cristinaontivero1278]

What she was working with children. Unbelievable

[@aquafina6544]

@@cleanserene6330 my typo is all you got from my comment..smfh ez fix perfect typist

[@aquafina6544]

@@cristinaontivero1278 yes she was

[@acinoreVee]

But why though? Because what I was thinking was she considered the baby as punishment and she looked at her best friend dying as the same. But instead of honoring her friend she….well yk

[@kimgrace1855]

Very sad story. 😭 Thank you for sharing with us. You never disappoint. Love and respect to you. ❤

[@EvilIntentions]

Thank you for the kind words!

[@gloriaross4265]

Wow!! 🤯🤯 Thank you for this you did a hell of job telling this story...

[@EvilIntentions]

Thank you so much!

[@TheStar798]

Wow. I wasn't expecting this to have a link to my neck of the woods (London; great job btw, Jose, on the details of Leytonstone 💜👍) - but I suspect that in her deep depression and grief, Caroline actually thought she was "carrying" a surrogate dead ghost baby for her friend (hence not feeling connected to her baby, Olivia, and not telling her partner and Mum that she was pregnant - and trying to bring the body back to the UK to probably bury with her friend 👀 😢). Psychologically, all of that sleeping - 11/12 hours at a time - spells deep depression. That poor, poor little baby 😢 R.I.P babygirl 💜 💐

[@dianabeurman364]

I know a woman who sleeps 14hrs a day.She is not suffering from depression.

[@TheStar798]

@@dianabeurman364 fascinating

[@alexk9646]

@@dianabeurman364could be due to fatigue related to a medical issue. 14 hours of sleep daily is not normal and your friend should consult a doctor.

[@ashleyw6160]

I've been subbed for several months already, but I just wanted to say thank u. I can hear compassion & empathy just thru your voice. Thank u for making these videos...and an even bigger thank u for not letting victims, like this sweet babygirl, be forgotten!! Sending u lots of love ~From TN ❤❤❤

[@AnnacolleenEtters]

Wish I could go on with this video. Sorry, I lost my first child, 47 years ago, coming up on the 22nd of this month. The pain never goes away.

[@EvilIntentions]

Trust me, I understand. Sorry for your loss.

[@AnnacolleenEtters]

@@EvilIntentions Thank you and God bless you.

[@sophiah1091]

💜🙏🏿

[@melodyclark4347]

🙏🕊

[@TheRetroWoman80]

Hugs💚💚💚💚🥺

[@barbmckinnon1283]

As always your stories are hard to listen to but you tell them very gently and with so much respect, thank you❤

[@joyburton3967]

What a heartbreaking story! Thank you for bringing it to us. 🙏⚘️

[@ronagermeaux4479]

Good job reporting the facts of this case. I did find myself torn, but as a mother, who also went through extreme mental health issues and suffered intense domestic abuse during my pregnancies, I could NEVER harm my child! I would, in fact, protect them with extreme ferocity. My daughter was born Sept 8, 1994, so much of this hit home with me. I do commend you, sir, for your ability to look at both sides of this sad, sad case and present it without bias. Great job! Thank you.

[@goldenretrievermom7945]

You did an amazing job of preserving Olivia Ann's memory. Thank you for telling her story.

[@dont_harsh_my_mellow]

I can’t imagine how much suffering that Carol went through over watching her friend suffer for that long and being given false hope for recovery. However, there are quite a few resources for people to use if they don’t want their pregnancies. She could have pursued an abortion, adopted her out, or even named baby after that friend as a way to honor her and keep her memory alive. There’s no excuse to do what she did unless she was in a psychotic state. Wow.

[@JMJandMe]

Thank you for your love of this baby girl.

[@ladytj4u]

She was and still is in the health care field. How could she not know her baby girl was alive? I wonder what else was she hiding, was the baby her fiancé’s? Thanks for honoring the memory of a little girl, that didn’t get a chance to live.

[@jsilvasr1110]

I watch a lot of true crime, but the stories you cover are almost always ones I’ve never heard of. You’re doing amazing work getting these stories out there for the families left behind!!! Thanks for all you do!

[@johncbny]

I know it sounds macabre to say I can hardly wait for your videos. But although I ‘love’ watching them, it’s so heartbreaking that videos like these have to be made.

[@timbit8670]

I can’t even imagine so I will just say this you’re one of the best creators on this app and you just keep getting better. I appreciate the effort you put into the memories of the victims of these horrible events and the dignity you give to them is why you are the best

[@EvilIntentions]

Thank you so much for the kind words!

[@dantesinferno1258]

It’s 2:00 am here in U.K. and way past my bedtime but I’ll DEFINITELY be circling back after I’ve slept. The title is bizarre!

[@Mehki227]

What a miraculous recovery! Nothing like killing your baby and being on trial for murder to bring you out of a depression.

[@midnightgamer4507]

She deserves no sympathy or kindness. What she did was unforgivable. She didn't call an ambulance, seek help, or take steps to help the kid.

[@firefly88887]

She had Perinatal depression and a very serious case of it , we are all pretty familiar with PND but not so with Perinatal depression, which in serious cases are a considered a very high risk to the baby . I have worked with women with both and it would likely surprise you to now that there are cases of women with PND who believe that their very alive 3 month old is dead ! We should not judge, these cases are completely different from women who starve and torture their kids or pass them around to be abused. Mental illness would still have been so stigmatised in 1990’s in the U.K they were only beginning to understand PND never mind Perinatal depression? Because it’s invisible doesn’t mean it’s not happening to someone!

[@donnaritch9704]

easy now...this woman was very ill ...remember to walk in another's shoes

[@youknowimright1725]

You're a stupd fk, u don't know what you're talking abt, stfu

[@elishh8173]

Yes she does! She was psychotic!!! Poor girl. Poor baby

[@Noodlepunk]

​@@firefly88887The UK has free Healthcare she could have gone she is just evil.

[@annamartinez3699]

My Dearest Evil Intentions,This story is not only sad but heartbreaking....It reminds a little of Andrea Yates the woman who killed her children....I think that family members and husbands and or boyfriends should pay attention to their significant others and seek help if seeing any odd behaviors ... Something so little that is noticed on time could possibly save a childs life....Thank you for telling this story...Rest In Paradise,Baby Girl 🙏💯💔....

[@kimsmith5253]

Appreciate what you do, attention to detail, interesting case choices, and fluid storytelling make your channel stand out! Thank you for the time you invest! Big fan

[@KimberlyBishh]

Very soothing voice, it's nice to listen to these stories and drift off to sleep....and listen to what I missed in the morning 😅

[@Mina_Loyal]

Thank you for all the hard work you put into these tragic stories.

[@emmabovary1228]

I often save stories from different channels as a treat to myself when I can devote listening without interruption. I was not disappointed with your channel. Your voice and cadence are wonderful for the genre. I’m thrilled to have found you.

[@juliapalmer2344]

What a joke of a sentence. How dare her parents criticize our judicial system. Then the parents want to blame the fiance also but not their daughter. RIP Olivia Ann.

[@maiziebug]

Thank you for your incredibly done videos your narration is respectful, well researched, informative and eloquent

[@EvilIntentions]

Thank you so much! I appreciate you!

[@misstruboyzrc]

I thought I knew every known story related to crime (literally) until I found your channel! I can’t tell you how nice it is to hear a new story every time I watch your videos. Thank you for being original & an amazing story teller!

[@justiceseeker]

This whole thing is so sad, grief is so powerful.

[@Ruth-ty2fw]

You're a Really Good Story Teller. I could really feel how important this Story is. Thank You 🐞

[@renee1961]

That Precious , Helpless Baby! My heart hurts for the Defenseless Baby! 💔💔💔🙏🙏🙏🥀🥀🥀🕊️🕊️🕊️

[@suefairbrother3556]

She literally got away with murder. The only victim here is the poor baby girl R. I. P. Baby girl.

[@tipennya]

The same baby's father that didn't bother to claim her and take her back home and honor her with even a proper burial in his name? No, thank you

[@suefairbrother3556]

@@tipennya oh wow I somehow missed that bit.

[@elizabethmckinlay]

Enjoyed this one thank you I grew up in Leicester but it is pronounced Lester. I know it’s nothing like how it’s spelled lol Love your channel xx

[@weeza55]

He very well with all the other wonky English place names

[@MDWJS]

I’m English as well live in Massachusetts saving grace is Leicester is pronounced Lester lol most of the pronunciations are the same !

[@SporkPixie]

First time finding your video. You have a wonderful voice for telling stories. Also, I really enjoyed your style of reporting this case. Especially the warning you gave at the beginning. I was in my late 20s when it happened, and I don't remember hearing about it. Keep up the great work. Oh, and epic beard too!

[@tabithaforrester3819]

Another amazing and respectfully done video! Keep up the great work ❤

[@karimawatford269]

And another thing, you my friend have done it again! Thank you for sharing, making sure these gorgeous lil angels aren’t forgotten!😇🙌🏽👑💖 Ur voice is so soothing, ur well spoken and detailed to the point I don’t think u leave anything out. I appreciate and enjoy ur channel so much, I look forward to ur next post🙏🏽 Your so respectful to the families and you report these stories with such grace, it’s truly a gift bc not everyone can do this with all that you tribute to each case to make sure it’s told in the best way possible 💪🏽💯 Thank you, Thank you, and Thank you again 😂 I love ur work, keep it up! Peace n Blessings 🫶🏽🙏🏽👑💐😇💖

[@brightmomma8532]

Dear lord this one was rough.... I lost my mother to cancer when I was in my mid twenties my baby brother was 19 . We watched her suffer for 3 years the last year of my mother's life was misery for her no matter how hard she tried to put on a good face for us kids, we knew her suffering was unbearable.. when she passed it killed my siblings and I . Our mother was our not only our world but she was the light for the entire family. After her death it seemed the entire family abandoned us because we reminded them of her which reminded them of the pain left in her presence... it by far was the worst most painful time in my life... it took years for me to come out of the grief .... the birth of my son is what saved me TRULY ... I'll never understand her actions !!! NEVER

[@tinacollins9213]

I can relate to your story I cared for my mum for 7years I woke to do her breakfast Tina make me a cup of tea ,I did held it to her mouth , then she had a heart attack gone in a flash , I screamed to house down I went into shock . My hair fell out soon after , I’m so sorry for your pain love no one understands but you will , how much hurt ,memories pain loss

[@JulieHannah-lg7fy]

I'm so sorry for what you went thru and I hope your doing much better today 🙏

[@JulieHannah-lg7fy]

​@@tinacollins9213so sorry for you too and same to you in I hope your doing much better today 🙏

[@Chelseacoastmaine]

I love your storytelling and how you got right into it without interruptions. Subscribed!

[@FknNefFy]

🙋🏼‍♀️ Hi!... Just discovered this channel and subscribed. It's nice to actually see the face behind the voice. (I always wonder what the person looks like when I listen to podcasts.) Good job- and thanks for creating this!❤

[@carolzappa1804]

Thank you for reminding us who was the real victim; and that she has not been forgotten. 💔

[@sandibaker5298]

Thank you for being a voice for the voiceless!❤❤

[@thickgoddess1835]

Tuning in from NC❤ Had to brace myself for this one because of the title and caption alone. But I'm ready!! Blessings to you, I love your channel!!🎉🎉🎉

[@susansnyder11]

Everyone was so consumed with Caroline and how she was feeling and her "mental" state. And yet the baby (Olivia Ann) is barely a footnote in the story of "poor" Caroline. That sweet precious child will never experience any first. No loving touch, no warm feelings of family connections, no taste of ice cream or the sights and feels of a first snowfall, nothing. Rip sweet Olivia Ann 😢❤

[@MotherofDragonzzz]

💔

[@geraldinelafayette1838]

Olivia Ann is in paradise where no baby girl is harmed away from this cruel world, playing with all the other children, in the care of Jesus. She wasn’t meant for this evil place!

[@jankk]

Caroline is a living woman with a serious mental illness

[@mariekatherine5238]

She did the wrong thing, but was mentally and emotionally unwell. I don’t think she was legally insane, she was clearly not able to have proper judgment. If she were just evil, she’d have disposed of the baby in New York, like in a dumpster or in the sewer. She would not have tried to smuggle her on a plane to London! She should do some time in prison while receiving counseling. After release, she needed on-going counseling and supervision.

[@shortsweetness876]

Lol yall love seeing that mentally insane crap for everything! She knew exactly wtf she was doing!

[@NurseKayP]

I agree. No one knew. She could of disposed of the baby's body and it would of never been connected to her because she would of been back in the UK. Clearly she was mentally ill and had convinced herself that the baby was stillborn. Sounds like she believed that prior to the baby being born. It's a terrible situation regardless, but I don't thinking putting her away for life would of been the right choice.

[@shereenshams1277]

Caroline is not evil. She is far from it. My heart goes out to her ❤

[@charityrocks]

My husband knows everything about me. I can’t even hide a sore knee from him. ❤ He’s the greatest most intuitive husband anyone could ever dream of having. I can’t help but see this woman as having no support for her to do this.

[@suefairbrother3556]

I've just discovered your uploads. I haven't heard of lots of them before. Thank you for your time and effort. From New Zealand 🇳🇿

[@sherrismith8874]

Im not from New York, and I've only been lucky enough to visit once, but it's got to have millions of stories, and what a great idea to have a KZbin channel dedicated to telling those New York stories! I'm subscribing.

[@London2Paris95]

Never heard about this one i know watching your videos that this happens everywhere but yes the baby is forgotten the mom is the victim ...the most cases i heard of, here in Europe, there are no consequences at all it's ridiculous the mom is pictured as the victim when the real one is the baby and they do not even get a tap on their hands that's true , thanks so much Jose i really appreciate all your work 😊

[@annemorgan2064]

I love your stories, your voice, and your compassion. Thank you for remembering the lost.

[@autumn111155551]

I can understand hiding her pregnancy from her dying friend, as her friend wanted children and all. I just can’t understand hiding it from Paul. You’d think she would name her baby after her friend, and it would be a new start. But people don’t always do things that make sense 🤷‍♀️

[@ashleykelly6527]

Yes! Once her friend passed, why didnt she tell him? She deserved way more than 8 months in jail.

[@Belovelyava]

Exactly, makes one wonder who the dad actually was. Why not tell Paul

[@lesleywilliams1210]

It sounds like she had a complete mental break. As someone above said, pregnancy hormones are not a joke. The fact that she went to the airport with the deceased baby demonstrates she wasn't in her right mind. I can state this and still feel sorry for the baby.

[@elizabethjones1588]

Note Paul’s not claiming the baby’s body, dropping her like a rock when she was truly suffering mentally……what a joke of a man.

[@63annushka]

Paul didn't claim the baby after he found out and called himself not romantic, he seems like an emotionally unavailable boyfriend. I understand why she wouldn't feel comfortable telling him.

[@nanetten6238]

This is so well-written and presented. It made me question my own thinking on the situation. Much food for thought.

[@valerie241]

I remember this story. She was clearly mentally unwell.

[@princessparker3627]

As a New Yorker I dreamed of a channel such as this . I watch every upload . I appreciate it . I’ve never heard of 97% of the cases you post . You’re a Gem 🙏🏽 Stay blessed & safe