World Exclusive! New Baby AR Wing PRO

It should be listed on your local SonicModell/ZOHD resellers website today (29May23).
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[@batmojuice5704]

I love the Mini AR Wing, except for the room inside. This looks like it does a better job at that.

[@JekleFPV]

Looks pretty sweet! And looks a lot like a 3D printed wing I’m working on (470mm span as it sits today)

[@MCsCreations]

Pretty sweet looking little wing, Lee! Fantastic review! 😃 Looking forward to see how you build it! Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

[@gandalf.mitrandil]

Cool ! Looking forward to see the final set up and maiden!!

[@jas-FPV]

Looking forward to your test , especially with walksnail inside the hatch. I also would have expected a little more thought for HD systems from first look. But I‘m sure your test will elaborate on that ☺️☺️☺️☺️

[@julianhumphrey4843]

so cute, to small for me and i have the AR pro 1000 but looking forward to seeing you fly this....nice one Lee

[@burtpanzer]

Might make a good alternative, as I put so much effort into crating the perfect AR-Wing Pro, that now I'm too nervous to fly it.

[@QEDFPV]

This is amazing, exactly what I wanted!

[@dronepilot260rc]

I’m going to buy a kit version and make it 6s 🎉. I’m really excited for this one

[@mark6302]

that thing is rad as hell

[@WinstonSmith1984]

Interesting! I hope that you put Walksnail in it and a Go 2 mounted somehow on top. I also hope that it doesn't have too much wing wag as that is often the gamble with new and especially small wings. I think concentrating the mass around the center helps (which means not using the outer wing pockets), and building them with a higher wing loading also seems to help from my experience. I also wonder if a Vista air unit will fit inside because that's all I have at the moment.

[@ADF_Cable]

I love how sonic modell work with you mate, great!

[@gmivisualsjason3729]

Would love to see a step by step guide on this...... still haven't been brave enough to buy my first wing. But this one looks tempting

[@ZED-PV]

Do it!!! You can do it! There is so much support online and it is not as hard as you may imagine. Make that leap, take that first step... I guarantee you, you will not regret it.

[@maro0016]

Great model & very interesting 😊

[@AerialWaviator]

Nice to see new models. Just in time for summer! Besides the Baby AR Wing, I noticed there is a refreshed "White Falcon" edition of the larger Sonicmodell AR Wing. What would be cool is if Sonicmodell/ZOHD provided an STL file for hatch that allow making a 3d-print to install a VTx up top.

[@Painless360]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/gIjTlJ1-j5iYitU

[@lorenrb80]

You are an asset to the community sir!

[@jankucera8505]

thank you for including fixed wings again!

[@Painless360]

Thanks for the comment. I've never stopped covering interesting new fixed wings... Happy flying

[@MrD]

Nice, removable wings. This will be something I can take on the motorbike. I’ll have to order one. Think the Mini AR could be retiring. Only things to me are: - the motor. It seems small. The Mini AR was 1806, so a little larger. I think slightly larger with lower KV may have been better. But, it looks pretty interesting. I know the Dart250g was the same size. But it was smaller and lighter. - I’m not a fan of those hinges. All those gaps are going to lose efficiency from the wing. I think some glider hinge covering tape will be needed to get the absolute most out of it. Still, hopefully HobbyRC will get them in soon.

[@techstuff6829]

The STRIX Nano Goblin "performance" version uses a 1407 motor at 4100Kv with a 4.1x4.1 prop. Can take 2s or 3s.

[@MrD]

@@techstuff6829 the Nano Goblin is also smaller, lighter, and is more aero-efficient. It’s smaller and lighter than the Dart 250g too.

[@andrewerickson6690]

Ah now I know why they stopped the mini ar wing

[@theoztreecrasher2647]

Yep. This is just the Mini AR Wing updated a bit. Nothing wrong with that - the older one is a great "hooligan" toy! 😉

[@RCDUDEFPV]

Very nice

[@anthonystownsend]

Finally, I've only seen 1 photo from getFPV floating around

[@Painless360]

Yep, they screwed up. Happy flying!

[@frankyflowers]

that is sweet

[@franklinmellott2319]

Lee, I see you do a lot of flying wings. I always struggle with the amount of "up" elevate to bias in for hand launching. Any general recommendations to present the "inverted J" maneuver?

[@Painless360]

I use INAV Autolaunch a lot here and that takes care of it. Good manufacturers are now starting to add the reflex needed into the manuals.. See the Baby AR wing Pro.. If all else fails (and I am not using INAV) then I err on the side of caution and use instant trim on the radio to fix... Happy flying

[@Chilternflyer]

My AR Mini has been brilliant. The only thing it needed was bigger (wider) battery bay. My AR wing Pro was a disaster. You have to have a huge battery and the weight of a Go Pro in the nose to have any chance of it balancing (I had a multistar 5200 4s plus 124g of lead in the Go Pro bay at the front). Even though it was unnecessarily heavy it still had plenty of power. However, it's real flaw are the flexing elevons. I nearly lost mine on a high speed low pass on the second flight and then killed it on the fourth flight after is failed to pull up to avoid a tree. I hope that the baby has stiffer elevons!

[@andrewerickson6690]

Laminate the elevons

[@Videolinquency]

A very interesting design, but I suspect split type analogue cameras would be even harder to fit - their non-extendable leads are simply to short to reach behind the battery, and their boards are too large to go in front of it.

[@wiz_paniwa]

We need more AtomRc Dolphin videos :)

[@ninehunnerdriver]

Just maidened mine. Flys with a horrible up down oscillating flutter. Gyro fitted but switched that off and still flutters. Increases with speed! Wondered if it is the unsupported elevon tips..? Servo linkages are a long way away from tips...?

[@Painless360]

Best of luck finding the cause. It isn't a common issue with these... Happy flying

[@helidude71]

Nice! Problem is that Sonicmodell is hard to get in the EU. (UK not an option because of import tax.)

[@MrVasmikey]

Thx Lee! Once I’ve learned to toss his big brother w/o crashing, I may consider this one.

[@Painless360]

See my maiden video for the PRO.... Happy flying

[@kiddfpv]

Ive been wanting to get into planes/wings and this looks perfect! Do you know when itll be available/where?

[@Painless360]

Today at your local Sonicmodell and ZOHD stockist!

[@DVCJoe]

Hello, would a layer of tape over the elevon hinge help with durability?

[@Painless360]

Maybe... Happy flying

[@blueskyfpv]

Thanks for the reviewI've only ever build 1 fixed wing (AR pro), so consider me a newbie on fixed wings. I don't understand why servos don't come set up from factory, or at least the specifics of the servo setup. The basic servo setup from 1 pnp model (my AR wing pro) to the next (your AR wing pro) isn't different. Its not like they don't this information; manufacturers build and test their planes before selling. Why not include details like...1) centre servo, 2) use second hole on servo arm, 3) use top hole on control horn and 4) have the rod 78mm long. Its obvious that they can do this considering the model in this review comes from factory with the servos already set up. I know that if someone is doing a complete scratch build with their own servos, control arms and rods then the linkages needs to be figured out by the builder. But with PNP models I just don't get it. Thanks as always for the great information.

[@davidwebb4904]

Are there any aircraft of similar or greater spec than the Parrot Disco, with its autopilot and 4g capabilities?

[@Painless360]

Not that I know of. Anyone else reading this have an idea?

[@GhostRyderFPV]

Are SonicModell and ZOHD the same company, or are you testing my sobriety? lol I guess if they _are_ the same, then ZOHD is the group the stole all the straight-edge rulers, and the SonicModell side has the only wind tunnel. Both make epic planes, I love my Dart and Mini AR Wing equally :-)

[@Painless360]

Sister brands but have common manufacturing, sales and marketing functions... Happy flying

[@OneTwo-wt8qv]

Fancy a race? .. Blade/Horizon Hobby Theory Type W : ) lol

[@Painless360]

Let's see how it flies first ;)

[@jaysonrees738]

When there's no mounting plate in a foam model, how does a person mount things?

[@Painless360]

Glue in mounts, normally... Happy flying

[@slymanaltawil2271]

Would the thumb screw on the wing break in a crash?

[@Painless360]

In all the models I have here that use them, I've not had that happen. The bolt isn't the only thing holding the wing... Happy flying

[@slymanaltawil2271]

Sweet!! That's going to be my next project thumb screw on my wings! Thanks! Looking forward to your next video!

[@ackroyd11]

My full size ar wing was so tail heavy.. Id guess this would have a similar issue with this

[@Painless360]

Nope, not the same Build and flight review coming soon..

[@johncarold]

SOLD! Who do I order it from.

[@Painless360]

It'll be released later today...Happy flying

[@MassimoHely]

hi dear ' please which fc and gps with compass do you recommend for this model? compatible with inav 6 if pissible.thank you for your time.Max

[@Painless360]

Check out any of my INAV for beginners series. I built mine using the Matek F405-Wing and a Matek GPS and Compass unit..

[@curlybracket]

Please make ardupilot firmware source code course

[@Painless360]

Already done. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gairopykZc-nfbs

[@Jay-zc7iq]

Hi painless or anyone else that could help , I’m starting to get in to fc and I’d like to get the correct wires for for things like gps , crossfire stuff like that what is the gauge I’m looking to buy as I’m a tad lost and wanted to get all the stuff I needed to do the job Many thanks in advance 🙏

[@Painless360]

Fixed wing or multirotor?

[@Jay-zc7iq]

@@Painless360 fixed wing ,starting with speedybee f405wing but i need to wire micro jst to gps stuff like that and to run my crossfire nano a bit further also my camera vtx things like that

[@Painless360]

You can use really small wires for things like Rx and GPS modules. When you need a lot of current (amps) you need more copper wire to carry it. If you are using higher voltages (volts) then the wire needs more insulation. The only wires that need consideration are the ones from the battery to the flight controller. See my quad building for beginners series - i.e kzbin.info/www/bejne/mou2f3-XrMpraKs

[@geekthesteve6215]

What's the RTF weight?

[@Painless360]

Depends what you add... Happy flying

[@AParkin]

Where can I buy it from

[@Painless360]

It'll be released on sellers websites today... Link in description. Keep your eyes open... Happy flying

[@WinstonSmith1984]

But does it fly? So far there are no youtube videos of it flying.

[@Painless360]

Too new.... Happy flying

[@boxhead916]

I wanted to ask 5 days ago, but missed the send click and this waited for me come back and see if you have flight vid he he. Dose this need a FC?

[@Painless360]

I'd add one personally. You can probably make it work without...

[@johncarold]

When can I order it

[@Painless360]

Later today... Happy flying

[@domgoff999]

@@Painless360 do we know what websites will be selling it, will you add links to your description?

[@domgoff999]

I’ve ordered it from Banggood 😊

[@wildbill4680]

Could anyone recommend any good sub 250g FPV wings please? Thanks

[@Painless360]

See my sub250g playlist. The Dart 250g is the only one that springs to mind..

[@wildbill4680]

@@Painless360 thank you