World of Warships- German Battleship Guide

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Sea Lord Mountbatten

Sea Lord Mountbatten

3 жыл бұрын

Hey guys! Today I bring you guys my guide to German battleships in 2020, enjoy!
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@sealordmountbatten
@sealordmountbatten 3 жыл бұрын
Hey guys, Shotcut messed up with the intro music, it isn't supposed to be that loud, I apologize Corrections: 1)105s can only pen 26mm (I still believe IFHE shouldn't be equipped because it reduces the fire chance too much) 2) PM doesn't apply to secondaries, this was apparently changed a while ago but I missed the memo (I would still take it for the main battery)
@Parobro
@Parobro 3 жыл бұрын
I still don’t know what IFHE is and PM
@halowerder3356
@halowerder3356 3 жыл бұрын
@@Parobro Look it up then?
@Parobro
@Parobro 3 жыл бұрын
halo werder could have just told it to me now 😂
@stodgers
@stodgers 3 жыл бұрын
@@Parobro inertia fuse high explosive, and preventative maintenance
@obiwankenobaddie2734
@obiwankenobaddie2734 3 жыл бұрын
halo werder chill
@davidandmartinealbon3155
@davidandmartinealbon3155 3 жыл бұрын
To quote Count Dooku: "I've been looking forward to this" I've started german BBs a couple of weeks ago so this video is right on time
@anthrax2413
@anthrax2413 3 жыл бұрын
I feel sorry for you. I got to the GK and regret it. Should have stopped at the Bismarck, but the journey until there was awful. The Gneisenau is a disaster.
@davidandmartinealbon3155
@davidandmartinealbon3155 3 жыл бұрын
@@anthrax2413 so I should stop at Bismarck?
@nureinkommentar5762
@nureinkommentar5762 3 жыл бұрын
@@anthrax2413 I am also glad I stopped at Bismarck, but the Gneis is as fun as Bismarck, I even bought the gold camo
@theunknownone5990
@theunknownone5990 3 жыл бұрын
Just bear in mind they are nowhere near as nimble as Bismarck, and that GK in particular has better firing angles when angled away. There is also a certain angle where you can be citadeled through the bow at close range in german ships. The smaller guns also seem to be the weapon of choice for most people, as the bigger ones don't cross any overmatch thresholds. The big thing GK has over Bismarck and FDG is that all of her secondaries can pen 32 mm plating.
@anthrax2413
@anthrax2413 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidandmartinealbon3155 I think you should. The FdG grind was an absolute hell, especially the stock grind, when CVs will eat you alive. And the GK....well, the thing is so massive that you will be priority number one for HE spammers, torpedoes (and there are a lot of both), CVs and other BBs. Those great secondaries, provided you have a 19 skills captain, will be used once in a blue moon and your main guns have less range than Bismarck and also suffers from bad dispersion, way too often overpens, lowest alpha at the tier and average penetration. Bismarck, or the Tirpitz for that matter, is the best that line has to offer. I hated the Gneisenau because it has thr awful signature german dispersion and overpen without the secondaries to make up for it.
@mrdoge9508
@mrdoge9508 3 жыл бұрын
The (comparatively) extreme loud noises at the 1:55 mark scared me greatly.
@rootx7750
@rootx7750 3 жыл бұрын
it was annoying for such a sound level variance...
@skincookiez7576
@skincookiez7576 3 жыл бұрын
When you think about it, the Gneissenau is like having an 11 turret torpedo cruiser partner right next to you 24/7. Edit: on both sides!
@Shinjin509
@Shinjin509 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent summary M'Lord. Thank you for all you do for students of WOWs.
@behroozkhaleghirad
@behroozkhaleghirad 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your valuable advice. Man oh man did I need it. I had a Bismark 2 years ago and now with my new account, I really struggle with bayern, specially because of it's slow turret rotation.
@Bohdisattva326
@Bohdisattva326 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. On the Odin I go full fire 🔥 prevention- accuracy build and it seems to work effectively in all scenarios
@oKAOTiKo
@oKAOTiKo 3 жыл бұрын
Wish I could have a match in GK like the one you featured here. That was fantastic to watch.
@jdmaltezza
@jdmaltezza 3 жыл бұрын
After playing the entire line of german bbs I have found that go survivability as secondaries don't do dmg and you will be so happy to hit targets with your main battery.
@tekaid23
@tekaid23 3 жыл бұрын
Hope you're gonna apply to be a super tester now they are taking some new ones on. You put a lot into the game, buying new ships to review for us and your 1st etc immpressions series is great. It'd be nice if WG rewarded you... Imo you deserve it.
@skipper4126
@skipper4126 3 жыл бұрын
3 Things they could do to actually keep them up to date. 1. Shell fuses that are consistent and efficient. 2. Main gain accuracy improvement. 3. Armour that isn't completely useless at ranges over about 12km. Brawler Design - Great you have radar, invisible stealth ships and now subs, so getting too effective range becomes ridiculous. It's been this way for a long time, when you have a secondary build you must use your secondaries to even have a remote chance of doing great damage, otherwise you are wasting your time. Too that end any thing less than 100 secondary hits a game is a waste, good luck getting those numbers. Just to prove my self right, I'll jump in my Alabama, which is hilariously specialized for anti air. In one game without much thought I did over 80k damage, because the guns hit, because they pen and explode. - This was a tier 8 maybe with some tier 9's Match. I've been plying on and off since just before the german bb's got announced. I have tier 10 German BB's, British BB's, I can technically research the North Carolina (don't care for US tree, since I have the Alabama, tier 10 German cruisers, British Cruisers, tier 7 British DD's tier 8 Euro DD's. and a mix match of other things. - Point is, i have experience with the game.
@nathanielflorendo5190
@nathanielflorendo5190 3 жыл бұрын
While a good improvement, I'd dump them all just for better firing angles.
@gusp6612
@gusp6612 3 жыл бұрын
“Shell fuses that’s consistent” German BB has standard BB fuse, with shorter fuse you wouldn’t citadel BBs, like the RN line. “Accuracy improvement” I have no problem with accuracy. The dispersion buff is enough. It’s standard now compared to other BBs “Armor that works above 12km” You’re stupid if you think that way. German BB always have the best armor in their tier except T10. Your turtleback works up way over 12km. And your deck and upper belt can easily shatter HE My most recent Bismarck game, with secondary build I rack up 117k damage. With only 81 secondary hits (19k damage). The guns definitely work. I’ve been playing German BBs all the way back when they have the stupid French dispersion. Now with the US dispersion, your guns isn’t all that inconsistent. Bismarck now literally have the same dispersion as your Alabama. With only 0.1 less sigma. Not a huge difference.
@stefanocrosazzo3262
@stefanocrosazzo3262 3 жыл бұрын
You should try North Carolina, though. Her accuracy is insane, probably the most consistent t8 BB (well, except Champagne I guess) and very rewarding
@skipper4126
@skipper4126 3 жыл бұрын
@@gusp6612 We are playing a different game. Perfect aiming on a target giving a full broadside and you'd be lucky to get half those shells to land and even luckier against to have half of those that land, armour pen the target at medium range. And then someone in a different faction lands half their 9 - 12 gun salvo and most of it pens and you loose 20k HP. Why? Because the armour is useless. I've bounced shells at point blank because armour values and angling actually works for most people. Shit I can bounce with a KGV against 16 inch guns. Unless you can actually provide video evidence that german BB's don't suck, you won't convince me their strengths make them competitive with the current game. In saying that WHEN they do pen properly, the damage is amazing and yes they can citadel, but in my experience especially of late even post dispersion buff, which I firmly believe they tinkered with again because immediately after that buff the accuracy was great, it seems more like luck than good aim when you citadel a heavy target at medium range.
@gusp6612
@gusp6612 3 жыл бұрын
Skipper German BB has standard US BB dispersion with 1,8 sigma mostly, not the best, but certainly usable, and not inaccurate like French and Italian BBs. I’m done talking when you think German BB armor is useless. That’s literally the most stupid stuff I heard, coupled with you thinking you can tank 16” AP with KGV. Your personal bias against the German BB is so strong you literally ignored facts and logic.
@ringowunderlich2241
@ringowunderlich2241 3 жыл бұрын
Another hint would be to divide the firepower if necessary. Let the secondaries chew up a ship bow tanking, while using the main guns to shoot at targets showing more broadside. It also applies for opponent cruiser. The German secondaries can deal with a cruiser on their own, while the main guns may only produce overpens. So they are better suited to deal with BB's meanwhile. At the end it depends on the circumstances and the players flexibility.
@ScallywagBeowulf
@ScallywagBeowulf 3 жыл бұрын
I just recently unlocked the GK about a week ago now and I have loved the German BB line. Yeah, it is not in the meta at all (especially if you run full secondary builds like I do), but it is a LOT of fun. I think some people don't expect most GK players to still run secondary builds and have switched to tank builds. I've had a few surprised comments in games when my secondaries open up at 11.6 km and start chipping damage at other BBs and setting fires. Also, with 12 guns, the GK isn't the most accurate ship in the world, but it is nowhere as bad as it used to be. It's a very fun line (especially now that the FDG had been buffed as well with dispersion like the GK) and is not a terrible thing to grind if you are interested in secondary ships. Fuck the meta, I love the secondaries and have had great success with them.
@DracoDac
@DracoDac 3 жыл бұрын
Probably the best guide for the German battleship line.
@grant5758
@grant5758 3 жыл бұрын
The one thing I’ve learned about managing German dispersion is that if your secondaries cannot fire at it, aim for the main broadside. Only entertain the idea of going for the waterline when you are at least within secondary range
@nualanet
@nualanet 3 жыл бұрын
Love my German BB line! Lots of fun playing them.
@anthrax2413
@anthrax2413 3 жыл бұрын
I know I tried IFHE when grinding the FdG and the damage output of my secondaries increased massively. In some battles I'd get like 80k-90k damage with secondaries alone. Then I spent commander XP to respec my captain and I am lucky when I achieve 20k with secondaries. As for not taking early shots or picking concealment....there is just one problem with that: Carriers. Not only they will spot you early in the game but will also keep you lit forever. Carriers erase any attempt of positioning and trying to be stealthy in the game. It completely dumbs down the game. German BB can be fun, but the trade off for your "useful" secondaries are not worth it. Having awful accuracy and too many overpens for a gimmick that requires you a 19 points captain and forget about survivability is just not worth it. German secondaries should have Manual Fire dispersion by default to make them semi viable.
@liamfreeman1812
@liamfreeman1812 3 жыл бұрын
Anthrax man this IFHE not being necessary thing isn’t a personal opinion. It’s completely objective. If you were doing bad without IFHE on your secondaries that just means you were doing something wrong because if you’re not fighting an American bb, penetrating the 38mm threshold is completely useless.
@chrisfisher9085
@chrisfisher9085 3 жыл бұрын
@@liamfreeman1812on the FDG and Bismarck not all the secondary guns can pen 32 mm base because of the 105 mm guns on the Gneisenau and GK the secondaries are 128mm and can pen 32mm base so on FDG and Bismarck IFHE is a viable option to improve your secondaries especially since the smaller caliber guns fire almost twice as fast as the 150 mm guns and there are more of the smaller caliber guns increasing the potential DPM massively but obviously you lose the fire chance so one must pick fire damage with small damage amounts from the 150 mm guns or more actual damage from secondaries with less potential for fire damage.
@anthrax2413
@anthrax2413 3 жыл бұрын
@@liamfreeman1812 So, I have it and it does insane amounts of damage. I take it off and plays exactly the same, only with more survivability, and my damage output is cut down to 1/4th. Seems legit
@liamfreeman1812
@liamfreeman1812 3 жыл бұрын
Chris Fisher even so, the loss of fire chance is too big and the benefit is too small to take IFHE. Most t8 and above bbs have a 32 mm nose but the deck is thicker. Getting IFHE won’t suddenly mean your ship can pen everywhere and on other German and Russian bbs you’d still only mostly be penning the superstructure. Fires will give you more dmg than the secondaires will when fighting bbs and you don’t really need IFHE when fighting cruisers. Not taking IFHE makes even more sense if you’re grinding the German bbs and will be using that captain on the kurfurst. You would easily be getting more dmg without IFHE with double the fire chance even if you can’t pen bb noses. And if we’re talking pure dmg anyway, you wouldn’t even go for a full secondary build. You’d go tank instead.
@vandheerlorde6570
@vandheerlorde6570 3 жыл бұрын
@@liamfreeman1812 That is such bull. Fire chance you gain from not speccing IFHE is what you lose on shatters. Majority of the dpm on secondaries comes from 105mm. And most hightier ships you face at t9 have 27-32mm plating in most places. Especially cruisers.
@matthewwong944
@matthewwong944 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I've played this over 3 years ago but I got bored of it but I switched to console when it came out a couple years ago. Now I've started playing and in my opinion, german battleships have better dispersion here than on console lol.
@MrKiwi1960
@MrKiwi1960 3 жыл бұрын
Another great video, Thanks.
@MrKiwi1960
@MrKiwi1960 3 жыл бұрын
BTW, sound issues, my boy, you speak softly, then a LOUD burst of music... not good for my ears. :(
@sealordmountbatten
@sealordmountbatten 3 жыл бұрын
MrKiwi1960 that music was supposed to be toned down by 8 decibels, Shotcut(my editing software) apparently failed to render that portion of the video correctly, sorry about that MrKiwi
@MrKiwi1960
@MrKiwi1960 3 жыл бұрын
@@sealordmountbatten No need to say sorry, once I'd climbed down off the ceiling it was all good, apart from my cat who is so old, it took him a wee bit longer to get down. Just keep those videos coming... the only bad part is that I cannot play and none of them feature me, but the fact you do show videos of others others is great. Just keep them coming. :)
@ianfraser5371
@ianfraser5371 3 жыл бұрын
Just changed to this build on the test server so slightly different with the new commanders skills, but wow wow wow what a diffrerence as i like brawling, wish \I had found you and this sooner
@fatseadoggo1017
@fatseadoggo1017 3 жыл бұрын
'Hello good people of youtube' where's the 'mountbatten here'? who r u and what have u done to mountbatten jk
@EinApoStein
@EinApoStein 3 жыл бұрын
jk? B serious
@kofee2835
@kofee2835 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Mountbatten, I’ve been having problems with success on the tirpitz, I just can’t get those big damage number games... I would consider myself quite well versed on “orthodox” battleships, I’ve progressed through IJN and USS bb lines.
@billkotowski9584
@billkotowski9584 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I used to play my German BB's almost exclusively a couple of years ago. They were a ton of fun. Then the Worcester was introduced, and well the age of the machine gun cruiser and destroyer came into fruition of being the meta of the game. True secondary build ships as was once common, are completely situational in the current meta. By situational, I mean: survivable if your flank is not going up against a machine gun HE spammer, or if there is, that individual is either drunk, high, stupid, or a complete and utter potato. I've found myself forced to go a more of a modified zombie build in the current meta. I would love to see some additional changes to the game to make pure secondary builds more viable other than ships set up as meme builds or that occasional just for old times sake conditions. You said it correctly with your comment, hold your fire at the beginning of the game unless you have a shot that is just too juicy. If you're spotted and in range of an HE Spammer... you will be nothing more than an HP pinata for the reds until such time as you're either burned to the keel or no longer combat effective to the point where if a sea gull craps on your deck, it's game over. I think that WeeGee did right with their decisions to buff the German BB dispersion ellipse, and the changes to IFHE. However, I still think that HE and fire as a whole are broken mechanics in the game. I'd rather play in a game with double CV's than the current heaping helping of Smolensks, Colberts, Worcesters, Harugumos, and whatever the next ridiculously over powered soviet ship they find sketched on a balled up napkin in Stalin's smoking jacket pocket. Again, thanks for the video... subscribed and looking forward to more content.
@gusp6612
@gusp6612 3 жыл бұрын
Colbert isn’t that good Harugumo eat full BB AP pen Worcester suffered in open maps Smolensk is Smolensk. You can still either evade or shoot these ships. They can still be punished. While CV with their infinite planes will just strike you over and over again with impunity, and no counterplay.
@Cthulhuawake_
@Cthulhuawake_ Жыл бұрын
Could you do like an updated review of the different lines again? I just found your channel and enjoy them.
@monstertrucker2004
@monstertrucker2004 3 жыл бұрын
Im on the tier 5 german bb so this helps alot
@MrMoepz
@MrMoepz 3 жыл бұрын
Additional tip for Tirpitz and Gneisenau: Don't bet on your torp (launchers) they are made out of paper. Also, as far as I know the smaller guns on GK actually have better pen at less than 12km.
@doducduy96
@doducduy96 3 жыл бұрын
I run a hybrid secondaries/survivability build on my GK. PM, EL, AR, SI, AFT, FP, MSC. Full secondaries modules. My avg damage and survivability rate goes way up since I changed to this build from full secondaries build. Just did a 320k match yesterday with 130k dmg in secondaries and 75k damage in fire. GK is my most played ship beside the Republique. Never enjoy playing Kremlin
@Sotha42
@Sotha42 3 жыл бұрын
On my Bismarck, I go for another captain build to improve general survivability. Fire Prevention(Didn't do any fancy math if the added survivability gives me more impact than EM and BFT, but greatly increases the fun while playing Bismarck), Priority Target(Like to have that Info - enough DDs that give away when they Torp by targetting you with guns before&after) and Expert Loader(Spare point, IMHO more useful than PM) in, Preventive Maintenance (never seen my secondaries dropping significantly), Expert Marksman and BFT out (Of course, these skills would be a benefit. However, I find AR and SI superior). With modules, I also skipped secondary survivability for main gun survivability. Because again: Loss of main battery guns is in my experience more common and despite a secondary built your main source of damage.
@peteschupp4545
@peteschupp4545 3 жыл бұрын
In Wows legends they are just useless. They are armed for close Range but since all other ships are better in Long range you can‘t do anything because your whole Team will snipe in the background while you take all the damage
@shamrockshnake1366
@shamrockshnake1366 3 жыл бұрын
I think that's just because WoW legends is new and us console players still need to learn the game.
@droidmotorola3884
@droidmotorola3884 3 жыл бұрын
@@shamrockshnake1366 and you can't tell them anything because there is no chat.
@blimp2920
@blimp2920 3 жыл бұрын
Shamrockshnake the game is over a year old, it’s not brand spanking new. Mechanics are the same, learn from these guide. Legends secondaries are useless, the only capable German bbs has toros, everything else is weak compared to equal tier bbs.
@kmstirpitz4285
@kmstirpitz4285 3 жыл бұрын
I get good games in them all the time. What's the trouble with people? Do they just all suck at playing brawlers?
@peteschupp4545
@peteschupp4545 3 жыл бұрын
KMS Tirpitz the problem is that brawlers are useless when your team is just sniping
@celebriel8792
@celebriel8792 3 жыл бұрын
Hello there, thanks for the content. Does it worth it to buy the gold and coal commander for German BBs?
@obiwankenobaddie2734
@obiwankenobaddie2734 3 жыл бұрын
One at a time ladies
@Guhonter
@Guhonter 3 жыл бұрын
That opening Bismarck run tells all you need to know about german BBs: you went in as intended, received 20k dmg and did a staggering 1.600 dmg in return. You had to spend a repair, turn away burning and dodge a full torpedo spread. The engagement ends with 32k health lost despite a repair, having dealt a total of 2.300 dmg in 5 hits. With those shitty guns, the retarded dispersion and endless HE spam, why would anyone bother with german BBs in the current meta?
@Ph3NiX80
@Ph3NiX80 3 жыл бұрын
Because when u get in range and open with those secondaries, it’s the most fun you can have in Wow 😆
@smiIingman
@smiIingman 3 жыл бұрын
The way i do it with Bismarck and FDG is that i afk or crawl in 1st gear the first minutes so everyone can get in WAY before me and then i full speed into the fray at the well damaged enemy ships from an advantageous angle if one presents itself. Some times it ends horribly but more often now do i manage to get closer to at least 70k dmg per game.
@krin9437
@krin9437 3 жыл бұрын
It was one BB (Bismarck) against 6 other ships. You act as if it should have been able to handle that. 1,600 damage, granted, isn’t a lot. But we saw him fire like 5 salvos. And, again, since he was entirely outmatched by sheer numbers, he had to focus on running away to avoid the engagement.
@weabootrash5891
@weabootrash5891 3 жыл бұрын
Why would anyone play German BBs in the current meta? Because they’re fun, fuck the meta
@gusp6612
@gusp6612 3 жыл бұрын
Going in in the start of a match will wreck any ship. Some BB wouldn’t even live past that overextension.
@Leptospirosi
@Leptospirosi 3 жыл бұрын
I think there is a problem with selecting manual secondaries: I just had a game in Bismark where I entered a knife fight ) Litterally 10 meters away at max with an enemy Bismark. my secondaries did something like 2900 dmg in 30 seconds of fight because the stupid manual scondaries were trying to hit the centre of the enemy ship, AKA the main belt!!! I'm tempted to drop it for fire prevention because my ships really don't do much with secondaries per game: max 10K which is irrelevant for such a focussed and crippling captain setting
@alexstynen92
@alexstynen92 3 жыл бұрын
Hey there, great video as usual. One question though, does this secondary build also apply to the Scharnhorst?
@sealordmountbatten
@sealordmountbatten 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, but Scharnhorst has some of the weaker secondaries of the Germans
@chanisarmir5991
@chanisarmir5991 3 жыл бұрын
This is really good for me. I mostly play German BB's. I pretty much brawl in anything. Probably why I can't play DD's worth a damn. I think that I'm going to have to rebuild a few ships, lol.
@adambiczyk2453
@adambiczyk2453 3 жыл бұрын
For ez citadels just play this in background Preußens Gloria (Volvi's Bounce Remix)
@colinlook5237
@colinlook5237 3 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the Yuros H Class vid
@keelansandoval2888
@keelansandoval2888 3 жыл бұрын
I'm just stuck on the Freddy. The few games I have played in this thing is comparable to the French BB Lyon, but at tier 9. The Bismark was great for its class and can play well when up tiered, but the Freddy is just a pain to play. Any tips?
@axolotl957
@axolotl957 3 жыл бұрын
Great video of a great bunch of ships! Just wanted to comment on secondaries and IFHE. I believe the 105mm secondaries that Tirpits,Bismarck and Freidrich have pen 26 mm without IFHE. The glorious Kurfürst gets 128mm secondaries instead, bumping up the pen to 32mm. But all of the 150mm secondaries on all of these ships will pen more than 32mm. Godspeed you magnificent brawlers.
@nobblkpraetorian5623
@nobblkpraetorian5623 3 жыл бұрын
Which do you choose, IFHE or Manual Secondary? I never tried IFHE
@gusp6612
@gusp6612 3 жыл бұрын
Nobblk Praetorian why on earth would you get IFHE on a secondary that already pens 32?
@axolotl957
@axolotl957 3 жыл бұрын
@@nobblkpraetorian5623I choose manual secondaries first. Without manual secondaries you wont hit anything really, unless you are point blank. Cant say whether IFHE is worth for the 105s since I have never tried it. But i doubt it unless you have a 18+ point captain meme secondary build :)
@aztec5384
@aztec5384 3 жыл бұрын
@@gusp6612 Gk dont pen 32mm, yes it has a pen of 32mm but if your firing 32mm cannons at 32mm of armor they bounce or shatter not pen! so yes IFHE is good for GK
@axolotl957
@axolotl957 3 жыл бұрын
@@aztec5384 All secondaries on Kurfürst penetrate 32 mm of armor (or more) without IFHE. Therefore, you don't need IFHE to damage parts of ships with 32mm plating.
@Parobro
@Parobro 3 жыл бұрын
I miss hearing about the Tirpitz always when u say something about Bismarck. That’s sad that her sister gets just lost :(
@marcellorenzz9525
@marcellorenzz9525 3 жыл бұрын
You said that all of the secondarys from Bismarck can pen 32mm without IHFE, but if I remember correctly, the 105s can "only" pen 25 or 26mm, so there "could" be a point for IFHE (if you don´t like fires^^)
@baroncaledon5940
@baroncaledon5940 3 жыл бұрын
Thankyou dad for post
@landochabod7
@landochabod7 3 жыл бұрын
Imho from T7 onward taking Expert Marksman is a mistake on several German BBs: - Gneisenau has 36s 180° traverse, which is excellent (only high tier Soviet BBs have quicker turrets) - Bismarck, same - FdG, same as long as she takes Secondary Armament Mod 3, as you recommend - GK has slower turrets, so again EM becomes useful, but only here. If you don't take the skill, you can put one point on Priority Target and one on Fire Prevention or Concealment, instead of Basics of Survivability, which is kind of pointless if you have both Damage Control Mod 2 and equip the Dreadnought and/or Fireproof signals.
@DevineJelloPlays
@DevineJelloPlays 3 жыл бұрын
I disagree with the IFHE, if you're going to get the secondary reload module, all it's going to do is reload your guns faster just to shatter. I'd rather have my shells pen then have a 2.5% more fire chance, the fire chance isn't worth it imo. If you like brawling, you bow tank each other for a bit and if you have IFHE, it shreds their bow and that's what i like about it.
@Terrados1337
@Terrados1337 3 жыл бұрын
Great guide :) still the German BBs suffer heavily from the current meta. Worst part is having a completely passive team that will under no circumstances take advantage of breakthroughs or numerical superiority. There isn't much you can do except accept a mediocre result. Doing 100k bowtanking at 30km is nice and all but losing the match because you we're essentially behind the red line and didn't cap, not so much. Long story short: good video, german BBs fun but not meta
@shinkicker404
@shinkicker404 3 жыл бұрын
For slot 6 you mean Aux Mod 2, right? I kind of like the Legendary for GK myself.
@bruce3579
@bruce3579 3 жыл бұрын
I just got my gk just now while watching this 😁😁😁☠️☠️☠️
@thebeardedwarrior2222
@thebeardedwarrior2222 3 жыл бұрын
So what do you take first, adrenaline rush or MLG turrets?
@Grenadier-qg5ym
@Grenadier-qg5ym 2 жыл бұрын
It is a bit late but alot has changed, so what should i do as a gk now in a game? With the huge detectability range and short main battery firing range it is hard to not be spotted, long range i eat alot of pens and my accuracy sucks. So i have to wait to push until the enemy destroyer is dead but having potato dds in at least 50% of the games where they are either afk, travel to the corner of the map to get behind enemy lines, or smoking in next to our battleships without spotting the enemy dd survives normally until i am burned to the ground by conqueror, thunderer or light cruisers like smolensk or torped from behind by enemy dds. Should the enemy dd die thx to a miracle i still have to face enemy bbs camping at 25km distance with cruisers with torps halfway there... I feel like the chance to really use your secondaries nowadays is very situational
@saltyvanilla3304
@saltyvanilla3304 3 жыл бұрын
IMHO if u are grinding the line its not worth it to go full Secondaries, right now i'm at FDG (406mm) and i have PT, AR, SI, FP, MS and AFT, with Rudder and reload module, and i'm loving her, as long as u dont suicide and learn how/when to push she's great, u can swing the booty to shoot all guns and PT helps to dodge Torps when Hydro is on cooldown. Now, if u just wanna have fun then go full secondaries and do that, i do that on Tirpitz and PEF (even if i dont play them that much nowadays)
@damiandorhoff719
@damiandorhoff719 3 жыл бұрын
I like German Battleships. My Build include Adrenaline Rush, BFT, AFT, Manual Secondaries and CE. I am hoping for more German Battleships. When WG split the German BB Line and release a Battlecruiser Line. Those Ships could also fight a British Battlecruiser Line Ingame.
@calibanreborn4866
@calibanreborn4866 3 жыл бұрын
I think all old BB Lines suffer in some Games with the current Meta but the German Line is the most forgiving one. I like them, the secondaries and the turtleback make the difference in late game if you get closer. Nice vid m8, greetings from Germany
@thegreatbookofgrudges6953
@thegreatbookofgrudges6953 3 жыл бұрын
Aye fur Kaiser!
@coreycochran3983
@coreycochran3983 3 жыл бұрын
hay man the tier 5 germ bb is fun and i use it more then any of them is the fights are fun
@billwales4861
@billwales4861 3 жыл бұрын
HE spam is a 'thing' only because of the asinine spotting that is in the game. Hiding behind an island or in smoke because some other ship or plane can do the spotting allows the HE spammer to reign supreme. Ships spotted by another source should only show up on the mini map. This would cut down on the HE spam accuracy and the the complaint about spotting planes and CV's ruining game. If an HE spammer wants the accuracy then let them show their cowardly ass. The spotting in this game can't even be done with today's technology. The WW2 Bridge crew doesn't look out of the Bridge to see an enemy just because another friendly actually sees it. They get radio messages to plot on a chart table, not computer generated virtual reality images put on Bridge view ports to see out of the smoke or though the island as if they see target themselves. In this, the spotter gets to relay every ship, their courses, speeds, actions in real time. That's a real busy radio operator. Fix the spotting and HE spamming will go down and CV"s and their planes won't be so vilified.
@iloveaircraftforever
@iloveaircraftforever 3 жыл бұрын
You're wrong about Bismarck and FDG secondaries. Their 105mm guns can't pen 32mm armor but their 150mm guns can. IFHE is needed for those 105s to pen 32mm.
@doctor_alfa
@doctor_alfa 3 жыл бұрын
"Hood ... the prophecy ... must be fullfilled"
@stefannilsson2406
@stefannilsson2406 3 жыл бұрын
This is the first video that I have seen that mentions the fact that Yamato has a hard time going through GK's bow.
@obiwankenobaddie2734
@obiwankenobaddie2734 3 жыл бұрын
Any tips for my konig?
@masterd1612
@masterd1612 3 жыл бұрын
7:58 Would hydro mod 1 work as well there?
@gusp6612
@gusp6612 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah definitely
@kuninagako9035
@kuninagako9035 3 жыл бұрын
Its ok i like a hybrid build better 9.7km secondary and a accuracy build for them. Gk is the only one i build for full secoundarys but the others not really. Love fdg 245m dispersment is a monster with 420 guns great for citing every thing and i get more utility out of it if im unable to push which is 90% of games
@AHB91
@AHB91 3 жыл бұрын
I think the preventive maintenance skill doesn't apply to secondaries. Correct me if I'm wrong.
@StaK_1980
@StaK_1980 3 жыл бұрын
it does apply
@Leonard7
@Leonard7 3 жыл бұрын
@@StaK_1980 it doesn't the only way to improve your secondaries and AA guns survivability is through secondary armaments mod 1, in slot 1 of mudules
@theunknownone5990
@theunknownone5990 3 жыл бұрын
Preventative Maintenance only affects the chance of temporary incapacitation, not the health pool of the modules. Secondaries and AA mounts don't have a temporary incapacitation mechanic. If they're knocked out, they're gone for the rest of the match.
@henrikasikainen2704
@henrikasikainen2704 3 жыл бұрын
What is the intro song called?
@Kami-sama.isekai
@Kami-sama.isekai 3 жыл бұрын
Can you do a American light Cruiser guide?
@ateuloverivan_0077
@ateuloverivan_0077 3 жыл бұрын
yuro said fdg and gk is play sniper what should I choose
@Kanji_38
@Kanji_38 3 жыл бұрын
Hey this was posted on my bday lol
@mad_mexican9930
@mad_mexican9930 3 жыл бұрын
Tbh, if you want a non-premium ship line that plays aggressively, play Russian battleships. Unlike German BBs, who are meant to be played offensively on paper, Russian BBs actually get all the required tools to do so: very good concealment, their unique damage con, excellent armor protection and scheme, working main battery guns with a lot of bonuses to shell performance, good rudders and an innate resistance to fire.
@Poseidon-ve4vr
@Poseidon-ve4vr 3 жыл бұрын
Modern World of Warships makes me feel old. as a CBT vet.
@MrSpako13
@MrSpako13 3 жыл бұрын
Well im also a cbt vet that plays relative actively and i have to agree
3 жыл бұрын
All we had was USN and IJN good old days
@nathanmason3501
@nathanmason3501 3 жыл бұрын
Damn i really want that Bismarck skin
@AdViCro
@AdViCro 3 жыл бұрын
Nice guide but I heavily disagree with not taking fireprevention. Sorry to say but AFT is not worth not going for fire prevention, especially with that huuuuge ship and that meta right now. Every Smolly, DesMo, CV etc. will burn you complete before you are going be in 11.3km range. Less firechance, less fires possible etc. is worth those 1km secondary range.
@Bohdisattva326
@Bohdisattva326 3 жыл бұрын
Fire prevention is mandatory on all bbs
@TheKCaryer
@TheKCaryer 3 жыл бұрын
WHy concealment module? You want to close with your enemy if you helm a German BB because the long range fight is not your thing. Once inside secondary range, you will be visible forever.
@DeathsHood
@DeathsHood 2 жыл бұрын
It helps get just a little closer before everyone and their dog starts lighting you on fire with over-island HE spam, I guess.
@kevinr.1567
@kevinr.1567 3 жыл бұрын
13:42 nice sync WG
@ibnu9969
@ibnu9969 3 жыл бұрын
german bb has such a bad concealment it's more like an announcement than concealment
@ugurozkan3156
@ugurozkan3156 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@mokhtar___v
@mokhtar___v 3 жыл бұрын
grinding the german bb line rn almost gettibg the gneisenau
@REYNwashere
@REYNwashere 3 жыл бұрын
13:42 like please tell me that's just the replay camera acting up, or maybe the poor DD had an invisible bow
@sealordmountbatten
@sealordmountbatten 3 жыл бұрын
German technology at its finest actually, that match was recorded live and it isn’t a replay
@indigenous.rabbit2877
@indigenous.rabbit2877 3 жыл бұрын
The intro thing with the BB's sailing sort of looks rushed, maybe part of that has to do with the fact you used the same positions and maneuvers as with the american BB's. It also looks kind of janky, maybe recording messed up? Or maybe it has to do with the camera angles you chose ( a bit more top down view where with the US BB vid. the camera was closer to the water)? Amazing you did it nonetheless but maybe with next BB review you do take those things into consideration. And i'm sorry i don't want to sound rude, just useful feedback :)
@sealordmountbatten
@sealordmountbatten 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I was trying a couple of different camera angles than with the US BBs. We were also sticking with the formations and maneuvers that we were used to. I actually had more footage of the training maneuvers but unfortunately lost it. But thanks for the criticism!
@indigenous.rabbit2877
@indigenous.rabbit2877 3 жыл бұрын
@@sealordmountbatten srry again i only ment for it to be feedback but it maybe sounds a bit harsh
@sealordmountbatten
@sealordmountbatten 3 жыл бұрын
Indigenous.rabbit no worries man, it was good feedback
@indigenous.rabbit2877
@indigenous.rabbit2877 3 жыл бұрын
@@sealordmountbatten 👍
@cultureshock5000
@cultureshock5000 Жыл бұрын
do one for mackenson specifically an andrea doria
@Subha95
@Subha95 3 жыл бұрын
you should use FP too
@GrachLP
@GrachLP 3 жыл бұрын
Your commentary is pretty quiet, but the Intromusic ist very loud. Just a little critism :)
@alexpoggio6082
@alexpoggio6082 3 жыл бұрын
hei Mount, no shit! yesterday with my GK, yet my favorite BB. I did at 15km 37k to an enemy GK. 9 PENs, 11 out of 12 connected.
@emmaquarzpeng
@emmaquarzpeng 3 жыл бұрын
Love to see you shittalking in german when you take out enemy ships^^ Next time do it right: "Hallllloooo, guten Tag!" / " Auf Wiedersehen!" / "Tschüssikowski!"
@brysonstevens1431
@brysonstevens1431 Жыл бұрын
OH sweet memories when brawling was meta and Bismark was king.
@blakehoffer2800
@blakehoffer2800 3 жыл бұрын
Use big guns for Yamato gun sound
@matthijs628
@matthijs628 3 жыл бұрын
The Guns of the Bismarck are literally the worst. Even at close range, penetrating hits that deal no damage, idiotic dispersion from even less than 10km and citadel hits are rare. Since the German gun buff the F der Großße is much better even with the worse firing angles than Bismarck. I have very good games with it and I love that thing. And they also should do something about the overpen mania with Battleships, sometimes it can be absolutely ridiculous.
@BaileyBecca
@BaileyBecca 2 жыл бұрын
Wishing team mates would push with me
@Tapp.dergon
@Tapp.dergon 3 жыл бұрын
In the current meta of the game, one has to wonder what even is the point of playing German BBs anymore? Even if you have a team that's willing to push with you that's only good enough if they're able to hit or focus on anything. Plus WG keep coming out with HE spam cruisers and the Soviet ships that can tank better than the Germans and better guns... what even is the point... I feel like the GK has been power crept or at least that's what it feels like whenever I play the GK...
@ar1es778
@ar1es778 2 жыл бұрын
2:26 bgm pls
@captainironside3773
@captainironside3773 3 жыл бұрын
14:45 HANZ, ACTIVATE ZE TURBO!
@harvehd4928
@harvehd4928 3 жыл бұрын
how tf are you doing so much damage, like ill land the same amount of shots and its 1.5k each
@Subha95
@Subha95 3 жыл бұрын
1 thing all German BB need it improved secondary accuracy. I mean come on boh main gun and secondary inaccurate? makes no sense
@matthewrabel5035
@matthewrabel5035 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, without manual secondaries, the German secondaries cant hit for shit
@kuninagako9035
@kuninagako9035 3 жыл бұрын
The main guns are actually really accurate if u build it for a hybrid build (gk u can get away with out it ) my max cit is with fdg she is a monster for cits 15 cits in 1 game with a accuracy/secoundary build makes her vary strong 245m dispersment is low for a bb and she gets great disperment. They are best as a hybrid build right now so u can do long range shots but still push and brawl when u get a chance
@benedictodunsky2790
@benedictodunsky2790 3 жыл бұрын
@@kuninagako9035 what's the hybrid build again
@StaK_1980
@StaK_1980 3 жыл бұрын
This wasn't a guide for German BBs, it was just general tips and tricks. Also: yeah, the point of the German BBs, is to be targets. Your suggestion to fit secondaries, it sucks. I'd love to have it for secondaries. But sadly, the only tier that that might be useful is tier 7-8. Below that, not enough secondaries. Above that, everyone is a stand-back HE spammers...
@sealordmountbatten
@sealordmountbatten 3 жыл бұрын
You won’t really have the captain points for a secondary build until you get to Tier 7. I run this exact build on all my German BBs from Tier 6-10 and it works great, you can check my stats and see as much. Like I said, you have to be extremely aware of your situation in a German BB today and play smart to get the most out of the Germans
@StaK_1980
@StaK_1980 3 жыл бұрын
​@@sealordmountbatten yeah, the lack of skill points below t7... good point! I loved my secondary GoKu, but I grew frustrated with Wooster, Smolensk and Haragumo just melting me away from range. So I specialised into Survival. Then I gave up on the line entirely. Relying on your teammates in 2020's Matchmaking is a disaster waiting to happen. Sadly.
@josemaricuestadominguez4992
@josemaricuestadominguez4992 3 жыл бұрын
I had a question, i have GK legendary upgrade, should i mantain in or change it?
@Mr_Secondaries
@Mr_Secondaries 3 жыл бұрын
If you are using main guns as your main focus, then yes. It boosts your main battery reload. If you want faster main battery guns plus some boost to your secondaries, then yes. If you are going full secondary mode, then no because it gimps you by 5% rate of fire. Hope this helps!
@crazycar4015
@crazycar4015 3 жыл бұрын
Intro music: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gqvbiomllsiLnck
@tomaszlanski3295
@tomaszlanski3295 3 жыл бұрын
Where are those submarines ?
@jackychung6613
@jackychung6613 3 жыл бұрын
LOUD = FUNNY
@diesonne0127
@diesonne0127 3 жыл бұрын
Captain Skill Preventive Maintenance does not improve the survivability of secondaries or AA. wiki.wargaming.net/en/Ship:Commander#Preventive_Maintenance
@enfield3963
@enfield3963 3 жыл бұрын
I should have watched this before i sunk...
@MasterVideoStudios
@MasterVideoStudios 3 жыл бұрын
Screw that carrier for stealing Bismarcks Hood kill
@boebabips6717
@boebabips6717 3 жыл бұрын
105's have 25 mm pen not 32???
@sealordmountbatten
@sealordmountbatten 3 жыл бұрын
See pinned post
@vermas4654
@vermas4654 3 жыл бұрын
9:31 can I maybe borrow your luck for a few games?
@chewsandy3547
@chewsandy3547 3 жыл бұрын
Its still hardwork, when your teammates are total fresh potato that rush up to tier10 without even a slght idea what the ships capable of, thx to tons off freebies wg gave.
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