World of Warships - Le Klerberski

[@Sir_David_Beatty]

"...Scouting with his face instead of his eyes..." Best thing I've heard all day

[@SmerteLunefull]

Me too, but for me it's only 5.30 in the morning. ^^

[@grappo77]

Haha yeah, jingles do not ever change 😂

[@takruparrot9438]

Reminds me of some very ugly gnome def tanks in World of Warcraft.

[@zoecornish]

@@takruparrot9438 I wonder who that might be sonny lol

[@samuelelliott6498]

So it's Scott sterling

[@DCStudio397]

"zipping around at ridiculous speed and shooting everyone" sounds like a lot like a T-50-2 before physics were introduced into WoT ^^

[@Muck006]

Water doesnt have hills ...

[@nauticalvideos2506]

That thing was insanely fun, even after physics got introduced. Too bad it got removed.

[@DarkStar14n]

@@nauticalvideos2506 They re-added it and gifted it to everyone... But it is just not the same levels of fun anymore.

[@hebrewhammer4086]

@@Muck006 no but it has waves 😂😂😂

[@MetalMachine131]

Ahh good times.

[@tspencer227]

"Because when did an aircraft carrier catch fire in real life?" I started laughing before you even started throwing up the shots of the Franklin/ Oriskany/ Enterprise/ Forrestal/ etc. All of those got beat into our heads from boot camp onward as examples.

[@richardm3023]

Oh, the Forrestal fire. Or as some call it, "John McCain's handiwork".

[@tspencer227]

@@richardm3023 just stop. Take your fake news bullshit somewhere else, troll.

[@lordspacecowboy17]

Richard M, how was that McCain’s fault? A Phantom shot a Skyhawk that may have been McCain’s plane. Then the old ordnance caught fire. Was McCain supposed to get out of the cockpit and piss out the fires before the unstable bombs went off?

[@FolgoreCZ]

I think it might have been invented by the same guy who decided that ships are easilly spotted from the surface than the air.

[@lewisirwin5363]

Don't forget the Taiho!

[@FinlayDaG33k]

*slaps aircraft carrier* "This baby can hold so many fires"

[@crashgsxr750]

I don’t play world of warships I don’t play world of tanks So why do I watch these videos Because jingles commentary is just that good

[@petiertje]

Same here, I did play those games a lot but they (wg) have a way of ruining a good game and make it a terribly balanced mess tbh.

[@1987palerider]

Same

[@mooseman6374]

I would play them but I cannot due to computer problems. Jingles commentary is almost as good as playing the game itself.

[@Nerezza1]

Same. I watches tons of his videos before starting to play.

[@demosearies7591]

I mostly play warthunder. But jingles makes me laugh.

[@jakeelliott9648]

Dang! I finally get featured in a Jingles video after 6 years and it's one of my most embarrassing performances of the week! NOooooooo! I was in the Georgia on the opposing team :(

[@thankfulfool]

Looks like I've got to get myself a .. ..Midway. Obviously

[@HammondOfTexas]

Don't do it, go for Haku ;)

[@Todd209S]

Wargaming logic.... Players: This destroyer is a bit OP in regards to "A" and "B". Wargaming: Thanks for the feed back, we will nerf "C" and "D" to fix that.

[@Cailus3542]

Oh. Yay. Another max range HE spammer. Gee, Wargaming, this is exactly what we all wanted...

[@jtbrown51]

The entire game should just be called World of HE Spam at this point.

[@Ushio01]

Fire is how you kill BB's in anything not another BB. It's just how the game is. No torpedoes aren't an option. If you are hit by ship launched torps it's not that the ship torping you is good it's that your brain is underpowered.

[@HammondOfTexas]

Just wait for the Kolbert with it's 4x2 127mm ultra rapid fire cannons xD

[@427Arbok]

​@@Ushio01 Meanwhile, if you die to fires in a BB, it means you were trying to do your job.

[@francischambless5919]

Above tier VIII I basically moved away from BBs (this was already when I had Montana, Yamato, Kurfurst) once the british BBs and the ships like Worcestor came out. After that why play battleships? You can't move in or else you're burned down under 2 minutes, all the while plagued with terrible RNG on CAs just sitting there, or with competent players that do well enough to keep hidden when you aim at them.

[@flexrecons]

When jingles made the joke of defensive AA i was in tears.

[@ainumahtar]

Unfortunately def AA itself is the real joke >.

[@BPKPhoenix]

Bro, it was a hell of a joke! So yes, I cried tears too and laughed! But those tears were also genuine because AA is also a fuckin' joke and a half with a side order of fries and its 3 fries short of a happy meal.

[@thomas.02]

"the laugh is fake. only the tears are real"

[@Ned-Ryerson]

@@lukum55 It is, as the carrier, if determined, will not only get their strike home, but, unless terribly unlucky or stupid with plane management, also have a fresh squadron of some description at the ready immediately after having the last of their planes swatted by the def AA. These planes can then zoom in in the knowledge that the consumable is on cooldown. The CV rework is an utter failure, with WG just not willing to admit their mistake.

[@cinjonsmythe6318]

Ned Ryerson Amen! I actually liked the RTS style CV play. I made it up to USS Essex before the rework then saw the "improvement" and sold every single cv I had. Its still a clusterf*ck in my opinion

[@SecondSince]

The only balance WG cares about it the balance of their bank account.

[@blakeerickson514]

When you think about it, 100% of the carriers in the current Russian fleet have been put out of action by fires.

[@roughseas3455]

"When did an aircraft carrier ever catch fire?" **shows like five or six examples**

[@speed150mph]

Pfft, I know right? That’s far from conclusive. They all could have been flukes. I mean it’s not like they are filled with gasoline, bombs, rockets, and aircraft (often carrying the prior mentioned items in thin aluminum skin) I can’t see any possible reason for such a thing to happen. It’s like saying that. An 800 ft ocean liner could hit an iceberg and sink. Absolutely preposterous.

[@seafodder6129]

Hell, he could have just posted photos of the Oriskany, Forrestal, Enterprise, and Admiral Kuznetsov, And those are just the ones that had major fires during "peacetime" (not actually being shot at by the enemy) since WWII. Go home War Gaming, you've had too much vodka again.`

[@zoecornish]

@@seafodder6129 not enough i would say lol

[@kinghosed4261]

I mean, you've got 5 examples from just the Battle of Midway alone.

[@demosearies7591]

@@seafodder6129 I mean, all you need is a very small spill and the deck temp to climb above 114° f. Hapens to be the vapor point of high octane fuel and the point where a small spark can ignite said vapor.

[@thomaszinser8714]

Next thing we know, you'll be saying that our fathers were hamsters and our mothers smelled of elderberries.

[@theleva7]

Now go to the saltmines or he'll taunt you the second time.

[@1LRLRG]

don't forget the army boots

[@solanine9205]

What are you doing in England?

[@Spectacular_Insanity]

Kleber scouts by setting enemy ships on fire and making their detection range bloom when they fire their guns. :P

[@Chaser617]

I think the 'what is going on' with Wargaming is they are trying to cater to the Russian player base who apparently have a completely different way of playing the game from the EU and possibly NA servers and for the past couple years have been screaming at Wargaming on how there is an anti-soviet bias in the game becuse for their meta, the russian ships really aren't that great. And honestly the Russians spend more money on this game than I think we do so.....

[@thomas.02]

huh that made me very curious as to what the russian meta is

[@evanulven8249]

Anything to break the horrible stealth/HE meta is a good thing.

[@mindaugasstankus5943]

Nope, WG just took easy route: making models and skins and pushing them to “surprise mechanics" or similar stuff; not making fun, interesting and balance game.

[@neilbaird2789]

The simple solution would be to balance the ships the way that makes Ivan happy and only do it on the Russian server.

[@counterfit5]

I guess reality has a Russian bias too, considering their shit navy

[@macdjord]

In the Kii's defence - sure, he knew he was spotted by a destroyer. But he also knew that destroyer was a Kleber, which 'can't' stealth-torp anymore, so why should he worry about torpedoes~?

[@Capitainetim]

3:50 and now with the AA rework even the "AA cruiser" are no match for most of the base AA of BBs, the only difference being that BBs tend to lose a lot of AA capability at the end of the match because HE spamming and AA cruiser tend to implode instanly by "broadside"/"overmatch from the front" padelling

[@MoA-Reload...]

To be fair though there is that lovely overpen mechanic that let's so many cruiser players sail around broadside without a care in the world and the BB's just can't punish it until RNGesus says "OK, you can kill it now it's set 3 fires on you, blown off most of your AA and forced you to burn through 2 heals to keep what little HP you have left" 😂 Not disagreeing with you btw. Just pointing out that frustrating crap is a 2 way street in WoWs 😉

[@terot8341]

@@MoA-Reload... You descrived me playing Yamato. When you overpen proadsiding cruiser 20 on one game, you start questoning IS there any point of playing whole game anymore.

[@theogscoobydoo4265]

I actually stopped shooting broadside cruisers in Yammy, I wait for them to attempt to angle against me. This generally gives you enough "armor" that you won't overpen.

[@davidrobinson4553]

I don't think Wargaming know what Wargaming 2019 is doing, I'm totaly at a loss but just playing the game and being entertained by their antics and cunning plans, Some interesting observations Amiral Arriere Gingeles

[@korbell1089]

Jingles: "Because when did an aircraft carrier catch fire in real life?" *cough* Taiho *cough*

[@rampe5610]

*cough* Yorktown, Enterprise, Midway, Forrestal *cough* 😆😊

[@steveellis8746]

"zipping around at ridiculous speed" just like the 'veeled wehicle' EBR in WOT

[@NimbleBard48]

I haven't played WoWS for over 2 or 3 years now but I am still watching Jingles. It always amazes me how one person can have such knowledge about this game. Seriously...

[@iflystuff1]

every day i play WoWs less and less and every Jingles video I watch makes me realize that was a good decision

[@joeblack363]

Yeah I already stopped but I still enjoy his WoW videos

[@honnorgaurd]

Lol, you lost me at that moment of "when has a carrier ever caught fire" and spammed historical photographs of floating bbq's. Made my day XD

[@michaeld.uchiha9084]

16 km range HE spammer and they wonder why BBs camp and shoot HE themself.🤦‍♂️

[@cooleastrider3]

to be fair, that carrier on their team should of been capb of running down the klebar, but i think from what i seen in the video he went for BBs majority of the time

[@nimay13]

Kleber nerfs are justified. It's counter is basically the CV, even at that one would struggle to hit it. Don't forget that super fast torps too.

[@tonyengels1210]

This kind of scouting is called AGGRESSIVE SCOUTING lol

[@GhostEye31]

Recon by fire? Lol

[@Waddayatakamefor]

I miss the old Kraken Clip...

[@Ch4pp13]

Screw you, KZbin copyright system, claiming 20 minute long videos for 3 seconds of footage/audio.

[@kaderdebar2852]

Jingles, thank you so much for pointing out in a single video so many problems created by WG themselves recently.... When i see that replay (and shout out to that Kleber captain, amazing game!), I really wonder why I still play the game.... But I know exactly why I don't bother anymore and dont try to grind to high tiers! Like in wot, best tiers are between 4 and 7 now. Thanks to all WG changes!!

[@Keanu252]

"nerfed into Oblivion" *proceeds to do 120k to battleships with zero counterplay aside from carriers*

[@Snagabott]

It's not impossible to hit these buggers, but sadly you have to deal with the nerfed AP. Swapping to HE is usually a losing proposition too, unless you're British.

[@alextsui3309]

Fun fact: In the 8th minute, a Neptune destroyed a Massachusetts by burning. What it means is that it's secondaries set it on fire and killed it, wow

[@Masterchiefkf3]

Alex tsui as a Massachusetts player who loves his ship, seeing that filled me with a mix of rage and shame. Rage that a Neptune got so close without dying, and shame that the Massachusetts player allowed it to happen.

[@alextsui3309]

@@Masterchiefkf3 so true, it should have been the opposite

[@Pcwarmachine]

Well done Chris... good thing you found 2 noob BBs and 2 noob DDs. I won't count the Groz as he didn't have a chance.

[@Linkeh24]

There is some hidden utility in these kinds of destroyers, and that's in the tanking potential. These things are so quick and hard to hit, that you end up taking a lot of fire. Because every single shot that's fired at you is a shot that isn't aimed at your teammates, that drastically increases your chances of winning.

[@robbazk]

Exactly when i tought i ran out of videos to watch! Thanks Jingles!

[@viniciusdesouzamaia]

Wargaming really needs to get their shit together when it comes to carrier interactions.

[@StarkRaven59]

You really only had to stop at "together".

[@RustyWalker]

Ok. Thank Glod it's none of my potato games.

[@ElementZephyr]

So, Jingles, what you mean to say, is this French Destroyer is like a certain set of French Wheeled Light Tanks?

[@comradetashkent]

It´s more of a Tashkent than a Khabarovsk, because Khaba has to put up with a max range of 13.5km, Tashkent can reach 15.2km which is much closer to Klebers 16.3km. Additionally, Kleber has a stock range of 13.6km which is better than a full range build Khaba.

[@lesnainss]

14:28 Akisuki : "Did you get something wrong again, hooman ?

[@marcusallen2504]

that....erm....doesnt sound like a cat

[@nomis19821982]

cracks me up good editing jingles

[@amargasaurus5337]

Ah yes, we all know carriers never caught fire, that's why we don't worry about lighting matches in gasoline stations

[@anlize3422]

LoL, when Jingles said "Because when did an aircraft carrier catch fire in real life?" the first thing that sprung to mind were first and second Japanese carrier divisions xDD

[@ЛентяйЁпта]

What is selfish about a ship that draws enemy fire for like 10 minutes straight? It's the team that fails to capitalize

[@blueflames6961]

6:22 the Freddy got 2 floods. Don't change, Jingles.

[@rowanharding5347]

Father used to say, " if you are a turd and you have money, then that what you are a polished turd", thank you Jingles for reminding me of the English humour my Father had, two thumbs up

[@brilliantlysplendid]

Akshually Jingles, the Kremlin has a base AA rating of 100

[@5oclock_Charlie]

I guess you could say the Kléber was klébbed into the pits of nerfed hell, from which many are still trying to escape. okay I'll see myself out. thanks & good night!

[@mountainpass4255]

This reminds me of one of Jingles Kamikaze videos where he says. “ Knowing you’re about to be fucked and being able to do anything about it are two very different things.”

[@WeirdSeagul]

i feel like there is an over abundance of destroyer videos. oh well i still enjoy them

[@ThePerfectRed]

19:50 Whats the matter with that torpedo strike? I don't play carriers, why did it stray so much? I see this sometimes myself, evidently there is some mechanic involved.

[@DasReverend]

Didn't give the planes time to settle into the attack run and/or turned during the run. Sometimes you do it deliberately for the same reason you switch your torpedo launchers from narrow to wide spread

[@sleepygryph]

Don't forget the Khab also came out during the stealth firing period of the game, so it could shoot you from so far away that you couldn't see it

[@LucarioNN]

*French ship video* Bonjour here Monsieur Jingles. You are ze bold one

[@Hootkins.]

Me: Do you like playing cruisers or destroyers? Kleber player: Yes

[@stefanlanger8271]

19:22 my great uncle was on USS Forrestal when she burned, he was only a deck below where it reached (that image looks closest to it)

[@Chucky925]

Jingle's he's doing recon by fire.....😂😂😂

[@lancevandyke3265]

The replay bug messed with my brain. My jaw dropped when I thought he got deleted 😂

[@thetankcommander3838]

“You’re basically just polishing a turd”? Wow! I at least thought Jingles would say that about the Kreml! Not the Kléber! Ohhhhh boy. Someone get the Physics & Realism guy on the phone! And then after that, call 06Wallst!

[@Kilen_BE]

One of the funniest ships in wows, it’s tricky but extremely tense and fun to play Kléber, I love that ship (such as Le Terrible, Tashkent, Mogador even if mogador lack a bit of firepower imo)... the only one I dislike is the Khaba. Bcoz it remains too slow compared to Kléber and players have not such hard time hitting Khaba these days. But Kléber is definitely a must have, it’s so cool to carry games in this thing. ❤️ GG btw, very well played 👌

[@justanotherviewer52]

Thanks Jingles.

[@deanspanos8210]

Great video on friendship. No auto-correct, I meant friendships. For the love of--

[@PaulFurber]

To be fair, Chris is also a bloody good shot.

[@christerprestberg3973]

The CV immune to fire thing is a part of my main gripes with the CV revoke, they utterly removed the CV vs CV interaction, no real fighters, CV's repair party is godlike so no point in losing half your aircraft to land 1 strike, other then dropping fighters over friendly DD's there is no interaction between opposing CV's.

[@Maddog3060]

I see the wine and baguettes are back.

[@arkadikharovscabinetofcuri3465]

I think they’re learning from the Blitz version, in which DDs are king and no one is scared of the Yamato

[@dther6314]

Kleber is now the EBR of Warships

[@captainloggy140]

Now it's the Kléberovsk. I think the main issue with stealth DD play and their weakness to Radar and Sonar is the lack of any Fog of War mechanic. Sonar can quite well identify a vessel (at least nowadays), but even the most modern systems sometimes have trouble determining the distance. Radar is quite bad at identifying what exactly is there, and early systems had trouble seeing stuff in front of islands. A step-by-step identification (enemy, type, class) like in RTW would help immensely on the realism and balance of visibility in this game.

[@terranceroff8113]

I am currently grinding FXP just as fast as I can manage to hopefully pick the soon(tm) to be introduced tier X IJN DD.. you know, the one with a base 37 knot speed, twin 5 tube torp launchers, option to take TRB instead of smoke, and much improved duel purpose 127's with a 4 second refire delay. (Ya know, kinds of a Super Yugumo!) but yea driving DD's these days is rough.. But I have learned.. drive BB's like cruisers, cruisers like DD's, and DD's like BB's and you'll be fine.. totally historically accurate!

[@theranchbandit6548]

To quote The Mandalorian, "This is the way."

[@blakwolf37]

who else watches jingles for the funny commentary...dudes hilarious

[@gavincox8697]

They've made an EBR 105 that can float !

[@theScottishKoala]

Last time I was this early I hadn't thought of a joke about how early i was...

[@thankfulfool]

Damn that's good

[@NotTheRookie]

Only you can prevent Forrestal fires

[@Hassy171717]

+1 for the extreme sarcasm at 19:15!

[@thomas.02]

i never understood why aircraft carriers couldn't be designed so they're highly resistant to enemy aircraft but rather vulnerable to surface ship fire. if your carrier player is dumb enough to get caught by surface ships then the carrier deserves to take damage, or it's the end of the game now and carrier survival really doesn't matter.

[@Del_UK]

Congrats, World of Warships has a floating EBR-105.

[@sgtrpcommand3778]

So I guess in the new meta wargaming wants DDs to stop capping and leave that to the inevitable submarines?

[@efraim3364]

the Le Terrible has the same issue, can be seen from space but its fast as hell and very hard to pin down

[@stanmarche7971]

As a CV player (pls don't kill me now), I totally agree that they are pretty OP in the current meta. Their damage potential is huge, they can hit anything and hurt it badly, all the while having pretty good chances of survival (thx automatic repair party that reloads faster than light). I wonder how WG could balance them with the current gameplay because believe me, same tier and higher tier AA do hurt airplanes. So much so that if I want to have planes at the end of the battle AND help my team vs the most dangerous targets, I have to use slingshot, purposefully waste one charge of my squadron. Just if you wonder, second charge will conduct the attack while last gets shredded to pieces, no matter what. I don't have any tier X CV, I can't speak about them. But get a tier VI CV in a tier VIII fight... Boy, you'd better know bloody well what you're doing if you want to do anything... However, despite these drawbacks, it is clear that a top tier CV commanded by a semi competent player will utterly dominate the match. That has to change, because it ain't to much fun for the guys on the receiving end... The question is how to balance them ? Increase AA damage or reduce planes HP ? Then CVs'll get irrelevant as you'll lose all your planes reserves after 2 or 3 outings with each squadron type, even more than with the old system. Balance the damage they inflict ? Maybe, but when you look at it, a single bomb or torpedo doesn't deal that much damage (except AP bombs landing on your citadel). Take their accuracy into account and the maneuvers that the target can take, in fine, you wouldn't deal much damage (all that at the cost of a lot of planes). Do you have any ideas ? And don't you dare to tell me rEmoVe cV: they are a part of the game as much as any other ship, have historical significance and are also a balancing factor against certain ships !

[@grahambrown3519]

The problem WG faced is that CV’s ended naval gun combat in real life. How do you balance that. In theory a CV should not even be on the map in the first place but if engaged by almost any surface combatant is basically a pretty immediate kill. The worst decision they ever made was including them in the first place. Having done so they cannot remove them and will now have to live with the fact they will never properly balance them either the CV will feel impotent or godlike as on one hand it can see almost anything and strike almost anywhere whereas the alternative is to extend plane reloads etc and make the gameplay for the CV player really dull.

[@peterjohansson1828]

One change that might help would be to increase the time between an attack (for example dropping torps) and the attack actually hitting. Torps would have longer safe area after being dropped and bombs would have a longer fall time. Idk if that would work for rockets but perhaps those could replaced with interceptors/fighters that could damage enemy planes rather than ships

[@sandrobotticelli1337]

Maybe don't touch the planes at all, bring back manual control of the ship from above(or in some other way to make players more focused on survivability and not 100% on offense) , and make its survivability non-existent in close combat and especially BB shells. Most players anyway just hug the corner and spam planes, just make them easier to kill in close quarters combat in the end of the game ffs. The one problem with the old system was the skill gap, a noob in CV would be almost useless, a unicum would be a war god. And because MM does not take into account player skill/exp/WR%/something similar and you have 1 or 2 CVs per match, that skill gap made ALL the difference , the bigger the skill gap was between opposing CV players, the more lopsided the match was. Now, they could have balanced the gap between skill floor and skill ceiling in the context of old gameplay BUT, they didn't saw that as a solution to all their problems. They wanted to address one other thing with a same rework, and that was a very small CV player base which they thought was a style of gameplay issue and i would argue it was more of a "I 5 match a week CV player have no incentive to play CV anymore, cause 1/3 of the time I end up against the super unicum in OP CV (read: saipan with T9 planes, top. kek.) who i have to watch for the next 10 minutes as he completely diminishes my influence on the game and wins it for his team by him self". I was a free to play CV player with almost 80% WR in randoms, and still couldn't do shit against unicums in saipans lol. So they made a rework going balls deep and "scouting" with their faces as Jingles says and made a glorious piece of turd that no one knows what to do now with. I would also argue that the old system in its core was excellent, definitely needed tweaking, but the fun was there for the sufficient number of players to get 1-2 CVs almost every game. But they just had to fuck things up completely... Sry if my english wasn't good.

[@MoA-Reload...]

Either back to hard cap limit on the number of planes in the hanger(except that would basically hobble CV's badly and result on deplaned CV's sailing to their death forgetting their ship is still worth points) or dramatically increase the turn around time for strikes or provide unlimited DFAA and invulnerable AA mounts. I'd really like to see them change DFAA to apply a "suppressed" effect to the CV player to make it much harder to strike through similar to the effect of being suppressed in Post Scriptum. Suggested it quite a few times on the forums, dev streams and community manager streams since CV rework was first in public test but not a hint of anything like that so meh, guess spreadsheet says otherwise 😂

[@stanmarche7971]

@@grahambrown3519 You may have a point about the inclusion of CVs in the game but then again, as you say yourself, now that they are here, we have to find a way to balance them. And they may be ! Old CVs were indeed godlike in unicum hands. However, I have vivid memories of planes literally dropping down from the sky when you focused them. It may have been random but you had more a sense of accomplishment and involvement as you do know...

[@ZaffaPlaysGames]

At least the Kleber still has those fast torpedoes with fantastic angles & main battery reload to distinguish it from the Russians. Sort of. Khaba can't ambush worth a damn.

[@naggarond]

3:43 defensive aa is a joke...... Hmm * laughs in wooster * 😂

[@ELCADAROSA]

One thing that has always puzzled me has been why detection by aircraft isn't greater than by ship. Aside from simple game mechanics, it would seem that detection by aircraft that can see far greater "should" be farther than detection by surface ship.

[@DasReverend]

Because then everyone would be perma spotted from the jump

[@Bajie_Smuggler]

Yep, would break the game completely and dds wouldn't leave the spawn.

[@TrickiVicBB71]

I did double take to when I saw the Hindenburg health bar disappear. "Oh no the Hindenburg has been sunk. Just the CVs now." Nope just a replay glitch as Jingles said

[@bigoozz]

There is still a lot of french about Kleber, it still moves 4 times faster while going backwards and running away.

[@yuxinyang928]

Ladies and gentlemen, here we present the wheeled vehicle equivalent in World of Warships.

[@Obsulus07]

Somebody get Claus. They've turned a ship into a *Veeled Wehicle*...

[@Classicman_269]

This will be a great sub hunter at top tier.

[@evanulven8249]

Kleber, like the Horrorgumo and Khaba, isn't a destroyer. It's a light cruiser in the DD tree that does a better job as a CL than actual CL's.

[@Warentester]

It's called "reconnaissance by fire" I'd say Kleberski is the only DD who should really enjoy playing on the map "Ocean"

[@fernandomarques5166]

Aka aggressive recon

[@DasReverend]

You can do it in a kaba too. Any thing that can do 42 knots or better and has more than 15km on the guns will do pretty well in the role

[@Dysphoricsmile]

When Jingles said "WG nerfed the health of Kremlin's already terrible AA..." I hope tha was sarcasm as well - Kremlin has the BEST AA VALUES IN THE GAME! Longest long range aura, most DPM on that aura of ANY ship, most flak bursts, and COMPARABLE Mid and short range AA to Montana, making its AA INSANELY BETTER THAN EVEN MONTANA!

[@johnparker1696]

It's like trying to hit a Panzer IC in with a Battleship

[@n4rut089animereviewer]

Playing the french navy the manly way instead the stereotype french way, reminds me of Eddie Izzard's skit on the american view of the french because Gen. Lafayette.

[@mikestion4629]

Local Kleber Transforms Into A Crumb of Toast

[@michaelmize1155]

Been on a burning carrier as I was on the Nimitz when 14 died after a landing accident.

[@ussgrisham]

But Jingles from a naval history stand point didn’t the introduction of aircraft and carriers spell the end of traditional big gun warships anyway? Much like the advance of firearms technology with rifled barrels and mini ball bullets ended the long standing (no pun intended )Napoleon style of army’s lining up to take shots at each other?

[@prisonerofthehighway1059]

Dennis Ivan - this is more or less the case. The thing a Battleship is almost perfect for is covering troops for an amphibious landing. The tonnage of ordinance on target from an Iowa class just can’t be matched. Replacing it with a combination of aircraft and missiles works but it’s stupendously expensive. Plus we’re developing GPS guided “smart shells” for the 5in guns. The same principle could substantially increase the range and accuracy of big naval rifles. I think we should have 2. Modern, nuclear powered battleships with enough C&C equipment to lead its own battle group. I’d put 1 on each coast, attached to it’s own dedicated reserve station. That way they exist in a constant state of semi activation. Cuts costs but the ship never really sleeps, which is when the majority of deterioration happens. Plus you get a group of sailors training and maintaining the ship year round. Just my 2 cents.

[@festungkurland9804]

@@dennisivan85 the problem there is a small ship like that is uncomfortable at sea and has limited range. simple can be good though.

[@DasReverend]

@@dennisivan85 we have trouble crewing the ships we do have and modern warships are heavily automated, so the crew requirements of an Oliver Perry class frigate is two thirds that of a Ticonderoga class aegis cruiser. Smaller ships are ironically more manpower intensive than big boys these days

[@jedimasterknobei]

seems like Wargaming is taking the Taffy 3 approach to CVs vs. Surface Ships

[@eddierudolph7694]

I'm surprised that you have not done a review of the British heavy cruiser line or the British destroyer.

[@bobberttv8565]

What happening at 14:29 jingles😳

[@Seahorn_]

Something tells me that you really, really really want to join the French navy........ Happy Brexxit Jingles :D

[@justinstephenson9360]

No, No, No! Jingles is ex-Royal Navy. The entire purpose of the Royal Navy is to sink the French Navy on a regular basis - that has been our policy for the last 600 years, why change!

[@Wolfeson28]

@@justinstephenson9360 Or, as Drachinifel would put it: using the French Navy as an expanded RN fleet reserve.

[@dakkenblah1450]

I thought sinking the Spanish navy was what the Royal Navy was for

[@justinstephenson9360]

@@dakkenblah1450 I think that is what is called a bonus! But no the policy objective is always to sink the French navy, even when technically they are our allies

[@sjakierulez]

@@justinstephenson9360 True, even when they are your ally in a war you just have to sink some French ships

[@sindart]

Wow legends is where its happening

[@saffer3713]

Hey jingles, the khaba bring something to the team, a distraction, u annoy players to shot u and miss, and a salvo wasted on u is good for the team HP... Thats how i use them