World of Warships - Mac and Me

In which Aetam finds himself in an episode of A Game of Throws thanks to his good friend Mac.
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[@Aetam]

Thanks for featuring the replay! i am still laughing when I think about that sub ram.

[@dmoore4788]

Who the hell runs a Ramming Flag on a DD?! As well played as it was unexpected. LMAO!! 👍🏼

[@skipsterable]

Actually I am like you are run the ramming flag on my DDs, you just never know.

[@Aetam]

@@skipsterable Always wear protection!

[@jaywerner8415]

@@dmoore4788 I mean WHY WOULDNT you run a ramming flag on a dd? you are the fastest torpedo in the game after all.

[@UNSINKABLEII]

Love your work Aetam!

[@tacitus6384]

That Nelson player also waited until the rapid-firing gunboat *stopped firing* before it resumed firing again, before he decided to change course. He knew that gap in firing from those rapid fire guns meant that the DD had used that time to aim and release torpedoes, so he was completely changing course to avoid them. Smart.

[@stiimuli]

That torp dodge at 13:10 was damn impressive. Thought for sure he was dead.

[@raideurng2508]

GAS GAS GAS

[@samilsonal4801]

first class maneuver...

[@primaltempest9218]

The 1 second of the CV picture was amazing.

[@OneBiasedOpinion]

Had me rolling. I don’t even play the game, but having watched Jingles for years I knew EXACTLY what he was referencing!

[@spocky7305]

To be fair to the Mackinson player, the CV may have been focusing him as a priority target because he could find and attack a Battleship easier than a DD or another CC. So I can see it from the Mackinson, on low health, recognizing he might be doomed and trying to take the Caraciolo down with him at least.

[@mordicuspb]

Jingles is getting toxic, calling kids dumb-asses

[@indisputablefacts8507]

I definitely support the Mack captain's choices. He's in a battleship, he's the only thing the red CV is going to target. He's *going* to be spotted, he's going to be targeted, and he's *going* to be sunk and there's nothing he can do to change that. Both he and the red BB know this because they've played this game for more than half a minute. There is no backing off in that scenario. Doing as Jingles suggest he should is just adding to the CV's XP total and taking away from his own.

[@johnnyenglish583]

I agree, he actually saved the day. He did lots of damage to the enemy BB and set it on fire. Without it, the Mackensen would have gone down to the enemy CV and they would have lost. The enemy BB had too much health to be sunk by the friendly T6 carrier alone.

[@Nicholas_Burmeister]

Agreed. That's the problem sometimes with Jingles, he misses some stuff like that. The CV would have spotted the Mack without the italian BB's help. Knowing that, what would YOU do with what's basically the last 3 min of the game with a nearby nearly dead BB?

[@BreadApologist]

@@Nicholas_Burmeister Ya, typically seems that in a situation where you know your gonna get killed, might as well do as much damage to the enemy before you go. Im absolutely terrible at wows but if I know im dead either way, might as well go out all guns blazing. Though, just had a match in my Yamato, as im crap at it only did 100k ish dmg n sunk 5 ships, got down to 7k hp no more heals. 2 enemy ships and 1 firendly kurfurst left. I started retreating, but got off one last salvo on the enemy bb for maybe 4k but it helped the kurfurst sink it before it to died. we were then ahead on points and the dying salvo from the last bb hit me. Was down to 107hp chased by a shimakaze. Fortunately I was able to hide behind some islands just long enough to run the clock n win. Was one of my best games to....as normally im 10x worse than that.

[@sabre0smile]

If BBs are getting planes, when is Warspite going to get her swordfish support! Hers ACTUALLY sank something!!

[@natethenotsogreat8349]

And it was a U-boat too!

[@1984Phalanx]

I sometimes think of that movie Galaxy quest when they're flying through a minefield. "Could you possibly try not to hit EVERY SINGLE ONE!?"

[@ZGryphon]

Similar situations always remind me of that one Top Gear clip with the shopping cart obstacle course. "Does he HAVE to hit absoLUTELY everything?"

[@leeshackelford7517]

GQ ...a great movie spoof

[@Self-replicating_whatnot]

On the subject of submarines - they were never effective against ships actively manuvering during combat. That's what "fleet submarine" concept was supposed to accomplish, and it was a miserble failure whenever anyone tried to build and use one, both in WW1 and WW2. In other words - submarines have no place during WoWS match at all, they usually ambushed their quarry in port or while cruising.

[@ainzooalgown7589]

WG: how dare you use FACTS AND LOGIC.

[@montro2220]

World of Warships is an arcade game and not an accurate naval warfare simulator... So WG can do whatever they please with it, and make - (try to) extort - money from it.

[@mindaugasstankus5943]

​@@montro2220 Arcade... each passing day WoWs more like WoW. Arcade or not WWII-ish warship game should not take rule set from pure fantasy games.

[@montro2220]

@@mindaugasstankus5943 tell that to WG... they - probably - won't listen but you can tell them. **Yedi hand wave** I'm not the p*ssingpost you are looking for.

[@clefsan]

WG are among the greatest disciples of the Sunk Cost Fallacy currently alive in the world. They've put resources into making submarines, so they are not going to remove them from the game, no matter what anyone tells them or what arguments are presented. Personally, I think Submarines can be a fun addition to the game, BUT only in a dedicated game mode (maybe some version of the convoy mode WG has been playing around with), not as part of random or ranked battles.

[@ajmage5319]

'no fun for the submarines' oh my heart f'ing bleeds for them.

[@korbell1089]

Jingles:"I did not promise it would be a good thing!" Don't worry Jingles, that chortle you gave off when you first mentioned the Mackensen told us exactly what type of show we would get from him!

[@jannegrey593]

Torpedobeat was fantastic. Almost as good as Duke of York taking ALL of torpedoes on the chin.

[@raideurng2508]

They're homing torps so it wasn't like he could dodge them. Another retarded mechanic of subs.

[@bovke2174]

Just one by one dude 😂

[@montro2220]

Nice match, loved the suicide of the U-boat on the DD. He tried to make a really big torpedo out of his boat 🤣 And loved to hear Akizuki in the video once again, have been missing her contributions. 13:12 Torpedobe... - Jingles... what are you doing with that shotgun?

[@sozetsukokai9327]

jingles, it's not about making every class viable against all the others. it's about making another ship class for the griefers and trolls

[@hcollins1259]

You know it’s late in the States when you get a Jingles video notification lol

[@JoshCreepa]

You also know it’s late in the States when you say Jiggles instead of Jingles. Unless that was the point of your joke, in which case well played.

[@hardcase722]

I love when I get jiggles notifications late at night

[@_ZenMF]

With it

[@UNSCrearadmiral]

Good thing I was robbed of my nights rest anyways

[@rileychu4489]

or early. some of us like to enjoy the morning daylight and go outside lol

[@Tearnofear]

i once had 32 (!) depth-charge hits on ONE Sub. And i wasnt even the only one dropping. It finally died though tbf, about the Mackensen: it's pretty hard to run from a CV if he exactly knows where you are. Imho the End was telling it. It was a Decision of seconds if it was the right thing to try and sink the italian BB. Mind you, if he got sunk by the CV while running the other BB wouldn't have died.

[@SlavicCelery]

*Jingles* "I don't know how I'm going to top that WOT video yesterday" *everyone* "Yeah, that was a pretty good one" *Cat in background* "MEOW" ....and he does it again!

[@SpaceGhost1984]

One time, I was in a Preussen and caught a sub on the surface within 10km. I targeted him with my secondaries, dropped depth charges, and fired my main guns. Numerous secondary hits, 4 depth charge hits, and 2 overpenetrations from my 457mm guns later... and it survived the battle.

[@Tearnofear]

i once had 32 (!) depth-charge hits on ONE Sub. And i wasnt even the only one dropping. It finally died though

[@mudman619]

to be fair to the Mackensin player, he had already been engaged with the Spaghetti BB while there were multiple ships still fighting & alive & the game was still in doubt. It wasn't until a quick series of kills that he found himself needing to disengage. Also, once a CV decides that a BB is going to die, there's not really a damn thing the BB player can do about it - and the CV would've spotted him no matter what - so firing or not firing made zero difference. But yes, he should've disengaged immediately with the Spaghetti ship when it became obvious it was to time to run, but either way, he was going to die bc the OP cancer CV had decided he was going to.

[@fatseadoggo1017]

"A country famous for Mozart, Arnold Schwarzenegger and Adolf Hitler" To be fair, that is what mostly comes to our minds when we think of Austria

[@silentmoniker]

Glock and steyr arms come to mind for me

[@malusignatius]

It's a long way from 'Paris for the dirty-minded', which is a restrained version of how Vienna was seen before WW1.

[@doctoremil2678]

Also the Habsburgs and their genetic problems.

[@wierdalien1]

@@doctoremil2678 that's spain

[@TheStefanskoglund1]

@@doctoremil2678 hmmm that was the spanish branch!

[@thomasbernecky2078]

What a pleasant and unlooked for surprise! Three of my favourite (and I must say, still greatly underrated) players in one game; someone must have made sacrifices to the Goat Gods? Many thanks Jingles.

[@ThadonutRs]

Ah yes, Mac and me. Truly the superior ET film

[@gregmills8665]

I clenched so hard during that torpedo dodge I nearly ruptured something

[@forrealtho546]

You didn’t have to start like that my guy. Literally killed me 😂😂

[@scott2836]

I had a game recently where I ended up defending our CV and cap in my Montpellier from a very determined Sub player. I got 22 hits with my 6” HE shells on the sub before he killed me. But subs are balanced…

[@luke_3_113]

Aetam's stuff is great, I think, well worth checking him out... Realism in this game sailed a long time ago!

[@gulaansiktet]

"Moving on swiftly" You loveable man.

[@cryptobox128]

“…and they actually have no idea how to balance something…” Tears of laughter rolling down my cheeks.

[@floko3604]

Austrian WoWs player here, thanks for the best introduction of our country in a long time :-D

[@korohacker]

I saw the adorable cat paint on the ship, and froze for a few seconds. Such a whiplash of emotions xD

[@lsumd2011]

Goddammit Jingles I damn near fried my keyboard with tea at 7:41. Bless and curse you for that image.

[@57thorns]

But Jingles, the RDF (Radio Direction Finder) use radio emissions sent from the ship it detects. Last time I checked, submarines underwater did not use radio. (well, technically they might use some very low frequency radio, but hardly in the middle of a wwii-ish era battle)

[@The_MightyJingles]

Sure, and radar isn't a magic spell that can see through islands and the Radio Location skill DOES say it points to the nearest enemy, detected or not. Again, you won't get very far in World of Warships applying logic and common sense to things.

[@57thorns]

Sonar on the other hand... and your point about over pen is definitely valid.

[@Frixworks]

The highlight of your videos is always trying to find Akizuki meowing in the background :)

[@navghtivs]

To be fair to the Mackensen, if he did not attempt to kill the enemy BB, but still got killed by the enemy CV, then he'd really look bad.

[@TrueCanad1an]

Glad to see your a friendly gamer Aetam

[@dangertrebor]

"One of the dumbest things I've seen in WOWS"...que up all of the captains ready and willing to one up the Mac.

[@dryalga4000]

When Jingles confused Akatsuki with Akizuki: "oh Jingles......"

[@magnum6763]

I think the Mackensen was doing that on purpose. Why else would he switch to HE before he died and not kept firing AP

[@QW-xi4xj]

It might be the vino I consumed before, or the effects of too much sun, but I think this is the first time I have walked away from one of your replay videos thinking "what the hell did I just watch". Which considering the normal level of C&A party you show, says a lot.

[@jeremywilliams4381]

Jingles, I am old enough to know your Mac and Me reference. Haven't seen that movie in over 30 years.

[@DarthRaijiin]

Dude, this replay was a fucking rollercoaster!

[@seangunn4772]

"Charging down a submarine in a battleship is a terrible idea" New York and Texas in WW1: "Are we a joke to you?"

[@DraftySatyr]

Thanks for the perfect video to ensure that I don't go back to WoW. Yes, I know it was never a simulator as such, but the current 'innovations' take any semblance of reality out of what used to be a fun 'lite' ship vs ship game.

[@jamesscalzo3033]

Loved the video @The Mighty Jingles! Can't wait for the next video man! Torpedobeats are just awesome to see, especially if it's a Big Slow Target like the Friedrich der Größe, Größe Kurfurst or maybe the Pommern, Mainz or Ödin. Just ask @Daniel Rusev, He's done Them in most of these Ships and uploads them as Part of his "World of Warships Funny Moments" Series. World of Warships players: Pulls Torpedobeats and Dodges Torpedo spread Me every time I see this: *Any Song from "Initial D" starts playing in the Background* "Running in the 90's, It's a new way of life to be! I'm just Running in the 90's...."

[@mwishart220]

It's been FAR too long since we've heard from Akatsuki! Hope she's doing well in the new home!

[@MonsterWare1]

I was waiting for the video so I can take mi morning coffee. Thanks jingles

[@therealcrisis8439]

Some Days, I watch a Jingles Video and think to myself: "Dang, I want to play Wows again to maybe have a similar experience as this!" Today is not one of those days.

[@ghyuu_again]

that 7:41 was so subtle I thought I was watching a 2 ton ninja sneak into a drum factory

[@Zinmar]

I stopped playing this game but I enjoy your videos showing the game.

[@riquelmeone]

Your Austria insight made me think of a Billy Wilder quote. The Austrians are brilliant people. They made the world believe that Hitler was a German and Beethoven an Austrian.

[@Jesnah]

wow, the commentary was on point with this one

[@marcinpl1301]

loved that hidden Fight Club style flash featuring a giant ... ship

[@KPen3750]

the reason his shells *seemed* to pen but only do 200 damage was because of the blast effect. The shells never actually hit the sub, but because they landed near the sub and exploded, the blast radius in the water is what damaged the sub. And there isn't a ribbon that says "Blast radius hit"

[@thegreenfather1978]

I saw the thumbnails and thought "Neat, finally a gameplay video of the Harekaze II !" Nope, wrong ship...

[@mhindriksen]

@12:13 " Every type of vessel in the game has to have a fighting chance against every other type of vessel in the game" unless you are playing dutch cruisers that have no ASW. And WG said it is designed as intended...

[@montro2220]

But but, we have - yes I'm Dutch as well - an airstrike.

[@neometallX]

TORI KAJI IPPAI! FINALLY, more HSF Harekaze replays!

[@gregoryfolsom7882]

I ground Yamamoto to a 21 point captain using (chiefly) my Harekaze

[@HoshikawaHikari]

What a twist at the end, totally expected though XD

[@libertycosworth8675]

That was great Jingles. Oof... going down to the wire though.

[@Love2Cruise]

7:42 ROFLMAO! Jingles should try his hand in stand-up comedy.

[@crazywarriorscatfan9061]

Watching the DoY just sail into the torps one after the other was quite amusing!

[@stefanocrosazzo3262]

Especially considering DoY has hydro

[@tomzicare]

Jingele going full WoWs LOL. So many ship vids hahaha

[@admiralshikimori6960]

Die Hard medal in a HSF Harekaze. Now that's something you don't see everyday...

[@daintyfoal1981]

pointyhairedjedi, now thats a name ive not heard in a long time

[@FlyingRossolini]

Disclaimer - I thoroughly enjoy your WoWS replays and running commentary. If I'm being honest, I haven't turned on the game since the LWM fiasco - after comparing the game mechanics of then versus now, it looks like I made to right decision. What a mess.

[@p75369]

The RDF skill makes sense though, it's using the enemies radio transmissions to get a bearing. A sub at depth won't be transmitting anything, a) because the water would block it anyway and b) they don't want to be detected by RDF.

[@Answinpunk]

Fantastic commentary as always, though a submarine that got shot through with bullets should be able to sink... although not to resurface. Remember, every ship is submersible...once.

[@mindstar111]

Thx Jingles for speaking true and clear words about the subs topic in WoWs. Imho a shittier way to milk the cow was never invented.

[@Arphalia]

I raise you Diablo Immortal

[@montro2220]

@@Arphalia Or any other mobile game.

[@Synergist1c_]

Jingles featuring Aetam in the HSF Harekaze? We've seen this before haven't we?

[@Dumbrarere]

Have we? I don't recall. Either I missed something, or I'm just as crap as the old man. XD

[@TonyMontana-st7mq]

Austria known for, Mozart,Arnold Schwarzenegger and Adolf Hitler, you almost got me spraying my coffee all over my pc laughing my ass of, Jingles please never change

[@Nyg5618]

I really miss the times when Jingles would give history of the ship being featured. His Warsoite vid is my absolute favorite. I guess paper ships are responsible for this, but still. I really miss it. Also, I bought an Atlanta 6 years ago. When it was good. Just had to get that out.

[@shadows4400]

The fact that subs can even ram is just...bruh

[@karabenomar]

They'll be launching strike aircraft before we know it. It's "historical" because the Japanese did it in WW2!

[@24YOA]

To be fair, radio location not detecting a submarine underwater makes sense. It's stupid, but it makes sense on paper. Can't really use a radio under water.

[@andrewreilly1018]

but ... er ... sonar does not detect them on or under the water so they must be flying subs??? ;-) LOL

[@knightworld3019]

Which is why we should make a petition to change the skill from Radio Position Finding to Radio and Sonar Position Finding. By WW2 almost every ship had a rudimentary hydrophone installed in them so this makes sense too.

[@nopens]

Oh come on Jingles, Schwarzenegger fell from grace but he isn't that bad.

[@nmccw3245]

He’ll be back…

[@vampirecount3880]

lol

[@montro2220]

@@nmccw3245 He is just tending the Kindergarten 😉

[@1hungrygrizzly]

Fairly unrelated... but I think Aircraft carriers were balanced in the RTS settup. At least you could run out of planes.

[@robandcheryls]

Ships go boom, that’s all I need to see.

[@theGreenChangeling]

To be fair, the RDF works by picking up radio signals (it's in the name). Submarines only transmit above certain depths, so it does actually make sense that a submerged submarine remains undetected by RDF as it would not be transmitting wether it wanted to or not. However, if that is WG'''s reasoning, then the submarines should be deaf and mute to chat, and unable to see ships they can't detect on their own, even on the minimap, as long as theyr are at depths where they can't be detected by RDF.

[@Wolfshead009]

Which would make sense if radar and hydro didn't work through islands.

[@theGreenChangeling]

@@Wolfshead009 before they added underwater terrain, it worked perfectly fine: hydro went under the islands, while radar bounced over them, usually via a satellite or the moon...

[@frankysworld]

"The dumbest thing I have seen any player do in World of Warships" - oh you sweet summer child!

[@cricketerfrench7501]

Jingles is a little too fond of calling other idiots idiots.

[@frankysworld]

@@cricketerfrench7501 I'm quite fond of Jingles, he calls himself an idiot occasionally, hence showcasing he doesn't take himself too seriously.

[@DrSid42]

Harekaze is such a good ship ! One of my favorites.

[@Ett.Gammalt.Bergtroll]

Submarines being basically dead if caught on the surface would actually nicely balance their perma-stealth, invincibility mode they have when not at the surface.

[@michaelray3865]

Jingles, the enemy below had something to say about a submarine’s actual chances. “Then why do they hunt them with THREE destroyers at a time?” One dd vs. one sub, if the sub got the chance, might very well be able to put a “fish” into the tin can. Or at least disengage. Particularly before widespread hedgehog usage.

[@malusignatius]

To quote M. Night Shyamalan, "What a Twist!"

[@vhgiv]

But Jingles! A submarine is not a ship. It be a boat!

[@Testacabeza]

Well, you had Sigmund Freud from Austria as well.

[@ggkavlos]

Aetam and Jedi 🥰

[@mikebrown1494]

So submarines are essentially the EBRs and other wheeled vehicles of WoW?

[@Sgt__Hawk]

Well, Mozart was a German. He died 1791, but Salzburg became part of Austria only 1805. Before it belonged to Bavaria.

[@Ned-Ryerson]

Well, the Prince Archbishops of Salzburg might want to have a word. Bavaria only go their dirty mitts on Salzburg during Napoleonic times in 1810, and before that, it was first ruled by a junior line of the Hapsburgs, in the shape of the Archduke of Toskana, from 1803 until 1805, when the Austrians took over, with a short French interim in 1809. So it was actually Austrian before it became Bavarian, and finally became Austrian for good in 1816. But yes, Mozart was a German as someone living and dieing in the Holy Roman Empire.

[@SteelGunner76]

Mac and Me is an awesome movie! Eat your heart out ET!

[@ryanbarbosa9020]

the mackensn switched to High explosive before he got his dumbass killed when jingles said that i was drinking some pepsi and nearly choked to death that was funny asf.

[@skullhelmet1944]

Wow, what an ending!

[@andrewmacdonald651]

Bloody nail biter at the end jingles

[@m0ntheg3rs]

That R key is too OP for those BB captains to use

[@TheEmmetdocbrown]

The biggest historical legacy austria achieved was that they made Beethoven become a austrian and Hitler become a german. Greetings from Germany.

[@TheMouseMasterYT]

7:41 c'mon now, the pre-rework carriers were fine! ... Ya know, up through T8. ... And not those T7 premiums. ... And the T4 were pathetic... Ok never mind.

[@BillMcD]

ill be honest, the wargaming netcoding made pre-rework carriers slow and painful. 7hz update rate for the servers made the top down gameplay awful and keeps hamstringing the game. Instead of giving carriers a learning curve, they just kept making carriers more and more unbalanced which is mindbogglingly dumb.

[@warrenlehmkuhleii8472]

To add further insult to injury with the sub problem: I was sailing the Flint, got two full salvos into the enemy sub, did not kill him, and because he (pr another sub) torpedoed me earlier, he got me with his secondary.

[@alecmurray8339]

“Austria? Haha well then, G’day Mate!…”

[@SalvaBarbus]

Funnily enough, didn't RPF also not work against carriers? The one class that, I don't know, should use the radio all the time for communication with its aircraft? But yeah, hero classes gonna be hero classes.

[@EvoraGT430]

It does work against CVs

[@Ragenule]

Think I heard Akatsuki faintly around 2:00. At first I thought someone somehow had a faint Star Wars alarm for a horn, lol.

[@arduous222]

3:00 Actually Jingles, it's Akitsuki that has 100mm guns, not Akatsuki. Also, is the name of the cat Akatsuki or Akitsuki?

[@skullhelmet1944]

Hello to "The World Famous Pointy Haired Jedi" 😃💕

[@Skyfighter64]

I miss the World of Warships that existed before the carrier rework.

[@longrider42]

the High school Fleet Harekaze, was more or less a training ship. Which is why said ship, is as it is. I have one. Its not bad, just different to play.