World of Warships - Try Hard 8: Try Harder

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[@MehrumesDagon]

about that Pyotr Battleship reversing there is a third possibility - he may have realized he sailed out of cap and decided to go back into it without showing broadside to enemy battleships ;)

[@thedon9670]

More like it.

[@AmericanThunder]

Oh those pyot broadsides mmmm

[@TheKobiDror]

When you have more base XP in the loosing team than the 1st one of the enemy team... I was really cheering for that end screen and wasn't disappointed. Too bad for Venathor though

[@dzello]

Yeah but he's in a Kamikaze so it's not much of a feat.

[@justincartwright6907]

You lose a game, you loose an arrow...

[@indisputablefacts8507]

Kamikaze in a T5 match borders on cheating. I'm not impressed with that game at all.

[@chrisstevens2944]

The lost fleet series is very good. His dad and grandad were in navy and uses alot of tactics in the space battles. Author was also up on pyhics so has time dilation at near FTL speeds in his combat, very good series

[@Cailus3542]

His characters and worldbuilding are dodgy, but the space battles are indeed excellent.

[@chrisstevens2944]

@@Cailus3542 like the deadly pace cows? :D does get abit far fetched towards end

[@Fred-bw3no]

Read that series. Starts off slow but the author gets better as it goes on.

[@EviLEwoK666]

Love the lost fleet series. He's doing better, fleshing out the background withe the genesis Fleet books and the lost stars.

[@williamhawkins41]

Its good Sci fi, but Honor Harrigton is wayyyyy better.

[@Goldenwing117]

Jingles you are part of my daily routine and if something happened to you my life would NOT be the same. Also I’m gonna have to send you a warthunder replay at some point because being in this channel has been one of my dreams for like 7 years.

[@thegewehrmann8646]

Indeed!

[@jaggar28]

@@asterion3291 hahaha

[@SirFryStirFry]

Every day I start my day with jingles

[@thomaskositzki9424]

@@asterion3291 Be that next-level-guy like me, quit WoWs and just keep watching Jingles! :P XD

[@hubristicmystic]

Tell him to stop smoking then

[@dougjb7848]

That guy's team had enough potatoes to supply a McD's for a day.

[@zoecornish]

or for ever in Russia lol

[@dkBybee]

Hilarious!

[@montro2220]

Woot I can do an actually Jingles today: Actually Jingles the range on the torpedo's is 7km and not 6km (3:10) *Executes a hard turn to avoid the torpedo's from Akizuki*

[@mynameiswritinwater]

thanks for doing that and playing the bait^. Was about to point that out as well^, hehe. We can rely on our gnomish overload to be reliably crap .... ok ok, extra shift in the low mines ? yes Gnome !

[@montro2220]

@@mynameiswritinwater but but but we love our Gnomish Overlord. To the mines it is😁

[@glenmcgillivray4707]

Actually the torpedoes might have plenty of range. But Akizuki has been equipped with some radar guided Shotguns to ensure faster delivery of Displeasure at lazy miners busy being distracted by actually Jingles moments. As avoiding her Torpedoes was deemed too easy. Please enjoy your welcome reception of rock salt shotgun shells being delivered near you. And get back to work. That salt doesn't mine itself - Human Resource Department

[@montro2220]

@@glenmcgillivray4707 thank you for pointing out my mistake about Akizuki's armament, I shall now report to the overseer at the lowest levels of the salt mines.

[@LucarioNN]

*Actually Jingles...* Wh-what are you doing with that gun, Jingles?

[@nickharvey7233]

So glad you mentioned Iain M Banks - one of my all time favourite authors. The books are worth it alone for the ai/ship names.

[@warrenwiley5656]

I love the Ship/AI names of The Culture and used them for inspiration in a recent D&D campaign I ran. The players used a portal which took them to a derelict Spacecraft, where they had to try find what had happened and find a way back. The ship was called "Liberal Interpretation of the Rules", with the crew name for the AI being "Libby".

[@nickharvey7233]

@@warrenwiley5656 Great idea!

[@pureradio5655]

Honestly, what a good example of Dazzle being used effectively. Never thought I'd see the day. Also you have to love Jingles laugh at the first time Venathor used "&$@%" in chat xD

[@mediocrefunkybeat]

Shoutout to 'Excession' as the best Iain Banks 'Culture' novel. Or at least, the funniest. Absolutely side-splittingly brilliant.

[@CeesaX]

I'm liking this mid-tier kick Jingles has been on recently with the WoWs content. After competitive as so much focus on high tier ships, it's nice to drop back down a little bit and remember there are some nice gems in t5-7 as well.

[@windborne8795]

This group of Japanese DDs are so much fun. However, I feel a tad guilty every time I play them now because, I have been playing WoWs since 2016. Seal Clubbing or as I like to justify it as, challenging noobs and making them better players, is a right of passage after years of various frustrations at the hands of the WG developers. Never stop showcasing the lower tiers Jingles. Cheers! And happy belated birthday ol' man! I'm only a few years behind you sir. 🍻

[@jkorshak]

No hard scifi recommend is complete without a very big nod to Larry Niven. Particularly "Protector" and "Ringworld," not to mention the "Known Space" stories and novels. Niven with Jerry Pournelle wrote several brilliant novels, including "Footfall" and "The Mote in God's Eye." Highly recommend.

[@Sporting1210]

i mean sure, those are mostly good books, but how on earth are they "hard" sci-fi?

[@jkorshak]

​@@Sporting1210 Mostly with varying attention and detail to the physics of light, mass, gravity, relativistic time dilation, and well realized "future" tech and industry, governments, and human and alien societies.

[@Sporting1210]

@@jkorshak i think you should re-read Ringworld again, if you claim that to be true ;) Cixin Liu is passing as hard-fi. Maybe even something like Lem's "His master's voice". Niven not i'd reckon. But as always this is just an opinion and subjective. So prolly no sense in having this discussion and I should not have started it. We all have weak moments on the internet. peeze o/

[@warrenwiley5656]

@@Sporting1210 When they were written, Known Space was hard-fi. Later books might come along & be "edgier", but they don't redefine what came before.

[@keyring8368]

Lucifer's Hammer is great too, and is pretty much Hard Sci-Fi.

[@shingshongshamalama]

There's also Excession, which introduced me to a concept I never had a term for before and has permanently ruined my ability to observe scifi stories without relating them to it.

[@Minanonn]

Would that be the 'out of context problem'? Described as something most civilizations only encounter once, in much the same way as a sentence encounters a period?

[@tanker6473]

@@Minanonn exactly

[@tanker6473]

My favorite Culture novel

[@The_MightyJingles]

Excession ties with Look To Windward for my two favourite Culture novels.

[@AnthonyRichesEmpire]

Phlebas is the Iain M book I come back to every time I want to feel comforted by something I’ve always loved. What a book. Way better than some of his later stuff. I have it in signed first and I love it more than the Flemings and Deightons I also have. What a writer.

[@asddsagogoolpower]

Nice part of my days is watching a jingles video in the evening!

[@tonyd223]

Agree with the book recommendation, I bought it in a jumble sale, and it changed my life... Great book

[@casperreininga3253]

Thank you for showing us this Kamikaze replay. Now I know its exact stats so I can counter them alot better. As a BB main these little buggers are the bain of my existence, I always drop everything I'm doing when a Kami gets spotted and shoot them up.

[@WhimsicalPacifist]

@@M.AZZAM8976 68kt torpedo speed and low torpedo detection range. Best torpedoes for the IJN in game and enough speed/maneuverability to get it in place. Honestly preferred them on the Minekaze (45kt ship speed), but the Type 92 got removed from the Mine.

[@MehHalfhearted]

Jingles giving the Pyotr Velikiy waaaay too much credit. Dudes just cap hungry lol.

[@Cheese9220]

Your a bloody good commentator, mindset dissector and explainer

[@joshhinch]

Thanks Big Fella! Your dulcet tones and clever postings help soothe the stresses at the end of my day. Enjoyed very much. Josh in Dunedin NZ

[@shp27493]

Man, that was a heartbreaking loss. He literally tried until the last second.

[@Drachenfang]

Gotta try the book: We are Legion, we are Bob. It's amazing

[@gunboatsandhos]

the stuff of dreams, what an unfortunate ending thanks jingles for the wonderful commentary!

[@philipdawes2661]

It always says something when the top loser gets more xp than the top winner :)

[@arizona_anime_fan]

only seen that once. I was in a ranked battle in a Pommern. ended up with something like 4 sunk ships, and almost 300k damage delt, in a loss. think i edged out the no.1 guy on the enemy team by like 10 points. it was a bitter loss too, because i almost got the carry at the end, when it was 3 on 1, with a kremlin, pomm and shima. sunk the kremlin for sink no.3 with a torpedo broadside, but moments before he died he got a cit through my stern which took me from mostly full health to 20k or so, then i got the nearly full life pomm with a second torp broadside (don't know what he was thinking) seconds later but his secondaries got me on fire x2 which i had to damcon, their shima was spotted by my sonar (behind an island), but i beached myself dodging it's torp attack, which brought me to a stop, allowing the shima to break line of sight, as the clock struck zero, us behind by 100 points, and the shima with just 300 or so points of health left. it was a frustrating end, cause if i hadn't beached myself i'm certain i could have finished the shima off, problem is had i not beached myself the shima probably would have sunk me, i had no good choices, had that kremlin not cit'd me, or the pomm not forced me to damcon, I probably would have turned in and risked 1 or 2 shima torps for the chance to kill him, sadly that wasn't the case... usually do well in the pommern, it's a fun ship in t9 battles.

[@Fred-bw3no]

My personal favorite sci-fi is the Honorverse series. Hard sci-fi, excellent worldbuilding and some interesting tech choices. Highly recommend

[@abhijeetsutar5259]

The Honorverse is damn good. I am currently hooked on the Manticore Ascendant series. Have you read the Frontlines series by Marko Kloos?

[@Fred-bw3no]

@@abhijeetsutar5259 not yet. I’ll add it to the list.

[@gyrene_asea4133]

I can't claim to have read the "Honorverse", but 30 years ago I read the 2nd of the HH Series first: " A Short Victorious War", hooked me for all of the originals. The premise of the authoritarian baddies in that book, to gain an easy victory for domestic political consumption is quite current. BTW: I was reading these concurrently with O'Brian's Aubrey novels of naval combat of the Napoleonic War. Fun twists.

[@edmartin875]

David Weber is one of my favorite authors. Not only does he have the science and great story lines down pat, but he is also pretty good and jerking a few tears while he is at it.

[@ScotsRonin]

Has anyone brought up David Weber's Honor Harrington series? She's based on Nelson, so I'm surprised Jingles isn't already familiar with her. Great books!

[@Taliyon]

What a glorious video. It stings deep to put in a colossal effort, and fall just short.

[@jediwarlord8718]

Excellent suggestion jingles :) I’ve read almost all of his books. Definitely highly recommend them :)

[@davidwhitfield6025]

Love my Kami R. One of my favourite DDs to play. I note the poor sod not only had the most xp of his own team but he gained more xp than every ship on the winning team as well. I've never seen that before.

[@MoparNewport]

Yet another game demonstrating how broken DDs are, third to sky cancer, second only to subcancer. Imagine if the DDs had limited torpedo reloads? The BBs never had a prayer.

[@LordOfCinder85]

Any of Iain M Banks Culture novels is great but "Use of Weapons" is my personal favorite. It is unfortunate that we will never get more of them.

[@carstenbohme8813]

I'm currently reading it. Honestly? I have no idea what's going on in the story :-) English is not my native language but usually I don't feel so lost when reading an English novel.

[@stoneymahoney9106]

@@carstenbohme8813 Don't worry, it will all become.... if not clear, then at least less confusing than it is right now.

[@LordOfCinder85]

@@carstenbohme8813 Was the same for me when I read it the first time. It will all make sense in the end.

[@warrenwiley5656]

Use of Weapons disturbed me so much that I can never go near it again. But I love Player of Games, have read it a dozen times and have it in my top 10.

[@Terrathrax]

Listening to Alastair Reynolds "Chasm City" at the moment actually. Love the randomness, the overall writing and storyline. Reminds me of my favorite, Peter F. Hamilton. Maybe because they use the same narrator, John Lee.

[@cptkiddokidd5137]

I've recently really enjoyed sci-fi from Jeremy Robinson, and the narrator that he has for Audible, R.C. Bray, is incomparable. Great audio.

[@StaK_1980]

I wouldn't consider Ian M Banks as hard Sci-Fi but he is a really good author.

[@WozWozEre]

Yeah The Culture is Space Opera, not Hard SF. Still spectacular books though.

[@thenevergrown5009]

First that came to my mind is Andy Weir. Artemis is really good :)

[@Raycheetah]

Larry Niven's Tales of Known Space are quite good, with some unusual protagonists. =^[.]^=

[@stephen1r2]

But Ian M Banks is still very much in the category of making you think. The issues are 'just' moral, ethical, and political rather than physical. Just look into the story of the _Grey Area_

[@t4rv0r60]

Peter F. Hamilton is just *chef's kiss*. the Commonwealth Saga is of the best pieces of sci fí books out there.

[@GunsAndGrenache]

Thank you Jingles !! Love your commentaries especially the warships video replays :)

[@davidlabedz2046]

Morning with JINGLES is the way to start the day!

[@julianjanczyk9041]

And from military sci-fi I can tell that I'm in love in Jack Campbell's "Stark trilogy". Amazing books! One hell of a ride.

[@FluppiLP]

This man knows his stuff. I read consider phlebas first and absolutely loved it. Definitely read it too!. It might be his worst but it's still a good book! In fact read all of them! The whole series is awesome :D

[@techc.mshiner]

Love you jingles ❤️ legit just woke up and saw your vid now I’m happy :)

[@jimwolaver9375]

Jingles at 17:43 "Just exactly how stupid do they have to be..." ME: "Spectacularly." Jingles: "Watch this!"

[@Khono]

I love hard sci fi! I've got a couple of recommended authors for you, Mr. Jingles. John G. Cramer (not popular, only wrote two full novels that I'm aware of, but I keep coming back to those great books) and Vernor Vinge (much more popular but not much more prolific).

[@freetolook3727]

@13:34 I see what those cheeky bastard "teammates" are trying to do. They let the DD do all the work, then they take credit for the win by capping the enemy base when there are no more enemy ships in the area! They must be Millennials.😂

[@williamlack2944]

I'd add Peter Hamilton to that list of scifi authors , especially Mindstar Rising, Quantum Murder, & the Nanoflower

[@JasonRobards2]

The Konig reminded me a bit of those WoT players who spam the F7 help key whenever, even when they are the last player on their team.

[@Romamon]

Why the enemy battleships at the end didn't think to start zig-sagging when the "detected" warning appeared still baffles me

[@ChristopherDoll]

I miss my old, pre-nerfed Minekaze - and I never got the Kamikaze R. Such fun DDs

[@petteritoivonen9353]

Banks' Culture series are so freaking good. So good.

[@curthenderson6407]

The "1632" series is a great sci-fi alternate history series. Some really interesting stories involving recreating a technology base (such as flying and naval) using the limited resources of a small Pennsylvania coal town.

[@curthenderson6407]

Author is Eric Flint.

[@anthonywebb6479]

You didn't just suggest in this video that there is such a thing as a BB driver with either situational awareness or a clue about the risks others take to spot for them? I thought they just believed in magic that happens where Minerva took them into her bosom of good fortune to help them outspot far smaller vessels?

[@DV-uk3qn]

The seal clubber's club of choice.

[@jamesmaclennan4525]

David Drakes Republic of Cinnabar Navy series is a fun romp using lesser known incidents of the Napoleonic Wars as the inspiration., and then off course there's David Weber's Honorverse designed to be Hornblower in Space.

[@simonholt2870]

I've followed you for years but never so much in full agreement with you than I am about the Culture series.

[@davethompson3326]

Fancy a game of Damage sometime? :-P

[@Peterax788]

Man, that game stings for me to watch. I have been in Venathor's position where I was helpless about a game which could have been great

[@FlatFab004]

We all did live that at least once, dude... ;)

[@Leeeeegion]

I would recommend the Ian m banks book “The Hydrogen Sonata”. One of my favorite ever novels

[@historicalhijinks3058]

Gonna throw my favorite sci-fi (yes, even more than Star Wars Legends) into the ring: David Weber. Not just his flagship series, Honor Harrington, either. I mean, for sure Honor Harrington, but Safehold, Empire From the Ashes... Seriously, Honor Harrington though. His actual pitch to the president of Baen Books was 'Horatio Hornblower, in space, with a female lead.' And man did it work. Plus, if you have people like S.M. Stirling, David Drake, Timothy Zahn (probably the greatest of the Star Wars EU authors, the man invented Mara Jade and Grand Admiral Thrawn!), and Eric Flint writing short stories and anthologies in your universe, you've probably come up with a damn good universe, right? Empire from the Ashes, the Moon is a giant battleship from a collapsed human interstellar empire and all of terran humanity are descendants of its crew. Safehold, humanity is wiped out by genocidal aliens except for one colony kept in the stone ages to hide it from said enemy, but the people in charge developed god complexes. Now the handful of people who know the truth have to save humanity from the Inquisition those god-complexes put into place, a thousand years after the event itself. I mean, more to it than that, but damn, check them out! They're mostly hard sci-fi too, or were when they first came out. Some stuff has since been proven false, but he really tries to keep his stuff grounded in real physics and such. It means a lot of technical stuff, ofc, but that doesnt detract from it in my opinion. Once you get past the first book, which by its nature is kinda info-dumpy, it really picks up!

[@OscarMike3770]

Jingles if youre in the neighborhood for some science fiction stories/books.....try the Honorverse series of books. Its a single main series with 2 or 3 smaller side series

[@gurk_the_magnificent9008]

Second this one

[@keyring8368]

I recommend fiction written by Peter Cawdron, mostly he focuses on first contact scenarios and how humanity and governments react to it. The books are quite intense at time.

[@jamesmurphy9577]

Jingles, you might enjoy "Project Hail Mary", by Andy Weir. It's definitely on the harder end of sci-fi - well-researched and fairly funny too.

[@zetsubouda]

Great author to suggest! I recommend him quite a bit myself!

[@XionGaTaosenai]

There should be a ribbon, like the Kraken ribbon or the Confederate/High Caliber ribbon, for getting more base XP on the losing team than the top scorer on the winning team. Maybe call it "You tried so hard, and got so far..."

[@Vinemaple]

Jingles seems to have forgotten that this is a tier V match, some of the bad play may indeed have been from new players.

[@VantasStrider]

Jingles, wholeheartedly recommend A Practical Guide to Evil. Best books I've ever read - by book 3 genuinely I'd say they're better worldbuilding, characters, writing, etc than Lord of the Rings. Can be found online; as yet there is no printed copy available

[@chimpboy12345]

kamikaze and kamikaze R are the true seal clubbers ships of choice, due to torp speed and reload and detection 500 meters better than almost all other DDs at the tier.. There is a clan *cough*MIFFY*cough* on the asia server who pad their stats to purple by playing over 10000 games in 3 man divs in these ships alone. So every time I see a kamikaze, even if its not that clan, my mission is to kill it first out of pure hatred.

[@Parabueto]

Pfft wow. Funnily enough I got into a massive binge of reading sci fi as a teen and Consider Phlebas was the first and only Banks novel I've read. Yeah, it was pretty hard going and I didn't like it all that much (Although I guess it's telling I can recall most of the plot so it had being memorable going for it). I did start naming all my EVE Online ships after Culture ships though, the naming conventions are neat. I'll have to give The Player of Games a go.

[@gollorin5160]

Who needs competent team mates when you have such window-lickers as enemies ? ...

[@coloradodrives7784]

he did, because he lost lol.

[@fluffyflextail]

Wait, the ship is called "Devine Wind"? .... Hold my beer!

[@sethanon8732]

massive fan of Peter Hamilton, another good shout is David Weber and his honor series starting with On Basilisk Station

[@RedXlV]

If that 4th torp had hit the Pyotr Veliky, that *would* have sunk it because you don't get torpedo damage reduction on the stern.

[@sayyahdina]

My favourite Iain M. Banks novel is The Algebraist, not part of the culture novels but still a fantastic sci fi read.

[@The_MightyJingles]

The Algebraist is very good. I think my all time favourites would be Excession and Look to Windward, though.

[@Fallenangel_85]

I still remember how OP the Kamikaze was when it was released and it's still got it's edge.

[@gonotgone1]

I really feel for the Kami player in this battle I have been there too with 9 kills, 270,000 damage and that too was a loss. Oh well the Kamikaze is the most naughty fun you can have with your clothes still on.

[@simselmore5625]

Lemme guess... T7 match?

[@gonotgone1]

A couple of tier 6 but mostly 5s

[@thomaskurz5617]

If I remember right before the IJN destroyer split, the Minekaze and Kamikaze were more or less identical. Think the Minekaze was even a bit better. I played the Minekaze then more, and just switched to the Kamikaze after the nerf due to the split

[@dandarling152]

The old school Minekaze had 10 km torpedoes. I think the Kamikaze's had slightly better turret traverse or reload on guns. Because of the torp range, everyone played the tech tree ship. The Kamikazes were only used to train a captain for your Shimikaze so he had concealment expert. Once the Minekaze was nerfed, The Kamikazes came into favor because they kept the torpedo speed, damage, and reload. You could also plop Yamamoto on him and be even more deadly.

[@jackaubrey8614]

I got my Minekaze (finally!) a week before the DD split... :( :( :(

[@MrDgwphotos]

Anyone with a GC is more than likely to know what they are doing, since it's a ship, that, like the Kamikaze, is no longer available due to its reputation for being over powered, and has been unavailable for a while.

[@hughburgess7201]

Jingles, take a look at David Weber. He writes military science fiction, usually about the Royal Mantacore Navy (space navy). His books are not the short novelettes that pass for novels nowadays. His paperbacks range in the 700+ page range with type only very slightly larger than agate font. Think the tiny type used for the public notices in old style newspapers of the 1960's and 70s.

[@kdog3908]

Just when the temptation to reinstall WoWS starts scratching at the door, a timely reminder of how frustrating WoWS player base is comes along! Thanks Jingles! 😁😁

[@pierre-mariecaulliez6285]

If you'd like to mix it up a little, try fictional historical novels : Temeraire The Napoleonic Wars, from the British perspective, but with tamed dragons ;7

[@russward2612]

Another great naval based sci-fi novel is "Surface Action" by David Drake. I don't know if it's available on Audible.

[@bretcampbell790]

I'm amazed that Consider Phlebas is so widely considered to be Banks' worst novel. It's true that he hadn't developed the kind of style that he's known for throughout most of the Culture series by the time that he wrote it (it's more like modernist fiction in space) but it's still an exceptional novel. The characters and their journeys are much more interesting than you find in the vast majority of sci fi out there, and the world building is arguably what inspired the HALO universe.

[@DmitryOzzy]

To make it easy to pronounce you can say Peter The Great instead of Pyotr Velikiy, as it is what that means. And if you care about pronounce, the stress is on the second part in the word Velikiy :). Anyways, great and fun episode!

[@robertdean1923]

Books... The Bobiverse series by Dennis E. Taylor may fit your humor and taste. It's great up to the 3rs or 4th book where it seems to outgrow itself but worth a spin for sure. And thanks for all the content! Only ever messaged you once before due to things and maybe a reason or two, and that was a few years ago but I like them! (no I mean I select "👍").

[@AMPdVidz]

Podclasts!! Jingles, never change!

[@weir-t7y]

Jingles, could you make a list of your book recommendations?

[@phoobar9640]

Oh. Consider Phlebas was his worst book? Now you tell me... After I slogged thru it, and decided that Mr. Banks wasn't my cuppa.

[@concordemakesvideos1070]

I cant agree with you more on the book recommendation.

[@johnhittle5396]

PT Deutermann is a retired naval officer, with good historical naval combat novels.

[@davidb3352]

Sometimes if you have just have ONE teammate with a freakin brain you can win these close battles.

[@matthewanderson2193]

its games like this where you lose your rag with your team and wanting to report each of them a billion times..... BUT this is actually why this game needs a tutorial to help new players understand the game and help them play better and be better team mates. I didnt understand it when i started playing, i had to learn the hard way, i even recall a certain Adm Hipster (jingles, to those that dont know) having a go at me for being a dumb shit in 2017 lol.

[@verhekkie.2396]

Like to watch these videos whilst I'm at my graduation internship. Without Life would be boring

[@gelanghaarteweile3048]

The day i heard Iain Banks died, i shed some tears for a complete stranger! My world got just a bit darker by the fact that there won't be any new books from him ;-( If a humans style of writing say something about his soul, than Iain Banks will be in heaven! Sad sidenote: he married his wife just an inch befor his death and asked her: "if she wants to become his widow" I am still looking for a replacement of his style of storytelling and the grandeur of vision of futur society!

[@davidbell5528]

Player of games is one of my favourites of all time, some of his later books get annoying, whereas this just left me wanting to read the rulebook of the game....

[@warrenwiley5656]

I have Player of Games in my top 10. Use of Weapons however freaked me out completely :(

[@davidbell5528]

thinking about it i might actually say read Consider Phlebas first, in as much as reading it after any of the other culture books would badly affect how the story works, knowing much about the universe would probably spoil parts of the plot and stop you getting immersed in the storyline

[@chrinschbro]

Well well well What do my eyes spy here Another try hard challenge? Now I am intrested This is going to be good

[@Seth90]

The Pyotr Velikiy was neither purposefully avoiding torpedos nor holding his distance from the enemy... He was reversing back into the cap circle >.

[@SoggyCoffeeAddict]

Man, I used to not play much low tier in tanks. But recently I dug out my old ue57 and pz s35 because a clan mate convinced me to play some low tier with him, and wow did that feel liberating. Actually having a solid chance of winning 2 v 12 matches, because your team sucked so bad they only got 2 kills before everyone else died

[@Mr_Jake_Smith]

Actually Jingles, He was for a brief moment alone against 4 enemies, as the Okt. Revo. died mere moments before he sunk the last ship in his base, if he had been able to kill the Ceseare, he'd have had his very own Solo warrior

[@nazamroth8427]

09:00 "All 6 surviving enemy ships" Apparently the enemy switched sides?

[@arduous222]

competence of this team makes this sentence somewhat valid.

[@timeforgottenprince8271]

@@arduous222 Or lack there of.

[@andreask.3465]

Jingles like: "... and very very similar to the minikaze the tech tree japanese destroyer.... except as you'd expect of a premium ship in world of warships it's better as the minekaze in almost every aspect except the one that doesn't matter".... and I just look at my Z-35 with tears in my eyes :'D :'D

[@sardaukerlegion]

Banks? I own most of his books. His eccentric IAs are a little differend of Saberhagen's Berserker IAs.

[@richardthecowardlylion5289]

Nothing better than watching torp boats lose.

[@IIIJG52]

You know...back in the day when the Kamikaze was sold i was like : " Why would i possibly buy this, its just a minekaze. I had a minekaze that i used to sealclub with way back when. So i didnt need this. Then they nerfed the Minekaze and removed this thing from sale because it was OP. I had regrets.