World of Warships - Tin Foil Hat

[@skyvenrazgriz8226]

I think jingles tinfoil hat is fitting him quiet well, even tho he is right.

[@davidchrysostom695]

WG: "Must protect the subs that no one wants !"

[@skyvenrazgriz8226]

@@davidchrysostom695 hear hear

[@johannobel1691]

Jingles being not wrong? That's a refreshing change. Oh wait, it's not about the replay he's right about :P

[@BullCityCocktails]

Hes right but the change always needed to benefit destroyers too. Destroyer will be the only real counter to subs.

[@x_quinn_x9179]

@@davidchrysostom695... nonsense, there are plenty of players who want subs and there always has been.

[@aprilwhitemouse1593]

I was one of the unwitting Canadian test subjects.

[@armorhide406]

Your country thanks you for your sacrifice

[@nottoday3817]

Well, judging by your name, you were the best subject for the job

[@6th_Army]

I volunteer as tribute!

[@Opaheke1]

But I'm sure the deep and sincere apology fixed everything, don't worry WG promise to do better, okay I have to stop I think I just threw up in my mouth a little.

[@anionleader]

You and Chobi need justice!

[@sleepbeinshy5775]

Honestly jingles’ laugh is the thing that makes my day.

[@MalyceN]

My wife never has a clue what I'm watching until Jingles starts laughing

[@billhanna2148]

Same here..wifey knows what I'm watching by his laugh 😂

[@demarcheers]

Naw fr💀

[@hubristicmystic]

Jingles “little theories “ are never complimentary towards Wargaming. And usually correct.

[@DraftySatyr]

That's because a leopard seldom changes its spots

[@Mthammere2010]

To be fair, I find his little tinfoil moment to be very complimentary towards WG. He's technically praising them for making the game more convenient to play for the fragile classes while they ignore the feedback of the dominant class that was making the game unplayable for cruisers: Battleships. It also answers why WG has been so deaf to the community, that's by and large are opposed to (I'm not one of them) the addition of the last form of major naval combatant: Submarines. Soviet CVs are another one. You have to remember, being in St. Petersburg, you know there's a GRU officer overseeing WG's every message, transaction and move. My hat's off to WG and Jingles for be more Wizard than men. However, were talking Saruman, Orthank and Gandalf here.

[@EthanQix]

@@Mthammere2010 it feels less complimentary to WG and more like "they accidentally fixed something that needed fixing for 2 years"

[@kings_nemesis5995]

@@EthanQix kinda like how in wot atm they fixed what all were complaining about by changing arty once again

[@Mthammere2010]

@@EthanQix if that's what you think than you grotesquely mistaken. Combat isn't meant to be fare. Nobody gets a fair warning from torpedoes so forget about it. Meanwhile, players receive too much warning from shells and Aircraft. Outside of a few dubious blunders, WG has been excessively generous towards it's player base.

[@5chr4pn3ll]

WG in a nut shell. The only way they will actually improve the game, is by accident.

[@TheGrandexeno]

The accident is if spreadsheet (sales) for once collime with better game play. Kind of difficult of a correlation in this type of games.

[@satnikray]

You could not have said it better!

[@steeljawX]

At least the CV's were not affected in any negative manner! Don't want to ruin World of Aircraft Carriers at all.

[@__ManMilk]

“Activate free healthcare” 😂 as a Canadian I can confirm our navy also gets free healthcare

[@liesdamnlies3372]

They also get free gum. To patch the holes in the subs. ^.^

[@Wombraider383]

All branches get free health care in usa

[@Kevinm1025]

so they are encouraged to scuttle themselves?

[@Facet_5_CUT_8XM]

“Damn Canadians!” I say that as I’m an American! lol

[@gdt1410]

That first min of “Enable health care” was criminal!!🤣

[@AlSurMedia]

Listening to him describe the litany of effects to the player base following the change of the rocket planes reminded me of that video where they describe the population effects in Yellowstone Park caused by just returning the wolves. XD

[@JETZcorp]

And of course, that's picking up the story in the middle. When they first got rid of the wolves, the effects were so widespread that certain types of TREES became endangered!

[@ViktorBengtsson]

That was my thought as well, and I really enjoyed it :)

[@ericraymond3734]

Yes, I thought of that too.

[@AnthonyRichesEmpire]

Funny who lots of us thought that - me too. Sounded like rewilding...let the destroyers run free!!!

[@kena4977]

Only problem is I think it is fundamentally flawed. The same day that the rocket plane change occurred Grand Battles went live. All the BBs are out duking it out with each other there. Everything will go back to normal once that goes away

[@TrickiVicBB71]

As a Canadian. That intro gave me a good laugh

[@praetorxian]

Same here, eh!

[@curiosity802]

#metoo Canadian never give up.

[@narcoleptic8982]

It’s a beauty for sure

[@elgrosdude7]

As a Canadian, i loved your intro, it made me feel great- in the begining i didnt see that it was Yukon, so i thought the song was for how much he wanted our free health care :P

[@glenf4115]

Canadian healthcare was modeled after the UK's National Health Service which is also paid for by taxation.

[@thevexengineer]

0:26 as a canadian i can confirm that this is exactly how we've been keeping our ancient warships and submarines still in operation

[@detritus23]

Jingles, even paranoids have enemies. Or in WG’s case: even hemorrhoids have enemas. It is as good a theory as any, and as a dd player, I will happily exploit an opportunity while WG makes a mistake. At this point, with so many of the higher tier ships being either nerfed-to-death, brokenly overpowered, or just struggling, to stay relevant with the whipsaw meta changes, any game play improvement even if accidental is welcome.

[@krzysztofdre3294]

Not only subs... Russian CVs are coming too... and soviet bias is not to be underestimated.

[@ainumahtar]

@@krzysztofdre3294 Yes, but I do find it hard to imagine what reason WG would have to basically blanket nerf CV ahead of the soviet CV release. Unless *shudders* they are so vastly more powerful that even the one playtester WG still has thought it broke the game.

[@olafmesschendorp147]

I can tell you one thing, Russian CV's aren't overpowered. They are actually pretty interesting. Shooting down planes will reduce the damage output for example.

[@hashkangaroo]

*This same effect is also visible in movies, where you'll see old franchises moving to reach toward the "wider market" because they recognize that gaining the attention of 13-year-olds everywhere vastly outweighs the loss that snubbing dedicated fans will represent. Why? Because 13 years olds have no expectations or standards, and will consume like the good little **_homo americanus_** specimens that they are; dedicated fans have taste and class, and won't like it if you decide to catastrophically remodel your product to catch the breeze of the latest fads and trends.* Our culture is in general moving in this direction, doing everything it can to remodel the average person into a bland, marker-less, identifier-less, culturally-interchangeable piece, because that sort of person is one who won't hold anything sacred: as long as what they're consuming agrees with their stomach, they'll consume it no matter what it contains or what the quality _used to be._ Such a person is fundamentally lacking any kind of cultural background or history, and as a result they can be catered to in any fashion. Unlike a normal person, who will only allow their cultural products to change so far before they stop consuming them, these people will consume it no matter what. And as a result, everything can be twisted and changed to fit every new fad and trend hitting the market. This sort of person is something I dub *_homo americanus_* , because it seems to originate in America, and American culture fits this mold incredibly well. To such a person, religion, community and dignity don't mean anything: they are simply brands to consume and get hyped for, nothing more. *And there is no grand conspiracy behind all of this: this is just **_-the Americanization of-_** society at work.*

[@snailboi6902]

@@olafmesschendorp147 They are definitely interesting, it makes plane kills actually mean something other than the carrier having to print some more aircraft

[@Tarris_]

Nothing like a good Jingles laugh to wake you up in the morning edit: that seems entirely plausible that wargaming would make that change, just long enough for the hype around the brand spanking new premium submarines to die down, at which point they will subsequently revert, or nerf the time it takes for rocket strikes to make contact

[@reksiohundson8706]

I play game 3 yeras have over 10k battles in random over 22k in all modes , have all lines researched + Benham , Musashi, Georgia, Alaska , Paolo Emilio , ZF6 , Hizen ,Pommren , Burgugone , Yoshino , Immelman , Vampire II, Thunderer , Smolensk , Marceau , Moskva , Salem , Ohio my account is worth aroud 12k$ , and when WG will introduce submarines I will consider to sell/trade my account ...

[@Ben-fk9ey]

They do this all the time in World of Tanks. Release a OP tank, wait a few months for people to spend money to speed up the grind to get it. Then nerf it. Nothing surpo here.

[@snoboreddotcom]

I think people are being stupid about thinking the nerf will get reverted considering what flamu revealed about why they have kept carriers so strong. Its not cause someone there has a hard on for them, its because their goal was to boost player numbers in CV and they needed to keep them higher to justify the rework. The thing is that over time the need to do that lessens. After a few years of higher CV population they've likely convinced their higher ups that the rework was money well spent. Those same higher ups are going to care more about stuff like subs and new lines coming out, premiums selling etc. There isnt going to be a reason to revert the nerf after subs, because they don't need to convince their bosses with CV player numbers. Its likely why we saw the nerf in the first place, because they can afford to cut player numbers now. They have less need to justify CV rework now and more need to justify things like the commander and eventually subs and then whatever rework comes after. So I wouldn't expect a change, because they arent going to care to justify the CV rework anymore.

[@basvanheumen4231]

I know WG well enough, they most likely won't revert any changes unless the backlash is big enough to cause them to losea big market share. They removed deadeye eventually, because of numerous complaints. They offfered refunds, to everyone affected by the badly marketing of those Kong vs Godzilla, because of complaints and threats of lawsuits. Yet they never reverted the Zao to it's original state years back. So they most likely will edit the rocketplane attack instead of reverting it.

[@MercurialGamer]

That's right ladies and gentlemen. Jingles actually said that 😂 20:36

[@ianphillips7924]

I seem to remember that they said there wasn't going to be a ship with higher caliber than the yamato

[@Sorarse]

You sound surprised to discover that WG is full of sh*t and will say anything to try and appease their player base, even if it's not true.

[@slavkovalsky1671]

...or another BB with radar besides Missouri... (what's the last count? Four? Five?)

[@selonianth]

@@slavkovalsky1671 Even though it should be an option for every single USN battleship after potentially the New Mexico.

[@slavkovalsky1671]

@@selonianth Well, historical authenticity went out the window five... six years ago?

[@selonianth]

@@slavkovalsky1671 True, I was mostly just commenting on the amusement since I think all of them *have* the radar they should have modeled on the ship, it just does nothing.

[@deaks25]

I have another theory around the introduction of Subs and it's effect on cruisers: Subs are slated to have two slots per battle, meaning 10 surface ships. If a CV is present, that leaves 9 total. In Ranked and Sub testing I noticed my cruisers had a lot more room to position/reposition due to there being fewer surface ships. So I'm hoping that subs will mean cruisers are able to be more effective and able to use their mobility a lot better than they can currently. VIVE LA CRUISERS!!

[@curseofgladstone4981]

And hopefully cruisers. At least lighter ones should be fast enough to be able to dodge torps from the subs. I don't know how effective they will be at countering them though

[@lordofthenoobies2445]

Well, all that is fine... except, radar is still OP as all hell, being the magical x-ray vision spam... so DDs will not benefit any further and luck will still play a bigger role, than skill and experience...

[@number-td3mt]

As someone working up the us cruiser line, ill take anything wg will give me lol

[@Rose.Of.Hizaki]

5:51 -- Map Co-ordinates B4 and B5. If the enemy carrier had been smart and cross dropped a bunch of torpedoes, half of Konrads team would have been completed wiped out.

[@bofoenss8393]

"You WILL be exposing an uncomfortable amount of ankle." I really need to get my hearing checked...

[@ianperley233]

This is why I always wear socks. Nobody needs to see that amount of bendy flesh!

[@garrulous_gnome]

Jingles, set up an autoclicker macro (use autoit or whatever floats your boat) do go through all those clicks for you with some hacked in delays, so that you can watch the replays without having to go through this every time, until WG fix it

[@kb8459]

Hey! I got featured! Thanks for showing off my play in my Zao (my favorite ship in the game)! ~Konrad QD

[@danielgerein6091]

As a real Canadian, I approve that intro. All that was missing was the long wait list for healthcare treatment

[@AdamtheRed-]

Thank you for the Python reference Jingles! Easily my favorite scene in that film.

[@n0us.]

12:06 Ehhh, UK light cruisers like Mino are pretty common. But yea you see a lot more Stalingrads and Yoshinos. Smolensk is also pretty common.

[@glenmcgillivray4707]

Of course they are common. We are refined tea drinking Gentlemen who fight to the death no matter what meta is going around. And raining death upon destroyers, cruisers and battleships is hilarious, and they always expect the smoke, so when you drop a radar everyone gazes at us in horror as we bombard them from cover. And sure, the ship is fragile. Just means when we screw up we get a new map to play on more quickly.

[@ericraymond3734]

It's that rate of fire what does it.

[@n0us.]

@@glenmcgillivray4707 this is the most accurate description of UK CLs that I have ever heard.

[@donaldneill4419]

If the Yukon's heal was really modeled after Canada's health care system, it would take four to six months to kick in after you pushed the button.

[@hollowhusk5166]

So you also have to pay with gold every time you use an american heal?

[@jessegd6306]

Not only do you have to pay with gold, if you take the "Healing Insurance DLC Subscription Pack" then upwards of 10 other random accounts suffer a tiny leech of a dozen gold or so every time someone with said DLC is healing, and if the timed offer of said pack expires and isn't renewed then YOU have to pay a LOT of gold out of your own account, but if you can't afford the heal that you just used then your account is suspended for a lengthy amount of time.

[@clarvebiker3175]

been waiting for my first dose of the vax since April. I could win one in every case of Coors in the US. This country is dumb

[@depth386]

Activate Canadian housing markets, both real estate ownership and rentals.

[@drutang]

😂😂😂nice touch with the canadian flag intro! lmao hysterically!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@humorpalanta]

i wish we had this separately as a meme

[@herpderp9774]

I reckon you are bang on old man, just like with the Carriers getting everything good thrown at them to bump sales, submarines will start getting all the goodies and attention to sell them as a class to the masses. Just wait to start hearing the whinging carrier players when their VIP rug gets pulled out from under them when they are no longer the focus.

[@NukeFinity]

bet the sub torps take forever to actually sank the cv

[@CaramelMeako]

12:20 I am one of those! I've been watching since your WoT days back when I was just starting Highschool!

[@austink4712]

That Healthcare was way too effective to be free or Canadian. They would have just taken that last hit point through MAID

[@TroaBarton]

The Zao is just a really big, really angry Shimakaze. Set everyone on fire then disappear, and wait for the fool who uses their damage control.

[@TheExcessive1]

Enjoyed the Yukon clip. I happened to pick it up before all the drama unfolded and really enjoy playing it in ranked.

[@VosperCDN]

I'm Canadian, and I certainly approve of this video's pre-intro.

[@timeforgottenprince8271]

*Jingles thinks the rocket plane changes are for submarines* *meanwhile, Me:* Will I-401 Iona be playable as a sub? If anything could bring me back to WoWs, it would be an event to earn I 401 Iona as a submarine so I can complete the ARP collection.

[@codename1176]

This please

[@finderkeeper360]

Came for the well-thought-out analysis of the latest game changes, stayed for the Holy Grail reference (which dates me, dunnit?) and especially the wry laughter. Thanks, Jingles!

[@halliktom1]

"he sank the enemy carrier" is that legal??

[@MrAstrojensen]

Only in the last five minutes of the game...

[@1mol831]

Carriers die quite often, you gotta give carrier players credit for surviving a long time. And carriers don't often do lots of damage nowadays, most of the usefulness of a carrier is at spotting, especially spotting destroyers to make it difficult for the enemy to locate allied ships. Basically the carrier just exists to provide a tactical advantage.

[@The_Viscount]

911, what's your emergency? What do you mean you're being murdered? That's illegal. They can't do that.

[@zobayer1]

@@1mol831 yeah, until FDR appears.

[@1984Phalanx]

Jingles. I played this video for my newborn 3 day old baby and he loved it. Thank you.

[@user-xn4kt5zd9s]

One of the best parts of working nights, i see a jingles video usually when i get home. Jingles, you make amazing content & thanks for the years of entertainment

[@evanopos5]

That free healthcare joke tho XD. Bet ur southern neighbor don't notice that one coming, eh. Anyway, happy late Canada day for all Canadian viewers

[@Gladius-XC]

What was that? Sorry, I’m too busy working so I can afford health care!

[@evanopos5]

@@Gladius-XC just some random dudes drinking soy latte decided to throw money so everyone there will live happily and healthy, nothing to see here... Aight, off to the salt mines now so I can afford mine too.

[@TheMouseMasterYT]

What the heck? I thought only Carriers were supposed to be that sink-resistant.

[@1mol831]

wait till wg creates land based airfield, which is protected by some mountains so that shells cannot hit the airfield.

[@edmartin875]

DDs, Cruisers, and BBs are old hat to WG. Their favorite CVs are being joined by SSs.

[@hippypaul6687]

The nicest touch for me in this one was when he torped the carrier. He launched them without actually targetting the CV. Hence the CV didn't even think about evading and died for it.

[@dimdim4112]

He launched em exactly on the cv, it’s just a WG Replay bug not showing it. It’s a common replay bug

[@Jame5man]

Everyone: the changes to rocket planes make it easier for DD’s Me(who routinely gets 2 bomb hits a drop on DD’s): Wouldn’t know, haven’t noticed

[@ryanweidman6338]

what carriers do you play?

[@depth386]

Bomb? Not rocket?

[@ryanweidman6338]

@@depth386 no i mean what nation do they play. since I play Japanese carriers and only get two bombs a strike

[@depth386]

@@ryanweidman6338lol good one, but my Question was directed to the original comment by James Sylvestre. He says bomb hits.

[@ryanweidman6338]

@@depth386 oh so just a little misunderstanding, carrier plyer have to stick together after all

[@hdezn26]

9:00 Wait. . . did that Nevski try to shoot them torps?!

[@armorhide406]

That's what it looks like

[@alphawolfthepack3417]

*face palm* That Nevski is new i think judging by that move XD

[@lunsmann]

@@alphawolfthepack3417 - new? at T10? I think that Nevsky driver was just frustrated and fired his guns in frustration.

[@alphawolfthepack3417]

@@lunsmann maybe that also but considering he only took one out of 10 it prob rage or it was the *shit in pant* moment of the torps poping out of nowhere

[@hdezn26]

@@alphawolfthepack3417 Likely, lol

[@mjbull5156]

There is nothing more expensive than "free".

[@LordNiakon]

Also to be more realistic you should be put on an 8 to 12 month wait list when you go to heal.

[@Eon2641]

@buttpluggers are 2% yet 40% of kiddie touchers *sees username, checks channel* Oh, a homophobe, a fascist, AND you don't like healthcare? Will wonders never cease.

[@Eon2641]

@buttpluggers are 2% yet 40% of kiddie touchers my dudes coming out and admitting to being a nazi without prompting, cruel and stupid go hand in hand XD

[@HappyBacon777ttv]

Here is a theory for ya: They added the rocket planes attack mechanic purely because of Russian CVs. Why is that? The major "downside" to Russian CVs is the low hitpoint count for your attack squadron, which you only have one per attack. Let's see the Russian CV loadout though. Torpedo planes have a long arming distance on their CVs, so preferably you would want to launch them from a long distance, which means little to no planes being lost. Skip bombers have a long attack distance, which again, means that there will be very little planes lost during one of their attacks. But what about rocket planes? They have to close in the distance, which means according to the Russian CV "weakness", they should get absolutely shredded if they want to drop their attack. That's where this new mechanic comes from folks. You need to understand that when the planes are firing their machine guns, they are immune to damage. Therefore with Russian CVs they will be able to, again, close the distance without losing much planes and drop their attack.

[@pitdoctor]

I bet this is closer to the mark, beci Russian CVs will be on the live server before subs will be. The air spotting range on a sub is so tiny that unless someone else is spotting the sub, cvs are gonna have a hard time striking subs, because by the time the planes spot the sub, if you trigger your attack, you're probably going to have overshot the sub.

[@iamfodder1017]

I hope many thousands of players will join me in unceremoniously hitting the delete button the very first time they log in and find subs in random battles.

[@thepavl]

I have actually gotten the extra damage on my torps in my Zao captain just for the lols. The torps now have 27k damage

[@waltermelyon4300]

But the game has left the Zao behind according to the admiral of the derriere. Meanwhile, American cruisers above T5 with their citidel designed by two year olds are in danger of going the way of the dodo.

[@aurelian3268]

you know what else would be great Jingles? A simple spotting delay for all planes (just like with radar). this will allow cruisers and battleships to perform any gymnastics they need to dodge incoming strikes without being exposed to crossfires

[@NickySRT]

Man i miss 2017 wows.

[@andrjmolotov672]

you can go to server.

[@marcl.1346]

@@andrjmolotov672 What?

[@andrjmolotov672]

@@marcl.1346 my reply was: you can go to asia server. My reply was corrected by youtube, probably

[@The_Viscount]

Honestly, I love my Zao. I focus on using my decent detectibility to dictate when I can be shot at. I counteract the bad turret angles by timing my fire when I'm already hard over in a turn. By the time enemy shells reach me, I'm already moving away with minimal target profile. By the time I reload, my detection circle is nearly back to normal and I can repeat the process. I pop up, fire, fade out and repeat. She's a hard ship to play, but she rewards patience and careful positioning.

[@bergnj0314]

I was not ready for the "Activate free health care" LOL

[@MrRedRye]

While undoubtedly a step in the right direction, a downside of the new rocket plane mechanics is that after the strike is initiated the planes are invulnerable to AA. So for ships that have weak long rang AA but loads of small calibre mounts, they are practically useless against rocket planes as the strike comes in. One my cynically think this is a big help to the new Soviet CVs that only get a single strike with each squadron. I believe that bombers are still subject to the old 30% damage reduction when dropping.

[@brainletmong6302]

The planes surviving mean jackshit if they don't hit and any competent player can survive any non AP rocket strike with ease unless under significant pressure or in a large ship. It was QoL for DDs and serves its purpose.

[@starflame34]

Jingles, it took SEVERAL buffs before people started loving the Des Moines. They had to buff the armor, give it radar (yes, it did not have radar at the beginning), and reduce the reload from 6 seconds to 5.5.

[@MysterySemicolon]

I think you're spot on with the reason for the change. Examining Wargaming's decision making in the past it's always going to be a change that is intended to make their latest ideas look good and damn the old stuff. I just hope they limit numbers of subs and carriers to be the same. 2 max for each team. And I mean combined carriers and subs.

[@rebsredone450]

Interesting point about the Rocket Attack plane change. Sounds reasonable. And ofc this is Jingles: all the CVs torpedoes actually hit. Only two of them armed though….

[@aaronmonke6825]

If it was truly Canadian healthcare he would have had to wait some time before the ship started repairing.

[@pallegantzhorn3742]

Atleast Zao is still one of the sexiest ships of wows

[@nattybumpo7156]

I thought Takao was a monster.

[@liesdamnlies3372]

As a Canadian, I very much appreciated that intro.

[@naja2270]

I tell you one thing the Zao does superbly, with a stealth build you can get within torp range of enemy ships without being spotted.......

[@sleepygryph]

They removed being able to force all divebombs into the destroyer, they removed slingshoting, increased the drop time of bombs. What really kills DDs and has always been the real killer is focus fire. Yes a CV could invest a lot of time into killing a DD but when your target indicator jumps from 0 to 4, 5 and even higher your health tends to evaporate.

[@tonyennis1787]

The intro made my heart swell with proximity-pride

[@JB-ys5bf]

Its likely the same reason why the dutch airstrikes don't use less bombs that just drop on a target instead of floating down. They smash anything that can't just dive out of the way

[@erinfogerty3843]

Nice Monty Python reference, almost lost some coffee on that.

[@timeforgottenprince8271]

0:26 so what exactly was said there? I heard "without a paddle," but that was all I could understand. Edit: Now I got it: "I'd say you four boys are up fart creek without a paddle."

[@AdamtheRed-]

Yeah that South Park Canadian dialect is pretty weird sounding

[@Zappyguy111]

You're little chat about the destroyers coming back just reminds me of the tale of how the wolves moved the rivers in Yellowstone National Park.

[@kc9602]

Subs MUST have their OWN battle-tab. Pure and Simple!!

[@Emeralds60601]

Ironically, in trying to make carriers less torturous for wargamings new posterchild they have increased the number of destroyers which are supposed to be a direct counter to submarines, so wargaming is probably going to meet their destiny on the road their taking to avoid it.

[@fuzztsimmers3415]

im betting the changes in the numbers of battleships is more due to people leaving

[@zobayer1]

This doesn't represent at all what ive been seeing in Asia server this week.

[@Kloran27]

I played a game the other day that was 3 (or 4) DDs, 1 (yes, really, one) BB, and the rest were cruisers.

[@wtpiv6041]

Well as a BB main it’s not such a pleasant environment and hasn’t been for some time. Of course I mean AP BBs. HE spamming BBs do not apply but when your shells barely hit due to dispersion, you attract every plane in the vicinity. And every torpedo finds it way to you, it’s a good idea to hang up the captain hat. Oh and of course the HE spam… and now add on subs that will hunt BBs as they are nothing more than a damage sponge. There’s really no point in playing BBs anymore and hasn’t been for some time.

[@ricgetz7422]

I think you are spot on about the change. It makes too much sense.

[@andreikovaci1202]

Oh ofc that you are right Jingles. I would argue that even "deadyee" and shafting of the secondaries was aimed at that aforementioned upcoming class. Keeping the babbies as away from those pesky circles (aka caps), as possible. Btw I had quite a few run ins with Moggytwo on the forum on the subject of Cv's :). Arguing in favour of the airbuses is.....quite an uphill and unwinnable argumentation. Everybody knows it. Still I give him credit because he tries ( even if, is a perfect job for Quwat Millat) and also tries to do it civil.

[@Thermalions]

Someone should give those Canadian Damage Control Crews a pay rise.

[@mikemccann7510]

I'm a Canadian, and I approve this intro. :)

[@ropp4971]

As a carrier based player.. (flying cancer) I it sucked at first to get use to the mechanics of leading the targets more. But it was a refreshing challenge. Its been way to easy to play carriers to a point that I get burned out playing the same way all the time. I missed the times where I could do my own scout planes and repair management. They made playing carriers unskilled playable boats. And I've been playing more dds ( a boat that doesn't suit my style of game) more. With the change I've been liking it more. So coming from one of the carrier players I say that your prediction for subs and dds are on target. Looking forward to more videos and hope to catch you on one day. Have a great day!!

[@scottsmith1525]

Imagine a strategy game such as chess that dates back hundreds if years, but every so often the rules change on what pieces can do what, and new more bigger better pieces get added. I give you WoWS

[@ambassadorofreee3859]

Gotta agree with our gnome overlord here, the new kid is coming to the block so WG is gonna make their stay as nice and comfy as possible.

[@DarrenWinsett]

I'm so glad they adjusted the rocket attack planes delay.

[@gearz2570]

i just recently got Zao.... nice to see a Zao replay 2 days later!

[@neomotau6127]

i reset my IJN cruiser line cos i wanted to get research points cos i wanted the Ohio ,only to discover that you you have to grind lines multiple times to get enough points to get a research bureau ship😭😭😭😭....screw that i want my Zao back

[@gearz2570]

@@neomotau6127 pain

[@dixievfd55]

I have played BBs enough to know the pain of having the long reload and watching your shells hit everywhere but where you aimed your shot.

[@ronaldvandenboogaardt4408]

Uncle Jingles, Can you please make a video(s) or audio where you talk about your favorite moments in life? Ps. Thank you for another great meditation! Infinite Love

[@impaledbunny]

Intro is just perfect!

[@speed150mph]

As a Canadian, I love that pre intro. That was awesome 👏😂

[@stevenhaffner3299]

Some Canadians were harmed by this video. My lawyers will be in touch with you shortly.

[@bumweaselsr]

As a Canadian, I object to that pre-vid. It won't be tea, its dunking the Tim Horton's donut in the Canadian beer Jingles.

[@tonycarter4862]

Just goes to show we Canadians will approve anything that has a good cuppa and the Canadian anthem playing!

[@Matthew10950]

I'm a real live Canadian, and I approve this message.

[@twreks543]

As a CV player I can't wait for Jiggles to shift to "I Hate Subs! They scratch my BB paint!"

[@Disciplyne]

Jingles, as you've stated, the Zao is not the easiest to play anymore against all of the newer offerings. However, ConradQD did a great job of showing its strengths and that it's not destined to be a port queen if played properly. As for you stated opinion regarding why the attack plane changes were made, I do agree and think that facilitates the intro of subs as with more recent proposed changes that are designed for aiding them, such as the removal of hydrophones from destroyers. This proposed removal would negate the advantages that several German dd and others had against a broad group, and seems to be a matter of applying a proverbial sledge hammer to a two penny nail.

[@dy031101]

Instead of being oppressed by CVs, the vast majority of DDs I've seen on my team so far are now just suiciding within the first two minutes of a match or *all* resolutely hiding in smokescreens until everybody else is pummeled to death while blind, by which point they have no hope of winning on their own.

[@Grygus_Triss]

10:20 Moggytwo isn’t from the NA server, he’s from the SEA/ASIA server. The game on Tuesday was played on the SEA sever (I recognised the clan names). While Moggytwo does have an NA account, he’s only just got enough games on it to use the NA forums. Many on SEA have an alternate NA account just to allow themselves to interact with the larger community. That said, it was Moggytwo who made that topic, because he made the same topic on the SEA server. And I also pointed out on the SEA server post that since he only had two weeks of data, there may be other reasons. More BB players playing in Grand Battles for instance.

[@UNSCrearadmiral]

Beginning clip shows the power of Maple Syrup

[@jaywerner8415]

Jingles, one thing about the rocket changes thats kinda bullshit, once the strafing starts, your planes are IMMUNE to damage. So its like "Whats the point of AA". On a more positive note, SUBS CAN RECHARGE THEIR DIVE CAP WHEN ON THE SURFACE, THANK YOU WARGAMING!

[@zijkhal8356]

my feelings through this vid: Oh, gameplay is in a healthier place than ever, I may consider coming back! Oh, right, submarines are coming, nevermind about coming back

[@williamheayn3760]

The change was likely meant to benefit both submarines and destroyers. After all, Destroyers were historically the primary defense against subs. they would need more space to do their work, hence rocket delays.

[@HarverTheSlayer]

I'd like to add something to what Jingles said about the rocket plane change, regarding the submarines' arrival. Correct me if I'm wrong, because I haven't exactly followed the news about the development of the new class, but IIRC the best ships at dealing with subs will be destroyers and (light) cruisers. The change to rocket attack planes brought with it a resurgeance of DDs and cruisers, the ones best suited to deal with subs, which in turn will help keep them in check and defend BBs against them. Of course, once submarines appear, you'd expect their counters to reappear anyway but, if they can just get anally devastated by CVs (which, at the same time, can deal decently with subs). you'd end up with even MORE CVs, more subs (since people wouldn't play their counters that much), and anything inbetween that would feel less miserable to play with at the moment. With this change, which might make CVs worse at dealing with subs and keep more fragile ships in the game, it might also mean that the latter actually can do what they're expected to do much better and keep the game decently balanced. Of course, that's only if WG have actually thought that much, but maybe I'm giving them too much credit.

[@schiefer1103]

I think you are, as far as I know the last sub test showed that the time required to submerge is higher than the time you have to evade the rockets.

[@MrThenorwood]

Yeah, the submarine theory fits. Also, the Hayate can do 4 X 5 12km torps if you fit the reload booster.

[@mikefoxtrot1157]

What you are saying Jingles is perfectly reasonable, i also would like to add that the change was also implemented to powercreep the older CVs. One of the reasons people played these CVs was to counter DDs. German CVs are already better at doing damage against bigger targets anyway. Also why power creep you ask, just like this change coincides with SSs this also coincides with Soviet CVs which are armed which skip bombers, once they get launched we are going to see skip bombers being used against DDs. Basically skip bombers are the new rocket planes as landing bombs on DDs on the first bounce line is just as quick as rocket planes, and we all know how powerful these skip bombs are

[@nottoday3817]

I am not sure if landing the bombs on the first bounce is going to be effective. don't they need to bounce twice?

[@mikefoxtrot1157]

@@nottoday3817 nope activated with or without bounce, basically WG saying CV players to get on with the program and start using the new Soviet CVs

[@nottoday3817]

@@mikefoxtrot1157 Wasn't aware of that. However, I'm not sure it's going to be enough. I've been following the devblogs on Soviet CVs. They were questionably bad and they've just made them even worse.

[@foobar1979]

I think the rocket change was to ease pressure on DD so they could counter SS without getting nuked by rockets. The biggest complaint about DD being the only counter to SS was that they had to go into the riskiest position in order to do it. I think this change addressed that.

[@MrHariSheldon]

Speaking of Zao's AP shells: I like to, in the later part of a battle, charge with her into the enemies and then I usually switch to AP, often surprising BB players who don't expect a cruiser using AP against them. Sadly, I am not a very good player, so that I often don't survive long enough to make this final "Banzai push" more than occasionally.

[@thebedknobs]

Submarines…I’ve got a sinking feeling 🤣

[@ScottKenny1978]

USS Archerfish says "hi" with 10 torpedoes. To IJN Shinano. 😈

[@Dukenukem]

the delay is 5s on FDR, even some battleships can "just dodge" now. my Rocket planes are now on spotting only mode as they are next to useless (they can still hit GK, but that is about it)

[@heatplays6270]

Yea we have been using them to keep hallands and smalands lit during CB since they cant damage you during the attack animation

[@jamessapp4989]

I think the change is to benefit the new and upcoming Soviet CVs.