World of Warships- What Battleship Line Is Right For You In 2024?

[@Cerberus0076]

Timing is essential for brawling, that's correct. Start to early,and you're going to be ripped apart by everyone and their mom's focus fire. Start too late,and theres not much left over, since everyone is behind an island,or fleeing. Somewhere in between, there's a sweet spot,when Enemy DD s entering caps, and Enemy team tries to push.. Sometimes the "psychological effect"of a full seccondary built German Bb,is enough to make em overthink their decision 😂

[@grayboats7741]

Still at the over aggressive, solo target phase myself.

[@ryanmackey7798]

At what tier do you think going to a secondary build would be “worth” it?

[@Cerberus0076]

@@ryanmackey7798 Somewhere around tier 7/8, imoo, enough range to be effective,since they/you get close enough

[@ryanmackey7798]

@@Cerberus0076 any other nations that also have good secondary battery options?

[@Cerberus0076]

@@ryanmackey7798 Geemans... Stick with Germans when it comes to secondaries 😉

[@googuslorenzo]

I always had a bone to pick with how the British battleships were portrayed in the game. The whole Royal Navy doctrine was to have heavier armour to get in close to the enemy, sacrificing speed (while in game they get smashed for showing even a little bit of ankle). That's why they are generally slower than other contemporary ships like the Richelieu, Littorio, Iowa, etc. Their AP in real life was actually really good compared to the pathetic shells we see in game (in relation to pen).

[@st3gosaurus]

agreed, most british battleships were slow but very heavily armored, and had excellent ap.

[@googuslorenzo]

@@st3gosaurus Yeah, the KGVs had a 15 inch belt at the waterline. The only belt in WW2 that was thicker than that was Yamato's 16 inch belt yet in WOWS the KGV is a pancake.

[@thomasbird1463]

Cope

[@fighter5583]

Shouldn't be a surprise given how much firepower the soviets get, many of which are completely fictional because the USSR was mostly a land power.

[@gesalbte]

Video summary Secondary-battery brawlers: Preussen line Schlieffen line Kremlin line Mid-range battleship: Montana line Vermont line Louisiana line Conqueror line St Vincent line Colombo line (a terrible line to grind) Republique line Sniper battleships: Yamato line (a decent grind) Bungo line

[@sebulller]

Yamato is best used at mid range... Vermont is very very scary but to slow... i would use it for sniping in the opening stages... than go middle... else skip it. Conqueror line can actually brawl and be a good sniper... (terrible grind though) So my list would look like this. skip the Krimlin useless junk anyways. Preussen and Schlieffen get them. Mid range. Yamato St Vincent COlombo really french? ahh fine whatever (insert stupid french ship here) SNipers Montana (best ship for this kinda thing if you can aim) Bungo.

[@gesalbte]

@@sebulller I brawl with Yamato regardless. Secondary build FTW

[@sebulller]

@@gesalbte ohh yeah you can. That is why mid range. So you can close the distance when needed.

[@Norbrookc]

I didn't mind playing the Colorado that much when I got it, but what I did mind was how *much* you have to play the Colorado. It's the only one where you have to grind a lot for not just one, but two extra battleship lines.

[@R4ZORLIGHT]

Yes they should buff this thing already.

[@Norbrookc]

@@R4ZORLIGHT I'd prefer if they'd shift the hybrids to another ship. It's one thing to grind the over 100K for the main line, and then again for the second line, but then you have to do it all over again for the third line? I have more than enough free XP to jump the line, but then again, I haven't heard much good from other players about the hybrids.

[@broccanmacronain457]

I actually like my Colorado, the New Mexico on the other had sux!

[@Norbrookc]

@@broccanmacronain457 I rather like it myself. As I said, the only thing that irritates me is that when (or if) you try to grind the other tech lines in the American BB's, you have to start back at 0 with it for the next line...twice.

[@Carbon_Based_Life_Form]

​@@Norbrookcthey should just let us unlock all 3 lines simultaneously. Or at least cut the 2nd and 3rd grind it half.

[@a.nichols626]

As a German BB main I notice too many other BBs sitting behind islands doing nothing. Don't understand the mindset of parking behind a mountain where you can't shoot anything your DD spots. Really frustrating when there are multiple ships parked behind the island for AA support but still not helping. Best way to use islands is just to break LOS right after firing and circling back over and over. Not trying to park on the beach.

[@WeisheitenundTipps]

I think Brawlers are the hardest to play because you need to understand which time to start brawling!

[@mertc8050]

Yep it requires iq

[@cheeseburgerapocalypse2604]

You'll never be a brawler if you are playing on Asia server

[@subodhsrinivasamurthy6866]

@@cheeseburgerapocalypse2604 Its true

[@mertc8050]

@@cheeseburgerapocalypse2604 lmao

[@quor2243]

It depends, if you have a solid team you can start off right behind your DD and get up in the action. Many players still hate to have secondaries raining on them and run and hide, so as long as you have support you can push early. No support and get focused on, you're dead. I like the main line German BBs for this reason, they're more tanky and if you push a bit to soon you can survive a bit longer with hope support follows your sacrifice.

[@jamierife7789]

German BBs all the way for brawling, with an occasional Massachusetts if I'm in an "Anchors Aweigh" mood.

[@dashsocur]

I accidentally stumbled into the British Battlecruiser line. I took a very long hiatus from the game and got the Tiger for free as a "Welcome Back" present. Decided to try it before I sold it and loved it. I never would have given it a shot otherwise (gave up on the main British line at the Orion) but I'm so glad they prompted me to try it.

[@Kenny212_2]

i have NO idea where you get the idea that the italian BB line is a terrible line to grind, i LOVED every single one of them and enjoyed every second of going up that line, and no im not being a troll or anything when saying this, i actually love that line.

[@wedgeantilles3983]

Battleships peak at tier 8. Once you hit 9 and 10 theres so many auto loading smoke and hill hiders that your just an xp and damage pinata feeding everyone else. Hence why theres such a passive long range meta, approaching anywhere near the halfway line at top tier just gets you perma spotted and burned/torped down and you cant do anything about it.

[@malguskerensky]

Great overall Battleship review! My personal favorites: USN Primary BB line (typical armored, decent speed, good guns), IJN Primary BB line (Solid speed, ok armor, longer range play style, kiting ships), RN Secondary Line (torps and guns, weaker armor, fast, medium range), German Secondary Line (brawl, fast ships, weaker armor, and torps)

[@Norbrookc]

I finished grinding the British lines a little while ago, and the one thing that I kept thinking was that the secondary line was actually better overall than the main line. Regarding the torps, once in a while you get something with them, but since you have to be pretty much broadside in some tiers or only have one in the upper, I often felt like it fell into the "why did you bother?" category. I don't know about the upper tiers of IJN ships (I haven't ground that far up), but at least through tier 7, they're my least favorite line.

[@paddington1670]

IJN BBs are good if you stay far away and can actually hit something but as soon as you get close they suffer@@Norbrookc

[@Norbrookc]

@@paddington1670 It's the "can actually hit something" that's the problem at any range.

[@malguskerensky]

@@Norbrookc With IJN main line, until tier 9-10, you want to always be moving, so you may miss more shots. You want to kite tier 7 and lower ships, try to get the rear turrets involved even at the expense of the front turrets. Sneak in those broadsides off and then cut the rudder over hard; while at 15+ km away from the main battle. Yes you tend to miss a bit more, but the guns are more long range and quicker to fire to cover up the dispersion issues.

[@TheJoe7Six]

I've been playing since beta and only recently have I finished the Montana and Yamato lines. I was dreading Izumo, but I really enjoyed grinding it. I was still glad to finally get the Yamato though. And while I do have Satsuma, I think I enjoy Yamato more.

[@jackcrawford6078]

"Battleships? never had any use for em. *Didn't say I didn't know how to Use em." Admiral Quigley

[@denispennec3615]

Great description of all the lines!

[@GreggFellows]

if you want some fun grab a German BB and go brawling

[@JarlSeamus]

I actually like Schleiffen, and have pretty good luck in it. The Preussen line, however I found really painful.

[@MartialEmperor6344]

Schlieffen doesn't require luck truth be told the pruessen requires luck and in sheer amounts and actually schleiffen is a busted ship it can adapt well in every game mode as long as your not like a complete dimwit the average potato can perform well off in the Schlieffen

[@gothamgoon4237]

First thing you have to learn as a new player playing BB's is that your armour and angle means squat in this game. Everyone just fires and spams HE in this game and HE completely bypasses any armour regardless of thickness or angle. Everyone just spams it for 20 minutes straight, even bb's, usually from inside smoke or behind an island and starts endless fires. He spam, torp spam, homing torp spam or shotgun torp spam from invisible subs and of cause the unending waves of planes from cv's that pump them out like factories which you can do absolutely nothing against. Good luck new players.

[@mettjaeger]

Maybe try moving instead of sitting at the end of the map and doing nothing?? It would be way easier to dodge planes and torps this way. And if you support your cruisers, they could actually do their job and kill enemy DDs and light cruisers. Oh and if you actually stay near your cruisers, their AA could protect you as well :)

[@cod4fun1]

​@@mettjaeger well said 👏

[@julianfan5794]

Nah, you should be more worried about SAP

[@vc559]

​​@@mettjaegerthis is exactly what you will experience if you try to move, instead of staying behind islands. Also staying near cruisers is exactly staying behind and not pushing

[@Zaron_Gaming]

you have to talk about low tier ships more. i'm looking at the best to START not tier X. Tier 1-5 is critical to know. Show more gameplay of lower tier ships please.

[@tizme6105]

@Zaron_Gaming I am in a similar position with my low to mid-tier ships. However the problem arises that while all of these experienced players have an incredible amount of extremely useful knowledge to impart, they passed through our tier levels long ago. I firmly believe that a coordinated effort by several players who are currently passing through mid to upper levels know firsthand what difficulties and mindsets we currently face down here rather than recalling memories from years ago. Training of new members is not well supported in WOWS but relies on keen 'older' players telling us what to expect when we finally break through the often lonely low to mid tier learning barriers. Some YT contributors will relate how they "ground through a line to tier 8" in one day - yeah right - show us how the hell you did that from scratch !!

[@mikedignum1868]

I went down the British line when I first started...mainly because I'm British...I like to brawl.

[@davidlennyman444]

Being from Canada I also immediately went for British BBs despite wanting to brawl. I’ve learned to just be content with renown as she’s as close as you’ll get in a tier where you won’t be punished very hard for misplays

[@TheStygian]

​@@davidlennyman444 I'd never say the British Battlecruisers are good brawlers, BUT - They do have those disgusting little gyroscoping torpedoes that do very well in close encounters. Combined with their ridiculous damage and you got yourself a little pocket dev strike.

[@mertc8050]

I sec built my vincent and it kinda works lmao

[@MartialEmperor6344]

Well play them mid to long range and they do pretty well they r not made to brawl but the battlecruisers do have underwater nukes and underwater citadel at toptier

[@R4ZORLIGHT]

They need to nerf CVs to make brawling and more aggressive play viable again. Reduce the damage to ships that get attacked over and over again by the CV (like they are testing) and ships spotted by CVs should only be visible on the mini map.

[@ElusiveClit]

Lovely video. Just started couple of days ago. Is there any complete real money shop guide explained what is worth to buy, what to wait for discounts etc. Thank you.

[@mettjaeger]

18:31 The Vermont "Sledgehammer" fires a full salvo on a cruiser and doing 1,7k dmg, while the cruiser in return deals 12,7k dmg.

[@jamesharrington001]

I really think they shout tweak the American BB lines, now what I mean by that is make the spilt come off of the New Mex. Colorado being the first ship in the Fattleships, add a proto NC 3x3 14" guns for the fast BB line, and the Avation BB line coming off of the NC line.

[@waynemathews6494]

i can brawl with all nations bb in game some better then others but they can all brawl if u pay attention to where other ships are and your dd spot so u have a good idea where things are and use islands as cover even a lower tier bb can make a bigger one cry for mommy if u can get him looking the wrong way

[@ronpatava]

I think the Yamato has the worst Play style in the game currently. 90% of them sit at max range and never leave their spawn points. I personally love to brawl even with Montana, great video

[@robdgaming]

I've noticed you favor long-range BBs like Yamato, and you even once recommended a main battery build for Preussen. I personally can't hit/pen well enough at range, esp with pen RNG being what it is. The only BBs I have consistent success with are the secondary ships. Although they're also the only ones I play a lot.

[@suryia6706]

Great Vid. I wish i had started on BB's but nooo, I had to do cruisers. Big mistake 😂

[@cyberwaste]

Play the Italians first. Do it.

[@theGoogol]

😂

[@AllroundSwizzy]

I did. Not having too much fun with them 😅

[@minkster5054]

I'm a bit confused. After not playing for many years, i went down the russian bb line. I'm up to the vladivostok and I kinda agree with survivability- however dispersion has been horrendous right down the entire line for me. Its supposed to be better at short range, but even at 8-10 km at slow or stationary targets most shells miss. Ive tried a main battery build and a secondary build but the dispersion is so bad to begin with the small gains arent worth it. Were you just referencing the Kremlin? because i'm not seeing it.

[@sealordmountbatten]

It does happen up and down the line, the gimmick doesn’t always work for some reason or another

[@brucenlong]

Thanks for the info!

[@ach5477]

I don't know why but I enjoyed all the italian lines

[@Skullpatroler]

The Vermont is not as forgiving as a GK. Many times been hit for 50k on my slow ass Vermont never in my life has Gk been hit that hard and it much harder to play. You can’t just in in secondary range and do good damage. You need to be aware of the map and just like the GK soon as you fire you are the target. Unlike the GK though the Vermont can’t fight back as fast and discourage the advance. Also for some reason the Vermont shells love to shatter in places where my GK can pen.

[@xzarial6652]

Great list as always!

[@spiffywolf2850]

Id play this game more if I had people to play with but I enjoy the info, I love my Kremlin even if it feels a bit power crept at times and I enjoy the Conq cause hehe I burn u. Working down German BC line. After than might try one of the snipey lines if i ever get there.

[@OliverButOllie]

I perfer the German Battlecruisers rather than the German Battleship main line. Even though Preussen has bigger guns and a bigger HP pool, Schlieffen has crazy secondaries and easier to manouver, and Schlieffen can be an absolute monster if you have Lutjens.

[@Zzz-zb9ro]

the starting aim made me scratch my head he added that intentionally

[@topiahead]

Will you be doing a video like this for all class?

[@sealordmountbatten]

Mayhaps

[@kaollachan]

i love alsace , i use a mixte of main gun and increase of secondary range ( just to use the CC reload time on main gun)

[@MartialEmperor6344]

Yeh both things r decent on the french line..u shoot for days and hope for the best

[@Mboyd203]

What’s your opinion on the Pan-American bbs? aren’t they designed to be brawlers?

[@wonderer.r4062]

I currently have battleships of tier 8 For me the best ships are Nebraska Lenin Valdivostok

[@gotfrydzbouillon4191]

Republique with hybrid of Heavy AP build and Reload+Seconadries build.

[@MartialEmperor6344]

Well u shoot for days and hope for the best and yeh Repub is pretty fun

[@nucleus_underfire4666]

0:00 "Who doesn't like battleships?" This goes to show just how biased the community is in favor of this class.

[@drakeconsumerofsoulsandche4303]

Minor correction,the british BCs have standard HE pen

[@Axel23410]

Doesnt change anything tbh Having improved pen on BB guns at higher tier doesnt cross any important threshold

[@fresshell3411]

I grinded Yamato and Bungo, never again. Crusiers are badass

[@crazykev5]

Is the Russian bb worth going down in 2024? I've been enjoying the t6 germanbattle cruiser.

[@MartialEmperor6344]

Yes they r pretty tanky to the point that they can take some pretty heavy hits but u have ti play them at mid to short ranges because of their main guns formula cause it gets better as the range decreases and gets worse as it increases and past 14-15 km they have German BB dispersion which means all shells land at the four corners of the map...so basically Soviet ones r tailor made for mid to short range fights so if u like that gameplay then they r pretty nice to play...in ranked and now mode shuffle of course but in randoms they r well ok

[@itsmebatman]

Every time I play my Alsace I'm surprised just how much damage these 15 inch guns do over the course of a match. This boat slaps. At first I thought: "looks like an Iowa with worse guns" but it feels completely different. Its big downside is the pathetic French armor scheme. This boat takes so much damage from HE spam and also from normal AP penetrations. Can't really do any tanking.

[@hadriench3402]

French BB techline is totally out of date, and it's now no worth to grind it except if you've already up all the other BB tech line

[@itsmebatman]

@@hadriench3402 Arguably old, original Japanese and US BB lines are even more out of date. Doesn't mean they are unplayable.

[@sebulller]

So Brawling is really easy. If a match takes around 30mins than you go brawling around 10min mark. Snipe away and cry about it. Sniping ships i would use. Is Yamato and Montana. They are exellent for that. Yamato is a bit meh in that regard... Yamato does best being in middle and making things go away. However that does mean you die very very quickly and things usially stays alive. So she is best used with a few brawlers for supporting fire when those brawlings ships are charging! Montana yeah that is a nasty ship however the kaliber of its guns does mean you have to be very good at shooting at stuff. Especially at loong ranges! Now a middle battle ship like Mid range... those are just being killed really quickly i am very sorry. But you do not whant a kremlin these days. TO BIG CAN BEE SEEN FROM ORBIT will die horribly. Unless ofc you can use it... Wich means you are a farming target prio nr1 for the enemy cause of the health pool... Brawling ships are nasty in cloose range.. ofc look at the map when playing. To know when to go in is to basickly win the game. Problem is you are going to be alone alot! So best thing you can do is actually support your people with loong range and than mid range and than TOTALLY GO IN AND SCREAM BANZAAAI! or whatever. So this is order. Hang back-go middle-go into their face and make them regret their life and question their life choises. ohh with brawlers use HE at loong range and at mid range shift to ap. At brawling range USE AP!!!

[@sargisshirinyan207]

Love these videos

[@ElmwoodCertified]

Solid Vid Sealord!

[@yamazakinozaki9804]

BB Stalingrad is not included?😢

[@paulrasmussen8953]

He is talking about the free ships

[@yamazakinozaki9804]

@@paulrasmussen8953 oh i see.

[@svtv_9615]

How does the Iowa rank?

[@paulrasmussen8953]

Lion wasn't too bad monarch is the painful one

[@DRSpillard]

So in summary, BB aren’t good, ok

[@richardwilliams3152]

When you talk about the American "super heavy AP" are you using the heavy AP commander skill?

[@sealordmountbatten]

No, the shell itself is a special shell known as Mk8 SHAP

[@MartialEmperor6344]

It is a type of gimmick for the USN BBs and heavy cruiser line

[@paulrasmussen8953]

Just call the 2nd us BB line the tilman line, its in that vein

[@MartialEmperor6344]

The mighty Brick line😂🎉

[@davidconlin32]

i want the Arizona

[@kingofcastlechaos]

Do a video on the tiny quirks of each line and one on each map and the best way to play them. The constant review rehashes are getting old (been with you since

[@BlackHearthguard]

Hang on, I thought GK was your highest played ship?

[@grimmhammertv3365]

that moment went you thought you sent the "gud" vermont replay, and you didnt....*not like this* 🙃

[@motaz1975]

lets play battleshits! harold and kumar lol!

[@Balanar6236]

This is an awesome video and very helpful! It would be great if you could make a similar video for other ship types, destroyers and cruisers at least.

[@mile_381]

republique or yamato for beginner?

[@MartialEmperor6344]

Well it depends on the role u want to play the Montana line and to some extent the Kremlin line are ideal for beginners

[@temery94]

Best tier 10 German bb is still the GK

[@davidconlin32]

teir 4 through tier 8

[@jonathoncopeland7492]

On console my favorite three cruisers are Exeter, Belfast, and Plymouth. Use like battleships but I find my self enjoying cruisers more. If I was pick three battleships it would be Alabama, Florida, and Texas.

[@JDSFLA]

1:12 There is a red DD last spotted at G1 so I don't know why you have not turned back before you eat two torps. Doesn't matter what BB you are in if you don't have better situational awareness.

[@brady9320]

i binge watch all your videos super drunk my main BB is the florida can you give a review in 2024??

[@caifrank7425]

how to get the full of WOWS tree tech for 2024

[@geehammer1511]

Drinking game : every time SLM says "Battleship" drink a shot. Good luck! lol

[@littlefaith8740]

You like battleships?? Who would have seen that coming 😉

[@paulross1768]

Italians BBs on top...Thats the only correct answer

[@mungo7136]

Hate battleships and game "random" and rigging for AI controlled ships. Played several Operations in Bismarck / Scharnhorst constantly wiped out by cruisers and DDs that were laughing in the middle of my splashes while constantly eating my HPs. Made hit for 2000 (and constant miss, overpenetration, ricochet) and played by 3000+. Any DD can charge you, run to 3000m from you and shotgun you with torps while you cannot hit him as every f*** shot just hits water. Turrets turn forever. When shooting even at Tier4 BBs (form Tier7/8 !!!) - ricochet, overpenetration, few HP down. Return salvo regardless the angle ate thousands of my HPs. Again, again and again. Any stupid cruiser can run circles around you and keep spamming you with HEs. Did it so many times. Took Tier6 Dorsetshire to same matchmaking and effortlessly made more damage, just spamming HEs

[@thematrixredpill]

Says British battle cruiser line is good. The st. Vincent is the best bb/bc in the game.

[@anzacmerc4hire781]

Day 1 of watching @Angeltrust76 asking sealord Mountbatten to make a WoWs replay playlist

[@scootypooper]

hello

[@BugattiONE666]

How about you simply shouldnt be playing Battleships in 2024? HE spamming is the only one of the 3 metas BBs can do and their either bad at it, or a cancer to the game and shouldnt be advised at all, so you might as well play a Cruiser

[@Paleorunner2]

I can't bring myself to play Japanese ships.

[@davidconlin32]

i have teir 4 american german british and france i got the south american battle ship

[@dennisboulais7905]

I love to torp BB's! lol

[@dominikdolejsi1088]

North carolina is bad ship.

[@chiracultrainstinct3d629]

lol. You just don’t know how to play it

[@dominikdolejsi1088]

@@chiracultrainstinct3d629 , it is not universal, if you have bad match, you gona do nothing

[@chiracultrainstinct3d629]

@@dominikdolejsi1088like in any ship in random.

[@dominikdolejsi1088]

@@chiracultrainstinct3d629 yes, but North carolina have everything worse

[@loonowolf2160]

I'm not a wows player and never will be one

[@sabrewolf4129]

What's best in 2024 is the uninstallation of the game and find something else.

[@hornm67]

I hate battleships, they are big, slow, hard to turn and not really usefull in naval combat. Plus you are asking for a like and subscribe without showing any content, the ultimate sin of any youtuber!

[@michaelkeaton5394]

5:11 why does the preussen here get the proper paint job when the Bismarck doesn't have his accurate paint job (the paint was also on the superstructure not only the hull)