World Record Progression: Pokemon Red/Blue speedruns

[@johnsimon8457]

That bike text skip - game assumes you to buy a bike and glitches when you don’t. Pokémon RB is held together with duct tape and wishful thinking.

[@KnuxMaster368]

At least the English versions. The Japanese Blue version is quite solid.

[@ricbradley5323]

I remember both clearly. Yellow changed my world because "pikachu " could talk lmao

[@XMysticHerox]

Patsy Patarchy amazing. Maybe. As long as you don‘t consider the inhumane hours the devs had to pull for that.

[@rageldith9600]

Just, wow

[@ThaDuDeMaN1]

i just cant believe they dont allow the bike glitch but they allow the RNG manipulation... id argue thats way bigger of a glitch.... from slightly faster text to removing all important RNG.... i dunno... they both should be out of a glitchless run

[@bentoomet8805]

Imagine your son tells you he’s leaving to become the Pokémon champion and he’s back for lunch.

[@SgtSega]

Professor Oak with Ash's mom: Well this is akward.

[@SpiralPoli]

@@SgtSega Oak to Ash: DOIN YOUR MOM

[@TheModdedwarfare3]

Aww my kid gave up so quick. Wait... he did it?

[@TheGnarTube]

he definitely is gay because didnt spend any time with misty

[@franciscoaugustomussnich1050]

Lol

[@DStecks]

I absolutely love that the Pokemon speedrun strategy is exactly the same strategy you employed as a 7-year old: just use your starter for every fight

[@jongledringen474]

Did...did you watch the video?

[@BobblyTubber]

Pomemon lol

[@pondscum9363]

@calypso no, that's the 8th gen meta

[@senorlechuga8832]

@@pondscum9363 Nah the meta for 8th gen is Dynamax. It's the win button

[@15r52]

@@senorlechuga8832 gen 8 is straight garbage

[@wyattclough6204]

For anyone curious, the current record for this category as of today is 1:45:21 held by pokeguy. Edit: Apparently it’s now Hwangbro with 1:45:05.

[@hush-615]

It's pretty unbelievable that it's remained unbeaten for 2 years.

[@hush-615]

@@El_Kanto I'm gonna assume that my comment was the blessing this speedrunner needed to attain the new world record. You're welcome, new world record holder. Kidding aside, that's amazing by them.

[@sidosh2229]

For anyone curious, 25 runners currently have a better PB than the WR was back then :D

[@DarkAngelEU]

@@El_Kanto Gunner once said that sub 45 is impossible, but this is just five seconds more. Sub 45 is alive!

[@Justinicus24]

Hes my buddy

[@esn_64]

Amazing, he gets 18 encounters and still manages to get a world record

[@mvrrko]

so true

[@joshuabradberry9823]

ESN 64 that’s having so many dice rolls go your way. I run red and yellow also. Enough crits and good random red bar scenarios. Runs could get SUPER low.

[@spicywater8701]

Joshua Bradberry can I see your runs?

[@yummypoop3131]

@@spicywater8701 His runs are for the lady's eyes only lmao

[@xxxxxxxx183]

Why didnt they use repel?

[@WereDictionary]

"Wertster's general strategy was to make it through the game with the minimum that was required" - me at work

[@rogehmarbi]

My life tenet in a nutshell

[@DonTinker]

- 2020 in a nutshell

[@karmasupreme7973]

Me doing homework:

[@JuicemanGravy]

#exposed

[@rurens2]

Just dont be surprised when you also turn out to be the bare minimum.

[@258thHiGuy]

Are you serious The whole time they thought you had to press A in 1/60th of a second When all you had to do was just hold it down? How did nobody else try that?

[@roideus]

I knew that since I was a kid wtf lol

[@nubfail]

Well, it's not like this is World of Warcraft with millions of people actively searching for new methods to speed up the game. There are only a small handful of people that actively look for new methods... like... 4 people.

[@hdckighfkvhvgmk]

And this is what we call a HALF A press

[@MackenziiRivers]

and how isnt this a glitch? surely it is?

[@valletas]

@@MackenziiRivers its more of a exploit them a glich

[@shadooper]

The fact any of these can be "glitchless" is hilarious considering how broken these games were.

[@rjante2236]

Yeah, like when Nidoking abuses the X Accuracy exploit.

[@TheCandoRailfan]

"Glitchless" means "glitchless". There is a separate glitch category.

[@caritahearts2405]

It’s not a glitch, it’s a feature

[@kasyu1101]

@@TheCandoRailfan not really. red bar and bike text skip are both glitches.

[@TheCandoRailfan]

@@kasyu1101 Bike text skip is a glitch, red bar isn't.

[@kymion]

I don't know how this guy does it but I am enthralled by every one of these videos, even though I haven't played any of them.

[@1UcMeOnce1]

The attention to detail and taking the time to explain the evolution of strats and routes on a level that both people that never played the games before or are pretty good at said game makes it very appealing :D Huge props to Salt

[@RockHarding]

I'm right there with ya.

[@hatuncanlioglu7754]

Ben eyyup

[@christhegamer926]

kymion j

[@blonded0532]

kymion same

[@mysteriousfun4759]

I love Summoning Salts compelling narratives, atmospheric snazzy related background music, and overall strong emphasis on showing and not just telling

[@SonneRevsson]

Which is why I'd like to see his take on Twitch Plays Pokemon :v but that has nothing to do with speed running so, tough chance

[@blueorb8994]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/d6uTgYahgLatps0

[@JustACoolGuy97]

Oh yeah, Salt kills it man!

[@MahDryBread]

But what fossil do they take?

[@Edgeperor]

I’ve never seen somebody who’s verified yet has so few likes

[@FirstW0rldGamer]

@@Edgeperor he has over 300k subscribers.

[@Hidden_Fern]

oh hi there

[@xoldmatex4437]

Its good for the youtube algorithm

[@first-acc-lol]

The root fossil

[@ariamentio]

“The chat had no idea what was going on” the chat: “I found cocaine in my dorm last year lol”

[@jasperhughes2399]

That’s nothing I found my parents bodies in my room last month

[@Tuberex]

Timestamp: 22:45

[@dah5839]

@@jasperhughes2399 Are you Yuno Gasai?

[@kie_ke_boe]

I should have hid it beter

[@paul_warner]

@@jasperhughes2399 dude I found my severed c*ck and b*lls in my lunchbox yesterday

[@ysquaredyobozo]

based on my knowledge of Gen1, glitchless isnt actually possible

[@joshuah.4496]

Seriously. Even the most basic things are broken. Critical hits and focus energy being completely broken, never thawing from being frozen unless your hit with a fire type move, the combined special stat making psychic types invincible and OP, stacking leech seed and toxic, the move counter, etc... Gen 1 is just an absolute broken mess

[@slakoththesuperstar2639]

@@joshuah.4496 *badge* 👏 *boost* 👏 *glitch*

[@its_saber1525]

@@joshuah.4496 getting a stat boost is causing a glitch because when one stat lowers or gets raised, every other does by one

[@MS-tf8vh]

Ya it really isnt possible lol the debate on 'glitches' here proves it. Gen 1 is broken & not just for the glitches, let us remember the infamous 'ghost is strong against psychic!!' and the only ghosts are weak to psychic w/double poison typing 🤦‍♂️

[@ghetis396]

The Nidorino that Prof. Oak shows you in the intro scene also has the cry of a Nidorina; it's literally impossible to play the game without encountering an error

[@ELStalky]

Kind of baffling that the ridiculously inaccurate in-game timer was not abandoned earlier.

[@freshlymemed5680]

Probably because people either didnt know if it was accurate or people were only usually able to prove their times with the timer.

[@midshipman8654]

Noah Also, while not as important for accurate record keeping, seeing that ending time is such a rush as compared to the external timer.

[@cutecommie]

Ingame timers are good enough, until all the records are ties.

[@androidamwoza206]

Speed Demos Archive rules are so dated. It was good at the time but the speedrunning community has evolved so much that no one takes that website seriously anymore.

[@ArlanKels]

Right now the RE:2 Remake speed runs run off of an in-game timer since depending on the hardware it's played on can result in drastically differnet times...I believe.

[@H1pstr0n]

i'm still trembling with the story of choco mountain on the mario kart 64 video, man that was amazing

[@brandonlewisgaming6982]

That was my favourite episode, holy shit man.

[@RenegadeShepTheSpacer]

Ha, I just came straight from that video to this one. Great stuff.

[@drewthatguy4933]

Same

[@poughkeepsieblue]

Yeah, now get back to running our MC server...

[@kaori-shiamiya8641]

Sans is scared of a mountain. Ironic.

[@EnterANameReal]

2:20 "because Pokemon Blue gives you a higher chance of getting sandshrew after Mount Moon" that makes it sound like Pokemon Red has sandshrew

[@Draggobuttboi]

I mean it's Technically true, 0% would be lower

[@ceruchi2084]

Sandshrew is my favorite Pokémon. I didn't realize he was not in Red. My sister and I got the games at the same time, and she got Red and I got Blue. My whole life would have been different if we reversed the colors. Thank you for this wild moment I'm having!

[@dexxxvssecretlaboratoryhea2182]

@@ceruchi2084 lul until I this point I was sure no one would ever say Sandshrew was their favorite. But ggs I guess :b

[@sephikong8323]

@@dexxxvssecretlaboratoryhea2182 Honestly, after seeing someone who's favourite is Garbodor and another one who's favourite is Diggersby, Sandshrew doesn't surprise me at all by comparison

[@shellshockedbros4458]

@@sephikong8323 Garboder isn't a bad Mon tho. He's pretty decent with attack and special attack. And sludge bomb is pretty good.

[@nitrodog96]

"ExtraTricky did his runs on Emulator, which I'm sure won't cause any controversy later or anything." Cracked up here. Controversy isn't a thing that exists, haha.

[@sciverzero8197]

I'm not terribly interested in speedruns, but I always feel a pang of rage when I hear that a small rule change destroyed the previous records. It seems like this should be a 'new category' thing rather than a 'nope all of this didn't happen, retconning it.' thing.

[@soulelevation9696]

Sciver Zero shit happens, too many categories split the player base too much.

[@spicywater8701]

Soul Elavation, you right

[@ColorlessAngelz]

@@soulelevation9696 Who gives a fuck if there are more speedrun categories. Clearly you've never worked towards a goal as insane as a world record, otherwise you'd be able to empathize with the original poster's point.

[@catdogfishdogcats]

You just have an addendum that they were previous records using the old rules. A record is just history once it's beat, so whether it was a record on an old rule list or the new one doesn't matter if there are multiple new runs that beat it on either rule set. Your Old run may be delegitimized under the old rules, but that doesn't mean you aren't part of the history if it was a legitimate run under the old rules, it just means you have to Stay as a historical run, or get gud and compete for a new world record under the new rules, or beat your old record.

[@EtienneLapha]

the former record isn't erased from history, this has never been a problem. Proof is the existence of this video and its view count.

[@smokesparkdragonfly1368]

I dont know how you popped up in my recommended, but im *so* *glad* *you* *did*

[@SilverWolf_-cj4qn]

Dude fucking same though. I have been binge watching these for hours.

[@Wockes]

Did for me now randomly. I barely even watch Pokemon

[@mjc0961]

Holy crap. I'd probably reset after 18 encounters. Coming back to get a record is amazing.

[@chrisbeach423]

14:50 jpaintrain looked exactly like a guy I went to school with, so I messaged him and found out it is him! Wtf "an old highschool friend has appeared" in one of summoning salts videos!??! Small world I guess.

[@Collin255]

Chris Beach thats pretty crazy

[@DecimusYna]

Thats actually very cool.

[@MrCubFan415]

Wow! That’s awesome!

[@chrisbeach423]

Mr. Cub Fan 415 aye ima die hard Cubs fan since 1998(: but yea he's a Kool dude from East Tennessee, we played ball together growing up, It made my day when I messaged him and he told me it was him. He was already aware of the video. Sadly he doesn't speedrun much anymore. It still blows my mind he had the WR and I didn't even know about it. I guess that's part in due to people drifting apart after high school.

[@DecimusYna]

Chris Beach :')

[@matthewstone2545]

10 Reasons why I won't speedrun Pokemon games: 1. RNG 2. RNG 3. RNG 4. RNG 5. RNG 6. RNG 7. RNG 8. RNG 9. RNG 10. 'Cause I suck

[@matthewstone2545]

@Chris Lowery Oh yeah, I forgot the honourable mentions... here's the five honourable mentions: 1. RNG 2. RNG 3. RNG 4. RNG 5. RNG

[@MTNDEWGANG]

Random shiny rng, and people freaking out over it and wasting time.

[@tr4shpanda]

makes sence

[@donaldpetersen2382]

With RNG manipulation you don't have to be good.

[@bruhman2277]

Fair

[@overlordalfredo]

21:38 It is so ironic that even is you totally destroyed the previous world record *the game still tells you "You still have lots to do,"*

[@kfd784]

For anyone curious, the current world record for this category as of today is 1:45:05 held by Hwangbro.

[@theazureeyedaassassin885]

Love you

[@hopper8514]

Why did I click that timestamp

[@56Tyskie]

Is this still current?

[@angrycat6954]

Current is now 1:44:03 done by Pokeguy

[@ChickenJoe-tq6xd]

Poke guy got a 1:44:03

[@daninbox]

Extratricky's 18 encounters was painful.

[@KingSoap-fy1oq]

Dan Inbox in heartgold in the ice path i sincerely believe theres is less encounter rates i swear i usually only hit like 2 or 3 swinub

[@munoobinater403]

Were there no repels in pokemon blue?

[@tolga8061]

​@@munoobinater403 There were, but not at that point of the game.

[@BizarreJelly]

Your content on youtube is like no other. It's produce so well. The narration, the research, time and energy. You deserve a lot more support on Patreon my man. I wish I wasn't so broke lol.

[@makyostars]

*produced And agreed

[@iquemedia]

TwitchPlaysPokemon is still my favorite pokemon speed runners

[@MishKoz]

It's already been almost 4 years, where has the time gone?

[@mahatmanana796]

Mish Koz 4 Years?!? Holy shit.

[@mildcard1036]

it's still a thing, there running another game on February 12th

[@Cyro23]

Mild Card the first time was the best

[@LinkEX]

I think "Weed Runners" is a more fitting term here, lol.

[@valseedian]

I watched this the day it came out and I'm back here again taking another drink from the well nearly 7 years later. the salt is the only thing that quenches the thirst. whenever I need a reminder that is never truly over... there are always new discoveries... there's always someone smart or talented or crazy enough to manage it... anything is possible with dedication or passion or luck, I come back to these vintage record progression documentaries. we all need to find our hope somewhere. this whole series is a microcosm of the human experience. thank you for remembering those who would otherwise be lost to time and forgotten. for reminding us we all stand on the shoulders of giants.

[@novasnotvibing]

I just spent 30 minutes of my life on this, and honestly no regrets brother.

[@Mtn_Dewpider]

These WR videos are so well put together and produced

[@IFCGaming]

and half an hour long too. one person probably spends a month editing that

[@tommykarrick9130]

God what a mess of a leaderboard, I feel bad for the people playing this category knowing some random change in the rules could tear down their achievements at any time at no fault of their own

[@randomnerd4600]

isnt that basically how real life works?

[@PangolinMontanari]

@@randomnerd4600 Real life isn't a competition, ideally

[@kevinmuller3425]

Changes like this most of the time are voted in the community which means probably most people wanted this change so the majority would rather be happy then anything else

[@thealkymyst]

@@PangolinMontanari Then you're playing it WRONG!

[@clausch.3517]

it's almost as if the leaderboards are as unstable as the game's code

[@NiceRoboT]

Me: why don’t I have a girlfriend Also me: *watches history documentary on Pokémon speed runs* Update: I forgot to update this - I have had a girlfriend for about 9 months now, and I think I’m going to ask her to marry me. And she watches these with me sometimes.

[@k42uy4]

damn, that solves everything

[@SS-uw8ii]

Me, this is me

[@RiseAbove-ru5wq]

Dude I'd love to have a boyfriend who does speedruns or is interested in speedrun videos

[@SS-uw8ii]

@@RiseAbove-ru5wq lol ig?

[@RiseAbove-ru5wq]

@@SS-uw8ii I'm serious. I'm having a hard time finding a boyfriend who's even in to gaming

[@dark_rit]

It's insane, but now the WR for red/blue stands at 1:44:03 held by Pokeguy84. 2nd place is 1:45:05 by hwangbro. Former record was obliterated by over a minute in one of the most optimized speedruns where basically no stone has been left unturned.

[@Lemon_Sage9999]

We need an epic 5 year follow up video forsure

[@PoliPantev]

Saying a run is very optimised and no stone has been left unturned is ignorant. There is always a way especially with a run that long.

[@dark_rit]

@@PoliPantev Have you looked at the WR run? Do you see where the timesave is concerning routing? Because every decision made in the run has been analyzed to death to the point that if you're aiming for WR your odds of completing a run are almost zero. The luck in the WR itself is incredible to the point that you could run the game for many, many years and not beat the WR time.

[@PoliPantev]

@@dark_rit its optimised for now. But finding new strats can lower it. And history has taught us, that more often than not a time can always be lowered.

[@gothia1715]

​@@PoliPantev A new strat can happen, true. However, its very unlikely given how deeply analyzed it is at this point. The new strat must also be something big to compete with this insane WR run from Pokeguy, which lowers the chance even further. People did say it before and were wrong. But i think Pokeguy finally killed Red/Blue for good with this run.

[@lazarlemajic4926]

"But that is a progression for another day" Still waiting for it.

[@TheRatsintheWalls]

And some say they're still waiting to this day.

[@dccxy]

5:25 "One hour and 57 seconds".. damn he done shattered that shit then, haha

[@mariostar13]

*minutes

[@Edgeperor]

6:05 Well, if people couldn’t outplay him just yet, maybe somebody could out-strategize him This, is ExtraTricky “Well yeah, I would think it would be pretty ha- oh. It’s... actually just ExtraTricky...”

[@thegrayyernaut]

Really bamboozled me who mostly listens to these videos instead of watching xD

[@stoic_rose]

i think that part is actually my favorite bit of editing in this video, i love the quadrants of extratricky's icon coming in, its so cool

[@TheCheat420]

"He did his run on emulators, I'm sure that won't cause any problems later on." I literally laughed out loud for almost a minute. I've watched enough of your videos to know it's going to cause a lot of problems.

[@Henrix1998]

Speedrunners are so paranoid

[@ENCHANTMEN_]

That "controversy" is dumb. I mean, an actual console can still be modified, and you could also just blur the video a little and say it's a console.

[@zackestin1368]

Consoles have background noise that can’t be spliced, emulators don’t. So for an rng heavy game like Pokémon it makes sense to make sure that spicing is impossible.

[@groszak1]

it's more to prevent TAS cheating

[@skelskeleton]

Also emulators may have _very_ slight mechanical differences that could give _slight_ advantages, even if it would be nigh impossible to spot. Forcing everyone to use the same thing in theory prevents that. If this problem actually exists or if the solution fixes anything is another topic that i myself am not familiar with.

[@EVPointMaster]

7 days ago Exarion did a 1:45:48

[@madvilliany1692]

He beat it with 1:43:52 a day or two ago I think.

[@Poketrainer317]

@@madvilliany1692 thanks for the update ahhhhhhhh cool

[@ctstacker1817]

the world record right now is 1:45:21 held by pokeguy

[@Jerryjones199]

I got a 142:21

[@ohyeahyeah7498]

jeff steele 142 hour run? pog

[@Nikadeemus88]

I randomly thought to myself how it's been awhile since a SS video was out. I check the channel, and boom, 13 minutes ago!

[@bbydinobeats]

lol i bet extratricky hears the encounter song in his sleep

[@braddahoz9551]

I've missed you summoning salt.

[@SummoningSalt]

I missed you too Austin.

[@ThePeacePlant]

Could you record a video of yall making out and ill send you each $300 over PayPal

[@suitNtie22]

I just discovered this channel and it has introduced me to the incredibly interesting world of speed running. Thank you for making such good content to show off this awesome community!

[@feanorn8409]

Damn i miss Werster speedrunning the old Pokemon games. It was like he came, he made strats and he owned all other runners. But yeah, Gunner, Pokeguy and Exarion made a everyday grind out of this, thats why i understand Wersters decision to quit. 2013 ! Still the greatest year of Red/Blue runs !

[@Flexy59]

i am not sure whether i understand that correctly: werster stopped, because the other 3 you named are grinding everyday to push the WR down further?

[@OldDistantHermit]

@@Flexy59 Pretty sure he meant that the grind at this point is so long and grueling that he understands werster's decision to say "I've reached the limit of what I want to do and I'd rather move to something else"

[@gairisiuil]

the siglemic of pokemon

[@alexgria]

We got a speedrun spectator veteran right here!

[@toe_sucker_4165]

The Matt Turk of Pokemon.

[@AnIllinoisan]

You are so knowledgeable about everything speedrun-related. It’s relaxing and a joy to watch your videos!

[@havoc2867]

Wish these came out more often but I understand they take awhile to make

[@victikirby15]

Ooh!!! I can’t tell you how much I’ve been waiting for this! Although there were a few mistakes, like “1 hour and 57 seconds” and how DV actually stands for Determinant Value, the entire video was really great, as usual. I just need a video on Megaman X, and I’m good

[@ButNotMyWife]

victikirby15 How have you watched the whole thing already?

[@EebstertheGreat]

It's Determin*ant* Value, but yeah.

[@QuantemDeconstructor]

My boy flexin', yeah we need Megaman X

[@TAKEYOURCREATINE]

Wil ly I watch most videos on 1.5x, maybe he does too

[@Navarchil]

Are DVs something like IVs in current pokemon gaming?

[@lupin9790]

Remember when that fish played pokemon on twitch? what if we got goldfishes and made them battle each other using the same set up and then we could bet which fish would win in a pokemon battle? Profit?

[@wis7604]

Silvanus911 I mean the fish never left pallet town

[@siddhayak]

Nicholas Ho But you can just start by putting them in the fight menu.

[@sadoldman1234]

Genius

[@paradoxzee6834]

Anyone remerber Imax? He and Gunner were saw as rivals they both speedrunned Pokemon Yellow and they both have around the same people watching them with Imax having like 10ish more people than Gunner. What I know he did change from Yellow to X and Y speedrunnig and that preatty much killed him

[@MysticalOriginz]

Profit? More like PETA

[@kaptainKrill]

So excited to hear that this is going to get a remake! That has always been my hope- as someone who loves the original games, I can’t wait to hear you bring your higher quality content to this topic.

[@MsCreepyChan]

Remember, kiddies, if you want to get a good speedrun, pray to RNGesus

[@Forty2de]

sounded more like RNGesus became their bitch by the end of it

[@samt3412]

Depends on the game. A Celeste run has no RNG, whereas RPG speedruns are built around it because of the very mechanics of most RPG fights are built off of RNG.

[@Geheimnis-c2e]

@@samt3412 True but not to the same extent as Pokemon games are. Atleast most FF games have constant stat growths, minus a few. (looking at you, FF2)

[@Rachelbee]

Anyone else get anxiety hearing the red health bar warning?

[@riahlexington]

Me

[@champagnenothapipapi8185]

I get anxiety and stress

[@dasutanehineri]

Not for me but hearing the random encounter music played over and over almost made me scream

[@thegeneral19]

I'm getting flashbacks...

[@biggiecheese4715]

More like nostalgia

[@Maplelust]

someone got 1:45:21 as of July 2019. Werster is now at 1:51:18 in 28th place.

[@meikahidenori]

The amount of research into these is incredible! Keep up the amazing work!

[@WilfredCthulu]

Nostalgic feelings aside the one thing I love about gen 1 that'll probably never leave for me or change in any way is the brokenness of them.

[@TayoEXE]

Wilfred Cthulu The glitches were half the fun.

[@MK-bn6un]

I agree, I love the glitches

[@iss2075]

When Gen I was actually out, most kids only knew about the MssingNo glitch. People would no doubt occasionally come across other glitches, but as a kid: 1) you wouldn't understand what happened (in some cases you might not even realise it was a glitch), 2) you wouldn't be able to replicate the glitch and 3) you wouldn't spread word about the glitch out further than your close friends because a lot of people didn't have Internet back then (and for the people who did, it was painfully slow). The best you could do is keep buying the gaming magazines in shops and hope one of the readers had discovered a glitch, written into the magazine writers about it, and the magazine decided to write about it. Basically, I'm trying to say, yes the games are full of glitches, but in practice as a child the experience was relatively glitchless. The games did, for the most part, play as intended. I know now that the games are quite ridiculous, but at the time it didn't seem like that. The thing that confused me most was that I understood the type chart even when I was very young, and seeing things like Razor Leaf be "Not very effective" on Gyarados, or Leech Life be "Super effective" on Zubat was confusing. But I could tell from the actual damage they did that the game was calculating the damage correctly, it was just the text that was wrong. And I got Pokemon Stadium a few years later and in that game they displayed the correct text. A gltich I did come across by accident was in Viridian Forest I died from poison the same time as the last Bug Catcher in Viridian Forest saw me. I fainted but the exclamation mark still appeared above his head. Then when I went back into Viridian Forest a wild Slowbro appeared immediately. I was like WTF at the time, and now i understand what happened, but at the time I had no idea what happened, why it happened, and how to do it again.

[@MK-bn6un]

I played on an emulator at 15 with some knowledge a well known bug, the Ditto glitch, though yes you are right, it was glitchless my first play through (forgot that last bit)

[@notesscrotes4360]

The vast majority of people don't play Pokemon because it's a balanced RPG. Smogon-heads who farm natures and perfect EVs for fun have a hard time understanding why people loved those old ones so much.

[@EpicUltraKingSmizzy]

i want to see a TASbot no major glitches run where they just manipulate every little piece of RNG to go their way. Constant critical hits, every item is a rare candy or better, every bad random encounter is skipped etc. I wonder how far the RNG manipulation can go with a TAS

[@guymcaulay8996]

There are no random item drops in Pokemon, no.

[@ShadowFox178]

Random is actually not very random in pretty much any application. Like, numbers in number generators have been shown to have bias as well and that numbers can get chosen inconsistently. RNG manip' abuses an underlying component of the game that's tracking your inputs which then effects how the game decides to use its RNG component.

[@ryjelsum]

There is not one for gen 1 but there is one for gens 2-4 on tasvideos, here is the gold/silver one which features a frankly astonishingly massive amount of RNG manip, from quick claw triggers to high power magnitudes to critical hits: tasvideos.org/564M.html

[@fab8920]

Then y don’t u do it before anyone else can?

[@worldweaver2691]

@@fab8920 probably no coding/no idea where to find a TAS expertise. or not strong enough hardware.

[@acgm046]

11:02 that amount of encounters put together in a row really REALLY disturbed the shit out of me...

[@jacksfacts20]

It seems like Pokémon speed runners have ice in their veins because their reactions to getting a WR is wayyy more chill than most of the other runners you’ve shown from other games.

[@ShadyOne426]

I agree! I think Pokémon speedrun are so brutal that they are just dead inside by that point 😂

[@ChairmanMeow1]

I dont even speed run and I still watch these videos fucking instantly. Love this series.

[@mordykinz4228]

Chairman Meow I love this series but I don't know why because his voice is so monotone

[@lolbrigader]

I don't even know why I'm watching it but I can't stop.

[@Essey001]

WR Progression for Majora's Mask: Ennopp Ennopp Ennopp Ennopp Ennopp Ennopp Ennopp Ennopp Ennopp Ennopp thesausage Ennopp Ennopp Ennopp

[@Kosmicd12]

Sanat Mishra Jiano, ingx24 :D

[@fredthechamp3475]

You forgot MajinPhil

[@HYLOBRO]

I love that exarion came out of nowhere and proved himself to be a total badass. That kind of out of the blue come in and show who’s boss is absolutely fascinating.

[@Dragonatrix]

And then it gets disqualified because he had the audacity to not be a popular famous member of the in-crowd already

[@HYLOBRO]

@@Dragonatrix damn your comment reminded me to do my yearly rewatch of this amazing video

[@Sc9cvsd]

@@Dragonatrix yeah i get the skepticism but he was found guilty without proof

[@fengshuimma9160]

I enjoyed this much more than I expected to since it was kind of random in my list. Well done sir, great content!

[@xerowon3490]

FINALLY! been waiting forever for this one!

[@xerowon3490]

twinkie231 very much agreed. I've been following him for months now and he's never once disappointed

[@nibs991]

Its because he's a speedrunner (For punch out) himself so i feel i can trust him more

[@CrystalHakurei]

It's 11:25 pm WR progression video uploaded Guess who is staying up an extra 30 minutes

[@kinanschannel6016]

TheGameBoyUltimate it 9:30 pm here

[@soulslayer434]

Yah it's 12:40am I have to go to work in 6 hours. I guess I can just stay up though ;p

[@zeabeth]

Speedrun watch the video at at least 2x speed

[@danielrein5503]

1:27 for me now ◡̈ but totally worth it

[@katawatenshu]

don't tell your mom!

[@gilgameshur-nammu366]

You are extremely talented in creating content such as this. The editing skills and music plus commentary are extremely well done, almost professional-level. I was so anxious for new content but I understand that perfection can't be rushed. Thank you for being true to your channel's pursuit of quality.

[@omni_vocal9877]

Just found this channel late last night - been hooked on your content - THANK YOU

[@natahndolar2142]

*Steps forward* *RANDOM ENCOUNTER*

[@nubfail]

Simply changes direction without even stepping onto a new tile. RANDOM ENCOUNTER

[@c-1939]

Russian Bot I have had that happen idk how

[@justinmullins346]

Man, I am really digging your channel. I've never followed speed running very closely, but you really make it very exciting. Good Job!!!

[@DiegoPalestro]

*AN A PRESS IS AN A PRESS, YOU CAN'T SAY IT'S ONLY A HALF*

[@mariostar13]

+pannekoek2012

[@Asdayasman]

Actually, an A press has three stages.

[@QuinGracia]

Diego Palestro **0** -(Ima firin ma lazor) *0======================:)):

[@freikinpoptarts]

ok Diego "Henry" Palestro

[@mariostar13]

@MrNudood ...framerules.

[@ShawnTheMidget]

Holy, found your channel from a reddit comment. Decided to click this video cause I like pokemon. Just checked to see what the current record is. SOME GUY LITERALLY JUST BROKE THE 2 YEAR RECORD YESTERDAY! The internet is a crazy place.

[@leo17921]

i dont have any pokémon game, know basically nothing about the game, and i still watched this video without getting bored at any moment. gg

[@noahfinkel3059]

Me too

[@carterferris07]

You should play Pokémon just for the experience. If you ever consider, I recommend Emerald for Game boy Advance, and Pokémon Platinum on Ds

[@randomnerd4600]

@@carterferris07 i agree. emerald was my 1st pokemon game and it was simply cool.

[@Maxsterious1]

hai

[@qatqatter8753]

Wonderfully edited and researched, and super entertaining! Can't wait for the next one! :D

[@imaginaryboy2000]

It's amazing how, after all these years, we STILL don't know just how broken this game is

[@pumpkingreg6673]

hot take: werster is a top 10 speed runner of any game of all time for being revolutionary

[@TylerKehne]

He's Person B

[@pogotick]

Dude...incredible work put into this video. I wish i could give you a thousand thumbs up, but i can only leave a like and a massive thank you. Good job keep it up 👌

[@thelegitnintendogamer1832]

So ur telling me no one ever tried just holding down the a button during the first text screen? Seriously? If I knew about the RNG manipulation I would of at least tried that strategy really early on.

[@Tenaciousturtl]

The Legit Nintendo Gamer They weren’t allowed to reset the game for many years so manips were never figured out until recently

[@nicolasfrechette6285]

at 2:20, blue version doesn't increase your chance of getting a sandshrew. Sandshrew is not available in red version without mew glitch or trading.

[@RiverShock]

A 25% chance is an increase over a 0% chance. ;p

[@justarandommimikyu8474]

Elvarg RS has a point.

[@Stretchable0]

i dont understand why sandshrew is necessary when there's plenty of others who can learn cut

[@RiverShock]

In Red/Blue, there really aren't that many early-game Pokemon that learn Cut. And, crucially, the only other one you don't have to go out of your way for you could get by the time you need it is Paras, which has a very low encounter rate. (15% in the deepest part of Mt. Moon, less elsewhere.) Yeah, you could get an Oddish/Bellsprout on Route 24, but it's further out of your way than Sandshrew and is also a 25% encounter like the quicker-to-access Sandshrew. I guess you could just reset your run if you don't catch a Paras in Mt. Moon, but I'd hazard a guess that that would get very tedious very quickly.

[@Stretchable0]

hmm i guess that kinda makes sense. but considering everyone seems to do red, i can't see it being a better alternative! I'd be willing to hazard a guess that the top runs more than likely have paras caught?

[@tripple-a6031]

20:45 The moment Exarion claimed what rightfully was his, beautiful.

[@catster9489]

These are so nice.You can easily see that summoning salt always puts a lot of work into these

[@saraha180]

It's weird that anybody thought that the instant text glitch wasn't a glitch. If you want to be reductive, all that happens in _any_ glitch is that the game sets some memory locations in a way that wasn't intended.

[@shockthetoast]

Technically, the game set the memory location exactly as intended. It just failed to set it back. :)

[@onijester56]

The problem is that the "instant text" phenomenon sets the memory location to the exact spot it is intended to set it to. Yes, it's not a normal part of operation...but it is a thing the game explicitly intends for. The player just never triggers it to be reset to how it normally is. Let's put it like this: if the "Instant Text" phenomenon is a glitch then so is the "RNG manipulation" phenomenon because both are the game doing what it is supposed to be doing, placing memory where it should be placed according to how the game is designed and created.

[@Lolp821]

The only time it wasn't a glitch was the time it was accidentally discovered

[@jancojicanoder]

@@onijester56 indeed, in the same way, if "instant text" is a glitch, red bar is a glitch too, because it's the game that override the sound effects

[@jamesdinius7769]

Then what about red bar? Same deal, one thing in a game overrides normal function. Or are you suggesting that they intended to suspend animations at low hp? Seems unlikely.

[@an_annoying_cat]

All the runners seem so chill about getting the world record.

[@itsamemario6588]

I love you for making these. This is a whole world of intrigue and competition and glory that I'd never have learned anything about if not for your efforts. Peace, man.

[@brandonxmoody]

Hold up, that's the SNES Top Gear racing game theme at 11:45!

[@andrewmarchitto8461]

I can tell a lot of work went into making this video. great job man. one of the best KZbin channels out there.

[@MattGarZero]

Summoning Salt posted a video. Its super effective!

[@neilisbored2177]

Summoning salt used smelling salts. A MOVE EVERYONE FORGOT ABOUT.

[@troystuart2373]

I must say... I've watched this video many times. Your progression videos are one of a kind

[@Zivko_]

I'll go ahead and accept this as a late Christmas gift from you, SS. I love these videos sm, and am fascinated by speedrun tactics!

[@beaglefet9906]

I love the use of the top gear track for the background music for a player's comeback.

[@Ztepagman]

He protec He attac But most importantly He bacc

[@benyverezub5217]

he protec He attac But most importantly Ded meme

[@CalSticks]

He protec? He attac. Most importantly? He bac. Ded meme? Trivago.

[@UncannyGirl]

It's been about 4 years since this video came out: * Minutes have been shaved off * GBA Emulators are now allowed * Early Game RNG extended Manips are the norm forr most Pokemon titles (Platinum is the most ridiculous as it exploits the PokeRus mechanic introduced in Gold/Silver)

[@nodatesape9124]

On the one hand, I respect and appreciate the rng manipulation of pokemon games, and it certainly helps mitigate the rng to some degree... But on the other hand, I loved the rng aspect of pokemon runs... and watching werster die to red. Ah the memories. Just doesn't feel the same without the rng tbh. Totally irrational, I know, but I am who I am.

[@gottalight3574]

I was literally going to sleep, screw that!

[@Apanblod]

Elliot "Going to sleep" is not a figure of speech, so it doesn't make sense to use "literally" like that.

[@danielkingery2418]

11:46 A song I haven't heard in 25 years. Instantly took me back to a better place and time.

[@RichardxNB]

What's the name of that song?

[@danielkingery2418]

@@RichardxNB kzbin.info/www/bejne/rqG4i4yNjZd1pbssi=Yojr6yRtUn3t7bPW

[@Idealismsu]

yeah you know what? i aint sleeping tonight

[@darianb9616]

Definitely not

[@MrCovi2955]

I've never been interested in pokemon speed runs. But you have the most engaging story telling voice, and frame your stories so well that after I turned this on to be mindless background noise at work, 20 minutes later I realized I had gotten no work done while watching the video. I had to pause it if I was going to get any work done today. You could narrate paint drying and I'd probably be hooked. Congratulations, I'm a new subscriber and now have a new channel to watch during my lunch breaks

[@songoku9348]

I'm glad I found this channel on my recommendations, you just gained another sub. Love your content.

[@Spartan_Mello]

Coming back to watch this is wonderful. Really hope to see a Pokemon Emerald deep dive from SummoningSalt.

[@edwardnygma8533]

Video: *Is about Pokémon* Video: *Has Pokémon in the script plenty of times.* Salt: *Calls the last runner "pokeguy"*

[@doctorzeek2370]

cause that was his gamer tag? or am i missing something lol

[@edwardnygma8533]

@@doctorzeek2370 It should be "Pokéguy", like "po-kay-guy", because it's "po-kay-mon", but he pronounces it "poke-guy", like a midwestern mother saying "poke-man". That clear it up?

[@doctorzeek2370]

@@edwardnygma8533 ah. I just Presumed that was the pronunciation, ive never heard of him, so i cant be sure,lol. thanks yo. i take it you follow pokeguy and he says its pronounced like poke in pokemon? again, i wouldnt know, dont hate lol

[@edwardnygma8533]

@@doctorzeek2370 No I've never heard of the guy, but iirc it was displayed with an é so the logic would follow as before.

[@leagueofminecraft6964]

Edward Nygma his name isn’t displayed with an é. It’s just pokeguy

[@lapidations]

I love SummoningSalt videos. He works way harder then he should to make this videos awesome. You can feel the love pouring out of the screen.

[@bismuthcrystal9658]

Well, this shocked me. I always used to do the bicycle text speed glitch myself as a kid. Shared it with friends. Got some major playground cred for it. If only I'd known I could be helping impressively obsessive people on the internet by sharing it.

[@BrianAnim]

I have to admit, I was hoping to see the glitch runs where you can walk through walls and rewrite memory. This should be renamed Pokemon Red/Blue glitchless.

[@Mernom]

Glitched isn't eligable for WR, and this is WR list.

[@dogg-paws]

Mario allows glitches, so let Pokémon do the same.

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

That is up to the community of runners. If they allow, they do, if not, not.

[@CommandoCommal]

I beat pokemon red............. And it only took 2years

[@takeotora]

Welcome to the Salty Spitoon boii

[@APatel8]

ME AF

[@farfromirrational948]

2 years and a missingno glitch and a boatload of rare candies for me

[@userwithoutausername2021]

I beat Pokemon White..... With 32 play hours....

[@GameyRaccoon]

What a loser

[@DARTHJASPER1]

although this video is 2 years old by time of me watching, you are such a great story teller man!! totally hooked to your content