The LOST CONTINENT of MU

[@lindenstromberg6859]

The influence of Mu may be greater than just humanity. I heard some bovines talking about Mu.

[@andersand6576]

I am cow hear me mu. I weight twice as much as you. And I look good on a barbecue. (:

[@andrewblackard3369]

That must the the source of the legends that Wisconsin is the legendary Land of Moo.

[@lucasroche8639]

😂

[@bodnica]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@oldguy6976]

😂😂

[@rossamullen5918]

It’s good to know that making stuff up existed before the internet.

[@wheeze_sanchez]

How fantastic it must be to think no one made anything up until the end of the last century

[@BrettWMcCoy]

You mean like how Plato mentioned Atlantis in "Timaeus" and "Critias" nearly 2400 years ago?

[@rossamullen5918]

​@@BrettWMcCoy I should have added passing it of as historical fact.

[@DataBeingCollected]

@@BrettWMcCoy Next you’re going to tell me that the sinking of Numenor is also a made up story.

[@BrettWMcCoy]

@@DataBeingCollected And the Doom of Valyria?

[@J_LorraineK]

It seems to me that Churchward should have just written a novel and presented his fiction honestly. 😮

[@armok409]

That's what frustrates me about pseudohistorians, they could have used their creativity towards a perfectly benign and entertaining end, probably contribute to humanity's cultural achievements in a meaningful way too, but no, they decide that they want to confuse the masses and make actual historian's lives more difficult... It always is nice to see it when pseudohistorical nonsense like Atlantis (or Mu) is treated as the pure fiction it ought to have been treated as from the start, taken down a peg if you will, doubly so when we have a legend like Dr. Miano debunk those who promote such things as supposed fact.

[@julietfischer5056]

A lot of these folks believed they'd made great discoveries. When Churchward and Donnelly wrote, archaeology was still about collecting things for museums or private display. Glorified treasure hunting, even as many of the looters/collectors tried to understand these ancient and contemporary cultures.

[@julietfischer5056]

@@armok409- To be fair, archaeology and anthropology were still developing as sciences. The shadows of white superiority and the Bible-as-sober-history were cast over darn near everything. Those peoples who hadn't needed to invent wheels, guns, and cities were considered 'stuck in the Stone Age' and inherently primitive and simple-minded. That world wanted an explanation for the great cities (ruined or not) in lands inhabited by dark-skinned people. And there were these stories of ancient civilizations, and misunderstandings of myths and legends, and Plato's Atlantis. And there were these ruins and other structures on islands in the Pacific, and in the Americas, and in Africa to explain. And the comforting idea was an ancient Aryan civilization that taught the brown world how to do more than eat, sleep, and screw. And there were plenty of enthusiastic True Believers who might (not) be educated in what little was known about ancient languages and cultures. People who thought all writing systems were alphabets and 'translated' ancient texts and carvings in weird ways. Or who couldn't shake their cultural ideas enough to try to see things differently from usual. Plus, yes, any number of fakers and con artists.

[@Cat_Woods]

@@armok409 "It always is nice to see it when pseudohistorical nonsense like Atlantis (or Mu) is treated as the pure fiction it ought to have been treated as from the start" Yes! Same with religious mythology. Always refreshing when religious mythology is treated as mythology rather than history.

[@Monte-o2f]

Brother I drink too much, smoke too much ,and rearly shut the f up, 57 years, tired old stubborn roofer, I hear all see all from the Roof . But you hold my attention, I follow . You are of the Kind. I love Love Love you so much. Capt'n...

[@Jebediah1999]

@@Monte-o2f I'm the same but a.bit closer to the ground. Its the knees. Wish I had a.new pair of knees and a new back.

[@stevenleonard7219]

When I was a child I found the idea of lost continents and/or cultures and civilizations intriguing. As an adolescent and subsequently a young adult the idea of the possibility that cyclical rises and falls of civilization answered a lot of questions I had. Luckily when I enrolled in university 50 years ago I took my first course in anthropology. My professor was a vociferous antidiffusionist. The myths of ancient civilizations were exactly that, myths. Von Däniken and other proponents of ancient aliens were no more than fanciful fiction. Diverse historical ancient cultures arrived at similar solutions because generally they were humans coming up with human solutions. They did not need to learn from “advanced” beings but could rather using ingenuity invent what they needed. While Heyerdahl may have proven Egyptians could have sailed papyrus boats to the Americas there has been no evidence of such.

[@spiritualanarchist8162]

Same here (more or less) When I was a kid, Von Daniken's books seemed a good (and exiting ) explanation why & how so many different ancient cultures looked alike. I went to University to study history, and that was that. Over the decades I've seen the same pseudo- nonsense pop up every few decades . The internet is re-cycling all the long disproven nonsense again. Sadly social media reaches tens of millions .

[@ericcollins-mf8vb]

@@spiritualanarchist8162 Von Danikens first book Chariots of the Gods was a good read at the time with 'proof' based on interpretations of artworks still in existence. The conjectural interpretations are exposed as fraudulent with the publishing of follow up editions based on erroneous claims, provable today as quoted evidence of 'perfect' masonry blocks when checked with a carpenters square are definitely not as expertly carved with lasers as Erik Von D. would have his followers believe, I think his following editions were easy money from the converted to whom it makes so much sense.

[@Rynewulf]

@@spiritualanarchist8162 Von Daniken wasnt even original, he's cribbed virtually everything from New Age writers or the 1800s Spiritualism that they copied

[@KasumiRINA]

​@@spiritualanarchist8162 but they don't look alike? Actually what fascinates me is how DIFFERENT all these ancient cultures and nations are. Even close ones: see Egypt to Nubia to Levant... Mayans had writing and Aztecs, which lived nearby, didn't. Peru civilizations had amazing stone structures but not pyramidal like the Mesoamerican ones, and those step pyramids were completely different from Egyptian ones, used as platforms instead of tomb covers. So instead of xapatones they had a flat ground with walkways to them.

[@julietfischer5056]

@@Rynewulf- The New Age post-dates his rubbish. But there were plenty of books and such about Atlantis and expies of Atlantis for him to draw on. His main contribution was to claim that brown people needed extraterrestrials to teach them things.

[@collyernicholasjohn]

Thanks Doc, you’re an inspiration! Rational,reasonable, critical and love your storytelling.

[@BaronVonQuiply]

We're Muvin' on up!

[@timfogelson7076]

But is he going to the east side and a deluxe apartment in the sky.

[@Fauntleroy.]

​@@timfogelson7076No, you had to go to Lemuria for that sort of thing.

[@AnnieRegret]

❤

[@petrapetrakoliou8979]

Plate tectonics were quasi unknown in Churchward's time and were considered as a dissident geological theory, so he probably wouldn't have known about it. Nice presentation of Oceanic versus Continental crust.

[@juanausensi499]

Yes, to be fair, the first zoologists had the problem of similar animals and plants being on opposite sides of the oceans and needed some kind of explanation. Before the idea that continents could move, the most spread hypothesis is that those animals and plants crossed land bridges/continents/island chains that are sunken today.

[@julietfischer5056]

@@juanausensi499- Those sunken lands were invoked to explain lemurs on widely-separated islands, and given the name Lemuria. Yes, Lemuria originated as a scientific theory. Then it was linked with Mu and we all know what happened.

[@brizo68yeah74]

All i knew about MuMu was that its ancients were justified and that they drove an ice cream van. Thanks for the education.

[@lakrids-pibe]

Mu Mu Land ♫ ♬ Mu Mu Land ♩ ♫ All bound for Mu Mu Land ♪ ♬

[@agilekind]

The KLF (well, one half, Bill Drummond) took Mu Mu from ‘The Illuminatus Trilogy’, which is yet another source of conspiracy theories and false history! In the book they’re called: ‘The Justified Ancients of Mummu’ and are a “secret society based on a primeval Babylonian deity, Mummu.”

[@Armyjay]

and they burned a million quid.

[@Crabby303]

🤣🤣🤣

[@garymaidman625]

Did they die by Snu Snu?

[@InfiniteUniverse88]

An earlier writer, Rudolf Steiner mentions Lemuria. Some writers use the terms Mu and Lemuria interchangeably. Even earlier, Blavatsky mentions Mu. She founded the theosophical society, which may have influenced Churchward.

[@tonyhoede6251]

stories like this frustrate me so deeply. There’s real creativity here! If these were presented as fantasy they’d be wonderful.

[@MossyMozart]

@@tonyhoede6251 - The same can be said of Graham Hancock. He could have been another Prachette!

[@tracimcmurray5244]

Thank you, Dr. Miano. Mu, Lemuria, Tartartia, etc--they are are all glorious tales and wow, IF they were true, how fantastic a history that would be! Alas, no concrete evidence has been found. But as you stated, most people will not take the time (and it takes a LOT of time) just to disprove something or validate it. I appreciate you taking the time to break this one down in fairness.

[@garymaidman625]

Lemuria initially was not a continent where civilization started, that was only later. The origins of Lemuria based on the evidence that Lemur fossils have been found in Madagascar (where they are still found) and the Indian subcontinent, but not anywhere in Africa or Arabia, so the biologist at the time, Philip Sclater, in the mid 19th century, proposed that to account for this anomaly, there had to have been a land mass between Madagascar and the Indian subcontinent that had since sunken, a land mass called Lemuria, literally the land of lemurs. This, at the time, was a pretty logical theory and not pseudoscience at all. Since the rise of the scientific discipline of tectonics, this theory has since been disproven, the explanation is now that Madagascar and the Indian subcontinent were once joined together. Just because Sclater's theory has since been disproven, doesn't make it pseudoscience, in fact his initial theory has been bastardized by these pseudohistorians.

[@andrewblackard3369]

I can't quote a source for you right now, but I read once that some Spaniard erroneously attempted to translate Mayan glyphs to Spanish words based on sound-alike comparisons or something similarly bogus. Then several other Europeans compounded the error by attempting to translate Mayan codices and inscriptions into Spanish using this bogus language cross-reference. The writer concluded that this was the source of the claimed Mayan accounts of Mu.

[@J_Z913]

Dr. Miano masterclass! ❤

[@algi1]

Interesting how in kaiju and other Japanese sci-fi movies Mu is very prominent. I guess, their pop culture latched on to Mu in a similar way Western pop culture latched on to Atlantis.

[@howbootu]

I guess mu is easy to say in Japanese. And Atlantis not so much. It would be like a-tu-ra-n-ti-su. Whereas mu would just be mu.

[@NovaSaber]

I think English-speaking writers just don't like the name "Mu". Even when they put a lost continent where Mu supposedly was, they often call it something else (sometimes Lemuria, even though that's supposed to be the Indian Ocean's lost continent); and at least one Japanese-to-English dub ("Mysterious Cities of Gold") changed Mu to a different name.

[@garymaidman625]

​@@NovaSaberinterestingly, Mu is a letter in the Greek alphabet.

[@juanausensi499]

Being in the Pacific, it makes more geographical sense.

[@bipolarminddroppings]

​​@@juanausensi499the Australian aboriginal people probably have a similar myth with the continent/island located near them. Humans are humans, we tell similar stories because we have similar experiences. The European/Mediterranean Atlantis myth might be based upon a kind of cultural memory of Doggerland or some other landmass that was swallowed up by the seas long ago.

[@rubenducheny2788]

Excellent as always! Thank you!

[@geolauf]

Thank you for your fantastic work Dr. Miano.

[@NonyaBiz-t5f]

I can't tell you how excited I get when I'm sitting here on a whatever day and I see a new WOA video pop up. Bonus points for weekend releases like today. It doesn't matter what I was watching before or what I was planning on watching, I know what I will be watching as soon as I see that notification appear! Thank you as always doctor miano!

[@Imperiused]

Churchward was just straight-up writing orientalist fanfiction

[@missourimongoose8858]

@@Imperiused I bet his great grand child is writing for rings of power now lol

[@thepurplephoenix6423]

Came here to say this lol

[@stuartnicklin650]

This is the best video i have seen on KZbin in months. I have barely heard of any of this.

[@benbarrus6309]

I just got my in flight entertainment. Looking forward to this. Thx Doc.

[@alanmarshall4989]

your work is much appreciated doc.

[@thecreweofthefancy]

Are you doing the Tartarian junk next? It is one conspiracy that makes me angry because it denies things which are still in living memory.

[@blaizecunningham6080]

Is that the one where all of our buildings and societies are built upon the remnants of older buildings and societies that were buried in a "mud flood"(or words to that effect?) very recently?. I seem to remember a "theory" much like that, that was termed "Tartaria" or something like that. The theory basically postulates that in the last century or so and giant flood of mud flowed across the world and buried all of our societies in 20ft of mud, and rather than clear it away and document the event, the rulers of the day decided to just rebuild on top of older partially buried buildings, path over all the mud, and then censor all of the evidence and for some reason forget all about it. Some funny stuff right there. I think we can all agree on that.

[@thecreweofthefancy]

@blaizecunningham6080 yes and star forts and basement windows get thrown into the mix.

[@thecreweofthefancy]

@@blaizecunningham6080 oh and the Worlds Fairs were not actually Worlds Fairs, but the remains of this civilization.....

[@Flagdad]

my guess is that's what the Mongols called themselves or it was a actual nation the Mongols actually conquered that was undocumented

[@thecreweofthefancy]

@Flagdad oh good, you don't know this conspiracy theory yet. Don't Google it, stick to what you just said.

[@PrimordialOracleOfManyWorlds]

fun fact - the toho sci-fi movie, Atragon, was based on the reappearance of the lost continent of Mu and their fight for world domination.

[@premodernist_history]

18:15 Maya names are so gnarly.

[@HepCatJack]

The Texas Long Horns sometimes spoke of the ancient continent of Moo.

[@PRH123]

It was a wonderful place, full of long green grass, fresh clover, no fences, and the hamburger, bottled milk and cheese had not yet been invented. Sigh.

[@GizzyDillespee]

I got Churchward's Sacred Symbols of Mu from the dump (Amherst MA) in their "take it or leave it" library. Someone had donated a small vintage esoteric book collection. I read the book, and the "evidence", IOW the translations and connections implied, seemed specious. When the book was published, I wouldn't have been able to know that. But this was the early 2000s, and I knew the Llhasa and Mayan ideas were off. There were some interesting illustrations, but the conclusions seemed unlikely. I ended up giving the book to a friend of mine, and don't miss it. It would like nice on a boolshelf behind me in the webcam. If you want a more interesting exotic orientalist travelogue of ancient wisdom teachings, I'd recommend Magic and Mystery In Tibet, instead.

[@GizzyDillespee]

I think Sacred Symbols had a lot of speculation about Rapa Nui. If memory serves, it looked for commonalities in various civilizations.

[@GarGhuul]

So Laplange is the sole origin for the idea of a “Lost Continent of Mu?” The idea ha s made great legs in all sorts of fiction, even video games.

[@darkushippotoxotai9536]

Funfact for gamers out there : The secret cow level in Diablo games is allegedly set in the continent of Mu.

[@sharktomesmiles]

I love this channel.

[@MrFreezook]

❤👏👏👏 Awesome as usual, Thank you Dr. Miano.

[@1Kent]

Keep up the good work Dr M, the truth is out there.

[@jackcotner8981]

Excellent, interesting presentation.

[@jjw56]

Ten thumps up! Again, good work doc.

[@TheCosmicGuy0111]

Oh man here we goooo

[@gabriellavedier9650]

I was actually familiar with the concept of Mu very early. The video game "Illusion of Gaia" and the semi-sequel "Terranigma" both used Mu as optional mystery continents for the game, as they roughly took place on sort-of Earth. Also my high school library had books about Mu.

[@TheZestyTea]

Great video!

[@alaing246]

Merci!

[@WorldofAntiquity]

And thank you!

[@Taomantom]

At 36.5ish your voice tone and choice of words made me laugh like hell. Nice sarcasm Dr. M!

[@103cubobo]

Just once I'd like to hear about a lost continent whose people where just, like, fine. Not particularly advanced or anything.

[@PlatinumAltaria]

Does Doggerland count?

[@Libbyyyyyyyyyy]

@@PlatinumAltaria It only counts if its inhabitants taught everyone how to build a pyramid

[@cyan1616]

The real secret is that these "advanced" civilizations weren't all that advanced, they probably just had a better way to make pottery or ax heads, maybe they were tinkering around with making really efficient plows. These were once big technology, and they were all just regular civilizations like everyone else.

[@lakrids-pibe]

Heinrich Schliemann called his son Agamemnon ? lol

[@JuanitaGrande]

THANK YOUUUUUUUUU!

[@pcatful]

“Known to belong to the ancient sacred mysteries”. How can a mystery be known? (It’s a secret apparently. One carefully guarded by the guys in the Masonic Hall down the street. And… we’re NOT going to tell you.)

[@espacoipiranga]

i think "mysteries" in a religious context is a "secret revealed to the initiate", something like that.

[@chrisball3778]

Twist: Heinrich Schliemann actually did find the ruins of Atlantis, but accidentally destroyed them by digging through them in search of the 'Platonic phase'. That's why his fake grandson couldn't show anyone where it was.

[@Zarkov777]

Thank you for your sanity!

[@tonisee2]

Truelly a great one! It is actually amazing (and very much depressing), how much of such "ancient knowledge" is still circling around, nowadays in social media in broadest means. Thank you a lot of taking one of those "founding texts" into pieces.

[@brunopereira6789]

Churchward just needed to have written a fantasy novel and he would've been much happier for it

[@BenWard29]

Your reading of Le Plongeon sounds so much like the spoken part of the Donovan song "Atlantis". Great song. I hope Donovan doesn't actually believe in Atlantis.

[@billmorse5724]

I was just considering using Mu as a part of an upcoming fantasy story. Good timing.

[@chuckkv]

They're justified and they're ancient. And they like to roam the land. They don't want to upset the apple cart They don't want to cause any harm But if you don't like what they're going to do You'd better not stop them 'cos they're coming through

[@pawekranzberg6259]

@@chuckkv A man of culture, at last.

[@gurnolla]

Consider if you would the volume of ocean water Wu would have displaced. Other continents would have suddenly had vast new coastal area exposed.

[@clwho4652]

That was my first thought when I saw the map, something that big would displace so much water that large portions of the real continents would have been under water, even some of the places psudo-history people claim is evidence for their fiction ancient civilizations. Then there would have the tsunami caused by the sinking of mu, there would defiantly know if there was a tsunami that big.

[@KasumiRINA]

32:50 We have lion statues guarding Vorontsov palace in Odesa, except they're like 150 years old so not unique to antiquity.

[@paisleybabee]

Fascinating! 🖖 Thank you! In the early 2000s I came upon a copy of one of Churchwood's books and was kind of taken in a little until I read the Ramayana. In my travels I came across others who would refer to this stuff in whispered tones. Psychedelics were often involved 😂That he and his mentor never bothered to actually consult the texts they were supposed to be quoting says a lot! Look at where we are today right? Ha!

[@Baka_Komuso]

Eureka! Oh epiphany! Thank you so much for completing my understanding of human history; now I understand where Hancock is “coming from.” The Atlantean civilization was preceded by Mu which was the origin of all human knowledge and culture. Happy Day! Now we know how we got here.

[@tonysargent1699]

Did he sell lots of books? People in the 1930's were still strong believers in the supernatural and also of adventure, so Churchwood was writing for people like himself, which would have payed dividends for both his ego and his pocket! Cool stuff, Doc. Cheers.

[@DataBeingCollected]

I wonder how much of all of these myths, Atlantis, Mu, Flood Myths, etc can be explained by oral traditions in relation to The Early Holocene Sea Level Rise (EHSLR), specifically the Meltwater Pulse events. While most of the research has been on Meltwater Pulse 1B, the final Meltwater Pulse somewhere between 8000-6000 BCE seems to me the most likely event that would have completely inundated the last parts of Doggerland, Malaysian Sundaland, Australian Sahul-land, The Pacific Northwest to include whatever was left of Beringia (bridge was gone by then), and the Persian gulf region. While I am agnostic about the Black Sea Deluge hypothesis, that would also fit into the timeline. I am not an expert in this, just something I’ve looked into!

[@AveragePicker]

Not sure which MWP you are referring to......Do you know the number? There is a 2B but that is the study of a current ice shelf. But either way, MWP events, you'd be looking at a rise of meters over the period of hundreds of years. They are not flash flood events.

[@DataBeingCollected]

@@AveragePicker Like I said, not an expert. I do not know a specific event here, but a 8,000 - 6000 BC event would be a post 1B event. I think 1B is the only one with any really solid data. MWP 1B would have been about 11,500 years ago. Also called the catastrophic rise event 2 (CRE2). The way I understand it, meltwater pulse events are attributed to the collapse of continental ice sheets, like giant ice dams holding back a ton of water. For Doggerland specifically, you have the Storegga Slides around 6200 BC (these specific slides are not necessarily meltwater pulse related slides) , which triggered very large tsunamis in the North Atlantic Ocean, which ultimately sank Doggerland. With meltwater pulse ice sheet collapse, you would have an initial massive wave due to the slide itself, followed by the release of the actual meltwater trapped behind the collapsing ice dam creating the permanent sea level change. For reference, a landslide in a narrow Alaskan bay in 1958 created a 1,700 foot/ 518 meter wave which is the largest tsunami we have recorded, and it had no associated meltwater pulse. Just a rockslide with no change in sea level. These waves can also travel up to 500 mph / 800 kmh and cross whole oceans pretty rapidly. While a rise of few meters might not seem like it is a lot, if you have a pulse event, you have the initial tsunami, which then recedes, leaving a sudden and permanent rise in sea level once concluded. You could describe it as a gradual rise looking backwards, because that is ultimately what it looks like after the catastrophic event. In addition to that, you also have to consider how a slow gradual rise of sea water, even without a tsunami can impact entire floodplains once it reaches a tipping point. This is a major concern with sea level rise in our modern day, such as the Netherlands. Once the sea level reaches a critical rise, many basin type geographic features will be rapidly inundated without needing any aid from a massive continental ice sheet slide.

[@AveragePicker]

@DataBeingCollected Theres not an initial tsunami....its a rapid rise but rapid here is relative and takes place over 100s of years. There's no overnight event or week or whatever. That's just not how they work nor is it possible.

[@DataBeingCollected]

@@AveragePicker The Storegga Slides were concerning enough for the development of the Ormen Lange gas field off the coast of Norway in 2004 that they took a good long look into it to make sure they wouldn’t cause a repeat. It was determined that there was a glacial component to the slides, which led to their conclusion that they were safe to proceed barring a new ice age. You don’t have to agree with it, but it is a still a topic that is being actively debated in academia, and I am just a guy who’s interested in it and wanting to bring the idea into to the conversation here. I am ultimately agnostic to it, (meaning I won’t lose sleep over it if it’s completely debunked) but I do think there is some promising research here that shouldn’t be ignored just because it doesn’t seem to fit our previous models or understanding. Bad speculation and bad theory should be debated to show why they are bad, and I’d rather know that my previous model was bad and change to the more accurate model then stubbornly argue for a flat earth, or whatever. If you actually work in a field related to this research and know why what I am sharing is actually wrong, please provide it so we all can better understand. While a lot is made about combating pseudoscience on this channel (something everyone is guilty of to varying degrees), I am not making an emphatic claim here, just bringing light to the general public a position and opening it up for public debate. I think the way you’ve approached this, (expert opinion or not), requires that we also discuss the lesser known topic of Pseudoskepticism. Marcello Truzzi attributed the following characteristics to Pseudoskeptics: Denying, when only doubt has been established Double standards in the application of criticism The tendency to discredit rather than investigate Presenting insufficient evidence or proof (when making a claim) Assuming criticism requires no burden of proof (IE, criticism of an idea, any idea, is somehow excused from burden of proof) Making unsubstantiated counter-claims Counter-claims based on plausibility rather than empirical evidence (IE, claiming something is not plausible or possible without explaining why) Suggesting that unconvincing evidence provides grounds for completely dismissing a claim Carl Sagan is famous for the quote “Extraordinary claims require Extraordinary evidence.”, also called the Sagan Standard. Where did he get this? From Marcello Truzzi. If you are skeptical, please provide me some real skepticism!

[@AveragePicker]

@@DataBeingCollected All I am pointing out is that meltwater events are not, nor are they led by, or followed by, a large scale disaster taking place over a matter of days. Hancock tends to promote that they do because he needs a single fast event for his ideas to work. But that just is not how meltwater events occur.

[@OldieBugger]

Oh, I like stories with MU in them. Just as I like other Fantasy and Science Fiction stories.

[@skeptigal4626]

Dr. Miano, not only do I love your great content, I greatly appreciate that you are not AI 😊

[@Catdad76801]

Sagan's Demon Haunted World is a must-read for pseudoscience avoidance.

[@fordprefect80]

I've read it twice, great book.

[@Couchflyer-NY]

Oh man, it’s fantastical. Just substitute Mu with Smurf and all the pieces fall into place.

[@CoolClearWaterNM]

I always liked the Mu silliness more than Atlantis. Probably just because ridiculous Atlantis stories have been done to death so when a fantasy writer uses Mu is seems more 'original'. It's a bit like the over-saturation of zombie novels. Write a chupacabra story and I'm more likely to read it.

[@michaelmanning5379]

Fish, barrel, 12 gauge.

[@toastrave7820]

i remember first hearing about the land of Mu from a Toho(the studio that made most of the Godzilla films) film called Atragon.

[@varyolla435]

🎯 It happens to represent a case where _"correlation equals causation"_ ends up being accurate after all - though I must add this is often not the case. Early print science fiction genre is used by Hollywood as the basis for their own version of that entertainment genre for movies/television -------> this results in a large customer base forming which becomes inculcated with these narratives -----> what will become the LAHT industry seeing that large, exploitable customer base crafts its' own narratives which basically rip off Hollywood et al's.........who ripped off the early print science fiction writers.........who created their narratives based upon the cultural excitement of the day. Moral: the development of the _"world of MU"_ goes back to the 19th Century when pseudoscience was all the rage + when ancient Egypt and _"Oriental esotericism"_ were equally soup du jour in certain circles. Man creates his fantasies which are both based upon popular themes in the culture of the day as well as help to shape the same.

[@Incorruptus1]

Thank you Dr. Ever since I new about Zealandia, I have been spreading the information, but all I get is that I am a nut lol. And than I catch myself thinking, some scientists soon will elaborate more about this fact. And I even have a nice book from New Zealandia specially bought as a back bone to my truth raid. Sir, thank you so much for mentioning it in your video as well. There is so much to zoom in on, later tech that handed us better insights. But now for the making facts generally known thing. You are doing an awesome job, thank you Sir.

[@ThatBoomerDude56]

I always thought *"Mu"* was equated to and an abbreviation of *Lemuria.* Somewhat intriguing when I heard about it 50 years ago but I always thought it was mostly nonsense. Largely because of the tectonic plate thing. And also the Maya & Inca & etc. timeline is just wildly off from the supposed Atlantis/Lemuria/Mu timeline.

[@matthewludivico1714]

Historical study of pseudoscience is intriguing.

[@lococomrade3488]

Watching Alchemy turn into Chemistry is the coolest deep dive.

[@matthewludivico1714]

I understand it really begins with divergence of philosophisical thinking, starting with Francis Bacon, inspiring later generations to build chemical laboratories and work using mathematical and empirical methods, independent of alchemical systems. So really once you accept a better ideal system as empiricism and natural philosophy (the idea that nature holds observable and reproducible laws), we can reject the input of alchemical restraint. And produce pure science. I would say history says Francis Bacon of the father of the philosophical thought thay paved the way for practical scientific exploration in laboratories by those he inspired...Robert Boyle, etc... By the time of Lavosier, alchemy is viewed as garbage by the scientists.

[@matthewludivico1714]

See Francis Bacon

[@lococomrade3488]

@matthewludivico1714 The Disappearing Spoon is an awesome book, for anyone who hasn't read it. Also, archaic and insane medical practice is always hilarious.

[@matthewludivico1714]

if only TikTok existed hundreds of years ago

[@JayCWhiteCloud]

Oh, boy...Time for a coffee break!

[@wetcanoedogs]

no joke,i took a little time off and made it two programs.his booklet why history matters is a good read and much like this.

[@danielmartin8847]

Amazing work I do belive that you have searched all that information correctly to define that the original information from the book is not correct ins many ways , so thank you for you hard work

[@welcometonebalia]

Thank you.

[@aramisone7198]

Great channel.

[@WorldofAntiquity]

Thank you!

[@gil-sc3qe]

bravo! thank you very much. 👏🙂👍

[@mccallosone4903]

i used to be fully on board with ancient lost advanced civilization theories like atlantis, but then i hit middle school and started reading more serious history books. i had to stop engaging with bonkers ancient aliens fans on facebook posts, they have no capacity for analytical thinking, and debating them is a complete waste of time. keep up the good work debunking the nonsense bud!

[@williamallen2777]

Atlantis is on the map of Mu 2:16 on the Atlantic side so he really likes adding continents. I wonder how many more he thinks there are?

[@davepx1]

I'm impressed that they manage to squeeze some bits of ocean in between. :)

[@sybo10]

Excellent!

[@welhungyongmancitywok8189]

as a Dutch person i can tell you the lost continent of Mu is not lost just very tired.

[@andreweaston1779]

I have a question for you if you dont mind. There is a channel named 'History for Granite' and I was wondering if you could check them out. I was watching their last video, and, they referenced UnchartedX. Only because they pulled an image from them, but, the fact that they were mentioned is worrying to me. The channel is sort of speculative. But, I personally do not think it ks baseless speculation. However, I can see that it might be simply because I am not super well versed in the material. The channel videos regularly hit over 1 million views so it is not small time. I appreciate your time, and the work you do. Love your channel.

[@AveragePicker]

History for Granite is legit. Some of their recent videos have been speculating on some things, but it is based on actual research and grounded logic. (EX: They lay out a pretty good argument for the order the casing stones were placed in and extensively mapped them looking for patterns in size that might be clues.) They may not be totally correct but it is all quite reasonable and they lay out their thinking very clearly. They do a really good job at showing slight variations in historical documentation too. Highly recommend their channel.

[@pyramidreview8664]

I always enjoy it when Schliemann pops up when you least expect him.

[@salinagrrrl69]

Dear Dr. Miano, praises 2U for moving along & forward undaunted by the barbs of your academic arch advisary the DIABOLICAL DrDeBunk.

[@davepx1]

That guy's just not well. Best ignored.

[@sifridbassoon]

oh wow! I remember that series of books back in the 60s

[@yaldabaoth2]

Back when you could just make s**t up and call yourself an expert. It's almost like pseudoscience youtubers today.

[@nycbearff]

I think it would have been great fun back then, if you were healthy and rich. Otherwise - give me the modern world, with all its problems.

[@jamescobban857]

When Jules Verne wrote The Mysterious Island the core of the plot was The Swiss Family Robinson but he wanted to set the story at the exact opposite side of the World from Paris. But Swiss Family Robinson was set in the Malay archipelago, so Verne had to exploit a reference to Mu to explain how continental animals are found on his imaginary remote Pacific island.

[@Libbyyyyyyyyyy]

When I hear about the lost continent of Mu, I think of the book Legend of Bagger Vance, the part he stops time in the middle of the golf match against Bobby Jones and Walter Hagen, and let's Ranulf Junah and Hardy see the Ancient battle of the armies of Mu clashing as civilization and the very earth crumble beneath them. Possibly one of the most epic crescendos of a book I've ever read surprisingly, as Junah finds his inner swing to get back into the match!

[@petrapetrakoliou8979]

The historical theories of Churchward were hilarious in his time. On the other hand he couldn't have known about how continents work as nobody did at that time.

[@Tim_J_]

Churchward is like the L Ron Hubbard of "History"

[@olorin4317]

Just stumbled on a channel called Kasaysayan Hunters. It’s small but I’ve never seen Philippine pseudo archeology before so I thought I’d share.

[@cozmothemagician7243]

Oh, I can play this game too.. Steve Wozniak's twin brother's son showed me a secret document written by the 1st AI in 1784. It details George Washington's journey to Venus in a balloon. It was written in Incan Fortran that only a select elite can read. How did I do?

[@gil-sc3qe]

😂👍👏

[@waynemyers2469]

Garbage: (1) How does someone "show someone a secret document."? (2) The "elite" are NOT "selected", they are born and (3) Balloons are notorious for losing their structural-integrity when faced with the extremes of outer-space. Both heat and cold, when coupled to the Vacuum, tend to viciously attack the material and structure of even the most robust balloon resulting in complete implosion and ultimate destruction. Under such unrealistic conditions, the idea of Washington making a Venus circuit in a decade is doubtful and lacks material evidence. *not as easy a game as you thought, is it? But that's probably because you are not a liar by nature...

[@Fr.O.G.]

I always liked that band, the Justified Ancients of Mu Mu (yes, this is where they got the name, though they got it by way of The Illuminatis Trilogy).

[@davepx1]

The Androids of Mu were there first! Bored Housewives is still a classic.

[@njalsand133]

The game terranigma was the first time I've ever about Mu decades ago.

[@DanielMWJ]

26:16 It was a direct quote, just as he translated it. Obviously, "Atlantis" translates directly into "the land of Mu". Obviously.

[@miaththered]

sits down to learn a thing.

[@scoon2117]

I'll learn it and immediately forget it.

[@barbarossarotbart]

The reason why all theories about lost continents are doomed to fail? Plate tectonics!

[@ardechirpakfar6823]

Thank you, very deep analysis!

[@JMM33RanMA]

Le Plaongeon was the same kind of imaginative fantasist or grifter as Sitchin, who pretended to translate Sumerian before real scientists had done so. The so called translations of the Egyptian book of the dead by Joseph Smith are the same. That the hieroglyphs have been reliably translated has had little impact on the true believers who prefer opinion and belief to science. This is, unfortunately, also true of the followers of other pseudo-archaeologists and fantasists. EDIT: After commenting I remembered some reading from decades ago. Casey and Blavatsky claimed to have communicated with the dead. Their proof was what they had dreamed, or interpretations thereof. This brand of fantasist bunkum is not new, but the end of the 19th and early 20th Centuries seem to have been a hotbed of such tripe.

[@salinagrrrl69]

I saw book covers in the early 1970s about MU at book stores. I wondered then this, "NatGeo is full of wonderful reality so why invent an OZ into reality?".

[@davepx1]

Indeed. History and archaeology are full of wonders: that some prefer fabricated nonsense is just sad.

[@Mulavi]

Did Queen Mu know of Princess Bubblegum of the Land of Ooo? Surely, the similarities between the names Mu and Ooo strongly suggest an historical connection that even Graham Hancock could agree with.

[@karlkarlos3545]

I learned a useful term today: 'Gish Gallop'. Thanks, Dr. Miano. I noticed that it is used by a lot of conspiracy theorists and also by a certain presidential candidate, since real-time fact-checking is always impossible.

[@louisquatorze9280]

Moo? Isn't that where Alley Oop was from? Always look forward to the opening drums.

[@Taistelukalkkuna]

*Checks Maya glyphs* "Please note that toilets are for customers only."

[@Rednecknerd_rob9634]

Dr. Miano: Will it standup to scrutiny? Or will it sink into the ocean, like a lost continent? Me: Dad jokes galore.

[@williamcashell6357]

Mu, I like the receptor.