021 - Swedes not Sweden to Finland's Rescue - WW2 - January 19 1940

[@WorldWarTwo]

Hej vänner! Just like the Finns are getting help from the Swedes this week, we could need some help of our own. As Indy mentions at the end of this episode, we are almost entirely financed by our viewers and fans on Patreon. Do you want to do your part? Make your way to ttps://www.patreon.com/TimeGhostHistory or timeghost.tv to help us make this documentary. Do you want to contribute in other ways? Check out our Forum at community.timeghost.tv. We have several community-driven research projects running (such as the PictureHunt and Out of the Foxholes), and more are coming soon! The very well colorised thumbnail depicts First Sergeant John Horseholm and Åke Ek of the Swedish Volunteer Battalion in 1944. Find out their story here (CONTAINS SPOILERS): www.flickr.com/photos/jenoscolor/28483225283/. Colorised by Jared Enos www.flickr.com/people/jenoscolor/. Last but not least, please check out our Instagram page (@World_War_Two_Realtime) for realtime day to day news from 1940. The posts are parallel to the show. We try to cover topics that get overshadowed by the larger events or cover some details of those more in-depth. You can find that here: instagram.com/world_war_two_realtime/ Cheers, Joram *PLEASE READ BEFORE YOU COMMENT:* *RULES OF CONDUCT* STAY CIVIL AND POLITE we will delete any comments with personal insults, or attacks. AVOID PARTISAN POLITICS AS FAR AS YOU CAN we reserve the right to cut off vitriolic debates. HATE SPEECH IN ANY DIRECTION will lead to a ban. RACISM, XENOPHOBIA, OR SLAMMING OF MINORITIES will lead to an immediate ban. PARTISAN REVISIONISM, ESPECIALLY HOLOCAUST AND HOLODOMOR DENIAL will lead to an immediate ban. Thanks for reading. Now go comment!

[@luxembourgishempire2826]

Hope this has Luxembourg in it

[@luxembourgishempire2826]

NO! I just saw you put at 1:40 that the Dutch and Belgium's began to mobilize. So did Luxembourg! Secretly it's planning on invading Germany and the whole world until we all start speaking Luxembourgish and wave a luxembourgish flag. 🇱🇺🇱🇺🇱🇺 #MENTIONLUXEMBOURG

[@Worldtimes1]

I would love to help with patreon, but i dont have a lot of money at the moment. However I will share and click on the ads!

[@maxvanlint6261]

How come there are comments from two days ago? Greetings from Belgium! Keep up the good work, I looooooove it!

[@luxembourgishempire2826]

@@maxvanlint6261 If you support them on patreon you get early access to patreon. I will but I want them to #MENTIONLUXEMBOURG first

[@ScooterWeibels]

The map animation is absolutely fantatstic

[@ricklolkema3340]

I second that, they keep making the show better.

[@daniturrocap791]

If you like it you should check out eastory, he is the guy that makes them

[@WorldWarTwo]

Check out Eastorys own channel here: kzbin.info/door/ElybFZ60Hk1NSjgCf7I2sg

[@notroll1279]

The animation is very good indeed - but unfortunately, the underlying maps show the post-war borders between Finland and the Soviet Union. Whereas the actual Finnish-Soviet border went straight through Lake Ladoga, the "dotted line" shown at 0:49 sneaks inland along its Western shore - clearly the later border. Since there is no doubt that this attack was an unprovoked landgrab, I think the pre-war borders should be shown because at the time of the Campaign, those were the legal boundaries.

[@d1agram4]

No Troll thanks for the gold bars but they aren’t in a box..

[@mrgadget1485]

As a Finn, I honor those brave Swedish, Estonian and other volunteers who came to help us, even though their governments wouldn't. That's true bravery as it's finest!

[@ThellmanIsANoob]

that guy on the left with the eye patch in the thumnail was my great great uncle.

[@xGoldColossus]

@@ThellmanIsANoob thats bad ass. thanks for commenting

[@ThellmanIsANoob]

@@xGoldColossus ikr, i even have him as my school account pfp lmao

[@hannayoung9657]

Up north in Sweden, a lot of people with goods by mistake skied over to Finland... woops... and some medicine also by mistake ended up in Finland. I been told by relatives that people suddenly had problem knowing where Swedish/ Finnish border where at that the time..

[@joonaskosonen95]

yeah i heard that same thing and i dont mind it. What was small mistake was that the ammunation sweden sented, was wrong caliber ones. But alot medicent and importan gear came from sweden.

[@lavrentivs9891]

Most people along the swedish-finnish border (which is mostly divided by rivers) have family on both sides, so it was only natural for them to help each other. It also had the effect that towns like Pajala was bombed by the Soviet Union, officially by mistake.

[@apotato6278]

Yeah a lot of people helped out. My great-grandfather amongst many other people from northern sweden suddenly got so confused they found themselves fighting the soviets as part of the volunteer force.

[@johan.ohgren]

@@lavrentivs9891 Pajala was bombed? Why have I never heard of that?

[@lavrentivs9891]

@@johan.ohgren It's fairly common knowledge in the north of Sweden. If I was malicious I would say that the south doesn't care about the north =P sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombningen_av_Pajala_1940

[@Elohim83]

Swedish volunteers were brave and fought valiantly for Finland and I am forever humbled by their courage to fight for us. Sweden accepting to take our children during wartime makes me cry everytime I think about it. Thank you Sweden.

[@ThellmanIsANoob]

That guy on the left with the eye patch in the thumnail was my great great uncle.

[@MordecaiTheAwesomeBluejay]

Come on KZbin give this channel some love and monetize their videos! The world needs people like Indy to educate us about the history of WW2! Keep up the good work sir! I'll see you next time!

[@ibnyahud]

it's frankly reprehensible and anti-academic youtube needs to stop the book burning

[@skepticalbadger]

@@ibnyahud Hardly comparable to banning and burning books now is it?

[@travislandsman]

@@skepticalbadger thats exactly what it is

[@danielw.8356]

Their videos aren't monetized?! WHAT? WHY? What is even wrong with them?

[@MrPobanz]

@@danielw.8356 I guess because they avoid cencorship, which youtube certainly dislikes.

[@tuomopoika]

Heja svenska folket! Had to check that with Google translate. Seven years of compulsory Swedish courses well spent.

[@spartacus-olsson]

Hei Suomalaiset! Five years relationship with a Finnish/Swedish girl in my youth only helped me get the accent worked out (well... she spoke Sörmländska, but her folks... deep Finnish Swedish)... still, hardly a word of Finnish for me, so Google Translate it was here too.

[@tuomopoika]

Yeah Spartacus, relationship is the best way to learn a foreign language :D

[@spartacus-olsson]

Everything OK there@@nielrelatado3076? Helene or Walburga giving you heartaches?

[@samuelsomfan]

@@jole0000 trist attityd

[@tylsimys67]

@@samuelsomfan Precis. And while it's still common in this our historical rivalry in SPORTS - not much else - to mockingly use the term "faggots" I believe most of us Finns acknowledge the ever-growing importance of Nordic unity against global threats. (To be more exact, those two real ones.) As for WW2, huge respects to Swedes for giving our children shelter in thousands, including my mother and aunt - ludicrously seldom mentioned fact.

[@steficristian6003]

"Finland is the real aggressor! ...'cause that makes sense..." Lmao

[@RicardoGarcia-of2mf]

That makes no sense 2 me, Russa is a Bully, an still is!

[@peka2478]

​@@RicardoGarcia-of2mf well, the story worked with Poland and Germany, so why not try it?

[@knockhello2604]

@@RicardoGarcia-of2mf no shit

[@swevixeh]

@@RicardoGarcia-of2mf No one beats the United States in that department.

[@Jebu911]

Yeah the average soviet person was shaking in his boots just thinking about the mighty finnish army annexing the soviet union on their bicycles.

[@oscarmartensson413]

My grandfather was one of the volonteers. He lied about his age to join the army and traveled from Skåne far south all the way up to Finland. He never talked about what happened up there much.

[@ThellmanIsANoob]

my great great uncle was also a volonteer. He is acually the guy with the eye patch in the thumbnail.

[@chianghighshrek]

​@@ThellmanIsANoobproof

[@ThellmanIsANoob]

@@chianghighshrek his name was John horseholm, horseholm is the last name of my moms side of the family. And my grandpa used to talk to John when he was alive. Search John horseholm on google and he will show up

[@Pataassa]

As a Finn, I would like to say thank you for your grandfather. That story is very familiar. Most of the Finnish veterans did not want or were able to talk about what they experienced either. At that time, complaining was not part of the culture. So they kept quiet even though they had seen terrible things that surely came to dreams. Many of the Finnish veterans drowned their thoughts in alcohol after the war, to forget. The entire Finnish nation suffered from post-traumatic stress and it left its mark on the entire nation for several generations. So we're kind of still suffering the consequences of the war at some level. And I'm sad that Ukrainians has that same trip ahead. Hopefully they can speak it more free so it wouldn't influence so many generation. But it probably will.

[@IsoEsa66]

Hello from Finland and keep up the great work. Indy's pronunciation of our language seems to be getting a lot better as the months advance.

[@deadmeatdec2164]

Often wondered if he spends hours reciting words he will have to say. Also, Babbel? Rosetta?

[@carpetclimber4027]

He lives in Sweden, so that helps.

[@lesliefranklin1870]

@@carpetclimber4027 : Swedish and Finnish are two different animals. Swedish is Germanic and Finnish isn't even Indo-European. Although Finnish is very phonetic.

[@indianajones4321]

Foreign volunteers in the Winter War, Yes! As many people already know, Christopher Lee was a volunteer Keep it up ww2 team!

[@Chactemal]

@Prussian Eagle he was also a special agent and part of a heavy metal band

[@neildahlgaard-sigsworth3819]

Indiana Jones he was there for about a fortnight before teturning to the UK, eventually he volunteered for the RAF after a period in the Home Guard.

[@Duke_of_Lorraine]

Saruman was merciful not to send the entire Isengard uruk-hai army.

[@indianajones4321]

Prussian Eagle Yes, in the Finnish military in 1939, then in the British military from 1940-1946 serving in North Africa and Italy

[@indianajones4321]

Águila701 Never said I was the real Indiana Jones

[@SvarteJack]

The last of the swedish volunteers, Bengt Essén, passed away just recently at the age of 100. A moment of silence for him in the comments below.

[@indy_go_blue6048]

[sounds of silence]

[@masterblast7171]

2 min silence

[@Briselance]

Indeed.

[@discosecret6363]

[Respect]

[@Alex-yz6uq]

Not true, He's not the last.

[@panzerraven4135]

Thank you so much Indy and team. I hereby would like to nominate Indy as the best dressed KZbinr of 2019

[@MrRenegadeshinobi]

Panzer Raven you mean best dressed KZbinr in history.

[@panzerraven4135]

@@MrRenegadeshinobi Haha I bet he would win! Indy and his team educated me about ww1. And yes I do have a minor in history. I chose science after that. But never lost interest.

[@swedish_vikings]

my fathers grandfather Hjalmar (1900 - 1985) fought as a volunteer in the winterwar, he survived the war and lived a long and happy life, unfortunately not all were as lucky as him. RIP all who died.

[@ThellmanIsANoob]

That guy on the left with the eye patch in the thumnail was my great great uncle but luckily he survived the war and some year after it he survived being crushed by a wall. Absolute chad

[@JenniferinIllinois]

There is no way Belgian neutrality will be violated again, right?

[@JenniferinIllinois]

@Prussian Eagle :)

[@karstreitsma7316]

And the Netherlands will bypass this war, just like they did with the Great war.

[@MrRenegadeshinobi]

HAHAHAHA

[@dekaredfire]

RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT!!!!!!!!

[@dpeasehead]

Hold on, still waiting for my super computer to digest the data and spit out a response.

[@turmunhkganba1705]

Go Finland you’re are our guy You won’t win but you’ll sure try

[@majormononoke8958]

Finnland will conquer UdSSR and than Europe and than the hole world.

[@hasantrab]

Major Mononoke then they will go to mars and conquer it too!

[@julioleonardus7958]

[Open Console Commands] annex [SVT]

[@JII-JII]

Hasan traboulsi Sauna on the sands of Cydonia will be the first building to grace the martian soil!

[@skykid]

in a way they kind of win...they prevent the soviets from taking any more than they originally set out to do, maintained autonomy. Ofc part of that is thanks to the Reich, but still. They prevented Finland from becoming Soviet real estate

[@lameless3254]

Nice video. My great grandfather was a Swedish volunteer which fought in Finland.

[@jakemichael473]

You're the best! Love waking up every saturday morning for a cup of coffee and watching. The detail and work you put into this is amazing keep it up.

[@WorldWarTwo]

Jake Michael, Thank you very much! We appreciate the support!

[@konstantinn.9846]

Hey, I'm from Viipuri (Vyborg)! There are still huge stones left from the Mannerheim Line. Fascinating stuff.

[@AarenJable]

Another fantastic episode, it's just a shame that this will all have blown over by Christmas and you'll have to start covering another war.

[@benjaminvincze4249]

I think the germans would postpone the western invasion so they can help out the finns fast, and take the major Russian cities in the spring. There is no way there would be some stupid treaty or pact against it.

[@luxembourgishempire2826]

@@benjaminvincze4249 it's a shame though they still haven't #MENTIONLUXEMBOURG!

[@AarenJable]

@Re A Tell anyone and I'll' make sure you were never born.

[@WorldWarTwo]

Re A, People who support us on Patreon (www.patreon.com/TimeGhostHistory) or our website (timeghost.tv/) get to see a preview of our video's on three days in advance (Thursdays for WW2). That episode is then made public on the Saturday thereafter. In the meantime, our supporters are already able to comment and ask questions.

[@AarenJable]

@@WorldWarTwo Yeah, just go ahead and steal my thunder with your "honesty"

[@jacky9590]

About the Hungarian support of Finnland: Count Pál Teleki’s government sent armaments and war equipment valued at 1 million Hungarian pengős by British and Italian ships during the Winter War (with knowledge and accord of Regent Miklós Horthy de Nagybánya). It contained 36 anti-aircraft guns with 10,250 cartridges, 16 mortars with 32,240 shells, 300 rifles with 520,000 cartridges, 30 armor-piercing rifles with 3,300 cartridges (taken from the Polish army), 300,000 hand grenades, 3,654 landmines, 93,680 helmets, 223 military transceivers, and 26,000 bandoleers. During the Winter War, around 25,000 Hungarian men applied to fight in Finland.

[@cwovictor3281]

Those are very specific numbers, what's your source on that? Sounds like good reading

[@ville307]

Hungarians didn't fight though. Finland could have doubled their army size with volunteers but almost none of them had any training or even idea of what war was like. Finland had no way of arming, supplying or even feeding and housing them when they arrived. Many Finnish officers didn't like them as they were overly enthusiastic to fight for a cause with no understanding of warfare. If they had been sent out they would have frozen to death with no food or equipment.

[@jacky9590]

@@ville307 yes they did not fight because they arrived too late,but they were trained for winter combat and the usage of skis...but some of themn stayed and fought in the continuation war

[@jacky9590]

@@cwovictor3281 a historian buddy of mine. he does research on Hungarian war time equipment in the War-history museum in Budapest. That is how he got the numbers

[@jacky9590]

@@cwovictor3281 Here is a dual language book about the volunteers tho, in Finnish and English index.hu/documents/kulfold/hungarianvolunteersbook.pdf

[@griffincheng]

I dunno propaganda could have been so helpful. Toilet breaks! Genius!

[@Yeeren]

Propaganda leaflets are also invaluable if you've been in the field without toilet paper for a while ;)

[@griffincheng]

Yeeren leaflets are usually thick and tough. No good for this application. Since it was Soviet-made, it might be just right. Just make sure the ink was completely dried before using.

[@cwovictor3281]

To quote Blackadder: "Ah yes, without question my favorite magazine. Soft, strong and thoroughly absorbent"

[@bobbyhood101]

Eat a hot meal take a dump and resupply your cartridge belt , thanks for the break!

[@nymalous3428]

I initially thought they were looking forward to them for their comedic value.

[@bf15thairborn]

My great grandmother was a lotta during the winter war. Her husband served through the winter war into the Lapland war. She was pregnant at the time with my grandmother during the winter war. Oddly, my grandmother says she has this memory of her mother diving into a snowbank during a Soviet bombing of Helsinki, of course this was before she was born. I really enjoyed William Trotter's account of the winter war. It's hard not to respect the Finnish spirit to fight. Where I live stateside, there are many Finns, and I grew up hearing my grandmother speak Finnish with her friends. I love to rewatch the episodes covering Finland. Thanks for all the work!

[@johanneswestman935]

My grandfather was a volunteer in the winter war/continuation war. He was injured by an artillery shell in 1944 and had to walk around with just one functioning lung for the rest of his life - but plot twist - at the hospital he met my grandmother who was his nurse.

[@WorldWarTwo]

Great story! Thanks for sharing!

[@johanneswestman935]

@@WorldWarTwo I'm glad to share it. I really regret not asking grandpa more about the war - but I was too young at the time to ever really wonder about it. Grandma said he never talked about it but that he would often toss and turn in his sleep and have nightmares waking up screaming that the Russians are coming "Ryssen kommer!" or "vart är mitt gevär!?" - where is my rifle. Anyway, I always thought that it was a great silver lining in an otherwise very dark time of history that he found the love of his life after sustaining a life-long debilitating combat wound.

[@alixus10]

Oh yeah baby! He met a beautiful nurse. Lol. I'm sure he forgot all about his lung as soon as he saw her.

[@auguststorm2037]

Actually Finland was the only country at war with all sides during WWII: -Soviets during Winter war and Continuation War. -Allies during 1941-1944 ( Great Britain declared war at Finland after the beginning of Continuation War -Germany during Lappland war 1944

[@auguststorm2037]

Maybe. They were at war with Soviets, don't they ?

[@vertie2090]

lol why everybody wanted to go to war against Finland :D what did they ever do to piss everyone off like that

[@firstlast4379]

Lapland war is debatable. Finland was basically forced into it by it's lovely eastern neighbour.

[@TheNismo777]

@@vertie2090 We been too annoying for a long time :D World basicly hates fins.

[@vertie2090]

@@TheNismo777 Come at us bro we got hot sauna and cold beer ready for you :D After that we can settle our differences by wrestling in snow like real men do.

[@oneofmanyjames-es1643]

It would be great to have a special episode some time on what was actually going on in the "Phony War" and the reasons behind it.

[@WorldWarTwo]

We do sort of cover it here in this episode and others - it's all the planning and machination going on and nothing actionable to do for the Allied soldiers on the ground in France. Meanwhile the Wehrmacht is gradually moving their forces from Poland to the Western borders. We covered the actual effect on the troops and what they are doing in Episode 10 here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fZ2rmHqwZseJsKs

[@aidenhall8593]

Reading about world war 2 in history books and seeing it in summary is like a shot to the arm, a quick painless injection of sterile knowledge from which you gain no pang of the horrible, scraping, massive drawn out event that it truly was. Learning about it like this gives you every detail, every moment in a chain of seemingly unending catastrophes. To think that people actually lived through this blow by blow, over 6 agonizing years, without any knowledge of what was going to happen next is truly sobering. Thanks Indy and team for this wonderful show you've got here, it really opened my eyes to this reality, and hope it did the same for a lot of others.

[@WorldWarTwo]

Thank you for this wonderful compliment - it is our ultimate goal to make history come to life little more and if this is what we achieve, we are closer to that than we would dare to hope.

[@sakke7346]

My grandpas dad was a swedish volunteers in the winter war. He even got shot in the left which made him deaf in the ear. My grandpa got some news paper that his dad had while he was in Finland and my grandpa got the medals that his dad got.

[@sjinnie_boy4988]

Is that a painting of Conrad von Hötzendorf in the top left corner? Legend

[@WorldWarTwo]

;-)

[@joffreybaratheon9044]

@@WorldWarTwo are we gonna have a winter offensive on the Carpathian mountains

[@Valdagast]

The Soviets also bombed the workers' quarter in Helsinki. Didn't endear themselves to the Finnish workers.

[@LR-tr5cn]

My grandfathers father and mom both fell in the winter war.. They died for Finlands independency. Rest in peace ❤ / And huge respect and appreciation for volunteered Swedes. We'll always have the neighbours back 🙌

[@1224negar]

i love this series so much.

[@mattx229]

Beautiful closing Indy. 👍

[@danielbat9887]

"What counts is not necessarily the size of the dog in the fight - it's the size of the fight in the dog." - Dwight D. Eisenhower

[@vksasdgaming9472]

"But if that dog can't bite deep enough its fight is worth jack shit. " - unhinged, dog-fighting gangster

[@Flow86767]

I am so happy that you’re making this series.

[@WorldWarTwo]

So are we

[@illi1238]

3:25 In that picture, fourth man from the left is Christopher Lee as a teenager. He was one of the British volunteers

[@ease-l5330]

The amount of work that goes into each individual episode has got to be immense. Amazing job.

[@WorldWarTwo]

It is, but we humbly do it with pleasure. We truly believe in the power of keeping this history alive. Seeing so many people enjoy, learn from and engage with our video's and each other is more than enough to get us through it.

[@samhartford8677]

That was interesting, given that my Grandfather was eventually a Lieutenant General in the Finnish Pioneering Engineer forces penetrating force lines, blowing up bridges as well as laying down mine fields and clearing them out.

[@EikoHolic]

Keep up the great work Indy, Spartacus & crew! I look forward to every episode :-)

[@WorldWarTwo]

You're very welcome! So do we ;)

[@siameselimb8937]

Amazing animations and as always, great narration by Indy. Love you guys

[@WorldWarTwo]

siamese limb, Thank you very much! We appreciate the support!

[@jonbaxter2254]

The Winter War is a fascinating prelude to the major actions of WW2

[@TotteThorsen]

There's only a few countries I would enroll for volountary help/service for, Finland is one of them. I would be there in a heartbeat. Kind regards, Fellow Nordic

[@rohgels]

Your videos are something else man, keep it up, I hope this channel grows even more

[@vertie2090]

Easily the best WW2 channel online

[@useitwice]

”Finlands sak är vår!” Är så vackert att jag kan gråta.

[@jcb8014]

I love the way you end this episode (that's why you are very good at what you do)

[@miwoj]

I just noticed Hotzendorf on the wall. Nice touch.

[@maxashby8160]

This channel is evolving with every episode in that it covers not only strategy and tactics, but politics and culture in a very quick episode

[@WorldWarTwo]

We'll do specials on tactics, persons, equipment, hardware and culture later down the line, so we can go even more in depth :)

[@ThellmanIsANoob]

That guy on the left with the eye patch in the thumnail was my great great uncle. It feels very strange to see him on yt just randomly. He survived a granade blast that's why he has the eye patch.

[@WorldWarTwo]

@Dojeraf That is really amazing, thank you for sharing. The connections made between the subjects of our videos and our audience never ceases to amaze me. Thanks for watching.

[@robashton8606]

I can't believe this channel has been demonetised by KZbin! This is one of the most important periods of recent human history and the people taking the time to educate us about it deserve to be compensated for their efforts. I can't understand why something as valueless as Jake Paul's channel is able to make money when this one isn't. Get your act together KZbin.

[@Johankenzeler]

Ok, who also liked before watching? Love this channel!

[@spoonerbooner]

Lessons for today. Hay. Love the way you present this as current reporting techniques and style, just with facts

[@pnutz_2]

0:56 looks like germany is throwing a brick through belgium's window to hit france

[@angels2online]

Isn't that what actually happened?

[@themightyranger6321]

@SpyroSfilms OH JA JA

[@hunntar]

@SpyroSfilms Ein zwei PANZER DIVISION

[@mrmemred]

Absolutely loving these "phone conversations" in the beginning of the episode!

[@1415Khan]

Indy - Hey wanna smoke some weed tonight? Person on Phone - Who else will be there? Indy - 0:02

[@SpeedRacer-pz9jn]

Lamb's Bread, no boolsheet mon !

[@abian36]

25th video of the McCoy playlist reached. Onwards to another 25. Really enjoying this rewatch, it's been 4 years since I last watched these videos after all

[@valtteri2897]

We still have buildings with bombing damage here in Turku, chunks of granite with shrapnel holes in them.

[@braxen3937]

A great uncle to me(my dad's uncle) was one of the volunteers. I never met him but my dad remember asking him about it in his early teens but He never wanted to talk about it ever and just kinda froze up whenever it was brought up. He lost some fingers to frostbite and I guess he suffered from PTSD.

[@WorldWarTwo]

Thank you for sharing this personal story

[@ASwedeSpeaks]

I just got a better impression of Rickard Sandler. Also, my grandparents were from Finland, and left Finland in 1956. Thus, my grandpa fought at the front in Karelia.

[@ChappoIan]

I really liked the European map you showed when you talked about the Allies and Germany violating Norwegian neutrality and the Mechelen incident. Keep up the good work. I continue to support your channel and hope that anyone that is able to spare a few bucks a month does so!

[@WorldWarTwo]

Thank you so much! It's really thanks to people like yourself that we're able to keep doing this!

[@Imjustasimpleman5310]

@World War Two Just became a patron last night, but I think some sort of bug is not letting me login to timeghost.tv. Any ideas?

[@WorldWarTwo]

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[@Imjustasimpleman5310]

@World War Two Thank for getting back to me so soon! It must be the middle of the night for you. I'll try it again Wednesday after class. :)

[@johnanth]

A Jamaican guy? Now it's a party!

[@dardo1201]

"yeh mon."

[@JustSomeCanuck]

"Winter, as in ice?!"

[@dardo1201]

@@alexandrine1558 no one expects the bobsleigh inquisition.

[@SonicsniperV7]

@bearjew "FEEL THE RHYTHM, COMMIES"

[@MattMerica76]

But did he bring weed?

[@ScarletEdge]

Indy i really like your profound comment about human nobility at the end of this episode. It really moved me.

[@vikitheviki]

Fun fact: The people in Helsinki darkened most of the city and lit up the fields outside the town were most of the russian bombs landed 😁😂

[@luca5221]

Honestly i'm so glad you worked on ww1 it's saddening to see it go but I can't wait for more content on this channel keep it up indy.

[@WorldWarTwo]

Thanks! We are not finished for a very long time to come ;)

[@johanahlstrom5938]

there was 12 000+ swedish soldiers in Finland! Det fanns 12 000+ svenska frivilliga i Finland! Tack Sverige! thank you Sweden! Johan i/in Finland!

[@maritawillman14]

You're welcome.

[@mcfontaine]

This show is simply brilliant each and every week.

[@WorldWarTwo]

Thank you Mark - looking forward to talking Bletchley in the next days - Greetings from Sparty and Indy

[@Wallyworld30]

Finland was smart to not give up that territory to Russia. Yes, Russia got what it wanted after this bloody war but if they just handed over that land they fought over the USSR would have just snatched up the entire country. Basically what happened to Czechoslovakia and the Sudetenland and Germany would have happened to them.

[@spudrobera4099]

Finland was in the same boat with the Baltic states (which at the time Finland was considered one of). USSR demanded bases for itself inside these countries (for launching operations). It also demanded Finland to demolish possible defensive structure along the eastern border, including the Mannerheim Line. Finland ended up fortifying these after the war.

[@spudrobera4099]

@sweet apple After World War I the new sovereign states that emerged on the east coast of the Baltic sea - Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and during the Interwar period, Finland - became known as the "Baltic states"

[@lesliefranklin1870]

@@spudrobera4099 : Even though Finland is right there on the Baltic Sea, it is not considered a "Baltic state." Even though it is often grouped with them, especially Estonia, with whom it shares a lot. Similarly, Finland is not considered a "Scandinavian country" even though it is often grouped with them, especially Sweden, with whom it shares a lot.

[@cinderellaandstepsisters]

Finland shares a lot with Sweden . Finland was part of Sweden over 600 years and got it's culture and sivilization through it. Finns were known as sweds then. Finns were fighting in balkan war for Sweden and they were known with the name hakkapeliitat. Though finnish language and estonian language are finnougrian languages that is almost the only thing they share. When Estonia got it's independence from Soviet union Finland and Estonia are getting closer and I am happy about it.

[@jounisuninen]

@@cinderellaandstepsisters The Finnish "Hakkapeliitat" did not fight for Russia in the Balkan War 1853-56 but for Sweden in the 30 Years War 1618-48.

[@pelimies1818]

Tack för dej, bror.

[@MegaSovietRussian]

What an amazing production! Keep up the amazing work you guys!

[@TheMetalChef38]

Those few sentences about "the indomitable nobility of the human spirit" at the end of this episode really struck home for me. Needed to hear that...

[@farhanrahman7119]

Amazing work indy!

[@torgeirbrandsnes1916]

When it comes to the german invation of Norway there is an American hero, sorry heroin. She was FDR woman in Norway, and she wrote a book about it. It is something of the title like «Adventures of the north» She helped the Norwegian royal family to get to the US and stay there until jun of 45. FDR became very taken by The crown princess of Norway, Marta. I think the amb name was Harryman. I hope you can make an episode! Good job! Greetings from Norway!

[@discosecret6363]

Here in Michigan, there is a significant Finnish presence, especially in the Upper Peninsula. There is even a county that has a majority of people with Finnish ancestry. I’d be interested in finding out if any Michiganders joined in the fight.

[@j.9889]

Probably the best channel on KZbin, alongside The Great War. Certainly will donate to your patreon with my next paycheck.

[@WorldWarTwo]

Thank you for the compliment

[@francis9469]

Hey guys! love the show, but couldn't help but notice a big mistake. ONLY KV-U0 (the first prototype KV tank) actually saw action in Finland during the winter war. It is incorrect to say that 'dozens' were fielded for the assault on the Mannheim line. There was 20 KV pre-production tanks manufactured before production began in July 1940. I am a published military historian who specializes in Soviet armour, and am quite happy to help out in this regard! My first book is called 'Fallen Giants: The Combat Debut of the T-35A Tank', and my second book to be released this year is 'The T-34 Continuum'.

[@francis9469]

@@indiananeidell9186 Many thanks for replying. My source is Maxim Kolomiets 'Tanks of the Winter War', plus some other russian historians. I have quite a large collection of original WWII photographs, and i have a June 1941 photograph of KV-U0, after being abandoned (as the KV prototype tanks were issued to the mechanized corps). I will pop over to the website now.

[@WorldWarTwo]

In addition to Indy's reply: we'd love to receive help when we further dive into Soviet Armour! If you can send an email to [e-mail] i'll get back to you! - Joram

[@francis9469]

@@WorldWarTwo Many thanks for also commenting! i have just this second sent an email to the Time Ghost team. I hope i can be helpful in the future. Thanks for replying!

[@jonneojennus8702]

@@francis9469 just out of curiosity, you did check this from Finnish sources too? You are right though, just making sure. CCCP documentation can sometimes be a "little" fictional.

[@dflatt1783]

Excellent video. Thank you for this series.

[@WorldWarTwo]

Thnx

[@stephanmoore9234]

Fellow nordic brothers coming to the rescue! May they prevail together against the communist scum! 🇸🇪 🇫🇮 notice how I do not say “Scandinavian”, a lot of people mistake the finns as Scandinavians.

[@Morgow1]

The animations are great! Kudos to the animators!

[@WorldWarTwo]

Kudos to Eastory! Check his own channel too if you like his work for our series! kzbin.info/door/ElybFZ60Hk1NSjgCf7I2sg

[@horrido666]

Coincidentally, ASL just released an action pack that features scenarios with the Swedes in WW2, called Action Pack #15: Swedish Volunteers.

[@josefernandez6226]

Thanks for the shout out Indy!

[@WorldWarTwo]

We aim to please! (well, sometimes we do anyhow) / Indy

[@thomaswolf2896]

4:00 Hitler and Stalin were Allies at that time and Finland part of the Soviet "zone of interest" as defined in the Molotov-Ribbentrop-pact. He just gave Stalin free rein in Finland.

[@mohammadsab4478]

Why didnt I discover this before? Best WW2 history channel ever

[@WorldWarTwo]

Thank you

[@paul_v_1651]

The set looks greater, in every episode :)

[@naturalobserver6130]

I've been studying ww2 history most of my life and I gotta tell ya, this was some really good stuff.

[@WorldWarTwo]

Thank you!

[@Jakob_Herzog]

Holy shit is that indy neidell from the great war. Didn't know you had a ww2 channel as well.

[@bergstrom716]

Cant get enough of this THANK YOU.

[@menitobussolini659]

It's incredible that this war in Finland is still going on ,and it will go on until March

[@CaptainHarlock-kv4zt]

You don't know that.

[@menitobussolini659]

I'm the only one that knows

[@CaptainHarlock-kv4zt]

How is that possible ?

[@menitobussolini659]

Because I am Mussolini I know everything......except invading Greece without getting my ass kicked into Albania

[@CaptainHarlock-kv4zt]

You don't know that.You 'll conquer them in a minute if you try.

[@garthenar]

I've been thinking about those final words of hope a lot this week.

[@gronizherz3603]

Many politicians in Sweden at the time abdicated from their offices out of shame.

[@cwhittx2019]

HOW HAVE I JUST FOUND ABOUT THIS JUST FINISHED THE GREAT WAR CHANNELS VIDSSSS YUASSSSSSS

[@onnikauranen7012]

Fun fact: the russians bombed thei r own embassy in Helsinki

[@nosferatuoddz7974]

Wassup

[@peka2478]

The Russian embassador to Finland wouldve been shot back at home anyway, no?

[@manofculture6682]

Varmaan kännissä

[@hurri7720]

And after the war the Finns built a really posh one as part of the reparations, or what ever it is called ,towaeds the Russians. Beeing a small country in a conflict between the big ones is not easy. One of the most hard to understand from a Finnish point of wiev is that, one one side Russia did not declare war on Finland but attacked twice while Britain declared war on Finland, a surprise, while the USA never did, which to me proves that the Americans had a lot more intelligens and resolve than the British ever had. Unluckily for the Finns, due to that, the Americans where not allowed to take part in the peace commission with the Russians in Finland. In stead it was the British together with the Russians, and sadly, the British were of absolutely no help for the Finns. I still find this very odd if perhaps just normal after all.

[@mikefay5698]

@@hurri7720 Finland was a member of Hitler's Axis. What kind of History are you taught in Finnish schools?

[@Ork20111]

Like this series pretty much. Good quality. But here Indy slipped I think. The distance from Leningrad to Viipuri (today called Wyborg) is more than 100km. Even these big ass railroad guns did not have that kind of range. Wiki states the range of the Obukhovskii 12"/52 gun with about 31km. But noticing one mistake after 21 episodes is a pretty amazing result. Keep up the good work.

[@Yeeren]

Oof, those KV heavy tanks were true juggernauts in those days. 43 tons (that's "metric tons" to you folks across the pond) of tank may not sound like much to modern ears (modern Western-doctrine MBTs are typically 60-70 tons), but at the time it was enough armor to make the tank absolutely impervious to pretty much everything from the front and a tough nut to crack even from the sides. I'd like to see this addressed in an "Out of the Foxholes" episode, but I'm guessing Finnish doctrine for dealing with them was to blow up the tracks with mines or AT guns to immobilize the KV, and then once its supporting infantry has been dealt with the Finns would send in stealthy infantry from the sides with grenades, bombs or incendiary "cocktails" to deal with the stuck tank up close.

[@TheCatpirate]

Yeah, but it suffers the same fate as most late-war German tanks. A big gun and lots of armor, but without any speed or maneuverability. They were more like self-propelled guns than tanks.

[@Yeeren]

@@TheCatpirate I would not say ot suffers the same fate, as it was used in radically different circumstances than the late-war "big cats". Here, the USSR is the aggressor against an industrially-inferior adversary, and as such can make good use of their heavy tanks in attacks on Finnish hardened positions (where armor and firepower are a plus and mobility does not matter). In the German case, especially post-Normandy, the Germans are fighting defensively (or attempting counter-attack) against an industrially-SUPERIOR foe, with air superiority to boot. As defenders, they have to be mobile enough to get their tanks where the enemy chooses to attack, or to be able to avoid being flanked or encircled - and that's where mobility has an effect.

[@TheCatpirate]

@@Yeeren But the KV series basically died in 41 when the Germans attacked. That was when the Soviet Union was industrially INFERIOR to the Germans, and most of their tanks were barely able to compete with the Panzerkampfwagen III. But instead of betting on bigger, thiccer tanks, the put all their money in on making a metric sh[Advertiser-friendly word]-ton of tanks. The Germans originally followed this doctrine through the early war. The French Char tanks were actually superior to the heaviest German tanks at the time, but because they only had around 100, and they weren't very fast, they weren't able to be used effectively.

[@bernardobiritiki]

@@TheCatpirate literaly the opposite the kV tanks became even more relevant after 1941 as they were imune to almost all the anti guns the Germans used and had a powerful 76mm gun that couls deal with all german tanks and a good high explosive for troop support .altho they were the minority of the tanks that the USSR had at the time ,there are acounts of single kv tanks holding up whole panzer divisions look up Zinoviy Kolabanov or the Monster of Reseiniai

[@auguststorm2037]

KV tanks were good during Operation Barbarossa when red army was defending. After 1942 they were less useful because operating with faster T-34 they slow down the tanks platoons which a big issue when you attacking. Plus they were more expensive and longer to produce than T-34

[@seanmarcum2516]

Just found your channel and I must say theses videos are fantastic! Keep up the great work!

[@topittaja2686]

The pronunciation of the Finnish names in this video is the best I have heard from a non Finnish speaker

[@carpetclimber4027]

Indy lives in Sweden, so I guess it was quite easy to find someone fluent in Finnish to help him out.

[@johngault4790]

I love the look on Indy's face after hanging up the phone, he looked like he was saying well that's strange what do I do with that? 😂

[@araml.3138]

Awesome episode again. :-)

[@luxembourgishempire2826]

Yeah but he still hasn't #MENTIONEDLUXEMBOURG yet! 😭😭😭

[@lazarosvedour5829]

Nice to see Indy in a new project!

[@WorldWarTwo]

Thanks! Enjoy!

[@Blitzkrieg-1941-]

That ending was the best I've ever seen.

[@hallamhal]

Have you thought about doing your top 5 tanks? Would love to see that!

[@WorldWarTwo]

I did it already a year and a half ago! / Indy