Worst case fuel range test- Janus Halcyon 250 w/Moto cult stage 4

[@johnlenart597]

Very cool little bike. Very cool of you to bring us this video. Been out a few times this fall and also dressed for a summer ride. Froze also.!! Lol. The next 5 days in N E Ohio were getting 2-3 feet of snow ❄️. Will be dressing like the Michelen Man. 👍👍

[@UncleVoodoo]

I try to keep riding as long as the roads are dry, snow doesn't stick around very long here so if I'm out of action it's usually only for a couple of weeks or so. I just have to dress for it!

[@zfunk123]

Thanks for freezing your ass off for science!

[@UncleVoodoo]

Somebody's got to do it! lol. Thanks!

[@marktorbay]

Hi buddy, I remember when you did this on your himi when I bought mine and started following you just before. Still got the himi but have the 350 classic in marsh grey and did the test on mpg not distance and even though not driving slowly I got 92 mpg ( UK gallon). Really love the janus but imagine it with a j series engine in it, 😎

[@Walrus647]

Love your stuff man! Love Janus

[@UncleVoodoo]

Thanks! It's a "different" bike for sure and I'm growing more and more fond of it.

[@TheSkeptic-lz2cc]

My stock 2012 CB250 Nighthawk (twin cyl 234cc, carb. ). 77-80 mpg, always. 80 mph top speed, level. 4.2 US gallon tank.

[@ssstryker6136]

Good to know info. Love the style of these bikes. Low speed touring, reminds us the journey is ment to be part of the story.

[@UncleVoodoo]

This bike is for having a good time, not making good time! Thanks for watching.

[@edwardkaminsky8142]

Cool fuel test, Uncle. I would have thought a smidgen more mpg than you got. Very interesting. 40° is cold at 60 or 70 MPH. Need to know basis. Warm up and enjoy a hot toddi!

[@UncleVoodoo]

At the speeds I was maintaining- I was using a lot of throttle, so I knew the numbers wouldn't be great. It'll do better on the backroads I intend to be on most of the time.

[@musicmaestro88]

Loaded out with your travel gear will get interesting. I'm doing a 3400 round trip with my GT650 ( with luggage) ... all of a sudden I feel better about my fuel strategy. Lol. I've always said ANY bike can tour it just depends on how much you're willing to go through. Ride safe. 🏍💨

[@UncleVoodoo]

If I travel on it I'll be trying avoid these types of roads and sticking to lower speed and less traveled backroads. My Super Cub and Himalayan did the same thing when using wide open throttle a lot so this wasn't unexpected.

[@musicmaestro88]

@UncleVoodoo 💪🏾🏍💪🏾

[@turbobox7234]

Man, I kno how you feel doin some tests in the cold! Great vid, Uncle V

[@UncleVoodoo]

I should've at least made a better glove choice, but it had to be done. Thanks for watching.

[@datvik7187]

On the stock engine, I did about 45-48mpg, pinning the throttle for 200 miles on interstate 80. I did it on Bashan Brozz 250, same engine, but taller bike. So this is a nice improvement over the stock engine.

[@UncleVoodoo]

Bashan is actually the base engine supplier for Janus. Janus orders them spec'd up a little bit and the Moto Cult bring it's power level up to a level where inclines are less of a concern. No problems thus far!

[@MostlyInteresting]

My PC800 gets 45-50 riding in similar conditions. No reserve here, gas gauge. But the PC is just ticking along at 55-60, that makes it a tad more efficient.

[@UncleVoodoo]

my GT is the same way, under no stress at 55-60 and gets 65mpg

[@andreastomblin2137]

Just love the bike!

[@UncleVoodoo]

Thank you :)

[@peterrussell798]

So basically same range as a Harley with a peanut tank. 😂. Secret to riding a Janus 250 is avoid uphills and headwinds. Gorgeous bike, but kinda impractical. Thanks for freezing in the name of science. Solid video.

[@UncleVoodoo]

@@peterrussell798 my Super Cub had an even shorter range when running similar speeds. I’m trying to get Moto Cult to fab me a bracket to mount a 2nd fuel bag that’ll get my range up over 150mi.

[@7fish-Multifarious]

Mine is stock and i did the math on a tank at 68 mpg. it's not long after break in and where I live is pretty flat. (Just for comparison)

[@UncleVoodoo]

I'm sure it'll do much better under my normal riding conditions, with small bikes the riding environment can have a dramatic effect of fuel economy.

[@frederickwoods5943]

My 2012's: Bonneville SE and Thruxton routinely get 54mpg, my 2020 Speed Twin 1200 gets just over 60mpg and my Interceptor 750 (INT650 with 750cc big-bore kit) gets 72mpg; it got 75-76mpg as a 650. I am 6'4" and 220 pounds and just riding, not racing 'em.

[@UncleVoodoo]

Yup. Just like my Continent GT that gets 65mpg at those speeds. Small displacement bikes lose their economical status at the high rpms needed to keep up with "big bike" speeds. Top Gear demonstrated a BMW M3 getting better fuel economy than a Prius in a similar manner.

[@justkidding9751]

I get 57 mpg from my Kawasaki er6f and its 18 years old and its a 650 twin . That bike of yours is all about image. 😂

[@someone-wi4xl]

And it’s completely fine I don’t own one but damn i wish i can afford it Very unique and antique (visually and riding)

[@UncleVoodoo]

My Prius is 18 years old too and gets about the same milage, I knew running wide open and the small fuel tank would be an issue ahead of time so I'm trying to get them to make me a bracket for the left side of the bike to mount a 2nd fuel bag.

[@UncleVoodoo]

I didn't buy it for the "image", but rather for the old school build simplicity mechanicals, I predicted ahead of time that the fuel range would be short. The looks don't hurt though, as the general public seems to like the bike and are much friendlier towards me when I'm on it vs other bikes. I actually had to film the end of this video behind a hotel and not at the gas station so no one would just walk up to talk to me about the bike while I was filming :)

[@justkidding9751]

@UncleVoodoo 5 minute talking point. The problem is it has a Chinese engine. Very under powered, terrible fuel consumption.

[@UncleVoodoo]

@@justkidding9751 The "Chinese" part isn't what makes it underpowered and have poor fuel economy, it was Chinese built (and Pakistani and Brazilian) when Honda was producing bikes with this (125cc) engine. The CG engine was designed on purpose by Honda to address the issue of people not doing the required maintenance on their CB bikes in developing countries. So they took a step backwards to an OHV engine vs their current (at the time-1970s) OHC engines- the result is an engine that can take a beating but is less powerful and efficient. I embrace that, as I was looking for an OHV engine for my next small bike due to lessons learned from my Monkey and Super Cub (and the Grom community), if I wanted a small engine that is dead simple/reliable and bomb proof I should look for an OHV engine and in exchange I'd be giving up power and fuel economy. That's a very small list of bikes these days that aren't junk. Chinese manufacturing is something most consumers don't quiteunderstand,.. there is a difference between having something mfr'd in China and buying junk off of Amazon and eBay. The Chinese can make fine products (BMW motorcycles, Tesla cars, the cameras this video was shot on and whatever device you are communication with me on etc) and they can make complete crap if it's intended to be cheap... It all comes down to the specs and quality requested and paid for by whoever is commissioning the product to be made. You get what you pay for from China. It's a matter of money, not a geographic or political one. It's not as if the Chinese are somehow totally incapable of making a good product... like the Japanese who are only 300mi away. It's more that the majority of consumers around the world want cheap stuff, so the Chinese have made a name for themselves by making it for them. I spoke with one of the founders of Janus about having this engine made,.. and they literally had to go through a parts diagram and place the order by up spec'ing the quality every specific part for pennies apiece to arrive at the engine build they wanted.