“Worst controller in the country” pilot immediately regrets!

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@tjfSIM
@tjfSIM 10 ай бұрын
I've never heard "have a great day" spoken with such sarcasm 😂
@Flight_Follower
@Flight_Follower 10 ай бұрын
😁😁
@somethingsomething404
@somethingsomething404 10 ай бұрын
And such force lol
@snowowl1343
@snowowl1343 8 ай бұрын
Eagle was pretty much asking for the shortcut, when he said he had the field in sight, then complaining about a tight turn?
@Jimmyjimjimjim
@Jimmyjimjimjim 8 ай бұрын
You never been married😂
@RuneSmedstuen
@RuneSmedstuen 8 ай бұрын
Oh, you should have heard me 20 years ago on a friday morning! One guy started to be pretty rude on the phone while I was having my morning coffee, telling me I could but the phone and other things up my a**. My smile was continually growing as he unloaded more and more frustration... I told him to have a great day, and his phone went flying!! Still recall the event with found memories to this day!
@tstanley01
@tstanley01 8 ай бұрын
I hot mic'd on my solo long cross country for my PPL. I landed and was taxing behind a hovering helicopter. I was thinking out loud "Hurry up dude, I need to take a shit...". 30 minutes later after getting gas and getting a dr pepper, I fired up and after I asked for taxi, they started laughing and asked if I made it to the restroom on time, then proceeded to tell me my mic was stuck...now I look at the transmit light before saying anything I wouldn't want the world to hear...
@Capecodham
@Capecodham 8 ай бұрын
ppl?
@Shadow__133
@Shadow__133 8 ай бұрын
@@CapecodhamPrivate Pilot License
@dopiaza2006
@dopiaza2006 8 ай бұрын
Could have been worse... kzbin.info/www/bejne/rKmkYqGhdrV0bLc
@atcJ
@atcJ 8 ай бұрын
I’ve done similar as an ATC. Our headsets for some reason have a feature that allows the push to talk to be stuck down. I’ve complained about pilots live to the world. Now, I always check to see if my mic is keyed before I start talking smack to the person next to me just in case.
@Shadow__133
@Shadow__133 8 ай бұрын
@@atcJ Lol, apparently Boeing designed the hand mic trigger to be aligned perfectly with my knee. I've had two mildly entertaining situations. Now my procedure is to flip it every time I sit down 😂
@c200d45e95
@c200d45e95 9 ай бұрын
I can literally TASTE the salt in that last "have a GREAT day" call. WONDERFUL.
@Flight_Follower
@Flight_Follower 9 ай бұрын
You and me both!
@doyourownresearch7297
@doyourownresearch7297 9 ай бұрын
salt bae
@whiskyeet
@whiskyeet 8 ай бұрын
Yep, his cholesterol went through the roof with that one.
@cracker4706
@cracker4706 9 ай бұрын
That happened to me in the Airforce. I was talking about the wing commander. Thank God i was saying nice things about him
@DblOSmith
@DblOSmith 2 ай бұрын
You definitely lucked out. Lol
@silverwiskers7371
@silverwiskers7371 27 күн бұрын
happened to me at work and button was pushed. i was overheard talking about the women in the office. i had a pink slip when i got off
@coqueto45
@coqueto45 10 ай бұрын
Something tells me that he did not, in fact, want him to have a great day...
@Flight_Follower
@Flight_Follower 10 ай бұрын
😁
@GeneralThargor
@GeneralThargor 8 ай бұрын
In a way that doesn't involve crashing and burning all over the airfield.
@wtfminny
@wtfminny 6 ай бұрын
So what are the typical ramifications from an error such as this? I hear that you never want to have to call that phone number. But, I’ve never heard what’s waiting at the other end.
@gezenews
@gezenews 4 ай бұрын
@alexlindsey6446 That was a smiling hotkey for certain. "we were unaware" yeah sure
@geert574
@geert574 2 ай бұрын
nothing what are they gonna do the earth doesnt shit pilots, McDonalds workers u fire on a whim pilots have protection
@gchsbus
@gchsbus 3 ай бұрын
I KNOW DURING MY FLIGHT INSTRUCTION, my instructor told me that you should never have a conversation in the cockpit you would not want anyone else to hear in the event you have a radio issue and you have a hot mic. He reminded me of this every time we flew. I never forgot it.
@paulstejskal
@paulstejskal 2 ай бұрын
Sounds like he did this and embarrassed himself.
@Cougar2063
@Cougar2063 8 ай бұрын
I was a controller on Sectors in Australia. Many years ago a female controller friend of mine inadvertently went hot mic during a quieter period. Unfortunately she launched into the chorus of “I see you Baby” by Groove Armada. “I see you baby, shakin’ that ass, shakin’ that ass”, on repeat!
@JONESSTI01
@JONESSTI01 8 ай бұрын
Did she shake that ass all the way to the employment office or just get a warning?
@RadioactiveSherbet
@RadioactiveSherbet 7 ай бұрын
I bet she hasn't heard the end of that. LOL! Random colleague: "Hey, you remember when [...]" Controller: "Yeah, yeah. I know! I know! Can you stop bringing it up?!"
@adamdriver1016
@adamdriver1016 Ай бұрын
Australian ATC are the worst in the world, well maybe after jFK. Their attitude is beyond comprehension.
@ggregg0
@ggregg0 Ай бұрын
@@adamdriver1016 Kennedy Steve retired and JFK went to shit?
@CoffeeMatt10
@CoffeeMatt10 10 ай бұрын
2:53 “have a *great* day” 😂😂
@Flight_Follower
@Flight_Follower 10 ай бұрын
😂😂
@grayrabbit2211
@grayrabbit2211 10 ай бұрын
People bring a smile to my face when they come to my office. Some when they arrive, some when they leave.
@arctain1
@arctain1 10 ай бұрын
Yea, the dripping sarcasm and attitude makes me think there is some validity to what the pilot mentioned
@defectivegorilla
@defectivegorilla 9 ай бұрын
​@@arctain1I don't know about that, I'd say a bit of sarcasm in this situation was well earned. After all, there's some irony in that this pilot had the brass to make comments about the ATC's incompetence while he was foolish enough to block the entire channel for a good 20 seconds due to his own. Imo he's lucky the controller was professional enough to restrain from making comments on air, unlike the numerous other examples that can be found on YT for much pettier insults.
@arctain1
@arctain1 9 ай бұрын
@@defectivegorilla - agreed. The pilot was an ironic ass. So was the controller 😁
@idonthaveanamenoone3526
@idonthaveanamenoone3526 10 ай бұрын
For the newbies: "On guard" means they're actually hailing them on a side frequency, meaning it will not interfere directly with the normal channel that is being blocked. This is because it is very dangerous to BLOCK a channel, with a "hot key" aka you're accidentally holding the button/key and transmitting when you shouldn't be-because no one else also using that channel can communicate or receive during the moments you're hot keyed. Further, for the newbies: you'll be seeing some talk about, "sterile cockpit" - I'm not sure if it's a technical legal jargon, but it pertains to the policies at minimum that can be accountable in court of law when it comes to the...well cockpit. Basically, there are laws and rules governing how and when you can talk and be casual, vs when you can be distracted and shoot the shit. As others are saying, under 10k feet (which is like...very low all things considered, you'd have only seconds to fix major issues before impact with ground) you have to be focused on your job and by policy ONLY your job. Any other type of discussion is banned, against policy, and in some cases might even be unlawful although I'm not exactly sure what the procedures there would be. Lastly, you can hear a couple of muffled sounds-though subtle-during the initial hot mic. This is because two broadcasts are overlapping on the same frequencies. Similarly, a few moments later you hear a series of sounds maybe I'd describe them as blips or static pulses. This is a non verbal signal that you are hot mic'd. Pulse pulse pulse... Pulse pulse pulse... Hey clown stop broadcasting!
@dx1450
@dx1450 9 ай бұрын
I believe sterile cockpit applies any time you're below 10,000 feet. Upon pushback, taxiing to the runway, takeoff and climb. Then from the descent, approach, landing & taxiing to the gate.
@bitsofgeek
@bitsofgeek 8 ай бұрын
All of the above is spot on. Guard is 121.5 Mhz, the international distress frequency and pilots are taught early on to try to keep that frequency tuned in on their second radio in case they hear a call from either an aircraft in distress (bad), ATC to them (worse), or an air defense fighter calling them (worst). As far as sterile cockpit, the main phrase there is "critical phase of flight" which the regulations define as "all ground operations involving taxi, takeoff, and landing, and all other flight operations below 10,000 feet except cruise flight". Those are times where being distracted can cause a serious incident, so you should not be doing anything that is not related to the safe operation of the aircraft.
@s_m_v
@s_m_v 8 ай бұрын
A properly configured radio will only have your sidetone in your headset. You will not hear the other transmissions, let alone a "pulse".
@gezenews
@gezenews 4 ай бұрын
@@bitsofgeek Seemed like relevant information
@frankgrimesification
@frankgrimesification 9 ай бұрын
Legend has it that the controller had that pilot make one last 120 degree turn with a strong tailwind just for laughs.
@ByronGamble-wx7gc
@ByronGamble-wx7gc Ай бұрын
Maybe he WAS trying to fly him into the ground
@analogman9697
@analogman9697 10 ай бұрын
In my youth, I once recited "The old man from nantucket" beginning to end, not realizing a manager was standing behind me. A "hot key" alert would have been appreciated. I know how this guy feels.
@Flight_Follower
@Flight_Follower 10 ай бұрын
😂😂
@ThatIrishGuy01
@ThatIrishGuy01 10 ай бұрын
What's the rest of the limerick haha?
@chefruggy8022
@chefruggy8022 9 ай бұрын
​@@ThatIrishGuy01 There once was a man from Nantucket Who's di@k was so long he could suck it He said with a grin While wiping his chin If my ear were a hole i could fu&k it.
@richardvoogd705
@richardvoogd705 9 ай бұрын
​@@ThatIrishGuy01there was an old man from Leeds, who swallowed a packet of seeds......
@michman2
@michman2 8 ай бұрын
@@ThatIrishGuy01 There was an old man from Nantucket, who brought his fish home in a bucket. His wife wouldn't clean 'em, so he couldn't eat 'em. He was heard to exclaim "Oh Fuc-getaboutit.". Enjoy.
@sdluke
@sdluke 10 ай бұрын
Worst controller in the country was the PDX one making the Alaska acft say 3 times they were emergency
@Capecodham
@Capecodham 8 ай бұрын
pdx? acft?
@sdluke
@sdluke 8 ай бұрын
​@@Capecodhamthere was an Alaska flight from PDX and the controller made them repeat 3 times that they were emergency.
@Capecodham
@Capecodham 8 ай бұрын
@@sdluke PDX?
@sdluke
@sdluke 8 ай бұрын
@@Capecodham Jesus can you form a complete question? Portland airport
@Capecodham
@Capecodham 8 ай бұрын
@@sdluke Jesus can you give out a proper location, Portland Maine?
@TheGordyb102
@TheGordyb102 8 ай бұрын
The controller was professional in spite of hearing the rude comments, cudos to him
@WhiskeyGulf71
@WhiskeyGulf71 8 ай бұрын
That’s a call i’d love to have listened in on 😂
@edjarrett3164
@edjarrett3164 9 ай бұрын
In my years flying, I don’t remember making snide comments about ATC. ATC was always my friend even when it was extremely busy. Certainly, we would never transmit inter cockpit comms over ATC frequency. Having flown with Potomac approach, broadcasting your conversation deserves a phone call. Can’t imagine what that conversation was like.
@Full_Deflection
@Full_Deflection 8 ай бұрын
If you’ve flown for years, especially around DC, you’ve said something about ATC that wasn’t positive.
@edjarrett3164
@edjarrett3164 8 ай бұрын
@@Full_Deflection True. But it’s never involved a phone call. Usually a poor read back or blocked call. You don’t get to do the river tour with a bunch of spouses and show them NYC landmarks in a jet. That’s what these ATC controllers allowed us to do. It was an amazing day.
@archstanton6441
@archstanton6441 8 ай бұрын
The pilot made a mistake. We all do. As a retired 30 year controller, 25 of which was at ORD, I've heard many open mics in the past. And, he might be right about what he said.
@saybrowt
@saybrowt 7 ай бұрын
​@archstanton6441 Can you explain a bit more how he might be right? I'm just a lay person and curious to know the perspective of an actual professional.
@archstanton6441
@archstanton6441 7 ай бұрын
@saybrowt Potomac TRACON (PCT) isn't known as being efficient or easy to work with. When I was a controller, I can't tell you how many times pilots have told me that they wished the FAA would send some ORD and C90 controllers the PCT to "teach them how to move airplanes". They over control traffic, they promote unqualified people..... they place too much emphasis on DEI rather than ATC.
@MrMcSwifty
@MrMcSwifty 10 ай бұрын
Delta pilot was like... wtf did *I* do lol
@Flight_Follower
@Flight_Follower 10 ай бұрын
😂😂
@somethingsomething404
@somethingsomething404 10 ай бұрын
“Man I just got here wtf calling me on guard and telling me about phone numbers” 😂 I think that combo would make most pilots previous actions flash before their eyes
@jaxonboys3366
@jaxonboys3366 10 ай бұрын
I'm sure that he had to amend his manifest from 75 Souls to 74 Souls on board.
@billthacet
@billthacet 10 ай бұрын
Late 1980's, El Monte airport in SoCal. We were familiar with the instructors on the field. Cherokee (We'll call him N34A, I don't recall the actual call sign.) requests taxi for pattern work. Ground Control (Me) cleared him "Taxi to and hold short rwy 19". N34A responds and taxis, with a stuck mile for the entire time. Amongst the gems of advice the instructor gave to the student, he went off a bit on ATC, how we were prima donnas, and how the pilot does all the work, while ATC sat there in their air conditioned towers and their comfortable charis and so forth. When he finally got to the rwy end, he finally checks in with "N34A holding short at 19". I replied "N34A contact tower on 121.2, oh and John, by the way, the chairs aren't all that comfy." John was very contrite for a few weeks after that.
@troymcintyre3921
@troymcintyre3921 9 ай бұрын
😂
@Flight_Follower
@Flight_Follower 9 ай бұрын
What a story man 😂😂
@billthacet
@billthacet 9 ай бұрын
@@Flight_Follower 34 years ATC, I got a bucket load of stories.
@Capecodham
@Capecodham 8 ай бұрын
rwy?
@billthacet
@billthacet 8 ай бұрын
@@Capecodham rwy = runway
@pyme495
@pyme495 10 ай бұрын
For those saying "no violation", I've got two things..... First, yes, it is a violation of the sterile cockpit rule. Secondly, the controller never said "possible pilot deviation". He just basically said "Call me". He was professional enough to take it offline and not get into a feud on the radio, but definitely wanted to have a few words with the pilot. They could discuss it, without cluttering up the channel and having every other aircraft on frequency listening in. He had other work to do, and wasn't going to be distracted on the radio. I liked the way he handled it.
@Flight_Follower
@Flight_Follower 10 ай бұрын
Absolutely!
@kbg990
@kbg990 10 ай бұрын
While you're right about the sterile cockpit rule, I'd say it's completely irrelevant for the controller wanting to talk over the phone. Hence from the controllers point of view, there was indeed no violation. I agree with you though that he handled it professionally.
@bro9479
@bro9479 10 ай бұрын
There was no violation at all.
@pyme495
@pyme495 10 ай бұрын
@@kbg990 The controller wasn't really interested in talking about sterile cockpit. He was interested in talking to them about their comments about the controllers.
@Flight_Follower
@Flight_Follower 10 ай бұрын
I guess we will never know for sure
@bro9479
@bro9479 10 ай бұрын
Transmission wasn't intentional from Eagle, and ATC talks plenty of trash off frequency too. Just ask any controller. Anyone who thinks otherwise hasn't seen the real world of aviation. No big deal here imo.
@Flight_Follower
@Flight_Follower 10 ай бұрын
talking bad about a controller by hot mic while talking to them...thats some coincidence
@Riverrockphotos
@Riverrockphotos 10 ай бұрын
3 words sterile cockpit rule!
@user-re4hc7yf2m
@user-re4hc7yf2m 10 ай бұрын
@@Flight_Follower Are you retarded? Have you been inside the cockpit of a real plane? Shit happens all the time on accident.
@bro9479
@bro9479 10 ай бұрын
@@Riverrockphotos 1st of all - thats irrelevant. 2nd - this falls within the confines of what is allowed under sterile cockpit. Please don't try to act like the sterile cockpit police if you have no experience with it.
@Flight_Follower
@Flight_Follower 10 ай бұрын
I used to be a military pilot,sir You don’t have to be rude and offensive to express your opinion.. shit does happen in a cockpit (more so in a military aircraft).. just not on frequency with an audience Thanks
@WWPlaysHoldem
@WWPlaysHoldem 8 ай бұрын
Controllers are not in charge of pilots, they can report a matter to FSDO and let them investigate.
@ra2186
@ra2186 6 ай бұрын
It's always fun when you hear the voice of a controller you're familair with.
@WarrenGarabrandt
@WarrenGarabrandt 10 ай бұрын
Here's a thought: Keep those negative, unproductive words out of your mouth when you're flying an airplane. They only waste time and potentially create a bad crew resource management situation on the airplane. Professionalism is never going to get you that "I have a number for you to copy" radio call.
@Flight_Follower
@Flight_Follower 10 ай бұрын
Its easier said than done I guess specially for long haul flights.. you can always have a chit chat.. but obviously not in critical phases of flight
@pyme495
@pyme495 10 ай бұрын
They're not having a long haul on the Eagle.
@shanelodge391
@shanelodge391 10 ай бұрын
Sterile cockpit 😂😂😂
@bro9479
@bro9479 10 ай бұрын
Lol If you think ATC doesn't talk plenty of crap too I've got news for you
@WarrenGarabrandt
@WarrenGarabrandt 10 ай бұрын
@@bro9479 humans are human.
@formallyvalidusername5262
@formallyvalidusername5262 2 ай бұрын
I just met you, and you are cray cray. Here's a number. Have a GREAT day!
@aj-2savage896
@aj-2savage896 9 ай бұрын
I'm remembering when Homer Simpson wondered, "Was that just in my head or did I really say it?"
@captaino16
@captaino16 8 ай бұрын
are you going to the Duff Brewery?
@RomNYC
@RomNYC 10 ай бұрын
Gotta love the emphasis on "have a GREEAAT day" 😂
@Flight_Follower
@Flight_Follower 10 ай бұрын
Yeah the pilot knew what he meant 🙃
@texsquirrel213
@texsquirrel213 10 ай бұрын
That was the equivalent to the old southern, „bless your heart.“
@davidbrayshaw3529
@davidbrayshaw3529 9 ай бұрын
Call it a sixth sense, but I know that the controller didn't mean it.
@Capecodham
@Capecodham 8 ай бұрын
gotta?
@RomNYC
@RomNYC 8 ай бұрын
@@Capecodham Yeah?
@MrArravelo
@MrArravelo 10 ай бұрын
He got humble pretty quick!
@Flight_Follower
@Flight_Follower 10 ай бұрын
Haha yeah
@daver7465
@daver7465 9 ай бұрын
Wow that took some effort to continue blabbing on about the controllers while they're calling you on guard haha.
@granthughes1801
@granthughes1801 10 ай бұрын
All the pilots in the comments with their bruised egos. Had the controller been the one insulting pilots on frequency, you can bet they'd be screeching for his head. Let's also keep in mind that pilot error is the overwhelming cause of all accidents. They like to blame anyone but themselves for their bad behavior.
@TimothyOnline
@TimothyOnline 3 ай бұрын
"Have a *great day.*" (nonchalantly) "You as well." 🤣
@alljunk4824
@alljunk4824 5 ай бұрын
I LOVE that controller! HAhaha, calm and professional. "you have a great day".
@bengaltiger96
@bengaltiger96 4 ай бұрын
Not while flying, but once when I worked for a water district and was driving the route showing a newbie where all the irrigation meters were, the mic was hot-keyed and I was talking a lot of shit about the 2IC manager. Apparently he stopped into the office while I was out. I had the next day off, which is when they officially terminated me. I showed up the day after and was invited to the office by said manager. He had an envelope and tape recorder in hand. He started to playback my comments, and when he stopped, he asked if I had anything to say. I told him "yeah, you haven't gotten to the good parts yet." He told me they were paying me for that day, and not to push my luck. So, much like Craig in Friday, I got fired on my day off.
@AwestrikeFearofGods
@AwestrikeFearofGods 5 күн бұрын
This reminds of when coworkers talk trash about the customer while on a conference call, and then panic and glance over to check the mute button.
@oldNavyJZ
@oldNavyJZ 10 ай бұрын
"Eagle 3040, you hurt my feelings. Here's a number."
@Flight_Follower
@Flight_Follower 10 ай бұрын
🤣
@pneulancer
@pneulancer 9 ай бұрын
Oh yeah!
@JakeC-xx8zq
@JakeC-xx8zq 9 ай бұрын
Typical for modern times. Feelings trump everything.
@johnpooky84
@johnpooky84 9 ай бұрын
​@@JakeC-xx8zqand people Biden to that idea, and look where we are now.
@JakeC-xx8zq
@JakeC-xx8zq 9 ай бұрын
@@johnpooky84 lol nice
@billy2bob63
@billy2bob63 8 ай бұрын
That off airport traffic controller sounded just like my Son who's a air traffic controller 🤣😂🤣
@stephenwalton9646
@stephenwalton9646 3 сағат бұрын
A United Captain was coasting out of Australia and bid the controllers farewell by telling them he had been coming down to Oz for years and they were the friendliest most welcoming folks in the world and how he had enjoyed it. Also said they had the second best controllers in the world. ATC replied with a thank you and asked who the best controllers were. The reply.”Everyone else.” And with that he was on oceanic via CPDLC.
@jonchambers131
@jonchambers131 10 ай бұрын
If the pilot couldn't make the turn why did he accept it?
@lesliesmith719
@lesliesmith719 9 ай бұрын
I wonder how American felt about all the anger during landing. I want my pilot to follow sterile cockpit rule when taking off and landing.
@deeazz777
@deeazz777 9 ай бұрын
So much for sticking to the "sterile cockpit" rule below FL 100...
@SeeingEyeMonkey
@SeeingEyeMonkey Ай бұрын
I kind of agree with him. Some of the most aggressive controllers I have encountered have been in DC. Especially in IAD. Saying “they will fly you into the ground” is just a way of saying they suck. That doesn’t happen anymore.
@InFltSvc
@InFltSvc 8 ай бұрын
My God even the pilots and grounds are at each other’s throats!
@NoHandle689x
@NoHandle689x 10 ай бұрын
I am wondering if it was wise of the ATC to give them additional workload while they are busy intercepting the localizer. In any case, requiring to copy a phone number was not an ATC instruction that added value to the safety of the traffic in the tracon.
@Flight_Follower
@Flight_Follower 10 ай бұрын
now thats a new point of view!
@grimmster111
@grimmster111 10 ай бұрын
now it was bleeped out for sure, but with the end of that I was pretty sure then number was 540-ass-hole. nothing to actually write down
@darkpixel2k
@darkpixel2k 10 ай бұрын
They could have done it on the ground. But then again, one person is usually doing the flying and the other one is doing the comms... So I doubt it was a big deal.
@bellboy4074
@bellboy4074 10 ай бұрын
copy WHEN READY
@harveysmith100
@harveysmith100 10 ай бұрын
The "Have a great day" was like a left hook
@Flight_Follower
@Flight_Follower 10 ай бұрын
😅😅 yeah
@benbazy9238
@benbazy9238 10 ай бұрын
Deal with controllers long enough and well I am sure almost every pilot has said this to themselves and each other. Just not on a hot mic!!!!
@rtbrtb_dutchy4183
@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 10 ай бұрын
Nope, after 3 decades of flying, I’ve never said this or thought this.
@phillipwhite8463
@phillipwhite8463 10 ай бұрын
@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183I was a controller, they hated pilots, and I was a pilot. It sucked working around people who did not give a crap about aviation and hated pilots. I could talk for hours about those losers.
@rtbrtb_dutchy4183
@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 10 ай бұрын
@@phillipwhite8463 well, that’s a shame. In my career, I made friends with controllers and never thought they hated me. Heck, in the beginning of my career, I flew traffic reporters around early in the morning and afternoon at a class D airport. In the mornings, after I landed around 9am, they would invite me up in the tower for a coffee, until it was just a habit. Did that for 2 years. I had fun up there. Learned a lot too. Never felt hated.
@iahflyr4690
@iahflyr4690 10 ай бұрын
And I had the same work environment with co-workers who did not care about aviation either. I asked on of them one day "why the hell are you even in this building".....the clown just looked at me and he said "cuzz it pays well and have to do nothing".@@phillipwhite8463
@taylandinler
@taylandinler 3 ай бұрын
After seeing lots of hot keyed mic videos, where they talk about something which only should be heard from your flight crew partner and shouldn’t be heard outside of the cockpit, before talking that stuff, I would check that my mic button is not jammed
@paulstejskal
@paulstejskal 2 ай бұрын
What might the phone call have been like? Does this get reported to the FAA and a strike on the pilots record?
@nick12046
@nick12046 2 ай бұрын
What happens after the flight crew calls the # provided? Is it a permanenet stain on their flying record? Does the flight crew's employer learn of the incident? Would someone go through the process please? Thanks.
@stuartmattingly9681
@stuartmattingly9681 10 ай бұрын
Often the phone call is not for a discussion, but a notice that you will be reported to the FAA and you will need to contact them within a certain time period. I for one love my controllers. Mostly I am in class D airspace, and they have saved my ass on multiple occasions. Tough job dealing with egos.
@Flight_Follower
@Flight_Follower 10 ай бұрын
right on
@phillipwhite8463
@phillipwhite8463 10 ай бұрын
I worked at Salt Lake Center, leaving that crap hole was the best decisions I have made. Total morons, like every last one of them. The Alaska flight 1282 treatment by controllers was not a surprise to me. During training we would have these scripted emergency and our job was to tell them you are landing here, you are doing this. Stupid stupid stupid. I remember a call of a hydraulic issue, landing salt lake. Salt lake approach wanted them on the short runway 17-35, because they did not want one of there long runways shut down. That was a big NO, and it went from we have a hydraulic issue to we are declaring an emergency. Oh, but a lot of controller love but kissers, so you will do fine. Ok tower controllers, I can’t say. A lot of them are working as contractors and not for the federal government. Federal government sucks.
@arctain1
@arctain1 10 ай бұрын
No ‘possible pilot deviation’ was mentioned. The controller got torqued and just wanted a chance to chew the pilot out ‘off air’ … 🙄
@RNAvirus
@RNAvirus 10 ай бұрын
Unless you compromise saftey, Class D controllers educate and do not report you.
@KingdaToro
@KingdaToro 10 ай бұрын
@@RNAvirus Blocking the frequency compromises safety. What was actually said is irrelevant.
@polakatl
@polakatl Ай бұрын
I was hoping ATC would call out the altitude above ground just to make sure American doesn't bottom out.
@dutchpilotguy
@dutchpilotguy 10 ай бұрын
The funny thing is that watching this interaction from the third person perspective is exactly like watching how most controllers and pilots treat each other anyways! 😂
@Flight_Follower
@Flight_Follower 10 ай бұрын
Thats kinda true 😅
@bellboy4074
@bellboy4074 10 ай бұрын
No, it isn't.
@mathursharad007
@mathursharad007 10 ай бұрын
If it’s true then none of us should be flying because we rely on professionalism and trust between them at all times. This kind of broad speculation is not necessary.
@alexgolovchenko3791
@alexgolovchenko3791 8 ай бұрын
Why the hell would the pilot want to say that about ATC?! I wouldn't even think it, let alone say it.😖
@seriouscat2231
@seriouscat2231 8 ай бұрын
Because it makes him feel better in comparison.
@richardhaighway4816
@richardhaighway4816 7 ай бұрын
He didn't specify what ATC though. It sounded like a convo started, call was made from/to ATC then stuck MIC. It is possible they flew in to Chicago last night and were talking about them and this guy took it as him Now yes, unprofessional but lets let them land and everyone get over it and grow thicker skin
@seriouscat2231
@seriouscat2231 7 ай бұрын
@@richardhaighway4816, please remember sterile cockpit rules before thinking that hurt feelings were the only problem here.
@richardhaighway4816
@richardhaighway4816 7 ай бұрын
@@seriouscat2231 I'm not disputing that. Not at all. I also agree unprofessional. But that ATC would be just as hurt if he said it cruising at 32k. I'm just saying no context is the issue. And when he called that number no "sterile cockpit" was the primary argument let's be honest.
@seriouscat2231
@seriouscat2231 7 ай бұрын
@@richardhaighway4816, I always prefer dishonesty when "honesty" means making assumptions about someone's feelings, thoughts or emotional maturity.
@kato76109
@kato76109 8 ай бұрын
@1:24, Who said "Cross your radio"?
@kato76109
@kato76109 8 ай бұрын
This is awesome! The controller tried to warn him that he was hot keyed lol. So, what happens when they make the call? What's the process? Any pilots here had to make the call before?
@MrRicknavon
@MrRicknavon 7 ай бұрын
The communication is so fast I can’t keep up with it. I guess it’s a learned skill and separates the pro from the amateur.
@JRNation8988
@JRNation8988 8 ай бұрын
Worst controller in the country is located at KSSF. If you’ve ever flown in or out of there, you know who I’m talking about.
@ozarkmedia
@ozarkmedia 8 ай бұрын
I was in the jumpseat of an Air Force C-130 and the pilot, copilot and I were just shooting the breeze about everything. The folks at ZFW fed us enough rope to have a good time with us and then made the call. We all felt a little stupid. At least we weren't bashing them on open mike.
@Flight_Follower
@Flight_Follower 8 ай бұрын
Very common in the military flying. LoL
@JohnLemieux
@JohnLemieux 7 ай бұрын
That guy has one of the worst cases of pilot voice ive ever heard
@jamesp13152
@jamesp13152 10 ай бұрын
Omg, I'm blushing just watching this.
@Flight_Follower
@Flight_Follower 10 ай бұрын
I know pretty embarrassing right!?
@TheMrdhyde
@TheMrdhyde 6 ай бұрын
Ohhhh dude in tower is gonna tell on you for hearing what pilots really think about these controllers. Smh.... Hope that lil child is ok and has his blanky.
@georgeforall
@georgeforall 10 ай бұрын
There’s a saying in broadcasting: “All mics are hot”
@sludge8506
@sludge8506 10 ай бұрын
I bet the ATC and the pilot had a good laugh about this on the phone. The violation was the pilot taking up radio space unnecessarily. ATC doesn’t sound like they took it personally. 🤪🤪🤪🤪
@davidbrayshaw3529
@davidbrayshaw3529 9 ай бұрын
Probably not a great idea to be having a conversation with your co worker as you prepare to land, either. A couple of violations there, I would suggest.
@nursetazzi
@nursetazzi 8 ай бұрын
"Have a GRRREAT day!" 😂😂
@whatilearnttoday5295
@whatilearnttoday5295 8 ай бұрын
Way to prove the point.
@josetaveira7094
@josetaveira7094 10 ай бұрын
Ptt was stuck, controller got pissed he said What he said , no need for a number to call
@DaDin600
@DaDin600 8 ай бұрын
Foreal, I was looking for this comment. He also could have been talking about the controllers on some other trip too
@RustyorBroken
@RustyorBroken 8 ай бұрын
They were violating sterile cockpit rules, blocking the frequency so ATC couldn't talk to other aircraft, and being unprofessional. The call was very much warranted.
@jamesgullo8240
@jamesgullo8240 8 ай бұрын
Once you get the dreaded " I have a number for you to call" it's gonna be a bad day.
@irishmal1
@irishmal1 2 ай бұрын
Wish the phone call was recorded
@johnnastrom9400
@johnnastrom9400 4 ай бұрын
When the ATC tells you that he has a phone number for you to call, you're doomed!
@m747hvy6
@m747hvy6 4 ай бұрын
I've seen stuck mics happen to friends. Never to me. I learned to bitch about controllers in the van, not in the cockpit.
@mgaeeeee9150
@mgaeeeee9150 8 ай бұрын
What is the number they have to call? What happens when the call it?
@Flintlock1776
@Flintlock1776 8 ай бұрын
No pilot ever wants to be given a number to call because it usually means that the pilot has f'ed something up. Generally it's a tower or tower supervisor.
@MrJONES925
@MrJONES925 8 ай бұрын
you call the number , controllers tell you to never do that again and that’s that . If you don’t call then they get pissed and try to file something with the FAA . In this case other than being unprofessional and swearing on the freq the pilots didn’t do anything wrong IMO. The remark about controller performance was a private opinion and not intended to be transmitted, he just accidentally keyed the mic .
@TangoDelta8111
@TangoDelta8111 10 ай бұрын
Non pilot here. How does one ‘hot mike’? Does the pilot forget to release the mike button, or what happens?
@SpidaMez
@SpidaMez 10 ай бұрын
that is exactly it
@derrynmcmaster
@derrynmcmaster 10 ай бұрын
Sometimes the button just gets stuck - I’ve had it a few times, particularly older aircraft that have gunked up a bit with thumb sweat. A couple of taps usually frees it up instantly. Usually you can hear it, as the side tone sounds different to intercom chat, and you hear that change when you release. But if you’re not paying attention… well, yeah 😂 The other clue is that you haven’t heard anybody on the radio for a while (you can hear incoming transmissions when you’re transmitting)
@rtbrtb_dutchy4183
@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 10 ай бұрын
@@SpidaMez not exactly it. Nobody forgets to release the transmit button. 😂. This is a stuck mic.
@SpidaMez
@SpidaMez 10 ай бұрын
@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 i have done that before
@Pooch747
@Pooch747 10 ай бұрын
I fly the 757/ 767 and there is a two-way switch on the yoke that lets you speak to your Capt/ FO or ATC. If you squeeze the top of the switch, you're transmitting to ATC. If you squeeze the bottom of the switch, you're transmitting on the intercom in the cockpit. Any pilot who tells you that he/ she never accidentally pulled the switch the wrong way and accidentally spoke to ATC instead of intercoms is either very lucky or a liar! 😄
@andyowens5494
@andyowens5494 8 ай бұрын
Not exactly a sterile cockpit. Focus on the job, and only the job. There is NO place for that since, ooo, the early '80s.
@briankrian3834
@briankrian3834 6 ай бұрын
I wonder how much of an attitude adjustment he got.
@johnnapier9756
@johnnapier9756 10 ай бұрын
Wittle atc got his wittle feelings hurt.
@Flight_Follower
@Flight_Follower 10 ай бұрын
😁😁
@whiskeyd7
@whiskeyd7 9 ай бұрын
The funniest hot mike incident was right after takeoff clearance her mike was hot. She kept talking to “baby” during the entire takeoff roll and after airborne . Found out later “baby”:was her dog who always flew with her.
@evanfussell9821
@evanfussell9821 5 ай бұрын
You can’t fine someone for giving there opinion
@zaizhouyang8461
@zaizhouyang8461 8 ай бұрын
Ah ...I think it's a minor mistake , call the tower ? Is that necessary?
@ryzlot
@ryzlot 8 ай бұрын
If you are transmitting there in NO way to call them jr
@tsptrevor
@tsptrevor 9 ай бұрын
Maybe it's a valid observation? I've never operated into IAD or DCA, but mayve the controllers there ARE trash?
@mizzyroro
@mizzyroro 10 ай бұрын
And below 10000ft when he was supposed to be sterile cockpit. 🙄
@Flight_Follower
@Flight_Follower 10 ай бұрын
True
@MattyClivingthedream
@MattyClivingthedream 10 ай бұрын
Despite the unprofessional cockpit banter, the controller here is the one that needs a talking too. Who makes a crew take down a phone number on final approach? Very unprofessional, petty and all because he got offended.
@Flight_Follower
@Flight_Follower 10 ай бұрын
Thats true actually
@cmsimo999
@cmsimo999 10 ай бұрын
💯 pilot should’ve refused until he was on the ground maybe?
@seriouscat2231
@seriouscat2231 8 ай бұрын
The ATC always says "when you're ready". And it was not "all because he got offended". He most probably didn't get offended. But the pilot broke serious regulations by what he did.
@conquerordie230
@conquerordie230 10 ай бұрын
I’m with the pilots on this one, ATC are trash these days.
@ca_ged
@ca_ged 5 ай бұрын
That phone call was likely just a continuation of a pissing contest. No FARs violated
@varowan1
@varowan1 8 ай бұрын
American eagle is skywest.
@hhout9242
@hhout9242 10 ай бұрын
As an airline pilot, I couldnt even watch the end of this video, made me feel real bad inside.
@Flight_Follower
@Flight_Follower 10 ай бұрын
I felt the same sir 🥲
@FrigginCatsBruh
@FrigginCatsBruh 10 ай бұрын
You're not special
@hhout9242
@hhout9242 10 ай бұрын
I mother couldnt have been wrong.@@FrigginCatsBruh
@marryson123
@marryson123 10 ай бұрын
LMFAO maybe his co-pilot intentionally holds the mic button for him LOL.
@Flight_Follower
@Flight_Follower 10 ай бұрын
Hahaha 😂
@FSXAviation1
@FSXAviation1 10 ай бұрын
Each push to talk button transmits only the microphone that is connected to it, and not the whole cockpit. If this was the case, we would also hear a response from the other pilot.
@marryson123
@marryson123 10 ай бұрын
@@FSXAviation1 errr…. Have you flown a real airplane? The other pilot usually don’t talk when his partner is working the radio.
@FSXAviation1
@FSXAviation1 10 ай бұрын
@@marryson123 This video shows a private conversation in the flight deck between the two pilots. Their microphone is accidently keyed in. You can't call that "working the radio". If that was an actual transmission to ATC, then yes, you would be correct.
@debbie4503
@debbie4503 7 ай бұрын
Question who is the person they have to call when they get the phone number?
@DrewBlanton1959
@DrewBlanton1959 16 күн бұрын
The ATC supervisor.
@logicalblackman8228
@logicalblackman8228 Ай бұрын
What violation did the pilot commit?
@GlennDavey
@GlennDavey 6 күн бұрын
Improper use of the radio, taking up radio airspace and blocking other important transmissions that needed to be made on that frequency.
@clinteranovic8075
@clinteranovic8075 9 ай бұрын
The communication here is very poor indistinct and slipshod. Without the subtitles I would hardly have picked up half of what was being said.
@NithinJune
@NithinJune 4 ай бұрын
that would be so embarrassing 😭😭😭
@johndonovan7018
@johndonovan7018 3 ай бұрын
0 fucks were given by that pilot that day.
@wilthomas
@wilthomas 4 ай бұрын
is it a deviation to speak on a hot mic
@intheshell35ify
@intheshell35ify 5 ай бұрын
So sensitive. I thought these people are supposed to have thick skin.
@garyvale8347
@garyvale8347 7 ай бұрын
so what's the big deal , if ATC gives a pilot a phone number to call?......thanks
@manfredstrappen7491
@manfredstrappen7491 3 ай бұрын
Sterile cockpit? I think not.
@miguelr1784
@miguelr1784 6 ай бұрын
The pilot was giving his opinion. There are really bad ATCs out there as well, i wouldn't call that phone number at all. Whats the reason to call??
@GlennDavey
@GlennDavey 6 күн бұрын
The opinion wasn't the issue, although it was unprofessional, it was improper use of the radio, even if it was by accident, staying on frequency and blocking other important transmissions. A phone number is given to call when a conversation needs to be had that doesn't belong on radio. Usually it's just "don't do that again." If they don't call then a report may be filed with the FAA.
@onthefive5615
@onthefive5615 3 ай бұрын
Hope he was fired. He doesn't have enuf sense to fly passengers.
@michaelhoffmann2891
@michaelhoffmann2891 9 ай бұрын
Really wish there was always a Paul Harvery style "the rest of the story". What happened to that dolt? Not like ATC can do much, but if, like so many AE was intended as a stepping stone to the "real" airline and it was reported to his supervisors...
@Capecodham
@Capecodham 8 ай бұрын
AE?
@michaelhoffmann2891
@michaelhoffmann2891 8 ай бұрын
@@Capecodham American Eagle. Sorry, ya get carried away with acronyms.
@joez.2794
@joez.2794 8 ай бұрын
I mean, that's valuable feedback for ATC, if they can just get over themselves...?
@briand7946
@briand7946 7 ай бұрын
Is it a pilot deviation or something you can get in trouble for hot micing? I’m not aware of any rule about that. Between that and the fact that you are not actually obliged to call the tower I’m thinking there would be no recourse if he didn’t call the number?
@paulcatterson6147
@paulcatterson6147 8 ай бұрын
I'm thinking that pilot doesn't know he definition of "literally".
@mrthingy9072
@mrthingy9072 7 ай бұрын
I didn't hear the controller make a single mistake. What the heck is wrong with that pilot?
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