"So I can't fly anymore?". Solo pilot entered active runway. Real ATC Audio

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[@Mark.Playground]

This controller was amazing. He tried to calm her down and explained what the problem was and made sure she understand it. Props to him!

[@AV4Life]

Couldn’t agree more

[@annoyingbstard9407]

And I’m sure he would have been exactly the same if it was a man.

[@wannabetrucker7475]

​@@annoyingbstard9407 men are more annoying (bast*rds?) so probably not.

[@LieseFury]

​@@annoyingbstard9407username checks out

[@fkcoolers2669]

@@annoyingbstard9407 ratio

[@aniwack]

This is a true professional in the tower.

[@chocolatecoveredgummybears]

90% of atc people are not however

[@chocolatecoveredgummybears]

@@GWN_Garage lol

[@marklupus]

If I was her instructor, hopefully monitoring the frequency, I would have canceled today's activity and had her return to the ramp. Having the thoughts of being in trouble for the deviation must have been in the forethought of her mind and in my opinion, too much of a distraction.

[@rapinncapin123]

Yep

[@kaasmeester5903]

As a student pilot I'd have to agree... The thought of "I done messed up, made someone go around, what will the tower and the instructor say when I get back?" is not going to make for a focused solo flight. On my first XC solo, I took off with the transponder in STBY mode; I was naturally a little nervous and missed it while doing the checklist. ATC gave a friendly reminder to please turn it on immediately. But yeah, that did stay in my head for a little while during the flight. I'll stop short of joining those saying she shouldn't be out solo in the first place though. Not clear what exactly happened. It could be a mistake not realizing the nose of the plane was sticking out over the hold short line; a mistake she's likely not to make again after this!.

[@pslny]

I suspect she was 50 to 100 miles away from home. I doubt she was familiar with this airport. Hopefully she learned her lesson.

[@davidkelly7831]

Agreed. It's not a time for her to go flying after that, she needs to relax and reflect and get some more training before going out again

[@user-mp9rd4hg8b]

Agreed. She was already too flustered and task saturated to copy down a phone number. :-)

[@gcorriveau6864]

That's a "Gold Medal" controller right there. As for the student - We are all going to make mistakes. It is essential that we learn to immediately put them behind us and get our minds back on the flying at hand and not let distraction cause further errors. It seems she did an admirable job of doing this (seeing as the video did not continue).

[@SenorCrazylegs]

Admirable?! 😂

[@rudiklein]

It's just a little more important to fully stop at a stop sign when you're in an airplane than it would be in a car on the road 😂

[@titusrider7948]

Very cool and calm controller. That goes a long way to prevent the pilot from becoming unnerved 👍

[@APR1037]

If I were a pilot, that’s the kind of controller I would hope to communicate with.

[@chawkinz]

1978 long (300 NM) solo XC I taxied on to taxiway at GSO w/out a clearance. I thought I was still on the ramp. Ground called and informed me of my position, I requested taxi to runway, and that was that. 17,000 hours and 40 years later, no other deviations.

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

I did my long XC to GSO as well. From ILG. This was 1993. And I’m at 16K hours. I seem to follow you. 🤣 don’t tell me you fly corporate jets as well? 👀

[@chawkinz]

@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 No. I flew regional 1989-2003 in CLT then instructed for JAL and ANA in California, retired 2018 from Lufthansa Training Center in AZ.

[@chawkinz]

@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 No. Flew regional CLT 1989-2003. Instructed JAL and ANA California, retired 2018 Lufthansa Training Center GYR (AZ). Also, various 141, 135.

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

@@chawkinz oh, so you have been involved in training your whole career? That’s nice. I always loved training guys. I still do it with my current company.

[@chawkinz]

@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 Except 10K hours Part 121, about 2K 135/91 charters. 5K JCAB/EASA/FAA.

[@FlightSimFails]

Okay, I turn now. Good luck everybody else!

[@rapinncapin123]

😂

[@Jump-2-the-moon]

Oh god this reference 🤣🤣😂

[@citationbob]

FAMILY GUY!!!!!!!

[@rapinncapin123]

@@citationbob yes

[@pegballou9629]

Language barriers with student pilots is a hard thing with so many students coming to the US to learn. Patience like this is so very helpful!

[@benwilcox1484]

If only there was a law requiring English proficiency…

[@salsanacho]

She needs a couple more lessons...

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

Nah. She will be fine. Everybody makes mistakes. She will never roll un to a runway again.

[@jasonkimball7617]

​@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 she didn't just roll onto the runway, she didnt have the competence to do a 180. She wasn't ready and needed more lessons.

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

@@jasonkimball7617 students are usually not taught to do a 180. That’s just silly to think she needs more lessons because of that. She probably did a run up and forgot to set the parking brake. She isn’t the first and she won’t be the last.

[@andrzejostrowski5579]

I always keep my feet on the breaks during run up. This is how they thought me in my flight school. She’s going to be fine, it was just a silly mistake.

[@Towert7]

In the spirit of Family Guy: "How much clearance I need to take off? None? I take off now! Good luck everybody else!"

[@EstorilEm]

This isn’t “just” a language barrier thing… she’s a student pilot SOLO?! She should have at least 20hr with an instructor most likely. Holding short is like step one of your first left seat flight ever. It’s almost like she had 2hr of instruction and got shoved into a plane against her will. Her SA was absolutely terrible, or there was a major language barrier. One or the other (or both) but you certainly can’t dismiss both. I will say, comms are really intimidating at that phase so I totally get that part, but if I messed up a “hold short” - I’d be actively resolving the situation ASAP and probably freaking out to clear the runway. Then again, you’ve also gotta be listening to landing aircraft - we’d still be at the ramp and my instructor would have me trying to build a picture of what’s happening in the air already. When approaching an active with ATIS after listening to ground for a few minutes, you should know everyone coming in and how far out they are - with that in mind, just taxiing over the bars onto an active is kinda indefensible.

[@ItsCarlnotCarla]

Again with people flying who does not have a level 4 understanding of the english language

[@kennethjohnson4280]

How much signal I need to cut across eight lane? None? I turn now. Good luck, everybody else!

[@talals7029]

I always stop at least 10 feet from hold short bars.

[@garys5175]

15 even

[@JustMe-fo4ev]

@@garys5175 no

[@DaddyBeanDaddyBean]

With a different controller, could there also be a possible deviation for zero readback when given the instruction to taxi down the runway and exit via C? I've seen clips of controllers being extremely picky about the readback being perfect.

[@UncleKennysPlace]

Only some readbacks are mandated.

[@rickvia8435]

What a guy...

[@billsheehy1]

Good old MYF I got my Private there in 1969. Great memories.

[@sublimeade]

If this doesnt keep happening San Diego wont have airport anymore

[@shortafewbolts]

The nice the controller it is.

[@JustMe-fo4ev]

lol so many people raced to their keyboards to be racist over this one.

[@garys5175]

no

[@JustMe-fo4ev]

@@garys5175 guess reading isn't your strongsuit then, bud. run along now.

[@tolwyn_doom]

How much turn signal do I need?

[@chocolatecoveredgummybears]

LOL

[@mohamedabdullah5714]

Super controller

[@cricri593]

i dont understand what wrong say turn left use runway and exit C so ??

[@codingvio7383]

The pilot was likely asked to hold short of the runway by the marking that spans across the taxiway. If you are not cleared onto the runway, it is forbidden to cross these markings. And when you are holding short, you have to make sure the entire plane is behind it. She like was passed it a little and that counts as being on the runway, resulting in the go around of the other pilot attempting to land.

[@user-mp9rd4hg8b]

Seems to be a language barrier at the very least. Hopefully she gets all of her "bugs" worked out before she hurts herself, or someone else. Good job to the controller for showing patience.

[@LieseFury]

racist pos. she speaks english.

[@hoopslaa5235]

Family and instructor push to female let alone second languages Learner Jesus Christ. 🤦‍♂🤦‍♂🤦‍♂

[@JustMe-fo4ev]

@@hoopslaa5235 Was that even English? Maybe you shouldn't comment.

[@hoopslaa5235]

@@JustMe-fo4ev over your head apparently! Must suck to be party of the retahhded masses. Sad to be you!

[@donwilson4618]

Planes in the air are 5x5. Planes on ground are 5x1. Terrible radio interference on ground.

[@sanantonio855]

that's an amateur recording it's crystal clear in the tower

[@Solo6R]

Now I'm curious. When you've been givin "The Number" then that's a pretty big deal right? Aren't you supposed to get on the phone, get told you're done for, and that be that? She avoided the whole call with more ignorance to the situation, and was given a free pass back to the active? What am I missing here?

[@wb1065]

No. It’s just a conversation with the controller that hopefully can be resolved without any more hassle. But if you really screwed up it means they’ll notify the FAA and it’ll be reviewed for possible license suspension. But the controller doesn’t have any power over whether or not you can fly.

[@codingvio7383]

@@wb1065 Don't you need takeoff clearance from the controller? Surely the controller has say in that.

[@pilotmatt293]

We’ve gotta crack down on the “English proficient” endorsement

[@Republic3D]

If the pilot was a dude, ATC would be a lot more stern.

[@byronbailey9229]

Nice controlling - not like in Australia

[@jhomer145]

Sounded like a case of FWA

[@vannguyen2825]

What happen when ATC messed Up?

[@danielmosey6203]

Clearly nothing. In the US it’s almost a given on a weekly basis.

[@tjwarp576]

I have been watching a lot of these pilot deviation videos. Seems to be a pattern lately with the type of pilot (and no, I don't mean female), I will just leave it at that.

[@Raiders33]

ESL 😉

[@qwert0]

Say it with your chest, pussy. Racists used to have balls. Did DEI take your manhood too? lmao

[@SenorCrazylegs]

Female pilots make up a few percent of my airline's pilot cadre, and 90% of those under performance review. Not many want to be pilots and we hire unsuitable ones for diversity purposes to appease ideologues who can't themselves fly. So if you're noticing that they're bad at flight school, you'd be right. Some are good. Most are poor.

[@rickscott4911]

Been seeing a fair few arrogant older men featuring in them - is that what you mean?

[@pinverarity]

⁠@@rickscott4911 Yeah, the testosterone poisoning incidents always seem to involve a “certain type” of pilot too. Odd how that never seems to rankle as much.

[@alexanderdavidson7837]

Great controller

[@TinLeadHammer]

Please, use larger font size. Yours is unreadable on a phone.

[@UncleKennysPlace]

Get a larger phone, as all of us old people do.

[@TinLeadHammer]

@@UncleKennysPlace 6.5 inches is small? Anything larger will be a tablet.

[@Benis650]

I'm not sure. The ATC sounds very professional and kind, but I'm not certain if she should continue the flight. It seems like this pilot's physical and mental state is not prepared for the potentially high-risk flight ahead.

[@SenorCrazylegs]

I suspect her 'physical and mental state' are permanently like this, and she shouldn't be flying aircraft.

[@JustMe-fo4ev]

You're very weird for reaching this conclusion

[@markcardwell]

Yeah, by all means let’s her back up in the air!

[@wyattroeder3228]

😂

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

We have no idea from this how her flying skills are.

[@DrLumpy]

@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 We're teenage KZbinrs. How dare you suggest we don't know something.

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

@@DrLumpy LOL. I always forget that most of you guys are teenagers indeed.

[@cadthunkin]

"I can't fly anymore?" Controller: Hmm, now we have to deal with you driving. Ok, let's get you back in the air right away! lol

[@diegoencarnacion]

Im sorry but if there’s a flight anyone is careful and making sure they don’t mess up.. its their first solo. I don’t understand how people can let stuff like that happen and not only that… but not know until like 5 minutes later. Everyone makes mistakes I understand that, but in this specific situation it’s just wild.

[@wlewis8336]

I wouldn't let her fly without an instructor onboard.. period

[@freepilot7732]

The controller does not have that authority.

[@wlewis8336]

@@freepilot7732 obviously not.. but the FAA does

[@freepilot7732]

@@wlewis8336 yes but I was going by the literal words that were typed.

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

@@wlewis8336why? You know her flying skills from this? I know people with thousands of hours, who have never flown into an airport with a control tower and the first day they try, they would be nervous like her. People make mistakes.

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

@@freepilot7732it was a mistake. New pilots make mistakes. They learn from their mistakes.

[@ScuuBdoo]

How her instructor thought she was safe to be sent flying on her own is mind boggling. Lots of comments here by people saying "its just a mistake". WHAT! No comprehension of basic safety and clearly incapable of manoeuvring the aircraft on the ground let alone in the air. Couldn't even do a 180? When I heard "so I cant fly anymore" compounded her lack of knowledge and immaturity. Back to the classroom young lady.

[@SenorCrazylegs]

Well I'm glad someone said it. I find this fawning over female pilots on the internet absolutely ridiculous. She sounds like a retard who shouldn't be anywhere near an aircraft.

[@sharontorgerson2556]

Thank you for your comment! Sometimes being in touch with reality is more important than "being nice". Good grief. "Being nice" to her in her ignorance and incompetence could easily result in her death or someone else's in a few months. Recently had a neighbor whose dog was attacked by another neighbor's pitbull. The bitten dog's owner refuses to report the attack out of a desire to be nice to the pitbull's owner, since they were just getting acquainted with them and didn't want them to feel bad. There IS an appropriate time and place to manifest survival instinct/skills.

[@kevinjackson9526]

Yet another person that should never be a pilot.

[@secondrule]

LOL...relax, she's learning. As if someone gets a tix or fender bender in a car, they can never drive again lol

[@captainchaos3667]

Yes. Only people who never make mistakes, like you, should be allowed to be pilots.

[@telescope497]

Soon to be a Captain of a red chinese airline.

[@JustMe-fo4ev]

Nah.

[@bobl703]

She sounds drunk.

[@rickyism1576]

English def is not her native language.

[@JustMe-fo4ev]

Nah.

[@Migglesworth]

Nope. Don't care if it offends anybody. PROFICIENCY in English is the MINIMUM requirement.

[@johnthompson5741]

ICAO level 4 is what’s required in aviation. She seems to have understood and communicated everything here with no issues in terms of a language barrier, just aviation knowledge is what she didn’t know

[@ahgflyguy]

@@johnthompson5741aviation knowledge is really important, too. Rolling a stop sign in an airplane is kinda a big deal.

[@Tony36847]

My take from listening to the exchange: I can't imagine this "pilot" ever being able to process all the information a pilot needs to operate safely without an instructor. She seems completely oblivious to basic safety procedures and will probably kill someone if allowed to continue

[@DrLumpy]

@@Tony36847 Your "take"...that's hilarious. It's based on a couple dozen words that were barely readable due to the radio reception problem. 75% of her comms were not readable. You do an amazing job of assessing people's psychological state based on an incredibly tiny bit of non-information, including your premonition "Will probably kill someone". It's really amazing. I'd like to hear your diagnosis and prognosis when you're allowed to hear more than just a few words. You could have a great career with CNN, analyzing political debates.

[@Migglesworth]

@@johnthompson5741 Nope. She's taking too long to translate in her head.

[@chuckfinley4757]

Sounds like Captain We Too Low’s wife.

[@GFOER123]

Probably Sum Ting Wong's wife in this case.

[@codingvio7383]

@@GFOER123 Hoo Lee Fuk also mentioned

[@smaze1782]

Whoever the CFI was who signed this woman off needs to be retrained and right quick. How can you be this unaware of your surroundings?!

[@WAVEGURU]

I think she shouldn't fly anymore. Her instructor shouldn't instruct any more either.😡😡😡😡

[@chuckfinley4757]

Sounds Asian.

[@msilver4888]

they drive the same

[@LieseFury]

gfys

[@msilver4888]

@@LieseFury wow did it take you all day to think of that

[@LieseFury]

@@msilver4888 i could ask you the same for your shitty lazy racist joke

[@msilver4888]

@@LieseFury relax I know your feelings are so hurt but dont worry you will realize it's true

[@JustMe-fo4ev]

@@msilver4888 lol you're trying so hard to be edgy online... weird

[@jmldreamer]

I bet she never uses her blinkers when she’s driving !

[@StanfordJohnsey]

Future airline captain. Ain't DEI great!

[@FlightX101]

Thats now how DEI works lol. The instrument and ATP exams are brutal and dont care what race you are if you dont pass 😂

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

DEI is a dog whistle. NASA used diversity for their Space Shuttle astronauts…..wait for it………in the early 1980s. Do you think those were less qualified? Come on man.

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

You don’t understand how DEI works. Don’t regurgitate. NASA used DEI for their space shuttle program in the early 1980s. Everybody was fully qualified. That’s still the case today.

[@LieseFury]

​@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183but the angry man on the tv said to be angry!

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

@@LieseFury right. 🤣🤣. I said something similar, but somehow my response got taken down. This guy probably could get the job he wanted and now blames DEI instead of taking responsibility.

[@waldoinaz]

When she said, "...I can't fly anymore?" He should have responded, "No ma'am you can't. I'm confident a long and enjoyable career in the fast food industry awaits you."

[@arryaxx263]

What, so she could be your boss?

[@waldoinaz]

@@arryaxx263 No, but I am looking for someone to join the cleanup crew for my construction company. I doubt either of you are qualified though.

[@SenorCrazylegs]

I'm sure United would hire her. She is female and non-white after all.

[@jenniferknight2010]

She made a mistake and the ATC was awesome. As opposed to Waldo who will always and forever be a horse's ass.

[@waldoinaz]

@@jenniferknight2010 Oh cupcake…did your precious “feels” get hurt?

[@countryfucius]

I'm not in the area but I'm uncomfortable flying right now knowing that she may be in the sky somewhere. Also, that radio needs to be fixed.

[@sdaniels7114]

Not if the mic was 5 inches from her mouth. If that's the case it was working as intended.

[@countryfucius]

@@sdaniels7114 Sure, the static is definitely based on mouth proximity.

[@kaasmeester5903]

Tower didn't seem to have a problem reading her on the radio. It might just be crappy reception at wherever the aerial is that picks up radio traffic for RealATC.

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

You don’t know her piloting skills from this.

[@countryfucius]

@@kaasmeester5903 0:53

[@mariospanu159]

Melania Trump going to solo

[@deetee5052]

Asian woman flying... wow this is scary.

[@6tuf85dyfu]

Wow... this is racist.

[@2806vick]

wtf dude. No need to be racist

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

Your racism is showing.

[@deetee5052]

@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 lol facts Trump racism... sorry u got ur feelings hurt?

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

@@deetee5052 my feelings aren’t hurt. But you look bad and uneducated.