"So I can't fly anymore?". Solo pilot entered active runway. Real ATC Audio

[@FerPilot]

This controller was amazing. He tried to calm her down and explained what the problem was and made sure she understand it. Props to him!

[@AV4Life]

Couldn’t agree more

[@annoyingbstard9407]

And I’m sure he would have been exactly the same if it was a man.

[@wannabetrucker7475]

​@@annoyingbstard9407 men are more annoying (bast*rds?) so probably not.

[@LieseFury]

​@@annoyingbstard9407username checks out

[@fkcoolers2669]

@@annoyingbstard9407 ratio

[@aniwack]

This is a true professional in the tower.

[@Digitalgems9000]

90% of atc people are not however

[@Digitalgems9000]

@@GWN90 lol

[@icebox829]

@@Digitalgems9000lmao sorry people get their feelings hurt. Most people got too much to deal with to have patience for people like this. Her instructor failed her completely. ATC or other pilots are the ones to pick up the pieces. She’s lucky that pilot caught it in time. Absolutely ridiculous.

[@marklupus]

If I was her instructor, hopefully monitoring the frequency, I would have canceled today's activity and had her return to the ramp. Having the thoughts of being in trouble for the deviation must have been in the forethought of her mind and in my opinion, too much of a distraction.

[@rapinncapin123]

Yep

[@kaasmeester5903]

As a student pilot I'd have to agree... The thought of "I done messed up, made someone go around, what will the tower and the instructor say when I get back?" is not going to make for a focused solo flight. On my first XC solo, I took off with the transponder in STBY mode; I was naturally a little nervous and missed it while doing the checklist. ATC gave a friendly reminder to please turn it on immediately. But yeah, that did stay in my head for a little while during the flight. I'll stop short of joining those saying she shouldn't be out solo in the first place though. Not clear what exactly happened. It could be a mistake not realizing the nose of the plane was sticking out over the hold short line; a mistake she's likely not to make again after this!.

[@pslny]

I suspect she was 50 to 100 miles away from home. I doubt she was familiar with this airport. Hopefully she learned her lesson.

[@davidkelly7831]

Agreed. It's not a time for her to go flying after that, she needs to relax and reflect and get some more training before going out again

[@0101-s7v]

Agreed. She was already too flustered and task saturated to copy down a phone number. :-)

[@gcorriveau6864]

That's a "Gold Medal" controller right there. As for the student - We are all going to make mistakes. It is essential that we learn to immediately put them behind us and get our minds back on the flying at hand and not let distraction cause further errors. It seems she did an admirable job of doing this (seeing as the video did not continue).

[@justindufresne2868]

@@SenorCrazylegsshe did a good job of putting the mistake behind her, although I’m not sure in the moment she understood the severity of her error.

[@guitarmasterf18]

WOW!!! What a nice and professional controller!!! He didnt talk down and belittle the pilot; instead he comforted and educated the pilot in her mistake. I trust that this is a mistake that the pilot will never make again.

[@ctn830]

The instructor should have been monitoring and told her to return. She was not ready. Controller deserves an award

[@Daniel.H.Garavaglia]

Controller does not deserve an award. He is doing his job. This is expected of ATC Controllers.

[@leomarsden7951]

@@Daniel.H.GaravagliaA lot of controllers would’ve reacted differently. This one handled it well especially since this is MYF.

[@jacobshaw808]

I agree with the OP that she didn’t need to fly after that. If nothing else, one shouldn’t be flying with a possible PD weighing on their mind. It’s normal for instructors to just monitor the first solo flight or maybe the 2nd or 3rd if they feel it’s necessary. After that, there’s nothing unusual about sending a student solo without supervision.

[@hxhdfjifzirstc894]

Deserves an award for helping a NON-PILOT get a plane in to the air? What are you even saying? We need controllers that will shut this isht down -- if you can't properly taxi, you're not going down my runway. Not on my watch, pal.

[@ahgflyguy]

@@hxhdfjifzirstc894I just fly hang gliders and have a few flights in sailplanes, so I’ve never done powered taxiing. But it seems REALLY easy to stop at the hold-short gate. An equivalent might be holding a hang glider prior to launch. The one time I’ve watched (actually I assisted) a pilot on a launch ramp who was unable to properly control the glider while standing there, I asked them to back off from the launch attempt. They declined to back off, and started to launch, and they were dead about ten seconds later due to launching while stalled and dropping a wingtip, then smashing into a rock face, head first. Being on a runway and not knowing you’re on the runway and not knowing that it is a problem is, to me, the sign of a state of consciousness that is incompatible with safe flying. Some people spend their whole lives in that state of consciousness, and those people should not be pilots.

[@titusrider7948]

Very cool and calm controller. That goes a long way to prevent the pilot from becoming unnerved 👍

[@hxhdfjifzirstc894]

This woman is the reason we need remote shut off buttons in every tower.

[@PhilippusCesena]

Great controller. Calm and relaxed he explained without accusing what happened from his point of view, without making the pilot panic. Bravo

[@brandonmcheyenehoward1077]

Ouch that could be an early confidence killer. But the controller was amazing. Made sure she understood and encouraged her back to try again. I sure remember making some early memorable bloopers during training. Once when out with the instructor, after clearing the pre take off checklist and reaching about 100ft my hatch flew open. What did I do, and what did my instructor say as he saw me move 😂 it was truly memorable. My hatches and harnesses were religiously checked 10 fecking times after that 😂 some people have a natural inbuilt sense, others have to learn by their mistakes. Fortunately this event had a happy ending

[@APR1037]

If I were a pilot, that’s the kind of controller I would hope to communicate with.

[@chawkinz]

1978 long (300 NM) solo XC I taxied on to taxiway at GSO w/out a clearance. I thought I was still on the ramp. Ground called and informed me of my position, I requested taxi to runway, and that was that. 17,000 hours and 40 years later, no other deviations.

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

I did my long XC to GSO as well. From ILG. This was 1993. And I’m at 16K hours. I seem to follow you. 🤣 don’t tell me you fly corporate jets as well? 👀

[@chawkinz]

@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 No. I flew regional 1989-2003 in CLT then instructed for JAL and ANA in California, retired 2018 from Lufthansa Training Center in AZ.

[@chawkinz]

@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 No. Flew regional CLT 1989-2003. Instructed JAL and ANA California, retired 2018 Lufthansa Training Center GYR (AZ). Also, various 141, 135.

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

@@chawkinz oh, so you have been involved in training your whole career? That’s nice. I always loved training guys. I still do it with my current company.

[@chawkinz]

@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 Except 10K hours Part 121, about 2K 135/91 charters. 5K JCAB/EASA/FAA.

[@RAVIOLIdS]

As someone who did atc course you’re supposed to maintain calmness and kindness on frequency. This controller is a perfect demonstration of an amazing atc who cares about his frequency

[@instant_mint]

That's awesome that it is included in the course! I would imagine it is an important safety factor.

[@lukehaunert9786]

We have some amazing controllers at Montgomery! So grateful for all they do!

[@aigtrader2984]

What an absolutely amazing controller in the tower. She did seem a little flustered so I would definitely want to give her five or 10 minutes to get her wits about her but that was handled perfectly.

[@frdml01]

At our aeroclub we have regular presentations and q&a sessions with controllers from the tower. They always explain that they are there to help us, and they like doing that. Obviously, serious incidents need to be formally processed too.

[@hxhdfjifzirstc894]

Yeah, formally processed, not sent out for a second takeoff run.

[@garrettpilot6490]

Hey! It’s me! I’m 215AF lol. MYF has great controllers.

[@d.b.1176]

I have a number for you to copy if you are ready…

[@rudiklein]

It's just a little more important to fully stop at a stop sign when you're in an airplane than it would be in a car on the road 😂

[@Milamberinx]

Remember that you don't know what you don't know. If she didn't know that the hold short lines are mandatory that wasn't necessarily her fault, and she definitely knows it now. Further the sign she should have stopped behind to didn't say "stop", it said "C 28L".

[@hxhdfjifzirstc894]

@@Milamberinx Explain to me how this woman should be allowed to take off, in an AIR PLANE. Go!

[@Milamberinx]

@@hxhdfjifzirstc894 she's learning. That's all. Pilots don't pop into the world fully formed and fully educated.

[@dark_memer42]

@@Milamberinx No they don't but they at least know basic ATC etiquette, ie. don't enter the runway until they clear you onto it etc. before flying solo. I blame the instructor at the end of the day.

[@FlightSimFails]

Okay, I turn now. Good luck everybody else!

[@rapinncapin123]

😂

[@Jump-2-the-moon]

Oh god this reference 🤣🤣😂

[@citationbob]

FAMILY GUY!!!!!!!

[@rapinncapin123]

@@citationbob yes

[@Rheilffordd]

Very professional and patient controller, absolute props to him for handling that in such a kind way

[@Chr15T]

Montgomery Field was where I learnt to fly. I was always impressed by the controllers there as well as SoCal in general. Most of them are extremely professional and excellent at their job.

[@cqnnqn]

KMYF ATC and all of San Diego's ATC are badass at there job. Props to this controller

[@pegballou9629]

Language barriers with student pilots is a hard thing with so many students coming to the US to learn. Patience like this is so very helpful!

[@benwilcox1484]

If only there was a law requiring English proficiency…

[@RAVIOLIdS]

To be a pilot you need English proficiency if you don’t idk how she got into aviation school in the first place

[@jacobshaw808]

Having worked extensively with flight students who didn’t speak native English (mostly SE Asian), I don’t think language comprehension played a significant role, if any. I don’t know the circumstances surrounding this, it was likely a very honest mistake. Given that she DID stop, albeit not in the correct place, it doesn’t sound like she misunderstood her clearance. It also sounds like she does understand the stopping bars. This would suggest she unintentionally crossed the hold short line. Maybe she simply had issues stopping (ie seat track wasn’t locked in position causing the seat to move back when she applied brakes). If I may stereotype based on her voice alone.. I’m willing to bet she is of shorter stature. That would likely make operating the brakes in many GA airplanes quite difficult. In any case, I hope she learns from this and doesn’t let it get her down too much.

[@EnderEclipz]

Wow amazing video. The graphics are really nice to help understand what is going on.

[@Chr15T]

The way the graphics look, she seems to have crossed the hold short bar with just the prop. So she may have been legally "on the runway", and I understand the tower wanted her to leave it - but I am surprised approaching traffic deemed that a reason to go around. I suspect the graphics is not precise and she actually taxied further, actually onto the (physical not just the legal) runway.

[@EstorilEm]

This isn’t “just” a language barrier thing… she’s a student pilot SOLO?! She should have at least 20hr with an instructor most likely. Holding short is like step one of your first left seat flight ever. It’s almost like she had 2hr of instruction and got shoved into a plane against her will. Her SA was absolutely terrible, or there was a major language barrier. One or the other (or both) but you certainly can’t dismiss both. I will say, comms are really intimidating at that phase so I totally get that part, but if I messed up a “hold short” - I’d be actively resolving the situation ASAP and probably freaking out to clear the runway. Then again, you’ve also gotta be listening to landing aircraft - we’d still be at the ramp and my instructor would have me trying to build a picture of what’s happening in the air already. When approaching an active with ATIS after listening to ground for a few minutes, you should know everyone coming in and how far out they are - with that in mind, just taxiing over the bars onto an active is kinda indefensible.

[@Towert7]

In the spirit of Family Guy: "How much clearance I need to take off? None? I take off now! Good luck everybody else!"

[@jacobshaw808]

That’s actually pretty funny. I don’t know the circumstances surrounding this, it was likely a very honest mistake. Given that she DID stop, albeit not in the correct place, it doesn’t sound like she misunderstood her clearance. It also sounds like she does understand the stopping bars. This would suggest she unintentionally crossed the hold short line. Maybe she simply had issues stopping (ie seat track wasn’t locked in position causing the seat to move back when she applied brakes). In any case, I hope she learns from this and doesn’t let it get her down too much.

[@hxhdfjifzirstc894]

That was my first thought -- pulling out from a side street and cutting me off, FOUR LANES OVER... all in one smooth move.

[@6yjjk]

As said by a Dutch guy once in Tenerife...

[@Kaimine08]

If it were me, I would be telling ground that I am clearly having a bad day and I need to taxi back to the ramp before I make my day even worse. That is a clear sign that she needs a few more lessons.

[@jacobshaw808]

Depends on WHY she crossed the bars. It could have been a very honest accident (let’s say maybe the seat track didn’t hold the seat in position when she applied brakes..) In any case, it’s not good to fly with a possible PD weighing heavy on your mind. Especially for a student..

[@hxhdfjifzirstc894]

@@jacobshaw808 Did you listen to the audio? Did it sound like she has a f******** clue how to fly a goddam airplane? The controller should have taxied her into the hangar and called the FBI.

[@BlueSky_fur]

@@hxhdfjifzirstc894what’s your issue exaclty? You surely never in your entire life made a single mistake right? Her going over the line doesn’t mean she has no clue about an airplane. Get off your high horse and touch some grass god damn.

[@user-bo6mo7mx8f]

That controller was awesome. I think if that was me I would have told the pilot to go back to talk to her instructor before letting her try again.

[@fhuber7507]

A learning experience for a recent solo... She's trainable.

[@JerryLaw]

there is no way my instructor would have let me out on my solo if I have no idea what the marking on the ground mean and where I need to stop when i been told to hold short of the runway. it is something we learn before we take to the sky.

[@salsanacho]

She needs a couple more lessons...

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

Nah. She will be fine. Everybody makes mistakes. She will never roll un to a runway again.

[@jasonkimball7617]

​@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 she didn't just roll onto the runway, she didnt have the competence to do a 180. She wasn't ready and needed more lessons.

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

@@jasonkimball7617 students are usually not taught to do a 180. That’s just silly to think she needs more lessons because of that. She probably did a run up and forgot to set the parking brake. She isn’t the first and she won’t be the last.

[@andrzejostrowski5579]

I always keep my feet on the breaks during run up. This is how they thought me in my flight school. She’s going to be fine, it was just a silly mistake.

[@RAVIOLIdS]

@@jasonkimball7617in aviation specifically on commercial aviation you can’t do a 180… she is studying the ATPL i believe. The point is that on a commercial plane you can’t do a 180 on a taxi way you need directions to do a 180 basically

[@bruno84]

I'm not sure she should have flown after that. She was clearly disturbed so a pause and conversation off the frequency and the aircraft should have happened before she went for another try.

[@hxhdfjifzirstc894]

I'm SURE that she SHOULD NOT have been allowed to take off. Not on my runway, pal. Not gonna happen.

[@sub_miat]

N419LK, please turn 180 and return N419LK: ☢️☢️📻📡📻📡🔥✈️

[@csebal]

Im thinking in this scenario she had the right idea to taxi back, calm her nerves, call tower, square things away and then try again. She waa clearly upset, so not mentally in the ideal condition to make correct decisions. IMSAFE.. she definitely was pegged out on the S there.

[@briancooney9952]

Not sure what i'd do here if i was the controller. As a student, going out on a solo flight with a deviation and phone number, that is a big stresser. Not sure if the controller knew it was a student pilot solo. If i were the controller and knew that information, i think i would've let her go, then told her to call when she got back. I was in a similar situation on my first pilot job. I didn't do anything illegal, but the tower wanted me to do things differently than i was. I got back from a flight and they were like "Can you call the tower when you get a minute?" It was a friendly conversation, no pressure. It was a "Hey, instead of doing that, could you do this instead?" Best thing you can say on the phone with Tower is: "It won't happen again"

[@kellygreene6572]

Kudos to the controller...

[@billsheehy1]

Good old MYF I got my Private there in 1969. Great memories.

[@talals7029]

I always stop at least 10 feet from hold short bars.

[@garys5175]

15 even

[@JustMe-fo4ev]

@@garys5175 no

[@garys5175]

@@JustMe-fo4ev yes

[@Gil3490]

@@garys5175 20

[@lonestar4225]

awesome controller, pilot failed but was not aggressive

[@kennethjohnson4280]

How much signal I need to cut across eight lane? None? I turn now. Good luck, everybody else!

[@hxhdfjifzirstc894]

It's honestly unbelievable how many people are congratulating the controller for helping her to try again. TF is wrong with people.

[@us1fedvet]

Student pilot not ready for solo or other air work without instructor present.

[@pilotmatt293]

We’ve gotta crack down on the “English proficient” endorsement

[@hxhdfjifzirstc894]

Nonsense... she's an _undocumented pilot._ It's not a crime.

[@captainkttyhwk]

an applicant must "be able to read, speak and fully understand the English language." amongst other things...

[@rickvia8435]

What a guy...

[@topofthegreen]

Here flying career is over, mistakes like that get people killed.

[@TrevorDennis100]

Is that lady's poor audio normal? Considering she could throw a stone and hit there tower from where she was, her audio was amazingly scratchy and hard to understand.

[@instant_mint]

I have heard that when planes are on the ground they sound extra garbled, at least to the receiver that is recording this. But it seems like tower could hear what she was saying

[@Rusty_Nickle]

I'm thinking what goes on is the person recording all this isn't actually at the airport. They're in their house and they got an antenna set up to scan the frequencies and then they either just keep the recording or a lot of people keep the recording but they also publish it to a website so other people can listen into the radio traffic. It's kind of like when you download the police scanner traffic on your phone. Somebody physically has to have a scanner set up and then route it to the internet. Anyway and then when something interesting happens they make a video out of it for us.

[@TrevorDennis100]

@@Rusty_Nickle That's good call I bet. I never thought about where these recordings come from.

[@andyasdf2078]

"Do you understand the hold short bars of the runway?" In other words, "Do you understand English, and/or the basic rules of aviation?"

[@-.._.-_...-_.._-..__..._.-.-.-]

Again, the ATC need to mind his business.

[@cadthunkin]

"I can't fly anymore?" Controller: Hmm, now we have to deal with you driving. Ok, let's get you back in the air right away! lol

[@sublimeade]

If this doesnt keep happening San Diego wont have airport anymore

[@ChrisP.Bacon008]

Wait is that an Embry Riddle plane? Where is this?

[@kingslaphappy1533]

How can you operate with a radio like that? That in itself should be reason to ground the aircraft until repaired.

[@DaddyBeanDaddyBean]

With a different controller, could there also be a possible deviation for zero readback when given the instruction to taxi down the runway and exit via C? I've seen clips of controllers being extremely picky about the readback being perfect.

[@UncleKennysPlace]

Only some readbacks are mandated.

[@encryptor6710]

Im gonna need you to throw away your transmitter and get a new one, thanks!

[@starnumber12046]

Why is the student so inaudible at the beginning

[@hxhdfjifzirstc894]

Relative position of her radio to the person recording the audio.

[@tolwyn_doom]

How much turn signal do I need?

[@Digitalgems9000]

LOL

[@dtsh4451]

YES😂

[@FoxD13]

But he said Taxi via runway 28L and turn left taxiway C so whats the problem? She did exactly as she was told?! Anybody please clarify?

[@sakuyura2626]

Yes she did what she was told to do. She passed the hold short line at B thats why 780 excuted go-around saying traffic on the RWY.

[@FoxD13]

@@sakuyura2626 Ah thank you, that makes sense... Didn´t see she was crossing holding point B in the video.

[@The_Wiry_Woodchuck]

There is a common denominator with the pilots that keep screwing up, do we know what it is!?

[@shortafewbolts]

The nice the controller it is.

[@0101-s7v]

Seems to be a language barrier at the very least. Hopefully she gets all of her "bugs" worked out before she hurts herself, or someone else. Good job to the controller for showing patience.

[@LieseFury]

racist pos. she speaks english.

[@hoopslaa5235]

Family and instructor push to female let alone second languages Learner Jesus Christ. 🤦‍♂🤦‍♂🤦‍♂

[@JustMe-fo4ev]

@@hoopslaa5235 Was that even English? Maybe you shouldn't comment.

[@hoopslaa5235]

@@JustMe-fo4ev over your head apparently! Must suck to be party of the retahhded masses. Sad to be you!

[@tchevrier]

need to fix that radio

[@smokingspitfire1197]

Wow the amount of sexism and racism in these comments is absolutely obscene. Shame on you all. I remember being a young student pilot, things that are super obvious and second nature to me now were alien and mistakes happen. She needs to have a good debriefing with her instructor and a couple more flights to confirm she’s understood. That’s all. Maybe a brush up on English but I’m a native English speaker and the PTT can still act like a ‘forget all words’ button. I do suspect the reason for the harshness in these comments is simply because of her race and gender. We all started somewhere and we’ve all fucked up. Noone died, people learn.

[@hxhdfjifzirstc894]

Racism and sexism? Did you just assume its gender? TF are you even talking about.

[@bmwr9tracer668]

Who cares what you think

[@smokingspitfire1197]

@@hxhdfjifzirstc894 There are countless comments that specifically point out nothing more than her race or gender as why she made these mistakes, including sweeping remarks about women drivers and asian drivers too. All from an accent and a recording of a particularly embarassing single moment of her flying career. Now I’m sure you’re most hurt by whatever Fox has told you to be upset about this week, thats obvious from the ‘did you just assume its gender’ remark, but if you genuinely think noone is being both racist and sexist in the comments and agree with the sheer, vile nature of said comments, you’re as deluded as you are cruel.

[@ttfahd]

yes I understand,,,,,,,,,,But she crossed an active runway???????????????? park your plane

[@edwasterfield8478]

Does anybody speak English in the U.S.? This is terrifying people like this have a pilots license

[@ItsCarlnotCarla]

Again with people flying who does not have a level 4 understanding of the english language

[@gsp8489]

"I fly NOW. Good ruck errbody else!"

[@Pmansr]

DEI pilot in training

[@lki34442]

I wonder how JFK controller would have handled such situation

[@mohamedabdullah5714]

Super controller

[@donwilson4618]

Planes in the air are 5x5. Planes on ground are 5x1. Terrible radio interference on ground.

[@sanantonio855]

that's an amateur recording it's crystal clear in the tower

[@byronbailey9229]

Nice controlling - not like in Australia

[@Solo6R]

Now I'm curious. When you've been givin "The Number" then that's a pretty big deal right? Aren't you supposed to get on the phone, get told you're done for, and that be that? She avoided the whole call with more ignorance to the situation, and was given a free pass back to the active? What am I missing here?

[@wb1065]

No. It’s just a conversation with the controller that hopefully can be resolved without any more hassle. But if you really screwed up it means they’ll notify the FAA and it’ll be reviewed for possible license suspension. But the controller doesn’t have any power over whether or not you can fly.

[@codingvio7383]

@@wb1065 Don't you need takeoff clearance from the controller? Surely the controller has say in that.

[@laysdong]

He means generally. The controller can refuse to give you takeoff clearance but can't bar you from flying in general ​@@codingvio7383

[@elainebarnes7012]

Was there something wrong with her mic? Terrible interference.??

[@JustMe-fo4ev]

lol so many people raced to their keyboards to be racist over this one.

[@garys5175]

no

[@JustMe-fo4ev]

@@garys5175 guess reading isn't your strongsuit then, bud. run along now.

[@garys5175]

@@JustMe-fo4ev your keyboard is racist

[@JustMe-fo4ev]

@@garys5175 your brain is rotting

[@JustMe-fo4ev]

@@garys5175 You're this lonely, huh? Haha

[@mattc6018]

When certain drivers become certain pilots.

[@hxhdfjifzirstc894]

You said it, we were all thinking it. And everybody knows it's true.

[@tjwarp576]

I have been watching a lot of these pilot deviation videos. Seems to be a pattern lately with the type of pilot (and no, I don't mean female), I will just leave it at that.

[@Raiders33]

ESL 😉

[@qwert0]

Say it with your chest, pussy. Racists used to have balls. Did DEI take your manhood too? lmao

[@rickscott4911]

Been seeing a fair few arrogant older men featuring in them - is that what you mean?

[@pinverarity]

⁠@@rickscott4911 Yeah, the testosterone poisoning incidents always seem to involve a “certain type” of pilot too. Odd how that never seems to rankle as much.

[@tjwarp576]

@@rickscott4911 Good point, they have been a problem. But I was referring to pilots with an accent implying they are from India. I've watched three videos now where the controllers are giving them instructions and they just seem to have no clue what they're doing.

[@ScuuBdoo]

How her instructor thought she was safe to be sent flying on her own is mind boggling. Lots of comments here by people saying "its just a mistake". WHAT! No comprehension of basic safety and clearly incapable of manoeuvring the aircraft on the ground let alone in the air. Couldn't even do a 180? When I heard "so I cant fly anymore" compounded her lack of knowledge and immaturity. Back to the classroom young lady.

[@sharontorgerson2556]

Thank you for your comment! Sometimes being in touch with reality is more important than "being nice". Good grief. "Being nice" to her in her ignorance and incompetence could easily result in her death or someone else's in a few months. Recently had a neighbor whose dog was attacked by another neighbor's pitbull. The bitten dog's owner refuses to report the attack out of a desire to be nice to the pitbull's owner, since they were just getting acquainted with them and didn't want them to feel bad. There IS an appropriate time and place to manifest survival instinct/skills.

[@TinLeadHammer]

Please, use larger font size. Yours is unreadable on a phone.

[@UncleKennysPlace]

Get a larger phone, as all of us old people do.

[@TinLeadHammer]

@@UncleKennysPlace 6.5 inches is small? Anything larger will be a tablet.

[@littlebig3720]

@@TinLeadHammernah 6.5 inches is huge bro, way too big tbh…

[@Lawyer-Pilot]

Another try?! At what? Killing someone? Heck, no. She's a danger to herself and everyone around her.

[@Benis650]

I'm not sure. The ATC sounds very professional and kind, but I'm not certain if she should continue the flight. It seems like this pilot's physical and mental state is not prepared for the potentially high-risk flight ahead.

[@JustMe-fo4ev]

You're very weird for reaching this conclusion

[@smaze1782]

Whoever the CFI was who signed this woman off needs to be retrained and right quick. How can you be this unaware of your surroundings?!

[@diegoencarnacion]

Im sorry but if there’s a flight anyone is careful and making sure they don’t mess up.. its their first solo. I don’t understand how people can let stuff like that happen and not only that… but not know until like 5 minutes later. Everyone makes mistakes I understand that, but in this specific situation it’s just wild.

[@jhomer145]

Sounded like a case of FWA

[@alexanderdavidson7837]

Great controller

[@chuckfinley4757]

Sounds like Captain We Too Low’s wife.

[@GFOER123]

Probably Sum Ting Wong's wife in this case.

[@codingvio7383]

@@GFOER123 Hoo Lee Fuk also mentioned

[@Unknown-qi2zy]

Ladies and gentlemen, may I present our newest PSA DEI hire first officer!!

[@markcardwell]

Yeah, by all means let’s her back up in the air!

[@wyattroeder3228]

😂

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

We have no idea from this how her flying skills are.

[@DrLumpyDMus]

@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 We're teenage KZbinrs. How dare you suggest we don't know something.

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

@@DrLumpyDMus LOL. I always forget that most of you guys are teenagers indeed.

[@hxhdfjifzirstc894]

@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 Really? You watched this video and don't have any guesses on how good of a 'pilot' she is? You must be a Biden vote.

[@WAVEGURU]

I think she shouldn't fly anymore. Her instructor shouldn't instruct any more either.😡😡😡😡

[@hxhdfjifzirstc894]

BINGO... one last thing. The controller should not control anymore. Doofus let her go again.

[@kingslaphappy1533]

Her radio sounded terrible, barely audible.

[@amggaming3528]

It’s hard to pick up transmissions from planes on the ground.

[@Hokieredneck]

Yes yes mama you can't fly anymore, not today. You need 100 more hours with your instructor.

[@kevinjackson9526]

Yet another person that should never be a pilot.

[@secondrule]

LOL...relax, she's learning. As if someone gets a tix or fender bender in a car, they can never drive again lol

[@captainchaos3667]

Yes. Only people who never make mistakes, like you, should be allowed to be pilots.

[@littlebig3720]

@@secondruleexactly I always think it’s hilarious when a student pilot makes a mistake and half the comment section just jumps to the conclusion that they can never be a pilot. If ur new to anything you’ll make mistakes, idk why these people expect perfection from student pilots

[@hxhdfjifzirstc894]

Honestly, you have a VALID POINT. Some people should NEVER be a pilot. If you can't admit this basic fact, you also should never be a pilot.

[@hxhdfjifzirstc894]

@@littlebig3720 I'm curious if you're familiar with what the term _mentally 'ruh-tarded'_ means? I'll assume that you are. Do you think it's possible to recognize these people, based on how they act? I'll assume you would say yes. Do you think that mentally 'ruh-tarded' people should be allowed to fly airplanes? Please stop pretending that anyone can grow up to be whatever they want... or that anyone who signs up for flight school should be allowed in the air, solo... after a certain number of hours. I mean, it would be _wrong_ to tell her NO, right? That would be racism, or sexism, or something. At a certain point you must admit that she doesn't have a *ucking clue, and someone is going to die when she screws up AGAIN.

[@effkay3691]

I think they give out pilot licenses in America for fun. No doubt the “small” aviation lobby has something to do with this. So many pilots don’t understand basic basic procedures and protocol.

[@chuckfinley4757]

Sounds Asian.

[@kurules3072]

Not the first foreign pilot I’ve heard here have problems smh

[@marclobato9690]

I bet she's the one who pulls all the way up into an intersection in her car. And wonders why people get mad that she's in the way

[@wlewis8336]

I wouldn't let her fly without an instructor onboard.. period

[@freepilot7732]

The controller does not have that authority.

[@wlewis8336]

@@freepilot7732 obviously not.. but the FAA does

[@freepilot7732]

@@wlewis8336 yes but I was going by the literal words that were typed.

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

@@wlewis8336why? You know her flying skills from this? I know people with thousands of hours, who have never flown into an airport with a control tower and the first day they try, they would be nervous like her. People make mistakes.

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

@@freepilot7732it was a mistake. New pilots make mistakes. They learn from their mistakes.

[@bobl703]

She sounds drunk.

[@rickyism1576]

English def is not her native language.

[@JustMe-fo4ev]

Nah.

[@cricri593]

i dont understand what wrong say turn left use runway and exit C so ??

[@codingvio7383]

The pilot was likely asked to hold short of the runway by the marking that spans across the taxiway. If you are not cleared onto the runway, it is forbidden to cross these markings. And when you are holding short, you have to make sure the entire plane is behind it. She like was passed it a little and that counts as being on the runway, resulting in the go around of the other pilot attempting to land.

[@Kaimine08]

Pilot deviation due to a runway incursion. Because she passed the hold short line without specific clearance from Tower, other pilots took notice of this and called for a go around, effectively displacing traffic going to land. This is a major no no because pilots trying to land on a runway in which this woman has her plane effectively on the runway is cause for a potential plane crash. If tower wanted to push it and file a complaint against her, she'd be having a talk with the FAA...and the FAA don't play games. Considering she's most likely a student solo pilot (Or atleast rather incompetent), there's a very real chance she would have lost her student pilot license and the instructor that signed her off for solo would have been investigated too. Considering the tower decided to let it go as she was not immediately told to go back to the ramp, she better be baking them a hell of a cheesecake is all I'm saying.

[@vannguyen2825]

What happen when ATC messed Up?

[@danielmosey6203]

Clearly nothing. In the US it’s almost a given on a weekly basis.

[@Kaimine08]

Pilots can do the same thing. They can ask for a number, have a talk with the controller, and decide to file a complaint against them with the FAA. Most pilots don't do that though.

[@OneTequilaTwoTequila]

"We have women pilots. They're not very good, but we have them!" - Adam Corolla. 🤣