Worst Games Ever - Terminator Salvation

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Presenters: Peter Austin (@ThatPeterAustin) & Ben Potter (@Confused_Dude)
Video Editor: James Jenkins (@Jenx_137)
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[@thomaskinsey3424]

Missed opportunity for the editor to use the dualshock vibration to make the terminator theme song hits, dada dun dadun

[@MrBeardsley]

Grin had a streak of poorly received games towards the end (this, the Bionic Commando remake and Wanted: Weapons of Fate all flopped hard), which resulted in Square Enix backing out of a deal for Grin to make a Final Fantasy spinoff codenamed Fortress (the “unreleased masterpiece” referenced in the studio’s farewell note). The delayed payments they referenced were mostly in the form of promised bonuses that never materialized due to poor sales and reviews (the usual publisher BS also played a role), and after Fortress was cancelled they found themselves with no cash flow, no projects in the pipeline, and no publishers knocking on their door. Ultimately it’s another sad story of a promising studio having early successes before getting chewed up and spit out by the industry.

[@perm3227]

Favorite line out of this episode: "Get out of the sky! Those are for birds, not for you."

[@henduck6420]

I remember this game being enjoyable but then I remember I was also 10

[@Spacething7474]

10 year old you is still right!

[@MrBeardsley]

It’s a very “my first third-person shooter” kind of game, if I’d been like 12 instead of 27 when it came out I probably would’ve enjoyed it a lot more.

[@shawnfields2369]

​@@MrBeardsleyI was 15 when Salivation came out, and I STILL didn't care about it. I saw how bad it was. A 5/10. That's bad. And past experiences have taught me to stay FAR, FAR, FAR, FAR, away from anything like this. Especially movie tie-in games, and especially ones based on Terminator, unless they're light gun/arcade games based on either T2 or T4:Salivators. Not sure if the 3rd one has anything good about it at all...hopefully, one day they'll break the curse of bad movie tie-in console games, but for now just wait and see if that'll ever happen(probably not).

[@joelkort24]

Nice work Mr. Jenkins! You're editing work is the icing on top for these videos. Also, when Peter said "Do a barrel roll" I legit laughed hard enough to wake my spouse, so thanks for that.

[@thekingofoldskool2]

Grin had a real battle to make this game. WB Games mandated they only had a few months to develop it. They were in production of 'Wanted: Weapons of Fate' at the time. Thye took the basics from that game and stripped all the curving bullet gameplay gimmicks to turn around 'Terminator: Salvation: The Game' in quick time.

[@MrBeardsley]

Grin spread themselves pretty thin after the successes of the first two Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter games and Bionic Commando Rearmed. They opened additional studios in Gothenberg, Barcelona and Jakarta to handle the additional workload they started getting, but as soon as Bionic Commando 2009 flopped Capcom cancelled the Strider reboot they’d been working on and Sega cancelled a Rearmed-style Streets of Rage remake that had just started development. The death knell ultimately came when Square Enix cancelled a Final Fantasy spinoff Grin had been working on since 2008, the “unreleased masterpiece” they referred to in their farewell statement.

[@Gruntvc]

@MrBeardsley, I actually liked Grin's Bionic Commando games. Didn't know they wanted to make a Strider reboot too. Would've liked to see that one.

[@thekingofoldskool2]

@@MrBeardsley Indeed. Matt McMuscles will be coming then in a future episode of 'What Happuned?''.

[@AbsoluteTravisT]

There was in fact an Arnie terminator in Salvation, he shows up at the end but quickly has his face blown off because Arnie was still at the time very busy being the governor of California and so permitted them to CGI his face onto body-double Roland Kickinger.

[@ThisCharmingMan1984]

It’s also very handy that the Arnienator keeps a handy supply of mist around, for when he needs to cover up his nethers haha.

[@SweeploRoblo]

8:38 At this point Ben and Peter should just make a series where they finally watch and discuss all the amazing movies they've missed.13:24 I wonder why? He seemed so happy on the set while making the movie...😂

[@oddjob914]

“Miss Use did teach me at school” - Under rated joke

[@marcusnelson7026]

Christian Bale-d on providing his voice and likeness to this game.

[@savage751]

I think he has a stipulation in his contracts like Tom Cruise does about his likeness not being used in games

[@shawnfields2369]

​@@savage751Not even in any good games? Not that we're really missing out by him not appearing in any games. He's a good actor, but probably wouldn't be great in a game. Movie tie-in games are infamous and infamously bad. There's always exceptions, but I haven't seen or played any of the so called "good ones".

[@anxious2kcowboy]

Editor knocked it out of the park. Great job!

[@Alucard-A-La-Carte]

Terminator Resistance is 7/10 as an FPS released in the late 2010s, but as a Terminator game, it's a solid 9/10 because MY GOD, just look at this dreck! I will always remember "Salvation" as the movie Christian Bale had that freakout on, and the movie my friends and I forgot we watched the same night we watched it.

[@fromthegamethrone]

I laughed my ass off at 'the Hot'n'Sex Frience Fosh'

[@benjaminfoley919]

Well now you have to play wanted weapons of fate

[@Dustemikkel_Rev]

I watched the first Terminator movie when I was 15. I was always so amazed at the few scenes from the future, thinking "THIS is a movie I want to watch!" Years later Salvation was released and my brain screamed "NO! THAT'S NOT HOW IT SHOULD LOOK LIKE!" I didn't get my headcannon version of the real Terminator future before Terminator: Resistance, and yes, I'm very grateful. But did anyone really expect a good game based on Salvation? F*ck that movie.

[@MrBeardsley]

The arcade light gun Salvation game was boss, though like every light gun game you really need to play it on an original cabinet. I’m with you on the movie though, I thought the earlier films had established Skynet’s initial nuclear attack left the world in a state of more or less eternal night, meanwhile Salvations all sandy and sun-blasted like a Mad Max movie.

[@Gemmasis]

I was actually twelve when I watched the first Terminator film, and my mind was blown by the graphics (at the time!) and when I watched the second right afterwards, I just thought how amazing these films were… then years later the third one came out…😢 I’ve not bothered since and I’m glad I chose to bail when I did… milk a good film long enough and eventually they turn into shit! Example of this game, though obviously I haven’t seen this version of the movie, but I doubt it was any better than this to be honest!

[@Dustemikkel_Rev]

@@Gemmasis At least Terminator: Genisys made me laugh at how shit it was. I think that's the nicest thing I can say about the Terminator movies after 2. 3 was just amazingly bland.

[@Dustemikkel_Rev]

@@MrBeardsley Not to mention they tried to convince me that the dude who played Chekov in JJ. Abrahams Star Trek movies grew up to be Kyle Reese. No offence to the actor, but I just can't connect that guy to Michael Biehn.

[@Gemmasis]

@@Dustemikkel_Revmmm… I need a good laugh, might give the film a try! 😂

[@Gooner333333333]

8:14 "we are fighting technology", no pun intended

[@billybob182182]

This is the second job that has somehow become a TJ joke that I have a connection with. 😂😅

[@Ryan01224]

The I honestly have platinumed this game about 5/6 times the easiest game to complete on hard difficulty

[@MrBeardsley]

It’s also only about three hours long, or at least it was for me back when I played it.

[@MrBeardsley]

For a second I thought this was Terminator: Resistance (the Teyon-developed FPS from 2019) and was ready to defend it’s honor as a fun, solid B (maybe C) tier game made with obvious love for the source material. Then I thought you were talking about the Raw Thrills-published Terminator: Salvation light gun shooter, a game my best friend and I played extensively at various arcades during a big cross-country road trip in 2010, and was even more ready to defend its honor as an insanely fun throwback to classics like Time Crisis and Area 51. Then I remembered the Terminator: Salvation console game exists and made me very, very sad when I played it on the PS3, and now I’m ready to watch it make everyone else very sad too.

[@Banquet42]

I am sorry to hear that this dragged up bad memories. At least it's not as bad as having to rewatch some of the later films?

[@MrBeardsley]

@@Banquet42Not bad memories, I was just really disappointed. Of course, that’s typical considering I’ve been playing Terminator games for over 30 years and most have been mediocre to bad.

[@Dustemikkel_Rev]

Hats off to Teyon. They totally ducked up Rambo, but with Terminator: Resistance and Robocop: Rogue City they showed such a great understanding of what made these movies great in the first place. Terminator: Resistance was the best Terminator experience I've had since T2.

[@Gruntvc]

Loved Terminator Resistance and I did get to play the Terminator Salvation Arcade game years ago. Wish both that Terminator and Aliens Arcade game got console and pc ports. Never played the Aliens one, but saw a complete play through of it on KZbin and I liked it. Only good part about the Xbox 360/PS3 Terminator Salvation game is how easy it is to 100% achievements/trophies. Fun fact, the dev behind Terminator Salvation 360/PS3 also made the Bionic Commando reboot game and I think the Wanted game too.

[@Banquet42]

@@MrBeardsley There was a Terminator PC game where one of you played as Kyle Reese and one of you played as Arnie and you had to save/ kill Sarah conor respectively. Was dwesigned to be played over a LAN. I never played it but it sounded interesting and could probably be ported/ remade to/for modern consoles quite easily?

[@rodolfohernandez3303]

Skynet was controlling the controller

[@billfrantz1638]

There are 6 Terminator movies, Salvation is the forth. Sometimes I really worry about you guys.

[@Gruntvc]

Not gonna lie, got a copy of this turd to 100% the achievements for it. Just gotta do 1 complete play through on hard and it's an easy 1,000G or platinum trophy. Thank God Terminator Resistance exists. Hoping the new upcoming co op Terminator game is good too.

[@alexfletcher1019]

I'd let Skynet win if this was the only game to play in the world

[@shawnfields2369]

Sounds better than ACTUALLY playing the game, honestly...is there any reason to ever play this game? Like, unless it's your first game ever? Like you just started playing games the day before yesterday, and you're like, a baby who needed their diaper changed, or something? Or is it just a crappy game? Because it looks AND sounds horrible and boring. Why even make another Terminator movie game? Unless it's the arcade/light gun ones, don't bother. Or unless it's a game like MK 11, that had Annie Terminated guest star in it. I don't care about Terminator, honestly, I know movie tie-in games suck, big time, I just really love MK. I don't see why anyone would play this game. It's like if you put machines into a COD game. But worse.

[@williamjfrancefilm]

Controller literally going: DUN DUN DUN DUUUN DUUUUUUUUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN DUN DUN DUN DUUUN DUUUUUUUUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN DUN DUN DUN DUUUN DUUUUUUUUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN on repeat and sped up 10x

[@kenshig.8134]

They probably put jetpacks on terminators at some point, they slapped one on Robocop after all.. Then again they probably saw the results of that and changed their robominds.

[@ChrisKellyPlays]

I worked at Blockbuster when this was released. I think we had 5 different people buy it and come back in 3 hours later trying to return it. It was THAT short a game, and paid full retail price for it.

[@kermitthepog7063]

There was a young Arnie in this film too

[@LuminalSpoon]

Haha the Robot Wars bit was gold 😂

[@imillnotsick420]

Just beating a game on hard difficulty is still an easy platinum imo. You don't have to worry about any collectibles and you don't have to do a specific thing in a specific mission or go through the game/levels multiple times because there's missable trophies.

[@RokushoHasashi]

I actually own Terminator Salvation on Xbox 360, I bought it from Gamestop when they did the Buy2Get1Free deal, and Terminator Salvation was the game I got for free. You're absolutely right about the graphics. It's very similar to "The Last of Us" and both "Mercenaries" games. It would've looked and played better if it was made with Unreal Engine 3 (which was available in 2009). The only 2 actors to reprise their roles from the movie are Moon Bloodgood and Common. The 3rd Person gameplay is very much like Gears of War, and the cover system is exactly like in Splinter Cell Conviction, but it's an easy 1000G Gamerscore.

[@therealevo8825]

Any girl would give this goty after that vibration 😂😂

[@oxymoron02]

woman*

[@kingfu7996]

vibes were really really good in this video. never stop making em boys

[@TechnoCocoa]

I still have the machinima series on DVD. I watched it all the one time...

[@DeanGetYourWings]

0:05 - Man that controller is working overtime. Sounded like wet fart that could tear a hole in the fabric of space.

[@ThatShyGuyMatt]

It's ashame that the only good Terminator game is Terminator Restitance. A game NOT made by a big team, yet somehow amazing. I think they went on to make the new Robocop game, I may be wrong though.

[@jacobscarberry4799]

Idk, the T2 light gun game was fun, and Terminator: Redemption was decent

[@ThatShyGuyMatt]

@@jacobscarberry4799 True, the arcade light gun game was amazing.

[@jacobscarberry4799]

@@ThatShyGuyMatt now playing said game on the NES or Genesis tho.... Well, it's there

[@mastersirus1985]

3:21 Game Starts

[@davidcurry332]

Good afternoon 😃 from spider 🕷️ Dave from the USA 🇺🇸 fan of your channel for awhile now and happy mother s day to you guys and Ashton to

[@funkdrunk87]

Hello B&P, Love the content!

[@assassindelasaucisse.4039]

And I'm the video watcher.

[@jimmideerichards9554]

This game is brilliant for an easy and quick platinum trophy to add to the bag, seen as you can get it in literally a couple of hours.

[@dcflake5645]

This is one of the few games you can get platinum trophy by playing once on hard and no really trying.

[@shawnfields2369]

Really? Is that why anyone ever played this?

[@sporkhatsoda4532]

that aint christian bale, thats commander sheppard

[@Soniti0010]

Im Always wondering, why does the Terminators have No SciFi Cars and Bikes? But they have Drones, high end weapons and AI Controlled High End Space Ships. A Car Like from the old Alien Movies would Look great. Ai Controlled Armor Cars with Mini Guns and Rocket Launchers. They even have a giant Mech WHO Looks Like (Nr 5 Lives).

[@alanmcdonald469]

One of the most shameless, blatant, obvious Cash-In movie licensed games for the time, and for now. Broken, Buggy, Boring, Bland, Horrible game.

[@preyingocelotgames4397]

....I have the platinum for this 😬

[@lifeispuzzling]

Honest question, is this one worse than the Terminator 2 games? (Note: the T2 arcade game was cool, I mean the other versions they crapped out)

[@roguerifter9724]

No. I've played pretty much every Terminator game. Of the non-arcade T2 game I actually think the Gameboy game is the best of those and even it IMO is worse then this. So was the Terminator 3 Rise of the Machines game they've covered before on the show most of the T1 based games, and a couple of the 90s PC games.

[@MrBeardsley]

Yes and no. From personal experience the NES and Game Boy games were actually pretty good but the 16-bit versions were hot garbage. The ZX Spectrum version also reviewed well (ports to other systems not so much) but I’ve never played it so 🤷

[@MovieFanatic4500]

Maybe yall should start a new channel for movie watching and sarcastic reviews😅😅

[@Mintcar923]

I thought the footage of it looked good but I haven’t gotten around to getting it at least not yet.. Then again I kinda got my hands full with the other one called Resistance.. Terminator is my fav sci fi film btw

[@TheMartinChronicles]

Bring back Dick Mychenko!

[@matthewbraith0411]

I have the plat too, not a fun time.

[@captainunderpants200]

Sarah Connor Chronicles was the last good Terminator content, and they cancelled it on a cliffhanger. :(

[@davidcurry332]

I almost I think be almost beat Terminator salvation for PS3 been in Peter, but I didn’t have codes. I looked for coach shark card codes and I thought they had them but I guess they don’t like him his heart even on like easy and you don’t even get enough like extra lives are weapons.

[@petesmart1983]

I remember renting this with another game can't remember a thing so probably was that bad I only played the other game

[@somethingboss]

Yeeeaahhh I think back then I just completed this to get all those gold trophies and an easy platinum. It wasn't awful at the time but very forgettable and not great for sure.

[@SergioMach7]

Not the worst game ever but one of the best games ever to get an easy 1000g gamerscore. Remember when Machinima tried to make a series using the game?

[@SoCalJellybean]

Don’t know why, but our boys are looking extra hot these days! 😉

[@bensonsj98]

It's time for another generic, brown third-person shooter!

[@shawnfields2369]

But this time, it's a generic, brown third person shooter that's based on a film that has Arnie The Terminator. For the 4th time in a row...but not the light gun game based on T2, or the arcade game based on this movie that people seem to love. So good, Terminator games DO exist. Just not this crap festival. Also, I've never seen any of the Terminator movies myself, just like Ben and Peter. I have no idea who any of these people are, and I barely even know who I am. I'm just a guy.

[@rayceeya8659]

The first Terminator is the best Terminator. T2 is good, but I grew up in the 80s. Go ahead, change my mind.

[@oxymoron02]

Or people can do what I do and let others choose whichever they like as their favourite. Me? The Terminator films are okay, but not even among my favourite movies so I rank the first two equally, and the rest below that.

[@rayceeya8659]

@@oxymoron02 " not even among my favourite movies" Then why do you even care? WTF bro? You got no dog in this race.

[@Dustemikkel_Rev]

Not changing your mind, dude. Arnold was FAR better as a villain. It makes NO sense to make an infiltration unit into a massive Hulk with a THICK austrian accent, but it's COOL! And nothing tops the twist with Kyle being Johns dad. Probably a cliche these days, but The Terminator did it early. I think the oldest movie I've seen do this paradox was the third Planet Of The Apes movie.

[@barryoconnor9589]

Terminator 1 walked so the sequel could run. I was born in 87 though so I guess there's that.

[@ThisCharmingMan1984]

I agree, I still think the first one is the best; as with the first RoboCop, which came out a few years after Terminator, it has that undeniable sleazy 80’s charm, that I love about that whole era of filmmaking. You can’t beat a bit 80’s sleaze haha.

[@The-DashFox]

maybe with all the patreon money you could buy some new controllers??

[@RyanCarbo96]

This game was mint easy platinum

[@reno_2200]

Obligatory comment - how do you know John Cena wasn't in Godzilla x Kong?

[@noodlebrains2689]

There wasn’t much hope for this game, considering the movie was a turd too

[@shawnfields2369]

Yeah, I heard how bad the movie was. If the movie was a trainwreck, then why they'd bother making an even worse game about it?

[@deadbydayinblack]

wherefore means why...just saying :)

[@markmcfc1062]

Granted it’s not great but it’s definitely not THAT bad.

[@DerekLippold]

This game has a weird amount of defenders

[@matthewdixon8600]

WGE

[@riy10]

Watch more films for real lads 😂😂

[@aliensweathands]

👽

[@roguerifter9724]

You already covered one Terminator game I think is worse then this (Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines for PS2) on this show and there are many Terminator games I think are worse then both so I find the idea of anyone claiming this is the worst game ever laughable. Salvation is IMO the best of the post T2 Terminator movies. I remember watching T2 on VHS during a sleepover at a childhood friend's house when I was eight and wanting more War against the Machines content. So I was very happy when we finally got an all War Against the Machines movie just in time to be my twenty-fifth birthday movie with friends and family but unfortunately after that they regressed to the time travel plot.. Edit: As for why Skynet uses humanoid machines its probably because a humanoid machine can get into the same places as a human so they can get into our hiding places easier. Edit 2: I've seen every Terminator movie, the TV series, the Machinma series (Which was made using this game's engine), read many of the comics, all the Terminator novels I know of, and played all, or almost all of the games. I don't remember flying Terminators. So if they show up in the next movie we know who to blame. Also the Terminators in the pre-Salvation movies were more advanced models so taking out their vehicles slowed them down but it didn't finish them off. The Arnolds in the first two movies are T-800 while the third is a T-850. And the Liquid metal Terminators are T-100s while the T-3 Skynet Terminator is a T-X but is clearly either a successor to the T-1000 or maybe a model between the T-800 and the T-1000 (It uses a conventional Endoskeleton with built in weapons but has a layer of the liquid metal used for the T-1000. (The T3 novelization states its a post 1000 model but the movies never do and both the X and 1000 have enough advantages over the other that IMO either could be the later design)

[@Splozy]

Thanks captain obvious 😊

[@MrBeardsley]

If you’ve ever watched this show before then you should know the slogan is “They’re not the worst games, just worst than most.” They’ve never tried to argue any of the games are actually “the worst game ever” (check out Matt McMuscles’ Worst Fighting Game series for that kind of content), they don’t even try to objectively review the games. And what do your thoughts on the movie have to do with the game? You start off all “How DARE you claim this is the worst game ever” (even though they didn’t) then proceed to talk about how much you liked the movie, as if being the least worst post-T2 sequel has anything to do with the game.

[@gamestech9016]

fisrt

[@user-bw4jm1bv1i]

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[@uncut_cowboy]

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[@trenteaston3515]

I talked to a Q&A tester for this game on SomethingAwful who told me on their lunch breaks they would speed run this game and managed to finally break it to under hour runs because they knew the game was so short they could easily do it. It was a running joke over there just how short the game was.

[@Redovan7]

This was my first game for my ps3 :(

[@mardangamer9109]

This is my favorite Terminator Game Bro😢

[@Spacething7474]

no this game's alright

[@MrBeardsley]

Are you sure you’re not thinking of the Salvation arcade game? That was great, whereas this is the kind of game you’d only like if you hadn’t played any of the vastly superior third-person shooters that preceded it or came out around the same time.

[@Spacething7474]

@@MrBeardsley i've played both and thought they were both good sure this one isn't as great as other third-person shooters, but that doesn't take away that it's still a decent game and not worthy of being on this series

[@KZRobbo]

I mean, I didn’t hate it.

[@DanWMiller]

Definitely not one of the worst games ever

[@davidcurry332]

It’s a underrated gem 💎 🕹️ And same of the movie

[@playthatfunkymusicrobot]

Peter & Ben have the worst taste in film. Are Crap Wars & MCU the only movies they watch?

[@Richbroth]

Not worthy of worst games ever, its actually not bad at all.

[@jimbob8726]

I had fun with this game, start to finish, better than the average of AAA games. Then again TripleJump will make a video called "gamings biggest moments" while preaching about how innocent and good Anita Sarkeesian is and gamers are mean bullies. Yeh, yous are damn out-of-touch or at the very least ignorant when it suits.

[@ThatShyGuyMatt]

And yet you still are subbed and watch. lol. That said the game has average of just about a 5 out of 10. That is not "good", that fits into worst games ever.

[@Spacething7474]

​@@ThatShyGuyMattan average of a 5/10 is not worst games ever material at all maybe most meh games ever, but certainly not worst

[@DerekLippold]

Just worse than most

[@Spacething7474]

@@DerekLippold but still better than a lot of others

[@pirategirljess]

Game is average at worst. I'm ready to unsubscribe from this channel for this nonsense.

[@electricramjet]

Ben! Watch the full T2 movie you naughty boy!