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@beslemeto3 жыл бұрын
Jay where can i see your own hifi system?
@jaynalaza55913 жыл бұрын
Hi sir Jay MayI ask if this kind of amplifier is good to drive my wharfedale evo 4.4? My room size is just small around 5meters x 4meters only
@duncancheung7942 жыл бұрын
Jay, good job! What will you recommend when their price is about the same from China Hi-Fi?
@DBravo29er3 жыл бұрын
I actually prefer the 6SL7 as input tube over the 12AX Series. A NOS Tung Sol 6SU7GTY black glass round plate (a WWII-era production, Ultra tightly 1% matched, ruggedized variant of the 6SL7; fully compatible) in the input octal and a platinum matched pair of 1952 Sylvania JAN CHS 6SN7WGT with black bad-boy 3-rivet-hole plates, the LM805IA will do things that the Willsenton can't. Empirical statement. One would have to find vintage NOS Telefunken 12AX's for $1k/tube for the Willsenton to come close. The magic is in the front three tubes of the LM805IA. The Mundorf cap upgrades and /complete/ point to point wiring of the Line Magnetic (fully covered by one's warranty, I might add) are also superior to the Willsenton, if only just. The Willsenton is not a fully balanced amplifier; it just has XLR inputs. It collapses that balanced signal to unbalanced in the other side of the input plate; there's no advantage to running XLR to it in terms of noise rejection, unless one only wants to be able to use the bottom 1/8th of their volume dial. If the R800i's XLR inputs do not offer increased gain, which can suppress the noise floor some, then they have negated the only benefit to having XLR inputs. I'd rather the LM strategy and skip them for an unbalanced amplifier design. There's more magic in the tube rolled LM805IA and, purely subjectively, it looks better. The styling of the LM will age better; much less busy and more classic.
@stevezeidman72243 жыл бұрын
Nice job on this review. I’m glad you made the point about tube amps that strive for detail. I’m with you on that. I’d rather buy solid state if I want detail. I’m in my 60s and if I buy tubes I want the warmth and the spacious sound stage. I noticed you changed the name of your channel. I wish you the best moving forward.
@Ali_ReBORN3 жыл бұрын
Jay, keep up the videos bro. I turned 40 this year and realized i never got around to making my Hi Fi setup as life happened! Your content is great for helping me catch up to make better decisions! Thanks 😊
@dab9742 Жыл бұрын
I have one, and it really is a killer. It transcends the speakers, the listening experience is incredible, everything is more defined, bigger, spatial. Its flaw is that it heats up more than it should, the 805 tubes can cause 3rd degree burns to the unwary person who gets too close to them. It's a winter amp, it can be used as an extra heater, but be careful with the back, it weighs 40 kilos...
@veniceog10 ай бұрын
I just acquired an LM 805ia. I am surprised how much I like it. Its not as robust as how I usually like my set up, but it plenty powerful. What caught my attention is the presentation. Its fresh and beguiling. It almost sounds like tracks were re-produced, in a good way. The amp also responds readily to tube rolling. Much more so that the dozens of tube gear Ive owned in the past. Im excited to continue listening to it.
@masher10429 ай бұрын
Any reason why you prefer the LM805ia over the R800i?
@veniceog9 ай бұрын
@@masher1042 the opportunity popped up to acquire a used unit with NOS tubes for 1000 bucks less than a new Wilsenton. It seemed like a good deal. Very happy with it.
@masher10429 ай бұрын
@@veniceog Cool! Also, the internal components supposedly better. Thanks for sharing.
@veniceog9 ай бұрын
@@masher1042 Ive heard that. To be honest, I bought mine out of curiosity. The price was right such that I could sell in back into the market after playing with it. I ended up selling a pre and power amp, many times the value of the Line Magnetic. I am surprised how much I like the big tube SET sound over push-pull.
@masher10429 ай бұрын
@@veniceog btw just noted a minor bug with the LM805ia's pre in. The pre-in on the 805ia doesn't bypass the internal preamp section so the impact of an external preamp will be dampened a bit. Otherwise it is great!
@pasqualevulaj25652 жыл бұрын
hi, i just wan't to say, it's not only about the usual listening and audio parameters. the Line Magnetic amps have something special , magic in their sound...something more ...that others don't have..., they sound GROUNDY, VISCERAL, ORGANIC and ENGAGING, with more reality, involvement and sensations... a friend of mine sold the audio research Gsi 75 integrated tube amp after he heard the line magnetic lm805....and bought the lm 805ia. somebody can not agree, but after i've been owner of 20 tube amps and listened to other 30 different ones in my life...it's not only my opinion...we have never heard around a sound like this.
@faizanhaqqee26652 жыл бұрын
man i've got the 219IA and there is simply nothing better
@DBravo29er10 ай бұрын
I started with the LM805ia. Simply adored it. Upgraded to LM845 Premium. Then to LM503PA monoblocks + LM512CA preamp. I'm just in heaven at this point.
@erics.41139 ай бұрын
A friend let me borrow a 216IA. I'm sold lol. Yah it's special, with that magic dust.
@milosbicanin92312 күн бұрын
you described LM's sound qualities so well, thanks for that.
@robertwang78252 жыл бұрын
In China , the price of the Willsenton ( price was raised US150 ) is the same as the Line Magnetic ( price was reduced US 300 ). So which is a better buy in that situation ? I’m using the Pontus 2 that has XLR output.
@SmallRoomAudio3 жыл бұрын
Firstly top review Jay, great to give the LM some time in the spotlight. As an owner of a 508ia for the last 3 years (and a fellow youtube reviewer) I’ll add a few thoughts: a) The NFB setting is magic, it’s so good for changing the sound to match taste or speakers, full romance through to more incisive, bosh! b) Watch out for transformer hum in a small room - it does get a bit annoying with very quiet music c) This amp outputs a TON of heat - double that of my Synthesis tube amp, great in winter, not so much in summer (unless you want a homemade sauna) d) Change up the 6SN7 preamp tubes for NOS Mullard CV181 and oooooohhh 🙏 🤩 ❤️
@Jayiyagi3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the extra input !
@xxgamerxxchrischris23253 жыл бұрын
@@Jayiyagi hey Jay i am completely brand new to the dacs and the audio enhancing equipment what do u recommend i do because i only use spotify for music would it make a difference if i get a dac for the use of spotify?
@iancasson62583 жыл бұрын
I have a line magnetic premium which I have had since nov 2020with tannoy Canterbury’s I’m in Uk any one who has the same amp buy the pre amp lm 512c4 wow I’m at the end of my quest for the best I’m play cds but vinyl can’t be bettered can’t stress how big a change putting the pre in no brainer great review top guy
@entity2793 жыл бұрын
Yaas! A LM review is really what I was waiting for on yt!
@andrelevesque24053 жыл бұрын
Try adding the Innuos Zenmini MK3’s own LPSU; for me it made an enormous difference, just as replacing my Qnap NAS with the Zenmini.
@francisdelacruz64393 жыл бұрын
Odd that more than 60 years onwards vinyl still rules surprisingly even on sound quality...But what a system, really good table and MC, good tube amps and good speakers! Wondering how this system sounds like with the Sonus Faber stand mounts or even the Franco Serblin Accordio. You would have a hard time leaving the sweet spot....
@xstensl88232 жыл бұрын
i heard the LM 30W class A this afternoon with the new Mytek Liberty 2 DAC. it was mind blowing. the LM 30w is $7500
@spvlinn90092 жыл бұрын
It must be a 219ia? Does LM has dealers in northern america? thanks.
@rodm19497 ай бұрын
At 13:10 I think you are trying to say Holographic, that is my favourite feeling. I am looking towards Cayin as an AMP - could you deep dive into 2nd order crossovers and even 3rd order. You can get a holographic sound inexpensively with taylored crossovers. Underlap or overlap are a personal preference, I go with overlap attenuated so it isn't perceivable.
@mikeknowles58483 жыл бұрын
I'd like to hear the Willsenton 845 version with sensitive speakers to see if that sounds better with analogue. Any chance of getting hold of one of those from a viewer for another review?
@joel_hifi19943 жыл бұрын
Jay, nice review! I have just received an LM-845 Premium, outstanding amplifier, excellent match with Sonus Faber Elipsa and with Harbeth 30.1 (my favourite), pretty poor match with Magnepan 1.7i. Since you like tubes you should seriously consider this amp, maybe the best China has to offer at this stage? Btw, you haven't answered my question from last time: are Line Magnetic and Willsenton owned by the same group or assembled in the same factory? ;) Keep on the great work!
@davidboston41362 жыл бұрын
I've been down this rabbit hole: Line Magnetic / Willsenton. Line Magnetic maintains that they are an independent company and not associated w/ Willsenton. Willsenton will not deny a relationship w/ Cayin however !
@pasqualevulaj25652 жыл бұрын
@@davidboston4136 Line Magnetic produce the Muzishare Amplifiers in their factory
@duncancheung7942 жыл бұрын
I am wondering how does the LM-845 compare with the LM-503 and LM 523 mono blocks? Have you compared them before purchase?
@klepp19 Жыл бұрын
@@pasqualevulaj2565 Line Magnetic uses better parts.
@andrewlim7751 Жыл бұрын
The square transformers in LM are better than the round ones you find in Wellington, the Chinese themselves rate LM higher than the rest. 😁😁
@joelnorris40643 жыл бұрын
Jay, great review. I was wondering if you would list the upgraded tubes you prefer and if you have tried this with the Gershman Acoustics. I am running the Willsenton 300B 805 with the Gershman Studio Monitors and it appears a very good match. Thanks again for review!
@haroldm46003 жыл бұрын
Any opinions on Primaluna integrateds compared with Line Magnetic and Willsenton?
@Moejoe692 жыл бұрын
Do you have any opinion on the DIY type amp kit like the Elekit TU-8900, 300b tube amplifier?
@pureneomagazine Жыл бұрын
My terrible Customer Journey with the Line Magnetic Tube Amps Spoiler: Would I recommend buying a Line Magnetic product? Not when you are in Germany or Austria. I don't know how the customer support in the United States is, but my customer journey with the Line Magnetic LM-503PA Mono Vacuum Tube Amps in Vienna is terrible. In the Summer of 2021, I spent 10k on a pair of Line Magnetic LM-503PA mono vacuum tube amps. This was by far my worst decision in 40 years of buying hi-fi gear. So far, I have enjoyed listening with the amps for 11 months. But for 5 months, I couldn't enjoy listening with the amps because of defects and ridiculous customer support. As I'm writing this, my Line Magnetic LM-503PA is defective at the distributor for repair for more than four weeks, and Line Magnetic has not even sent the missing spare parts from China to Germany yet. But this is just the tip of the iceberg of my terrible customer experience with a Line Magnetic product. This is why I wrote a customer report about my journey with the Line Magnetic LM-503PA mono vacuum tube amp for the Hifi Section Pure Neo Magazine. The report is about many customer-unfriendly emails, a dealer who doesn't answers emails at all, the European Line Magnetic distributor holding my amp hostage, and Line Magnetic in China refusing to answer my questions.
@OSQQ1233 жыл бұрын
Bought my 508 from China for 2000$ and took a variac for the voltage. At the end it costed me 2100$. It is not double the price of willsenton. If you want to compare apples to apples you should compare both units bought from China. If your justification is that you will not have warranty and after sales if you buy LM from China, then the same applies to Willsenton. So at the end the 2 units are at the same price
@Jayiyagi3 жыл бұрын
It does not. Willsenton comes with warranty and servicing centre in the USA
@OSQQ1233 жыл бұрын
@@Jayiyagi let’s be serious for a second: if you have a problem with Willsenton, China Hifi will not accept that you return it to them at their cost, fix it and send it back to you? First of all, they will do everything to make you responsible for the problem. Then if by miracle they accept to fix it, you will pay shipping cost Which is extremely expensive for 40kg to China. At the end, it will be like not having a warranty
@Jayiyagi3 жыл бұрын
@@OSQQ123 there is a service centre in the USA… you don’t need to ship it back to China… same thing with line magnetic
@OSQQ1233 жыл бұрын
@@Jayiyagi I don’t live in the USA. I live in Europe. 80% of the people who watch you videos do not live in the USA. Even you, you are not based in the USA. So if I have a problem with Willsenton I will have to send it to China assuming that China Hifi admits that it is a manufaturer problem (it will be a miracle). To summarise, if you buy any amp from China, you forget about warranty. My personal summary of this video is that at the same price the Line Magnetic is better option than Willsenton. I am also very surprised by your statement that build quality of Willsenton is better than Line Magnetic. I have serious doubts about that. LM 508 is an extremely heavy amp built like a tank. I couldn’t find any QC issues in it whatsoever
@Jayiyagi3 жыл бұрын
@@OSQQ123 actually. 80 percent are in the USA according to youtube analytics that shows me this. That is why I review things with US viewers’ perspective in mind. I am here to report, you are in Europe - the info I provide can be taken in your own ways and you can weigh your own decisions based on what applies and doesn’t apply to you.
@hushpuppykl3 жыл бұрын
The LM805ia is a great amp but over priced in Aus, US, EU etc. Tube roll the 6SN7 and 6SL7 and she will sing. It’s wrong to call them counterfeits. That is bad. It’s just an arrangement to allow the authorized sellers to hike up the price for a crazy margin. The 48w will happily drive something like the Harbeth P3ESR which is a mere 83dB. The Singapore dealer upgrades the 805 with better caps etc and retails for a mere USD3,750. Comes with warranty.
@Jayiyagi3 жыл бұрын
As I have mentioned in another comment. There are counterfeits and gray market. Two different things. I am just letting YOU the viewers know so that you guys can make an informed careful decision. I do not think it was a wrong move on my part to report that. Also, Singapore has great deals but (if you are not in singapore) or buy from another country other than the one you are in, you do not get warranty. Some dealers will arrange so you can get the unit sent back to them to fix if something is wrong BUT you must send it back and it has to be the right seller that agrees to this. This is considered a gray market. I am not arguing whether this practice is right or wrong. I am merely here to report to you viewers so that you are aware.
@andrewlim7751 Жыл бұрын
Counterfeits? LM805 came out much much earlier than Willsengton. 😁😁
@Silverlining1111 Жыл бұрын
👍 Hi Jay, thanks for your share on all videos. May I ask @7:11, the right uv meter on right side looks funny. It doesn’t looks like that in your old Willsenton R800i video. What happened? Many thanks. 👍
@playlist286arhbffsd2 жыл бұрын
Great review, it's was a please to watch it. How do you compare Hegel H190 to Line Magnetic? I have H190 and I am thinking about replacing it with LM or Cayin to drive Harbeth C7. Thanks!
@Blackhowk311 ай бұрын
What NFB setting value do you prefer on LM 805ia?
@DBravo29er10 ай бұрын
I preferred the lowest amount of feedback when I owned mine.
@NawMan35710 ай бұрын
@@DBravo29er, I am pretty sure he was asking for a value setting. 1-4
@DBravo29er10 ай бұрын
@@NawMan357 I know. I can't remember which setting was low and which was high. BUT, they sound radically different. It's either 1 or 4. The lowest setting sounds radically more open and holographic, with bass slightly softer on some speakers.
@NawMan35710 ай бұрын
@@DBravo29er I totally agree! However, this is a true magnificent amplifier! For the record, I toggled between 2 and 3.
@matthewhilty42093 жыл бұрын
I would also love to see you get a Cayin/Primaluna and tell us what you think I have heard great things .
@epi20453 жыл бұрын
Love tube amps! When I tell people what a tube amp sounds like… I tell them to look at an Ansel Adams photograph. It’s hard to describe and there are qualities that are unmeasurable. Ansel Adams pictures are old black and white images using old photo technology yet you get a feeling that’s also immeasurable and can’t be touched with modern technology including color.
@artkulak98022 жыл бұрын
The fact of the matter is all those old Ansel Adams B&W photos look so good is not because of "old photo technology". All the work that makes those pictures look so good actually occurred in the darkroom, not on the film or with the camera. It's all been "doctored".
@epi20452 жыл бұрын
@@artkulak9802 You’re correct about that.
@happinessliving67133 жыл бұрын
Personally I massively prefer the finish of the Line magnetic. But its good that you dont think its worth the premium price!
@andrewlim7751 Жыл бұрын
Likewise, I found the appearance of LM more classy, just can't bring myself to like the cheena look of Wellington....even the "name". 😁😁
@spvlinn90092 жыл бұрын
Great review Jay! In hifi, a little better cost a lot. A bit refinement in hi and mid can make the cut for someone especially you have a top notch front-end. On paper LM is 87dB noise ratio and 90dB for willsenton. 3dB seems a lot. Did you notice LM is bit noisy? Also there is rectify tube for willsenton but I can not find it on LM on paper. Any idea? Many thanks.
@andrewlim7751 Жыл бұрын
LM uses transformer choke against tube rectifier, which thru my years if experience ....just better.
@DBravo29er10 ай бұрын
Having heard both (and owned the LM at one point for over a year), it is 100% the quieter amp.
@RockCity11112 жыл бұрын
This is a pretty thoughtful video to make because your screwed if u buy from a non authorized dealer or seller
@robertkemper88352 жыл бұрын
Great job! Have you reviewed the comparable Muzishare R100 805 version? It adds a phono input, as well as having a balanced connection. Purportedly, it is OEMed by LM. The R100 tube complement is almost identical.
@logotrikes8 ай бұрын
I was unimpressed by the quality of soldering in the Willsenton. The Line Magnetic soldering looks better. Might not be important for some....
@getstarted489 ай бұрын
Hi Jay! Love your channel and the useful knowledge you provide. Would you recommend the LM for Quad ESL57 speakers? Thanks and keep up the awesome work!
@my2cents3953 жыл бұрын
A Musical Paradise MP501 puts out 60 wpc Class A with KT 120 and almost 80 wpc Class A with KT 150. Designed in Canada, made in China. Yes it cost less than the Willsenton or the Line Magnetic. It is on my wish list. I don't need the power but I would like to have volume up and down. I do have MP 301, 303, and 401. They all make me happy.
@kevinsilvernale69533 жыл бұрын
Always lusted after line magnetic!
@YKsfo3 жыл бұрын
so, let me ask you this: how all those "un-authorized" dealers getting their hands on the product? someone's stealing it from the factory to resell? or the company itself selling it to so called "un-authorized" channels so they don't have to deal with warranty etc? how does this system work?
@IRQ1Conflict3 жыл бұрын
China, it's what they do.
@Jayiyagi3 жыл бұрын
Thats a great question. I am assuming its sold behind the company via resellers or distributors. Again, a total assumption
@entity2793 жыл бұрын
With china hi fi , my asumption is that they are authorized for selling in China, but not outside
@ericjohnson8293 жыл бұрын
Yes, so is the Willsenton a copy of the Line Magnetic or vice versa. I presume the Line Magnetic existed first and perhaps the factory that manufactured it decided to make an off label version or was the design stolen or borrowed outright ? I suppose it's possible the factory already had the basic layout of the Willsenton and Line Magnetic approached them to make an LM branded version.
@DJ_BROBOT3 жыл бұрын
@@entity279 it's prolly the reverse. China hifi sells exclusively to us overseas folks not to the mainland folks.
@gaetancharbonneau39023 жыл бұрын
Super review Jay! Hope you will talk about the WT table, such a special design.
@marcbrummel85663 жыл бұрын
Line Magnetic is trying to cut the orders from China. The 508 (805 in the west) cost half the price in china (about 2500 Euro to 5000 here) I orderd the 219 Plus (it came via Hong Kong, thats the trick). The 219 Plus is the poor mens top model in asia. Its about the same than the top model here (805 premium, 10000 Euro) with small differences (official six Watt more per channel and Ballanced in). Mr. Lee from China Hifi Audio has stopped selling LM cause the hype about Willsenton (i had the R8 before) is too good at the moment. Some also keep the rumor alive that its made in the same factory....
@markvelber86642 жыл бұрын
Please classify the amps , Class A or B or? Thanks
@dougg10753 жыл бұрын
I have the wilsenton R8 and it’s the best amplifier I’ve ever had . Connected to Heresy IVs ( with sub) Ifi Zen Phono , Thorens TD166 ( Ortifon Blue).
@vproven3 жыл бұрын
Can I ask what sub are you using with your setup?
@johnshore30952 жыл бұрын
At 4:45 with the pre in.. Can you use pre in AND the 3 analogue line inputs? ..as NAD do a DAC pre (C510) with HDMi switching (2 inputs / 1 output) and digital inputs BUT no analogue inputs. Would this work?
@recboilable3 жыл бұрын
Hey Jay, another great video - really love your transparency and ability to articulate something as nuanced as sound characteristics through your words. Quick question - would this amp pair well with my Klipsch Forte IV speakers (PS Audio Directstream JR DAC)?
@Jayiyagi3 жыл бұрын
Yes that would pair well
@recboilable3 жыл бұрын
@@Jayiyagi Thank you!
@The.Spotlight-Kid3 жыл бұрын
China HiFi sold me 240 Volt wound mains transformer versions of Ming-Da 805 mono's & i had to wait an extra 2 - 3 weeks i was told, but it only took 3 weeks total from placing the order & paying via Paypal to recieve the (u.k.) 240'V versions. Same with my Jungson & Ming-Da 2A3 Pre. Nothing i got from them ever arrived with, nor developed any faults after approx 7 yrs for the Ming-da's & 3 yrs so-far for the Jungson gear. I totally trust them & repairs would be cheaper in u.k. rather than post them (2 x 24'Kg Ming 805's) back to China
@user-yb3ls4mp2n Жыл бұрын
Hello. Do you know what is the difference between Lm 805ia and Lm 508ia? Are they the same?
@GigHarborAudioHiFi3 жыл бұрын
Excellent review. Gig Harbor Audio
@rabaukeweser82568 ай бұрын
Hello. Maybe someone here knows the difference to the 508ia? Thanks
@blejzerosamigos61153 жыл бұрын
Hej Jay Thank you for the great video, I saw A50 MKIII 300B on the shelf there, are you reviewing that one also if yes when it be ready? Thanks
@etoradamaley4713 Жыл бұрын
If you didn't use upgraded tubes in the Line Magnetic, you haven't heard it.
@DBravo29er10 ай бұрын
Agreed! My LM805ia got *so much better* with NOS 6sL7's and 6SN7! Then went to Cryo'd Gold Lion 300B's and Linlai 805WE tubes. DEAR LORD. Simply astronomical improvement.
@tietoliikenne3 жыл бұрын
Hey Jay, may I know the minimum tube amplifier wattage required for the Triangle Comete 40th Anniversary Edition? I own the same speaker but I realise my 6.5 watts amplifier is insufficient for it. I wonder if 20 watts is more than enough to drive it, or in fact 10 watts is enough. If I'm not wrong the impedance goes down to 2 ohms.
@Jayiyagi3 жыл бұрын
Impedance goes down to 4.2 ohms. 20-40 watts depending on your room should be sufficient. Always depends on your room size so keep that in mind
@meshplates3 жыл бұрын
@@Jayiyagi I have Triangle Signature Thetas which have similar sensitivity and impedance; I'm driving them with 15 watt tube mono amps. Plenty in my apartment.
@tietoliikenne3 жыл бұрын
@@Jayiyagi That's perfect. Thank you. :)
@The.Spotlight-Kid3 жыл бұрын
When i was a kid, my dad got into hi-fi & he & his friends would discuss it. I remember being in the room when my dad & 2 or 3 of his friends all agreed that "Tube watts are louder than valve watts" & after working most my life in various general electronics & knowing how different measurements apply, i still don't know what they meant except: if they drove their tube or s/state amps at near maximum vollumes where distortion figures would increasingly rise, the tube amps distortions may be more audibly more benign than s/state hi-vollume distortions. (the odd or even-order harmonics of distortion) But unless you had very inneficient speakers it shouldnt matter tho it was a phrase i'd heard many times & at hi'fi dealers as i got older.
@fabieneldridge34142 жыл бұрын
I drive two set of Klipsch, can you drive two sets of speakers with a splitter or will it ruin the Amp or tubes ?
@bobb.99173 жыл бұрын
Very informative and thorough review!👍🏼
@MHTED3 жыл бұрын
Jay would this be a good amp for the JBL L-300 ?
@Jayiyagi3 жыл бұрын
Hell yes
@MHTED3 жыл бұрын
I’m driving the L-300s with my Hegel H-390 absolutely insane!
@artkulak98022 жыл бұрын
@@Jayiyagi I think Jay meant H E L L Y E S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@domenicofpv64903 жыл бұрын
Enough power to drive the dynaudio special forty on high volume?
@yhhou78093 жыл бұрын
Wonderful review I always enjoy listen to them Next time try out a Caiyn amp please
@AVshowreports2 жыл бұрын
Jay, you are a very good video reviewer. Where are you located? Reach out to me if you want to go up market.
@lesarnolfinis67753 жыл бұрын
China Hifi has stopped selling Line Magnetic recently, any explanations? I bought my Lone Magnetic LM211ia from them.
@TyTyTy873 жыл бұрын
Another brilliant review Jay! Would you recommend the Willsenton R800i with something like the Burchadt A500? Otherwise what would you suggest?
@DBravo29er10 ай бұрын
Oh yeah. 👍
@williamzame37083 жыл бұрын
Wny isn't the ideal amplifier one that recreates what is in the recording, without "warmth" or "brightness" or any kind of color at all?
@ivanr53153 жыл бұрын
Nice review, looks like a good amp! Line Magnetic seems to produce high quality tube amplifiers. I myself I have a Muzishare X7 (KT88 - manufactured my line magnetic, even featuring the same meters) that sounds simply fantastic and even better since replacing the tubes with some gold lions and replacing of the coupling caps with good quality copper foil in oil
@DBravo29er3 жыл бұрын
Line Magnetic doesn't OEM for any other brands.
@ivanr53153 жыл бұрын
@@DBravo29er :) based on which information/source are you saying this? Do some research, the muzishare X7 is made in the line magnetic factory. Google it, also look at the remotes and the VU meters and switches, they are identical ;)
@DBravo29er3 жыл бұрын
@@ivanr5315 I have researched it. Extensively. Buying parts from the same OEM does not make two amps the same.
@bilbs872 жыл бұрын
@@DBravo29er it's not just the same parts - they are made in the same factory
@DBravo29er2 жыл бұрын
@@bilbs87 they are not. Not sure why this myth keeps popping up.
@sean_heisler3 жыл бұрын
Nice review, Jay! A little off topic, those Uni-Fi Reference speakers, they are going to need a lot of hours to open up. I've owned two pairs of Uni-Fi UB52's and with the very complex crossover's they have they literally took about 100-150 hours to get close to where they sound once fully broken in. They are much more open and detailed with well over 100 hours of break in. Sorry, just passing that along. I modified my UB52's and upgraded them.
@mrt63492 жыл бұрын
I can get a used line magnetic for 1100 usd what should i look for when i audtion it? If it sounds good its ok?
@dandaman4563 жыл бұрын
re: shipping In the U.S. you must also pay import duty. The last administration started a trade war with China which I believe saw the duty fee on electronics like this rise to 35% (from 5% ?). I just bought a Doge preamp & *aside from shipping* I paid $509 to get it into this country.
@toddhupp Жыл бұрын
great new look jay.
@davidbailey63503 жыл бұрын
Jay, good job…. And I just love the sound of LP’s….
@charleskatz2606 Жыл бұрын
Neither has pre-outs (it should have two IMHO) which is total drag
@elwinma13 жыл бұрын
You know what? I am Chinese, I bought a Linemagnetic 805 in china cost only "$2,000USD". It was just half price than the U.S. retailer offered. I don't know why those US retailers double the price almost up to $5,000. It's not worth that money.
@spvlinn90092 жыл бұрын
No choice but pay more and power supply is 110v here in the state plus they said better parts? not worth $2000? how about paying $25000 for airtight 300B. People in China takes advantage of low cost labors and good for for them I guess.
@ghostnoterboomboom9119 Жыл бұрын
Shipping/seller repair, service?
@andrewlim7751 Жыл бұрын
Well, how about the parts? From what I know ....the overseas parts are of higher specs, it's kind of comparing Mercedes and AMG.
@matthewtaylor7355 Жыл бұрын
It's called money grubbing
@matthewtaylor7355 Жыл бұрын
@@ghostnoterboomboom9119 parasitism
@neoenglish98673 жыл бұрын
hey man, love your channel
@ufarkingicehole3 жыл бұрын
Seems to reason that you can biamp using SS to drive bass and tube for mids and highs to get the best of all worlds
@tomwebb70912 жыл бұрын
Different input sensitivities.... stupid idea.
@ufarkingicehole2 жыл бұрын
@@tomwebb7091 their are simple ways around that
@tomwebb70912 жыл бұрын
@@ufarkingicehole theres other reasons why people just dont do that but i will stick with stupidity. And yes ive tried it even managing levelling with attenuators but the compromises are there and the timing felt off. Bi amp with the same amps by all means but its still wasting money imo
@twtw7853 жыл бұрын
What model are those grey bookshelves speaker behind him ?
@Jayiyagi3 жыл бұрын
Those are the elac unifi reference
@twtw7853 жыл бұрын
@@Jayiyagi Thanks. Not sure how they sound but they look darn good.
@ysk2493 жыл бұрын
Are you the same guy in the next best thing studio?
@Jayiyagi3 жыл бұрын
yes we went through a channel name change recently
@moodyga403 жыл бұрын
love line magnet
@duncancheung7942 жыл бұрын
Nice review. When their price is almost the same from China-HiFi and others, what will be your recommendation?
@xxgamerxxchrischris23253 жыл бұрын
What's the best DAC!!!!???
@r.f138810 ай бұрын
the price of the 2 is similar now, line magnetic is good then???
@fletchermunson62253 жыл бұрын
Good Job. I cant get past the 100 pounds. Those days are in the past like my old Dynaco MkIII tube amps.
@nkenchington6575 Жыл бұрын
Ironic that a Chinese company is having to fight against fake products!
@DJ_BROBOT3 жыл бұрын
Amazon has got a version too...
@lucioferro98702 жыл бұрын
Try fezz audio, or unison research
@ceddy10313 жыл бұрын
Jay, you got more hair now hahahaha. LM-805IA is such a great amp. I believe Muzishare and Line Magnetic both sharing the same factory according to my friends in China. You will notice their built quality quite similar. I personally own Muzishare x7 with Gold Lion KT88 tubes and I love it !
@jacobmckim17103 жыл бұрын
Yes, I have the Muzishare R100 845 and it's basically the same as the LM 805. Infact you can get the R100 with 805 tubes.
@imosolar3 жыл бұрын
Keep up the good work
@ceddy10312 жыл бұрын
I heard the 805ia only has 220V. I asked the supplier and they said they don't have the 110V version. I need to get a voltage converter . Is that true?
@NawMan3572 жыл бұрын
Heck no!! Run from whoever told you that!!
@ceddy10312 жыл бұрын
@@NawMan357 What do you mean? So the manufacturer can make 120V ? Can we use a voltage converter ?
@NawMan3572 жыл бұрын
@@ceddy1031, If you live in the US 🇺🇸, then yes you can get a 120v. I own a 120V
@ceddy10312 жыл бұрын
@@NawMan357 Where did you buy yours from ?
@NawMan3572 жыл бұрын
@@ceddy1031 depending on your location, you can reach out to Pitch Perfect Audio, in California. They can point you in the right direction.
@HansDelbruck532 жыл бұрын
Why would you call the similarities scary? They both look like fine amplifiers, but I'd go with the Willsenton. You should say US dollars, not USD; that's a silly affectation.
@cynthiakis17313 жыл бұрын
Hi Ihave CayinCS 100 tube amp you think Linen Magnetic 508 much better? Or what different sound or sound stage?
@MZ-tm1tw2 жыл бұрын
If you have a Dac that can compete with analog RTR TAPE or Turntable With MC pickup played with Tube amplifiers then you something extremely good. Check out Steely Dan Aja Album it,s extremely good Recorded Mixed and Mastered all the way only using Analog Tape machine and mixed on analog Mixerbord. No converters, No computers ,No plugins was used on that recording it's all analog bliss. So listen to it on Vinyl.
@johnwright88143 жыл бұрын
But where are the "night and day" differences that audiophiles claim to hear? I appreciate your honesty.
@davidlambert38923 жыл бұрын
They tend to exaggerate everything.
@dab9742 Жыл бұрын
Line Magnetic 🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩
@Thomasp671 Жыл бұрын
The Willsenton R800i is a much better looking amp... Wish I had one.... lol :-)
@johnanderson80963 жыл бұрын
Jay is on his way to a Cable Channel.... Enjoyed Thoroughly!!!!! Thank You!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@kesm663 жыл бұрын
How’s the noise floor for each amp? And was either amp ‘quieter’ than the other?
@Jayiyagi3 жыл бұрын
Nope not really
@beforever3 жыл бұрын
Prefer the look of the 805 but the sound of the 518
@jddp13 жыл бұрын
I'd love to know how it compares to Muzishare R100 Supposedly made in the same factory similar tube 1/2 the price of the line magnetic Has anybody tried it? Another great review!
@jacobmckim17103 жыл бұрын
I own it, bought it from China HiFi back when they were $1700. I got the 845 output tube version. It is top notch, truly top notch. I have no need for any other amp.
@The.Spotlight-Kid2 жыл бұрын
It looks like there is one extra valve (8 in total) on the Willenston amp, i can't quite see what type it is but it's 1 valve extra that is not present on the Line-Magnetic amp (7 in total) But if there is an extra similar valve to also total 8 on the Line-Mag' ...but somehow not visually obvious in the pictures, then ignore this comment instantly & now! If that is an extra valve (5Z3P? / GZ32?) inbetween & in line with the two 805's on the Willenston, then i assume it's a rectifier valve (& If so, likely connected to 1 or 2 chokes under the Willenston chasis. I see no rectifier valve on the Line-Mag' so presume it's s/state powered but all things being the same, s/s verses valve/ choke rectification alone would swing me towards the Willenston ...if it is a valve rectifier / choke connected power-supply (which i think sound better for bass guitar & Hi-fi valve amps. I suppose it could less likely be a voltage regulation valve but even so, that would also swing me towards the Willenston, or is it a double triode maybe needed for gain of true XLR connection? ...my knowledge stops before that last point but gimme the Willenston anyday. (The wonkyness of the Line-Magnetic lay-out looks extremely odd & would much bug me, lame desig there, were they in a rush?!) Sevicing? ...with such a saving pn the Willenston & valve amp service folk are still plentiful in u.k. cities (& i presume across the Atlantic) anything short of a very rare output or mains transformer meltdown, (ive only ever heard of 1, mine 25'ish yrs ago pre-net, from a dumb clown come audio-engineer's entirely wrong valve-equivalent advice & not the equipment's fault at all) ...no other fault will cost much at all with any valve amp, not without being greatly & wrongly overcharged.
@dannymunroe69962 жыл бұрын
Tube amps simply sounds great when playing reggae music.Treble,mid range & bass just jumps out @ you. Like your style . Peace out..
@kohnfutner96373 жыл бұрын
Basically all audio equipment on this channel is worth more than it costs.
@Jayiyagi3 жыл бұрын
Uh… 3:40
@Grooverski3 жыл бұрын
Good job.
@quanyhuang31783 жыл бұрын
The video is very good, and the product looks very beautiful, just like ours. ha-ha
@frankgeeraerts62433 жыл бұрын
Digital is processing analog sound and music.........music does not need this extra processing........natural sound is ANALOG............don't ask questions that do not need an answer........because we know the answer !
@xstensl88232 жыл бұрын
i see the LM 508IA on sale online for $2k on the China HiFi site. it is essentially the same amp? huge savings. is China HiFi legit? why buy a Willsinton when you can get the 508 for same price?
@jamesk74332 жыл бұрын
I don't know about these guys man, time to round em up and do a blind audible A / B test betwen 300 dollar amp and 6000 amp