⭐ WORTH IT? LG C3 OLED Evo Review - COMPARED to LG C2, Samsung QD OLED & Sony A84L

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Once again the C series model in the LG OLED line-up offers excellent all-round performance with a good mix of features, picture quality and gaming credentials. The C3 continues what has gone before and the upgrade from the 2022 C2 model is not huge, but then why fix something that wasn’t really broken? There is slightly more brightness on offer thanks to the Alpha 9 AI Processor 4K Gen6 chip and the latest OLED panel, which when combined together are classed as OLED Evo, plus, like last year, the video processing is now some of the best on the market for upscaling, detail, smooth gradation and motion. But, if you don’t need the slight increase in brightness, the slightly better processing or the newly designed WebOS and quick menu, you could pick up the 2022 65-inch C2 which is almost identical performance-wise for close to £1200 less (in May 2023). We have no doubt that the C3 pricing will also follow the same course over a year that the C2 has, so the choice, as they say, is yours.
The good
👍 Excellent accuracy out of the box in Filmmaker Mode
👍 Superb 3D LUT calibration capabilities & AutoCal
👍 Superb video processing from the a9 Gen6 AI processor
👍 Very good just above black performance in SDR and HDR
👍 Excellent 24fps & 50Hz motion
👍 Upscaling is superb
👍 Superb HDR accuracy
👍 Dolby Vision / HDR10 / HLG / DV IQ
👍 Improved panel uniformity
👍 Dolby Atmos & DTS support
👍 Superb gaming features and four HDMI 2.1 (48Gbps) ports
👍 WebOS 23
👍 Excellent design and materials
👍 WOW Orchestra integration with optional USC9S soundbar and subwoofer
The not so good
👎 No HDR10+/HDR10+ Adaptive
👎 WebOS 23 top third advertising space is not welcome and is a waste of screen real estate
👎 No backlight on the remote
👎 Sound quality is only serviceable via built-in speakers
👎 Expensive at the time of launch (£200 more expensive vs. C2 launch)
Watch our Best Settings Video for the LG C3 here - • LG C3 OLED Evo BEST Pi...
We use Portrait Displays’ Calman colour calibration software (www.portrait.com) a Murideo Seven Generator and a Klein K-10A meter profiled to a JETI Spectraval 1511-HiRes spectroradiometer for measurement and calibration.
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[@dallinjudy5427]

This is hands down one of the best objective reviews I have ever seen thank you for this cheers

[@laughingbat7200]

Thank you for the honest view on the new lg, its good to see someone not pushing expense when its not really needed especially with the way things are today

[@MHjort9]

Thanks for answering my main question right in the intro. I appreciate that a lot.

[@comanwins7195]

I Been looking for days for a video like this, loved it i subed and liked

[@spursla1]

Thank you, you made my mind up. My C2 arrives on Monday. Great review.

[@Jay-gw4zq]

I just ordered the LG C3! Upgrading from an old Vizio 2018 model

[@storms9023]

I have a C1. I'm going to upgrade to C3 this week mainly for the evo panel and processing. I opted for the 42" for desk gaming purposes.

[@khobia2]

Thank you Phil for telling saying that @ 10:26. I saw a S95B and a G2 at Best Buy here in the States and this night and day color purity many KZbin channels are harping about just ain’t so. You are the first person I’ve heard call that out. Appreciate your honesty. Great review.

[@Nescio527]

The reference monitor tells a different story about the Samsung S90C. QD-OLED is just closer to the reference than LG's WRGB OLEDs. Or does reference monitor now also favor Samsung?

[@pubmeatman]

The Samsung’s color is not a natural representation. I guess people that buy them only watch cartoons.

[@eisythetrackstud]

Great, objective review! Hope to see more in the future!

[@Narukami5006]

Hoping to see the 48 inch C3. Curious to see if the bezels are different than the c2 and c1.

[@MSDOGS1976]

If in the market I could go with the C2. I usually always go with the previous year's products for the better price. I don't have to have the latest and greatest.

[@davidginchereau]

This guy is very good.i like his calm delivery.he is the best in my opion.

[@Omegajayb]

Most shops in the UK no longer sell the C2 in the size I want which is a pain

[@wodensthrone5215]

I would avoid the C2 because of the pink tinting issues with the panel. You will have to calibrate the panel to get rid of it or find an alternative D65 white point.

[@stevenhocking6407]

I agree. And this is especially true with tv's, you don't need the newest model. They are pretty much the same every year

[@unclejameel]

Problem is the C2 is not available any more, good luck in finding a new model :(

[@scruffy8861]

Despite the limitations of KZbin presentation i could clearly see the differences between the C3 and C2. Thanks Phil, just ordered a C3.

[@sharms888]

You could ? In what areas ?

[@garrymercer2067]

Brilliant again Phil. I'm pretty sure if a meteorite was heading to Earth and you came on and told us everything would be fine, I'd believe you. Used your settings for my C1, which I thanked you for. Upgrading dining room TV. Was thinking of C3. Probably going for C2 after this now. Thanks again.

[@garybarham3992]

Thanks for mentioning the upscaling of uk low bit rate content that is not considered on non uk reviews.

[@SteveSmith-cm1hx]

Great review Phil. I look at it this way. I have the excellent C1 that I have owned since March of last year and there is nothing that has came out that has made me want to upgrade. Not the higher brightness nor the new Fad QD-OLED. So I plan on rolling with my C1 for a few years then I will see where the tech is at. That being said. I used your C1 settings when I first got my C1 and havent changed them since.

[@rickthomas9278]

Seems the lower the "C" number you got... the better deal. The C-1 was sold out when I started shopping, I saw it for 1,200 USD. So, I bought the C-2 for 1,600. Think I got a fair deal ... 400 bucks more than the C-1, 400 less than the C-3. You got a GREAT Deal ! Hold on to it! I hope to get 10yrs out of the C-2.

[@HiCZoK]

thanks. I will get the c3 if the c1 solves these 2 issues: -Audio keeps changing back to game optimizer every time I restart my pc or enter/exit hdr. -Screen goes black and takes a long time to change inputs between pc and ps5. Sometimes ps5 input looses warm50 setting until I go in there and chaneg 50-49 and it pops in. amazing tv all in all. I cant see how c3 is any better!

[@danielyoung5837]

Looking to upgrade my 10 year old Sony soon for my first OLED. Thinking 55 inch again maybe the G2. The G3 price is a bit steep, or do I try C3. Never seen a 3 up close yet but looked at a c2/g2 in the same shop and definitely preferred the g2. Or do I wait until Xmas or January to see if the drop price again?

[@cod4787]

My LG C1 is such a beast. There are 2 things i hate about it : The lack of space to put a soundbar under the tv and the ridiculous build in power cord with no option to replace it or to extend it ( easily). Sometimes i feel that the bigger the brand, the more stupid decisions are taken.

[@dankeplace]

I got a CS which is a C1/C2 hybrid. The stand is horrible, I have mine on a trolley stand which allows me to hide the cable, put a sound bar underneath and also be able to freely move around a 65 inch fragile OLED by myself when needed. Stands are not to everyone's taste, but in my case, perfect solution.

[@cod4787]

​@@dankeplace A very good and practical idea.

[@lgolem09l]

I got myself a sounddeck instead of a soundbar, which just means it's so big that the TV can stand on top of it.

[@kapnkrunch6833]

I've had the C2 for a year or so and I love it. Only thing that annoys me is not being able to change the application buttons on my remote to what I want, when I push one by mistake it re-download the stupid app again and again and again. Otherwise I love it

[@RinzSach]

Yeah Samsung TVs just use a 2 pin and it's easier coz you can just replace it.

[@jardelafiune3026]

I don’t have any OLED tv, planning to get one, I’ve seen c2, g2 in person and honestly I didn’t notice the difference, but I also have seen in person c3 and g3 and I can tell you that g3 is brighter when you have white images on the screen, because in dark images g3 just give you a bit more detail. I wish I could get g3 55 but it’s too expensive I think I’ll go with the c3 because I don’t have the c1 or c2, if you have those ones, I think you can keep them, maybe next year, MLA tech will be in C line panels.

[@joewozniak2231]

Nice review. Everyone wants to praise the QD but still not sold on reliability and burn in appears to be an issue where it’s essentially not on the LGs. On the hunt for low cost C2 77”.

[@peterseinfeld]

Walmart has it for 2100

[@rare6499]

Differences are pretty incremental at this point, especially as we aren’t really due any major upgrades anytime soon, 4k and 2.1hdmi are here to stay for some time.

[@RinzSach]

No they are some like 9.1.2 (VIRTUAL), in comparison to 7.1.2. And very importantly dts audio playback and passthrough which the LG c2 lacks which is very very very annoying 😡. I wish the c3 was out when I got my c2, I was one month early to release. DTS audio support is annoying I have to plug hdmi into soundbar and lose VRR and 4k 120hz because soundbar would never support that signal. I hope LG sends update to older oleds for dts passthrough AT LEAST. Playback can be absent I don't care. I know dts is a dying format but loads of blu rays use it and Disney plus use it so it's annoying.

[@jhors7777]

Thank you for posting this helpful video

[@michaelwyckoff7593]

Always seems to be the best all around OLED tv.

[@pawebatyra1819]

i have 48" C1... 42" seems much better for my needs (TV as PC monitor)... I'm really curious if 42"C3 will be noticeable upgrade from my current 48"C1.

[@George-ps5]

Do you have a video on how to turn ads off deep in the settings? Thank you I subbed

[@zuti071]

Great and honest review. C2 will be fine for me.

[@NB_NB_NB]

Just upgraded my 65CX to a 77C3. Much more upgrades besides the picture quality. Well impressed 👍

[@avforums]

Nice 👍

[@peterseinfeld]

How noticeable is the difference between the two . I have the CX myself and also thinking of upgrading to the C3 77

[@billtinnell2206]

Just got my C3 65" on sale for $1,700.00 out the door. Incredible, unbelievable, and fantastic TV. Has same processor as the the more expensive G3 which makes this TV an incredible value over the G3. In my opinion its the same TV but is only a pinch dimmer. Just turn up the brightness on the C3 and you wont notice the $700.00 difference. The C3 is the sleeper TV of 2003!!! Super clear and super colorful! Has 10 picture modes and a picture wizard so you can adjust this C3 over 100 different ways to perfectly fit your eye. Can't say enough about the C3. BIFF, BAM, POW, BATMAN! This TV is AMA-A-A-ZING. I'm set for the next 5 or more years!

[@ashutoshshukla2325]

Hello AVForums, I bought LG C3 evo 42 inches but 2 small side stands for table top which come inside the box are missing, when I told LG about this they are saying either you will get wall mounted kit or small side stands which should have already been given inside the TV box. What should I do any ideas?

[@juanblanco7898]

Could you tell if it's possible to adjust the white balance with multipoint (10 point or 22 point) precision in the Game Optimizer image mode and with input set to PC / Chroma 4:4:4 Passthrough option enabled, by any chance? I know that Game Optimizer mode allows for a 2 point adjustment, but that feels inadequate to me taking into account the extent of inaccuracies in that mode, especially with it's EOTF tracking. Or is it possible to do a hardware calibration for that image mode via CalMan' calibration suite for LG? Does that bypass the image processing limitations imposed by that mode? I'd be EXTREMELY grateful if you could clear that up for me! Anyway, thank for the review.

[@mz4ever123]

What about DTS support? I cannot see it mentioned on spec list for UK models

[@alexkotlar2327]

This C3 is clearly using an MLA panel. The viewing angle improvement shows this, impossible without SEMLA, because the color shift in C2 and earlier was caused by the additional height of the stacks of OLED emitters causing light to scatter unevenly at angle.

[@polishdude001]

Maybe they have a variation of it

[@ye-rochawkins5432]

“The difference between the C2/C3 and the S95B isn’t as night and day as many influences would have you believe”….facts, and shots fired 🔥 I love you honesty, and objective analysis. I’ve been saying this ever since last year, when I had experienced both sets for myself, and spent a good amount of time learning them. Prior to that, I was losing sleep over deciding between the two, for nearly two weeks. I still haven’t caught up on sleep 😅 However, once I experienced them both, my mind was made up rather quickly, and I kept the C2 over the S95B, despite many claiming the gap is just so astronomically HUGE between the two sets. It was not as mind blowing to me, clearly. And don’t get me wrong, I love QDO, especially for its higher color volume/gamut, better SPD, etc. There’s also thing I do not like, too. To me tho, the Samsungs implementation of QDO was rather poor, especially all the FW update fiasco’s….despite the panel being technically superior on paper. In real world content, especially when aiming for accuracy, it’s not that large of a gap at all, as content is still being graded/client referenced on WRGB’s. And tbh, even when going for punch/brightness preferred type of mode, the C2 imo gets plenty bright and punchy….way beyond the creative intent. I mean look at it this way…the S95B outperforms the HX310 when it comes to color luminance, and BT2020 gamut coverage. So how exactly can we truly benefit from QDO, if the grading monitors being used, can’t even reproduce the color of QDO. I’m not saying there’s no benefits…there definitely is…but in 99.5% of content, the wider gamut, is rarely utilized, as the technology is still catching up to the standards. (Can’t tell you how many people I’ve spoken too, that think HDR has no standards). 🤣 The processing just isn’t the best on the S95B, compared to the C2, especially low-bitrate/highly compressed content. Samsung has definitely made some nice improvements this year tho, with the S95C. Tho, I’m still not sold on a Samsung QDO, as I’m a purist type, and my idea of a good image, differs from what Samsung thinks is a good image.

[@Markzy_DM]

Cheers, i am thorn atm between C2 and S90C, and problem all said S90C will get second gen panel at end of year or next year after it sold out first batch of units with gen 1 panel. Are u happy with brightness on ur C2?

[@ye-rochawkins5432]

PS…I’ve noticed this trend with certain influencers shooting TV’s deceptively, purposely, in order to make one look significantly dimmer than the other. The good ole meter the camera down trick….and who knows what else. The representation they often show, is such a misrepresentation of what our eye’s actually, see in real life, that it steers people completely wrong…imo. They will show a TV that looks like it’s barely on, while I’m over here squinting at my C2, not even maxed out in SDR…and I’ve owned some of the brightest QLEDs on the market, so I know what high peak brightness/APL brings to the table. I’ve experienced every technology on the market, other than Dual Cell….tmk. Oh and not to mention, this iPhone I’m typing this on, is well over 1,100 nits, and can get very bright full field. Yet, my C2 here nearly perceptually matching it in majority of real world content, regardless of the standard I’m watching…doesn’t matter if it’s DoVi, HDR10, SDR, etc. It’s actually kinda crazy tbh, how similar this iPhone and C2 look…with such a discrepancies in luminance and the difference in technology. I guess that goes to show, standard work, and are there for a reason. It also shows I’ve probably done a good job calibrating my C2, tho with proper settings, they were very close OOTB. Samsung seems like they could care less about Standards imo, as they’ve gone against the grain of creative intent, since they’ve probably been making displays. It’s nice to see them learning tho, and cater to kore purist types. Anyways, Obviously there is a decent difference in luminance when you have a full image of solid colors, due to ABL being more aggressive….but even then, it’s not like omg, this C2 is just unwatchable bc it’s so dim. I’ve never felt that way….again coming from someone who’s owned some very bright QLEDs. I also, have noticed that these creators also like a 600 nit or higher SDR experience, with a lower gamma than reference, 99% of the time. So there’s this misconception (at least in my eyes), that a LG OLED NEEDS to have peak brightness enabled in SDR game mode…which is ridiculous imho, as the standard is not created for such luminance levels. I actually wish LG would just allow it to be enabled, to close the mouth of said creators, misleading people, as they would no longer have that said talking point. If they wanna burn their retinas out, and go far beyond the standards…while simultaneously ruining their vision of what HDR actually is….and more and likely potentially ruin their panel, then I say go for it. More power to ya. My eyes don’t need such high luminance in SDR tho. It’s honestly a bit upsetting to me, as some who understand the standards in place, and how their supposed to be replicated. It bothers me that so many people out there are so willing and eager to mislead people, in order to line their pockets.

[@ye-rochawkins5432]

@@Markzy_DM So yeah, I’m pretty sure you are absolutely correct about the S90C, at least from what I’ve been hearing…they have told certain people that the later build S90C will be using the newer more efficient blue OLED stack. Which is probably a good thing, as a buddy of mine has had two S95B’s burn in on him, in under a year. Samsung just got done putting a new panel in his S95B literally today, and I’m curious if they’ve replaced it with the new panel/OLED stack, or the first Gen. Hopefully we can find out. I’m hoping he got some paperwork with a part number for the panel lol. I’ve heard that the new QDO panels went from 4 blue OLED layers, to two now…with the newer stack being more efficient. Idk if reducing the layers was smart, considering the issues people are now starting to see with their 1 year old QDO’s. I’m just speculating, but this was probably a cost saving measure. It doesn’t leave me with much confidence at the moment tho. I warned people about first Gen tech last year, which was another thing that swayed my purchase. If the car industry has taught me anything…it’s that you DO NOT buy first Gen technology, unless you’re prepared for issues to arise. LG’s had 10 years to master WRGB and BI/IR. To answer your question about the brightness of the C2…it’s plenty bright for me. Never has it ever seemed dim to me…quite the contrary. For perspective, I came from a CX, and before that, I had sets like the Q8FN, and PQX, TCL 6 series. All bright QLEDs. The CX was my first OLED, and it did kinda let me down a bit, and didn’t always flatter me. But I’m almost positive I got a bad panel on my CX. So I had this expectations to return my C2 before I even got it. I truly did. I was full bore ready for QDO. However, the C2 just won me over, especially once I started comparing it to the S95B. Not everyone has the same opinion tho. There’s many in my camp tho, that kept a C2, and returned thr S95B. Anyways, the improvements LG made in such a short amount of time, we’re very apparent to me. Especially in the processing department. Every gripe I had with the CX was addressed with the C2. It truly impressed me, and still impresses me to this day. In all reality tho, it’s going to depend on who you are, and what you like and value in an image. If you’re used to watching content outside of the standards, and could care less, then you might want to look outside of LG. But just hear me out, and understand that you’re deviating from what the content was originally supposed to look like, and that will come with side effects of it’s own. There’s always a give and take here. For instance, if you wanna watch HDR overbrightened…just know that you will be introducing posterization into the image, which will produce a visual artifact. It’s why PQ EOTF is a absolute STANDARD. Also, if you want a eye searing 600+ nit SDR gaming experience, LG is not going to be for you. Again, you have trade off, no matter what. So if you’re a person that just wants punch, and to hell with accuracy, at the cost of detail and creative intent, than you should probably go with the S90C. Like I said, it’s really going to depend on who you are, and what you like. There’s a right way, and a wrong way…and there’s also preferences. Sorry for that long explanation. You might wanna also read my other comment I made in this thread. You really need to be careful to not fall into the hype train these influencers often conduct. There seems to be a real incentive to mislead people these days. There’s many objective reviewers out there, but there’s also people pretending to be experts too, that truly don’t understand display tech, standards, etc. They give a more subjective viewpoint, vs an objective one. That’s how I see it at least. It’s a good thing you’ve ended up here tho, and are watching and learning from a reputable and objective company, that has basically echoed many of the same sentiments…for instance, if I reviewed TV’s for a living, my review would include many of the same talking points/sentiments as a video like this. I’d give an objective take based on evaluating the set, per the standards. However, if you go to a person that’s just started reviewing TV’s around…say the C19 time frame, we would more and likely disagree on a great deal of things. Then again, they say beauty is in the eye of the beholder..right? My eyes are blue, so one might call me “sensitive to light”…I often ponder if this is why some need such high levels of luminance, vs what I feel I need. It seems like there’s a trend I’m noticing…being most of these people have brown eyes, and wear glasses/contacts. Probably just a coincidence tho 😅 And don’t get me wrong, I absolutely love high peak brightness and high APL, but only when it’s called for. HDR is FAR, FAR more than just brightness alone, which has lead to entirely too many misconceptions about the purpose of the standard. I mean, I can often get headaches from watching bright HDR content, on what many would claim, “is a dim TV”. Remember, HDR is more about dynamic range, giving you far more stops of dynamic range vs SDR, than brightness alone.

[@michael-4k4000]

The C2 is garbage now that the C3, is released!

[@jog967]

is C2 better than G2? Im on the market now for woled tv 😊

[@SteveMuller1976]

2023 models also support DTS and IMAX enhanced now 😎

[@avforums]

Yes, they do, it's mentioned in the written review.

[@thomasconway95]

Hi Phil, interested to hear your thoughts on the G3!

[@avforums]

Review being done now

[@thomasconway95]

@@avforums I am particularly interested to see how you view the C3->G3 upgrade, considering your comments in this video about how many reviewers exaggerated the difference with the S95B. Cheers

[@daibonehead]

I have had to return a c1 to Costco as it developed a fault. Luckily, costco's warranty and excellent customer service resulted in me getting a replacement c3 unit. And it actually worked out cheaper, too. Looking forward to seeing how the new TV performs.

[@lazaroalves0806]

any video of a better calibration for tv c2?

[@Chris-xz1ii]

Hello...could someone tell the voltage requirements for tvs in UK/ Europe? Do your TV's especially the new C3 operate at 220 - 240v 50/60hz or 100 - 240v 50/60hz. Here in Kenya, Africa we have both. If i import from the UK will it work here fine? Anyone with info plz.

[@Remainunshaken]

Which 42 inch TV has dual HDMI multiview/splitview functionality

[@lenso010]

Hey LG team if you read this , my Sennheiser headset keeps auto-connecting to my LG TV. I want to use it with my phone instead. Any solution? Thanks!

[@jammesvqk857]

webOS and the magic remote suck in comparison with google tv, android tv and Sony premium remotes. That being said it is not a deal breaker for the extra cost you have to face in order to get an equivalent Sony TV. However, a TV is something that hopefully you are not going to replace in 5 years time, so if you are going to use it a lot for gaming and/or watching movies and TV on a daily basis and you like the SONY save some money a get a Sony TV if you can. I am still thinking about it as I am planning to get either the LG C3 55 or the Sony A90K 48 on Black Friday. I can't wait to be honest, I am done with my old 2019 PHILIPS led TV. Great review.

[@StylinRed]

So get the G3 or the C2

[@canny7x]

One issue with your Opening Conclustion... The C2 costs more than the C3 does atm and Cost is one Primary considerations for me at this time.

[@anUntouchable]

Can you compare to the C1? is it a massive upgrade?

[@avforums]

We didn't have one available to use in a comparison. However, the C3, like the C2 is a step up using the latest Evo technology which includes processing and panel, over the C1.

[@jackdolah2031]

Should i get c3 or S95C????

[@mistajericho]

ATTENTION! Nothing wrong with buying an older model, but if you are interested in buying the C2 keep in mind that this version still has the well known problem of the faulty auto dimming (TPC)! This means that under certain circumstances (dark scenes with not much movement going on like in game of thrones) the TV dims the display until you can barely see anything at all. If you research this problem on the internet you'll see that quite a few people are annoyed by this. You can switch the feature off in the service menu, but be aware that you might invalidate your warranty by doing so. The C3 originally also had this problem but it was fixed by an official update. In my opinion the faulty auto dimming is still a major difference between the two models, because as of now it is very much unclear, whether the C2 will also receive the update fixing this problem.

[@Burritosarebetterthantacos]

I thought it just got the update….,

[@mistajericho]

@@Burritosarebetterthantacos yes, it finally got the update.

[@mmerlintheking5493]

so im in the market to get a new tv i searched i bit but im not pro....i went to the shop and said i want the C2 cause it was at 1.599 and the employ said what dont u take the B3 its newer techcnology at 1.679 80euros higher .....then i was just confused and made this comment ( my budget is 1500-1700) so what is ur opinion can u enlighten me som1?

[@TheDigitalGuerrilla]

So the c3 brightness is lower than bigger models?!

[@Deltax5]

Plenty on above budget TV's. probably around a grand as well. They only upgrade every year anyways. I got the c1. It's alright. Missed the 3d glasses era. Why they take it out. How am i suppose to watch aviator now. I got it for gaming. Does the job. 720p needs to be worked on in a update for all lg TV's. most part it's good. Color tint i noticed using windows. To see what TV i have. ARG. why that way. Maybe a color dot off screen somewhere. 4k gaming for the ps5 and computer. got the 48" because of room and i managed to raise the funds. I don't think i could afford a bigger size oled. I could get a way bigger tv for the price of the oled and maybe upgrade it later on in the years. Whatever. Lots of settings to tinker with.

[@lenso010]

I just got c3 . paid 4.5k . It needs little bit more nit for day time. I think g3 has it .

[@George-ps5]

Thank you!!

[@drewgilker417]

your the man 👍👍

[@stefvanderbauwhede6538]

I have a C1. Is the step to C3 wroth it ? I struggle with the C1 not havIng DTS. Help me please

[@avforums]

Yes, the jump up to a C3 would be worth it for you with the better processing, upscaling and motion, but I would wait for the price to start dropping.

[@ulaganath]

why not compare c1 and CX

[@terrym540]

I am in the UK, and have had my 65" Samsung S90C since the 21 April, so I am surprised that the QD OLED featured in the comparison was last year's S95B.

[@avforums]

S90C and S95B are essentially the same TV using the same panel and processor. The S95C is the TV with the latest 2023 QD OLED panel, so using the S95B - as we own one - was easy to do and is relevant as it is essentially the same TV as the S90C and in the same class as the C3. I should have made it clearer in the video that we are waiting on the S95C retail units.

[@terrym540]

@@avforums Thanks for the reply. One hears frequently that the S90C utilises the same first generation Panel as in the S95B, yet with my unit the screen looks far more black than grey when ambient light falls on it, and it's anti reflection coating is very impressive. The S90C appears robust and one wonders if build quality has been improved over that of the S95B.

[@jarekzahary]

​@@terrym540 how much did you pay for? 💵

[@terrym540]

@@jarekzahary The price of the 65" S90C is £2999 before a Samsung promotion of £100 cashback. When I bought mine John Lewis was also offering a £200 eVoucher.

[@jarekzahary]

@@terrym540 You could have bought the s95b much cheaper 😜

[@scottsnyder9515]

Everyone seems to agree that the C3 is not enough of an upgrade over the C2 to warrant the price. BUT for some reason, the C3 is currently CHEAPER than the C2 at Amazon and Walmart...so in that case, is it a no-brainer to choose the C3 over the C2?

[@gemlc2022]

Switching back to the old style home menu is a must! I use the older style hat the the newer one

[@ye-rochawkins5432]

Fun fact…as I too was concerned about the new WebOS coming from a CX, to a C2…but you can disable all ads on the Home Screen of a LG with the new WebOS. It’s very simple, and makes operations so much faster on the TV, and doesn’t clutter up the Home Screen. I thought I was going to miss the old WebOS, but tbh, I dig the newer version better. The OS is just so much faster than it was on my CX, and it just has more polish. Easier to read, settings are laid out in a more practical manner, etc. The only thing that’s questionable, is taking you to the Home Screen when summoning the home button, rather than popping up in the traditional blade style. Not a huge deal at all tho, as chances are, if you’re going back and hitting home, you’re switching the content, 99% of the time. Hate is a very strong word…and I think your opinion is probably based off non personal experiences, and more off what others say…

[@TimBartholomew]

How do I change a c2 back to the old style blade menu along the bottom. Sometimes when I turn the tv on the apps appear along the bottom without the full a screen menu. Is there a way to get this all the time?

[@gemlc2022]

@@ye-rochawkins5432 no it's my own opinion thankyou, it is awful as soon as my TV updated to the new style I went straight into settings and changed it back

[@Emindre]

​@@ye-rochawkins5432 no the new style layout is a mistake there's a reason why when it was first rolled out you couldn't change it back but now you can, for that to happen lg must have received a pretty hefty number of complaints

[@Emindre]

​@@TimBartholomew in the settings menu not with my TV at the moment so can't give full step by step will send tommorow if you can't find it

[@umbro1893]

Worth it C3 vs C9 or C8. But not as close as C2/C1. Or wait C4 maybe with MLA in 2024

[@rickthomas9278]

Nice not to see another "infomercial" I'm also very pleased with my Marantz 1509,.which you highly recommended, works wonderfully with my new lg tv. Thx !

[@Kocsis_Robert]

is it worth buy c2 instead of c3 NOW?

[@avforums]

Yes, there is not a huge upgrade with the C3 over C2. If you are happy with the features on C2 and the price is still lower than C3. If the price is much closer in your market now, then go C3.

[@brucecampbellx]

Got my C2 on a sale and it's my baby.

[@zaftra]

I just bought the C3 which was only 88 quid more than the C2 now.

[@walterhowieson7100]

My question is to go for a 65 C3. or 65 G2. Cant stretch to a G3

[@comiser]

This is my dilemma too

[@walterhowieson7100]

@@comiser can anyone advise us ,

[@marcotje888]

Same here... The price differents between the two is only 214 euro's. But think I will get the C3 because I am not upgrading my tv very fast.

[@johnsinachiris1]

at 7:03... "on the AUDI C3" :P

[@Markzy_DM]

U are one of rare youtubers who said C3 is close image as S95B, every one i ask praise S95B like it is best thing ever, even thou it depends on panel lottery, and on longevity i think LG would last more than samsung 100%. In my country atm C2 is even cheaper than S95B, as i use nvidia shield which support every possible dolby vision profile and so on, would u recommend it vs S95B? Would use tv mostly for HDR content and gaming.

[@badboybk666]

In my country is the opposite, S95B is 100EUR cheaper then C2 . Also i have seen no real data that Samsung breaks more then LG. I have seen data that Samsung sells more TVs though. So its obvious more of them will break by sheer numbers

[@---GOD---]

Yeah. LG has at least a decade of experience with OLED whereas Samsung is scrambling to enter the game because their MiniLEDs just couldn't keep up.

[@badex3301]

True, LG last longer than Samsung. but Sony, though expensive, last much longer than both

[@Markzy_DM]

@@badex3301 not according to rtings test, thou they put 15-20 hours of cnn daily which no normal person would use 😁, and still LG to this day showing 0 signs of burn in after 4 months of torture test, u have live images on their site.

[@badboybk666]

@@badex3301 for twice the price

[@RobertJohanssonRBImGuy]

ordered the c2 48 lg. Half the price vs new c3

[@Deffine]

9:32 Magenta tint of white on the QD-OLED!? Looks effing terrible, who would want this?

[@borispantovic706]

Dts suport is biggest plus.

[@ecu4321]

How does to compare with c1 though?

[@playnicegames]

This is a good question as the C1 is the last generation OLED and the C2 on are new gen

[@avforums]

We didn't have one available to use in a comparison. However, the C3, like the C2 is a step up using the latest Evo technology which includes processing and panel, over the C1.

[@playnicegames]

@@avforums that’s why it would be interesting to see a comparison not just read a comparison

[@terrym540]

@@playnicegames I purchased my C1 in April 2022, and it has an EVO Panel.

[@jarekzahary]

​@@terrym540 evo it's not a panel name 🤣

[@jamiemorris5177]

I went for the Sony A80k for £1099 I had previously purchased the Panasonic LZ2000 but had to go back the motion handling was terrible no matter much you played around with the settings The Sony is so much better at motion than the Panasonic

[@Z4d0k]

Sony motion is the best! I tried LG CX and Samsung QN90B before striking gold with the Sony A90J. I’ll only buy Sony TVs in future.

[@jamiemorris5177]

@@Z4d0k Yep I was thinking of going for the 90j but got great deal on the 80k Yep I’ll be definitely sticking with Sony onwards I don’t care about gaming specs I mainly watch movies

[@Z4d0k]

@@jamiemorris5177 great choice! Can’t go wrong with any Sony OLED for movie watching, and they’re still good for gaming :)

[@jayb7055]

So sony has better motion handling ? I am planning to buy A90k .

[@jamiemorris5177]

@@jayb7055 we’ll definitely seem to think so As I said went for the flagship Panasonic after all the top reviews I’d say was a sharper still picture but for everyday use Sony is way better If you notice screen judder like I do easily sorted on the Sony custom 1 setting on the Panasonic no matter what I did screen judder or nasty soap opera effect couldn’t find the balance

[@---GOD---]

Meanwhile I just bought the B2 because I didn't think the extra money for the C2 was worth it

[@michael-4k4000]

Bet you’re kicking yourself in the butt now the C3 is destroying everything

[@---GOD---]

@@michael-4k4000 Kicking myself for spending $2000 less on a product that's like 90% the same as the C3? Yeah, dude... definitely.

[@loveshredding]

only less than 30 dollar diff for c2 and b2 in where i live so i chose c2 instead

[@crazylegs1324]

@@---GOD---$2000 less? Nah. It was more like $600-$800 depending on whether you got new, open box, or clearance.

[@kylealexander1587]

It's a shame lg killed 3d. I still have my 2016 3d oled and won't get rid of it. New avengers look better on that TV than the new oled. It adds 100$ to the cost of a 3000$ TV. I would gladly spend a extra 100 for 3d

[@ahmet_10]

3d decreases brightness and rich colors

[@Capricorn_IV]

I will never buy another LG oled or any other woled again for that matter, i have had a C7 and owned numerous CXs, C1s, G2s and the screen uniformity is absolutely terrible on all of them except the c7. unless you are one of the lucky few that win the panel lottery first time. After experiencing a qdoled I cannot go back, I will switch to a blue phosphorus oled when they get released in a few years

[@mikalkielli3351]

Facts..LG has thee worst uniformity when it comes to their oled panels..QD-OLED is the way to go..I owned a LG CX..and a few LG C2’s and all of them had horrible uniformity and pink tint banding

[@yournightmare9999]

So C2 is still great 🤘so fuken awesome 🤘

[@Deffine]

You dont want progress? Sure, i dont need to buy a new 42" PC screen this year, but i still want a better self-emissive screen.

[@HDav-hl9dv]

Well, right now the C2 is more expensive so...

[@solarpanel9085]

Cool

[@iamdmc]

C3 should have been MLA to make it worth it

[@polishdude001]

Not the first year, I suspect next year it’ll be 1000 nits to compete with the s90d.

[@michael-4k4000]

The C3 blows the C2 out of the water. Already ordered a C3, can’t wait to get rid of my C2! C3 has 4K, HDR, 120hz, tone mapping, Dolby Vision & Atmos.

[@michael-4k4000]

@@westibbs ok wise guy C3 has Evo, HDMI 2.1, and EARC!

[@michael-4k4000]

@@westibbs what sized are you considering

[@BrianRios26]

I’m pretty sure C2 has the same features. I think he’s being sarcastic

[@mugmasher4309]

@@westibbs Would you pay $500 more for the C3? Is it worth it?

[@thebeard7926]

Enjoy your auto-dimming. On the C2 you can still use the service remote to disable it. You can’t on the C3.

[@samhendersonn]

Buy C2 bank for your buck

[@yuragi1454]

💪

[@neiltaylor6645]

The only reason I upgraded last year to the C2 has it had a new lighter design not worth doing this year

[@avforums]

No real point upgrading as the differences are not worth the extra expense in my opinion and you already have a great TV, enjoy it!

[@jarekzahary]

You upgrade from what? 🤔 C1? 😅

[@neiltaylor6645]

@@jarekzahary yes I need a tv that I could move around by myself

[@andy-cy5fr]

C3🖥

[@chadreinke3489]

IMO the EVO panels are inferior. I own a c2 and c1. I regret buying the c2.

[@CrashBashL]

Just so you know, there is no such thing as EVO panels. Even LG clarified this to eliminate so much confusion. Evo means a pack of software enhancements that are working together to give you the end image on your display.