Would Derek Ever Buy An Electric Car? Your Questions Answered

[@LifeinChina75]

One of the most entertaining chaps on TV. Could listen to Derek all day.

[@davyboy888]

Derek your opinion on electric cars is spot on and chimes with all sensible people in this country.

[@michaelgoode9555]

Except it clearly does not. Derek is enritled to his opinion just like anybody else.

[@Bob-ts2tu]

@@michaelgoode9555 sure, EV's have their place for some people in some circumstances like city commuting, and i'm all for freedom of choice, but to try enforce it on a global scale just can't work, take industrial machinery for example, boats, planes, long distance driving, 3rd world countries who have even less chance of the infrastructure needed that we have in the UK, it's all a woke signalling and political football for control, and eventually when it's impossible for vehicle manufacturers to meet the targets for sales of new EV's, it will be multi national corporations who put the pressure on governments to change, the tail won't wag the dog. GL

[@PepeLePew-c4z]

Derek is a national treasure!

[@mb-3faze]

He's a dinosaur who can't move with the times or technology.

[@DennisMillard-mf6qp]

National treasure my foot, here’s a man that as made millions out of petrol cars, did you not expect him to not to agree with electric cars, Rubbish.

[@darrenoak7187]

Derek is a man that knows a thing or two, Awesome.

[@exe889]

Ask him how to spell "awesome".

[@mb-3faze]

He knows nothing about BEVs. His old mind is set in its way. I suspect he thinks catalytic converters are garbage too, and ABS, and airbags.

[@chillycheeks5318]

Electric cars - at last, someone who actually knows cars, talks sense and is detached from any political agenda. Thanks Derek!

[@stepheng8779]

Says two of you who've never had one 🤡

[@iancrawford1405]

1000% agree

[@RobertGott-c3f]

Well said Derek !! Electric cars rubbish Agree

[@rossanderson7553]

I've never had one either,sorry but far too many negatives.

[@Anonymous-ib8so]

Never had my head chopped of but like buying an EV it would be stupid

[@powerglory4022]

Derek should be Transport Secretary in the next government.

[@carlarthur4442]

Great idea 💡 👍

[@garymillerlcs]

Unfortunately, knowing something about cars would rule him out of that job!

[@f3aok]

Derek telling it like it is.

[@kieranwhite6647]

Love how he said no before he'd finished reading the question out loud 😅

[@michaelgoode9555]

Shows that he has a closed mind unfortunately.

[@mol5444]

@@michaelgoode9555 as someone says on Utube,"future my arse"

[@nim3od]

@@michaelgoode9555 If the true energy cost of an electric car down to each component is so good why do we not have a myriad of in depth studies proving the case? We have countless studies that concentrate on a small portion of the overall life of an electric car and so a particular question can be asked in a particular way in order to get a favourable statistically true answer. If you have studied statistics you will realise how if you do not ask the right question you cannot get the right answer. For sure in the future electric cars may become more environmentally friendly overall but it is certainly not the proven case today. I think Derek, along with many of us, will remain sceptical at this moment in time until the technology and infrastructure are improved. Simply believing the diet of misinformation spouted by government and main stream media is naïve at best. My point is that neither are condemning the sale of carbon credits, the biggest bs environment damaging cobblers, created to let the real polluters, such as electric car manufacturers, off the hook!

[@steveclark..]

​@@michaelgoode9555 No, he just knows for sure what he does and doesn't want in life. Even if these EV'S were a real alternative to ICE vehicles, they hold ZERO interest to me.

[@mb-3faze]

@@michaelgoode9555 I'm hoping that in my lifetime, petrol and diesel sales will be discontinued.

[@levelcrossing150]

I find that there are some nice sunny days during the winter months and providing there is no wet on the roads and there are no traces of salt around, I will take my car out. It's good to get the interior warmed up and chassis aired if you can.

[@ColinH1973]

Yes, that's what I do too. I'm surprised that Derek didn't say it.

[@M0UAW_IO83]

It's amazing, just from this comments section you really can tell who grew up in the days of leaded petrol.

[@EelingStudios]

I have a 44 yr old petrol van and a younger diesel so have voted with my feet... but... here on the Isle of Man electric cars do work as the island is small. A £2k Nissan leaf with a clapped out battery with say 30 miles range would do me a treat and I could charge it for some of the year from my solar...8 miles return journey to my nearest supermarket so I'm giving it some thought.. my 1980s diesel van takes over that to get properly warmed up so it's horses for courses.

[@Bob-ts2tu]

and that's exactly the point m8, horses for courses, and if an EV works for you and your needs then i'm all for your choice, but when the majority are being forced to comply with an unworkable situation, then that's where the problems lie. GL

[@number1genoa]

Likewise we have a Nissan leaf and its a great car for my wife driving around town, its utterly reliable and we plug it into the wall socket for recharge 80 to 90% of electricity in NZ is generated from Hydro or Thermal with more wind and solar also now coming online. We also have a dog and a Ford Transit diesel camper van and a petrol engined toyota, I dont dismiss any of them because they all work and are fit for their purpose. Meanwhile the dog shits all over the neighbourhood while we pick it up with a plastic bag and put it in the rubbish :-) What is "Stupid" is dismissing out of hand any proven technology be it Hybrid, ICE, Electric etc . Remember that for every car enthusiast there are numerous folk who just see the car as an appliance like the washing machine or toaster, they just want it to be affordable and dependable. My mate is a petrol head and sees EV owners as Heretic Scum but then his wife nagged him for an EV and he caved in, its so funny because he is addicted to the torque and drives it quite a lot but wont admit he finds it fun. Even more ironic is that he has an MGBT which he keeps in the garage in pieces because he hasnt the time to fix it LOL.

[@AlexBarrettOWI]

Never employ Family or Friends, a dangerous concept. As the saying goes, "No replacement for displacement" I'm with you on electric.

[@colinsmith4998]

Great Q&A session. Thank you, Derek.

[@nickjervis8123]

Electric and hybrid cars are like owning a dog and boasting it never shits in your garden. It shits next door

[@zm321]

Brilliant analogy, I'm going to use that one myself 😂

[@briangeorge5935]

🤣 ha ha ha , brilliant analogy !

[@stuartmitchell8736]

The same could be said about ICE,please don’t accuse me of being a JSO but there is another side to this argument,I collect vintage cars and motorcycles to.☮️this is an ecological disaster in the Caribbean.

[@melol6132]

Solar panels are from £75 each now at City Plumbing. It is happening!

[@rlittlewood6343]

Derek mentioned about electric but what about the battery Rare metals mining big holes in the planet throwing it off balance Whoops another wobble Earth quake?

[@mol5444]

as an 87years old ,i love and got involved with cars from A55 to the original Minis,and have built a couple from scratch,really loved Derek when he was asked about EVs and whether he would have one and he gave his true opinion regard them as Milkfloats and bear no resemblance to a real ICE vehicle.love the channel

[@steveknight878]

Yes, they are very different. Quieter. More acceleration. Less maintenance. Less smelly.

[@rbnhd1144]

@@steveknight878 And Far Less convenient on long trips, they cost far less too, whoops lets not talk about initial cost of the car, Keep dreaming Steve.

[@steveknight878]

@@rbnhd1144 yes, long trips need more planning and possibly longer stops - though these days not much longer (you need to keep up with current information on that). Yes, EVs cost far less to run, that's true. Initial cost - not a lot of difference these days when buying new, and no difference 2nd hand. As for long trips, most Americans travel over 160 miles on a trip maybe 4 times a year - and current EVs regularly do over 300 miles on a charge. I think that a comfort break is probably a good idea by that time. Not a massive problem. For most people, most of the time, range is not a problem. In the UK most people drive maybe 40 to 60 miles a day (commuting). Charge at home, or charge at work, if you need to. A couple of weeks ago I drove to see my daughter - about 120 miles each way. My EV is not great on range - theoretically 160 miles. I got there with about 30 miles to spare, charged up with the granny charger while I was there, drove back in the evening, stopped for a top-up which took about 15 minutes (spent getting a drink and some food, as well as visiting the little EV drivers' room) and arrived home with, again, about 30+ miles remaining. Overnight charge and back up to full. All very straight forward.

[@rbnhd1144]

@@steveknight878 You paint a wonderful picture Steve but I'm well aware of the charging situation, the charger failure problems, the high cost of charging on the road, and the hassles, Lots of assumptions were made by some EV owners, like cheaper electricity down the road, its only gone up in price like I knew it would, it was free at some shops years ago but that's gone away. I'm in the U.S.A. these 160 mile trips you speak of are nothing, I can do double that on a day out, when I visit my sister its a 950 miles one way, I'm talking Rocky Mountain states, where its extremely cold in winter, where it snows October thru May, I'm British and I know how some Brits cant grasp the idea of long distance, driving conditions road closure due to bad weather etc, the distance alone blows their mind, sat in a car for a 14 hour drive. I can also tell you there are not many diesel cars sold in these states as they do not do well as the diesel can and does Gel up on cold days, even truckers get stuck, We have battery heaters and engine block heaters to keep the engine warm over night so the vehicle starts in the morning. EV's may work in some places in the world but there are many places where it would be insane to own an EV. Lets not forget Batteries don't operate so well in cold climates. I don't agree with your pricing statement either, I'm well up on that too as I work in the car industry.

[@rbnhd1144]

@@steveknight878 I'm not buying what your selling Steve, I'm a Brit living in the USA and I work in car industry, I see EV's everyday. I'm sure many will fall for your cute story but I know different. Hybrids are far cheaper than EV's, plus when your battery becomes worthless it will cost thousands to replace sending your car to the junk yard, so much for being cheaper to run. I love your 160 mile USA example, Id love to know where that figure came from, that's not much mileage for many people here.

[@thomaswright2770]

That will be a no then derek 😂😂

[@meeshker]

Remember Volvo stating that the amount of pollution it takes to manufacture an electric car will take 10 years of use of that car to get back. So electric cars are more polluting than petrol cars

[@johnenglish2702]

Volvo retracted that later as it was from flawed data. The consensus from verified data seems to be a break-even mileage of 17,000 miles.

[@Truth_Seeker_UK]

@@johnenglish2702 lol they were ordered to retract because it goes against the elites money making racket

[@rbnhd1144]

@@johnenglish2702 17.000 miles lol, Flawed Data lol, Volvo is owned by the Chinese, I don't believe a thing they ever say, they have more invested in this push to drive EV's than anyone, The Chinese are massive polluters too. Just saying.

[@Bob-ts2tu]

@@johnenglish2702 hahahaha unlike all the flawed data we are subjected to on a daily basis by the EVangelists, governments, and corporations with a lot of financial skin in the game who conveniently ignore the costs of producing 'green energy' you mean

[@nim3od]

@@johnenglish2702 the 'verified' data is statistical. Someone has paid for those statistics. In the real world the person that pays for the study receives the answer they want or else the question is asked in a different way until the answer is favourable. How do I know? Just from studying statistics at uni and having a partner that works in a university statistical unit. Before believing a headline statistic question the data set, are you aware that statistically a data set of just 22 results is considered valid by statisticians (very convenient for those making a living out of statistics)?

[@GaryForeman-gh6fu]

This is brilliant, someone not afraid to speak common sense, Derek you are a genius!

[@matthewgodwin3050]

Electric cars didn't work in 1904, and they don't work now. Best quote of the day. Derek, you are a legend.

[@garethparr9482]

He sure is. Someone who knows his stuff! 👍

[@RobertGott-c3f]

That's what's called hitting the nail on The head Never any use Never will be🤓😁👍

[@philharrison7886]

Knows absolutely nothing about ev’s everything he said is totally wrong.

[@garethparr9482]

@@philharrison7886 please enlighten us then?

[@philharrison7886]

A lot of electricity is generated through solar and wind and to charge ev at home is a fraction of the price of petrol or diesel. I have a ev and it’s far cheaper than the ice vehicles I’ve had.

[@fontybits]

Linwood, Scotland EV battery recycling centre fire. After 4 DAYS the Fire Service was still dealing with it!

[@steveknight878]

Of course, that sort of thing never happens with oil, does it? I mean, apart from Buncefield. And any others.

[@fontybits]

@@steveknight878 LOL

[@nigelfisher3756]

@steveknight Give up lad, you’re deffo’ in the minority.

[@garymillerlcs]

All the emissions from lithium battery fires don’t matter apparently.

[@mrgrumpy9077]

We love Derek 👍🚗

[@GC-ny9yy]

Well said Derek, could not agree more about electric cars.

[@Bob-ts2tu]

as with the majority, but you can't convince the EVangalists lol, however i suppose anyone who pays all that money just to lose it on massive depreciation and no 2nd hand market, will feel the need to justify themselves, even if their arguments are based of false premises.

[@bobstirling6885]

Up and down the drive is not necessarily the best thing for a classic car, the engine needs to run for long enough at high enough revs to warm up all components, especially the full exhaust system, to remove all moisture - otherwise you are just producing moisture and potential damage to major components.

[@Bob-ts2tu]

very true, it's the same why you shouldn't just turn over the engine of a stored motorbike and let it run for a few mins mid winter, you need to get it hot, and you can do more harm than good, but when i watch B&C and see them try get cars out with rusted in parts i think why couldn't you at least keep it covered up, turn the engine over and move it every now and again instead of letting it get into such a state by being unattended for 30 years - i suppose it's the worst of 2 evils.

[@stringer-ik1pc]

Absolutely love listening to Derek.

[@H4rleyBoy]

One thing over and above what Derek mentioned to keep your classic happy would be to get a Ctek (or other) smart charger.

[@paramotorpilot1749]

Derek really speaks well. I love listening to him.

[@Petrolhead912]

Whats an EV drivers favourite pastime? = Cup of coffee and a pi## in the motorway services 😂

[@michaelgoode9555]

What is an ev haters favourite pastime? Talking bollox.

[@neildempster2827]

You forgot 8 hrs sleep and a shave also.

[@ridbanner1407]

@@michaelgoode9555you mean owning not talking surely. The EV lovers appear a little light in that dept.

[@russthebiker]

a lovely listen, and lots of common sense and honesty

[@neilhurt1992]

So lovely to see you and Dave in Pickering last September whilst my wife and I were staying up in Gillamoor . Dave even liked my old 911! Top man!

[@SteveMillar-t3f]

I was Co driving a BMW (electric) but we couldn’t find a charge point empty plus queues waiting they are a complete waste of money and time our journey of just over 400 miles was a nightmare would I buy one no chance give me a petrol or deseil ( engine ) preferably any time.

[@Brutaga]

Loved Derek’s immediate answer to the EV question. So I thought he’d enjoy this wee quote. What do electric cars and diarrhoea, have in common? answer.. The fear of not making it home! 😂

[@Bob-ts2tu]

spot on about the short term pipe dream of EV's, but then again most of us know where it's eventually heading anyway, still nice to hear someone with a lifetime of experience confirm it.

[@alan2804]

Wheres it heading then?

[@jimmyh6601]

People said the same when cars replaced horses, gave you driven an EV?

[@Bob-ts2tu]

​@@alan2804 Wish i could predict the future with certainty lol, but i believe that as the date for sales on new ICE's approaches (2035 in the EU, possibly back to 2030 if if starmer gets in and changes it for the uk), it will become more apparant that the targets can't be met and the investment in infrastructure to support EV's still wont be there, and neither will the will from most people to give up petrol, meaning manufacturers wont be able to make the % of sales of EV's they are supposed to, and this alone will put pressure on the government at the time to rethink strategy as they aint going to willingly be fined because people dont buy their vehicles. the 3rd world and developing countries can't & wont be giving up petrol vehicles anytime soon, coz where will they get the investment for the charging infrastructure from? impossible. I also feel that there will be legal challenges to prevent governments forcing this on people who don't want it, as these days everything seems to go to international courts, we aint even been able to deport illegal economic migrants, and terrorists seem to have more rights than seems fair, so when there's billions or pounds and our peoples freedom of movement at stake, as well as manufacturers being sanctioned i expect we will see more of it as E-Day gets nearer. I do expect EV sales to increase somewhat, but not at the pace needed, and more realistic deadlines will have to be put in place as people will just keep their existing ICE vehicles longer, and the softening of the current targets will be on the manifesto of a future political party. there's a bit more i think, but that's the nub of it. GL

[@Bob-ts2tu]

​@@jimmyh6601 i wasn't around 120 years ago so can't confirm that's actually true, and if so for how long people thought it, and TBH no i haven't driven one, but i'm sure id enjoy it, that's not the point tho, id enjoy a lot of things i can't afford or believe in i suppose, but don't want them forced on me because of political narrative, and a lot of bunkum that 'we' are causing climate change when actual evidence doesn't support it, just like In the 17th century when they 'knew' witches existed and punished people accordingly, GL

[@alan2804]

@@Bob-ts2tu Hi Bob and thanks for your reply, quite a lot to read through there and of course none of is know what will happen in the future. Targets and deadlines are something that need to be set otherwise nobody would bother doing anything, they may well be missed but they need to be there to create an even playing field for a start. Currently £7500 is on offer for air source heat pumps, that money should have gone into a “Green grant” for anyone improving their environmental contributions so they can spend it on a heat pump or an EV. Making grants available for just one thing is a bad idea…see house insulation pop up companies. So stimulating demand for EVs with a grant would help and as manufacturers of ICE are given targets to comply with or face financial penalties they will up production of EVs and the costs will generally come down especially if theres a price cap to limit their profits. Theres no need to force anything on anyone though, simply make the alternative better, affordable and easier to use and people will go for it. International courts…the clue is in the word, we are part of these and they like all courts especially in the UK make some bizarre decisions but they have prevented the more extreme attempts at law changing in the UK by unhinged prime ministers. Politics…Starmer will get in, what he does when he gets in is anyones guess but id guess more of the same from what he is stating. Thats not something id look forward to. The countries that make up the UK need competent leaders, each country needs to run its own affairs but have common agreements over some issues. That would stimulate rather than continue to stagnate our economies. There just needs to be the political will, the squandering of billions on PPE and HS2 for example should lead to prison for those govt members involved in these schemes.

[@andylyon8487]

Excellent as always, thank you

[@abbeyhall4624]

Electricity is made my Pixies & Unicorns that live in Fantasy-Land and it magically comes out of the wires when you flip the switch etc. Yay for Fantasyland!!!!

[@Bob-ts2tu]

you aint my old science teacher mr Benson from the 70's are you?. he said the same, his point was how do you know for sure what makes it work? i prefer to think pixies do it myself too 😀

[@ridbanner1407]

Don’t forget that it is transported straight to you ,wherever you are by the tooth fairy network so magic power for everyone yay!!

[@pachy444]

Loads of electricity is used to make petrol, then pump it I to a cars tank, wasting electricity that could be used to power it.

[@ridbanner1407]

@@pachy444 that’s right. The first thing we always do in the North Sea is to run a really long extension cable to every platform to “make“ the petrol.. Why don’t you educate yourself before making comments about energy infrastructure?

[@mb-3faze]

@@ridbanner1407 Approximately 2kWhs of electricity is used to produce 1 litre of petrol. They don't make petrol on the rigs. You'd don't even need any energy infrastructure knowledge to know that.

[@boothbarmy1882]

Have a lot of respect for you and i completely understand why a classic car fanatic would hate EVs. I have a few cars, 2 are EVs and they work perfectly well as dailies, 99% or charging at home and my electric bill is £150 a month for a 4 bedroom house, 5 adults and 2 EVs, however rhey dont have the soul of a classic car, but thats the same fo all modern cars.

[@Bob-ts2tu]

all those vehicles for one household, i can tell you're doing your bit for planet earth. btw i pay a similar electric bill for 2 of us in a 2 bed bungalow with a low tarif provider and no ev charging, id have to rig the meter to get near what you say you pay

[@boothbarmy1882]

@@Bob-ts2tu what can I say, check if you are on the best tariff, maybe you are overpaying? I have no-one home during the day and the three 'kids' are rarely there until late in the evening when they go to sleep. Most of the time the house is running on a few pence an hour. Overnight car charging is about £2.40 that's 4/5 a week. I drive EVs because they are cheap to run as daily drivers, never claimed I wanted to save the planet.

[@Bob-ts2tu]

@@boothbarmy1882 we'll i am at home all day which will make a difference i suppose with the kettle and my computer, but all heating/cooking is gas anyway, and i'm with octopus which is supposed to be one of the cheaper options. by the by, if EV's work for you then great, im all for choice, but so much is pushed about that seems to be trying to stop people who they don't suit and it's always the same arguments about how dirty ICE's are while conveniently ignoring that EV's just kick the can down the road (i'm not saying thats you) but it pee's me off. I like riding my motorbike in the country, and a couple of times a month i'll do a 2-day 400 mile or so trip, or 200+ mile days out, which would be virtually impossible to do if i had to go EV. the wife and i share a car and have done no more than 4,000 miles a year in newish ford focus and fiestas before that for 25 years, but when we have weekends away don't want the hassle of finding somewhere to charge, range anxiety or have to buy an EV at a price we cant afford or dont want to pay in the first place, there's no need, what we have suits us, and that's the point, i want choice, and not forced legislation by a government using paid for statistics when it's really all about control - rant over lol, GL

[@boothbarmy1882]

@@Bob-ts2tu I agree about choice, that shouldn't be taken away. Honestly a 400 mile journey over a couple of days wouldn't be a problem, possible in one stop in many cars, maybe an overnight charge or when stopping for dinner. The inconvenience is over-hyped but I understand if used to a diesel it takes a mind shift. An EV doesn't give the thrill of a sports car though and I imagine an E-Motorcycle wouldn't either.

[@Bob-ts2tu]

@@boothbarmy1882 thanks for the comments, but 400 miles on a motorbike over a few days would be a real problem im afraid. most electric motorbikes won't do much more than 100 miles before needing to be charged up so i would need to plan my trips & stays around where the chargers are located, & atm there are very few really, with the situation not improving at any real pace, and then prey they are working when i got there, instead of riding deep into the scottish countryside or wherever - no good for me, as i don't commute. the performance of electric bikes is very good i understand, but they are very expensive, just like the cars, and if i took a trip on my 125 instead of my bigger bike i get 134mpg with a quiet exhaust and little emmisions. motorbike usage should be encouraged as they have a smaller footprint than cars, but instead are subject to pretty much the same ridiculous plans and regulations. it's all bollox and the ban on new ICE's after 2035 or back to 2030 if that fool starmer gets in just aint been thought through at all. GL

[@bobcholawo6787]

Hay. I live in Scotland and your right about the weather😂. But I like being here. God bless you.I live on an island and my 20yr old vw van lives on the isle of skye, we had not been able to use it for over 8 month, but last week it started first go.

[@mb-3faze]

If you're going to edit your comments, at least correct the grammar and spelling while you're at it. My 55 year old MG starts every time too - that's because it's been converted to electric.

[@CHRIS-xm1do]

I’m with you Derek electric cars NAH!!

[@rcmakingtracks18]

Ha, agree with the electric car answer... it's another public con on a massive scale. Liked and subscribed. John...

[@rbnhd1144]

Where do you locate Solar panels when you live in a skyscraper?.

[@mb-3faze]

On the roof and on the near brownfield sites within 100 miles. Sometimes from fields where agrivoltaics are an option and on top of otherwise sun-baked car parks. All this can be supplemented by off-shore wind turbine generation. Easy.

[@russthebiker]

@@mb-3faze with the loss of voltage and amperage over distance, cables do not shift electricity without loss,

[@mb-3faze]

@@russthebiker 'amperage' :) The losses are pretty small - insignificant compared to heaving fossil fuels around - using fossil fuels! Sure - best to generate solar electrons close to where they are used. If you have a roof - then put some up - they are dirt cheap these days. Cheaper than the 'B' the old geezer is sitting on.

[@speedfinder1]

Thank goodness someone with a bit of a media profile has said it, like it is. Electric cars will not be a thing in 20 years. 👍.

[@alanhowemusic2457]

Totally agree with you Electric cars are total waist of time and I would never buy one. All that time waisted in charging time and the cars have no sole there just silent apart from tyre noise. No thank you to EV’s.

[@markandrew6572]

Let’s ask a car enthusiast, who has invested a lifetime of work and money in petrol cars, what they think about electric cars.What answer are you going to get? He reminds me of the people who laughed at the first automobiles and said they’d never replace the horse. FFS

[@nigelfisher3756]

@markandrew Why would anyone buy an EV? Overweight, overpriced, range anxiety, bad for the planet, boring, inadequate and useless charging systems (UK), inconvenient, ugly (ok, that’s subjective), heinous costs to battery pack, incredibly difficult second-hand market, uncertain future…..oh, and did I mention the insurance costs?

[@chrischappell9824]

Electric car, no! Good lad.

[@andywarrington4738]

absolutely brilliant , thanks Derek

[@michaelramsay-fraser7076]

As a committed petrolhead, I've bought, restored & sold around 15 classic cars, usually around '50's '60's vintage and still own one of the UK's rarest 1950's sports GT cars. My daily driver is an EV and I absolutely love it. I'll never go back to an ICE car as a daily driver. I suspect most comments come from those who've never driven an EV for any length of time and don't understand the benefits they provide.

[@stuartmitchell8736]

My sentiment exactly well said,these anti Ev’ers don’t even know what Ice runs on,clowns.🤡🤡🤡

[@Bob-ts2tu]

if by 'daily driver' you mean a short journey commuting & shopping trolley, you have a driveway to charge it yourself, as well as the money to afford one & lose on depreciation in the first place, then great, it works for you, but the majority who can even afford to run any car need them to be more utilitarian, and don't have the luxuries needed.

[@michaelramsay-fraser7076]

@@Bob-ts2tu FYI, my journeys vary considerably and are a combination of short and long trips. Both work equally well in an EV. For the first 9 months of ownership, I used a public charging point and managed quite well, thank you. I now have a home charger so running it is even cheaper. I didn't buy the car new, I let someone else take the hit on depreciation, just like I've always done on ICE cars. I'd never buy new. I paid 17.5k for a top of the range model just 2 years old that cost 38k new. Plus, in Scotland, we can get interest free loans to buy new or used EV's. 😁😁

[@Bob-ts2tu]

@@michaelramsay-fraser7076 i've never condemded those that choose an EV, just those that use it as a stick to beat you with on how good they are and how bad you are, using flawed statistics and brainwashing climate change arguments that support political agenda's. I say that if an EV works for you and suits your lifestyle, then great, it's your money, your choice, and you live by that decision, but for most people the cost both of purchase, ability to home charge, range etc means it's not viable. I say that there is room for both, and maybe like the VHS v Betamax war in the 80's, one will come out on top based on what the consumer wants in a timescale they want it in. personally I don't think battery technology or enough charging infrastructure will ever be possible to suit the ranges needed, and we are seeing now that the charging costs away from home is really getting up there, and how is any government going to fill the billions of pounds lost in petrol excise revenue? - you know what's going to happen if ICE's disappear or are made impossible to run and you have no choice don't you?. GL

[@Roy-gi5ul]

I am one of the very many drivers who have never bought a new car, initially because I couldn't afford to, but nowadays because I have little taste for modern cars, either electric or otherwise. There are so many ways of wrecking the environment that it seems futile to try to fix the issue by targeting just transport. Excessive use, whether driving or flying, is the key, as are all the wars around the planet that consume so much energy for so little result! During WWII there was a well-known poster asking, "Is your journey really necessary?"

[@Mucklegipe]

In Scotland the electricity is supplied predominantly by renewable sources, and in use by their very nature do not produce much pollution. Internal combustion engines do, and are the end of a whole process where environmental pollution is caused. Extraction, transport of crude, refining to extract usable products, transportation of said fuel, they require electricity to power the pumps, then the customer burns the fuel.

[@freequark]

There could likely never be sufficient renewable sources to charge the total number of cars on the road. Even if the required amount of electricity could be attained from renewables, there aren't sufficient such sources at the present time and governments would need to massively increase the number of coal-fired plants and the like in the short term. Additionally, car batteries only last a few years and require scarce exotic materials that have to be extracted from mining operations that create an enormous amount of pollution and environmental destruction. Face it, Internal combustion engines have been incredibly refined over the last 120+ years and are the most efficient and environmentally-friendly method of powering automobiles. The problem here isn't engine technology. It's that there are far too many human beings on this planet. People concerned about "climate change" should focus their attention on population control instead of trying to force pipe dream technologies on the general public.

[@redpillnibbler4423]

I think you’ll find so called ‘renewable’ energy is at least as bad as ‘fossil fuel’ energy.

[@redpillnibbler4423]

@@freequark People won’t talk about overpopulation for some reason.

[@Mucklegipe]

@@freequark My Nissan leaf with full battery health was first registered in 2015, to save you the trouble, that is nine years, so much for the initial five year lifespan that was bandied about by the press when they first came out. The battery packs can be recycled, and made into usable packs again, thus negating the need for fresh materials to be mined, the modern method of battery repair is to identify the battery module or modules that contain the failed cells and replace that, thus reducing the cost and waste. As for lack of electricity, Scotland has a surplus, not because of its unique windy climate, but because it invested decades ago in renewables, hydroelectric being the first, lack of foresight on other countries behalf has made the scramble to catch up with the foreseen demand expensive and difficult to plan for. Why build coal fired power stations? Why not build renewable power plants? Just postponing the inevitable. Funny how no one cared or even knew how the electricity was produced to power their homes and businesses, until some one admits to running their vehicle on same source, then there seems to be a problem for some, or having dish washers and dryers, when I’m sure they could hand wash dishes and resort to drying clothes outside. Nor did they worry about all those lithium batteries inside their new technologies, phones, laptops, tablets and such like. I suspect much of the ire against EVs is more to do with the fact that respective governments are going to force people to have them.

[@tsr207]

I try and keep an open mind on battery cars (EV's sounds pretentious !) but they just seem such a misuse of resources to replace something that works already. Watch Derek's program and see how old internal combustion engines are easy to fix - batteries deteriorate even when not in use (they are chemical after all) - still the people who really run things want them on the road- so...........

[@Anonymous-ib8so]

There are dozens of sound reason to avoid EVs

[@mb-3faze]

Please keep up to date... battery technology is advancing very rapidly. Your information sources which pound on EVs will all be big oil funded; perpetuating the myths you have so eloquently repeated here with minimal justification.

[@Anonymous-ib8so]

@@mb-3faze No it isn't. Lithium ion is a dangerous chemical combination which by it's very nature is unstable and the consequences can literally be deadly

[@Anonymous-ib8so]

@@mb-3faze More likely to be EV funded on your figures. Battery technology is terribel

[@mb-3faze]

@@Anonymous-ib8so Gosh, the quality of pop-up troll accounts is getting even worse! Come on big oil - you need to pay your surrogate trollers more to improve quality! But at least this one has a cutesy name. Who's Terri Bel? Is that the code name of your handler?

[@mrbigarms]

I see no problem using a classic in the winter if the roads are completely dry, I've done this for many years and my cars have not rusted. It's using them in damp conditions and not letting them dry out that will make them deteriorate fast!

[@russthebiker]

also modern rust protection helps, and a good regular underside wash off with a hose

[@paulprescott7913]

Quite right Derek, electric cars are a solution to a problem that doesnt exist and part of the great climate con.

[@rbnhd1144]

That's exactly right, Build the EV, then make ICE's the problem, its all a con and many folks just seem to be easily led down the road with the idea of cheap charging, they cant use logical common sense thinking. 2 years ago I was told by EV owners that Electricity would only get cheaper as EV's got more popular lol, these people Con themselves. Years ago the British Govt wanted everyone to use natural gas for their homes, electricity was so expensive, Its still expensive for the masses, very few have access to Solar panels and they aren't cheap plus they will need replacing causing even more pollution.

[@MrDodgedollar]

Opinion of Electric Cars.. You took the words right out of my mouth Derek…💯 on the money sir

[@zitzong]

Derek, Sir, your comment on electric cars is spot on and the majority of the uk echo your sentiment. 👍👍👍

[@kevinmott6205]

Rate and love Derek to bits ❤

[@Anonymous-ib8so]

Great Q and A Derek.

[@beaujeste1]

Didn’t Derek go to France for a Bentley once? 🤔

[@Bob-ts2tu]

i think so, and i recently flew to greece and hired a motorbike there - your point being?

[@JM00-v9c]

Brilliant ! fire up the Quattro 👍

[@crm114.]

Fact: ICE car sales peaked in 2017 and will continue to decline. Whether you like or not, the electrification of transport is unstoppable.

[@stevebutler7346]

ELECTRIC CARS ,,,HERE ,HERE DEREK We have never had the infrastructure for electric 😊

[@jeremyrichards8327]

Hear Hear. Sorry to be pedantic.

[@Bob-ts2tu]

and unlikey ever to have one, and as for the 3rd world? how's that going to happen

[@ridbanner1407]

We will have the infrastructure one day. It just needs about 50 million of you annoying peasants to get off our roads. Says nearly every elected politician so far .we need a big change of government policy , Derek for transport minister.

[@mb-3faze]

@@jeremyrichards8327 No, he got it right - as right and any ignoramus would get it.

[@unclebunkum]

What a wonderful video!!!...Thanks Derek

[@numberstation]

I’ve no objection to people owning electric vehicles (even if they mistakenly think they’re “doing the right thing”) as long as I’m not forced to do the same. To quote Jordan Peterson, “Keep your hands off my f ing car!”

[@pachy444]

I know lots of people with EVs who just love driving them, they didn't buy them to try to save the planet, they are just really nice to drive, why do people always think it's for environmental reasons, EVs are faster, smoother and more convenient, I wake up every day to a full battery and never have to go to filling stations.

[@nickaxe771]

So refreshing to listen to you Derek.....you take me back to my youth. Derek I think you would make a good PM.....

[@Yorkshiremadmick]

Well said Derek 🎉😂😂😂🎉

[@paulmasterson386]

Great wisdom Derek, thank you!

[@roblachman8919]

Thanks. Loved watching Bangers and Cash. Cheers from Australia 🇦🇺👍

[@manofthehour6856]

Derek is knowledgeable about many things car-related and candid. I don't agree with him on the future of electric for a number of reasons. Too simply discount emerging technology completely is not the attitude Americans had when President Kennedy set a goal to land a man on the moon by the end of the 1960s decade. Negative thinking is the realm of people too afraid or unwilling to grow or change. For the longest time, there was little to no incentive to develop electric. Oil company and car manufacturers profited too much in "tried and true" to have a willingness to shift on their own, and two things have seriously challenged electric: recharging station infrastructure and "range anxiety" / recharging time especially in large countries like the USA or Australia. I would have tended to agree with him fifteen or twenty years ago, but Tesla has been able to create a large network of charging stations throughout the USA, and just yesterday, I was reading how a British startup was able to recharge a car on a test track from 10% to 80% in under five minutes, which is the equivalent of a gas station stop. Price is beginning to come down further into a more mainstream price point. And yes, I do know where electric comes from. Coal and nuclear in some cases, BUT particularly outside the UK solar, wind, and ye olde fashioned hydroelectric (think of the old water mills x 10,000), which don't produce emissions. At Niagara Falls and the Hoover Dam in the USA, there are vast hydroelectric plants. There was never a real incentive to overcome the liabilities of electric cars, but . Myself, would I buy an electric car? If the price was right, and for commuting / non-leisure driving, hell yeah. ICE cars will be around for a long time, I certainly love my cars, but they are a traditional method of transport, and even if a person can be stuck in the past, no one lives forever. At 50, I really don't care if all the new cars are electric. Most cars today are uninteresting regardless, and most buyers are more interested in "infotainment" than driving. To be honest, countries like the UK and USA where there are an increasing number of naysayers will be left in the dust when the Chinese are going all in on the technology. Like everything else, development takes time, and what I've seen in the past 15 years took away many doubts about its future potential. Petrol has the advantage due to its establishment and people's familiarity. Electric has much potential as the scientists and companies who enjoy a good challenge will endeavor to find better solutions. The way the world is today, I have no idea if I'll be here in 20 years or the world, the world moves way too fast to make such predictions, and though one needs to live expecting to be here, I also live for the day and accept things that are beyond my control. An interesting answer from Derek, but we're talking to a classic petrolhead. Most garages will say the same if they work strictly on ICE.

[@22pcirish]

Took delivery of a new Audi EV last month and it’s one of the best vehicles I’ve ever owned.

[@russthebiker]

Its an AUDI everybody will hate you 😁

[@underminer2223]

Smart wise man, exactly what i say about electric cars

[@Fearnstein]

My old boss once said that the internet would never catch on and emails won’t last. There are also the people who said digital cameras will never take over roll film. Mobile phones, most people have one, sad to see the old telephone boxes disappearing, but be honest when did you last use one. Then there is the question of global warming, some still deny it or that solar power and wind turbines are useless in the UK. It is a significant proportion of energy supply. An EV is just another form of transport and if you’re lucky enough to have off street parking you’ll be quids in. There’s really no need to be so hateful, embrace the new technologies, there may well be an alternative in the future, but you cannot deny that an electric car is more energy efficient than any ICE.

[@rob483]

Love these videos, great guy

[@marineguyuk]

Well said on electric cars

[@Kennynwten]

No way!

[@AA-69]

😂🤣... brilliant 👍 stick yer lecky cars up yer asparagus!!!

[@ClotEastwood]

Mathewsons Classic Cars Limited . . . . . What a brilliant idea. . . a Q&A . . . Here's mine Mr Mathewson. Which is the best year Silver Shadow or Bentley T2 to buy and what's the best mileage (less isn't always best as we know) I hope you can answer this as I have no idea when the next Q&A is.

[@awakeamericanow]

I was surprised at such an absolute put-down on EVs. The future is a bit more nuanced, and do not forget that the UK's electricity comes increasingly from renewable sources. Also, how many people are aware that two-and-a-half times the weight of the petrol being used comes down the tailpipe as CO2?

[@ridbanner1407]

Explain the 2.5 bit . Please make that claim make sense !!??

[@pachy444]

I wasn't surprised, his customers are mainly all ignorant to how much better EVs are and he doesn't want to upset them, it would be business suicide. But notice he said he had been driving an EV converted Morris Van, Oh that's not the sort of thing someone who dislikes EVs would be doing is it 😂

[@charleslouden6600]

Evs are so good you have to replace them after 8 years.

[@davidreid8075]

Can you inform Milliband please..

[@terryramsey1470]

Good on you Derek I am coming up 59 and have the same thoughts about electric car's as your self interesting question and answer session as usual keep up the good work stay lucky and healthy 👍 regards to all the family and staff 😊❤

[@chuckmaddison2924]

The people that seem to hate electric are motor mechanics. The technology i have found is beyond them.

[@russthebiker]

you would be surprised at just how clued up most independent motor engineers are, its the baseball cap wearing radio one listening clowns working for main dealers that are the problem, my local garage sent a friend of mine with a problem with his hybrid to a specialist who works only on electric cars, he removed the battery pack replaced three cells and the car is back up and running for not much money, they know that its not worth getting involved and buying all of the equipment when there are specialists around who can do it quicker, same as in my trade

[@iansaint3503]

I have 2 electric cars, and I love driving them far more than any petrol car I've owned. We have solar panels fitted to the roof of our house, so for 9 months of the year my motoring is free. Anyone who is anti EV just needs to wake up and do some proper research. Cheaper, cleaner for the environment and dirt cheap to maintain. I wouldn't be surprised if I get 500,000 miles out of them each.

[@russthebiker]

they only generate power during the day, and only at their full potential for something like 36 days per year as a qualified sparks I refuse to touch PV cells and tiles, having seen too many nasty and unsafe installs carried out by clowns who have done a course and think they are experts, plus bullshitting sales people, recently I saw installers walking along a roof with no safety gear, no scaffold or harness, and they broke a fair few roof tiles, I am sticking with an elderly well maintained Skoda 1.6 Diesel Fabia for long runs, and for short stuff I walk or cycle, also keeps me slim

[@charleslyall4911]

Well said Derek ,❤️👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@MrACOUSTICPETE]

Electric cars ? Too many downsides . Running costs over 10 years motoring ? Let's go Hydrogen !

[@Anonymous-ib8so]

Synthetic fuels which are net zero are already here. That is the future.

[@carlarrowsmith]

You do realise a Hydrogen car is just an EV with an added fuel cell. You still have all the same bits with a smaller battery. Just one that several times less efficient as it takes several time the electricity to get the Hydrogen in the first place.

[@carlarrowsmith]

@@Anonymous-ib8so Dude seriously how much energy do you think is needed to make the Synthetic fuel, use it directly in the EV instead and you'll be going a lot more miles.

[@Anonymous-ib8so]

@@carlarrowsmith If you understood thectetm net zero youbwould realise synthetic fuel os 100% carbon neatral unlike electricity which can never be carbon neutal, Incidentally you do not know me so do not call me dude. You ignoramouse

[@steveknight878]

My electricity for my car comes from either my solar panels, or largely from wind, solar, hydro, nuclear etc. Some comes from natural gas, but very little. Petrol and diesel are horribly polluting, in the initial extraction, the refining, the transport to the forecourt and finally in the burning. Electric cars didn't work out in the early 20th century largely because we had very poor battery technology then - but things have improved vastly, and will no doubt improve further. At the moment, BEV is not for everyone, of course. If you do a lot of long journeys, or if you can't charge at home, then they are less attractive (though even if you can't charge from home they are cheaper to run than ICE cars). BEVs are here to stay, and eventually largely replace ICE vehicles. Not sure how long, but it will almost certainly happen. And around that time, most people will not own a car - they will hire a self-driving car when they need to use a car, rather than have one sitting on their driveway, unused, for most of the time.

[@originalshadowfax]

Except they ARENT cheaper using public chargers and you have to sit there for 30 mins at least, IF you can find one that works. Instead of them being forced down our throats all for the Net Zero rubbish, let the market decide

[@steveknight878]

@@originalshadowfax Are you sure? Let's see. My EV gets at least 4 miles per KWh (it was at 5.9 briefly yesterday). Public charges costs varies, but I haven't found one that costs more than 80p/KWh, so that is costing 20p per mile. My Diesel car does 45 mpg max (usually less than this) and Diesel costs £1.45 per litre. So that translates to £6.70 per gallon. Which means that it costs 15p per mile to run. So far so good - cheaper per mile if you find the cheapest Diesel compared with the most expensive electricity. Now factor in service charges. My Diesel car cost about £600 or more each year to service, not including tyres. I don't know, yet, how much my service costs will be for the EV, but from what I understand from other people's accounts, it should be considerably less. I shall see, of course. As for waiting 30 minutes, yes, it takes longer. I have had to charge at a motorway service station. I plugged in, went and bought a hot chocolate and brownie (you can never have too much chocolate), and by the time I came back to the car, it had charged up more than enough to get me home. I hadn't even eaten the brownie or drunk the chocolate. And I didn't have to stand holding the fuel pump filler in place while the tank filled. OR get my hands dirty with Diesel fuel. As I said, currently not all electric cars will suit all drivers. But they are superb for the vast majority.

[@hughdavies7150]

@@steveknight878 brilliant and very informative

[@originalshadowfax]

@@steveknight878 Pretty crap for a diesel if its only getting 45mpg max (sounds like a big 4x4?), my 2014 2.0 508 Peugeot gets over 65mpg on a motorway and 55mpg around the doors and there's many many petrol and diesel cars out there that are far more efficient on fuel than yours, so for mine at a conservative 60mpg, its just over 11p per mile. As for servicing, its done according to mileage and doesn't cost 600 pa, as being a diesel things like oil changes are at much longer intervals, tyres, brakes and such like are the same, plus I don't pay rip off main dealer prices which you are in effect forced to do with an EV. And all EV's will have to start paying road tax "Petrol and diesel are horribly polluting, in the initial extraction, the refining, the transport to the forecourt and finally in the burning" (Diesel and petrol are so much cleaner that they once were, as evidenced by the road/emissions tax so NOT "horribly" polluting at all). So are EV's in the initial extraction of rare metals and how its being extracted, still has to be refined and transported to the forecourt and battery disposal is going to be a real issue in the future. If you can meet the conditions in my original post, then fine, not "superb" and not "vast" majority. Let the market decide and make their own choice, unfortunately that's not happening and we are being propagandised that EV's are the only way to go. I think we are sort of agreeing, but from opposite ends :)

[@steveknight878]

@@originalshadowfax well, it is 17 years old (Ford Focus 2.0 Ghia), so not all that surprising - especially here in Devon on country roads - winding, hilly etc. You are certainly not forced to go to main dealers for servicing EVs - indeed, most of the servicing is really straight forward. I shall found out, eventually. Yes, EVs use more resources in the original build - but it doesn't take long for that to be negated by the lower emissions for the EV. Yes, of course EVs will have to pay road fund (next year, I believe) - which is only fair. In my case, I pay 7.5p a KWh to charge the car (it will be 7.0p next year), and I get at least 4 miles out of that - so something under 2p per mile. Not bad, really. It accelerates faster than my Focus (not a huge amount faster, but quite noticeable). Don't get me wrong - I have always loved driving cars, and trying to get the best out of them (for the conditions). I used to buy all the car magazines back in the 60s and 70s. Driving the EV isn't as much fun, in some ways, as driving the Focus - but actually I get faster A to B times on country roads, if I want to. It doesn't handle quite as well - more roll, and the seats aren't as supportive, though that has nothing to do with whether it is an EV or not. But the instant torque is really nice, particularly when cornering. I have talked to a number of random people who have an EV (in carparks, mainly) to see what they think of them. All of them have been very enthusiastic. TBH, unless you do a lot of long-distance driving then I can't see any real disadvantage to an EV, and an awful lot of advantages. Most people drive around 100 miles a week or so, and for them an EV will do the job admirably.

[@BryanThompson-i8n]

Would never buy electric car to .sticking to my deasil.

[@philharrison7886]

Of course it will it will never disappear

[@keithsnowdon3968]

Driving an electric must be like having Diarrhoea. You hope to get home before it runs out.

[@iangillon6981]

Derek..Pure Legend. :)

[@simonnorcliffe5877]

Derek is a really top guy. He most definitely knows his cars. His knowledge is absolutely amazing. When i mean cars i don't mean EV cars. They aren't cars they all sound 🔊 like a tram 🚋 😊

[@buddyboy2022]

Derek for PM !

[@kevincoombs7348]

Best family entertainment on TV. Interesting answer re working with the family. Hopefully that's not the reason your on your own today...

[@michaelgoode9555]

So disappointing to see car people at loggerheads over press lies, oil industry propaganda and some basic ignorance. I challenge Mathewsons to educate themselves on ev's.

[@nigelcarren]

Ten years ago we weren't allowed to buy 150 watt light-bulbs, and 50watt halogen spots were outlawed all because of high energy consumption! Now suddenly electricity is inexplicably free, plentiful and great for the planet as electric cars will save us all? (Scratches head) 🤔 Well said Derek. 🇬🇧

[@mysteryman5826]

electric car tyres are more expensive to buy compared to normal car tyres and they wear out faster too. The electric car is also heavier than a normal car so increases the wear and tear to the road surface on which it is being driven

[@pachy444]

Tyres on mine are exact same tyres they put on the petrol version, what the hell are you talking about, they also last longer as no gears means it's smooth power delivery. Have you been reading the Daily Mail 😂

[@mb-3faze]

Yawn, more parroting of big-oil propaganda. You know what actually damages tarmac surfaces? - diesel - it literally softens and dissolves tarmac.

[@mysteryman5826]

@@pachy444 from a well known auto car parts and service retail. it states "As EV tyres have higher specifications than regular car tyres, they can be more expensive. While it’s possible for normal car tyres to fit onto an electric vehicle, it’s not recommended as the weight of an EV will place significant strain on the tyres. As a result, you’d find yourself needing to replace them more regularly. So, while the initial cost of EV tyres may be more expensive, they will be more cost efficient in the long run" just google electric car tyres more expensive electric car tyres more expensive

[@simonflack5467]

You obviously are not in the motor trade making that dumb comment.

[@mysteryman5826]

@@simonflack5467 no i am not in the motor trade. There is no need to be rude and call my comments dumb (also calling me an idiot) I find that offensive. I have not been rude to you are anyone else. Just google electric car tyres more expensive and the first hit that shows up is from a major uk retailer if you feel they are are lying in what they say then contact them and report it to trading standards. I have not had the experience personally but I can read and can understand what I do read. I think what they say is believable. I may be wrong but I think there are plenty of other comments out there. So people can make up there own mind

[@davidstanley4877]

Blow who has worked on and driven ICE cars all his life, has a love of ICE classic cars. No wonder he doesn’t personally like electric cars, it’s hardly a surprise or a reason to stop the press. In 20 years I believe electric cars will be far superior to the cars today and will be the only cars on the road. Right now, yeah they’re not the answer and would be wrong for over 80% of the driving population, but they’re getting there.

[@bield7]

Spot-on Derek. Strange how the EVangelists never acknowledge the significant carbon footprint associated with the manufacture and distribution of EVs.

[@report-all-potholes-and-ro2712]

Such a decent bloke this Derek chap. I want to buy a Humber one day, even just to look at.

[@stephenkemp4778]

The Fred Dibnah of the classic car world. Enjoy listening to him .

[@mikeclark4416]

If you visited the Auction day and found something you like & want & Buy !! , Would Mathewsons bring it back for you ?

[@johnmoulton-zh9rm]

Jim satwick would be proud of you Derek.

[@jonathanpardoe8722]

Dont know if any electric converted cars have gone through Derek's hammer shop , but would be interesting to see if people do want to buy an electricly converted classic . I wouldnt .

[@michaelgibson4705]

The old adage that a new car loses the VAT when it drop off the showroom pavement ,I think it’s 50% with an EV

[@kevansimister3967]

Just a shopping trolley not fit anything else

[@randlcars4582]

Love it derick electric NO