Would We Ever Purchase A Self Propelled Discbine?

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[@HenkAnnieNaald]

Front linkage mower will be awesome on waterways :) Visibility on the mower is great, your able to cut very close to other crops and turning is a lot quicker because the mower is close to the front axle.

[@stevelutzke9600]

For your operation I would agree completely with you as to a self propelled cutter, the pull behind does the job at a lesser cost and it is limited as to what you can do with it. It always comes down to what gives you the most bang for the buck and does it fit in your long range plans for the future.

[@bobkyllo578]

Couple things that come to mind on your video. I can't believe that you'd even considered sharpening your old blades. I guess I had that thought when I bought my disc mower until they told me the blade was only 7 dollars. Then I was like heck order me up some I'm not going to screw around sharpening this. Second you talk about using an open station tractor like it's some kind of punishment and that people should have a cab tractor. I love the heck out of my open stations. You say that having more tractors would allow you to all focus on doing one task together. But you don't have enough machinery to do that.

[@daleley7645]

Smart thinking, I always thought self propelled windrowers were a waste for this area. Finding the right tractor will take a lot if time looking for the right deal. Have a good night.

[@renaekatsma3666]

Thanks for chatting with us about hay equipment. Thanks for the video Travis!!

[@brittblanton8342]

Crystal clear answer for anybody, thanks for the video and information Travis 👍

[@SomeGuyFromOttawa]

Thanks for the update Travis!

[@dewainwoodard4840]

Great video Travis thanks for sharing have a great day and stay safe out there

[@jasonstockbridge1489]

Great video Travis and thanks again

[@gregkortbein5108]

I have been running Self-Propelleds my whole farming career. You are right they get stuck easily. They are more stable on hillsides than a tractor however. The sad fact is they are too expensive to buy anymore. The one I have now is a 2006 NewHolland with a sickle bar 14’ header. Nice machine probably the last one that I will own. You can buy a nice tractor and a pull type machine for less money than a selfpropelled.

[@TheRestOfTheStory]

Thanks for the input.

[@kswaynes7569]

Perfect explanation on the SP mower and very logical reasoning on tractor needs. I can see the need for a heavy articulated but it would sit all summer. I suppose if the price was right, it could sit.

[@andrewbusshardt4533]

Great video as always on the best channel out there. How about another 4440. U liked the one of your grandpas and would be beneficial in many ways. Yah its not 4wheel drive still a great tractor tho. Thanks for your time as always much appreciated have a good one!!!

[@tbix1963]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts and opinions. Never knew there was a self propelled cutter or not issue. 😂 Your currently doing what fits your situation, if you were OLF than it might make sense to have one. Definitely agree with you, there really aren’t many badges to be had for wearing your self down on a open station machine. Stay safe, wishing you and your family the best.

[@marknewman5847]

Very informative video everything you said made total sense I could see where u could use another tractor like a 4440 John Deere be safe out there

[@afarmerslife992]

You definitely answered my questions. Great video I love to y'all get another tractor maybe someday

[@stanleyjones4180]

enjoyed the video travis thanks

[@jacobbabcock5282]

Another very good video Travis

[@2ToneWalt]

I like your style of filming your vids, its very similar to OLF and its real, no BS and you work with what you got.

[@TheRestOfTheStory]

Glad you like them!

[@nikphoenix]

Solid reasoning on not wanting a self-propelled discbine. But you would be surprised by how much they will "float through" and handle the angles. But I agree you need another chore tractor. Just something to split up the hours of hay work on.

[@nicholashartsock2830]

I completely agree with you, I replied on one of your instagram post about the mower and I agree that your farms make more sense to run a pull behind. The guy I help it makes more sense to run a self propelled becouse he has mostly flat ground and it also keeps him from always looking back to the mower to make sure that it is running right. They also use one cab less 4010 with a loader and one 4010 with a cab to stack and move there big square bales. They would like to get a bigger tractor with a loader but other equipment needs to be upgraded before a new tractor comes into play becouse they already have 1 tillage tractor and 2 front wheel assist and 3 4010’s that still work. Besides there new holland self propelled mower non of there tractors or combine is younger than 2002

[@e.a.bfarms]

Personally if I were you I would run the 8235r on the baler. Gives you another tractor to use without another payment. A lot of people run 200 plus hp on round balers in my area. The may cost a little more to run but they sure are comfortable. Also have less issues with them when they are ran year around. By the way I mean no disrespect by all means you guys know you're operating better then anyone.

[@dlmarquart]

That was a good satisfactory explanation

[@erickatsma5776]

Agree with you all the way self propelled diskbine is not safe in the valley cut,plus another chore tractor would be much of helpful for multiple jobs around the farm

[@Pinziee]

Thx for the very interesting video. I think you are right when you say re-using the blades cost more at the end then new ones. Is there no possibilythy to place the wheels with more space of the 4020 ? Greetings from Belgium

[@fallofmanbrand]

great video bro

[@jamesjohnson5640]

Great explanation. I forgot all about the fact that another midsize tractor is always good to have around. Been off the farm to long I guess. Maybe a nice midsize red one would work good for you.

[@leol1682]

Like your video Travis

[@jamiefrench9023]

Man some of the blades look like you could make a knife or something out of them. Keep up the great work and videos coming.

[@wagon9082]

be safe out there

[@mikelatham146]

Dude you look good with the ballcap keep it up

[@briansmith8405]

A 6 series would fit nice

[@decland47]

I like the ending that was great

[@williamblack5837]

Yes agree makes sense

[@clinthochrein888]

I’ve seen self propelled discbines in our fields that are hilly an flat not to crazy about them but within the last couple of years there is a multi mower mounted on a tractor one mower in the front an two on each side as wings sounds like a billion bees when running . Ever thinking of getting John Deere’s cousin....Oliver? 😁

[@craigmiller5372]

I would definitely look at getting another sound guard Deere with maybe a loader. Cheap horsepower and more comfort to throw some hours on.

[@troybrown3585]

This is pry my favorite video of yours

[@MatthewHoag77]

When your operation is relatively small but growing, machine versatility is critical. It's a matter of getting a return on the money sunk into equipment, if nothing else. If you were running as much hay ground as Wes or Tyson, your calculations and reasoning would be different, of course. Each one of you has to make decisions based on what works in your unique situation. Now, if we're talking tractors, we know Brittany has laid claim to the "76". Which one do you suppose Hannah would prefer if things go where they may be headed?

[@youngdude7500]

We haven't seen Brittany in a long time...

[@MatthewHoag77]

@@youngdude7500 Except on the livestreams. She was chisel plowing with Relena earlier this spring.

[@youngdude7500]

@@MatthewHoag77 Not able to get on the livestreams...

[@andrewswart441]

Tyson who?

[@MatthewHoag77]

@@andrewswart441 You may know him as Northern Farmer, his KZbin handle.

[@Pinziee]

Nice video, like always. Every video, I learn a little bit more about the farms. Another tractor, in witch range are you looking , HP, 4x4, and .... Hope you find one in very good condition and in your budget! Greetings from Belgium

[@hturbo1007]

Another tractor is always better to have. With the antique tractors, my brother farms with twelve tractors. You don't need to pull pins as often.

[@JuffoWup78]

I only made it to 12 minutes as I had to head to work, so I'll finish when I get back. But just to say I agree, a self propelled mower makes no sense for you guys both in field size and also the one trick motor as you covered. My honest feeling is if there was to be any more upgrade, it would be to a butterfly mower before you would ever look at going self propelled. However, that would only be viable in the more open fields like the valley I imagine. So the moco would still be the choice for hitting waterways and perhaps pasture.

[@JDfan1990]

I would be the same Travis. A self propelled would be a nice to have but not a necessity compared having another tractor that can do more than one job. Cracking rims just an age/wear issue? I just brought a JD 435 and noticed 1 rim is cracking on it too but for $1200 I can’t complain too much lol

[@craigjohnson8324]

Time IS money changeing the blades is a good move.

[@jeffmarek1237]

I'm with you I would rather take on another Tractor It will do more Self propelled you Use it During the summer And it does nothing Tracker good Year around

[@adamvandervort3623]

If you have time can you do a comparison with the flails to the rollers in both grass and alfalfa?

[@rebel7271]

Yes more tractors gets more done plus your not million dollar Hay operation thanks for the videos.

[@tomhill4765]

Time is money!

[@robertreznik9330]

They must make some large Discbine . One was being used on my neighbors that must have been 40' and pulled by a 8370R

[@juniorjonason3949]

Just out of curiosity but have you guys thought about putting duals on the 4020 to help with stability when needed? I know growing up we had a set of dials for an Oliver 1600 that were pretty easy to put on and off

[@jamesgreene6060]

What about a three point front and rear mower like the new holland one that Ryan got to demo would you consider a mower like that

[@MatthewHoag77]

If I recall correctly, Ryan thought the triple mower was a bit too much machine for their contours and smaller spaces like waterways. Things could always change, though. I can go back to his old videos and find one where he gave the opinion that a vertical tillage tool didn't make much sense for them, and then, of course, they went ahead with the Earthmaster 3000 deal, and we know how they feel about that now. The lesson seems to be: always leave room to learn and change your mind as new information becomes available.

[@ianhaggart1438]

Maby just a front mower for the waterway and hitch up the old rear one when required. Even less expense. If you can find a second hand front mount mower 👍

[@MatthewHoag77]

@@ianhaggart1438 The trickier task would be finding a suitable tractor within their price range that has a front 3 pt. like Big Blue did.

[@MrGkoplitz]

Saying you can’t justify the machine was a good answer, the rest of the conjecture was a waste of time.

[@FoolOfATuque]

I started haying on a open station tractor in southern Texas heat. By the time you are done you are sunburnt, dusty and your lungs are full of dirt. People can keep that crap. I want a cab with a radio. Lol!

[@MatthewHoag77]

I have fond memories of riding along with my uncle in his 4-post IH 886 cutting hay. In hindsight, it wasn't the safest thing for a kid to do (sitting on the fender holding on to one of the posts), but it sure was fun. It's hard to beat the smell of freshly-cut hay, and this was in north-central Wisconsin, so the heat and dust weren't nearly as bad.

[@deereman2479]

I call it your in big dodo...lol been there.

[@farmboy5442]

That's one thing you can never have enough tractor

[@Adam_Poirier]

You and I are the same age and we think the same. I used to try and save money and sharpen things and reuse things and rebuild things constantly. But as I’ve gotten older I’ve come to the realization that my time is also worth money and sometimes it’s cheaper to buy something new then invest a large amount of time trying to save it

[@chevymetrodriver]

Its funny I remember the video where wes was telling u about him standing on the window of w235 windrower

[@tylerrathbun3156]

i was wondering if there would be much custom cutting grass or anything along those lines. amusing you would have time for it

[@doclull1989]

Hey Travis!!

[@Massey2675]

It sounds like you are a busy man I really appreciate the drive and desire and would love a invite out someday to give you guys a hand (for free of course) for a few days

[@nathanbrodeur]

Travis a self propelled mower you don't have to worry about running down the road to the field and worrying like a tractor set up having that behind you and then have a blow out and it dog walking you into the ditch and flipping the tractor

[@ollie-lk5dx]

I bet a 4440 or 4450 would help out a lot for hay season.

[@lukestrawwalker]

I tried sharpening the blades on my hay mower (Zweegers drum mower) and found they just don't last that long anyway afterwards. The blades on mine are flat (no "twist" or lift to them so they're bi-directional, so you "flip" them by moving them to the opposite drum spinning the opposite direction, which is quick and easy with the spring loaded blade pin connectors rather than the bolt-on connectors!) I've found that they wear pretty good on the first side, but when the front corner wears off the start losing cutting ability-- by the time the front corner has worn about 1/3 of the way back across the width of the blade, they're not cutting worth a darn, so I swap them side-for-side and then they seem to last FOREVER cutting in the reverse direction-- not sure if it's some kind of flow dynamics of the airflow or something due to the now-back corner being worn off or what, but they cut a LOT longer on the back side after the "front" side is worn out. I've tried resharpening them on the bench grinder and yeah while you'll get them 'razor sharp' the edge doesn't seem to last very long at all and they're wore down worse and cutting worse than before... not sure if the edge is "case hardened" by heating the edge red hot and quenching them when they're made at the factory or what... which might well be the case-- hardened steel cutting edge will last longer, but then unhardened, softer steel behind it in the "body" of the blade to resist damage from rocks or stuff, whereas a COMPLETELY hardened blade would tend to SHATTER like glass when it hit a rock or something... Anyway, I found it to just not be worth the extra effort to sharpen the blades-- I buy them by the box from the dealer and always keep a full box on hand and so when they've gotten worn out, swapped sides, worn out again, they just get pulled and thrown in the scrap and replaced with new ones... just time better spent than goofing around sharpening cheap blades that won't hold up more than maybe 1/3-1/2 the time the original wear life you got out of them at most, and having to switch them out ANYWAYS... new ones, one and done, get back to work LOL:) Later! OL J R :)

[@aidenkoster6427]

What model tractor would you want for your next tractor?

[@jtschwinghammer]

Not only is it saving hours on the 76 your also saving wear and tear on her

[@jennifersauer81]

When u upgrade spreaders what would u get

[@SimonKL11]

Nice explanation👍 Do you run both mowers in the same field sometimes?

[@TheRestOfTheStory]

Sometimes

[@TheRestOfTheStory]

Sometimes

[@jwhitley101whitleyfarms9]

we cut 1300 acres a year 2 sometimes 3 times we use 2 10 1/2 mowers and don't have any trouble we cut down a couple of hundreds acres then we start baling and we sharpen our blades i will never take a blade off that can be sharpened its like throwing money on the ground but thats just me

[@manaftergodsown777]

Do the self propelled have the choice to spread out the swath like ryan did with the Kuhn?

[@TheRestOfTheStory]

Yes

[@watomb]

You guys really need to scale up. You got the process down an your young

[@thomasrohloff3418]

7630 with loader

[@BWYinYang]

Any self-propelled machine is another thing maintenances and high cost. Beside, if it broke down, ya up the creek, of down time and $$$ with no back-up.

[@angus4202]

time for ryan to get his dream 4960

[@marshakrebs4348]

Don't forget the jcb

[@jtschwinghammer]

How come you don't use the 82 much?

[@larrynicholsiii8562]

I know that thise tractors were tired but do you ever regret not buying atleast on of your grandpas tractors back?

[@nielsdybro9759]

Would you be able to smoothing out the ground by rolling it right after spring tillage to be worth it?

[@MatthewHoag77]

The bumps are one thing, but the extreme topography down in The Valley is quite another. Check it out on Google Earth if you want.

[@robertlauersr3739]

would u ever buy a krone round baler plus keep ur john Deere round baler

[@Thewallaces2020]

If you was to get a new tractor would you ever think of a front loader tractor?

[@TheRestOfTheStory]

yes

[@waterskiingfool]

Self propelled machine would be nice, but when not cutting it's not good for anything else

[@johnwarren-649]

Another tractor would be more useful in my book. It can do multiple jobs not just one

[@ReverseProof]

500 more acres of hay ground, and, a mushroom barn!

[@marshakrebs4348]

Why don't you widen out the 4020 and not have to worry as much

[@TheRestOfTheStory]

The wedges are rusted solid. Took two days to move the rims into where they're set now. Not worth the battle to move them in and out twice a year.

[@marshakrebs4348]

How do you uncease those wedges

[@TheRestOfTheStory]

Break them out

[@erickurtz2750]

Well I can understand what Travis and what you're getting that If you were a more on flat terrain would you would would it be more likely are more of a possibility um but yeah censure do then doing all types of different jobs yes I would I would agree 100% at attractor is more suitable more it's all person it's all a an all purpose machine I can relate to from that sa aspect because yo I don't have an 80 to 35 are like you guys do but you know you know how you talk about you your 7600 well we know chain trading in are John Deere 4100 for AA A John Deere 35 tueni cab unit and it makes it so much more less driver fatigue and um compared to have in being and a suspension C all day long you're mentally and physically tired and I look drive for several years in traktor house in all different law books to try to find one Yeah I know like in yo do a lot more O work with it then my other tractor but the same time you that thing as an investment LI if I'm not work in are Cutten Mullen grass are Dylan some type of work with it the out to in its day just like barman that's not helping me be in productive but keep up the good work and I enjoy your does your I enjoy your videos Anna God-bless

[@heartwoodfarms9982]

Reseeding grass again? .......you guys NEED a roller/packer...trust me.

[@TheRestOfTheStory]

it got sprayed off

[@ReverseProof]

@@TheRestOfTheStory What the?? Andrew?! LOL

[@dalenmeyers7517]

How many acres of hay do y’all have?

[@TheRestOfTheStory]

couple hundred. I don't know the exact number off the top of my head.

[@TheRestOfTheStory]

couple hundred. I don't know the exact number off the top of my head.

[@mennoreuten1563]

Wtf is john de haas

[@uhohspagettioh97531]

I'm gonna buy a tractor to NOT put hrs on it, save hrs uhg!! That tractor should be making you money while your using it therefore you should want your tractors to generate revenue.. your thinking would be like a baker telling the banker he quit baking bread cause he doesn't wanna wear out his oven but needs a loan so he can have 2 ovens.

[@TheRestOfTheStory]

I dont have the time or crayons to explain my reasoning to you. So I guess you'll just be left wondering.

[@uhohspagettioh97531]

No crayons, call Crayola see if you and Ryan could get a demo. Your logic is illogical and without u tube i bet you would be tits up.

[@TheRestOfTheStory]

Well with that comment you're just jealous and venting. If you're that sad seek help mental health is an aspect of our lives that gets swept under the rug more often than not. If the videos upset you that much it's probably best to log off social media and go outside and get some air. Good luck.

[@uhohspagettioh97531]

Certainly not jealous im pointing out the obvious to us guys who farm successfully, Sometimes its obvious from the outside. To make light of other persons mental health issues is quite pathetic.