"Would you call this ethnic cleansing?" Palestine's ongoing catastrophe.

[@ProgIntl]

Great to work with comrades at Jacobin on this critical story. We hope The International can be a useful resource for progressive forces everywhere.

[@shainazion4073]

Great Lies!!!

[@CaptPeon]

​@@shainazion4073please, elaborate

[@shainazion4073]

@@CaptPeon Look up the word "ethnic cleansing" *Ethnic Cleansing* *_"1) The systemic elimination of an ethnic group or groups from a region or society, as by deportation, forced emigration or genocide."_* *_"2) The mass extermination or expulsion of people belonging to one ethnic or religious group by those of another,"_* The American Heritage Dictionary In 1948, there was 160,000 Arabs that stayed in Israel. Today there are over 2 million Arab citizens of Israel all with the same rights and benefits. Between 1947 and 1948, 600,000 to 700,000 Arabs fled their villages, most went to areas of the Mandate of Palestine that was not in the UN Partition Plan to be under Jewish control, such as Gaza, and the "West Bank". These people were still within the Mandate borders. There are over 5 million of these people in those lands today, and another 7 million people with Palestinian ancestry in other lands. The people who fled were not forced out by the Jews, most fled on their own. Over 300,000 fled before 1948. In fact, the early Jewish leaders appealed to the Arabs to stay in their houses and help them create a country together, they had 5 other Arab armies attack the one day old country of Israel. The Institute for Palestine Studies, an Arab organization based in Beirut stated, *68% of Arabs left their villages without ever seeing a Jewish man with a gun or a soldier* Search, *_"How we really became refugees, 13 Palestinians tell their personal stories"_* Mamoud Abbas and 12 others from all over Israel, tell the truth about why and how they left the villages and houses and it wasn't because of the Jews. In Ethnic Cleansing your population is supposed to go down, like the millions of American Native peoples forced from their original land, and the Europeans introduced small pox to the population to kill them, the 1 million Armenians Christians forced from Ottoman Empire lands, murdered in marches and left to die, the 800,000 Tutsi murdered in Rwanda, these are examples of ethnic cleansing. People who left on their own, and whose population only increased are not victims of ethnic cleansing!!

[@SaltyMsMorton]

Can’t tell you how hard it has been to get this sort of information in the US. Mainstream media is straight up gaslighting us.

[@mohammedsulemanpatel3849]

​@@shainazion4073. What you trying to say the WHOLE WORLD knows YOU'RE the BIGGEST LIARS ON THIS PLANET.

[@MrDizzy19]

This the stuff we need to be showed on tv real stories not bs reality shows

[@mikeeckert3166]

OMG, you do realize that the Onian is a parody site, don't you?

[@1May1312]

Free Palestine! 🇵🇸

[@victormeidan1062]

Free Narnia too !

[@Tragic.Kingdom]

From Hamas and Islamic jihad

[@susannicholson3255]

No place exists! Perhaps you should call for Palestinians to be free of Hamas.

[@shundi4264]

War crimes cannot be erased from history.

[@foolsfolly3476]

As a Irish émigré, we stand with the oppressed, the occupied, the downtrodden, the colonized we recognize its bruises, its wounds and it’s barbarity for what it is; opportunistic exploitation.✊

[@cosimodirondo972]

The Land rightfully belongs to the Jewish People.

[@foolsfolly3476]

@@cosimodirondo972 So lad, what university is the Ministry of foreign affairs sendin Ya to to spread this tripe? Hope it’s a good one to be propagatin the Hasbara for em.

[@cosimodirondo972]

@@foolsfolly3476 When two parties to a dispute go to court to settle their difference, the first words the judge utters are, "start from the beginning, and present any evidence you have." The 9th Century BCE archaeological find, the Mesha Stele, commissioned by the king of Moab (present-day Jordan), mentions Israel and a king of Israel, namely, Omri. The Mesha Stele is currently housed at the Louvre in Paris, France. If you claim that the land belongs to the "Palestinians" then it should be reflected in the archaeological records. Cite one archaeological evidence for the "Palestinians."

[@TheOneAndOnly61300]

So tell me, what about the Irish that emigrate to America? You don’t have an issue with living on land that belongs to Native Americans and Mexico? Just curious how deep your hypocrisy is.

[@cosimodirondo972]

@@TheOneAndOnly61300 They are hypocrites. When they came to the American shores, Irish mobs attacked AAs. See the Draft Riots in New York City in the 19th century.

[@Tristan-watermelon]

Excellent presentation of this serious issue. I support this struggle, as I support any struggle against oppression, be it political, economical or social.

[@Tragic.Kingdom]

Obviously your not familiar with the struggle of Palestinians by the oppression of Hamas and other Islamic entities

[@TheRealRobertG]

The fact that Jacobin was asking this question a week and a half before Israel even started leveling Gaza… says a lot.

[@SpeakerOfTruth444]

Israel has occupied Palestine for 75 years like Hitler's Nazi Germany. She's talking about the 75-year anniversary of the Nakba (Catastrophe of occupation.) Pay attention.

[@TheRealRobertG]

@@SpeakerOfTruth444 why are you telling me this?

[@ZarkowsWorld]

​@@SpeakerOfTruth444 Only a mentally handicapped person fails to see their ignorance what Palestine as a location means (hint: not an Arabic word) and think that any land was occupied as if it belonged to some other nation that still try to run it.

[@harveyburgess1898]

Excellent work, congratulations to all involved. Free Free Palestine.

[@rebeccariley2803]

ok loser

[@michaelmaiara4770]

One thing that I very rarely see discussed is that if the Arab side had won in the Arab-Israeli War, there most probably would not have been a Palestinian state established. Palestine would have been split between Jordan and Egypt in that case.

[@emil6669]

As a Russian who lives in Israel, I support wholeheartedly the Palestinian people and hope one day, religion and money and corrupt politics will be abolished and people live in peace under Democratic and Meritocratic values.

[@DwainDwight]

Bless you and all Palestinians. my heart weeps deeply for all of you.

[@heinrichvon]

It's significant that this was posted *before* the recent crisis. It's a primer of sorts for all people, particularly Americans, who are woefully ignorant of the history and the current situation in Palestine.

[@cisman]

Great work, thanks for summing up the events in a short video.

[@mattg3789]

Good information in the video, but unfortunately, it is very slanted. More of a propaganda piece than documentary. It doesn't elaborate on the ongoing Muslim violence against Jews during the British control and occupation of the territory. The viewer is incorrectly given the impression that the Zionists and British government jointly began discriminating against Muslims and using physical force to take land away. The UN established Israel as an independent nation in 1947, not the Zionists. Muslims continued to live in the territory after 1947 as Israeli citizens, and have the same rights as Jewish citizens. So it isn't apartheid. Any land that was "stolen" occurred when Israel and Jews were responding to Muslim attacks. While some appropriation during these various time-frames was unjust and illegal, some can be justified as an act of self-defense. Palestinians govern the impoverished territories mentioned in the video, and Israeli attacks on the areas was done for self-defense reasons.

[@alexredeemed]

Great work it summarized and shed light of dark history that is forgotten that we all need to know in order understand acknowledge what s going on now keep it up great video and work

[@vratyasvakyas6022]

Thank you for bringing attention to this grave injustice. 🇵🇸

[@usernamecopied1693]

Do you support Hamas

[@abracadabra42]

Muslims did the same to a lot of indigenous people around the world.. no sympathy for them

[@rimworld64]

@@usernamecopied1693 supporting the liberation of palestine and hamas arent one and the same? Hamas has made itself a villain, the palestinians amd their cause has not. Let us not forget that israel has engaged in the ethnic cleansing of over 500 palestinian villages during the nakba. This does not mean i dont support jewish people, it means i f****** hate israel and its government.

[@khava007]

Hamas is evil..satanic..dajal...

[@patricksweeney6334]

@@usernamecopied1693 "Do you support Hamas" Probably not. Do you have a *legitimate* question?

[@stacyalderman2352]

This is powerful accounting of Palestinian history. A history of destruction and erasure not unlike that of indigenous people of USA.

[@davida.rodriguez8870]

Thanks for sharing. As a Puerto Rican from the island, who is a product of colonialism and imperialism and lived within the disastrous consequences of it… I stand by Palestine peoples and it’s innocent civilians.

[@ErroneousMonk1]

Oh come on. I love the oppression olympics when it comes on TV every few months. What are the "disastrous consequences" in Puerto Rico?

[@jonlenihan4798]

Puerto Rico would starve without the US connection. Arab Palestine is one of the failed Arab colonial societies that stretch from Algeria to Iraq. All are violent, backwards, and mostly poor.

[@squirrelsinmykoolaid]

​@@ErroneousMonk1How about you read a book and find out instead of being passive-aggressive on the internet?

[@ErroneousMonk1]

@@squirrelsinmykoolaid Nope. I’ll let the people making the claim educate me. Enough of this “educate yourself” bullshit. I’m done with you lazy fucktards telling me to help you prove your points.

[@foolsfolly3476]

@@ErroneousMonk1 Cornelius Packard “Dusty” Rhoads, BIG quotes “MD” somethin to get ya started lad.

[@yusufraage8554]

“If one has to refer to any of the parties as a terrorist state, one might refer to the Israeli government, because they are the people who are slaughtering defenseless and innocent Arabs in the occupied [Palestinian] territories, and we don’t regard that as acceptable.” Nelson Mandela (1990)

[@kman5768]

Extremely sad. I can see and feel the pain of the presenter.

[@MrDizzy19]

This really hurts my heart man

[@Charlie-phlezk]

I'm glad this video was published before October 7th

[@abdulkaderahmed5491]

Brilliant program

[@BillMurey-om3zw]

Free Palestine

[@keevancrawford6708]

Y’all really need to be advertising these videos on Twitter and KZbin

[@englishlit0171]

Free Palestine!

[@stuarthamilton3832]

Thanks for this. ☝🏾

[@bonellinick]

Thank you. This explains the current situation more succinctly than any other video I have come across.

[@Rodrifuuu]

Oh wow, I had this in my recommendations. I have been subscribed for years and never got any Jacobin content recommended. I wonder if the algorithm glitched.

[@MegaKerrigan]

Nice to see Jacobin & Progressive International pick up the slack where Gravel Institute left off since it stop producing videos & became an dead KZbin channel.

[@ShawnAfhraf]

Thank you for your truth sister

[@hainish2381]

Stay strong, we stand in solidarity! ♥

[@FatFrankie42]

🇵🇸 #FreePalestine

[@noahherfort3119]

Thank you comrades. An excellent, highly informative production. Free Palestine!

[@laowai769]

Great video, so sad this perspective doesn't get shown more

[@ErroneousMonk1]

Yeah, more people should lie blatantly.

[@anthonyweller3077]

Do like I do, share and share often 😊

[@nugglife3035]

Anyone referring to Israel as a democracy is a fool.

[@FrankBarat77]

This is great.

[@ebrimajabbi5054]

Free Palestine 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸

[@MrTwenty20video]

I really appreciate the history report. 🙏 ✌️

[@j2shoes288]

White European settlers. Americas, Australia, etc etc and now Palestine

[@Cristobels-Green-Boots]

A calm, considered History Lesson: PAY ATTENTION! 🙏🏻🇵🇸🙏🏽

[@kenzovich9225]

The Palestinian people are the most courageous, hard working, kindest people i've met. I can not immagine the immense strength it takes to fight 75 year for the recognition of being humans and being worthy of having their own state. Free Palestine!

[@victormeidan1062]

No, they do NOT exist & never will. You are talking about JORDANIANs who simply threw away their passports & ID cards in the 1970s. This was done for strategic reasons ie to hood wink the World that they are "stateless".

[@cristinabutasimon9159]

they were offered statehood 5 times. they refused it.

[@ErroneousMonk1]

@@cristinabutasimon9159 Well you beat me to it. The first time, Arabs were offered 90% of the land. They refused. And each time they refused, they followed that up by attacking Israel along with their muslim brothers in surrounding countries. And each time, Israel won. And each time Israel gained territory and each time Israel gave it back, thinking it would buy peace. And each time Israel was wrong.

[@kenzovich9225]

Why are you lying like i wouldn't be able to do a simple google search and see that 62% of the land was offered to the zionists even though the palestinians were 2x their population? And what does it tell you when you figure out that the zionists got all of the weapons the Brits left behind? The only way to win the war was because of those weapons. Zionists were handed the land by the brits and palestinians had to pay the price in blood. Im sure you heard it a million times but here it is again. Without western military backing Israel wouldn't exist, no matter at which point in history you look at. Now i wouldn't even be in favor of a scenario in which Israel gets destroyed without the help of western powers. It would be way better if the gouvernment of Israel would finally start to seriously negotiate a solution with the palestinians, because every time it got to that point, their right wing politicians found a way to stop it. Even killing their own fellow Israelis like Yitzhak Rabin.@@ErroneousMonk1

[@Tamariasmr]

@@ErroneousMonk1thank you

[@korvus13]

Excelente lección histórica, muy necesaria para estas sociedades abrumadas por la desinformación y el oscurantismo hegemónico imperial. Nos hermanamos al pueblo Palestino ¡PALESTINA LIBRE YÁ"

[@markorourke5901]

Incredibly informative, thank you, I know a lot of this but learning more every day -)

[@adayinforever]

This video is very prescient considering what has happened over the past past week and just 2 weeks after this video

[@PhotoMakeupFactory]

😢this history hurts to hear

[@beverlywelo]

It is absolutely ethnic cleansing

[@shainazion4073]

Really? Yes, the Jews were ethnically cleansed from all Arab amd Muslim lands, while there are 2 million Arab citizens in Israel, 1.8 million Muslim citizens of Israel!

[@agustoendo7471]

I can't watch this video more than 10 minutes. This make sick; this keep happening all over the world in many different ways.

[@joseponce8267]

Viva Palestina

[@Pax2023]

Americans are hypocrites. We condemn ethnic cleansing in Dafur, and we condemn ethnic cleansing against the Royhiga people by the military of Mrymar. But not when Israeli's carry out the same policies against the Palestinians.

[@jaialaiwarrior]

You guys must be really proud of your leaders.

[@smartentertainment9574]

May God(Allah) have mercy on Palestinian people and all those oppressed humanity and help them to be liberated from evil and brutal oppressers. Ameen sumameen ya rabulalameen.

[@AnthonyTinder]

- To answer your first question. I would call it 1923 Turkey-Greece or 1947, Pakistan-India. It isn't unique by any means. Ethnic cleansing has a sense of systemic killing. Populations were transferred, there were riots, clashes, and acts of violence. People died and others were held in camps. - Ben Gurion never referred to it as transfer of indigenous people but rather the transfer of Arabs -- again this was no different from the theorists behind 1923 Turkey and 1947 India: Mustafa Kemal, Mohammad Ali Jinnah. What does indigenous even mean? The Jews held this area far before Islam was even a thing. - Deprived of their homes, their land, and their livelihoods and in some cases their lives. Again, I'll point you to 1923 and 1947. In the case of 1947, it is considered Islamophobic for to even suggest that non-Muslims should be allowed back into Pakistan and the idea of Pakistan is unethical, unjust, etc. - The desert bloom: In all the Empires that occupied this area, not one made Jerusalem their capital. Much of what is Israel today was uncultivated and a barren desert. Israel developed desalination of water at an industrial scale. They were able to grow the Eden Gold, a pear that can withstand harsh desert climates. - On one hand you set up the story of settler colonialism -- that the Jews came from Europe and settled in the area. And on the other you suggest that Christians, Jews, and Muslims always lived in harmony in the area. The truth is, while people of these three religions did live in this area, they did not live in peace. Look at Hebron in 1929. - Again you're adding words to what Gurion and Herzel said. Herzel's words were: "We shall try to spirit the penniless population across the border by procuring employment for it in the transit countries, while denying it any employment in our own country." Again, not the "native" population. It is almost like you're trying to draw a parallel between the Trail of Tears, like the Jews wanted to drag the Arabs out. Rather, the Arabs were nomadic and moved in and out based on employment. By giving them employment outside of Israel, you are able to create clear and peaceful areas for both peoples. - Did the British support Zionism for their own benefit? Yes. But did the British help accelerate Jewish population in the area? Absolutely not! The British mandated that no more than 15K Jews could enter the area every year and that was in 1939 during the Holocaust. The White Paper, what this policy became known as, also limited the rights of Jews to buy land from the Arabs. - Turkish Christians in Greece do not refer to themselves as Turks in exile, neither do the Muslim Greeks in Turkey. Same could be said about the people impacted by the Partition in India. So why do those impacted by the transfer of populations in this region refer to themselves as Palestinians in exile? Why does a group of people, if it is true that they coexisted with Jews in the past, refuse to coexist with them today? Why should a group of people, who can trace their past to a region and who have suffered a holocaust, not be able to keep the nation that they have?

[@larry3591]

Awsome

[@prschuster]

How could anyone believe the lie that any land on this Earth was uninhabited? Antarctica is the only unpopulated land on Earth. A statement like this is a huge red flag.

[@alfred-vz8ti]

1n 1925, ze'ev jabotinsky announced the formation of the 'jewish national army' and told non-jews they must leave. clearly, he wasn't kidding.

[@baloog8]

1200 killed, 600 children. Thats about as indiscriminate as it gets. Ethnic cleansing, not strategic military operations.

[@anthonymorris5084]

The people of Gaza are not an ethnic group. They are Arab. Exactly what should Israel do when their citizens are mindlessly slaughtered? Wave their fingers and call Hamas naughty? Your post is veiled antisemitism.

[@sbgskf]

The ethnic-cleansing of Palestine started BEFORE 1948. Ilan Pappe's "THE ETHNIC-CLEANSING OF PALESTINE" documents this clearly.

[@shainazion4073]

Another liar and propagandist.

[@nurulhasan3953]

#freepalestine

[@THEPBFELIPE]

A strong and urgent narrative.

[@Londonchippie]

This actually happened to my people. 14 million of them in fact when the British acquiesced to Muslims violent demands for a homeland to be carved out of my homeland, India

[@cajunswede]

🌹🇵🇸

[@stevesmith7839]

It's not the colonial settler's ancestral homeland. Their ancestral homeland is the area between the Caspian Sea and the Black Sea, once the home of the Khazars which converted to Judaism in the Middle Ages and were driven from their homeland into Europe a couple hundred years later. They are not the Hebrews of the Bible. I don't believe that there is any other recorded mass migration of Jews to Europe.

[@anthonymorris5084]

What difference does any of that make? They are still Jewish, worshipping the same God. Are you against the current mass migration occurring across the world? Should we send everybody back? After all Europe isn't their ancestral homeland.

[@coderamen666]

Don't lie please. I'm tired of people saying shit like this. The truth is bad enough

[@siddharthdhira1543]

So eloquent, Looking forward to seeing more in-depth explorations like this one

[@maestoso47]

How come OIC countries don’t come to Palestine’s aid?

[@Ianpact]

Thank you, Jacobin.

[@leggomuhgreggo]

Solid

[@HarveyBelcher-m1z]

Great video ❤🙏

[@Ko-vb9mq]

Wait, Jacobin is back on KZbin?! When did this happen?

[@trogdor8942]

What about the ethnic cleansing of the Jews of the middle east after the Nakba? No one ever mentions that. Israel took in refugees from all around the world and only Jordan took in Palestinian refugees snd gave them permanent residence.

[@VintageBabyOx]

Did it ever occur to you that Israel was building a jewish state and called upon jews from around the world so they left freely, even if that was the case what does that have to do with the Palestinians? Also why wouldn't Jordan take in Palestinians they're literally neighbouring countries. Muslims have no issue with jews but zionism is disgusting.

[@trogdor8942]

@@VintageBabyOx other Muslim countries did not though which is my point. Because of Zionism Muslim countries started to have issues with Jews, which is why there are very few Jews left in Muslim countries. They were either kicked out or voluntarily left for Israel. Israel also took in persecuted Jews from the USSR and Ethiopia.

[@petergiaschi35]

Heartbreaking. This is history my erudite Canadian friends refuse to acknowledge.

[@crane4515]

Nice job. This is good work.

[@victormeidan1062]

No it is craapy 3rd rate propaganda. All funded by the Iranian Mullahs

[@alexross5714]

Great documentary, but - didn't you know? - defending the human rights of Palestinians makes you anti-Semitic, according to the political elites in both American parties.

[@Dmwntkp99]

It's not forgetting history doomed to repeat it, but how history is viewed and manipulated for justification.

[@jaialaiwarrior]

How productive was the land beforehand? Why was malaria endemic? Palestinian nationalism is so grim. You need happier leaders!

[@maryl8753]

You are so ignorant and racist😅 Malaria was not eradicated from EUROPE until late 19th century same time this colonial project got going. If you're going to try and denigrate something at least get your facts straight

[@sadikaden5468]

new sub frm Africa thnx 4 good pis of knowledge given.

[@nelsonramos4034]

I call that,injustice with ours brothers and sisters Palestinians.

[@marcgradycole3523]

Great video. Thank you. W Palestine!!

[@adayinforever]

6:55 this man sounds like he's speaking through some high pitched voice filter. 😂

[@charlesmrader]

I have a different opinion about this. I am old enough that I was of an age of reason when Palestine was partitioned. late 1947. I was eight years old. I know that before that event, Jews were vastly outnumbered in Palestine by "Palestinians" and that there were serious ethnic tensions between the two groups, and that the governing authority was the British. I know that the British wanted to leave, to rid themselves of the job of policing that conflict. I know that the UN declared the partition, and that the UN tried to give Palestinians most of the land where they were a majority, which was most of the populated land. They also gave the Jews, for their state, the bit of land where they were most numerous. A lot of Palestine was desert, where almost nobody lived. That shouldn't have mattered that much, but the UN gave most of that desert to the Jewish state. I also know that immediately after the partition, the Jews in the new Jewish state declared that they accepted the partition. The Arabs in the new "Palestinian" state did not. They were clearly dissatisfied. And they were supported in this dissatisfaction by all the surrounding countries, which had governments, armies, etc. Here is what shocks me. The Palestinians had to know that just weeks before, the British colony that is now India and Pakistan had obtained independence from Britain without violence. The successful model of how to achieve independence without violence was used my Mohandas (Mahatma) Ghandi. It clearly worked. So just a few weeks later, why did the Palestinians use violence rather than Ghandi's model? I pose that as a question, but there is a probable answer. With their greater numbers and their support by powerful neighboring Muslim countries, they may have thought that violence would solve their dissatisfaction quickly. The subsequent seventy five years have shown that, whatever else any one can say, the military response was not able to solve their satisfaction quickly - it has lasted longer than almost any other conflict, and the Palestinians' situation (and dissatisfaction) have gotten progressively worse. I think that every instance of Palestinian violence against Israel has made things worse for them. Meanwhile, the Jews in Palestine, now Israel, have gone from poor and powerless to prosperous and powerful. Is it too late for Palestinians to change their strategy?

[@Thursrain85]

For someone of age back then, you should have already known Palestinians are an indigenous arab group, compromising of Christians, Jews and Muslims. Although muslim Palestinians outnumbered both jewish and Christian Palestinians, that said, before Zionists took over, all 3 religions lived side by side for centuries as Palestinians. It was the goal of the Zionist movement to bring Ashkenazi white western jews into Palestine to make it a predominately white jewish majority and create a new state, Israel. For your other point, colonialism has always been brutal as history tells us, The 1948 Nakba. Throughout the decades Palestinians have tried to get their land back via wars as well as peaceful methods, neither have worked so far given western imperial bolstering to keep the idea of Israel going purely for western interest that have little to do with religion or care for either religions.

[@Salman-sc8gr]

They did 1109 and blamed it on Caveman in Afghanistan. The wars on Iraq, Libya and Syria were all on behalf of the Israelis with the final attack on Iran that they wish to.

[@alexandrostheodorou8387]

So whats the solution?

[@satsatdown]

Hebron massacre?

[@ericarbib4183]

That is exactly what happened to us, Jews of Libya.

[@MbisonBalrog]

Who is presenter?

[@MrYomama1009]

Thank You for this great work🙏

[@apastasauce5905]

This comment section is The Spider-Man meme of 6 Spider-Man’s all pointing fingers at each other

[@WilliamsCabrera-z2z]

Buen reportaje

[@earliedennis178]

European Jews act strangely like regular Europeans

[@KD--sj8eo]

Insightful!

[@selwinpandinadan7540]

Tamilar is in solidarity with the Palestine and all her beautiful people. Tamilar would never ever forget nor forgive the genocide of the Sri Lankan Tamil that the Zionist aided. Long live Palestine, Long live the Dravidian Nations.❤

[@ja1111112]

„Would you call this ethnic cleansing?” Ukraine's ongoing catastrophe.

[@meilechl]

It was certainly ethnic cleansing when Gaza was made yudenrein in 2005. Today many parts of the West Bank are prohibited for Jews to enter. Ethnic cleansing.

[@DzogChen2]

From my understanding of the events of 1948 the Israeli armed forces were equipped by the Soviet Union and Czechoslovakia with WWII era Nazi German armaments. And it was the British and French imperialists that supplied the armaments to the surrounding Arab armies. Likewise back in the day progressive arabs saw the intervention by the surrounding Arab countries as an invasion as the last thing those countries wanted was an independent Palestinian state right on their borders! As it was Jordan seized control of the West Bank and Egypt seized control of Gaza. If this is wrong then please correct my interpretation of events!

[@rimworld64]

Dude. Britain helped found israel, why would they fund arab armies against it? In addition, the soviets did not give military aid to israel, though they were the first to recognize it's sovereignty.

[@shainazion4073]

Yes, they helped back in 1917, then took the side of the Arabs quickly as that's where the oil came from.

[@rimworld64]

@@shainazion4073 britain occupied palestine in 1922, in 1917 they declared the balfour declaration, then, up until 1948 at the least, they were on the side of israel, why? Because israel wasnt a country up until then. THE LAND WAS STILL OCCUPIED BY BRITAIN. Do some gosh darn research please. The amount of historical illiteracy on this site is killing me bro.

[@shainazion4073]

@@rimworld64 No, there was nothing called Palestine legally until the League of Nations renamed the Area as the Mandate of Palestine. The Ottoman rulers had nothing called Palestine for 400 years of their rule. They had 3 - 5 Sanjaks (provinces) over the years based on populations and not one called Palestine. The Sanjaks were ruled by the Ayelet (region) of Damascus, Syria.

[@shainazion4073]

@@rimworld64 The British did not occupy Palestine, as there was no Palestine to occupy. The land was former Ottoman land, not ever Palestinian lands. The Ottomans signed their lands over to the Allies after WW1. The Allies turned the responsibility of the lands over to the League of Nations in order to create new countries. The British were made the administrators over the Mandate of Palestine. The British illegally gave 77% of the land of the Mandate to the Arab Hashemites to become trans-Jordan, leaving only 23% to become the future Jewish state. The Entire League of Nations voted unanimously for; *_"Whereas recognition has thereby been given to the historical connection of the Jewish people with Palestine and to the grounds for reconstituting their national home in that country"_*

[@grahamdavis820]

We should now just call Gaza what it has become...the Gaza Ghetto.

[@barrowsgang]

People of Palestine, I am a descendant of the European Caucasian people. My people are a great people but very susceptible to Jewish propaganda. I, unlike the majority, do not accept nor believe the Zionist propaganda. However, as I stated, my people have fallen to sleep under the constant barrage of Zionist fairytales. I saw your story during the conflict that started 2 days ago in this October. I believe you! I'm not alone but the Zionist's threat of being labeled "antisemitic" they buckle and crawl on their bellies. At my advanced age all I can offer you is belief in you and wishing you success in your struggle to one day oust the jew criminals and reclaim what is rightfully yours. May God that you believe in bless you and yours and give victory to the Palestinian people. God Bless You All.

[@shainazion4073]

You are susceptible to Arab lies and propaganda!!

[@Tragic.Kingdom]

#jewishnaqba #kashmiripanditnaqba #punjabinaqba #sindhinaqba #bengalinaqba #yezidinaqba #samaritannaqba #parsinaqba #bahainaqba #salmanrushdienaqba #tasleemanasrinnaqba #apostatesofislamnaqba #whiteflightnaqba #ahmaddiyyanaqba #asiabibinaqba #nigerianchristiannaqba #sudanesechristiannaqba #algerianjewishnaqba Gosh ....this list goes on 🙏🏼 .....wooohoooo this lost hoes on

[@X2LR8]

The land belongs to Israel. This goes back to very ancient times.

[@anthonyweller3077]

Share, share often from the river to the sea Palestine will be free

[@MarkPiccolo]

Just like armenians by the ottomans in 1915 and the yazidi genocide and also the greatest mass genocide in history of Hindus in the 16th century as well

[@samiaazad1093]

Free Palestine 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸

[@fabiodeoliveiraribeiro1602]

The weight of the infamy committed by Israel is historical, but this does not mean that Israelis cannot settle accounts with the past by recognizing the evil they committed. The crimes committed by Zionists can be forgiven if Zionism dissolves itself and Israeli soldiers stop committing crimes and repair the damage they have done. A future of peace is possible, but not with Netanyahu and other maniacs like him commanding systematic brutality dehumanizing Palestinians. South Africa's apartheid seemed strong and irrevocable, but it contained the seeds of its own destruction. The defeat of the apartheid created by the Zionists in Israel will occur tomorrow or the day after. The Israelis can shorten the existence of this monstrosity. They can, but for now they don't want to. Unfortunately.