WoW Classic: Burning Crusade Class/Spec Overviews | Classic TBC

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

What class(es) will you play in Classic TBC and why? Let us know! Timestamps: 0:00 - Introduction 0:46 - Class Balance & Metas 3:08 - Druids 7:28 - Hunters 11:51 - Mages 17:05 - Paladins 23:29 - Priests 30:47 - Rogues 34:39 - Shaman 42:25 - Warlocks 45:41 - Warriors 50:20 - Play What you Want! 52:07 - TBC Classic Resources Errata: 13:02 - Arcane Blast is NOT the 41 Arcane Talent, all Mages get it

[@hazard7116]

Warrior mace stun PvP build with stormherald hahaha

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

@@hazard7116 hell yeah!

[@Gijs9114]

we can't say thank you enough for posting these sections!

[@damnsurfer522]

I just want to know if your guys guild raiding rule will be all 25 raiders have to have LW?

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

@@damnsurfer522 I go with what my guild wants and since 95% are very hardcore, it will likely be the norm

[@kristopherneely8431]

As of Blizzconline today they stated that Seal of Blood and Seal of Vengeance will be available to both factions at max level.

[@fiarusgaming3420]

Well that's stupid

[@Crase1986]

And with that, Humans become perhaps the strongest race for Ret. 5 free Expertise on maces and swords, Perception, etc.

[@joshuadavis8265]

That’s how it was back in the day. They called it “seal of the martyr” for alliance

[@PowderedToastMaaaan]

I noticed something watching this video. Instead of implementing a bunch of fluffy, hard to balance BS that really doesn't matter in future expansions (borrowed powers, "new systems", etc.) they focused on making the classes play better. They looked at their weaknesses and implemented changes to the CLASS that allowed it to viable in both pvp and pve. This is what Actiblizzard is failing to accomplish with retail wow and this is why I ( and a lot of others ) loved TBC. I really can't wait to play it and it's probably where I'll stay for a long time.

[@jthiggins4886]

Until wotlk comes out. They just doing a rerun of the game lol. But I’m not complaining. Until after cata then ima be pissed again lo

[@benjaminjacobs5382]

I think another notable difference is how they approached class viability and balance. They didn't just flat buff everyone, try to make every single class pump massive damage, or use pure dps output as the driver of balance. They made underserved specs like shadow priest or boomkin do more damage, sure, but they also made them bring valuable support and gave them enough damage along with those utilities to make them desirable. Spriests never pump as hard as locks in BC, but they're brought to every raid because they keep everyone's mana up and do enough dps that taking advantage of that utility is a buff to the raid, not a burden. This works in the opposite direction, too; warlocks and hunters may not provide the best party buffs like a shaman or druid might provide, but they do the big damage and can benefit from the support classes. If the big support classes also put out the top dmg, classes like warlocks may not have a spot. Blizzard gave everyone different strengths and weaknesses, so players can find a spot in most content with most classes and specs. You can see these differences even in tank balance; warriors are probably the strongest in terms of damage mitigation and raid boss tanking, but pallys are exceptionally strong in AoE threat generation, making them strong in dungeons/trash/etc. There isn't just one factor affecting their balance, so all of the tanks are desirable. In retail, things like a dps spec's mana bar is just for show, and they have to constantly tweak class damage output b/c there is very little value in party support. Nothing but damage affects class balance (from a dps perspective). This is why the specs that aren't at the very top of sims are denied from raids/PUGs in retail and why all high end players play the exact same specs; damage is the only thing that matters and sims dictate the metas. Makes for a boring spread when choosing a class. IMO, class homogenization has been one of the worst things to result from blizzards 'bring the player, not the class' philosophy.

[@Carpatouille]

@@jthiggins4886 Why would you, by then every expansion will be released and you'll play where you want

[@hugotopping]

This video should play after you install TBC - absolutely essential viewing 10/10

[@bebl]

Nothing better than grinding in Classic WoW and listening to Defcamp & Meldereon

[@TenzinJenkins]

Lol, I'm literally fishing in-game listening to this video

[@bithon5242]

sex?

[@bebl]

@@bithon5242 sometimes

[@joshuaroe1402]

@@bithon5242 My lawyer says that I shouldn't answer this question.

[@GrimlicTV]

hunters can also trap in combat in TBC. big buff to their CC and also allows you keep feign death CD as an interrupt

[@shml5231]

Their dead zone is also reduced

[@CreamyPesto505]

Yeah, these guys really didn't give hunters the props they deserve in PvP. I ran Hunter/Druid/Warrior at a competitive level for all of TBC. We only hit a wall around 2.5k, when RMP was basically like 98% of what we faced. Granted, that was in the meta of 12-13 years ago. I'm sure it's changed drastically since then.

[@spencers1485]

@@CreamyPesto505 im surprised rmp gave you that much trouble. Hunters used to eat mages alive. I was druid/lock/hunter and we loved farming rmp. I dont think the meta will change that much in classic tbc. I guess it depends hiw they roll out class changes. I remember season 3 combat rogues were absolutely nasty. There was alot of balancing all tbc. They also nerfrd sl/sl. I think ice mage was consistent the whole time. Hunters had some weird autoshot macro thing too.

[@DaveTheGamer-detailedguides]

man that was a super detailed breakdown thank you for that!

[@shinon748]

Blood elf ret paladin. It was my first character for WoW years back when TBC was the current expansion.

[@killswitchfate]

In-depth spec analysis of TBC is exactly what ive been looking for. Thanks

[@Zach-bi7bq]

Great presentation. This feels like a Blizzcon session.

[@sugarspice7746]

I had a feeling Melderon was going to be the one to talk about the Shaman lol

[@staplesfoley]

Can't wait, been maining a druid all classic just waiting for TBC, though I have been able to pump now in classic too with regrowth/natures grace

[@supersolenoid]

Very complete and well done - one of the best source material for anyone's research on the matter.

[@hvdiv17]

tbc was the best expansion to me i cant wait to re play it do some heroic dungeons and pawn and own people in bgs on my enhancement shaman. they are pretty much following private server patches so im sure it will be 2.4.3 because thats what private servers use.

[@tropzx]

@Salterino Kripperino wrong

[@LikeVenom18]

@Salterino Kripperino i think your name says it all - you've actually made an account just to sh!t post in some streamer's, that you adore and fanboy so much, comment section in order to grab his attention. subjectively, TBC was the best expansion (and wow version) they ever made. it was a HUGE upgrade over vanilla and it's one of the primary reasons why classic even became a thing. objectively, WOTLK was the best wow version, followed by TBC.

[@magicc1204]

i havent played classic in like 6 months but i still cant help but watch your guys' videos everytime you upload. i fucking love classic wow , i just cant get myself to play it anymore

[@BlazzinBobby]

So the other day I was thinking to myself why did I use thrown weapons as a rogue in Wrath. HA! Question answered, deadly throw!

[@Mammel248]

You should use a throwing weapon as well in TBC, even as a Warrior ;) Throwing weapons throw faster than bows/guns fire so they're better for spell pushback when sitting in nova or something

[@Mammel248]

@O K Go watch any pro warrior/rogue TBCC pvp streamer and see what type of ranged weapon they are using Btw in case you are a total noob (seems like it), there are tons of throwing weapons with great stats in TBC, especially for pvp (have you even looked at the pvp ranged weapons? the throwing weapon has 1 less crit and 2 less AP than the xbow, for 2.75k less arena points AND no rating requirement) Just looking at the item cost makes it obvious that even Blizzard intended the pvp throwing weapons for rogues/warriors and the other ranged weapons for hunters

[@johanlahti84]

Druid, feral dps/tank. I fell in love with the feral druid back in vanilla. And every chance i get in classic i respec full feral to pvp/farm.

[@johanlahti84]

@Brian ? we have a feral allready. You sir, need to calm down and enjoy the game.

[@LikeVenom18]

@Brian feral in vanilla is only a shadow of a feral in TBC. these are the 2 vastly different classes. i've been maining druid ever since i started playing the game back on the original TBC, reaching high ratings on several expansions after TBC (2400-2800) and i couldn't bring myself to play the class in classic. druids are just so unenjoyable to PVP with, so yes, i completely understand why someone is waiting for TBC to play (a) class(es) that utterly suck in classic or are just straight up boring and unenjoyable to play.

[@BlazzinBobby]

Wow, this is a incredible video! So much info! I'll be adding it to favorites and watching it a number of times before TBC.

[@montoneas9618]

great video super thought out and well executed

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

TY!

[@ReMouRN]

Impressively well put together and detailed.

[@gentoolive]

Will be playing a lock, as i did the first time around.

[@britneyspheres7yearsago11]

Improved Syphon soul mana regen leveling with a soul shard deletion macro

[@rockingDuck]

same here, didnt get to experience the full content back then

[@Caligulove]

Great overview, guys! Can't wait for TBC. Going to pairing my current frost mage with my rogue buddy. and can't wait to main priest in raids. Keybinding and grinding, baby!

[@keenzo1998]

hopefully not shadow priest LULW

[@Caligulove]

@@keenzo1998 lmao no. I'm a healer at heart

[@shrewbydoo]

Warrior shaman hunter paladin..I can't decide, great video !

[@ziadnasr4558]

Hunters are tier “S” in arena especially after season 1. The problem it needs really high skill cap more than any other class. They really can compete for rank 1 in 2s (with resto druid) and 3s (with disc priest/resto druid) which counter RMP easily. A great hunter gameplay will depend on draining and prolonging the games by kiting around the frost trap and using silencing shot/viper sting efficiently. They can provide endless cc with their druid by scatter trap comp in the dps, then track the healer until he’s oom, which is boring tbh but they are very solid class in arena. I believe we’ll have more hunters in PVP as the skill cap is increased comparing to 12-13 years back.

[@ziadnasr4558]

@@4ndr3cm they do go BM in season 1. After that BM only works for certain comps which aren’t tier “S”. The problem for BM is that it’s gameplay depend on high bursting using “Bestial Wrath”, which when you face high skilled teams they will know how to reduce its effect by kiting or using defensive cds. After “Bestial Wrath” BM hunters don’t have much in their pockets and will be an easy target to be killed. Another common idea vs BM hunters is killing their pets. If this happens you’ll have a hard life especially if they’ll sit on you to not let you raise your pet again. Overall, you have to be MM hunter (or survival) if you’re aiming for gladiator rank 2v2/3v3. Not sure about 5v5 but I think BM is valuable there.

[@alext5497]

Hmmm. I might roll a hunter for the first time ever after reading this

[@NeinnLive]

lol hunters being tier s.... that’s funny

[@ziadnasr4558]

@@NeinnLive Well I see ur point of finding this funny. But I’m strictly speaking about god hunters, which there aren’t many of them. I’ll talk about 2s now as I’m more aware of it (hunter/druid). The most important aspect for hunters is being alive for long time. Once that happens they’ll have an advantage over all other comps (debatable vs lock/druid, lock/shaman). Hunter/druid counters or at least have considerable advantage vs many of the most famous comps in 2s. They shit on warrior/druid, have a great dominance vs the best comp in TBC (rogue/druid). Also against disc priests comp (either with rogue/mage/lock/warrior) as viper is a great threat. Actually they have advantage over all dps/healer comps (except for lock/shaman & lock/druid who have slight advantage against them. But still they’re winnable games, I’ll say 60%/40% for lock comps). The main problem for hunter/druid are 2 dps comps. They are hand countered by lock/rogue, spriest/rogue and slightly less against mage/rogue. All TBC comps have counters. But the least counters you have, the more powerful your comp is. Technically speaking, I believe hunter/druid is the second strongest comp in 2s after rogue/druid (from s2 to s4. Hunters suck in season 1).

[@NeinnLive]

@@ziadnasr4558 i agree with many points but the number of melee combs is too damn high or it was back then. So we will see it in the future. To me, hunter combos will be on the 5th-6th place. Sorry.

[@VibingViking117]

Can't wait to watch this tomorrow on lunch break! You have no idea how appreciated your videos are. Thanks for being a great escape from reality for a bit as always! Hit that like for these bros!

[@Castnine]

Druid healing for pvp pairs well with resilience as the stat helps bring down burst potential giving HoTs time to tick. Add LoS and move speed you have an annoyance

[@BM-is5ei]

SL was so op. Dot, dot, dot, fear, drain life, win.

[@CSSX80]

Mass dispell fear warden counter fear into a hunter trap burst other teams healer counter win.

[@superlenpants]

Loved the vid, especially about playing what you like. Gonna stick with my warrior. Picked it cause it looked cool, and I wont stop!

[@Bondokill]

Love you guys, hope all is well

[@Ixnatifual]

The time traveling aspects of Silencing Shot are very exciting!

[@CrixGuides]

Perfect Video Man. Love to see all the TBC hype.

[@theshaman415]

Aww it's good to be back just to see a quality video in your feed

[@BURRDAWG_]

Great vid. I been grinding up a shaman for TBC next is a drood

[@brandungmedia]

Very nice class overview. There are so many things I forgot about TBC. I wasnt hyped for TBC at all, but now that you guys bring all the information, I get more and more excited. Keep it up!

[@thelastshallbefirst3653]

Liked before I watched. Awesome guide!

[@dharmabum1212]

Cant decide between: Mage, spriest, shaman and druid. Gonna try some pservers and see how fun they are. Nice vid!

[@gabbeg7829]

Thanks for the timestamps you absolute legend(s)

[@Jersey0054]

Overview for priests: (coming from top 100 raiding guild Hpriest TBC and close to season 2 gladiator) For PVP you will almost always be the kill target. Disc priest only have a few good comps to play in 2s and 3s. RMP was on the best comp in 3s, but takes a lot of time to get communication down to beat cleave comps that take almost no real communication. The skill curve is higher. There are better healers than a priest for 5s, and won’t be used in 5s. For shadow priests will have even less comps. Only play some types of dot cleave teams, playing with affi locks and unholy dks. For PVE, in competitive raiding guilds. Shadow priests will only have 1 slot if even that. Again they are mostly used for stacking shadow weaving. Disc priests may be used and given 1 slot for certain fights. Holy priests make up majority of the healer positions in a raid comp. they by far have the highest HPS, so after you have enough pallys and Druid to buff, it will be filled with priests. This is the perspective of an alliance player so I can not talk much on shaman. But berserker is one of the best abilities in arena aside from a Druid’s cyclone.

[@Shiftlinkage101]

This would make sense if you didn't leave out resto shams for raid healing, and also if you didn't mention "unholy dk's" due to the fact they didn't exist in TBC...

[@Jersey0054]

@@Shiftlinkage101 my point of view on shamans were that they were useless, also alliance population was low on them. They can’t heal like a priest and they can’t do dmg like a lock/hunter. There was a couple of times were they would provide windfury for the melee/tank group but then again this expansion was not melee friendly either.

[@jimmyandersson9938]

I think biggest change for restodruid in tbc is how lifebloom replaces all the former healing spells, there so much more healing done and mana friendly from keeping the stacks up rather than using rejuv, regrowth etc.

[@Loon65]

Think I'll be going Warlock again! Seed of Corruption looks awesomeeeee and I want to run Demonology because Felguards RULE

[@iprata8406]

Mighty loremasters, a humble Troll Shaman in Classic, I wonder, will the Troll's Berserking "Fast and Furious" be shadowed by the Orc's TBC "Zug Zug" Blood Fury? Wondering if going into TBC, the Green Enhance team will still have higher number of teammates than the Blue Enhance team as it has been the case in Classic.

[@bradscott2150]

Great video thanks 👍🤓. Looking forward to tbc!

[@agarcn6704]

I am curious with Paladins if they will do the patch that made seals a 2 minute buff instead of the 30 second judgment consume like classic. I think it was in the WOLK pre patch they did this so it will be interesting if the decide to migrate that change into TBC classic.

[@aleksadmitrovic6347]

That was prepatch of wotlk

[@angustin6590]

Druid Swift Flight Form is not cheaper. You need riding skill of 300 (epic flying) to start the quest chain. Normal flying is cheaper since you only need 150 riding and get 225 for free. Keep in mind that it was added in 2.1

[@videos8159]

I love the fact we already analyzing tbc. blizzard didnt confirm it yet but those vids make it feel more real :D

[@FTW_Wolf]

I was just thinking this. and how will it be implemented if it is released.

[@Stompinwind]

Increase in debuff cap makes the biggest difference to the druid for feral dps as they can now put their bleeds on the target as FBite is garbage rip is huge; and bleeds are affected by atk power

[@LikeVenom18]

even with the helm, ferals are still a bottom tier DPS in TBC. the only way to raid as a feral in any guild, that has an aim of actually clearing stuff, is to be an off-tank and swap your gear when the 3rd tank isn't needed. and no, this doesn't only apply to SOME guilds or those hard core ones, TBC's T5 is actually a very hard content and, even in classic, as you can see, people still min-max with all the unneeded stuff. TBC's T5 and SWP will actually require min-maxing and sadly, a pure feral DPS has no place in such environment. the expansion is just melee unfriendly on top of feral druids not doing high enough damage to justify their slot, on top of having mana issues because of shape shifting... so in all honesty, the biggest addition for ferals in PVE is the bear form stuff, like mangle-bear and lacerate.

[@Stompinwind]

@@LikeVenom18 actually in sunwell they are the top dps assuming you have a dst... I was breaking 4k dps on a good night, and on a bad night 3600, but the hardest part is getting the gear... as how do you make claims to an OT getting dragonspine trophy.... you put together a pug where it is reserved is the only way....

[@LikeVenom18]

@@Stompinwind i remember farming DST on warmane as well as atlantiss' netherwing. out of probably 30 (if not more) gruul raids, i've only seen this trinket drop once and it went to a hunter that was pulling over 2.2k DPS in T5. there were no questions about who gets it, because everyone knew. yes, you can pull numbers as a feral, but only on a single target that doesn't die immediately (because of Rip damage efficiency). as soon as ranged fights take place, fights with more adds or phases - feral drops A LOT in terms of viability. you're basically bringing a single target damage stick and that's pretty much the only thing. i would much rather have an extra warlock so i can handle AoE fights better, a rogue if i didn't have one previously or an extra hunter. the final option seems the best one, as it's only a 2% aura damage difference, on top of having a ranged DPS that can occasionally AoE too. people often use brutallus as a typical "OH I CAN DO THAT MUCH DPS" check, however that's wrong.. he's basically a tank and spank single target damage sponge and far from being the hardest boss in the game, because you tailor your raids in order to down those hardest bosses in the game. yes, he has an enrage timer and that boss is a DPS check, but if everyone rotates drums, that boss is one of the easiest in SWP

[@Stompinwind]

@@LikeVenom18 yes the drums will be intereting I ran drums Back in retail Even as a tank It definitely was nice I know it would be nice to none have Call progression guilds be requiring drums but if they do at least there will be a market for leather

[@CuriousShrimp]

Great video, thanks for all the hard work ! Long live the shaman main ! I'll stick with it throughout TBC 😋

[@sitnud]

you forgot the hit buff that balance faerie fire gives

[@Najemniczkas]

I heard "Salty Rogues" instead of "Subtley Rogues" like three times :'D Great overview btw!

[@Stalgard]

you are missing a point on alliance retribution paladins, they can also seal twist. Meaning getting 5x fast stacks on vengeance and swap back to dps'ing with SoC. and you will get decent numbers compared to horde paladins

[@H4licarnassus]

Can't wait to get my ele on. Right now I'm mage main with shaman alt going to swap that in tbc.

[@duusstabil1818]

I believe you are missing an important point on ret paladin as improved sanctity aura gives 2% increased damage to all in the raid, which implies having at least one ret paladin in your raid worthwhile - isnt that the case?

[@the_real_toji]

It's 2% group damage and 3% crit for your raid with SotC debuff

[@ExecutusGaming]

Awesome video! Def helped me choose an alt :)

[@skylightts2292]

BIG DAMAGE!!

[@chinvincible4295]

Resto shaman was very op in arena. 2v2 war resto, but more then anything 3v3 war ret resto was incredible so much utility wf mobility and tankyness its genuinely the easiest most successful comp I ever used

[@muhshuh]

great video guys!

[@SD-vl9vn]

If I stay on my server, either alliance rogue or most likely my lock. If start on a fresh, maybe a spriest.

[@ryuoki1]

44:55 Leading cause of death in nearly every game is an inherent lack of hit points.

[@zachwithnok]

"Dead Zone" is removed. The minimum range changes from 7 to 5 yards and you automatically switch between ranged and melee auto-attacks. Hunters can also place traps in combat with a 2 sec arming time which gave them reliable CC and also let hunters bait spells with feign death. You guys missed quite a bit of important changes.

[@wholawl]

Restokin rogue is the best 2v2 comp in the game, not sure why u didn't mention rogues with druid pairing tbh. Rogues are pretty much the best 2s dps class if played well.

[@KB-jt3ns]

Well locks. Hunters and rogues for dps. Shadow priest with Holy palas. And sham for chain heals.. tanks warrior and druids for mt and pala for adds

[@ricknewton459]

ah, I cannot wait to play elemental/resto shaman again just like vanilla TBC!

[@Kenny-my5is]

nice video! may i ask something can you use drums in pvp? everyone tells me hunter should be skinning/lw thanks

[@undertyped1]

Let me fix a misconception about lifebloom. In TBC lifebloom stacks did not increase the amount of healing, 1 stack and 3 stacks give the same amount of bloom at the end.

[@danielskrivan6921]

3:50 swiftmend is in vanilla classic.

[@jnels8870]

T5 2pc make Arcane Mages amazing, alolng with the TLC trink from Kara.

[@djayfeel7135]

I thought I was choosing between warlock mage and shaman but This video made me want to play everything 🤣

[@oswaldmensin5283]

Druid like i did last time, cant wait to premade camp the horde again like we did last time, they could not leave the gy

[@danielskrivan6921]

5:40 the way you say this makes it sound like you're limited to 3 stacks of lifebloom total. You can have 3 stacks on any number of people. One thing I used to try to do in 10-man's is see how many people I could roll 3 stacks on. In 5-mans, I'd try to keep 3 stacks up indefinitely on everyone.

[@alphariustv5862]

Very much looking forward to Resto Shaman in TBC. im currently working on a guide similar to Egregious' guides he wrote for Classic and although its coming together, it's taking a lot of work lol. Great work though guys!

[@Therealfjood]

Paladin update: both factions get both seals so yay :D

[@TheOmegaAlfa]

Prot Warriors wanting to have some fun - try Effective Health tanking with minimal required Defence. :) Also, recruit guild to help gearing for Hydross.

[@theanalogueguy7528]

I'm starting my classic wotlk guides to get ahead of everyone.

[@checkyourself164]

Cringe

[@razzfromsweden]

Can you make a leveling guide for shaman?

[@DefcampMelderonTV]

For TBC? That will come. I already have one for Classic

[@keiker2254]

So Main: Resto Sham Alt: Mage/SPriest/Druid which one should i choose guys? (got a raiding rogue too but fugit)

[@saidandathrohan3119]

Can anyone explain to me if Random BG's are going to improve in TBC, especially for solo players, in classic it is non-stop premades and I was wondering if TBC will be more friendly for solo play?

[@ryuoki1]

I thought they were trying to curb the premades? One thing I heard was they removed the visibility of the queue number so players couldn't coordinate, leave queue and try again till most get in the same line. Or something like that.

[@amandaspear6148]

@@ryuoki1 only in av

[@andrewmoluf4299]

Should be way less premades if any at all. You no longer need to spam endless bgs for rank

[@darylsdog9521]

Yeah it’ll be a lot better since the ranked pvp is in arenas

[@dg5059]

Should be far improved for solo yeah

[@bavarianwolf3806]

so can you overall say which class with which races to most dmg pre raid, T4/T5 and endgamegear with sunwell

[@LikeVenom18]

destruction warlock is the #1 DPS throughout the entire expansion, followed by BM hunters and arcane mages.

[@bavarianwolf3806]

@@LikeVenom18 only if they dont classchanges ;)

[@zachwithnok]

@@LikeVenom18 Warlock and Hunter are actually more competitive than you suggest. Warlocks have the highest DPS potential, but boss mechanics don't always allow them that DPS. They are both usually either 1st or 2nd in DPS so they're both a solid choice.

[@Kalameeto]

The best hunter spec in pvp is actually a mm/sv hybrid with both scatter shot and wyvern sting. Hunter/disco is strong but hunter/rdruid is even stronger and rank 1 capable. Holy pladins have a very good 3v3 setup paired with arm warrior and an elem/resto shaman hybrid. Rank 1 capable in 3v3 (but still weaker than wld and rmp obviously). Sub rogue are better paired with a dreamstate restodruid than with disco or mage. This is the best 2v2 setup of the expansion. The best setup in 2v2 for shaman is resto+arm warrior. This is an excellent setup, especially if there aren't any rm of sl/rd in the neighbourhood. Ret+restosham is also good but is more like a double dps setup killer (very good vs rm). It won't do well versus popular healer+dps setups.

[@debatinghealer]

Rogue mage wipes ppl but the only problem is you have to have a brain to play it to it's full potential it's very very good and i'd say the best 2v2 comp

[@Mia-rp6wc]

Is monk good in tbc?

[@AcktongueBaby]

Under subscribed channel. Keep up the good works guys.

[@Keygo]

Love this video guys! Great information to help us prepare for Classic TBC. Can't wait to play warlock with the bros. ;)

[@MarcusPalle]

i am gonna play shadow priest in TBC and i will do mostly PVP and i wonder if they are op in tbc like there were in classic

[@ballsmanjoe699]

They’re not op but they are certainly viable. Rogue Shadow Priest destroys Druid Warrior easily. With equal gear the druid warrior team doesn’t stand a chance. Just have your rogue cheapshot -> kidney shot the warrior while you’re raping him and you win. (As long as your rogue can kick the cyclone)TBC has a lot of counter comps, so it’s not the best meta as far as balance is concerned. Still super fun though.

[@jamescpalmer]

Thanks bois great recap

[@ramza675]

Great video much needed.

[@Kmk157]

Are mages still going to be able to AOE boost dungeons like in vanilla or did that change in tbc?

[@fireotter6361]

Late answer but no. They changed aoe dmg so your spell only do 100% if hitting 10 or less targets. If you have twice that amount (20 targets) you will hit them for 50% of the damage. Consecration from Paladin will be the aoe spell for Boosting since it bypass that aoe cap.

[@petervanwinden3953]

When do people predict TBC will be out?

[@reypalpatine916]

At the earliest probably mid next year, maybe March.

[@petervanwinden3953]

@Salterino Kripperino is your hunter still stuck at lvl 13?

[@klocka88]

retri pala, arms warr and resto shaman in 3v3, gives me the tickles

[@CSSX80]

Mutherfukin Turbo

[@CSSX80]

I also liked rogue ret shammy

[@CSSX80]

Pushed high rating with both those

[@Th3Felucius]

Does anyone know when leveling Shamans get access to two-handed maces/axes on Alliance side?

[@dg5059]

I think there isn't a level requirement. In classic, it was unlocked via a talent, but that was removed in TBC

[@osgrace3341]

Does avenging wrath also prevent you from giving a shield to others?

[@dnb888]

For that 2v2 arms / resto comp you def want to be rolling mace spec

[@Ahlenx]

Warriors low downtime while grinding and leveling. What? Don't you know that joke about Warrior? What's the best race for Warrior? - Night Elf, because it decreases the time needed to get to your corpses while leveling :D

[@truetrue2963]

I wish blizzard would slow down, it’s quite good tough for a real world casual player to stay up to date with real life, I’m not 15 with nothing to do anymore 🙃

[@maksimhapeyenka2435]

so true, too many rly fun things to keep up with in the gaming industry

[@keenzo1998]

thats on you then man, that doesnt mean they need to slow down

[@hugotopping]

Yeah they need to slow down, it will be WOTLK by 2022 and then what???

[@allighast9714]

They just want to squeeze the playerbase for increased subs on expansion release not sustained play, it's a short term nostalgia cash in.

[@toraso842]

Any news on release date? or possible announcement?

[@tanakaojj]

which class to top heals in raids?

[@Kevin-uj4uu]

get out of any stun for druid? you cant shift out of stuns

[@joshmartin212]

Why cant I hear Defcamp through Melderons Mic.

[@samjw84]

Thanks for the video boys! Getting excited for TBC, glad to see some content for it. I am going to probably going to main a hunter and then or maybe even switch off and on with a pally, I love being off tank in raids, not too much responsibility, but more so than just dpsing I like that middle ground personally, one thing I cant remember though, was it TBC or Wrath that the pet stables got a update from 4 slots to lots more? I want to say wrath, but its been so damn long since I played TBC that for all I remember it could be either one.

[@realduox]

Demonic sacrifice warlock, the true 1 button class.

[@The500k]

I can't wait to level through this journey again, I'm gonna take my time, just immerse myself and try to complete each zone before moving to the next, although you'll ding 70 before that.

[@Lynrowen]

Get your bodies ready for double mace spec combat rogue in 2's.

[@Hunnterman1]

I didn't know they were doing TBC Classic