💥WOW💥 Jay Slater was NOT seen and parents WARNED!

[@kenn1936]

The fact that she gave a statement that she is "disappointed in the British Public" and that she felt "unsupported", when she wanted to use the money to fly out relatives of friends that were out there with her.... in other words, those who WERE supporting her out in Tenerife, wanted their partners and families to come out to Tenerife too. Adding to the mounting bill for flights, accommodation, etc - basically a holiday in Tenerife. These friends and family were not there to help search, but to give her support. I only heard of Jay's Dad and Brother searching, along with all the teams that were out there searching. Maybe she could now retract that statement about the British Public?????? Instead of asking for more and more funds. We don't want to be seeing a "Royal Funeral' and a major Booze up.

[@REALHARSH]

Wowzers

[@suefox7284]

Bang on with your comments, you are so right with what you say

[@KShea11]

Welp you just avoid got it sewn up tight. Exactly what I wanted to sat. Legit couldn't have said it better so I'll sit in the back...lol. so dodgy...

[@janicemartin-x3v]

Disappointed with the British public..... cheeky mare, the public don't like, thugs, thieves or dealers.

[@MPezant1215]

talking out your absolute ass

[@sharky-66]

the mother consumed by GREED rather than grief 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

[@alandavies4027]

This is a dis-respectful way to honour a child's memory. it is better to be remembered quietly by the family than as a reason for a money grab by the general public.

[@jerzywoking1699]

See also Hollie Dance and the GoFundMe set up to help her son.

[@MrSerendipity01]

@@jerzywoking1699 The Archie Battersby case.

[@carolinecurrington1867]

@@alandavies4027 I never said chubby guy was Brandon ? But I can see in clips he was with Jay. Maybe they went down to beach as Jay was to high on drugs don't know is all I know is you keep your friends close and your enemies even closer.. wonder why the only pic Brandon was not with Jay, was at the top of mountain on white stones. Plus he hasn't spoken out publicly.

[@Ocdz101]

I don't care what anybody says he was killed and there's more answers needed, the fact they have have found small comfort that he died instantly says to me, "No enquiry will be made over here" which again stinks rotten ? There are so many suspicious people involved, including the Spanish police and people close to him !! No one deserves to lose their family in those circumstances, but the way certain people have conducted themselves throughout the enquiry is the only reason people are raising cause for concerns on how the publics money has been spent in these findings. I will certainly not stop commenting about this because some sun newspaper readers take offence ! If anything you people are against justice for jay himself so stfu and stop whining about people saying such stuff because the whole thing stinks rotten.

[@ThinkItThrough24]

The only problem is that the British police won't get involved if the Spanish police are corrupt, that's way above the normal British police. It would need to go higher up

[@pedroloco9327]

I totally agree , except with the bit about dying instantly. Whether he fell or was pushed he either had a long fall and then upon impact broke numerous bones and died instantly. But would have been terrified free falling before hand. Or he may have fell and bounced off every rock breaking bones and tearing flesh until he hit the bottom. I don’t say this out of any sick and twisted way. I say this because with them withholding the exact location of the remains no one can see whether where he fell from was an overhang or sloped down to the final resting place.

[@Cheryl-xn7gv]

@@pedroloco9327I quite agree with you it’s tragic and the family’s of others missing there my prayers to all .

[@EnglishPrincess30]

FACTS!!!!!!!!!

[@EnglishPrincess30]

@sparkle25-w1o same…

[@biffalump]

My grandad passed in his villa alone in Spain my dad got him funeral and bought him home , it was £4000

[@Redemption660]

Where in Spain?? Tenerife is double the distance

[@biffalump]

Los Montesinos

[@natfrog]

my moms funeral service was more than £4000 just for the cemetery plot, mass and funeral services. and that was in Poland over 10 years ago. add coffin, flowers and the meal afterwards and you have triple the amount. and then the grave of course, further thousands. funerals are very expensive, even for the basic ones.

[@letitiamcculley9311]

The problem with this GoFundME is that the sad excuse of a mother, JUST wants more and more MONEY, SHE is actively ASKING for MORE MONEY, 70,000 is NOT enough????? She will never say, Thankyou, give to another family now, AS we have more than enough Money, without US contributing to bury OUR OWN SON. Disgrace

[@TWSPR]

why are people still donating? its that I don't understand. She can hold her begging bowl out all she likes, its the people putting the money in it that need to give there heads a wobble. fools and their money are easy parted I guess

[@sharpeipink123]

Well there is "FREE WILL" and there is a saying: "A FOOL & HIS MONEY ARE EASILY PARTED!" so pity those who donated for being asleep still and thank GOD you are awake X

[@letitiamcculley9311]

@@sharpeipink123 Good points

[@mossygreen2790]

True, when money is a case of "easy come easy go", it's never going to be enough? They want to keep the gravy train rollin, and rolling in! Next it will be for a huge memorial stone, for this heroic lad/man? Maybe a huge stone engraved with machetes, golf club, "E's", skunk, etc, with bottles of booze surrounding the tribute? I mean I can't believe this situation, I agree with Harsh! I am being sarcky, but at the end of the day there are thousands of folk, so much more worthy of the public's generosity!

[@jerzywoking1699]

Didn't he take out travel insurance before he went?

[@LB-gr7gu]

I feel she is shameless.. maybe brought up her son with the same values 😢

[@CherDavis-pk5sn]

Clearly. Feral family.

[@BlackStump172]

None !

[@aaron6841]

Deffo a shameless chav

[@annieyates1598]

@@Mfreverton4541 Ray-Bans paid for from the Gofundme

[@RACHEL-pu9gf]

@@Mfreverton4541 at least she'll be able to afford to get counselling for her depression! I'm existing on disability benefits, I couldn't afford a funeral for my daughter as DWP wrongly refused me the Funeral Expenses Payment. We crowd funded £5k for that, but bless her she's still without a headstone. sked my GP for MH help, he isn't ALLOWED to refer me until he's given me more medication (I take 29 every night) and I've contacted MIND. It is £30 a session to get help from MIND, £30 I do not have existing as I do on disability benefit! So much for our NHS being 'free at the point of use' ....

[@AngelsPieceOfPeace]

If he was separated from his mates, and had lost his hotel key, *how* did the blanket get to the Airbnb?

[@REALHARSH]

Good question

[@chrisg5433]

I actually heard a good reply to this. Given how limited supplies are on the island of Tenerife it's likely that style of blanket is made locally and sold to many of the hotels there.

[@clairegrant4505]

​@@chrisg5433except he was wearing it at the Air bnb, supposedly.

[@keithmatthews1673]

It might be a popular type of blanket on the island maybe of 'Moroccan' design. The hotels probably lose many blankets, bathrobes and towels so will likely replace from local sources - it may be just coincidence.

[@johnillsley9179]

@@AngelsPieceOfPeace the blanket was from the air bnb

[@sammycinnamon7300]

What about the ww2 vet that died alone, no family and no one to pay for a lavish send off that he, undoubtedly deserved. Or the nurse that worked 80 hours a week for little money and less thanks that was killed by a drunk driver on her way to work, shouldn't she be afforded black horses and all the bells and whistles? I hope this family have to answer for this blatant empathy fraud. Sickening

[@REALHARSH]

Well said

[@natfrog]

No one has to donate. I didn’t and you don’t have to either. People are acting like someone’s coming into their house and robbing them or something. Chill out.

[@RACHEL-pu9gf]

£70k! I lost my daughter in November 2022, and being disabled & having to exist on disability benefit, I was unable to pay for her funeral as the DWP wrongly) refused me the Funeral Expenses Payment. As a result, we 'crowd funded' in order to give her a 'send off' and were very grateful to her friends and others to receive just over £5,000, and we gave her a nice goodbye. However, nearly 2 years on and my poor daughter still doesn't have a headstone because I cannot afford one, wonder if the Slater's fancy diverting £1,000 my way?

[@suefox7284]

You're 100% right, what's the difference between this case and all the other hundreds of people and children that have died like this. The mither has a damm cheek asking for more money

[@scottishemmaa2457]

I cannot understand this family at all!!! Having lost a child myself, I totally agree that their funeral is the last thing you can do for them - and you want to do your very best. However - the key is ‘YOUR BEST’, not 5,000 people on the internet donating to a cause’s ‘Best’! When it was our daughter’s funeral, we made it personal to her and our family, choosing her clothes, picking the type of service, any readings or speeches, any particular music, photos etc. I understand that funerals are expensive, especially when they are unplanned, but to keep asking people to donate to this is ridiculous! I also don’t believe the £20K repatriation charge either!!! If that’s honestly what they’re paying, they’re getting ripped off!!! We’ve also had to do this from a cruise in the middle of the ocean!!! Helicopter to the main land, then cargo to the UK. We did need to pay a proportion initially, then claimed everything back from our travel insurance company, only paying a small excess. The whole thing is odd!

[@mattday94]

Thats the part that cracks me up at the moment "it is believed jay died instantly" but his clothes were found next to him along with the "no foul play was involved" since wen did we gain the ability to strip down after our instant death

[@REALHARSH]

Maybe they think he undressed mid flight

[@FontaineDerby]

@mattday94 His clothes were NOT "found next to him". British overseas missing persons charity LBT Global said, "LBT Global is saddened to announce that a body found in Tenerife does look to be that of Jay Slater. It is understood the body was found close to the site of his mobile phone’s last location. Although formal identification is yet to be carried out, the body was found WITH Mr Slater’s possessions and clothes. A post mortem and forensic enquiries will follow. LBT Global are supporting the family at this distressing time and ask for everyone to afford them space and privacy to come to terms with the news." Slater was found deep in a ravine that cadaver dogs had not been airlifted into. A video posted by El Mundo whose title begins "Hallan un cadaver en la zona" shows that the terrain was so difficult that the Guardia Civil Mountain Rescue Team were airlifted out by helicopter. Also it can be seen at: Manchester Evening News - Footage reveals final moments of Jay Slater search in Tenerife."

[@drummingtildeath]

Where do you get the idea that he wasn't wearing clothes?

[@mattday94]

@@drummingtildeath all the news articles were saying his clothes was found next to his remains but they allso saying he would have died instantly from an accidental fall and there is no foul play involved

[@mossygreen2790]

@@drummingtildeath I "assume" that he was wearing his clothes, but perhaps his backpack, smokes, blanket(?), etc were nearby? I wonder if the scene was photographed/filmed before his removal of the location? It's strange & certainly makes you wonder, hence all the questions & hype, etc?

[@tomthompson2309]

You know what pisses me off... The amount of comments I've had,calling Jay a child.... Since when was 19yrs old a fkn child,some people really shock me with their way of thinking,thanks for the constant uploads,and you raise some valid points,the sheep don't wanna hear it though.

[@REALHARSH]

I feel the same way

[@kristenwilliams3632]

But she's not disappointed in all the donations 🙄 Good grief mom!

[@REALHARSH]

I know right

[@andymcnab2.0]

Day by day this story gets more bizarre. Money is the route to all evil. 25:17 the path of the righteous man.

[@KShea11]

Mum sounds so bad tbh. Can you choke on cringe?

[@BlackStump172]

I cannot see what any of it has to do with the British public !

[@pedroloco9327]

@@BlackStump172 I think it just doesn’t sit right with people. They’ve already got £70,000 and she’s asking for more.

[@paulbowman1762]

I PUT 50 QUID IN EARLY DOORS AND I WANNA KNOW WERE ALL THIS 70 K IS GOING OR GONE ? IM NOT ASKING MUCH ? I DONT UNDERSTAND WHY THE FAMILY IS ASKING FOR MORE ? IF ALL THATS GONE THEN WERE HAS IT ALL GONE ? SOMEONE IS TAKING THE PISS 👊

[@Properbellend]

Box us a tenner lad 😂

[@Ajpr2]

What a helmet you are then lad 🤣

[@emilygooner9697]

Oh Paul, bless you 😂

[@NigelShepherd-z7k]

Fair play, Paul and quite frankly - as someone who works in Intelligence and Investigations, I feel that everyone who donated out of the kindness of their own hearts DOES have the right to question how the donations are used. This is particularly true as initially some money was to be used for accommodation and expenses. However, as I have pointed out previously, in cases such as this which extend over a period of time, more often than the authorities cover those expenses. The funds would most likely not have been needed for that. I can only think of two cases that I have personally been involved with where that hasn't been the case - ever. Then after snapping back at people who had donated, she changed her mind and said some funds would be used to bring in professional search teams. But even then, nothing happened for quite some time. There was absolutely no sense of urgency. I have dealt with many families in somewhat similar sad situations and it's all we could do to stop family members digging with their bare hands and searching in darkness - so desperate was the need for answers. I don't think she should have been so quick to repeatedly jump online and attack the very people supporting the family for asking this. There shouldn't have been time to monitor social media at all. After all, people were donating under the impression that funds would be used for very specific purposes - only for that to keep changing when challenged. Now the funds are for repatriation... and now, yet again, it's changed... for more funds for a send off 🤨 I'm sorry, that's just not a good look. I have never dealt with any other family in light of equally if not more so tragic events (whole families being lost - multiple small children - to incidents such as drink drivers or hit and run) asking something like this and it comes across as greedy in the face of grief. There will be interviews, books, serialisation of the story in newspapers and documentaries for which the family will paid too.

[@leeboglazersout1958]

You bought a round of drinks for them, that’s where that pinky went fella 😂

[@anndunn6536]

Bullshit £20000 for repatriation £3500 to£4500 with a reputable company

[@REALHARSH]

100% agree

[@ChockHolocaust]

What they are quoting there, is that yes it can indeed cost 20 grand or more to get a body to the UK from some places, but that's when that place is in the arse end of nowhere with few airlines which go there and those which do go there use aircraft unsuitable for loading a coffin onto. But that's not the case with Tenerife South airport. Easyjet, Ryanair, TUI and Jet2 all operate direct flights to Manchester from Tenerife South and whilst not all of those airlines fly cargo, to my knowledge at least three of them will fly a coffin back to Manchester Airport in the hold. The aircraft they use are A320 and A330 variants and Boeing 737 variants, and whilst its not too easy to get a coffin on and off a 737 because the cargo doors on the holds are not massive (I speak from personal experience), it can be done and it's certainly not a problem if loading onto an A320 or A330. As noted, I've personally unloaded numerous coffins from holiday airliners at Manchester Airport, even when they were on aircraft from airlines which don't fly direct to Manchester from Tenerife, including Aer Lingus, British Airways, Air Baltic, Brussels Airways, Condor, Corendon, Eurowings, Iberia, Icelandair, Norwegian, Royal Air Maroc, Scandinavian, TAP, Transavia and Vueling. But all these airlines do operate flights to and from Tenerife to other European or UK mainland destinations, so they could easily transfer a coffin from one of those flights, to one which was going into Manchester which they also all fly to, or if not, one of their Star Alliance or Skyteam partners could do it on a code share. It's quite likely too, that any half decent holiday insurance policy would cover at least some, if not all of the costs for such a flight. So yeah, if you had no holiday insurance and your body had to be flown to Manchester from Ulaanbaatar or some such, you might indeed be looking at 20 grand, but there's no way it would cost that much from Tenerife and anyone who says it would cost that much, is full of crap.

[@Bekzee]

​@@REALHARSHwas the LBT Global charity not supposed to be helping with that as well? Could be entirely wrong though.

[@FredaFlynn2008]

How was his body decomposed, as it would be one month in, but his finger tips reman intact? I’ve seen how forensic pathologists have to inject water under the skin and wait for it to plump up when getting fingerprints from people who have been dead for a few days let alone almost a month. The lies Spanish police come out with shows how incredibly thick they are if they expect the public to believe such ludicrous statements.

[@katyg3873]

A company my friend works for has just started doing repatriation. They charge between 5-10 grand depending where it is. The 10 is for Africa and south east Asia. Europe is 5 grand all day long.

[@jameseverall]

Surely he could be formally identified in the UK by his dental records? A lot of things in this unfortunate sequence of events doesn't add up. I smell a rat

[@FontaineDerby]

A court spokesperson in Tenerife confirmed last Tuesday: "We have a positive ID... Fingerprinting confirms that the body belongs to Jay Slater and the death was due to multiple traumas compatible with a fall in the mountainous area." Slater's fingerprints were on file because of his conviction for violent disorder.

[@Foxy_Fez]

@@jameseverall you would think a 2nd postmortem should be routine

[@vallee3140]

@@Foxy_Fez it is, there is to be one in the UK

[@heavenlyxx4043]

I still can't get my head around the fact that the family didn't kick the door down to see his body. If that was my child, no one would be telling me i couldn't go and see his remains and sit with my own child before they put him in a coffin. It's too distressing to see him. The whole ordeal is distressing. Id need the closure, and for that, i would need to be with him to grieve properly regardless of what i was going to see. 😢 Shady antics!

[@mariangrove5292]

People are advised not to because it's better to keep their memories of how their loved one was but they are not forbidden from doing so.

[@TheZoebee123]

And don't forget, when he fights through this harsh terrain, trips and falls to his death, in-between him doing all that, he strips off, places all his worldly possession next to him, and dies, yeah, that's sounding like its inevitable, everybody, this is what's happened, nothing more to see here, it couldn't possibly look like foul play, whys the family not questioning this, how's nobody other than us, online, seeing this , it's smacking us all in the face, it's a set up, that kid was murdered

[@De_Wolfe]

So if it comes out at some point that this was a murder because of bad decisions involving illegal substances ... does the go fund me cash get returned? Because my gut said the patents knew he wasn't alive when they arrived in Tenerife... they'd been warned... that dad was terrified when asked if the UK police should get involved. My guy said book cow he definitely doesn't want UK police involved... hmmm I smell BS. No part of this story makes sense.

[@natfrog]

He could have been carrying his tshirt as it was hot and if he had anything in his hands it likely fell from his hands while he tried to stop himself from falling. Do you have crime scene photos showing him placing all his items next to his body? Why make things up?

[@wemoveforward6413]

I'm setting up a gofund me to help me do my big shop and gas bill. I spent all my money on scratch cards due to misadventure into the local newsagents. Fuck it ay 😂

[@REALHARSH]

Me too!

[@andymcnab2.0]

I'm a sucker for helping feed hungry kids, I don't think there's anything more pleasurable than knowing you've helped a hungry kid!

[@mossygreen2790]

Love it, 😁 @wemoveforward6413. Seriously, I would to embarrassed, I am old school, begging isn't cool 😊 (edit typo)

[@stephencurran2568]

Es I need a new mobility scooter mines caput broken .can I set up a go fund scooter 😂

[@joan4783]

If he had travel insurance then they pay for repatriation how much do they want for a funeral for god sake

[@lynnwalker9935]

J apparently did have travel insurance

[@Properbellend]

@@lynnwalker9935 Probably invalidated

[@louiseedwardspeasybellafon1185]

@@joan4783 he did not seem the type to think of travel insurance

[@annieyates1598]

any responsible parent would have made sure their 19 year old son had insurance before going off on his first holiday without mummy..

[@niallmcnally6886]

Insurance ain't paying out on going on a all night bender and taking a stroll in to ex volcanic revine so I wouldnt matter lol with respect

[@alisondavies8944]

Im thinking convicted drug dealer offers young lad free drugs back at his Airbnb and shit happened …

[@REALHARSH]

Likely story yet

[@mossygreen2790]

A deal was being sorted &/or, a punishment arranged for a transgression? That saying, "you live by the sword, you die by the sword" maybe ?

[@alisondavies8944]

@@mossygreen2790 Totally agree …Something I’ve just watched got me thinking too.-That pic with the blanket -was just something about it -and I’ve just realised,if you zoom in there’s a reflection in the lighter.People have probably done this already tho 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@mossygreen2790]

@@alisondavies8944 oh I will have to check that out.👍

[@coldpotatoes2556]

​@@alisondavies8944what's the reflection?

[@sparklecatcher1772]

As tragic as it is, at 19 years old, we know right from wrong. We know drugs are wrong. We know to choose our company carefully. As an adult, we must take personal responsibility for our poor choices. It falls to no-one else. We owe the family nothing but our condolences. No offence intended, just my opinion. Thank you for being the voice of reason!

[@Tia-Louisa]

The parents want a huge expensive party. Quite disturbing. Innocent normal parents would demand a second alternative autopsy and enquiry into Ayub, Rocky, Lucy and the other phonies!....

[@shelleyw1837]

Prayers for Jay's family but enough money has been raised.

[@joannemoss7171]

It must be awful as a parent not to be able to see your child and say goodbye he must be very decomposed and I think as a mother I would want a second opinion and a postmortem over here in England I always think a fresh pair of eyes just in case they've missed anything. This case is so mad I just hope It was a bad accident and the wrong choice to go walking that morning 😢

[@REALHARSH]

I agree ☝️

[@jerzywoking1699]

And have another podtmortem after the second one just in case the second one missed anything.

[@joannemoss7171]

@@jerzywoking1699 what ever

[@jennymason-sm1bk]

I don't think Riley Strain's parents asked for funds for a big send off. What makes Jay so EXTRA SPECIAL. His death was as a result of his own bad decision making regardless of autopsy results

[@TheZoebee123]

Nobody should give that woman anymore money, what's she gunna use it on, oh I know, residency, yeah that's it, she doesn't seem to give a damm about her murdered son, using the excuse that she wants to give him a good send off, well I'm sorry people, maybe if she'd spent more time raising her son a bit better then she wouldn't need any money for his funeral would she..

[@karlaparker7988]

I agree 👍 The women was actively encouraging him to go to this 3 day rave, she strikes me a very streetwise and would know about the drugs there. Yes encouraging our kids to go on holiday, but most would say keep away from areas etc even if they go behind our backs they remember the warning

[@fozzieandflup]

Spot on. Parents have to take accountability for their children’s upbringing. Harsh but true

[@chrisg5433]

@@karlaparker7988 In the interview she said Jay didn't really want to go and she had to persuade him to go in the end. Sounds very suspect. Like what 19 year old teenage boy doesn't actually want to go on holiday and party with their friends ?

[@karlaparker7988]

@@chrisg5433 Well mine would of been counting the sleeps. He had only just started serving for the axe machete attack, he knew the shit the friends get up to

[@susanlongyear1229]

Spot on.... you are so right

[@Callum111-s6j]

I have just watched a brilliant documentary about Jay Slater's life; which was very insightful, and highlights his serious criminal past; and what he was actually like as a person; and it's not good. There are so many reasons why he could have been murdered. It makes me think that because Jay Slater had such a handsome, angelic, innocent, naive looking face, that that is what he was like; But think about animals in the jungle, some are absolutely beautiful, but if you touch them or go near them they would kill you.

[@chrisg5433]

Where can we watch this?

[@spencersmith7774]

Where can you find this documentary?

[@Callum111-s6j]

@@spencersmith7774 It's new on KZbin, I watched it this morning; You'll have to scroll through the subject Jay Slater in search.

[@jacquelineteale4937]

Hi!.What is the name of the Documentary, and where can it be seen? Many thanks.

[@Callum111-s6j]

@@jacquelineteale4937 I don't know, I watched it on KZbin, I will try and find it again, and if I can, i will post the link; it was really well documented and thoughtfully done, by a male KZbinr, it covered everything right from Jay's past.

[@Camille_Anderson]

A send off is not equivalent to how much you love someone, or how great a person is. A kid of 19 has hardly achieved much & he doesn't seem to have a particularly great lifestyle. It is around £2,500 for repatriation. Its ridiculous how this case has evolved.

[@sarahmeakin1391]

Spot on! They actually think we are stupid and trolls apparently for not feeling like it's down to us to pay for everything including a send off! When the British public have kindly and generously donated 70k already! I have a teen boy too and my focus would have been completely different from the start Im heartbroken for the family and understand greif but this is getting ridiculous name calling then asking for more when it isn't needed what about his travel insurance it surely will cover some of these costs also? From a mum of a teenage boy in the UK with respect x❤

[@Redemption660]

It’s not compulsory to give…if you don’t agree, don’t give…simple. You need to get a life

[@sarahmeakin1391]

@@Redemption660 and you need to get the point clearly...

[@kimballentyne3482]

Thank you for sharing this news. It is very sad that Jay is deceased and will never be able to tell anything, and his family may have been warned to keep their mouths shut. Far too many rotten apples. Sometimes household, car and travel insurance policies also include funerals. In that extreme heat deceased bodies quickly deteriorate. Dental records may be helpful.

[@robertburgess3767]

You are saying everything I am thinking...this whole situation is beyond belief...well done you saying it!

[@REALHARSH]

Thank you 🙏

[@Sloan341]

Good morning, welcome back . Glad you all are home safely. ❤ I believe you have made a valid point. Lots of questions left unanswered.

[@REALHARSH]

Thank you Sloan

[@margaretconnery7422]

Greed springs to mind

[@pamenglish6060]

I always felt it was very weird that his things was next to him No way would that happen. Where I live on a main street where there is alot of pubs on the weekends I sit at my window to smoke 🚬 I have seen so many people fall from being drunk what ever they have fell whatever is in there hands like phone always ends up on the other side of the road not the same side the fall on.

[@LetBeHonestJack]

I think it’s a smack in the face to the other lads who have been in the news lately who haven’t been found and there families being in the same place they where. Donating the money to help give them families help or closure is way more important then giving that kid a massive send off and piss up for the family.

[@PiXieDesiderata]

I keep thinking the reality is that he was probably high as hell and obviously we don't do logical things when high or coming down off drugs, in my raving days I've walked miles back from raves and got lost etc. However, nobody except a random bar maid have highlighted that he might have been high/unwell.

[@batintheattic7293]

If it's logical that people will do illogical things when they're still buzzing (how long, do you know, was it between Jay's last dabble and when he is supposed to have left the B&B?) then why did neither of the two people he called (one of whom definitely said she had gone to bed early as she was so tired) employ logic? He phoned them and let them know his situation. About an hour, by vehicle, away from them. How far could his illogicality have taken him away in an hour? They could have found a ride and gone to find him. Or, more obviously quicker, phoned the B&B and explained what was happening and asked the two men to go and retrieve him until his friends could get there. At that point he would, potentially, not be an hour deep into his illogical adventure. I would have phoned the B&B. Particularly if I already knew the two men staying there. Long before I phoned the police to report Jay missing. Straight on the blower to the B&B. Why didn't that happen? Or, did it happen? Did somebody find Jay BEFORE he fell? There doesn't even have to be foul play involved in that scenario. Jay could have been so scared, either chemically or for a better reason, and in backing away from his would be rescuers backed over a cliff. If it happened like that; then a potential cover up (machinations to hide the facts from enquiry) is what the colluders are going to get away with. And, of course, there may be questions to answer about why somebody would set up a GoFundMe if they already knew Jay was dead.

[@jerzywoking1699]

​@@batintheattic7293Jay's friends know the answer to all this. But more concerned in protecting their own arses....

[@steveogilvie591]

Who gave them the tip off of exactly where he was surely that needed to be looked into..The trek paths go from masca right to the beach and go past where he was meant to have been found whats to say he wasnt took down that path and thru over

[@pedroloco9327]

Exactly , whether fell , thrown or jumped his injuries would still be the same. “ his injuries are consistent with an accidental fall” .

[@kevinlewis8095]

70,000 is enough to cover all the cost with money in the bank so why are they still asking for more

[@keithmatthews1673]

Well would you be in a hurry to go back to work? You can probably get compassionate leave for PSTD for a few weeks on full pay but if longer in will be reduced pay and have a time limit.

[@susanhayes9284]

Greedy woman it's not right

[@norahstuart9147]

​@@keithmatthews1673Welcome to the real world. Life goes on sadly.

[@fitzycazza]

They're not the working type.

[@robertdavie4858]

Hope there dole money stops now there flush.

[@SH4D0-v1h]

You just explained what so many are thinking perfectly👍💯 Glad you enjoyed your holidays. Peace out big man ❤

[@falcosirrus8620]

There would be pretty much nothing to see of him other than bone and some left over skin. When i was curious about the fingerprints i watched numerous time lapse videos of decaying animals. What stands out is the feet (hands) tend to survive quite well while everything else is taken by insects and the natural break down of human organs and flesh. That makes sense because they are mostly just skin and bone. There are also definitely techniques used for fingerprints from decayed bodies, even in advanced states, so i imagine they are not lying about it.

[@CherDavis-pk5sn]

The teeth. Why didn't they check his dental records? Did all his teeth fall out when he fell?

[@ViOhsa]

Lol... sorry 😅‼️

[@falcosirrus8620]

@@CherDavis-pk5sn If he was not registered with a dentist there will be no dental records to compare.

[@andymcnab2.0]

One question I'd like to know. When did Debbie last speak to Jay?

[@REALHARSH]

Great question

[@andymcnab2.0]

@REALHARSH and one question for Lucy. How much of Qassims money did Jay spend?

[@ch3micalromanc369]

​@@andymcnab2.0heard it's county lines money owed and product taken without payment in past but that could be more rumours, there was a copper on a message I seen works in Lancashire police he mentioned he had dealings with jay and county lines issues also said he had no sympathy for him as he's a wrongun 🤔

[@dannymurphy1779]

@@ch3micalromanc369 Ayub works for the rapper Potter Payper though, the guy seems to be doing very well from his music, Ayub was running his cafe over there which was making good money.

[@lizxox9460]

​@@ch3micalromanc369wouldnt believe a word Lancashire police say

[@youknow2469MitakuyeOyasin]

I'd listen to absolutely NO ONE who told me they'd rather me not view my child!!!

[@REALHARSH]

Me neither

[@KKC2-o3z]

I listened to the funeral director when he firmly recommended to me and my other 2 children not to view my sons body. My daughter pushed it though, and we went and viewed only his hand (grateful for that). I was very upset to learn I would never see his face again, but also understood the details of his passing would have shown a face I likely would have had nightmares about. I made a choice not to have a distorted vision of my son's face in my mind for the rest of my life. However, I have a vision of his beautiful hand. Just saying, circumstances do play a part.

[@mossygreen2790]

@@KKC2-o3z Yes, sometimes it's better not to view a body in certain circumstances. But viewing the "better" sections of a corpse can reassure a family? I viewed my family member & was shocked & upset by what I saw & you never forget that, as it's your last memory & contact with them. That image clouded all my other good memories. So it's a difficult call?

[@leaveherwild9979]

I was the same when my Dad passed.....I was advised not to see him as his condition had deteriorated rapidly due to the hot weather. I said it didn't matter to me what he looked like he's still my Dad, so please open up his coffin.. Eventually, they did n I got to see him for the very last time 🥹

[@christinecoombes-u2s]

I viewed my son after his death and it was not a pleasant experience. I can only imagine that a body that has been decomposing for 29 days would not bare a lot of resemblance to how Jay was when alive and would be a terrible experience for the family . On saying that , I fully understand why they would need the reassurance that it was definitely Jay . It's all part of the grieving process . RIP Jay ✨

[@mevoydecasa]

The mother certainly had time to get her nails done for the cameras.

[@dianeknight4839]

A forensic specialist has said that in the climate on Tenerife, there is only a 4 day window from which to get reliable fingerprints from a body!!!. What sort of a funeral costs 70k, even with repatriation there is still 50k left to play with?. Sorry but if this kid had passed away on home turf, say from an accident, we would have never heard of Jay Slater.

[@jaamieeeex]

Hey, I'm very interested to know where you've gotten the quote from the forensic specialist? Can you link the article or wherever you found it please? Would be useful to use when people talk about fingerprints and how they're durable etc. Thanks!

[@paulabound7050]

Watch Michelle after dark because that's not true about the four day window finger tips can be rehydrated Michelle gives detailed facts on this.

[@mariangrove5292]

I wonder why dental records weren't used.

[@REALHARSH]

Maybe he’d never been

[@simonwolfe529]

good point !!!!!!! yeah

[@NellsTravelKitchen]

It doesn't really matter what they use, because his parents were right there to give DNA match if needed.

[@mariangrove5292]

Yes, that would surely eliminate any doubts.

[@mariangrove5292]

Nicola Bulley was identified by dental records. I'd have thought that DNA comparisons with her parents and / or children would have been easier.

[@lynnwalker9935]

A 19 year old 3 days in on his holiday 1 does wonder why j never ordered a taxi 1 would assume still has spending money for the holiday How can they tell j died there and not anywhere else

[@Redemption660]

Becsuse forensics confirmed it. Move on now. Back to watching emmerdale now for the toxic deluded Brits

[@andrewf3746]

We brought out nan back from abroad as died on holiday and it cos 3,500-5k to bring her back. Its not 20k. And was covered by travel insurance after all was sorted.

[@sneezymonkey]

Can you imagine a 19 Yr old thinking about travel insurance? He might not have any...

[@andrewf3746]

@sneezymonkey family confirmed he had insurance

[@anandamindfulyogi3879]

TRUE words...🙏 keep up the good work...blessed LOVE 🙏💚🕊🌿👌🌈

[@tamarhiw7276]

Glad you're all safely home!

[@REALHARSH]

Thank you 🙏

[@hoppersdoppers]

DD saying that she paid 52k To the swiss search team...the team say they only got travel and accommodation funding

[@norfolkronin6307]

Yep. Shes lying.

[@peterrfowler16]

How did the sniffer dogs completely miss him the first time round?

[@CaroleEvans93436]

Scientists have known how to take fingerprints from badly decomposed bodies since the 1960's. The epidermis is soaked in a solution of potassium hydroxide, washed in distilled water then formaldehyde. The forensic scientist only needs one finger - even if it's just a partial print. It takes the epidermis a couple of months to totally break down

[@vikkiadamson4732]

I've seen that on a documentary...you're right❤🇬🇧

[@leeboglazersout1958]

Someone’s been watching CSI: Las Vegas 😂

[@CaroleEvans93436]

@@leeboglazersout1958 Never watched it. I attended Leeds' Anatomy Centre a long time ago - the place where medical students dissect cadavers. They have other dissection suites where they look at partially decomposed body parts and one of the tutors was keen to tell us how bodies can still be identified via tattoos that are partially decomposed and fingerprinting techniques etc etc. As part of my medical training, I also had to attend post mortem's.

[@Baglady111]

Or, slightly less tin hat …….. they heard where he was, followed him, he realised, started rushing and fell. Either way, there’s way more to this than we are being told. Feel like we will get drip drip info for next few months.

[@REALHARSH]

More than likely

[@alisondavies8944]

That timeline and the info on his phone are crucial …

[@REALHARSH]

100%

[@AquariusGirl27]

Absolutely 👍🏼

[@Sloan341]

100%

[@thornbird6768]

That phone would have been wiped !

[@ch3micalromanc369]

​@@thornbird6768don't matter if it is wiped everything can be took off that phone by specialist 👍

[@joannulty5494]

👏👏👏I agree what you say harsh We the public can we have a breakdown of what this go fund me is being spent on ?

[@Redemption660]

Break this down…get a life.

[@sammycinnamon7300]

You might want to flag up her quote if "I haven't asked for a penny"! Shameless in every respect

[@janettinkler2204]

Instead of wasting money hiring people to find the exact spot he was found which no longer serves any purpose why doesn’t she use the money to hire a private investigator to find out how he really died, because if it was my son I would sell everything I owned to find out !

[@jennymason-sm1bk]

Hi Harsh looking good in spite of the exhaustion. Well well well talk about milking the cash cow. They've already been very shady about the expenditure of some of the funds. Love from South Africa 💙💙

[@Yonder792]

Got plenty of money to get another autopsy unless they knew what happened to him all along. Just read the PI comments on Insta and he says he will do a video 'when the time is right', I very much doubt it.

[@SuzyO-s2q]

Very strange and sad the parents couldn’t see there son because the police wouldn’t allow them weird. I hope when he arrives back in the uk there’s another autopsy. Something not quite right with this situation.

[@AACE73]

Why fingerprints & not dental records?? Were his teeth knocked out of his head?

[@jerzywoking1699]

It was known he had a criminal record, so easier for Spanish police to cross check the prints with British police. Have you heard of GDPR?

[@AACE73]

@@jerzywoking1699 so they can't use dental records because of Data Protection...?

[@PrivateEye121]

I'm from a little council estate were many murders have took place, but none of the murders have been as blatantly obvious as this, and I've been clubbing with Raoul Moat on many occasions.

[@ThaCatMan]

Yeah course

[@Chelskie-darts]

North east of England then 😂?

[@PrivateEye121]

@ThaCatMan Yeah course This is more blatant than the Viv Graham murder. We all know who did it a family that's been cahoots with Northumbria Police for over 35 years...

[@Carlysimon99]

What's clubbing with Raoul most Moat got to do with it?

[@PrivateEye121]

@Chelskie-darts only one party place in the north east. And it isnt Middleborough or Sunderland your are little no marks compared to us.

[@newton1878]

The GUARDIA CIVIL have been pretty incompetent from day 1 of the case and appears to have just gone through the motions What clothes and belongings are they? and why were they not on his person still no info regarding watch and was not his key and bag supposedly lost ?

[@Redemption660]

Deluded

[@KKC2-o3z]

Boils down to...exactly how much more money does the family need to do right by their son who went missing and found passed away? Is $70 grand not enough? Likely, yes it is more than enough. So why continue asking for more $? I'm curious to know if any of the reward funds went to those who found Jay? When does asking for financial "help" start to appear greedy and ungrateful? And, is this the type of mentality/thoughts the family would want related to their son's memory. Personally, i would not.

[@bellgames2937]

Murdered before he got to masca😮

[@patriciabrown8301]

Did not see one tear shed from her eyes a couple of sniffs and that was it why would she think he had been kidnaped thats what she said let him go a greed thats all it is greed

[@kimmiec.peridore886]

Welcome Home, HARSH! So happy you and Mrs. HARSH are home safe and sound. You look Amazing and are rocking the tan! Happy Monday!👍♥️👏🥰

[@JG-fh8kv]

The Spanish police jumped to conclusions as to what happened with zero evidence, but likewise the parents silence and acceptance of the investigation also, their words were only to to direct the public to the GoFundMe, hopefully there is a British investigation.

[@jerzywoking1699]

Explain how the Spanish police jumped to conclusions? What evidence do you think there is that thru missed?

[@JG-fh8kv]

Evidence is not conclusive only a convenient narrative that he fell off a cliff by accident

[@DavidMathieson-hf4ip]

Looking at this logically, You would not head uphill to get back to sea level, not even a teenager could be that stupid, He was said to be scared according to M,W,T.and made certain actions about that ....That could very well be going the wrong way to try and avoid certain people, has the bnb lady said which way he had gone to these people and he has been chased for a reason , ultimately leading to a fall....This will be almost impossible to prove unless there were witnesses.....

[@judithtrigg1694]

My opinion is the fingerprint came off his lighter.the coronor has not stated on what the fingerprint was taken from we assume it was the body which looks unlikely.

[@REALHARSH]

That is a valid point but that would then not be able to be used as official evidence of the body being Jays IF it were off an object rather than the body itself.

[@lesleydrew1629]

@@judithtrigg1694 could be multiple fingerprints on a lighter.

[@RayD67]

Finger prints, at 4 weeks, is impossible, especially in that heat n climate apparently, 4 days at the most

[@REALHARSH]

Yeah, I’m very sceptical

[@FontaineDerby]

Fingerprint expert Allen Bayle, author of the UK's standard police manual on dead hands, said, "One of the last things to disappear when you die are your fingerprints.They're very durable." When Haans Galassi lost four of his fingers in a wakeboarding accident on Priest Lake in northern Idaho, he joked that his severed digits were now “fish food.” It turned out he was right. Three months after the incident, one of the 31-year-old’s fingers was found in the belly of a trout caught by fisherman eight miles from where the accident had taken place, BBC reports. Even though it had been slowly decaying in the water for weeks, police were able to fingerprint the lone digit, which led them back to Galassi. How Long Do Fingerprints Last After You Die? One of the tell-tale ways of identifying a body, fingerprints can still be of aid, even after you’re dead. BY JESSIE SCHIEWE

[@jaredwoodward919]

​@@FontaineDerbyand there is always dental records and dna.

[@journeyintococo6996]

@@FontaineDerby - Look up Idaho's and Tenerife's climates.

[@FontaineDerby]

@journeyintococo6996 Haans lost his fingers in June. They were recovered in September. Slater was found in a shady 600 foot deep ravine. Please explain the difference between the two climates. If you reply, "Do your own research", I shall know that you have no evidence. Thank you.

[@VikkiOddsocks]

Glad to see you back in one piece. No mishaps and all home safe again. Yes, I agree. There's a line isn't there. I've heard of other Gofundme situations where people are asking for donations for funeral costs so I'm supposing they don't have life insurance for such things. Altho you don't expect the young ones to die before they've really had a chance to live do you. I think of funerals like weddings, you can spend thousands on them if you want, but you don't have to. Funerals are for the ones left behind more than the deceased - they're already gone. Why not keep the funeral costs down and donate the rest of the Gofundme to help other people who need it, or set up a charity in Jay's name teaching young people how to survive beyond their own front doors.....the great outdoors comes later.

[@RachLangford-qd3ut]

Glad for your safe return. Keep up the good work x

[@lorrainek1122]

2nd autopsy needed

[@nurse2recover425]

If he was very deteriorated i am not sure you would get finger prints off him after 29 days

[@journeyintococo6996]

Under those conditions they would be no good after about 4 days.

[@FontaineDerby]

@@nurse2recover425 Fingerprint expert Allen Bayle, author of the UK's standard police manual on dead hands, said, "One of the last things to disappear when you die are your fingerprints.They're very durable." When Haans Galassi lost four of his fingers in a wakeboarding accident on Priest Lake in northern Idaho, he joked that his severed digits were now “fish food.” It turned out he was right. Three months after the incident, one of the 31-year-old’s fingers was found in the belly of a trout caught by fisherman eight miles from where the accident had taken place, BBC reports. Even though it had been slowly decaying in the water for weeks, police were able to fingerprint the lone digit, which led them back to Galassi. How Long Do Fingerprints Last After You Die? One of the tell-tale ways of identifying a body, fingerprints can still be of aid, even after you’re dead. BY JESSIE SCHIEWE

[@pedroloco9327]

@@FontaineDerby I was interested until you mentioned the BBC

[@FontaineDerby]

@@pedroloco9327 Loco

[@Redemption660]

@@journeyintococo6996says who?? A student who posted a video sat in his van?? He would be more believable if he hadn’t spent the first 9 minutes of a 12 minute interview giving his own conspiracy theories…he’s not a reliable source.

[@Recordings-ov4hv]

Welcome back, you've got the nicest of tans 🤩 Thank you for the great investigaton work!!

[@scarletlea5748]

Lovely sun tan, hope you had a great time. I actually thought Mrs Harsh was 21 cause she looks it. Love the way you explain everything in your own unique way 💯

[@karenmillar1588]

Very deteriorated but not deteriorated enough to stil be able tol get prints apparently.

[@AndrewMurphy-y4q]

I recon he was gone before he fell down the mountain if it’s him

[@ICantRemember-k2q]

The last person to see Jay alive, was the person who said Jay chapped their door…

[@bernardm2528]

Who was that remind me

[@83JRP]

Shameless

[@SteveTheCockney]

Welcome back Harsh🇬🇧 So the parents have been warned his very badly decomposed, yet they were able to identify Jay from his fingerprints after supposedly 29 days of decomposition??

[@REALHARSH]

Apparently so mate

[@sarahmitchell8385]

I thought they identified his body using dna, supposedly his family gave police his toothbrush and other belongings ?

[@SteveTheCockney]

@@sarahmitchell8385 I’ve not heard DNA testing , only fingerprints 🤔 I hope your correct

[@missxsbalanced-hw8nl]

Laid my dad to rest today. Best dad ever. It cost us approx 6k. If we wanted to push it to the max say 12k. Repatriation even if 20k (which down South is approx 7.5k) still leaves 38k. Got the grandkids outfits in M&S and cost £300, so bought on Temu for 9.27 and returned the m&s outfits ☮️

[@Lionessa8]

As parents I’m sure they have the right to see and identify their own child. And they definitely should. They don’t want him seen, coz then they’ll notice that he was beaten to a pulp. Or possibly stabbed. The parents need to get a second autopsy done. They better not pressurise them to cremate him. If the body deteriorated how did they get fingerprints. Why is every thing in this case so fishy!!! No wonder none of us can let it go… it’s haunting everyone that invested anytime in this case

[@CherDavis-pk5sn]

Maybe it's not even the remains of Jay, but someone unfortunate homeless scapegoat who's been dead for weeks.

[@Lionessa8]

@@CherDavis-pk5sn so possible. This case is so damn shady. I hope the truth comes out soon.

[@AlexaLake7]

It's no wonder why Jay turned into what he was. Seems while he was growing up, the parents didn't instill any ethics into him.

[@traceymitchell6619]

Let them pay for a funeral themselves. When people are in need the public should be funding essentials only, anything extra the family should stump up for. She wants the public to pay for the send off he deserves? How do we know he wasn't murdered because of criminal activity he was involved in? These greedy opportunists do not deserve another penny, they were already given more than enough. If they chose to squander money generously given on friends and family, not our problem. Bloody cheek they've got.

[@janettemccubbin8246]

Welcome home, hope you and the family had a great holiday.

[@S-T-E-V-E]

The wouldn't have been able to visually identify him after 28 days dead lying in the sun!

[@captainflint89]

his body would have been almost skeletal in that climate . animals,birds, insects, moisture and heat will do that very quickly . if it was an arid , cool and dry climate with no bugs and zero humidity there may have been better preservation of remains but even with ideal preservation conditions the skin still slips, bloats,bursts and then shrinks as it looses moisture as environmental mummification begins. only freezing or nearly total freezing conditions would allow for decent fingerprints to be taken and confirmed so quickly

[@Lucy-t6d]

If he fell into a ravine the wild boar would not be able to get down there and not many more animals nor birds etc. The weather when he went missing was not very hot only in low 20's

[@REALHARSH]

I agree ☝️

[@CherDavis-pk5sn]

Strange how the crows didn't circle and squawk in unison as they would do if a body were decomposting below. Very quiet crows.

[@SamBrown-t8k]

What is odd is guy number 2 has refused to come forward and speak. So even before Jay's body was found that bloke wouldn't speak. I think if someone you'd been with in recent hours went missing if you're not guilty of anything and believe he could still be alive then come forward. I think it was pre-meditated murder. Booking the B&B in a remote place at the last minute....why???

[@sharlakehoe6864]

Your theory makes a lot more sense than the narrative that he went off walking

[@lulasnannajodie7723]

I live in spain and i looked into it 6 months ago, 3,800 for my body - or ashes is 500 for paperwork and permission to transport human remains - even if it ashes - still human remains, gotta proove its a legit death not under suspicion. When my friend was killed in a crash in uk - her parents were refused to see her as she was in a mess

[@REALHARSH]

I was emailed the same costings too mate

[@lulasnannajodie7723]

​@@REALHARSHdon't know if it makes a difference to cost if you are a Spanish resident like myself or visitor but I doubt it - does holiday insurance include death costs - I've never had insurance to travel - maybe his insurance covers it - if he had it or is it just medical insurance?

[@lesleydrew1629]

After all that time in the open all the skin would have virtually gone, only bones remaining. Getting finger prints would be impossible, so they've lied about that. The body is made up of 60% water, after 4 weeks would not be much left.

[@TWSPR]

so how do they finger print Mummies.... cos they certainly have. just because you do not know how they do it does not mean it can not and has not been done.

[@jaamieeeex]

@@TWSPR Yeah mate because mummies are defo not embalmed (which is literally meant to preserve them) and placed in a coffin are they? They're defo in the elements, which is hot with lots of animals and insects around , just like Jay Slater's body allegedly was? You can get fingerprints from the ridges but if his body is so deteriorated I'd be 95% sure these would have deteriorated as well. Considering the tissue on your fingers is very thin compared to other parts of the body. Stop trying to sound like a clever clogs over the internet you melt.

[@pooooornopigeon]

​@@TWSPR Wrong climate for natural mummification.

[@TWSPR]

@@pooooornopigeon the point is there are ways and means of getting finger prints just because you do not know the how doesn't mean it wasn't done.

[@Ajpr2]

@@TWSPRmummies get mummified after death to preserve the bodies you donut if jay was there for weeks he wouldn’t have skin left

[@S-T-E-V-E]

'Moonwalked away from it!' 😂👌 That's exactly what he did!

[@lyndadavis6829]

Great channel...the parents need to produce receipts of where they have spent the money

[@Tttn.i]

Thiers actually a repatriation charity in northern ireland thats has funds to return uk ciztizns and just give donation to the charity

[@irenemcc1467]

Hundred percent, Harsh - I'm with you all the way

[@teresab126]

What kind of parents would be ok with not verifying it was their son 😱😱😱😱