Does immolate realy help that much ? when I was playing a warlock in late t4 early t5 most of my gear was +shadow damage, is immolate still worth the gcd ?
@KnotxD3 жыл бұрын
Hey! When I first looked into this myself, I was a little surprised also. But from what I understand, due to the higher base damage and shorter cast time, Immolate is pretty efficient and often optimal to maintain. However, later in the gearing process, it falls off as you get more spell power generally - again Shadowbolt just scaling way too well. That said, I would assume if you were say mostly Frozen Shadoweave + the off pieces found in karazhan for example, it may be that it is cut from your 'rotation' sooner. This in hindsight is something I should have mentioned, thanks for contributing this question!
@MZhao-fl7qm3 жыл бұрын
just nope , bind your 1-9 key all sbolt
@KnotxD3 жыл бұрын
@@MZhao-fl7qm Extra penitence, sounds good.
@KnotxD3 жыл бұрын
So I just saw a great breakdown of immolate as Shadow Destro by Fierywind on Kargoz's Dark Portal Podcast. I'd recommend it. Essentially you take points out devastation and put them in improved immolate and take conflag as it's only 1 point and good to cast when forced to move. I'd highly recommend checking out the podcast here: m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/hGTRopuhnbmjY9k
@glorrin3 жыл бұрын
@@KnotxD thanks, currently watching it :)
@jayce54213 жыл бұрын
By far the best and clear warlock overview, aswell as accurate statements! Keep going buddy!
@Sikdomeshot3 жыл бұрын
I'm so fucking excited for this expansion to come out. TBC was the very first time I played WoW and the nostalgia will be real!!!
@KnotxD3 жыл бұрын
Same! I joined super late vanilla and didn't see anything but TBC is full nostalgia mode for me too, I can't wait. Hoping for positive announcements for it at Blizzcon next month!
@Mo13GoW3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that you adjusted for level 70 scaling, nice attention to detail. Great guide once again!
@Crix_Gaming3 жыл бұрын
Very well put together Guide. :)
@bikemellon3 жыл бұрын
This is EXACTLY what I was looking for - thank you
@TheLinkHero13 жыл бұрын
I really like these guides. Funny and informative.
@IMZAMORAK3 жыл бұрын
paladin, prot and holy next. would like to see
@craigferge47022 жыл бұрын
the virgin immolate vs the chad shadow bolt
@Caperfin3 жыл бұрын
Forgot to mention Shadow Embrace(affl talent) for tanks. Also, as we learn more about TBC-classic, boss fights intrinsically become shorter(knowledge is power) giving more credence to short cast spells, hell even conflag has its merits in move fights. Do you think we'll reach a point where Fire warlock deals more dps than Sbolt Lock? Something as simple as FlameBuffet(engineering) working properly would've made Fire warlock skyrocket in Classic. Similarly is BlackBook(trinket) if it would've been approached differently in Classic would also bolster Fire warlock dps, it actually might in TBC :)
@KnotxD3 жыл бұрын
To be honest, shadowbolt scaling seems a little ridiculous, but I did also hear about the classic things that could have aided fire warlock in classic. It's worth noting that if done properly, the full fire destro build is still pretty strong - more than Affli after the initial stages for example, and is pretty similar to a mage on ST, as far as I can tell but there isn't too many logs of fire warlocks from private servers.
@seanbailey85453 жыл бұрын
Actually from playing many tbc Pserver launches, There is usually a lack of warlocks. It's mostly hunters I find an amass of. Or just melee.
@peter-szaboerik42873 жыл бұрын
Very true man, there will be more on after sime time, but at lauch they are needed everyhwere and there is not enough of em.
@woopz60103 жыл бұрын
This is exactly what I was looking for. Great video mate!
@tsui10243 жыл бұрын
Firelock is actually the theoretical higher single target dps spec with Immolate and Incinerate provided that you have Improved Scorch on the boss.(requires you to go have spellfire set though)
@KnotxD3 жыл бұрын
That may be true, I've heard from some locks that FIre+Shadow is perhaps the way to go if tuning is quite easy, as you can ditch some of the more tanky talents that pure shadow usually takes for improved immolate and conflag for DPSing more whilst moving. I'll be very interested to see the post-launch developments of Warlock personally.
@frankthetank96673 жыл бұрын
Would love to see one on survival hunter
@SargntSagara3 жыл бұрын
Resto Druid! Resto Shaman! Retri Paladins! Rogues! plssss Keep up with the videos! awesome content
@imek82833 жыл бұрын
great vid dude
@kevinserrano16233 жыл бұрын
Sounds like shadow destro lock with Jewel crafting and enchanting is gonna be it
@bsho74503 жыл бұрын
To mention... Blood Fury in WoW classic is only for melee damage and not spells.
@cm93343 жыл бұрын
It changed for tbc
@blacksabbath25593 жыл бұрын
thanks for the vidéo
@MrBack19903 жыл бұрын
Will lock be overplayed? Resulting in hard to obtain raid spots? Classic right now guilds/raiding dieing for locks. Will TBC be over amount of locks, resulting in being passed up on in the lfg or lf guild channel?
@KnotxD3 жыл бұрын
Good question, I am not sure to be honest. On face value, they *should* be overplayed but some people have reported that Hunters are the most popular, with Warlocks not being overpopulated on private servers (see a comment by Sean Bailey on this video). That said, If I were considering warlock, I would at least assume they will be popular. That said, the only class you regularly take more of in 25mans are shamans. So, warlock is probably pretty safe in terms of finding a guild regardless of how popular they are.
@Capabletango3 жыл бұрын
“As always %#$& 5’s” lol
@obszczymucha13373 жыл бұрын
I'll summarize Warlock in TBC for y'all: Spam Shadowbolts. gg
@Kaasbaas12343 жыл бұрын
What's the best pet for leveling dungeons and for raids?
@GLaustra9263 жыл бұрын
Settle it for me - what horse race am I rolling for a pvp heavy Warlock? The amount of arguing I see of orc or UD is ridiculous.
@KnotxD3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I would always go UD for TBC PvP, there's so many fears to contend with by the most popular comps that it's close to having another trinket. Orc passive is still great but given the nerf from 25 to 15%, I think UD is the play. If in doubt - side with Klimp as a warlock and he plays UD ha.
@GLaustra9263 жыл бұрын
@@KnotxD thank you sir appreciate the reply, I like looking at the UD better anyway so you’ve made up my mind
@jujucasar20033 жыл бұрын
You are much better off getting 2/2 grim reach. Improved imp doesnt do enough. Grim reach is way more important and might as well get shadow burn. 43-0-18.
@AdvancedSquadLeader3 жыл бұрын
I'm going Undead for looks. Will focus on PvE. I'm a mediocre player. Will forgoing Orc put me way behind?
@KnotxD3 жыл бұрын
Nah not way behind, you'll be fine
@AdvancedSquadLeader3 жыл бұрын
@@KnotxD the numbers I have suggests a couple %
@lserranoit3 жыл бұрын
Why 3 talents on nether protection? Just want to understand.
@KnotxD3 жыл бұрын
For difficult encounters it's useful for survival but tbh it's mostly a hangover from the overturned private servers. You'd be best taking improved immolate and conflag instead for classic since the tuning is alot lower.
@SoliiD3 жыл бұрын
Ok, but what is the best talent build to lvl?
@dinospumoni56113 жыл бұрын
Would you mind showing where you get these tbc parse leaderboards from. Ty
@KnotxD3 жыл бұрын
Legacyplayers.com but they've completely overhauled the site and last I checked it was impossible to get rankings now
@dinospumoni56113 жыл бұрын
@@KnotxD ah gotcha, thanks either way
@SeanFortress3 жыл бұрын
Will this be a good choice As first fresh char without any gold and items?
@KnotxD3 жыл бұрын
Warlocks are really strong and have quite a few decent farms for gold irrespective of professions, so I think so.
@KezJUNGLIST3 жыл бұрын
i had rust open in the background, was that c4 necessary i shit myself
@vide0gameCaster3 жыл бұрын
What is the website for the TBC parses please?
@chei863 жыл бұрын
Enhancement Shaman pls
@MrFree-vj8qj3 жыл бұрын
The devs were smoking crack when they came up with seed of corruption : dev1: sssss... Hey did you realize rogues have no significant AOE beside a talented long cd? Haha arent they useless in raids? They got the Spriest aoe hahaha Dev2: Shhhhhh... Yeaaaaa... lets give warlocks a third devastating AOE
@WirRegierenRap3 жыл бұрын
what prof do i pick for my warlock`?
@Dzeividz3 жыл бұрын
Did you even watch the video ffs...
@WirRegierenRap3 жыл бұрын
@@Dzeividz sk my dc
@egoish67623 жыл бұрын
Still no mention of human giving more rep in the most rep grindy expansion ever. Difference between races is tiny, but everyone has to grind the reps.
@KnotxD3 жыл бұрын
Faster reputation isn't performance, its just quality of life. The value of it is entirely personal, that's why it's not mentioned.
@egoish67623 жыл бұрын
@@KnotxD fair, though if you're amore casual player on ally side you lose less than 1% to be attuned with less effort and have the gear pieces faster. Once we're deep in TBC gnome is a tiny amount of int better but depending on who your target audience is human might be worth considering.
@KnotxD3 жыл бұрын
@@egoish6762 For sure, I agree on that front. Alliance side there is a lot to be desired from racials for casters in PvE, so going for your favourite or the ease of life is definitely a strong option.
@athieshgaming26593 жыл бұрын
I think that you are missing one caveat in contrast with the other "meta chasin monkey" dps class and that is Threat. Your dps will only go as high as your tank can generate threat. Hunters get multiple full threat wipes a fight and a warlock will get a one time 50% threat reduction. In top guilds with baller tanks this might not be an issue but Hunters are more resilient to poor threat generation than warlocks.
@KnotxD3 жыл бұрын
That's a good point for sure. Outside of metagaming quite aggressively, there are limitations due to threat. Hopefully they don't tune the bosses like 2.4.3, otherwise it will be a non-factor because tanks will be able to go full threat gear all the time - I remember 2.4.3 bosses falling over so easily towards the end of TBC.
@athieshgaming26593 жыл бұрын
@@KnotxD I hope they don't tune to 2.4.3 as well. Shorter bosses will also make threat less of an issue since you can Soulshatter earlier.
@Crix_Gaming3 жыл бұрын
The length of the fight won't affect Shatter that much, because you don't want to Shatter early. The want to hold off on Shattering as long as you can without pulling. Because the longer you wait, the more Threat you're halving. For example, If you Shatter early at 20k threat, you just wasted your CD. Because yo'ure only halving 20k(to 10k) versus Halvign threat when you're up at 50k+. Alot of Warlocks issue with threat is that they're opening with Bolts right at start, then critting 1-2 and shattering because they've got threat. That just means soon you'll be right back on the Tanks ass and having to wait for MD's to come back up or for you to drop threat. As soon as Locks open correctly - Curse>Immo>Corr>Sbolts, sometimes tossing a second Corr, but you really shouldn't have to. Then you're able to pump much better and it pushes Shatter out even more. Threat is in our Hands for the most part - Assuming your Tanks are playing/gearing correctly.