My Honest Advice to Warlocks in TBC Classic

[@Alin-oy5ne]

I can't describe the burnout you get after finishing this sets only to lose interest in raids since most of the armor gear will be obsolete.

[@bobsagnuts4260]

Yep I played mage on a tbc private server with 1x rate and the week after I finally completed my crafting sets I quit because I got burnt out

[@MrPeaceFroggy]

Only weak quit! Based locks stay and enjoy big numbers.

[@Shmucko21]

yeah i may end up just buying it .. ill grind some of it but im not going to burn myself out for it

[@goodshowmanythanks]

people seriously just raid for the gear? I raid because my guild is fun

[@Laborchet]

@@goodshowmanythanks seriously. Like yeah I want the gear but the actual content is fun and the guild/ppl make it more enjoyable..

[@lihisluikku]

Been a lock PvPer main since wrath was retail. Kinda hyped to test out arenas with the SL SL spec, which is apparently the most op state lock has ever been in PvP. Although I kinda hate how there must be tons of people rolling as lock. I usually enjoy my spec being less represented as it is fairly intimidating to play for beginners, having zero mobility and lackluster defensive CDs, and being reliant on hard casting.

[@Alin-oy5ne]

What no one mentions is the trouble of getting the primals you need for these cloths. Life mots are more common (since you get them through herbalism) but fire/water/mana might be harder to solo farm at level

[@vzwson4995]

Fire motes are easy as hell in Nagrand. Just need flying to get there. I was pulling entire fields in sub T4 gear.

[@Alin-oy5ne]

​@@vzwson4995 Elemental Plateau will be packed in the first month or so, BEM and SMV spots also. I've seen the pattern on classic launch but on TBC pservers also. I'm not saying that this will be a major problem but this video suggested the cloth cd (3 1/2 days) will be the only bottleneck and it's not that easy. Average/new players will have a really hard time and most likely postpone the set creation.

[@vzwson4995]

@@Alin-oy5ne your not wrong. Was being hopeful but it’ll prolly be gano city.

[@marrionmoogaming]

Farming motes will be impossible. This wont be like the old days where you wake up at 3am when server is empty to farm motes for 5 hours before you go to school. Now bots will populate these areas 24/7. Sure they can do some banwaves again but doesnt help like it didnt help banning multiboxing, SL areas are full with 5+ druid trains farming nodes.

[@basedbarackobama]

Engineerings mote extractors will be crucial for it

[@pcmnoname]

finally some good cloth cd content :D all those profession videos and here i get the informations i wanted! thanks!

[@alexmercer4642]

My goal for Classic was to level one of each class to 60, which I finally finished Dec 2020. And I put tailoring/alch on all of them for Arcanite and Mooncloth CDs. I think I'm gonna have my craftables pretty quick ;)

[@halilevren3601]

Social life = NOT FOUND.

[@russlemiller6574]

@@halilevren3601 I mean I did the same thing but I just paid Mexicans and Chinese too boost me lol

[@hayleydavis6691]

@@russlemiller6574 they are a great help

[@stotysiecy916]

Robes of Crimson order was Worth mentioning. 30 spell hit and 50 bsd and its not as expensive as shadoweave which you replace really quickly

[@Suprfli6]

Spellcloth is more expensive by far than Mooncloth and Shadowcloth on every TBC server and surely will be in TBC Classic as well so the idea that you can trade it 1:1 is not realistic. Also, you can't go spellcloth spec as a lock and still wear FSW Boots since they require Shadowcloth spec to equip.

[@VizerPS]

yeah the whole "trade 1:1" thing is naive. only guildmates who want to help you at a personal loss would go for that; and if they're already helping you at a loss, it almost doesn't even bear mentioning. might as well also mention that your guildmates can give you several thousand gold so you can buy the set in the first week people who make videos about classic WoW and TBC classic are really cut from another cloth... which is to say, the videos they make are not very good

[@MrCliverandy]

You can prepare the mooncloth needed for the entire raid right now before TBC comes out.

[@Suprfli6]

@@MrCliverandy He's talking about Primal Mooncloth, one of the three new TBC cloths.

[@MrCliverandy]

@@Suprfli6 . Owh...

[@BuscoAlmas]

well, in faerlina the shadowcloth is more expensive then mooncloth so you were wrong...

[@Bugumir]

I feel like the first part of your video suggests sacrificing all but sleep to the game, in order to gear up and get ready for raiding. It makes sense if one can take a 6 week hiatus from life, but for the rest of us, it's just not feasible.

[@Gamingsucksin2024]

Just play casual dude what are u crying about his name is meta goblin for a reason what is ur point here

[@nerassunspear2659]

Really enjoying these videos! Hopefully, TBC will come out later this year so we could use this knowledge you're providing us. I personally think that I'll go belf, so I'm just watching these to help me consider which class I'd play.

[@darthsphincter909]

WTT Primal Mooncloth for Spellcloth any number of times PST

[@Heartykek]

15 minutes of video badically to tell warlocks that they are the best class in tbc and that they should get tailoring as profession, thx a lot but everyone knew that

[@Heurecka]

and that would imply you arent already tailor for bloodvine set...

[@pappo666]

well Tail + ench is the best way to go untill you get BiS rings from SWP then remove enchanting and go LW ;D plus you need tailoring for the sunfire pieces

[@shroud4269]

@@pappo666 im considering getting enchanting for tbc, but I currently have 300 herb and I farm mara daily for ghost shrooms, stranglekelp, and thistleweed. So chill and great money. Is there something similar in tbc for warlocks like the solo mara farm?

[@KiarenGrae]

I cant wait too craft my "Breast in slot gear"

[@Brek_Kelstro]

Looks like I'm raiding in greens

[@dead4419]

looks like ur not raiding

[@bigjknee]

For firedestro you want the spellfire gear instead correct?

[@basedbarackobama]

The more I think about it the better alchemy and tailoring become. Consider this: everyone is gonna camp metal, herb, and mote spawns, everyone will be posting metal, herbs, cloth and leather, devaluing it. But alchemy and tailoring cooldowns can't be camped, they're local to your character and the cooldowns ensure the price cant ever become too devalued to not be worth it. In fact, I'd dare say these two professions will be the only ones that matter so I'd rush them on every alt I have, save one for disenchanting and whatever secondary, probably herbalist for the alchemists and then just go xmute specialization.

[@jonahgonzales4905]

Can anyone speak on the differences in gear between a fire and shadow destruction warlock? For example, a fire warlock wouldn’t want to use the frozen shadow weave gear right? I’ve been trying to find pre raid Bis lists for fire warlock so I can make a plan for getting geared and haven’t seen many people commenting on distinctions in gear for both specs.

[@d0k0night]

? The video just said it...you'll be crafting Spellstrike...you won't be going Frozen shadoweave for that...

[@jonahgonzales4905]

@@d0k0night I know that. I’m asking what pieces should be put in place of the frozen shadowweave gear.

[@zacharygrim760]

@@jonahgonzales4905 If you plan on going fire, you would use spellfire set instead of shadoweave

[@jonahgonzales4905]

@@zacharygrim760 thank you! Figured that would be the replacement, but didn’t know if there was something better.

[@pappo666]

@@zacharygrim760 why would anyone plan on going fire? o.o they will just be forced to go shadow later on so its better to prepare for that xD

[@Brendan123ization]

I know that some bis sites are saying the spellstrike helm and pants are bis but given the gold costs or time put in for them, is it really worth it when there are VERY close contenders that come from boss drops? Voidheart Crown from Malchezaar in Kara (56% drop) has triple the int, only 12 less hit rating (1%, made up elsewhere) and 6 less spell dmg and still has 2 sockets. Won't cost thousands of gold. Or shit, even a blue quest reward Evoker's Helmet of Second Sight - 3 more int, 7 more spirit, 16 less spell hit I guess (1.3%, can be made up elsewhere), same spell crit, same # of sockets and only 6 less spell dmg. Saves you thousands. Or the pants, Spellstrike Pants? Leggings of the Seventh Circle off Kazzak (19% drop) more than double the int, same sockets, only 4 less spell hit (0.3%), 1 less spell crit 26 to 25 big deal, and it has 9 more spell dmg. Free. Voidheart Leggings off Gruul (56% drop) no sockets but literally 30 more int so .5% more crit, 5 less hit rating (.4%), 3 more spell dmg. Again, free. There are a couple more options for each btw, but the point is - yes the spellstrike stuff is better, but only marginally and if you want to put in the hundreds (literally) of hours to grind and farm the mats and the gold and the alts for more CD, then go hard buddy, but you can get almost the same level of gear from boss drops/quests. So you'll be slightly slower on the charts, which translates into going from 2nd on the charts behind hunters to... still 2nd on the charts behind hunters. Some locks might pull ahead of hunters with a few lucky SB crits, but it's pretty 1 to 1 with hunters being first for pre-raid/T4 and locks/mages pulling ahead in T5 then in BT/Sunwell (T6) it's 1 to 1 again. You're saying you'll be around mage dps without these TWO pieces? Mages are right behind hunter and warlock anyway, and 2 pieces won't drop you that much. Relax. So to all the regular adults with normal lives, don't worry, you have lots of options without sinking your life into tailoring.

[@Brendan123ization]

And I only looked at T4 replacements, there are straight up better pieces in every single stat that drop from T5 like Cowl of the Grand Engineer from Tempest Keep. Beats the spellstrike hood in literally everything and it's a boss drop. Leggings of the Corruptor from Karathress in SSC better in every way than the spellstrike pants.

[@buildalifeworthliving4551]

TBC was so well designed as far as nuances throughout to force interaction. The Golden era of mmos...

[@pappo666]

i do agree it was teh most balanced expansion it was HARD for the top end raiders and PvP was the most balanced man i love it cant fricken wait

[@pappo666]

@@fredriksvard2603 its not a game its an expansion to a game ;D

[@pappo666]

@@fredriksvard2603 then you are in then dumb category xD

[@christiandiaz]

@@pappo666 what category am I in? :)

[@pappo666]

@@christiandiaz i dont know

[@mylenewhalen5375]

Really enjoying these videos and looking forward to TBC. I know I'm rerolling to resto shaman, and my wife is keeping her current hunter. Keeping an eye out for those videos. Thanks and keep them coming :)

[@bbdd1967]

Thanks for these @metagoblin

[@eukelarTV]

Only advice warlocks need “do whatever you want , you could be in all quest greens and still destroy everything within your spell range”

[@tripledipped]

going herb/alch myself i dont see the need since its only preraid for the most part ill be able to buy the BOEs as TBC progresses i dont need to be billy badass day one

[@-darrell]

I never bought that shit, even on a server with buffed content. Just farm heroics for spell hit gear & save for epic flying, imo

[@MrWickedsouls]

Fire lock is bad because you sacrifice imp. Imp fire does not effect seed of corruption. So playing fire in my oppinion is just that you get bored of one button spam.

[@pappo666]

but imp benefit rain of fire sure you cant compare RoF to SoC but hey it works for fire locks but i would NEVER even recommend to go fire destro what so ever in my guilds all locks either go shadow or GTFO

[@GHIBaal]

The only the we are not prepared for is the TON ON WARLOCKS that are gonna be there...

[@devilmikey00]

Yup, hunters warlocks and shamans galore. Paladins not far behind.

[@theDynamicSkunk]

yea but equally true for warriors and rogues... warglaives of azzinoth alone will make sure of that

[@GHIBaal]

@@theDynamicSkunk Nah they already all rerolling. Ofc not all but a significant amount. Only true Class lovers will keep playing those, but I am sure the majority of classic warrior- and Rogue- players are flavor of the month players.

[@theDynamicSkunk]

@@GHIBaal i think ur right but maybe not as much as you think. warriors and rogues are slightly less if not equally relevant to warlocks in arenas.

[@devilmikey00]

With level boost now being a thing try harding spellstrike got a whole lot easier. VPN through argentina, sign up 5 accounts, buy 5 level boosts and quickly level them to 60. The only annoying part would be getting everyone up to the the levels they need for the cloth CD's. Also, once you've got what you need you have a nice gold farming army just pumping out cloth every CD and why not make them all master transmute alchemists for the primal might CD as well? All that for the cost of roughly one subscription.

[@bungodunko4123]

how would that be 15 bucks? a level boost is 60 bucks on retail and prolly will be at launch. The subscriptions would be 15 each so adding that all up your looking at 375 total for that plan. I dont get how this could cost one sub even if its a 6 month sub.

[@Tobez]

Thanks for the video, MeatGoblin

[@Eiladel]

Hey guys warrior/rogue main from TBC. Want to roll warlock for TBC classic as I've been loving lock for wow classic. What's better fire destruction or shadow destruction for pve raiding? I'm hearing mixed answers

[@tdmc6428]

Shadow bolt destruction. Your rotation comes down to keeping up your assigned curse and spamming shadow bolt

[@johnredcorn4407]

Please do a iteration of this series for the priest, these videos are extremely helpful for people who never played tbc, thanks Meta *and hunter* lol

[@pappo666]

they are quite equal but you really probably dont want to play priest in the end game everyone will force you to go CoH since its not really worth having a SP for the "avarage" dps when there is so much better classes / speccs doing higher dmg. most will take 1 IF they are really a really good player but only for a couple of buffs if i remember correctly but yeah most priests in end game are CoH

[@johnredcorn4407]

@@pappo666 Thanks for the reply!, i will stick to warlock lol

[@pappo666]

@@johnredcorn4407 Stick to what you feel comfortable with but research end game don't listen to twats like the guy in the video about early game things change drasticly when SWP is released all locks forced to go shadow most priests forced to go CoH most classes has 1 specc that is forced warrior, hunter, shaman, druid, paladin etc are the exception dudu is quite useless to in their own way. bala is required but their dps kind of suck they are only there for moonkin aura. Feral dps can be REALLY high but it is insanely hard to pump it out. Feral tank is also really good but its fairly hard to optimize. Enha's dps kind of suck but there to boost melee dps with totem twisting. Pala has tank and healer never ever go retri xD and rogue dont go rogue unless you plan to only pvp they kind of suck in pve unless you are really good and get glaives fast. *EDIT* Reason i say research endgame is so u are not shocked when and if guild tells you to respecc to something you dont want to play but ofc you gonna need to read up on early game to so u don optimise the gear for wrong patch

[@christopheredwards5612]

Pretty much my vanilla TBC experience exactly. played around with all kinds of specs until just before black temple where shadow bolt spam got silly. Up til then I could do top 5 on most bosses with any dps spec.

[@DaydeeTV]

Wait, primal mooncloth and spellcloth don't share CD? (Video at 05:00)

[@reymo181]

non of them share cd

[@Erebus-oc9zq]

Hey Metagoblin. Fantastic video! Can I just clarify which tailoring specialization you recommend a warlock chooses. Are you suggesting we start off with spellfire spec to make the 2 pieces THEN change to Shadowcloth spec to be able to equip the Frozen Shadoweave set? Hope you find this message among all the chat! :D

[@TheUnknownOtaku]

Always raid and stay in raids forever and ever

[@cramit79]

What addon are you using to keep track of record Critical?

[@MrCliverandy]

The odd of having no SP in a TBC raid is as high as not having a prot warrior. Every healers will demand their birth right for the notorious mana battery. Just remove another melee to make space.

[@messermesut2272]

anyone know what will happen with tcg mounts and stuff? will the old codes still work? will blizzard make these mount buyable from vendors or as drops? tcg was big part of tbc experience overall, so yeah. legit concern

[@messermesut2272]

@@danbill9165 KEKW

[@meleacavlad7511]

The 2 items at the beggining, they are for lvl 70 right?

[@radu_10-c8z]

Nice videos , thank you for all the work done .... now after seeing all this i am 100% sure i will not play warlock ... 😱😂😂😂

[@biribiri7190]

Lock and Druid are OP in TBC, I Love TBC 😍

[@pappo666]

the part i love about tbc is that most classes are op if played well it was more about skill then class tbh

[@berettaxd7566]

Hell yea both my mains from Classic.

[@Lokana]

I mained a warlock through TBC and my guild got about half the server firsts for raid boss content. There's a lot of bad advice here. If your gear isn't very good, you should spec Affliction for improved Curse of Shadows to help overall raid damage. IF your guild doesn't have a Shadow Priest and / or Warlocks in the raid, you're likely a casual guild not making progression a goal in the first place. Once you start stacking Haste around the T6, late T5 stage, and you recruit a newer Warlock to take over being "Curse Bitch," then you should switch to Destruction and spam Shadow Bolt. You will not get great numbers as Destruction unless your crit and/or haste is high, so there's no point in going Destruction early unless you already have Affliction covered. Also, I was a Tailor / enchanter, but never bothered making any of what was suggested here. Just do Heroics, then start raiding. Only reason why you should be crafting any of that is if you're not in a raid guild.

[@mikecrf5020]

glad you took the time to write this reply for no one to care about LOL

[@Rathanii]

Warlock gang

[@PwrWordplay]

I always talk about playing another class but, i always end up back here.

[@reymo181]

i will be fire destro till the end. only awsome build xD

[@pappo666]

then you will end in BT if you even get there unless you get boosted XD

[@GravityDAD]

How can I quickly level 58-60 on my boosted warlock - horde

[@cruxe2372]

Quest in western and eastern plaguelands but save the dungeon quest until you hit 60 so you get the higher gold payout. Focus on gold so you go into tbc with your 100% ground mount speed. It will cost you are kind 650g total. Gear won’t matter too much as a boost bc you will replace the items with tbc quest and early dungeon rewards.

[@SD-vl9vn]

Meta - For the tailoring portion in this video, is the desired armor mix you stated the same for Spriest? I see some say Shadoweave pieces beyond the boots for Spriest so what are the differences between them and Locks for these tailored pieces? Great video as always and thank you.

[@NathanWithem]

The FSW set is great for Spriest until late T5 assuming you’re hit capped because of the raw spell damage. Stat prio for Spriest is Hit>Dmg>wtfeverelse, basically. Crit is essentially useless and haste only comes into play late into t6 when you have over 1400Sdmg. I can’t remember the exact magic number of haste but you’re getting an extra MF in between MB CDs then it’s back to SpDmg once you attain it.

[@SD-vl9vn]

@@NathanWithem thank you! New class and faction for me to try and enjoying it so far.

[@pappo666]

if you go priest and aim for end game content unless you become an exceptional player be prepared to go CoH

[@NathanWithem]

@@pappo666 COH is sooo gear, spec and brains dependent that it actually takes a good player to roll that spec. If you just want to be around for raids and do basically the minimum, run IDS so the raid benefits from your mediocrity. COH can run out of mana, IDS just wont.

[@pappo666]

@@NathanWithem well all that can be earned easily if you start in KZ as CoH you should have the skills needed to do SWP as an example. my wife was the main CoH priest on excal tbc server and she broke 3 Naga mices on M'uru xD it sounded like she was playing mozart on piano with her clicking XD "COH can run out of mana" either my wife is better then i thought or this is an inaccurate statement when she got her Blue dragon + alch trinket she never even needed innervate she had mana for days :S

[@lankeysob]

Would love to see these for other specs too(particularly the shaman specs)

[@rogerbruere2135]

Good video, but perhpas you missed the most challenging piece of getting this gear out. Farming all the motes/primals. Thats part will determine how easily the gear can be made.

[@d0k0night]

I think the assumption here is that you won't actually be farming those motes. You'll be in direct competition with every other warlock on elemental plateau and on pvp servers it's going to be an absolute bloodbath, not to mention your same faction can purposefully banish your tags to grief you. You're meant to haul as much gold as you can into TBC because you will be spending it all.

[@rogerbruere2135]

@@d0k0night which raises the one question lots of ppl are wondering. Will Blizz put a gold cap in or allow ppl to bring in 1000's of gold and let TBC have an overly inflated economy?

[@decadance12134]

Wait.... u don't get the buffs and u can't wear the armor if your not that specific type of Tailor?

[@chameleonedm]

So there are 5 tailoring sets. Spellfire, Mooncloth, Shadoweave, Spellstrike and Battlecast. Spellfire, Mooncloth and Shadoweave require you to be a tailor and be of the appropriate specialisation. By speccing you also make 2x of that spell cloth per week. You can still make 1x of the other two spell cloths. Spellstrike and Battlecast do not require tailoring to wear, but do require tailoring to recieve the set bonus. TL;DR If youre a clothie, pick up tailoring

[@Gr33nsurfer]

@@chameleonedm I thought Shadoweave would be the way to go for Locks or would it be better to go for another spezialisation and trade cloths which might be in higher demand?

[@Purkur]

Breast in slot?

[@VizerPS]

this video is 90% about tailoring and 10% about warlocks does it really take 10 minutes to talk about spellcloth CDs? people can do the arithmetic themselves on the effects of having more alts for more CDs

[@buildalifeworthliving4551]

It's helpful for me who doesn't know and wants to play tbc.

[@VizerPS]

that doesn't change the fact that a 2 minute segment was stretched to 10 minutes. there are other things to talk about, like the fact that warlocks have to respec to PvP or do anything besides raid. people who want to respec as little as possible will have a bad time with warlock then there's examining TBC private server statistics to compare the percentage of people playing warlocks vs the percentage of warlocks brought to raids. how do the numbers match up-does the supply fall short of the demand? or do 30% of players play warlock, following what people told them to play, so warlocks get benched? people would want to know that

[@chameleonedm]

@@VizerPS That's great but how do you expect him to get those stats?

[@VizerPS]

just as a bunch of classic private servers record and publish raid data in the interest of competition/checking relative performance, there are tbc private servers that do the same

[@d0k0night]

@@VizerPS Good points and with the WoW Classic community min-maxing attitude, it is a given that all the die-hard warrior mains who tore up the logs in Classic, WILL be rolling hunter or warlock for TBC. All of these same guys, have their new TBC mains all ready to go and have been gearing them up all this time. This means that profession slaves are nothing special and everyone's got them, so multiple alts all crafting spellcloth/spellstrike are a given. Warlocks/hunters will be absolutely stacked in raids come TBC Classic...take all the raids that stacked warriors and replace all those. You would sooner bench a mage than a warlock.

[@PrinceofDarknis]

warlock all the way

[@purelucknoskill5158]

The burnout after Getting spellstrike and sunfire after netherwing launch was immense....

[@pappo666]

hence why i didnt go there my old guild went to a different "recent" tbc server cant recall the name but i got to 70 and was like "Ehhhhhhh Classic tbc SHOULD come soon so id rather wait" *EDIT* While waiting on im a WoTLK server goofing around xD

[@zeloraz8101]

do one for hunter

[@pappo666]

tbh i have never seen a "high end" raid guild take a affli or demo lock specially not in the end game the benefit they bring is not at all worth it over the dps loss sure they are equal in the start but its better to plan for the long haul take 3 - 4 destro if they are not veterans it will give them time to get used to the game mechanics and the SUPER hard rotation ;) and positioning since u cant cast and run if you are not used to mechanics and tactics getting into the right position at the right time while casting can be hard so its better to advice a "new" warlock to go destro straight away

[@Seraphim262]

As he said in the video. Use it for T4. Not T6.

[@pappo666]

@@Seraphim262 did you read my comment? " if they are not veterans it will give them time to get used to the game mechanics and the SUPER hard rotation ;) and positioning since u cant cast and run if you are not used to mechanics and tactics getting into the right position at the right time while casting can be hard so its better to advice a "new" warlock to go destro straight away"

[@Seraphim262]

@@pappo666 It is not super hard and it dampens the experience if you cannot make "mistakes" while playing weaker specs. You acutally improve more if you see where you came from and feel your own limits rather than setting in this spec for the first time and never do something else limiting yourself for nothing to gain.

[@pappo666]

@@Seraphim262 you are really bad at reading arent you? did you see the winky face? ";)" this implies that i meant "Super hard rotation *WINK WINK joking" "it dampens the experience if you cannot make "mistakes" while playing weaker specs. You acutally improve more if you see where you came "" oh but they will high damage while moving and not overaggroing isnt all that common sense in my 17 years of playing this game (mainly on TBC servers) ive had this discussion a million times. ive had ppl on disc and vent back in the days screaming "OHHH BOI LOOK AT ME TOP DPS" then boom overaggro dead and is a waste of raid spot many many times. there is actually quite few people who can stay in the area of almost overaggroing do top dps and not overaggro and die this takes long time to learn for many ppl. *EDIT* I forgot to mention the millions of locks i seen killing them self on essance due to not fully knowing how to play the char and not knowing how to utilize abilities and the boss mechanics all this could be avoided if they had more time then just swapping in T5 and a good class leader *END OF EDIT* i also seen people doing good numbers but when it came to a phase shift and they had to move a lot they lose sometimes up to 80% of their total damage why? they dont start to stutterstep in time to actually get into that position. there are many misstakes they can do even if they start as shadow destro and many things they will need to start practising to have a chance to master when they get to SWP coz that is not a joke specially not if you are attempting to do it prenerf all abilities not only destro spells all has a use at some point in time to help or aid the raid or group (with a few very few exceptions) and knowing all of that should be on instinct not asking anything RL should know that you move from shit or move to shit witouth telling you. there is one boss where if you wait on RL call out its a wipe all has to be instinct

[@Seraphim262]

@@pappo666 Sorry I main a mage and people actually play this class bad so its a real problem. Sorry for my ignorance. :D

[@kevorka3281]

just get 17% hit bros and you'll top the charts. Let dots drop off before reapplying for max dps to mana output

[@avenoma]

good advice about the specs

[@pappo666]

i disagree with him about that tbh

[@JJ-tr6rx]

Did he say breast in slot?

[@evelic]

Adivece? Just push one button shadow bolt and see the meters skyrocket. Warlock was so OP in TBC.

[@pappo666]

totally wrong there is a LOT more about it then just spamming CoD / CoE and SB XD

[@BuscoAlmas]

Spellstrike helm is not worth, t4 is the bis helm for meta socket gem 3% crit increase, sinergizes with shadowbolt crit talent and ruin, sooo.......

[@-darrell]

I played warlock TBC & never bought the crafted set. Even on a server with buffed content heroic blues are fine as long as you are hit cap. That being said both warlock meta specs (shadowbolt spam PVE & SL/SL PVP) are boring as shit imo

[@tt55k]

I always lvl up with bandages so that is easy leveling tailoring

[@tftg458]

Bandages is first aid, no?

[@dead4419]

imagine farming t6 dkp since karazhan POG

[@prommerjakub]

lol true

[@kungfujoe2136]

my advice.... MORE DOTS

[@grampygamer8584]

WOW Classic was ruined by Gold Farming Boosters.. What will TBC bring? I dread to think. Alts???! TBC will be swamped with Multiboxers

[@helodiejaqucline2600]

Thank you very much for your video, which introduces many important tricks. For those players who are watching the video but have no time to farm gold, buying it directly from MMOWTS site is a better choice.

[@soulie2001]

Fuck the crafted pieces, dont get them

[@vzwson4995]

I think you're forgetting a major thing here. You don't go destro until about T5. Affliction out DPS's destro in every scenario until T5. With that being said, you're going to want to craft Frozen Shadoweave first over Spellstrike.

[@nicholasheaton1810]

Never once seen an aff lock in t4 content beat a destro lock. I played destro t4-t6 content on multiple private servers.

[@vzwson4995]

@@nicholasheaton1810 You don’t have remotely close to the required hit in T4 for Destro. T5 is the normal period to transition to full Destro from affliction.

[@nicholasheaton1810]

@@vzwson4995 What on earth does it matter if your spells sometimes miss if youre doing more overall damage than your competition? It isnt like dots cant miss. This is such a nonsense point

[@vzwson4995]

@@nicholasheaton1810 I'm sorry bud, do you know what spell hit is? Lol. You don't do damage if you don't hit my friend. I'm starting to not believe your history in TBC. You're comparing a 2 second shadowbolt cast resisting to an instant dot missing? Bro? You feeling ok?

[@nicholasheaton1810]

@@vzwson4995 You probably dont have the brain cells for this conversation, gl bud.

[@ldvl2782]

It will be almost impossible to farm these mats on pvp servers lol. RIP in advance to all the warlocks who will make this mistake

[@De_Nome]

If this is your honest advice then what is your dishonest advice? We are talking about warlocks here after all and we are supposed to be evil :D

[@Oleksandr-snk]

Will we get 375 tailoring in tbc prepatch?

[@pindiq]

even if we did it wouldn't mean anything as we have to cross the portal and train it in Thrallmar/Honor Hold

[@nastynotch8314]

Any warlock playing right now that don’t have 300 tailoring and you don’t have BiS in every slot should delete their character. Bloodvine is too fn good.

[@pappo666]

im bored of vanilla after being on nost for god knows how many years when nost was shut down i toke a break from vanilla so not played classic waiting on tbc yes bloodvine is good but dont mean all who dont have it should delete could be many reasons to why many dont have it I.E family, work, kids, not played classic etc etc imma jump in on classic when TBC launch

[@sarahshearman9227]

When he killed that Night Elf I immediately stopped watching 😑

[@LoqueXan]

Keep killing #FORTHEHORDE

[@pappo666]

that night elf should have expected it and hide xD

[@landofsyn2980]

Just buy some gold and buy the gear lol blizzard can give a shit less about these classic servers and it shows

[@Dudububu57]

cool, imma b banking, i made 6 alts with tailoring for mooncloth xD

[@howldread]

This is completly false btw, you can easily skip all the tailoring bullshit unless you want to speedrun or get world first and be super extra sweaty. Also, it will quickly become obsolete and cheap as time goes on because everyone has army of alts for professions.

[@WndR14]

Crix ROFL dude no one gonna take you srls if ur source of info coming from pepega warlock like crix. There is like 5 top class warlocks on endless and ur still taking advice from crix

[@AzIgaziMakk]

Some things i have to address here. Pet control sounds nice but some raid mechanichs hit you no matter what and the pet dies that's the problem with demo. And 2 things about Affliction (i was playing this spec raiding scene for years) The talent you mentioned on spell hit is totally useless cuz you still use shadow bolt after the DoTs which is huge part of the damage and that talent does not work on Destruction spells so as i said it's useless. The other thing about affliction late game you don't even talent Unstable Affliction you go for ruin in the destruction and you use only 1 DoT Corruption (well if you have to move then maybe Siphon Life but mostly Life Tapping actually) and then you spam Shadow Bolt and if you thing about Curse of Agony forget it you gonna use Curse of Elements cuz Affliction's CoE is 3% percent stronger (which is super nice btw) so might sounds disappointing but that's what's worth Shadow Bolt is that strong simple pressing other things (except Corruption) is lost damage. So the better gear you have rotion will be non existent.