WOW

[@fatnatpat9693]

imagine losing a mageblade roll to someone and then they die to drowning damage

[@pancakejamboree8700]

bro...

[@chaseonfroy]

I understand none of those words. But comprehend it nonetheless.

[@Purgers2]

I don't want too imagine that ;-;

[@Cipher8721]

damn big oof

[@johnnypeso5948]

Hur hur, true.

[@lukedeker4676]

Crazy how many HC players seem to not understand mob leashing as a fundamental concept. I mean im not good but i know not to hit stuff while I'm trying to get away

[@whateverjustposting]

srsly, that paladin who dies in kurzen compound could have EASILY gotten out of that

[@jonathanlarsson6719]

​@@aliceberethart rly? Ive thought about trying hc... But if this is scope of ppls abilities... Heeeeell no, I'd be pissed constantly in grps

[@Deya1337]

@@aliceberethart Its not that they're going in raw, most classic players are just bad

[@dangerousfelon]

​@デヤ here we go again with the retail morons pretending they are smarter than classic players 😂

[@DjxFelgrav]

I mean it's a mechanic that has disappeared now, you can't expect everyone to know how it works

[@opposingcritter]

These people are asking for it by going so deep into known death traps or really deadly dungeons.

[@NoFutureForG0uda]

you know, death wish

[@sunderwire]

Makes for great content though

[@heygek2769]

On the other hand, what is the point if all you do is fight isolated green level mobs?

[@NoFutureForG0uda]

@@heygek2769 trust the death wish, people push limits, you dont have to force them to.

[@Moldylocks]

As a cave-enjoyer I have to say, it is not about having a death wish. It is about the rush you get by staring death in the face and tell him "not today!". I even deliver Helcular's rod on HC even though 9/10 would consider it's a skip. Call me mad, I call me sane. Imho the mad one is the one who wants to kill green mobs all the way to 60 with single target pulls and play a mode which was made to challenge yourself, but ignoring the part about challenging yourself.

[@Tober13]

26:30 "When your attack misses 3 times you lose threat" - this sentence makes sense in real life.

[@KiiiiDFresH2oo9]

"Threat is a skill measure" Most classic replay ever.

[@nekolaiil]

I have no idea what's going on because I don't play WoW but Asmon is so informative with these videos. Rule 1 - Attacking mobs while running keeps them in combat.

[@Yambag]

You already know more about the game than people who have played for almost twenty years. Keep it up!

[@leonbishop7404]

yep. apparently it's called mob leashing and it doesnt exist in later wow versions(at least in wotlk aka wow 3.3.5a which I personally played)

[@Mewlover4]

​@@leonbishop7404 yep, classic WoW is where you could pull elite bosses through several maps to the main cities, this used to be a thing people liked doing.

[@holysecret2]

5:25 mechanical enemies are immune to hamstring, I'm pretty sure

[@magerr98]

people who choose to play tanks or healers in hardcore and go raiding/dungeoning are insane that's so much pressure lol

[@clamdigger1602]

It never ceases to amaze me that the absolute worst players are playing the hardest game mode.

[@Sheo.G]

Fr lol. Masochistic shi*

[@Yroxcruk666]

because most of the worst players in wow think they are pretty good, the fact that not everyone could clear classic raids quick shows that

[@acorr14]

I got back into Classic (co-incidentally at the same time as everyone else) to waste time while working on assignments and ended up joining a raiding guild. It's unreal how bad some of these people are. Literally the more they boast, the worse they're going to be.

[@rickroll9705]

@@ScottOverholt-z5i notr using feign death and even removing yoru own UI isnt a mistake, its being absolute garbo lol.

[@irritant623]

You're watching a video showing hc deaths, there's a lot of good hc players... look up sc deaths... oh wait it doesn't even matter lol

[@storm1OG]

So, basically the laser thing is WoW's version of, "Double it and give it to the next person." 😆

[@krushingkobra]

The Ghazrilla explanation was wrong: he was nowhere near the tank in threat. It was a threat reset but his frostbolt was already in the air and hit after the reset

[@Sheo.G]

Ye even the other mage next to him blocked, I guess he just didn't know

[@evanpage2540]

Watching people die in a video game as I slowly die a little more inside.

[@CMorpheus59]

We're slowly entering the "let's die on purpose and in the most stupid manner I can think of to appear in one of those videos and Asmon's stream" era

[@PaddyRoon7]

I wouldn't have thought anyone would ever waste their own time like that, but then again, teenyviolin is a real human

[@Syph1l1S]

yr acually bricked 2 think that

[@HartSirjin]

Watching streamers make literal Day 1 mistakes is pure *GOLD* . Nostalgia & Disappointment Embodied.

[@kklap3219]

the warrior in the cave made actual "panic mistakes", and didnt randomly forget how to play the game and start clicking empty actionbar slots. Most of the clips are the latter, completely unskilled, bored out of their mind, just hurts to watch.

[@ahys9954]

I played wow 10 years ago and this content is the best by far. Soo much I can relate to 😂

[@thatonedudea]

The amount of people who die while running away and continue to attack the mob increasing the leash range baffles me.

[@Tenjeen]

The lack of vanilla game knowledge is astounding among the playerbase, you can easily tell who did or didn't play it years ago

[@IamAwhiteMEXICAN]

These are the classic andys that say this was peak WoW mechanics and this is where it was truly difficult. 😅

[@ninjack11]

no comment on that warrior opening up his spellbook to cast Piercing Howl?

[@Moldylocks]

Say what you will but opening spellbook and clicking Piercing Howl is the most gigachad move anyone can make. Just unlucky they were immune. Otherwise it was godly gaming.

[@lucashernandez6843]

Another episode of "What the fuck is this guy doing here to begin with?!", my favorite show.

[@ccampbell02yt]

Love watching Asmon go over these, he has such a deep and comprehensive knowledge of the game.

[@Wordslay]

Doodi's death was unfortunate. He was obviously new to the fight and didn't know how bad the aggro reset was but it's also the raid leads fault for picking a bad spot to tank the boss.

[@Stolzeey]

17:05 he casted a frostbolt right before being knocked up into the air. threat resets and the frostbolt lands, giving him aggro. since there is no verticality for attacks in classic, Ghaz'ranka just onetaps him from below. Painful.

[@Tiwack01]

Exactly, so many dead casters this way way back in vanilla and now again in classic, it's a huge problem on that boss, dunno why they'd even try it on HC, it's quite possibly the worst raid boss out of all of them due to that bad timing of events.

[@Lazydino59]

I loved the other mage ice blocking like "yup i know how this ends"

[@AndreySolovyev420]

you know that party fucked up when the only person praised for teamplaying is a goddamn rogue

[@vanraily3364]

to the threat thing, every class has at least one skill to reduce threat so it's up to the other players to control their threat, rogues can feint, priests have fade, druids have cower, hunters feign death, etc. other classes that don't at least have abilities to deal with it like ice block, the only class that maybe is an exception is warlocks but they can sacrifice voidwalker to tank maybe one hit at least.

[@christophwhiteyz9787]

I couldn't play warrior tank with an ocean of ppl from retail who didn't understand classic threat mechanics. I tanked stratheholme several times and the patchwork mob at the end was the test if u understood how classic threat worked the amount of retail players who basically dropped pyroblasts right after the threat dump mechanic I was like I can't tank in classic any longer. Also they didn't mention the gear. Gear is so important.

[@Lazydino59]

most dps are warriors and mages who don't have threat drops, and feint/cower are awful anyways. Threat drops tend to be the exception not the rule in classic which is why you wait for sunders and play alliance for salv

[@aludrenknight1687]

That first one - my goodness. four people 1-tapped.

[@Tuskor130]

The way the first clip was timed made it look like the Chain Heal killed everyone it targeted lol

[@takingyoubackintime2453]

Thanks for another great video Asmonbald.

[@LewReviews]

Watching that war run hitting the mod not switching to Def stance was best thing I seen in years

[@Nobodyyoucarabout]

Warcraft Forever: The game begins in the Classic era, with players starting at level 1 and progressing through the various zones and dungeons of the original game. This content is largely unchanged from the original release, with some minor tweaks to balance and quality-of-life improvements. As players reach the endgame of Classic, they can choose to explore any of the three continents: Azeroth, Outland, and Northrend. All three continents will feature level 58+ content with quests that give high-level rewards and unlock certain dungeons and raids. There will be cross-continent questlines that intertwine the stories of all three eras. These questlines will provide a sense of continuity between the different continents and help to flesh out the lore of the game. As players progress through each continent, they will encounter progressively more challenging enemies and bosses. However, there will not be any additional requirements for unlocking content in the later eras of the game. Players can choose to progress through any continent they wish, without being required to complete achievements or quests in earlier eras. Additionally, all gear obtained in earlier eras of the game will remain relevant and useful in later eras. There will be no obsolescence of gear, and players will have incentives to go back and complete older content, such as rare achievements or items that can only be obtained in certain zones or dungeons. Overall, this hardcore version of World of Warcraft would provide a flexible and non-linear experience for players who are looking for a challenging and rewarding experience. By allowing all endgame content to coexist, players will have more options for exploration and progression, and all content will remain relevant throughout the entire game.

[@carmelosutera3649]

8:30 just did a quest in that cave. Killing the 10 commandos and the 6 casters. I am lvl 39 and don't want to enter this cave further than the first "room". The respawn here is a nightmare. Come prepared or dont go there.

[@aprilmayflower]

That rogue tho !!! 🎉

[@lenzor100]

Threat made balancing dps & survivability of the tank interesting for tank, healers and the dps. I really liked how it’s a thing in classic. The largest downside was thunderfury being a rng thing with too much affect on the raid/guild

[@CptMarkka]

Agreed. If threat is no longer an issue, then tanking and doing damage becomes kind of mindless. It's similar to removing resource management in the name of making things easier. Or homogenizing stats into primary, stamina, secondary 1 and secondary 2. One might say that "oh threat or getting hit/def capped is stupid and a waste of time", but without them you lose a significant amount of depth of the game system.

[@tompatompsson]

@@CptMarkka Do you think the game is easier now because you don't have to care about mana? The only reason anyone other than pros can do mythic bosses is because the "superfluous" elements of classes are gone.

[@lenzor100]

@@tompatompsson i don't play modern Wow, nor classic for a long time. However I absolutely believe that the current game is mechanically much harder. However I liked the planning & strategy of vanilla. It's just two different types of games, for different people.

[@MrDouceout]

Imagine loosing perditions blade and full MC BIS to a rogue who runs into 2 ony trash mobs on purpose

[@dmturtle2109]

i know hardcore mode has been a thing since (Diablo?) but you have to be a true masochist to hardcore a MMO

[@umrete]

9:29 I literally died on the same quest on Turtle WoW HC an year or so ago with my hunter 58lvl ... that quest is so hard doing it alone

[@genedanisebelarmino6580]

I haven’t played WoW for a while, but I just love watching Asmongold reacting to classic hardcore fun/dumb moments. Lol, makes me laugh

[@Name-hx1bj]

21:53 it's called self care, you learn it when you play healer and other mage used the ice cube

[@xys007]

9:20 Those mobs are part of the quest, there are waves of mobs, there are spawning right after killing last mob of previous wave. There is queen among mobs that spawned on him. It was the last wave. He should not go on this quest in the first place ... This is especially hard because on the way to quest re-spawn pretty fast too, so you have no way out if something go wrong ...

[@Moldylocks]

That quest isn't as hard as it seems. If you kill the last guy in each wave outside the room, the next spawning wave will not aggro you. Instead you can eat/drink/bandage whatever.. It's like there are 2 settings for this quest, either easy or impossible, just do the cheesy easy way guys!

[@Ghangis24]

2:45 This dude was 100% trying to farm a clip by having a close call and fucked it up on accident. Guarantee it.

[@levelupacademy121]

the biggest thing I have learned from these videos is the amount of classic players that still click buttons. Its astonishing

[@SC2Prototype]

There are ppl raiding mythic on retail clicking buttons. Ive seen shit man

[@matthewosterman9030]

I click lay on hands fight me

[@xMadara444]

As someone who is only a couple years younger than Asmon i really love how he took onto WOW.. From day one and is now a wise man with the knowledge people only dream of about WOW. You gotta put RESPECT on his name HES DONE THE WORK! MUCH love asmon your a badass

[@MikeLikesChannel]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but without Blizzard's support, HC is just an add-on... disable it and proceed with your toon normally after your first death?

[@AndrewIHanna]

we play hc because it's fun. I don't want to get a character to 60 anymore if it died, endgame isn't what it's about for us.

[@zhadez10]

Sure you can do that, but then you're not playing with the community anymore. I think the server is actually pretty lonely if you're not HC

[@daisu9818]

Solo warrior in the elite cave at 58 hc... my confident man i /salute you.

[@Moldylocks]

You talk about Ragnar? It's not an elite cave. Just normal bugs.

[@NateDynamite]

Asmon watching HC WoW deaths is some of the best content on YT right now!

[@Chilipotamus]

As someone who hasn't played WoW in years and has the faintest memories of these boss mechanics, it's great having Asmon doing play by play breakdowns of all these fails

[@ZapatosVibes]

I love how dangerous vanilla is. Starting right from the first zones, there's so much that can kill you FAST if you're careless. Perfect setting for hardcore.

[@ricwhite612]

feign death.... feign death...feign death.................WUT

[@sheilaizvernari7]

@11:03 the mini map for the underground tunnels are so deceiving..

[@Jokamole]

10:31 that's why you don't fight in basements or caves

[@RSIMaxed]

dying, but its my fault / ok. dying but the healers fault? pain

[@zhadez10]

Yeah it's also a bit the mages fault tbh, getting so low in the blink of an eye naturally scared the healer so he heals the mage once, probably starts another heal on mage but realizes mid cast that his tank needs the heal and by then it's too late. Healer still looks a little bit new but I think it's kinda unfair to judge someone by watching 15 seconds of gameplay 😂

[@NoFutureForG0uda]

11:23 to 12:15 clip with the dragons, dude is saying he basically didnt mean to click lmao

[@ZakalweDisenfranchised]

Hunters always finding new and imaginative ways to grief.

[@Krushak]

While some these deaths were a bit bs, it looks like a lot of the boomer hc classic players would have trouble even with retail levelling:P

[@СергейМатвеев-ш1э]

Retail leveling was made for these people not having any troubles

[@Moldylocks]

Most of those people you talk about probably came to HC from retail tbh.

[@Somkent]

I'd say alot of these preventable deaths from mechanics would be retail player not knowing the game tbh.

[@Set8060]

What kind of software are people using to record their gameplay? I’m thinking about doing this myself

[@novaomega7337]

The worst gamers ever seem to love WoW. I will never understand how so many can be so terrible at such a old game.

[@iksargodzilla]

I like how he has the range check in the middle of his screen and totally ignores it lol

[@JohnSmith-pn2ts]

That first clip reminds you why hardcore raiding isbso difficult because yes most classic mechanics are simple but you cant wipe and try again

[@AslanTheGold]

Dying while running away from a mob is one of the most infuriating things

[@apollolinaire2607]

Just don't run away

[@truepatrician4700]

Getting dazed is the worst fucking thing in WoW

[@kauepsapsa]

@@zachster2016 Just be a mage lol

[@jimmyb.5356]

getting dazed 10x in a row while trying to run away with like 10% HP.... yeah.....

[@hickspaced2963]

@@jimmyb.5356 Thats why You gotta learn How to strafe jump.

[@kckonnection2807]

1:54 Not only Feign Death, but what about Shadowmeld?

[@Sightbain.]

Dual wield tanking means you can big dick threat and damage but you kind of have to be overgeared and the risk of dying is massive unless you are running GDKP with hand picked top tier raiders all farming their 3rd and 4th alts who know how not to suck and even then it takes 1 mistake to kill you which is gg in hardcore. Threat is very interesting and fun to dive into but Asmon is 100% right when he says that it is not the sole responsibility of the tank to manage it, no tank can save you from some idiot pom pyroing a raid boss as the tank is still trying to get into melee on the pull.

[@Mcbuggler]

Dude, if I play hardcore, I'm not going in those bug tunnels... Strange stuff happens in those.

[@FroFTW85]

I feel like 80% of these clips are people purposely dying. Or at the very least. They go into an area, or pull certain mobs that they know will likely get them killed. Then there's some clips like that gnome mage drowning. He knew exactly wtf he was doing. He wanted to get that clip of him barely surviving. The fact that he died even after jumping outa the water kinda sucks, but it shoulda never got to that point.

[@eckology016]

I think you read what that commenter was saying about threat backwards. They meant that without threat, all that really matters is the competency of the tank and the tank can basically carry the raid. I feel like that's probably oversimplifying how important healer competency still is even without threat, but it's not wrong with respect to making DPS pretty much brainless.

[@Red_Bull_Fan1985]

8:14 CANT CANT CANT!!!!! he used bubble!!!!!!! cooldown in classic

[@DirectorCouch]

Honestly no idea, in hardcore do you go back to 0 when you die, or do you lose a certain amount of levels and/or gear ?

[@Laito21]

Those are the kind of players you face in a BG when you're doing some 1v2's or 1v3's

[@Lucyhehe_]

1v10 some of them clickers probably xd

[@Kropotkin2000]

I thought players got better since 2005. I was wrong.

[@asdsad17]

it's funny they're attempting to play hardcore when they don't even know the mechs.

[@zhadez10]

So?

[@shackn2444]

18:55 the other mage got it covered with Ice Block

[@nerdock4747]

Doing that Silithid quest as a warrior is bonkers already, why even TRY it on HC? I saw a warrior in wotlk doing it, they were 3 levels higher than the mobs and barely lived by popping all CD's. Meanwhile, I'm on my affliction lock and solo it (with all CD's) being 3 levels under. I swear to *GOD* that warriors have no idea that their class doesn't have self heals.

[@RagnokRaven]

NO! Threat is the best thing in Dungeon Classic WoW

[@bigbenhgy]

You can absolutely use lay on hands with forbearance in classic.

[@steen0059]

Aren't level 60 characters immortalized?

[@DetohGames]

That's turtle wow (a private vanilla+ server), when you hit 60 you get the title "immortal" and are no longer hc

[@cn9707]

As a hardcore player i avoid caves and I always spin my camera around as I'm looting to watch for the terrible respawns.

[@Gajsu1]

Hardcore is a social experiment to show the world how bad people really are at this game.

[@IRdatank]

Threat doesn't change based on range. Asmon is right, kind of. The threat threshold to take aggro is 110% if in melee range, while being 130% at range. You can be at 109% aggro as a rogue and never take threat.

[@madgearsx]

the legion clients hyper spawning griefs hardcore players.

[@jonathanlarsson6719]

This hurts my eyes too much

[@whiteboypwns]

that hunter was doing a no weapon no feign challenge i think

[@blakedavis4209]

If I've learned one thing from watching these HC death videos, it's to never do dungeons/raids if I want my character to live.

[@Sympanet]

People turning and smacking mobs they’re trying to leash baffles me

[@NeoIntelGore]

imagine being a healer in HC! First of all leveling and then the sheer amount of responsibility of not fucking up a heal and ruining someone else's 200h work. Oh boy and imagine a tank fucking up and letting one of the dragons in BWL turn and burn the whole raid...

[@david_a_sanchez]

That one rogue. Now that's a rogue. 5:59

[@Orgos6]

Just got home and this video dropped. I know what I’m watching for 30mins 😎

[@loel7084]

In asmonds world, rogues allways plays like a god. Its almost like the class has alot of tools that makes it look good when they press buttons.

[@mphillips5064]

jumps in water "your in there element" and its a water elemental

[@Knallgurke91]

at 11,08 its the quest is just hard it summon 3 or 4 waves with 4 mobs cannot do this alone

[@PlaymeoffSia]

DUDE HE HAS TIER HELMET !??!!

[@Sightbain.]

The mage at the end was managing his threat fine, his frostbolt hit mid air and he was donezo. He got GCD'd RIP him. As for a lot of the other players I just don't understand why they are doing high level quests in end game zones instead of farming out gear from green instances / crafting.

[@Lazydino59]

mage also got z axis'd, and from what i understand you are limited to 1 dungeon ID per dungeon 1-59 so you have to quest/mob grind.

[@alltidtratt3564]

You can lay on hands with forbarence? No?

[@zhadez10]

Ye you can

[@alexanimationentertainment9102]

“What the fuck was the healer doing “ 😂

[@NiteRacer]

Love the HC montages but I wouldn't want to play it myself because it seems like a never-ending cycle. Imagine spending 150+ hours to get close to 60 and then dying having to restart the whole thing out of frustration

[@cactuscantshoot]

I’m about to start playing hardcore and I’ve been watching these videos as a “what not to do” type of video🤣

[@HustlingStudentofLife]

Im thinking about it too, wanna duo?

[@cactuscantshoot]

@@HustlingStudentofLife man i dont wanna put anyone else through my two braincell struggles haha

[@saltworth2570]

gotta love when they panic and die when they can live.

[@TheTwerp]

I don't play hardcore so only an outsider looking in, but I thought if you reached 60 you were immortal? Some of these guys are 60, do they have to delete their characters?

[@generalgamer50]

Okay I haven’t played HC wow yet, but can you not revive in it? I mean the spell from priests?

[@smygulf]

This content really strokes my shadenfreude...lovin it!

[@jozefkovac6858]

Well some deaths are just... silly.

[@smygulf]

@@jozefkovac6858 agreed...you shouldnt play on a hc server before u understand how the game works imo

[@Moldylocks]

@@jozefkovac6858 My personal favorite was the warrior with all the water elementals, deciding the best escape route was through the ocean. Pure content gold!

[@wowvain2989]

@@smygulf sadly there isn't such a thing as a HC "server", its just an addon atm

[@Videodude810]

LEVEL 60 DIES TO NOT BREATHING WHEN YOU HEAR THE WATER BUBBLES FOR SOOO LONG LMFAO

[@IamIr0nMan]

I could watch Asmon yell at people for hours lol

[@Nedread]

2:32 So what happened here? Were they auto pathing using an addon? Tabbed out not paying attention?

[@zhadez10]

You don't need an addon to autorun. Yeah possibly sleepy and/or something on 2nd screen or some other distraction