Twin Peaks - The meaning of what Laura whispered

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@johnathanhass7413
@johnathanhass7413 6 жыл бұрын
Thought this might be interesting to share: in the past year, I've been fortunate enough to meet Kyle MacLachlan at a wine event in Hollywood AND David Lynch at a book signing for his new book. Curious about this very topic of what Laura whispered, I asked Kyle the question: was there an actual line of dialogue that was whispered, or was it gibberish? Kyle told me it was just gibberish. So, assuming he was being honest, we know Sheryl Lee didn't say anything discernible to Kyle. When I met Lynch, I knew better than to ask him WHAT was said, because of course that's not his MO (modus operandi). So I asked him "do you have in your mind exactly what Laura whispered into Cooper's ear in that scene in season 3?" and with ZERO hesitation Lynch said "absolutely" while looking into my eyes. So... while not knowing what Sheryl Lee's response is, I'm guessing this is something Lynch alone has the answer to, and not even the actors know.
@WowLynchWow
@WowLynchWow 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@FuriousTortoise
@FuriousTortoise 5 жыл бұрын
Brilliant detective work!
@victoriameyers1649
@victoriameyers1649 4 жыл бұрын
Can I get an invite to the next wine evening? (after the virus) so amazing and cool that you met David!
@Jirizo1
@Jirizo1 4 жыл бұрын
She probably said "It's ALL a dream." Would explain the : - ) ALL. text tulpa Diane got, this cooper was a tulpa created by the real Coop.
@marabou22
@marabou22 4 жыл бұрын
@@Jirizo1 I've wondered if it was "we live inside a dream." That's why we see coopers face appear on screen at the end of episode 17. He speaks those exact words. I've wondered if that's his face directly after Laura whispered to him. The look of surprise and concern.
@RemyMyer
@RemyMyer 6 жыл бұрын
Every time Wow Lynch Wow uploads a new video I feel like it's another new episode of The Return. This goes to show just how important and appreciated your work is, Wow Lynch Wow.
@karenweston2714
@karenweston2714 6 жыл бұрын
This is so true!
@holyreality02
@holyreality02 4 жыл бұрын
"season 4....maybe a season 5 and a season 6...." aww look at that optimism. it almost warms my heart
@riazaamer
@riazaamer 6 жыл бұрын
If you remember, in season 1 she whispered name of her killer, thus answering the central question of seasons 1 & 2. What is the question of season 3? "What year is it?". So, IMO she whispered to him about the time loop thing.
@jackspawn77771
@jackspawn77771 2 жыл бұрын
I think the question was confused on Cooper's part. It's not about when but where with where being the alternate universe known as our reality. Instead of time travel it was parallel universe travel but he didn't realize it initially.
@sirkayda7205
@sirkayda7205 Жыл бұрын
@@jackspawn77771 - I agree
@thisisnotachannel
@thisisnotachannel Жыл бұрын
"To save me, you have to change the past... PLEASE DON'T"
@pilouuuu
@pilouuuu 10 ай бұрын
@@jackspawn77771 she probably whispered to Cooper that they are characters on a TV show.
@abigaileldritch
@abigaileldritch 6 жыл бұрын
Another fantastic video! I feel like the ride of twin peaks may have stopped, but none of us are getting off the ride. And rightfully so!
@shirleymcdonald2777
@shirleymcdonald2777 6 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@OutlawMads
@OutlawMads 3 ай бұрын
twin peaks give two rides
@lateleigh
@lateleigh 6 жыл бұрын
I suspect the whispering scene was a way for Lynch to give the audience a clue regarding how vital listening is to the world of Twin Peaks. He has mentioned many times that there are multiple clues in the soundtrack. That leads me to think that it is not what Laura whispers that is important, but the fact that Cooper failed to listen carefully and ended up going wildly astray as a result. The same can be said for when the Fireman gave his messages at the very start. The clue Lynch was giving us was if do not listen, we will miss so many important details which will help us understand this series. Later we see the Fireman show Andy various images and sounds which give him direct and clear instructions without a single word. Andy immediately 'becomes' the old Cooper in his actions.
@danzohattori
@danzohattori 4 жыл бұрын
I watched a very in-depth analysis (so thorough that I think he nailed it) on the entire series and your first sentence is in line with the "second whisper" theory explained in the video. The analysis is by Twin Perfect and it's over 4-hours long. It's a great ride.
@VanessaHolguin
@VanessaHolguin 6 жыл бұрын
This show is the absolute epitome of "can't describe it... need to see it" ! I wish more people were privy to this underrated gem of artistic creativity that is *Twin Peaks* . Your breakdowns of all the nuanced scenes & scenarios of this show are wonderful; thank you so much!
@josephsekara1377
@josephsekara1377 Жыл бұрын
I think she says, you killed me, you ALWAYS killed me. Meaning, time loops around and events always unfold in a way in which Cooper brings Laura to her doom as a sacrifice to destroy Judy. Watch the whole series including the film 3 times in a row and you will start to get the same idea.
@gorehound3414
@gorehound3414 Жыл бұрын
Lynch has already stated in 2017 if there was another season it’d have to be 7 years later. So I think that’s implying if he can do it at 79 and finish the production he will do a second return season to the return and that will be most likely the last thing he does.
@PunksterOS
@PunksterOS 6 жыл бұрын
I miss this show, I'd welcome a Second Coming of Twin Peaks: The Return, it was just such glorious TV. It did have a negative impact on my other shows that I watched. Like Game of Thrones, for instance, when I went back to that, it all felt rather amateurish compared to The Return. Even now, one year later, I still contemplate things we saw in The Return.
@manafon5398
@manafon5398 6 жыл бұрын
Same here, I literally stoped watching tv shows and almost any movie that wasn't clsoe to a 10/10 for months before my standards eventually came down.
@biancachristie
@biancachristie 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah--nothing really compares, does it?
@peppermill81
@peppermill81 6 жыл бұрын
I hate to be that person, but the Fire and Ice books are so much more involved and there are so many mysteries to be solved in the Game of Thrones universe. Like what truly happened to Catelyn Stark. Won't say anything more. HBO did a good job but skipped out on some important story lines.
@acidmack1041
@acidmack1041 6 жыл бұрын
I am not a Game Of Thrones fan...to be fair i don't watch much TV at all these days. But we need to stop pretending to ourselves that Twin Peaks: The Return was this big great phenomenal show because it really wasn't.
@PunksterOS
@PunksterOS 6 жыл бұрын
peppermill81 I get you, mate, I am "A Song of Ice and Fire," Book reader too. Well, the first three books anyhow, I've yet to buy the last two. I am currently on the third book, 95% of the way through. HBO did a good job up until they ran out of books. The last season of it, while very action-packed was ultimately a poorly written mess and it felt extremely rushed. Like D&D were just wanting the story to end. It is a shame that they went from taking their time, develop the characters, as was in the books, to suddenly throwing logic out the window and dropping a lot of what had been previously been set up. Dan and Dave get a lot more credit than they deserve, I think. The show when it first aired was like nothing TV audiences had ever seen before (you could maybe argue Lost), in terms of scope, huge cast and ambition, which deserves to be lauded but one thing that stands out to the point it is extremely jarring is the tonal shift and the writing overall. I don't blame them, GRRM is a proper writer and is leagues above anything Dan and Dave will likely ever write. I admire them for taking longer with the last season of the show but I feel like we are heading for more of the same with Season 8, disappointing writing and inconsistent characters and character motivation held barely together with Fan Service. I'll happily be proved wrong.
@Steampunkkids
@Steampunkkids 6 жыл бұрын
Another great video! Here are my 2 cents: I really believe that, at the end, when Laura whispers to Cooper, she is telling him that they are eternally stuck in this cycle. In many ways it is like Elizabeth in the video game Bioshock. No matter what alternate dimension Elizabeth goes too, there is always a lighthouse, there is always a man, and there is always a city. Likewise in Twin Peaks, there is always a troubled Laura, there is always an agent Cooper, and there is always the city of Twin Peaks. No matter what alternate reality Cooper and Laura enter, no matter what rights they wrong, the cycle will always continue. There will always be a troubled Laura. There will always be a Cooper who is monomaniacally trying to "find" Laura and "help" her. There will always be a Laura in the "waiting room" of the Black Lodge whispering into Cooper's ear, telling him that they are stuck in this never-ending cycle. And then, the cycle begins again . . . never ending. At the very end of Season 3 Episode 18, we see Laura whispering into Cooper's ear. The only difference this time is the camera angle. We see his full face this time while she whispers. We watch the look of pure horror come over his face when he realizes that this will never end. That's my interpretation, anyway.
@robertbusek30
@robertbusek30 6 жыл бұрын
Very dark, but perfectly plausible...
@allengumm1157
@allengumm1157 6 жыл бұрын
I agree. Just wondering how...or if...the scene of Laura with Cooper and the "angel" in FWWM fits into the mythology.
@Steampunkkids
@Steampunkkids 6 жыл бұрын
Allen Gumm, here is my take. At the end of FWWM, we see Cooper still in the Lodge Waiting Room as if he has been expecting Laura the whole time. Laura is of the White Lodge. The Angel is there as a symbol of the White Lodge. The Angel's appearance means Laura no longer has to experience "garmonbozia" (i.e. Pain and suffering) and her part in this cycle is complete. I think Laura is happy that the garmonbozia this cycle is over. Laura is also happy to see the Angel, as the Angel shows that the White Lodge is still connected to Laura and it is "watching" over her. If I remember correctly, we only see the "Waiting Room" between the lodges (i.e. the red room with the chevron flooring). We never see the inside of the White Lodge. I am not sure if "The Arm" is in the Black Lodge or not. But, maybe because it is the waiting room entities from both Lodges can interact there. Either way, Cooper's presence in that scene shows that he has been part of the cycles for a long time. He reached her dreams before she was killed. He waited for her arrival once she died. All of these things happened before the Dale Cooper we know and love had even set foot in Twin Peaks or had been assigned the case.
@Steampunkkids
@Steampunkkids 6 жыл бұрын
Robert Busek and Allen Gumm, thank you both for your responses. No one ever responds to my theories and I don't know what to make of that. So, thank you both for making my day
@MarvinFalz
@MarvinFalz 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, like Cooper and Laura are bound together by karma, but they don't know it, or are just waking up to the fact. Or they're what in esotericism is called soul mates or twin flames.
@thejetto
@thejetto 6 жыл бұрын
Yet again another fantastic recap by Wow Lynch Wow. The Twin Peaks videos are excellent and probably the best online alongside my other favourite, Pete Peppers. Excellent stuff. It is like Coffee and Pie for hungry fans.
@spandytube
@spandytube 6 жыл бұрын
You should do an episode on the Roadhouse scenes because I have absolutely no idea what the point of any of them were.
@carterdoyle
@carterdoyle 6 жыл бұрын
agreed... speculation they are merely slices of life indicating the general decay of one of the timelines and how the youth seem lost... others speculated they operate as different psycho analytical elements of a fractured Audrey mind... each scene representing some deeper representation... ?
@Brewzerr
@Brewzerr 5 жыл бұрын
I don’t think there really was a point to any of them, other than perhaps the conversation between Tina’s daughter and the other woman about Billy, as that is linked to Audrey’s arc. The rest of those Roadhouse scenes didn’t seem to have any real relevance to anything. Just little depictions of life among random strangers. Typical shit you see and hear at bars in any town. The itchy girl with the rash made me want to puke.
@chrisjfox8715
@chrisjfox8715 5 жыл бұрын
Brewzerr I could do without those scenes, as well as Dr Jacobi and Jerry Horne in this season
@drunkenma5ter841
@drunkenma5ter841 4 жыл бұрын
@@chrisjfox8715 you know, the jerry horne scenes were kind of interesting if you think about it like this: we know for a fact that the horne brothers were involved in some shady stuff (one eyed jack's for starters) and their family has a long history in twin peaks. ashley judd's character, who seems to be smitten with his brother ben, goes home to a husband suffering with cancer. that kind of parallels with the more or less 'corrupt' depiction of the folks who hang out at the roadhouse. horne has SOME connection to the corruption in twin peaks' underbelly, at least historically, and the woman smitten with him goes home to a husband whose body is corrupted by a disease and she feels that he is trying to make her feel guilty about it. so you've got jerry spending his time roaming around the vast woods, the mysterious woods, seemingly affected by his life choices while at the same time his brother's love interest is being made to feel guilty for ignoring corruption. also, and this is my favorite brain teaser part about it, judd's character's last name is paige, the same last name that alternate timeline laura palmer has... carrie paige. what's that all about, you think? i know i'm late with all this, but i just rewatched the return, so i'm kind of on a rant.
@JohnJStanton
@JohnJStanton 3 жыл бұрын
@@drunkenma5ter841 Jerry definitely found a portal and traveled to Idaho. It would be interesting to catalog all the portals and the numbers associated with them. It is interesting that they are 3D, as in having (x, y, z) coordinates; many are high up in the air. How long have these portals been there? Does the portal at the Palmer house predate the house? It is pretty handy to be an owl (or able to fly or levitate) when you pop out of a portal a hundred feet above the ground.
@smilodon87
@smilodon87 6 жыл бұрын
Maybe she's whispering "You'll never save me." or "You and I are stuck in this loop forever." or even "You're not in control anymore." So many possibilities, one's brain starts to cramp. Also, I agree with an earlier poster about you doing an analysis of the Roadhouse scenes - that would be fabulous (but no pressure). And finally, someone should organize a TP conference where people present and debate various theories and we all sit around with endless pie and coffee. Your commenters sound like a great bunch.
@robertbusek30
@robertbusek30 6 жыл бұрын
Has anyone tried to lip-read what she's saying?
@PredragReviews
@PredragReviews 6 жыл бұрын
I was listening with my headphones on but it is not audible at all I think I heard only something in the beginning like he was... and then nothing that make sense lol. Can someone try to lip read??
@isakdahl7054
@isakdahl7054 4 жыл бұрын
Robert Busek Well, I’ve heard that Lunch knew exactly what she whispered, but nobody in the cast, so Sheryl just whispered gibberish. So that wouldn’t be able to help.
@Tychoxi
@Tychoxi 6 жыл бұрын
Watching those Dougie scenes still fills me with warmth
@YTStoleMyUsername
@YTStoleMyUsername 6 жыл бұрын
Tychoxi I will never stop laughing at his casino scenes, Kyle Maclachlan pulled Dougie off perfectly
@SoLinkSmash
@SoLinkSmash 6 жыл бұрын
HELLOOOOOoooooOOOOO
@clementeen
@clementeen 6 жыл бұрын
Cooper was only allowed out when his doppelgänger comes back in. laura told him to go out, then the arm’s doppelgänger double crossed him. I don’t believe at that point Cooper left the lodge. He woke up in an alternate reality of Twin Peaks, a Twin Peaks which doesn’t resemble anything of the original. Remember the switch glitch at the diner? The glitches on the reflection of the characters. Even the ending, time has stopped. Cooper got out into an alternate world, he then messed the timeline by saving Laura. But he woke up in the present, the real Twin Peaks! Thus laura cannot exist, she went into non-existence. The current Twin Peaks world has the real world owners of the house and everything else. I believe laura whispered to Cooper that she doesn’t exist. But he didn’t remember, which is why he went to save her.
@DavidOv54367
@DavidOv54367 6 жыл бұрын
Nadine El Nour that is a really fascinating interpretation, especially the theory that Laura doesn't exist!
@clementeen
@clementeen 6 жыл бұрын
Dave Alva well if laura dies then she doesn’t exist, if she is saved by Cooper, then she disappears and becomes carrie paige. and if that’s true then cooper never comes to twin peaks to solve her murder which means cooper isn’t cooper perhaps he is richard
@Log9938
@Log9938 6 жыл бұрын
Nadine El Nour how is he Richard?
@PredragReviews
@PredragReviews 6 жыл бұрын
i think he is the dreamer. When you think of all characters from Twin Peaks and even the city of TP you must agree that they look really kind of like dreamalike characters in a dreamy city so yeah... Richard can be a dreamer!
@Bowlofhype
@Bowlofhype 6 жыл бұрын
Logan Locking its already proven he's Richard
@danielfisch389
@danielfisch389 4 жыл бұрын
I share some people's view that Laura tells him that he has never left the Red Room and that all we have seen in this series took place there, in form of a dream (Cooper's ?), game, fantasy or else. And he will never leave it either, no matter what he tries. Cooper's facial expression during the end credits (apparently the same scene as in Episode 2 (Series 3) after Laura kissed him) speaks volumes - that's the way you look when you are being told an unexpected and unpleasant truth that you find hard to believe.
@YusefIsAGod
@YusefIsAGod 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting, I think that as well. To add to the discusssion, I think Cooper it's stuck in a loop, where he's remembering everything before getting into the Red Room. Try watching FWWM and the International Pilot in this order after S3.
@shaft9000
@shaft9000 3 жыл бұрын
He doesn't leave the red room until right after the opener of ep18, as evidenced by Mr C burning up and Cooper walking through the curtains. He dreamed that he was 'stuck' in Dougie for a time before then, and shocked himself out of it, consequently 'returning to Twin Peaks' and defeating Bob in the most obviously unsatisfying, ridiculous way. He then endeavors to save a dead girl via time-travel, cancelling the original purpose of the show (who killed Laura Palmer). So when he _really leaves_ the Red Room (and Cooper's Red Room dream ends) there is no plot left to correct. Since all of the seasons of TP are _also_ a meta-narrative dream, whatever Cooper dreams has an effect, just as it has since s1 ep03. So by the end of S3 ep17 _It is as if TP never happened_ , yet in s3 ep18 there Cooper and Carrie/Laura are in our reality, wondering what year it is and why nobody knows anything about what he's doing there.
@nikolailic431
@nikolailic431 2 жыл бұрын
@@shaft9000 FWWM is the beginning of the Cooper's dream, now I connected what you say here with scene in FBI headquarters, when Jeffries said "we live inside a dream".
@Corn_Pone_Flicks
@Corn_Pone_Flicks 6 жыл бұрын
I can't help but wonder if the answer is as simple as "My father killed me." Cooper was, long ago, dreaming of this event that someday would happen to him, and we're now seeing the actual event instead of the dream. Cooper's reaction might have been surprise after having genuinely forgotten after a quarter-century in the lodge. But I do agree that it was Lynch's intent to turn Laura back into a mystery once more. And if the final episode's final scene didn't make the idea that "you can't go home again" literal enough for everyone to grasp, nothing would.
@heddalee
@heddalee 6 жыл бұрын
I think she mirrored the first dream-whisper by telling Coop that this time, it was he who killed her (by tossing her into Odessa? Or dragging her to the non-Palmer house?). She's not bothered, it was one thing or another; but Coop is, as usual, way behind the count.
@robertbusek30
@robertbusek30 6 жыл бұрын
If you're right, perhaps Laura/Carrie and Coop are supposed to stop Leland's initial possession by BOB?
@Corn_Pone_Flicks
@Corn_Pone_Flicks 6 жыл бұрын
My other thought on the matter was that she might have told him, "We live inside a dream." The look on his face as she's whispering is quite similar to the close-up of his face that's dissolved over the Sheriff's Dept. scene in episode 17, which finally ends with that line.
@shaft9000
@shaft9000 3 жыл бұрын
DIng! Ding! We have winner...
@AddictiveKaraoke
@AddictiveKaraoke 6 жыл бұрын
Geoffrey. Your videos have always been amazing, all the way through the run of the Return. I was very happy that I discovered you on KZbin early on. Your recaps were the best among all of them but I have to tell you, honestly, the last three that you have put up have just blown them all away. The way you put stuff together now, a year later, it's just amazing and you touch on a lot of things I was thinking about at the time the Return was airing. I never got around to writing my own reviews or posting my own thoughts which is probably a good thing, because I would just piss people off, but what you discussed in this video is where I've been at for a long time. Probably since the Return aired originally. Lynch achieved exactly what he wanted with this series. Thank you sir for all of your work on Wow Lynch Wow. Please continue if you're able. POWERHOUSE
@ToneSherpa
@ToneSherpa 5 жыл бұрын
Laura is the key to all this. She's a funnier character than we've ever had before.
@thechapelperilous
@thechapelperilous 6 жыл бұрын
"Who is the Dreamer?'...Laura is the one.
@nodescriptionavailable3842
@nodescriptionavailable3842 2 жыл бұрын
Laura whispers, “David told me to whisper in your ear but not what to say so lakalaladiddawaddawissy.” David’s keeping this one for himself for our benefit
@momoneyho666
@momoneyho666 6 ай бұрын
Does anyone else find it perplexing that she is smiling while she whispers to him and his reaction is anything but a smile?
@biancachristie
@biancachristie 6 жыл бұрын
What a great rundown! I think you're on target, and I love that Laura is, once again, both the center of everything and also the show's biggest mystery. The slow onset of Cooper's confusion is awful to watch, but it's tragic in the grand sense of Greek tragedy, almost like his confidence (especially when it comes to messing with time itself) is too much and demands some kind of cosmic retribution.
@JediBunny
@JediBunny 6 жыл бұрын
Love your videos, not to mention your voice and vocal cadence- your personality really shines through! Watching these videos now make it a little easier to go without anything Twin Peaks or even Lynchian in life right now... thank you for always making such great quality content!
@YTStoleMyUsername
@YTStoleMyUsername 6 жыл бұрын
Jedi Bunny AGREE! :)
@gardinnome1177
@gardinnome1177 6 жыл бұрын
I'm still of the opinion that the lodge entities sent Cooper out of the lodge to retrieve Laura for Jao De; Laura was rescued by "the angels" at the end of FWWM & hidden in another reality. I don't think Cooper was aware he was being used in this way, but whatever "Laura" whispered to him was disturbing. I don't know why people seem to have forgotten that Mike & the Arm are malevolent entities. Just because they help Cooper in the Return doesn't mean they are "good". I think the Giant was trying to help him & save him from the machinations of the lodge entities; he showed Cooper that the sound played from the record player was an indicator of their presence, perhaps hoping this would help Cooper detect/avoid them. If I'm right, it's a dark ending; Cooper found Laura & took her directly to Jao De. Based on the way Jao De (Sarah) flipped out & destroyed Laura's picture we can only imagine what happens next. PS: When we see Laura & Cooper seemingly happy together in the lodge in FWWM I think we are looking at doppelgangers.
@evanabbott2737
@evanabbott2737 6 жыл бұрын
Awww don’t say they’re doppelgängers!!😁
@gardinnome1177
@gardinnome1177 6 жыл бұрын
Who else would be happy to be in the lodge but doppelgangers & entities?
@YTStoleMyUsername
@YTStoleMyUsername 6 жыл бұрын
gardin Nome That does make sense, whenever you see characters in the Lodge smiling or acting 'happy,' it was Leland' s doppelganger, Cooper' s doppelganger, the Arm, BOB, etc. Real Cooper always looked concerned and intent on what he was witnessing in there. (though I think he very briefly smiled when Laura kissed him in the original series) The angels scene was always a bit confusing to me, as religion never really comes into play in the show. It has to be some kind of illusion created by the Lodge or something...
@gardinnome1177
@gardinnome1177 6 жыл бұрын
I think the angels represent the White Lodge entities (The Giant & Friends)
@heddalee
@heddalee 6 жыл бұрын
My intuition is that Judy wasn't in the Palmer House at the end - all of the last few seconds were in Laura's head....
@ItsAlwaysRainingInWa
@ItsAlwaysRainingInWa 5 жыл бұрын
This makes me wonder if Judy was somehow in the house during the final scene, but also had forgot about the other reality where Laura exists or had given up on looking for her because it seemed hopeless. Or maybe Laura was put into a reality that exists in the past, so that she had not been made/sent to earth or Leland and Sarah had not reproduced therefore she would be unknown under the guise of "carrie paige" in this past, or alternate reality that exists in the past. That could be why Coop asked what year it was at the last second. We have seen Judy can move into a body. I don't think it would be a stretch to say they could switch bodies just like bob. Not to mention the woman who used to own the house is a known spiritual entity. Add to that the subtle hint of something literally unknown being inside the house is demonstrated when the person greeting Coop and "carrie" is speaking to someone who we never seen or "hidden". Not trying to say that who she is speaking too is Judy itself, but it is an unknown factor in which I believe is like a metaphor. I think coop was supposed to remember everything when he switches dimensions and/or goes to the past, or he was not supposed to meddle at all. When he reads the note left by diane in the final episode he, in my opinion, has no idea who richard and linda are and is bewildered. But Coop is so determined to continue his misson his mind is able to graps bits and pieces. He seems to not notice that the hotel is different, but seems to look at his car for a second. Even the way he says he is in the fbi during the next few scenes seems lackluster and not at all confident. We all know that would not be for a lack of effort in the case of Kyle MacLachlan so to me that could also be a hint. Coop eventually leads Laura to what he thinks will be the answer only to bring her directly to Judy, whom upon immediately seeing "carrie paige" most likely just sees a person. But Coop being who he is drives the point home with no regard for anything but completing the mission. Judy then says Lauras name remembering as she is questioning it herself. When Laura screams I believe Coop realized what he has done and also remembered that laura had whispered to him insctructuons not to lead her to the house, but far too late. On a sidenote maybe the hint given by the fireman two birds with one stone also has some meaning here, and cooper was supposed elimate the two birds, Judy and Bob, by taking himself out of the equation so he doesnt lead Laura back to them. That would really make Coops journey tragic because it gives this obsessive searching for the truth side of him a very negative spin, which is one of his most endearing qualities. The have been times before where the fireman has tried to stop coop or tell him to stop. Their relationship is far from perfect. Hell he left Coop on the floor to die, still made him pay for his milk and didnt even call 911. Gardin Nomes and my theories here could also explain the look on Coops face when Laura whispers to him. I believed he would be crushed with grief and confused as to why Laura would want to remain in an alternate reality/past and not want to be returned or "saved". To be honest I thought it was weird when Coop said he was taking her "home". What home? The one where she is beaten and raped and a potentially even more evil spirit resides in her mom? Into the future where her dad killed himself and she had ruined the lives of everyone around and could only exist as an anomaly only to be potentially found by Judy again as Jusy resides in Sarah Palmer? He seems like this Knight in shining armor when he says the words, but it seems so out of place to me. Laura has no home. I think people forget that Carrie Paige seems to be far from a saint. The was a man rotting on her couch and she had not a care in the world that an fbi agent saw him. That speaks volumes to me about her character. For someone to act that way they not only would be considered evil, but also extremely disassociated with reality to not know that you do not show the fbi a dead body or not care. I'm confused as to what good may have come by Cooper returning her to anywhere for that matter.
@fredrogers838
@fredrogers838 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent write up man!
@shaft9000
@shaft9000 3 жыл бұрын
It seems Judy is not a character so much as "an extreme negative Force", per the info from Cole. The Experiment is not Judy, either. It has more to do with Garland Briggs' disembodied head floating through space whispering "Judy", and the monkey saying the same at the end of FWWM, than anything to do with "who". Hence Mr. C's frustration with Jeffries' replies when he demands "WHO is Judy!!"
@DorianDuVerger
@DorianDuVerger 5 жыл бұрын
She whispered, " What do you think Bill Murray whispers to Scarlett Johansson at the end of Lost in Translation?"
@elscarletl
@elscarletl 4 жыл бұрын
🤗🤗 best answer imo
@nodescriptionavailable3842
@nodescriptionavailable3842 2 жыл бұрын
I’m starting to rewatch this channel, this guys voice and delivery is epic
@shoopdawoopvi9479
@shoopdawoopvi9479 Жыл бұрын
I'd like to think she whispered Judy is the dreamer, she has this ability to split realities
@rini6
@rini6 6 жыл бұрын
Oh I hope you’re right and we get more Twin Peaks. But I am so thankful for season three (or whatever you call it.) It was truly an uncertain, searching series full of wistfulness, doubt, questions and fear... perfect for our times.
@wrathofmatt4298
@wrathofmatt4298 6 жыл бұрын
I'm praying to the giant for a new season.
@Brewzerr
@Brewzerr 5 жыл бұрын
I’ll be truly amazed if that happens. I’m really not sure where it could possibly go from the finale of The Return. No matter which theory you accept... whether it’s “Laura won”, “Cooper won”, “Judy won”, or “Nobody won”... there just really isn’t any room for continuation. Besides, look at how many of the key actors have passed away, and how a few others are so far up in age now that they probably won’t be with us much longer... then take into account that another season would take about 5 years to make. Those are not very good odds in favor of a fourth season. However, it is David Lynch. He has been known to pull rabbits from hats and turn water into wine from time to time. We’ll see. I’m not going to hold my breath though.
@plasticweapon
@plasticweapon 3 жыл бұрын
@@Brewzerr "no room for continuation"? i don't know how you figure that when lynch could just pick up where he left off (if he chose to). what about the actors that are still alive starting with kyle and sheryl? the reason i don't think it can go on is because TM and old age are eating away at lynch's mind. as it is, season 3's story was left unfinished because he wasted an unbelievable amount of time he wasted on extraneous subplots.
@Brewzerr
@Brewzerr 3 жыл бұрын
@@plasticweapon I remember people saying the same thing (about Lynch) back in the 80's when Blue Velvet was newly released. Today that movie is hailed as a masterpiece and a classic and gets nothing but praise. The word "genius" is often bandied about, but believe me... at the time it was an extremely different story and the general reaction was very negative. It's very easy to say Lynch has "lost it" or whatever, but I have a feeling that 20 or so years from now people will be looking back on The Return in much the same way they look back on Blue Velvet today. I'm not saying it's his best work, but I do think The Return is worthy of prime Lynchian standards. As far as any notion of a 4th season goes, sure... he could pick back up where he left off, which was what? Lights out, end of everything, Laura screams and it all goes black? How do you even pick up from that?
@mrnukes797
@mrnukes797 3 жыл бұрын
That's if David lynch is alive
@kevinr.3542
@kevinr.3542 5 жыл бұрын
"You left the toilet seat up..." the Red Room obviously has a bathroom somewhere back there
@ryanbenson4610
@ryanbenson4610 3 жыл бұрын
Always come back here when I finish the series. It is happening again.
@tatehildyard5332
@tatehildyard5332 6 жыл бұрын
My theory is that the whisper is more than just "familiar territory". I think it's meant to actually be that same moment from season 1 just recreated for modern time. It's established that time does not function in the Black Lodge like it does in the human world so when Cooper goes into his dream in season 1, 25 years pass in the Black Lodge. My guess is that when Cooper became trapped at the end of season 2 and 25 years passed in the human world, he would ultimately end up exactly where his dream had transported him in season 1 (via Black Lodge time) only we're observing said event through human world time. Meaning Cooper woke up in season 1 right before Laura got sucked away by Judy and the curtain flew open in season 3.
@wrathofmatt4298
@wrathofmatt4298 6 жыл бұрын
Tate Hildyard I don't think Judy sucked her out(lol), I think it was a time thing blinking her out or the lodge itself expelling out since she was murdered anymore. Cool idea 👍
@xxturtleracexx2808
@xxturtleracexx2808 5 жыл бұрын
I personally loved what Lynch did with Dale Cooper in the return. I liked it because it harkens back to the old saying-" you'll only miss something, till' it's gone", that's why I like it, cuz' Dale Cooper is pretty unstoppable in the original run of Twin Peaks-" but Lynch probably thought or said- is he really"? So when Dale comes back in episode 15, there's a massive payoff because you see Dale/Dougie fumble for 14 episode's, and also you take Dale as a character for granted.
@Casinorhgd
@Casinorhgd 3 жыл бұрын
I hate all the Dougie's story. I wanted my Dale Cooper back in the episode, i dont know, part 7 or 10.
@milgeekmedia
@milgeekmedia 2 жыл бұрын
I think this is pretty spot on - Lynch has wrestled back things the way they should have been (with the slight suspicion that it may not - after all have been Leland. Maybe the statement “I didn't kill anyone" has more than one interpretation)?
@good-questions
@good-questions Жыл бұрын
That was an implication in the return??? My comprehension skills are poor
@catyear75
@catyear75 6 жыл бұрын
Really good video , well researched. As much as I like Lynch's works , I can't help but feel that he just puts together these amazing stories that have no actual discernible endings. He builds to a certain point and then - wham! Reality shifts, identities change etc.etc. it makes it difficult for me to invest too heavily in any of his work
@MrRobosquad
@MrRobosquad 6 жыл бұрын
That's part of the power though. He's so good at making them experiential up to that point, that when those shifts occur, you're as unmoored as the characters--you feel for them, and you come away with an appreciation for the fact that sometimes, often, even, life really does feel like those abstract and alarming shifts. It's not narrative realism, but it's a mode that helps capture some very real feelings about being alive in the world that would be difficult to articulate any other way.
@vladanmilovanovic4343
@vladanmilovanovic4343 6 жыл бұрын
Powerhouse video dude. Putting the genie back in the bottle is a great conclusion. I love it. Excellent video. Thanks for easing my itch.
@novakmarin9021
@novakmarin9021 6 жыл бұрын
In the first scene of the first episode of The Return, the Giant says something like: "It is in our house now. It all cannot be said aloud now". If that is the thing that cannot be said aloud, then I guess it could be whispered, so I think that Laura whispered to him that very same thing: "It is in our house now", alluding to Jao Dei, or something like that. I mean, we know that there is something wrong about that house in the ending scene, so... I don't know, I cannot link all of that to make some sense. Love your videos by the way :D
@dirkelst
@dirkelst 6 жыл бұрын
wow that makes complete sense
@mmtl9203
@mmtl9203 6 жыл бұрын
TP (The Return) can be seen as a show about existence and living outside of 'fearful secrets' - a discomfiting condition wherein one is not 'in-the-loop'. Disorientation/helplessness abounds amidst decay and unrelenting nihilism. It is quite a dysphoric allegory of modern times if not modern America. Laura's whisper to me is one of many 'fearful secrets' in the TP universe.
@sawomirn9888
@sawomirn9888 6 жыл бұрын
"It's in our house now" - then giving the exact clues regarding how to get to this pocket/reality dimension (depending on theory) to Coop. I think Coop knows what he is doing and the meeting with Giant might happen just prior to entrance to the Carrie Page's dimension - there's a conflict with the FBI badge on Coop's jacket though - during Fireman scene he hasn't got one, at final scene he has so.... Let's assume it happened earlier, no idea when though. There was a theory that Laura was a "bomb" to annihilate Judy/Judy's creation like matter and antimatter does. And last scene is when these two meet which annihilates whole world (dimension) along with everything inside. This matches to some extent but ignores the fact of Dream idea that has been mentioned too often by Lynch here to just ignore. Maybe the event of meeting Laura with Judy(we assume this is what is possesing Sarah [THEN SHE COULD BE LAURAS DOPPELGANGER TOO]) was the key to Laura to realize what her abusive father was doing to her, that whole TP was her dream, because "but who's the dreamer" ->"Laura is the one" . And the whole world of Twin Peaks was just one of these dreams you have more than one time, but always forgot them? But when you dream them again you feel familiar, but any detail vanishes just after you woke up? Thats why Carrie Page didnt recognize Coop because he actually existed only in the dream. Then she got a dead guy on her sofa, just after the destruction of BOB. Notice how TP perfectly reflected the Carrie's reality, she fought, she got him, finally. Notice the white horse on the shelf? Maybe it was the dead guy thing, he liked figurines of white horse, that always was connected to him hence the connection of white horse symbol to Bob/Judy. Then of course Judy is the name of place where Carrie is working, maybe hated abusive boss, maybe mean colleagues, she hates the job but she has to work to make ends meet. Maybe thats why Laura didnt die in the end - because "Laura" died when someone raped her (at this point lets skip if that was father/uncle/boyfriend figure) but just after destroying BOB she felt strong and that she got control, she faced her oppresor and killed him, she is alive again, she is master of her fate (even tho she will go to jail/she need to run now). Thats why when she finally realized what is happening she totally lost her sh*t and... something happened, world collapsed? Two worlds combined? We don't know. Because what the heck would you do if your dream come to you alive, in the flesh in the broad daylight? Just my few ideas, maybe someone can elaborate it better. Damn I'm late to work now.
@caitlinroseblaney226
@caitlinroseblaney226 6 жыл бұрын
This does make complete sense. The fireman and Laura were warning cooper not to bring Laura / Carrie back to her house, because it’s there... but he didn’t remember and so he brought her straight to Jiao De. Terrifying ending.
@davidh1790
@davidh1790 6 жыл бұрын
We will itch with you for 25 more years
@johnnio99
@johnnio99 6 жыл бұрын
Love your videos. I disagree with the point you make about Cooper not understanding what went on. The very first episode in the Return actually happened at the end. When the Giant spoke to him, he says, "I understand" and left with Laura and Diane. AFTER they passed mile 430, THEN he got confused, this I think was because of the time loop. I agree with you about the "whisper" though...
@meneerjansen00
@meneerjansen00 6 жыл бұрын
Laura probably whispered something like "I'm still alive". Because this time, she is. And she disappears from the (White) Lodge because she's alive, not a spirit anymore.
@Theolppoman
@Theolppoman 6 жыл бұрын
Haven't even watched the video yet, I just want to say that I'm so happy that this channel is active again. Keep up the good work!
@Lairdesangfroid
@Lairdesangfroid 6 жыл бұрын
You speak with such sincerity, I could listen to you talk about anything
@airrocker001
@airrocker001 2 жыл бұрын
I like to imagine she says "You can't save me." in S3 because after all Cooper does to save Laura he still fails.
@lizj729
@lizj729 6 жыл бұрын
This is one of your best videos. My mind is completely blown.
@lizj729
@lizj729 6 жыл бұрын
I was so happy to see a new upload this morning!!!!!
@shaft9000
@shaft9000 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, mate! What she whispered is the same as it ever was: "My father killed me". The mystery of 'Who Killed Laura' WAS the show. Solve this mystery, and the shows driving force is dead. Yet fans persist in insisting that something 'new' was said by a character _long dead_ . Therefore, the show goes on. Remember: B&W Cooper in ep01 listening to the Giant/Fireman replies "I understand" to his clues - clues that can _only_ be ascertained by a viewer that has _already seen_ The Return! This is Lynch's way, in crude B&W, of asserting Cooper's persona as an avatar of the audience member; the individual _investigator of mystery_ . WE the viewer(s) demanded ever-more mystery, and as the original story is over, we _have_ to be informed by Lynch in the form of puzzles/clues to be solved through decoding film language and abstracting further. Exposition is generally a narrative no-no for it violates the 'don't tell me, SHOW me' principle of film and all visual language. After all, a picture is worth (at least) 1,000 words.
@FeanaroKurufinve
@FeanaroKurufinve 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, thank you very much. You know, I really like what you've been doing with your videos, it's a very Lynchy thing to do - make the viewers think that you've uncovered something factual about the story, lead them up to it for somewhat ten minutes, and leave them with (instead of some story revelation) an unexpected, interesting and surprising insight into Lynch's artistic language and methods. I mean, like, every time I watch your videos, I'm sitting there, waiting for you to say that you noticed a little detail that I didn't see that lead you to understand that Laura whispered exactly this and that, and thus you know now which timeline is where and whatnot, but instead I just get itchy and yearning for more videos. Awesome, man, thanks!
@zacharywhite5631
@zacharywhite5631 6 жыл бұрын
Regardless of whether or not I agree with your conclusions, I do wish to thank you for consistently putting out quality content centered around one of the greatest series of all time. Huge props to you and please keep at it!
@danielchapman547
@danielchapman547 6 жыл бұрын
Jesus Christ, what an amazing breakdown. Twin Peaks was one of the most watched shows on television during its first season, but viewership unfortunately fell after Laura Palmer‘s killer was revealed. I can totally picture a conversation between Lynch and the executives at Showtime about hiding what Laura says at the end of Return, and that possibly being a factor in whether or not the Lynch would make the show. If you did find out, it would take the mystery, and the beauty of Twin Peaks, away. As much as I would like to know what Laura Palmer said, knowing that takes away the mystery. And that’s the point. I can’t imagine we’ll get another season, but I am really hoping we do. Can never get enough of David Lynch stuff. Thanks for your vid bro!
@sydneyalisonbaker
@sydneyalisonbaker 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Hope we get a season 4!
@bradp1103
@bradp1103 6 жыл бұрын
Damn, getting nostalgic for a frickin year ago watching this lol
@donniedarko1345
@donniedarko1345 5 жыл бұрын
When the original Twin Peaks aired I was only 14 years old. Everyone I knew was watching some show called 90210. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I remember TP competing with 90210 on Thursday nights, during the same time slot. I would love someone to fact check that for me, I'm going completely off of memory. Needless to say, I've been obsessed with this show since the airing and (maybe?) lost out on watching that teen, Beverly hills show. ZERO regrets at 42 years old. Still obsessed with Twin Peaks and David Lynch. Being an obsessive fan of the cult original, when season 3 came out I could hardly contain myself.
@stephaniemc9948
@stephaniemc9948 4 жыл бұрын
I was a freshman in college when the show premiered. I think you’re right, I seem to remember Thursday as the day it was on..
@tandyp9256
@tandyp9256 6 жыл бұрын
Love your voice! So glad you keep putting up videos about this.
@UncleJamie
@UncleJamie 6 жыл бұрын
The Dopple-Dale arm-wrestling scene might be a slight nod to Psycho - in that there's a famous scene where Norman Bates is trying to dispose of a car (containing a body of course) in a peat bog, and there's this little moment where it looks like it won't sink. At that moment the audience is tense because it looks like the bad guy _won't_ get away with his murder; in other words, the audience is now sympathetically seeing things from the murderer's point of view instead of the victim's, which was Hitchcock's subversive and extremely insightful intention. The Dopple-Dale scene seems like Lynch and Frost's modern take on that idea, although it should be noted that in that scene it never looked like the 'bad guy' was about to fail in some way, so maybe not.
@robertbusek30
@robertbusek30 6 жыл бұрын
There's a small flaw in your analysis. At that point in *Psycho*, we don't know that Norman is the killer; he's just a guy trying to protect his mom.
@jayson42056
@jayson42056 6 жыл бұрын
BRAVO! I was waiting for you to say it, but in the words of Lynch...Who killed Laura Palmer was the golden goose that lays the $golden$ eggs, and thus is the whisper used in the same fashion. I continue to love your work. As I was watching this, it was as if you were ripping all the data we have in our heads and putting it all on the table. Data that now spans from 1991-2018.
@unsinnkim3690
@unsinnkim3690 4 жыл бұрын
"You'll never have me......" Renee / Alice in LOST HIGHWAY
@StephenPike
@StephenPike 6 жыл бұрын
My Man! I wish we had 8 more seasons of the show just so we could get more video about it from you. I truly enjoy your work and drop everything to watch every new video you post. I hope you continue to make them despite the lack of new episodes. I, for one, would love some character bio videos. Give each characters story through the 3 seasons, FWWM, and Frost's books. I'm sure it'd keep you busy and it would keep the content we all love coming! Thanks for all of your hard work, it is definitely appreciated. P.S. This is nothing against you, but I hope I never see your face. You have such a distinctive voice that I've built this mental image of you - one I can't really explain - but one that I like. In this case I don't want to see the man behind the (red) curtain. Again, nothing against you, I just like the mystery. Without seeing you you are something MORE than just a guy.... if that makes ANY sense.
@non-exist-ent
@non-exist-ent 6 жыл бұрын
Wonderful! But, please never forget to also credit Mark Frost when saying, “Had some ideas and wanted to keep the door open” (for future series) :)
@roymakescomics
@roymakescomics 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, especially since he is the main driving force behind the plotlines, Lynch is just the overrated artsy director showcasing Frost's ideas.
@TheWisestWizards
@TheWisestWizards 6 жыл бұрын
This whisper is the main thing I've been obsessing over since the finale.
@otflipz1
@otflipz1 6 жыл бұрын
We are so not going to get anymore of the best TV show of all time. Love your videos though
@Dontuween
@Dontuween 6 жыл бұрын
Great insight!!! And yes, we are wishing for a Season 4. Me thinks it will happen in 2020, the 30th anniversary of when "Twin Peaks" began.
@WickedLiquid
@WickedLiquid 5 жыл бұрын
I was too young to watch the original series but around 2014-2015 I was told to check out Lynch''s work so I saw Mulholland Drive, Lost Highway and Blue Velvet. I also watched Twin Peaks and luckily for me I only had to wait 2 years for The Return. I can't imagine having to wait 27 years!!
@grahammcdonald
@grahammcdonald 6 жыл бұрын
Love your vids. I’m excited to watch cobra Kai, just to see your take on it. I think that Laura is telling him not to change the timeline, as no good comes from it. I think the whole dream inside a dream adds the ambiguity that would allow for any future series. Also leaving these two at the end and a different timeline allows flexibility of available cast members. I love to think of Cooper researching what has happened to everyone in the town of Twin Peaks since he messed with time in the forest.
@Gunsandjewels
@Gunsandjewels 2 жыл бұрын
She said:I cannot be saved.
@patrickcoulombe5317
@patrickcoulombe5317 6 жыл бұрын
Cooper was duped. The Diane he took with him to save Laura was another doppelgänger. The real Diane was trapped in the alternate timeline, afraid to face her own shadow self at the hotel. The ‘eat at Judy’s’ timeline, is in fact the black lodge. Diane, Cooper and Laura are all trapped inside.
@thisisnotachannel
@thisisnotachannel Жыл бұрын
"You can't save me", or "you must go back in time to find me", or something to that effect. But that's just my two cents... and it's based mostly on Dale's facial expressions when Laura whispers to him.
@swayze_mane
@swayze_mane 6 жыл бұрын
thanks again for another great TP:TR video! I never miss a single one! I'm always itchin' for more Wow Lynch Wow! I can't believe it's been an entire year since it came out!
@whatinterestsst7548
@whatinterestsst7548 2 жыл бұрын
Man, your stuff is just incredible. I just love your insights. Thank you so much.
@WowLynchWow
@WowLynchWow 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you like them! Thank you very much.
@dannypound7626
@dannypound7626 6 жыл бұрын
Right on. I totally agree that it is the idea of our expectations about life that is one theme of The Return. Possibly Lynch was addressing the Buddhist notions of impermanence/emptiness? Nothing ever stays the same for even an instant. Quantum Physics has shown this to be true. The state of our reality is ever changing. So many people seemed hurt and indignant that Lynch and Frost failed to deliver to them a replay of the things they enjoyed about the first two seasons. It was most definitely Lynch's intention to teach us a lesson about how we suffer when we expect life to fulfill our desires!
@vsrr83
@vsrr83 6 жыл бұрын
Have you considered the following simple explanation for what Mr C was looking for: - The symbol on the card is simply the head of the "evolution of the arm". - When Mr C locked his car into the garage, Jack's face reminded him of the head. - The monster in the box was the doppelganger of the the "arm". The cast name "experiment" may refer to some kind of experimentation with different kind of bodies.
@thatoneoddball2564
@thatoneoddball2564 6 жыл бұрын
I really do wish that I could picture comment on youtube- 2 days after I finished The Return, I went and made a meme summing up the entirety of it all (Hey lil mama, lemme whisper in your ear- This is a purgatory loop, You'll NEVER GET OUT OF HERE) Additionally, one of my dear friends, Lynch inspired artist Rinaldo Zoontjes , made a digital painting of Laura whispering to Cooper in The Return with the caption of, "Every time you try to save me, you will fail". We agreed that between the two of us, we were right.
@9999Mihas
@9999Mihas 6 жыл бұрын
Maybe Laura whispered "Lynch is just trolling you"
@chrisstick5403
@chrisstick5403 6 жыл бұрын
Seriously that "back in the bottle" part gave me chills. Brilliant!
@BEE-mp9vk
@BEE-mp9vk 3 жыл бұрын
"I am the dreamer." -Laura Palmer
@SCarissima
@SCarissima 3 жыл бұрын
B a man!
@leogorgone4414
@leogorgone4414 6 жыл бұрын
Cooper had to be clueless and absent throughout season 3 because if Cooper was fully conscious he’d understand what he experienced in the Black lodge and there’d be no mystery
@indiesongwriter5474
@indiesongwriter5474 6 жыл бұрын
Bravo, sir! You're a great analyst. Here's hoping for a season 4.
@RenePeraza
@RenePeraza 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you, WLW, for keeping the flame alive on Twin Peaks! It's connective tissue between us fans and David Lynch's work we all love.
@UncleJamie
@UncleJamie 6 жыл бұрын
Just another thought: what about "The Return"? As in, why insist that it's called "Twin Peaks: The Return" rather than just "Season 3", because, as you mentioned, the show is called "Season 1" by Showtime? Who or what returned? Coop? Sarah? The Mother? The central mystery? Because in some ways, none of these people or things actually did return, depending on how you interpret what happens. Is this show really just a commentary on interpretation itself?
@tricorntom2254
@tricorntom2254 6 жыл бұрын
It's funny, as a fan of the original Twin Peaks series, I never really wanted "the old gang back." I never really wanted things to return to what they were. In fact, things were actually MORE like the past Twin Peaks then I felt they should or would have been after 25 years. So I like the fact that we have old characters back and they are changed. I also like the alternate timelines, lifetimes, and interwoven themes and thought the projection room was really cool. About my only regret, in terms of the old cast, is that they didn't get the actress Lara Flynn Boyle back and use her in some capacity. But on the whole I can say "bravo, David Lynch," again, as always you made us think and took our minds to a whole new dimension.
@DontrelleRoosevelt
@DontrelleRoosevelt 2 жыл бұрын
BobCooper killed Jason Voorhees! haha
@drunkenma5ter841
@drunkenma5ter841 4 жыл бұрын
very late to this thread... obviously... but i just rewatched the return so here i am. you know, maybe i'm crazy but i never got too caught up in what she whispers to DC in this season. just the fact that she whispered something to him, the mystery of it, was enough for me. honestly i hope i never find out what she whispered to him, unless it turns out to be something even more mysterious. the scene of the young horne brothers, from the original series, being enthralled by the flashlight dance of their babysitter in silhouette has always been a moment that really stood out. in a way that one flashback scene kind of encapsulated the whole theme and tone of the series as succinctly as possible. it doesn't hurt that they're recalling this memory while locked up in a jail cell lol.
@Dravianpn02
@Dravianpn02 Жыл бұрын
Lynch will say he makes things from feeling and not all of it has an answer but that's not true. He knows. He's always known. He just likes everyone to guess.
@WowLynchWow
@WowLynchWow Жыл бұрын
Agreed, and I also seem to recall him once saying that things need to make sense to him for an idea to work.
@Dravianpn02
@Dravianpn02 Жыл бұрын
@@WowLynchWow 100%
@bethanyproctor
@bethanyproctor 4 жыл бұрын
Remember the arm saying to Cooper before they put him through the portal “cease to exist”. That hinted to something. That main version of Cooper was a sacrifice and so was Laura if you think about it. At the end of the show we see the electricity blow out and that signals they don’t exist anymore in that timeline. Mission failed. Yet they still live but trapped permanently in the Black Lodge. The only form of Cooper that exists outside of the lodge is Dougie. All forms of Laura are dead for good. In doing this Sarah Palmer and a lot of other characters would cease to exist as well. She’s basically telling him this because Cooper tried to change the past and it essentially “broke time” and killed her instead of saving her. So when she says I know who killed me in the beginning it was Leland/ Bob and now it was Cooper. The theme of all of this is as much as you try to keep somebody around or save them you just can’t it’s not meant to be. You can’t control time it’s a different entity. The time loops and portals are always shifting so this ending credit could’ve been the beginning of the show and not the end. There’s really no set sequence of time in this show. We get bits and pieces but even the characters seemed delayed when talking. Like they haven’t quit caught up to time and their memories are always foggy. It’s always the same line of we’re living inside a dream where I feel like I’m in a dream they’re not in a dream they’re in a timeline time loop that’s constantly shifting and it’s messing with their heads. When she says I’ll see you again in 25 yrs it could’ve been future or it could’ve been past. The beauty of this show is we will never know her exact words.
@mariussielcken
@mariussielcken 6 жыл бұрын
I think the giant (white lodge) killed Laura, which was preferable to Bob (black lodge) transmitting his demonic infection from father to daughter.
@plasticweapon
@plasticweapon 4 жыл бұрын
what she whispered in season 1, we found out in season 2. what she whispered in season 3, we'll find out in season 4.
@kenr8556
@kenr8556 6 жыл бұрын
Like a great renaissance artist Lynch has left his work to be interpreted by the individual viewer. WLW like a fine art critic always has an excellent theory on each Twin Peaks episode !! Just a continuous presentation of superior uploads my friend and once again I am itching for your next !!
@mcpeko
@mcpeko 6 жыл бұрын
So incredibly well put. You rule. Your voice is fantastic too.
@JinzoCrash
@JinzoCrash 6 жыл бұрын
There seriously does need to be a season 4 and 5. There's plenty of stuff still to uncover. It would be TRAGEDY if Lynch or any more important people were to die before a semblance of completion.
@duanecates1568
@duanecates1568 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly correct=Lynch now realizes revealing the Killer (Well, we knew it was BOB, but the Face of WHO BOB was possessing was the mystery) was a mistake. He DID intend to reveal it around Season 5 (if there was one) The moment Leland was revealed the mystique (& a lot of interest) faded. So we only got 2 Seasons & the Film Fire Walk With Me which did bring a level of closure.... Until Season 3....
@bujored
@bujored 6 жыл бұрын
Twin Peaks is a dreamy story. Lynch told us that so many times and in so many ways. In a dream, there is no hard logic, there isn't always a causal relationship between events. dreams are much more about emotions and feelings rather than pure logic. I think that Lynch is telling us: "Look guys, Twin Peaks is a story which is inspired by dreams and we tell it as such". It is designed to provoke our emotions, feelings and moods just like dreams do - when we wake up, we remember that there was a story, but we forget most of the details, those we do remember often seem to not make sense and the rest just fade away.
@PredragReviews
@PredragReviews 6 жыл бұрын
that is what puzzled me all along.... we live inside a dream... Jeffries and Coop both stated that so i was just puzzled like what dream is this and are all of these characters from dreams and interfered just one big dream?? Judy is a dreamer?? to kill Judy they must be all dreaming lol... but nice statement completely agree on your Lynch theory he is all into that buddhism dream life after life and all that stuff...
@reguluspastor
@reguluspastor 4 жыл бұрын
I noted this when I first watched Part 1, and I noted it again just the other day in my first rewatch of S3. In the first shot of Laura whispering, where we still see part of her mouth, she seems to say "You think you have to save me, but if you stop right-". My first thought was that the continuation would start with "now." However, after watching a few of this channel's + Corn Pone Flicks' lore analyses (which had actually led me to get around to rewatching S3), I now believe the first next word would be "before."
@riva2003
@riva2003 6 жыл бұрын
I don't even think Lynch knows. I take that as a symbol that indicates the unknown of universe. That's the beauty of art.
@michaeljohnson414
@michaeljohnson414 6 жыл бұрын
"Is it future? Or is it past?"The opening scenes of Cooper and the Fireman, and Cooper and Laura in the Red Room take place AFTER he and Carrie Page have returned to Twin Peaks.It is a quasi-time loop.
@Bowlofhype
@Bowlofhype 6 жыл бұрын
Wow Lynch Wow! I think she might have told him something along the lines of making sure he shouldn't save her ... maybe you really cant put the genie back in the bottle because after altering the original timeline, he's still stuck in the subsequent events of the past so saving her doesnt change anything. Maybe he was never supposed to save her at all
@lateleigh
@lateleigh 5 жыл бұрын
Indeed. Laura achieved liberation of the soul in the conclusion of FWWM. She knew when she put on the ring she was choosing to die rather than allow evil to take her over. Yet Cooper is under the misapprehension that he must save her life. By resetting past events he caused her soul to be pulled from the afterlife, which was then forced to endure further torment and acts as a beacon for her evil pursuers. The value of her pain and suffering is high and each time Cooper saves her on his misguided mission, he only increases the value of the prize for the dwellers of the shadow world.
@stephaniemc9948
@stephaniemc9948 4 жыл бұрын
@@lateleigh Exactly, this has the ring of truth for me. I think that’s Cooper’s fatal flaw. He wants to save various women but ends up making things worse for them. Annie was worse off, so was Audrey. Caroline ended up dead. I agree by “saving” Laura he put her back in hell.
@78deathface
@78deathface 6 жыл бұрын
I actually have a rash in my armpit right now...
@BrettOwen71
@BrettOwen71 6 жыл бұрын
78deathface Are you itchin' for more? Just itchin'?
@TiagoLageira
@TiagoLageira 6 жыл бұрын
That would explain his perplexed look
@Brewzerr
@Brewzerr 5 жыл бұрын
*BARF*
@ArcaneRez
@ArcaneRez 3 жыл бұрын
Remember : He had access to Showtime meaning Rated R. Not for network tv.
@giada951
@giada951 5 жыл бұрын
A younger Laura whispered Cooper the identity of his killer (laura's father/Bob) in season 1/2. The older Laura probably whispered something about Judy, the identity that was inside Laura's mother, and about the universe we saw at the end..
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