6 Problems with the nWo - Wrestling Bios

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The nWo stable and storyline during the mid 90s turned out to be one the best things about WCW progamming. The initial faction (featuring Scott Hall, Kevin Nash and Hulk Hogan) brought more eyes to World Chmapionship Wrestling and their flagship Monday Nitro television show, and over time, the New World Order completely dominated all aspects of WCW. This went beyond just what we saw on TV, the powerful members of the nWo had enough stroke to make changes backstage also.
The nWo were seen by many within WCW as the key to winning the Monday Night Wars but looking back, the storyline also created a series of problems. From the group's expansion in such a short period of time, the multitude of different nWo groups, the fact that no finish was ever written for the nWo storyline.. the nWo turned out to be both a blessing and a curse for WCW (and even the WWF / WWE). This video looks at 6 key problems with the nWo.
00:00 - The rise of nWo and WCW
02:26 - Too many members
04:22 - The failed exclusive TV Shows
06:56 - Main event dominance
10:41 - Too many nWo groups
13:00 - No finish to the story
17:07 - The WWF / WWE version of nWo
#WCW #nWo #Wrestling

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@TLOWNSU
@TLOWNSU 3 жыл бұрын
The 6 problems: 1. That 2. Doesn't 3. Work 4. For 5. Me 6. Brother
@alexmelendez6732
@alexmelendez6732 3 жыл бұрын
Facts
@mpjerry
@mpjerry 3 жыл бұрын
Funny
@ritchierich2793
@ritchierich2793 3 жыл бұрын
Lmfao,.. I'm 😵😵😵
@zlinedavid
@zlinedavid 3 жыл бұрын
7. Dude 8. Jack
@1979RayDay
@1979RayDay 3 жыл бұрын
AKA the Hollywood Hogan clause.
@diondorsey3376
@diondorsey3376 3 жыл бұрын
I’ll be 32 tomorrow and after all these years I still don’t think Sting should have ever joined The N.W.O…
@LaidBack--
@LaidBack-- 3 жыл бұрын
Dude... You was like 8 or 9 yrs old.. You didn't know nothing 😂
@diondorsey3376
@diondorsey3376 3 жыл бұрын
@@LaidBack-- I know that sting was less hard when he switched from The Crow Version to the Red and Black. And back in the day I used to watch WCW all the time…. So what do you know…😒
@ComicBookGuy420
@ComicBookGuy420 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah after fighting so hard against the nwo, him suddenly joining up was weird
@ComicBookGuy420
@ComicBookGuy420 3 жыл бұрын
@@LaidBack-- as opposed to people who weren't born until 10-15 years after the fact but still pretend to know everything about it?
@taydafranklin7800
@taydafranklin7800 3 жыл бұрын
I fully agree!!! And Happy Birthday
@AV57
@AV57 2 жыл бұрын
What I remember about the NWO was WCW stopped having clean matches. Every match was either a DQ with no supplemental disciple after the fact or some interference would give the win to the NWO. It got really stale really fast.
@kevinabraham9260
@kevinabraham9260 6 ай бұрын
It’s called the hulk hogan finish 🤣🤣🤣
@One.Zero.One101
@One.Zero.One101 2 ай бұрын
Agreed. The main problem is the NWO never got their comeuppance. It's Writing 101, when a stable like that takes over in kayfabe and puts everybody down, the only logical resolution is the opposing faction brews their revenge spits everything back at the NWO's face. But Bischoff is too much of a fan girl and Hogan had creative control so they forgot basic storytelling.
@ComicBookGuy420
@ComicBookGuy420 3 жыл бұрын
By the end it was 3 factions, like 70% of the roster It was at the point where disco inferno was wearing a Wolfpack shirt🤣 Just too much
@nonamegonzalez5711
@nonamegonzalez5711 10 ай бұрын
😂 basically
@FallicIdol
@FallicIdol 3 жыл бұрын
There was never a payoff. Eventually, Goldberg and DDP should have rallied the rest of WCW to beat them
@codycooper5768
@codycooper5768 3 жыл бұрын
I know it doesn't even need to be said AGAIN, but I'm gonna say it anyway.... Hogan/Sting, starcade 97.. should've been the greatest moment ever, I'm still pissed about it..
@ironman2326
@ironman2326 3 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly
@seinenwax94jr9
@seinenwax94jr9 3 жыл бұрын
A Fall Brawl War Games with Goldberg, DDP, Sting, and any 2 memorable midcarders(Jericho, Raven, Booker T, Benoit, etc) vs Hall, Nash, Hogan, Savage, and Bret with with NWO disbanding and Bischoff's career on the line would've been cooler than what we got in 97 or 98.
@fifedogg511
@fifedogg511 3 жыл бұрын
The payoff was supposed to happen after the fingerpoke of doom, Goldberg was set to destroy the nWo once and for all but Goldberg decided to punch limo windows had a major injury and then the New Blood happened when n he came back from injury
@seinenwax94jr9
@seinenwax94jr9 3 жыл бұрын
@@fifedogg511 That makes perfect sense. Even by that point, NWO wore out it's welcome.
@extremelyfunky5364
@extremelyfunky5364 3 жыл бұрын
My dad had no clue who nWo were; so one day we were watching WCW nitro and he was like "how comes most of the wrestlers have the same theme song?"
@Dgcamarena
@Dgcamarena 3 жыл бұрын
😂
@chozahfearless7524
@chozahfearless7524 3 жыл бұрын
Lmaoc
@sweetpetergeda
@sweetpetergeda 3 жыл бұрын
🤣 your dad real old huh
@nick56677
@nick56677 3 жыл бұрын
Nitro in late 98 became nauseating because half of the wrestlers theme was NWO
@zacharythomason7359
@zacharythomason7359 3 жыл бұрын
😅😅😅
@MattSinz
@MattSinz 3 жыл бұрын
If a faction has more than 6 people it's to many, 6 gives you all your bases. 1 The charismatic main eventer 2 the technical grappler 3&4 the tag team 5 the high flyer 6 the heavy
@rockk9753
@rockk9753 2 жыл бұрын
So basically DX, Shawn Micheals HHH Road Dogg and Billy Gunn aka Mr. Ass Xpac Chyna
@brothertravis7819
@brothertravis7819 2 жыл бұрын
It was too many damn people. Plain and simple
@BiggieTrismegistus
@BiggieTrismegistus 2 жыл бұрын
I think having people going after each title (world, tag team, cruiserweight, US and TV) and then a couple of guys as back-up muscle would have been the way to go. 8 guys is an intimidating, formidable group that you could present as a threat to take things over but not ridiculously huge either.
@Rockhound6165
@Rockhound6165 Жыл бұрын
@@BiggieTrismegistus I think Aces & Eights from TNA was a perfect example of a faction.
@Blackbeard0531
@Blackbeard0531 Жыл бұрын
I disagree. I loved the ministry with the brood. That had 8. 9 if u included Paul.
@davidhanmer82
@davidhanmer82 3 жыл бұрын
It's crazy how WCW unintentionally became a development territory for WWF by 1999/2000!
@Marc_Masters
@Marc_Masters 3 жыл бұрын
facts
@jordcarter2359
@jordcarter2359 Жыл бұрын
Marks
@mezykin
@mezykin Жыл бұрын
he's out of line but he's right!
@Reesarte
@Reesarte Жыл бұрын
I'd argue before that, Undertaker, HHH, Austin, Foley all got a little TV time to get started
@mazzvidz
@mazzvidz Жыл бұрын
WCW was always a 2nd class wrestling promotion. The little bit of shine they got, were from old guys that WWF turned into stars.
@amtownsyou
@amtownsyou 3 жыл бұрын
Back then even me, my grandma and my neighbour could be an nWo member
@keeponkeepinon1280
@keeponkeepinon1280 3 жыл бұрын
I was born 91 and was a mini member 💯
@seinenwax94jr9
@seinenwax94jr9 3 жыл бұрын
NWO were like the Wu Tang Clan of wrestling 😂😂
@greenkoopa
@greenkoopa 3 жыл бұрын
Did you ever get back and put some water in Buck Nasty's mama's dish?
@outlawrip-offartist4161
@outlawrip-offartist4161 3 жыл бұрын
I was born in 99, and even I join the NWO.
@midniteryder_3-16
@midniteryder_3-16 3 жыл бұрын
Even the line of ants heading to the anthill in my park are all part of the nwo!
@MrMDMPOfficial
@MrMDMPOfficial 3 жыл бұрын
They killed it by having it continue so LONG. An NWO split with a well done Hall/Nash feud or a Hall/Nash turn on Hogan would've been AWESOME
@Thor-Orion
@Thor-Orion 3 жыл бұрын
Watch superbrawl when they split them. The fans spoke, they wanted Hall and Nash together to turn on Hogan.
@MrMDMPOfficial
@MrMDMPOfficial 3 жыл бұрын
@@Thor-Orion definitely. That would've gave Hall/Nash a new life as villains and Hogan new life as a face
@dawsonbosco8217
@dawsonbosco8217 3 жыл бұрын
On the Starrcade video, I talked with someone else in the comments about how they could have used the main event to split the nWo. With Nash no-showing the event, if Hogan were to lose cleanly to Sting, Hollywood could unleash his anger at the other members for not coming out to run interference or help him, and especially Nash for not even appearing. I'm 22, so I wasn't able to watch the Wolfpac era and I understand people liked it at the time, but they could either have gone into the Wolfpac then and there or they could have completely disbanded the nWo by having them implode. Furthermore, my personal opinion is that having the nWo booked as strong as they were from the start and for so long was extremely risky. It was almost like saying, "Two guys from the other wrestling company can instill fear into our entire roster and overpower everyone" which is a bizarre message to send and surprises me with how well it was received by the fans.
@MrMDMPOfficial
@MrMDMPOfficial 3 жыл бұрын
@@dawsonbosco8217 cool storyline!!!
@MrMDMPOfficial
@MrMDMPOfficial 3 жыл бұрын
@@kevinlee9929 probably so. Either way, splitting them would've been better
@jonathanfornwalt4919
@jonathanfornwalt4919 3 жыл бұрын
The biggest problem with the nWo was that it put the spotlight mostly on aged WWF talent, even though Hall and Nash had been to WCW before they got over in WWF, and looking back at it they sacrificed the rest of the roster. They had great "home grown" guys, but only really elevated DDP and Goldberg, when they had so much more talent than those 2, and Eddie Guerrero and Chris Jericho had to leave to realize their ceiling.
@Robman0908
@Robman0908 Ай бұрын
Hard truth but Jericho, Guerrero and the others wouldn’t draw the way that those old guys did. They had a solid support center in WWF but those old guys and the nWo were beyond over.
@Larry
@Larry 3 жыл бұрын
I think the whole of the WWF "New Generation" era would make for a great problematic episode.
@acewillingham
@acewillingham 3 жыл бұрын
Truly would the new generation era was pretty much a struggling time for the company
@kenrickeason
@kenrickeason 3 жыл бұрын
Larry Bundy Jr. Introduce me to that AMAZING Mr. Big's Art of Fighting Theme (SNES version) some years ago.. And Yes! I wish he do one about the New Generation Era and The Beginning of the WCW Era after Ted Turner bought Jim Crockett Promotion out..
@str.77
@str.77 3 жыл бұрын
That's like beating a dead horse. How about Great things about the New Generation?
@gatchywatchyentertainmentb2090
@gatchywatchyentertainmentb2090 3 жыл бұрын
@@str.77 Bret. That's all I can think of.
@str.77
@str.77 3 жыл бұрын
@@gatchywatchyentertainmentb2090 Well, and that's a lot. Already better than the entire nWo in my book. But there were other good things too. All the other Hart family members, Undertaker, Razor, Shawn (despite severe issues), Perfect (when he was around), BamBam, Luna, HeadShrinkers (before they were babyfaced), Yoko (before he became too big), Quebecers, Ted DuBiase as a manager (at least in principle) and if we include 1993 (which isn't strictly New Generation) evil Doink. And yes, I actually like Double J.
@joekingman208
@joekingman208 3 жыл бұрын
Once WCW had their Nitro logo printed on the mat in late '98 when Ultimate Warrior returned, Scott Hall was drunk, Rick Steiner calling out Chucky, and the half time set Nitro pyro went off in the middle of Bam Bam Bigalow's match is when I thought WCW was going down even before Mankind's big win.
@DrDoomBloom
@DrDoomBloom 3 жыл бұрын
Right there with you!
@joekingman208
@joekingman208 3 жыл бұрын
@goku kaioken Almost anything is better than current WWE. All those robotic promos, generic looking wrestlers, predictable segments, and commercial breaks every 5 minutes.... it's 3 hours of torture. 2003 SmackDown! will always be my wrestling show. I was there when the ring collapsed in Orlando, FL
@cjvaye99
@cjvaye99 3 жыл бұрын
@@joekingman208 "generic looking wrestlers" I couldn't agree more. They're getting a little better now particularly the tag team and womens division with characters, but for a long time it's been generic boots and tights and first name last name guys.
@ComicBookGuy420
@ComicBookGuy420 3 жыл бұрын
I'll take awkward Rick vs Titantron Chucky any day over another Reigns title win
@UNIT5FAN
@UNIT5FAN 3 жыл бұрын
@@ComicBookGuy420 Reigns is more over than Rick
@superrobz
@superrobz 3 жыл бұрын
There are a couple of main problems for me: 1. Far FAR to many members toward the end 2. Too much of a good thing, like we were seeing it constantly more and more to the point where I was kind of over it 3. Egos running rough shot That’s my opinion on it anyway
@shahzadkhan-tt9oc
@shahzadkhan-tt9oc 3 жыл бұрын
I'm From PKISTAN. big wan Of OLD WRESTLING. you are an absolutely right. 3 of the Main Reasons of Their DAWNFALL.
@savagedarksider5934
@savagedarksider5934 3 жыл бұрын
@@shahzadkhan-tt9oc To be fair: WCW was probably gonna to go out of business anyway due to AOL/TimeWarmer simply did not want it and plus WWF could do things WCW couldn't do under Turner
@Makainternational
@Makainternational 3 жыл бұрын
Hulk Hogan: So what ya gonna do when hulk hogan and his huge EGO runs wild on you........ Me: Stop watching, turn over to RAW and watch WCW fold.
@njoydajourney
@njoydajourney 3 жыл бұрын
I think the members were just mismanaged. They put too many members high on the pedestal. For what its worth Hogan should have been using a new finisher or being just a manager to an up and coming potential main eventer like the Giant or Scott Norton.
@lexkanyima2195
@lexkanyima2195 3 жыл бұрын
@@njoydajourney you can't say that NWO was over the top
@dz7172
@dz7172 3 жыл бұрын
You forgot the seventh mistake: forgetting to “look at the adjective”
@Drummer_Jeff83
@Drummer_Jeff83 3 жыл бұрын
"PLAY..." 🤣🤣
@adzbeck7681
@adzbeck7681 3 жыл бұрын
You mean Adjetive 🤣
@kenrickeason
@kenrickeason 3 жыл бұрын
Even as a kid that bothered me.. I wasn't a scholar in school but I know the difference between a verb and an adjective..
@YoungRiaz
@YoungRiaz 3 жыл бұрын
One positive nwo inspired the bullet club and the elite
@zemox2534
@zemox2534 3 жыл бұрын
I love this new series. If possible, could you please talk about the 6 problems with HHH's reign of terror?
@SteRDLK
@SteRDLK 3 жыл бұрын
Problem 1 - Minute 1 of a 20 minute promo Problem 2 - Minute 2 of a 20 minute promo Problem 3 - Minute 3 of a 20 minute promo ...
@stephonwilliams5232
@stephonwilliams5232 3 жыл бұрын
@@SteRDLK can you please explain more
@TEN21Portraits
@TEN21Portraits 3 жыл бұрын
Everything. It was terrible!
@allthekingshorses7178
@allthekingshorses7178 3 жыл бұрын
Booker T at WrestleMania 19, there's an obvious one...
@koolkat518
@koolkat518 3 жыл бұрын
There are no 6 problems. The only problem is that it buried deserving talent. Kane, RVD, Jericho, Booker T, Goldust, Nash
@roryslaine7896
@roryslaine7896 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely mishandled in terms of story but damn, the nWo theme music was the best.
@seinenwax94jr9
@seinenwax94jr9 3 жыл бұрын
Those "NEW-NEW-NEW Wolrd Order 4 4 LIFE!!" watermarks were ahead of the curve before hip-hop made those things popular lol
@96bread
@96bread 3 жыл бұрын
@@seinenwax94jr9 underrated comment ^
@greenkoopa
@greenkoopa 3 жыл бұрын
Not as good as Right to Censor
@kenrickeason
@kenrickeason 3 жыл бұрын
Hell Yeah! All their theme were and still is.. Those themes are up there with Stone Cold Steve Austin's Theme..
@kenrickeason
@kenrickeason 3 жыл бұрын
@@greenkoopa LOL!!! That sh_t was annoying as hell but that was the point right.. and it did it's job.. Steve Richards was so damn annoying as a chicken sh_t heel but it worked perfectly...
@JayCord00
@JayCord00 3 жыл бұрын
As a young teen in the 90s WCW was so awesome with the Cruiserweight and after that Nwo was great (sure with problems but) great times to be a fan .
@funkyweapon1981
@funkyweapon1981 3 жыл бұрын
In high school, we wre sent home for wearing nWo and DX shirts, because the faculty thought they were gang related.
@karenault6273
@karenault6273 3 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah brother I grew up glued to the TV every Monday night flipping back and forth it was sweet now days ain't worth watching what so ever
@funkyweapon1981
@funkyweapon1981 3 жыл бұрын
@@karenault6273 I did that too!
@thequixoticangler3364
@thequixoticangler3364 Жыл бұрын
Okay. This is the 100th video of yours I've watched. You are, by a large margin, the very best wrestling historian regarding the 90s. Your pacing is frighteningly effective. Tons of info in less than 30 minutes. Feels like I watched a 2 hour documentary. Where you shine brightest is your in depth explanations of every aspect of an event that occurred. Spot on mate. Cheers. Please do more on Raven if you get a chance. Biggest waste of a big money character by both companies ever IMO.
@phreakzilla8514
@phreakzilla8514 3 жыл бұрын
Scott Hall has one of the best Stunner sells of all time. Never get tired of seeing it.
@AVENUENIGHTS
@AVENUENIGHTS 3 жыл бұрын
Him and The Rock! Bret Hart had a good one too. Just went completely stiff. Almost as if Austin broke his jaw.
@reddhead2948
@reddhead2948 2 жыл бұрын
@@AVENUENIGHTS the rocks sucked unless you are into fish flopping out of water
@0125DJ1989
@0125DJ1989 2 жыл бұрын
@@reddhead2948 I admit The Rock oversells.
@0125DJ1989
@0125DJ1989 2 жыл бұрын
What about Shane McMahon? I like Shane’s.
@baileyslife3469
@baileyslife3469 2 жыл бұрын
Him and the rock , but the rock on I’m talking about was after a show , he took two and the second one he went flying lmao
@Smac-fv9xc
@Smac-fv9xc 3 жыл бұрын
Who are you to doubt Vincent in the nWo
@greenkoopa
@greenkoopa 3 жыл бұрын
The best most original gimmick
@yelnaw
@yelnaw 3 жыл бұрын
Fuckin unsubcribed mate. Absurd!
@matthewmota9154
@matthewmota9154 3 жыл бұрын
Should've been called the new Vincent order
@outlawrip-offartist4161
@outlawrip-offartist4161 3 жыл бұрын
@@matthewmota9154 Vincent for life.
@mikebradlee
@mikebradlee 3 жыл бұрын
That's like doubting El Dandy
@xtn5378
@xtn5378 3 жыл бұрын
Wrestling Bios on Sundays is just too sweeeeet!
@seanhallahan9142
@seanhallahan9142 2 жыл бұрын
Sting vs NWO and Stone Cold vs Vince may never be matched in terms of absolute brilliance. You could simply never miss it. The amount of excitement I had as a kid when Sting appeared or Stone Colds music hit has never been matched. Maybe Edge return was close.
@tuntunn8063
@tuntunn8063 3 жыл бұрын
I always loved that WCW original Nitro set. Very nostalgic.
@icetray2727
@icetray2727 3 жыл бұрын
The nWo should’ve ended either when Sting won the title at Starrcade or when Goldberg won the title on Nitro.
@chozahfearless7524
@chozahfearless7524 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like the Wolfpack should have been it’s own stable as opposed to an extension of the nwo it should have been wcw’s answer to dx
@wilnerolivier7971
@wilnerolivier7971 3 жыл бұрын
@Damien Jones HBK, HHH, X-Pac, Hall & Nash were members of the Kilq!!
@jpbart1390
@jpbart1390 2 жыл бұрын
@@chozahfearless7524 dx was practically the lovechild of nwo & raven's flock. silly idea in my opinion.
@jpbart1390
@jpbart1390 2 жыл бұрын
@@fromtexas2734 hogan was already a has been by then. goldberg never really grabbed me. not much of a wrestler, barely more than just a brute.
@chozahfearless7524
@chozahfearless7524 2 жыл бұрын
@@jpbart1390 I definitely don’t see that but ok
@vannag2162
@vannag2162 3 жыл бұрын
Loving the new “Problems” mini series within the channel. 💙
@tyleronmars4966
@tyleronmars4966 3 жыл бұрын
Me 2
@creepyinstigator
@creepyinstigator 3 жыл бұрын
i lost interest when there were no clean finishes, and every thing was interference by the NWO. it seemed like a waste after the impact of the hogan heal turn.
@jpbart1390
@jpbart1390 2 жыл бұрын
it did get stupid & that's why i eventually turned off.
@AV57
@AV57 2 жыл бұрын
What, you didn’t like NWO breaking up every match on the card to prove how badass they were?
@jpbart1390
@jpbart1390 2 жыл бұрын
@@AV57 i got annoyed with it after a while, myself.
@bdr113080
@bdr113080 2 жыл бұрын
They were clean finishes it’s just no one likes to talk about it anymore. Hogan loss clean to piper and Goldberg which is something he had never done in WWF. Kevin Nash, Scott Hall and Syxx Lost the Slamboree main event to piper, flair and Kevin Green cleanly. And those three the three Kliq Members lost more PPV matches then they won.
@creepyinstigator
@creepyinstigator 2 жыл бұрын
@@bdr113080 it happened more often than it did not for me to loose interest, especially towards the decline of the company.
@32ekoc
@32ekoc 3 жыл бұрын
The number 1 real problem, Hulk Hogan's ego... also Company Killer's very ironic
@lexkanyima2195
@lexkanyima2195 3 жыл бұрын
The Kliq
@mdot100
@mdot100 3 жыл бұрын
Bischoff kept kissing Hogan's ass when he should've told him to sit down and STFU!! Remember he was getting booed weekly before he turned heel! He should've been grateful that he had a second life with the NWO turn, instead his ego got even bigger and he destroyed the locker room with his antics!
@nachiketdaithankar4405
@nachiketdaithankar4405 3 жыл бұрын
The Rock making fun of all 3 members was Rock at his comedic promo best😎
@AnthonyAnalog
@AnthonyAnalog 3 жыл бұрын
The semi horn toot 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
@detailsmatter.
@detailsmatter. 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@youngbainthin5193
@youngbainthin5193 3 жыл бұрын
You! Chico!
@fergalstackstreams
@fergalstackstreams 3 жыл бұрын
The ultimate irony being Nash, the guy who buried everyone in WCW, bitching about the Rock burying him in promos.
@drjohnsmith5282
@drjohnsmith5282 3 жыл бұрын
These Six Problems videos are great, brother. Real in-depth analysis and attention to detail. A series l for one would love to see continue. You truly are the best wrestling KZbin channel, brother. Please keep it up
@lexkanyima2195
@lexkanyima2195 3 жыл бұрын
That's a good details
@superquokka
@superquokka 3 жыл бұрын
The storytelling could be so incoherent for WCW in those days. So many Nitros would just end in complete chaos. Alliances would change constantly to the point of being meaningless. Yet it still felt like you were on the verge of seeing something amazing. But the signature main event moment never came.
@MarveltheCross316
@MarveltheCross316 3 жыл бұрын
The original NWO faction should have ended at Starcade 1997 when Sting won the title. I would have had the NWO come back as a new faction in the form of the Wolfpack a few months later and have Sting as the heel leader of the group
@rayvenkman2087
@rayvenkman2087 Жыл бұрын
They should have check in on Sting, had him be better prepared and introduce Bret as an unexpected ally from the outside whom foils a run-in attempt. Plus making Hogan to do the J.O.B cleanly.
@E_l_l_i_e
@E_l_l_i_e 3 жыл бұрын
7. Glacier was not the third man.
@mikebottomlesspitdunham2954
@mikebottomlesspitdunham2954 3 жыл бұрын
Cool idea.
@mikebottomlesspitdunham2954
@mikebottomlesspitdunham2954 3 жыл бұрын
@Matthew Hodge he was just one year late. And if his 1999(I think it was) repackage occurred in 97 then it would be slightly more fond of by people.
@jpbart1390
@jpbart1390 2 жыл бұрын
@@mikebottomlesspitdunham2954 pun intended?
@mikebottomlesspitdunham2954
@mikebottomlesspitdunham2954 2 жыл бұрын
@@jpbart1390 fully intended.
@guillermosierracuellar9812
@guillermosierracuellar9812 3 жыл бұрын
WCW heel wrestler or jobber: Can I join the NWO NWO: yes anyone can join
@funkyweapon1981
@funkyweapon1981 3 жыл бұрын
"My mom is in the nWo!" used to be a joke in high school.
@attiepollard7847
@attiepollard7847 3 жыл бұрын
It should have been at least 10 members with 7 members with all the belts with buff bagwell, Virgil and the other two no names being a comedy relief stooges. That should have been your NWO.
@Rob_Thorsman
@Rob_Thorsman 3 жыл бұрын
...except Ed Leslie.
@icharneco29
@icharneco29 3 жыл бұрын
@@attiepollard7847 Heavyweight Champion= Hogan US Champion= Scott Steiner TV Champion- Curt Hennig Tag Champions= Hall and Nash Cruiserweight Champion= Syxx Muscle/Fodder = Norton , Adams ,Konan Management = Rude and DiBiase that's it
@attiepollard7847
@attiepollard7847 3 жыл бұрын
@@icharneco29 lol we're Vincent at
@LongLiveRockAnRoll
@LongLiveRockAnRoll 3 жыл бұрын
Knowing wrestling bios, the fact they let Ed Leslie in at one point.
@lordcolinb
@lordcolinb 3 жыл бұрын
Of course
@jacobcarr5647
@jacobcarr5647 3 жыл бұрын
Come on man bootyman equals booties in seats. That's common knowledge lol
@michaelboyer7253
@michaelboyer7253 3 жыл бұрын
Episode ideas for series: 1. The Kliq 2. North American territory era 3. TNA 4. Vince Russo booking 5. NXT 6. WWE Authority factions 7. McMahon vs McMahon storylines 8. WWF Golden Age 9. WWF Attitude era 10. Hardcore wrestling 11. WWE 2K video games 12. Modern WWE creative 13. Modern WWE censorship of Archive material 14. Kayfabe 15. Pre Modern era women’s wrestling 16. Modern WWE Scripted promos 17. Dungeon of Doom 18. WCW (88-93) 19. WCW Thunder 20. WWF in 1995
@johndoe603
@johndoe603 3 жыл бұрын
The thing about there being too many members. It made sense considering that their gimmick was to be more than just another faction but an invading force trying to take over, with faces and heels on the WCW side in unison against them. I know you mentioned that some of the more "questionable choices" were probably made with the nWo show in mind, but regardless of that show not pulling the ratings they had hoped for, I do at least see where they were going from the storyline perspective. They were trying to appear to be something more than just another WCW stable, at that time. That was one of the major differences of the whole nWo thing. I wouldn't have had as much of an issue with the "split" and the "Wolfpac" if they had done it differently. They fired Syxx, broke up Hall and Nash, and put people like Lex Luger in it (only because he was a big name), whose character really just didn't belong or fit the intended group vibe. The glass ceiling for younger talent was very annoying at the time, though. I don't blame the ones who left for the WWE and what was greener pastures back then.
@MrSinister718
@MrSinister718 Жыл бұрын
Exactly. It's almost like people forget they were masquerading as their own promotion, looking like the old WWF. It fooled the marks, and confused these smarks
@WarhawkBeyond2040
@WarhawkBeyond2040 3 жыл бұрын
Another fantastic video as always 👏 Keep up the good work 👍 I'd love to see a video about the problems with the Corporate Ministry
@derrickhaggard
@derrickhaggard 3 жыл бұрын
I never got into the Corporate Ministry. I liked the Ministry of Darkness it was a awesome heel faction, but after that reveal and the formation of the Corporate Ministry I lost all interest and hype for the faction.
@WarhawkBeyond2040
@WarhawkBeyond2040 3 жыл бұрын
@@derrickhaggard me either, I definitely loved the Ministry of Darkness much more and didn't like it when they merged with the Corporation to become the Corporate Ministry as I felt it completely murdered all of Undertaker and his faction's mystique.
@jpbart1390
@jpbart1390 2 жыл бұрын
@@derrickhaggard when were they? i never heard of them. must've been within the past 20 years. i gave up on wrestling in '99.
@chucksballin285
@chucksballin285 2 жыл бұрын
@@jpbart1390 around 98 or 99
@HereForAStorm
@HereForAStorm 3 жыл бұрын
19:23 imagine that kind of shot being shown of tv today lmao
@AceGoodheart
@AceGoodheart 3 жыл бұрын
Lol, send in the FBI
@lalomontoyajr.9282
@lalomontoyajr.9282 3 жыл бұрын
Love this channel. The best wrestling channel on KZbin! Talks good information, smart, entertaining and very respectful to the sport and to the wrestlers who competed in it.
@eveningstar4543
@eveningstar4543 3 жыл бұрын
DDP was friends with Scott Hall and Kevin Nash and Biscoff that's how DDP got his spot. DDP and Gb were both insanely popular with the casual audience.
@dwaynegreene152
@dwaynegreene152 3 жыл бұрын
#7 They didnt recruit El Dandy. Hes a great technician, a high flyer of the highest magnitude, and to top it all off, hes a jam up guy.
@landeny65
@landeny65 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed. They doubted el Dandy.
@dwaynegreene152
@dwaynegreene152 3 жыл бұрын
Who were they to doubt El Dandy?
@axeoseilez3207
@axeoseilez3207 3 жыл бұрын
Good analysis you did major research just as expected. You are one of if not the best wrestling historians on youtube. Every upload helps me learn about the business I love.
@kylealexander1514
@kylealexander1514 3 жыл бұрын
Now this is the sort of content I love to see as 'New' on KZbin. Great video Wrestling Bios, thank you!
@MrFredson91
@MrFredson91 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! Our prayers have been heard! Lol keep making more of your 6 problems series
@Simon2Dope
@Simon2Dope 3 жыл бұрын
I would like to see a Bio/Documentation about the Million Dollar Corporation. Or about King of the Ring 1995 and why it was such a booking disaster. Or about Miss Elisabeths time in WCW, when she was there mostly as a heel valet after all those WWF babyface years. Your work is fantastic. I watch your channel everyday.
@yodon6867
@yodon6867 3 жыл бұрын
You need to do one about WCW never build up younger wrestlers
@sithmaster4305
@sithmaster4305 3 жыл бұрын
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't WCW have people like AJ Styles, and James Storm as jobbers? Shame they didn't recognize talent that would've made them last.
@SteRDLK
@SteRDLK 3 жыл бұрын
@@sithmaster4305 Not sure if you're criticising WCW here, but AJ Styles was only in his early 20's at that point. It'd be like criticising WWE for having Jeff Hardy as a jobber in his early career.
@yodon6867
@yodon6867 3 жыл бұрын
They did have AJ
@MrMuaythai84
@MrMuaythai84 3 жыл бұрын
@@SteRDLK AJ style sucks look like a stupid high school jocky
@Jk201
@Jk201 3 жыл бұрын
I love your content man. Especially the reliving the wars . I didn’t have cable growing up so I had to get my info via second hand by friends and magazines when we would go grocery shopping. Just signed up for the patreon, I respect you booker man ! Much love
@MrBeardsley
@MrBeardsley 3 жыл бұрын
Another problem with the nWo that occurred to me while watching this, namely their lack of cruiserweights and younger talent. They had Waltman and Konnan (at least when they weren’t injured or no-showing), but for the most part the faction was full of midcarders either past their primes or that worked more traditional “rasslin” styles. Imagine how differently they would’ve been perceived if they had guys like Guerrero or Jericho in the mix.
@GHOST91141
@GHOST91141 3 жыл бұрын
Everything was good until they start letting any and everybody into the group
@mageside
@mageside 3 жыл бұрын
They just saw the future and took a cue from Finn Balor's Balor Club is for everyone, though Balor meant that in a spirtual sort of way to refer to his fan club and those associated with The Bullet Club, I think nWo took that the wrong and meant that all the boys SHOULD be included haha
@mageside
@mageside 3 жыл бұрын
They just saw the future and took a cue from Finn Balor's Balor Club is for everyone, though Balor meant that in a spirtual sort of way to refer to his fan club and those associated with The Bullet Club, I think nWo took that the wrong and meant that all the boys SHOULD be included haha
@RetroHabit82
@RetroHabit82 3 жыл бұрын
It should have stayed ex WWF guys only
@Roflcrabs
@Roflcrabs 3 жыл бұрын
I think Hogan, Nash, Hall, Steiner, Konan, Bagwell an Norton should have been it. Bagwell deserved a better push imo and Norton could have been like an enforcer type like Arn Anderson. Syxx would have been cool but he fit better in DX.
@adrianshappymoments9343
@adrianshappymoments9343 3 жыл бұрын
You mean to tell me Ed Leslie and Vincent weren't the backbone of the NWO?
@PandoraZBoX1
@PandoraZBoX1 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for all your hard work every time you pop up with a new episode I watch it,thanks again
@smarkymark5591
@smarkymark5591 3 жыл бұрын
Loving the fact your creating diff types of videos... 10/10.... Videos like this are well interesting to me, keep it up 👊
@downwithputinsaveukraine1313
@downwithputinsaveukraine1313 3 жыл бұрын
If they kept it down to a reasonable number of members and had a payoff with the heels eventually losing, it'd have worked. But everyone got beaten up by then and simply joined them the next week. B/c the group was so big, they sucked up all the oxygen in the room and cost a lot of guys chances. Also, Crispen Wah.
@danielproctor5237
@danielproctor5237 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a video about ravens flock or even the four horseman. You're the best at what you do and I'm sure I'll enjoy whatever you decide to cover next!
@ssexton
@ssexton 2 жыл бұрын
Been keeping up with your videos for a while. This may be my favorite. Great work.
@sofakingonmynuts1438
@sofakingonmynuts1438 Жыл бұрын
We absolutely loved it, and i was torn between the two franchise, the factions, the brilliant wrestles, production, it was great.
@dj_lightbulbs
@dj_lightbulbs 3 жыл бұрын
Hope this 6 problems with series is one to stay because its definitely entertaining
@roccotheman4154
@roccotheman4154 3 жыл бұрын
NWO was perfect at first, but for me personally it got played out in early 97
@lexkanyima2195
@lexkanyima2195 3 жыл бұрын
Played out in early 97 ? They had just on a roll
@christophernicholson20
@christophernicholson20 3 жыл бұрын
Your next video should be "the 6 problems of Triple h's championship reign of terror and burying talent
@scottmay2401
@scottmay2401 3 жыл бұрын
I would like to see a segment on the LWO. While brief, I always thought it was a interesting angle. Great video as always, thank for your time!
@calvuswom8603
@calvuswom8603 3 жыл бұрын
With Evolution being mentioned, is a video about Triple Hs so called "Reign of Terror" possible?
@kingkosher6231
@kingkosher6231 3 жыл бұрын
Well since you did videos for Raven in ECW, WCW and WWF you should do his TNA/Impact career. The Career Of Kurt Angle would be incredible as well.
@tayocham1
@tayocham1 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a video about the Fabulous Freebirds, the Freebird Rule and teams and factions that have evoked said Rule through the years. Keep up the good work!
@PaulRizzo
@PaulRizzo 3 жыл бұрын
Nothing will ever touch WCW 96-99. Just the best.
@dbszady
@dbszady 3 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see a video on the Wyatt Family. So much potential and a great idea that seemed to always be thrown off to the side when WWE needed to push someone else
@bigpoppajersh
@bigpoppajersh 3 жыл бұрын
A black and blue nWo was planned with savage as its head. It was gonna be nWo madness with savage,Sid,scott steiner and the other members of team madness from 1999 but it never materialized.
@gqsmoove87
@gqsmoove87 3 жыл бұрын
Where can I find this information at
@charliebuckett4753
@charliebuckett4753 3 жыл бұрын
Your videos are ridiculously entertaing...love em bro...keep it up
@richardhalligan7900
@richardhalligan7900 2 жыл бұрын
@wrestlingbios What I love about your channel is that you get right to the point, unlike channels like What Culture which spends more time trying to be funny with dumb jokes than getting on with the topic. God bless you sir with great content, tone, pacing, and detailed programing.
@undertakerfan0658
@undertakerfan0658 3 жыл бұрын
I love the ministry of darkness and I’ve known some of their big problems too, I think a ministry problems video would be really interesting
@sethkaplan
@sethkaplan 3 жыл бұрын
Nwo Saturday night 🤪🤪
@aeonthemagus7841
@aeonthemagus7841 3 жыл бұрын
Its Sunday
@terryeubanks8797
@terryeubanks8797 3 жыл бұрын
Another fantastic video. I'd love to see one about the late-90s WWF faction "The Oddities". I was always really interested by them, but they had a pretty short run overall.
@mikehoward4546
@mikehoward4546 3 жыл бұрын
I am less than 5 seconds in and already dropped the like. Thanks for ALWAYS bringing great content.
@operatorhoot470
@operatorhoot470 3 жыл бұрын
The amount of times WWE brought back DX only to fizzle out has got to be similar
@lexkanyima2195
@lexkanyima2195 3 жыл бұрын
That's different
@danielm9678
@danielm9678 3 жыл бұрын
Egomania running wild, brother!
@isaacpeachey8609
@isaacpeachey8609 3 жыл бұрын
I love your new series and I like how you’ve been able to tackle wrestling topics in a way that hasn’t been done on KZbin.
@BigSparky1316
@BigSparky1316 5 күн бұрын
Im 31 years old and watching Nitro from 96-98 it was so awesome seeing the Wolf Pack Black and Red NWO form. Sting was always my favorite in WCW and i thoughts that Red and Black paint looked so epic.
@user-hv3wi7cf8i
@user-hv3wi7cf8i 3 жыл бұрын
Only 6?
@Tom_TheDon
@Tom_TheDon 3 жыл бұрын
They were good for 6 months until everyman and his dog became a member
@49baybridge
@49baybridge 3 жыл бұрын
We are all truely waiting for u to do the highly anticipated video on the one any only, GILBERG
@travisford6663
@travisford6663 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video keep them coming!
@Carnage84587
@Carnage84587 3 жыл бұрын
I remember, when I was a kid, really digging the nWo at first. But eventually my brother and I were captivated by the antics happening on WWF - just thought the characters were more entertaining. I remember tuning into WCW occasionally after awhile and just being so confused...seemed like everyone was in nWo, then there was the Wolf Pac and just...yeah, a mess.
@bobmonk64
@bobmonk64 3 жыл бұрын
Where can I get a longer version of the intro NWO remix?!
@theman.4692
@theman.4692 2 жыл бұрын
I’m so glad I came back to this channel
@largol33t1
@largol33t1 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this video. You stated precisely why the NWO may have been a great idea but also shot itself in the foot. This was a well made and well researched video.
@danielnerdal
@danielnerdal 3 жыл бұрын
1. Glacier wasn't the third man. 2. Glacier wasn't the fourth man. 3. Glacier wasn't the fifth man and so on
@AnthonyAnalog
@AnthonyAnalog 3 жыл бұрын
There's a timeline where Scott Hall was the main player of the nWo, Sting beats Hogan clean at Starrcade, and WCW won the Monday Might Wars.
@NitroNEXT
@NitroNEXT 3 жыл бұрын
Not likely. Hall wasn't the type to politic his way into being the top guy, Nash was but without Hogan they wouldn't have made such an impact. The AOL-Time Warner merger meant WCW was on an inevitable death clock no matter if they won the war or not. The executives wanted wrestling gone.
@lexkanyima2195
@lexkanyima2195 3 жыл бұрын
@@NitroNEXT then why it's confusion ?
@joehunter7936
@joehunter7936 3 жыл бұрын
I really hope this channel makes a video about Ernest "The Cat" Miller sometime in the near future, that would be awesome. 👏🏽🍿💪🏾
@CharmCityGamer
@CharmCityGamer 2 жыл бұрын
The nWo was special, my dad before he died loved them, we loved them together. Thanks for this and reminding me of the good times I had with him brother!
@blacknapalm2131
@blacknapalm2131 3 жыл бұрын
Can anyone remember actually seeing a 'Fake Sting' match? He must have had the cushiest job in all of wrestling, he just stood around in the background and occasionally took a Scorpion Death Drop!
@jb888888888
@jb888888888 3 жыл бұрын
WCW era Lanny Poffo had the cushiest job.
@Rando1975
@Rando1975 3 жыл бұрын
He did wrestle pretty regularly in New Japan at the time, but I can't actually remember any match he wrestled in WCW.
@TheRevengeSociety
@TheRevengeSociety 3 жыл бұрын
Big ups wrestlingbios
@dawsonbosco8217
@dawsonbosco8217 3 жыл бұрын
Something I feel would be an interesting video down the line, possibly at the end of Reliving the War: using Glacier as a case study/omen for why WCW fell apart. Convoluted storylines (Blood Runs Cold), holding onto stuff for too long (the huge delay in Glacier's debut), failing to fulfill announced cards/good booking (Glacier was announced to debut in July and subsequently did not), and major funding issues (Glacier's entrance and attire being ridiculously expensive for a midcard guy).
@peartreeproductions77
@peartreeproductions77 3 жыл бұрын
That was great, thank you as ever !
@petegorman9547
@petegorman9547 3 жыл бұрын
Wrestling Bio’s is a absolute legend Another tremendous video just like the rest of them Wrestling Bio’s is my number 1 KZbin channel now & the timing could not be better You are providing nostalgia for people like me and also in crazy world these days this channel provides a much needed escape from the day to day headaches I love you Wrestling Bio ❤️
@newcastle9579
@newcastle9579 3 жыл бұрын
Could do with a few videos on the 1999-2000 Russo craziness in WCW and the company's death spiral. Don't think that's been covered in detail. Would love to know if you think things could have been turned around by that point.
@CommodoreFloopjack78
@CommodoreFloopjack78 3 жыл бұрын
I miss the nWo Wolfpac. When they managed to get Sting on board, I just flipped out. Best period of pro wrestling EVER.
@steelcurtain187
@steelcurtain187 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing work as usual
@nomikes4392
@nomikes4392 3 жыл бұрын
Biggest problem with the NWO: No Mulkeys Second Problem: No Davy Boy chin locks, A static picture of the Mulkeys could have been an end to the story line
@Cycopace
@Cycopace 3 жыл бұрын
...and no Glacier in the nWo...😀😀😀
@willc2480
@willc2480 3 жыл бұрын
@@Cycopace he was too busy iceterbating.... sorry I’ll let my self out
@adielrrosas1980
@adielrrosas1980 3 жыл бұрын
How bout “6 problems with modern wrestling” I’ll be interesting to see your take on it
@PaulybiGGballZ0820
@PaulybiGGballZ0820 3 жыл бұрын
Wtf watches wrestling these days? I know I dont..garbage
@Rayuzx
@Rayuzx 3 жыл бұрын
1-3 WWE is too clean 2-6 AEW is too goody
@shermhart7617
@shermhart7617 3 жыл бұрын
Aew is best wreslting ever
@VindictiveRaider
@VindictiveRaider 3 жыл бұрын
I looked at the pin nail I'm like oh oh here we go. But be honest you nailed it right on the head. Great video!
@charlesbird4732
@charlesbird4732 3 жыл бұрын
Completely agree with all 6! Yet another great video!!!
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