WTF Happened to SUICIDE SQUAD (2016)?

[@xflashbacks]

I don't care if it's a masterpiece or dogshit, I just want to see the Ayer Cut because I want to see the director's vision realized plain and simple.

[@Axolotl_Mischief]

Editting can't fix poor directing, ugly af art direction and a bad script, kid. In the end, the dialogue would still be bottom of the barrel garbage, the plot would still be idiotic, and it would look like total and complete 5h1t.

[@xflashbacks]

@@Axolotl_Mischief still want to see it, train wreck or not

[@gbrogo7139]

@@Axolotl_Mischief the bad dialogue was from reshoots buddy

[@youshallnotpass3937]

@@Axolotl_Mischief oh shut up "kid", who unironically calls someone kid? And the art direction was actually kind of cool (sometimes), but I guess it's up to personal taste.

[@IronTonyStark]

This notion of the "director's vision" has become so romanticized over the years. Some projects or types of film simply don't necessarily lend themselves to a "director's vision". It depends on the type of film, and on the type of director and what they have planned.

[@SeanChandlerTalksAbout]

It’s wild to me that WB seems ok with Ayer, the actors and other talent openly sharing their opinions on what went to down.

[@Lazrael32]

They seem mostly cool with whedon now that everyone has outted him. It's the same everywhere money is made. They are rich and make us rich? Then whatever they do is excusable.

[@The_eyebrowguy]

Sean when’s the next video

[@baylinersimp787]

Probably because they know it was their fault, but they don’t want to openly admit it, so they’ll let their cast and crew do it for them

[@SeanChandlerTalksAbout]

@@baylinersimp787 I think a good bit of it is because there's a new regime. So all the quotes about how bad things were in 2016 and 2017 make the current executives look good.

[@GracUntoYou]

Matthew 6:33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you./Inspiration+This verse reminds us of the primacy of Heaven and the need for our commitment to finding salvation in the afterlife. Through trying to become more perfect for our Lord in the image of our Savior Jesus Christ, we allow ourselves to become better people here on earth. This is the meaning of righteousness added on to us; for if we allow the example of Christ to inhabit our lives, in readying us for the afterlife, our deeds on earth cannot help but please God more. /Prayer+ Lord God, my eyes are trained upon Your Heaven, striving to become every day more like Your only begotten Son. In this, grant me strength Lord, for I know righteousness, virtue and bliss will follow me wherever I walk in Jesus’ name and light. And it is in prayer Lord, that I ask You to safeguard for me a place within Your Heavenly Kingdom, for I know my body may fail, as quick as all tomorrows -but Your paradise lives on, burning bright in the hearts of angels. Amen.

[@philthytanks4952]

I still want to see the Ayers cut, it’s a shame they’ll never release it….

[@aradamichaels927]

I'm surprised you can still support a guy like that who just takes everyone's dark secrets/fears and exposes them for "good" performances and such...

[@Stumme-40203]

@@aradamichaels927 If the actors were hurt by it, they would’ve quit or spoke out about it.

[@aradamichaels927]

@@Stumme-40203 maybe they're still uncomfortable to speak up about things like that. It took a long time for people to speak up against Ellen Degeneres. And with the Ayer cut being kind of a trend..just saying. I just can't imagine telling people to tell your secrets and then outing them in front of all the cast and crew just to get reactions could sit well with people. I don't know..seems a bit toxic imo.

[@Axolotl_Mischief]

Editting can't fix poor directing, ugly af art direction and a bad script, kid. In the end, the dialogue would still be bottom of the barrel garbage, the plot would still be idiotic, and it would look like total and complete 5h1t.

[@gbrogo7139]

@@aradamichaels927 what do you mean?

[@javavibe]

This is an honest question. Has there ever been a movie that benefited from studio interference? It always seems like the executives get involved thinking they are protecting their investment and windup making a substandard movie that gets blasted when it's released.

[@sunsetman22]

absolutely. it's incredible how this keeps happening even though the results are always abismal, both financially and artistically.

[@the.gods.of.obliviousity]

The Exorcist 3.....apparently the original ending was pretty quiet with just some interaction between kinderman and the gemini killer......studio got them to change to something a bit more action filled.....and it did work out.......Red Letter Media did a review of the movie and they talk about it if you want to know more

[@wwb16]

rogue one and solo

[@My_Ruin]

Yeah, hire writers and directors. They pitch the idea and everyone signs off. But then meddle with shit as soon as it starts. I don’t get why hiring certain writers or directors. Only to stamp all over the work.

[@jacksonwayneputnam1599]

Yes. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

[@ReelRejects]

I only discovered this series in past couple weeks and I absolutely LOVE IT! Thank you for this. I’ve learned so many fascinating aspects behind the scenes for even some films I didn’t actually watch haha

[@JoBloOriginals]

Welcome aboard!

[@baylinersimp787]

Hope to see your reactions for these videos some time in the future!

[@bottombarrelbudgetfilms1854]

Check out his Bond videos while you're here!

[@SeanChandlerTalksAbout]

They’re all fantastic. I even watch them for movies I haven’t seen. There’s more on JoBlos horror channel.

[@iLLWiLL173]

Same here ...love this channel...me and my girlfriend are now hooked on this series in particular haha but all of it is fun especially the Revisited stuff

[@mosesmoorhouse]

Not only did you nail Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje’s name, you really added some stank to it and I respect that

[@GracUntoYou]

Matthew 6:33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you./Inspiration+This verse reminds us of the primacy of Heaven and the need for our commitment to finding salvation in the afterlife. Through trying to become more perfect for our Lord in the image of our Savior Jesus Christ, we allow ourselves to become better people here on earth. This is the meaning of righteousness added on to us; for if we allow the example of Christ to inhabit our lives, in readying us for the afterlife, our deeds on earth cannot help but please God more. /Prayer+ Lord God, my eyes are trained upon Your Heaven, striving to become every day more like Your only begotten Son. In this, grant me strength Lord, for I know righteousness, virtue and bliss will follow me wherever I walk in Jesus’ name and light. And it is in prayer Lord, that I ask You to safeguard for me a place within Your Heavenly Kingdom, for I know my body may fail, as quick as all tomorrows -but Your paradise lives on, burning bright in the hearts of angels. Amen.

[@mosesmoorhouse]

@@GracUntoYou yeah but did you see the Shark guy in the new one? He was so cool wasn’t he?!

[@MrDeedsly]

@@GracUntoYou Something something imaginary spaghetti monster.

[@GracUntoYou]

@@MrDeedsly wdym And how did you come to that conclusion of the spaghetti monster?

[@Random_Traveler_]

@@GracUntoYou Can confirm: Spaghetti Monster is lord and savior. Praise the pasta! Amen.

[@arp3259]

I’ll forever remember the name Kevin Tsujihara During his reign that was the most bull crap studio interference directors working at WB had to deal with

[@ScottySpliff1]

It’s crazy right

[@Mextlatec]

and Geoff Johns

[@codyt821]

Yep, fuck that guy. He had no right to be in the executive position he was in.

[@motherplayer]

You know, for better or for worse, I really respect that the new film thanked Ayer in the credits section. In spite of it all, he did walk so this concept could run proper.

[@MenaCourtadeProductions]

Loved and respected Gunn even more for that he's a true filmmaker.

[@MenaCourtadeProductions]

Mad love and respect for Gunn for showing Ayer love in interviews and end credits. Ayer needs his cut cause i loved Gunns version. Why cant we have Snyder with Gunn both doing hard R stuff... doesn't any one remember Dawn of the dead was by both Snyder and Gunn.

[@Strawberryandre3]

This is arguably my favorite KZbin series. Thank you @joblo for the content!

[@danielmarcus420]

I gotta agree! I love these videos too!

[@Sjcstro84]

Yeah its great. I watch listen while I cook.

[@JoBloOriginals]

Thanks so much!

[@LegendoftheAce1]

Why does everyone think Amanda Waller originally brought the team together to stop Enchantess? She was throwing around the idea that what if an evil Superman level threat came. What would we do? Along the way Enchantess broke free and freed her brother making a new threat for the team to fight

[@uosdwiSrdewoH]

We aren't going to talk about David Ayer starting a Fight Club in his living room as a way for the actors to get to know each other? Is that where he got the idea? Did he think it was a documentary on male bonding and could work with his actors in the same way?

[@Ryan-the-Rocketeer]

I would pay to see that ayer cut. Good or bad i just love the premise of task force x

[@sirjames3494]

Tom Hardy as Rick Flag would’ve been amazing in my opinion

[@rayromano6249]

Tom hardy plays the same character in every film

[@bodd-energon5502]

@@rayromano6249 Wait till you watch him in Bronson, which is carried by his best performance in my opinion

[@mohdamerulaidilbinrazisahm7317]

Joel redeem himself as Rick Flag in The Suicide Squad

[@margarethmichelina5146]

Watch Rick Flag in The Suicide Squad, he's way lovable, charismatic and even funnier than the first one

[@alexanderasher3461]

Do directors direct the movie? Or do the studio heads?

[@JoBloOriginals]

Very unclear these days isn't it?

[@anthonymartensen3164]

@@JoBloOriginals Apparently James Gunn got to direct his own Suicide Squad, I've been hearing a little bit about that one.

[@sahilsehdev4235]

I see a lotta comments about ayer just generally being a bad director. True he's had some stinkers with films like sabotage and bright, but one shouldnt discount his work on films like end of watch, fury, street kings, harsh times. I was very excited when it was announced that he would direct, as his films are usually very raw, hard-hitting, and are filmed in a way that is shockingly realistic. So i totally believe him when he says the film is a soulful drama. Might sound odd, but ayer is talented imo

[@sunsetman22]

directors direct the movie and then the studio heads come in, freak the fuck out for no reason at all, and then proceed to ruin the movie, mandating reshoots, cutting vital scenes and generally ruining everything. and then when shit hits the fan, the director takes the fall for it. happens all the time.

[@kazuhirala]

With WB it’s been cleared that the studio does.

[@tjuk8050]

Never knew that a different darker version existed. I wanna see that now.

[@memyopinionsche6610]

I still think MAN OF STEEL holds up as a great start to the DCU.

[@adamdavidsoddities8573]

It's a solid film imo

[@Nagore6305]

The movies problems could be blamed for studio and writer conflicts with how the movie direction would go, darker movie could have been interesting if done and wanting something of the same vein as Guardians of the Galaxy would have been great too if done correctly. Truthfully if the movie followed Guardians, Suicide Squad could have been very enjoyable. But these are not the main issues of the movie, the main problems are: the pacing was ridiculously slow and had unnecessary points; the characters acted like just a bunch of generic thieves and criminals NOT dangerous supervillains; one villain is actually does nothing (Diablo) because he's trying to be a pacifist which you have to question WHY is he on the team in the first place; and finally Waller says it was a success even though it was her fault the main villain destroyed so much. The ONLY good that came out of this movie is that they found the perfect actress to play Harley Quinn.

[@taionalmeida5337]

Perfect. The movie could have been made worse by the editing and Studio decisions but the truth is the base material was pretty bad. David Ayer never was outstanding Nor writing Nor directing ... We must remember that even If the editing was unfair to his vision the acting was directed by him. Problems of bad acting are everywhere ... Probably the final movie would be a darker version with less jokes but the same structural problems. There must be no Holy Grail to be found.

[@What.99]

I just wanna say that I think Jai Courtney being casted as Captain Boomerang was also something good that came out of Suicide Squad. He gets a lot of hate, some of which is undeserved IMO, but out of all of his roles, Captain Boomerang is my favorite of his. It’s the only character of his that I flat-out love, even though the character is a real scumbag lol. Jai Courtney fucking nailed the character. At the very least, everyone now knows he can do an authentic Australian accent… probably cuz he’s an actual Australian lol.

[@margarethmichelina5146]

@@What.99 Both Jai Courtney and Margot Robbie are Australians. But, I do agree, both of them deliver their characters perfectly even coming back in the sequel / standalone or whatever. Even Rick Flag is way likeable in The Suicide Squad than in Suicide Squad. I can't imagine anyone else potraying Harley Quinn besides Margot Robbie in live action movie.

[@What.99]

@@margarethmichelina5146 Yeah, I liked Rick Flagg much more in The Suicide Squad than Suicide Squad. But to be fair, Rick Flagg isn’t supposed to be a very likable character. He has to deal with criminals and people who are constantly trying to stab him in the back, so it makes sense how he was written in the first movie. Hell, even his own boss manipulated him and used his feelings for June Moon to control him, so I’d say he was written more realistically in the first movie.

[@ameenaceesay1376]

Rick Flagg’s role in Suicide Squad was mainly to spew exposition. The Suicide Squad at least gave him more of a character, so he’s a hell of a lot better in that instance. Then again, that’s a wayyy better movie imo

[@garlandstrife]

I hate studio meddling. I hope the Ayer cut sees the light of day.

[@mrmillionman110]

We need the Ayer Cut. I fell in love with the first trailer they released for Suicide Squad (dark and grim drama), and I was less interested in the bright and colorful one. #ReleaseTheAyerCut #RestoreTheSnyderVerse

[@anmael3544]

I would like to see the Ayer cut! The 2016 version was a disappointment. It would be nice to see what it should have actually been before the studio mucked with it...

[@blocknessmonster18]

This episode had such great writing to it!

[@RictusHolloweye]

I really enjoyed the darker approach in Man Of Steel and BvS. As far as I'm concerned Warner Bros made a big mistake trying to emulate the success of Marvel... because audiences already had the Marvel movies if that's what they were in the mood for.

[@StraightedgeEmoBoy]

Willing to admit I may be wrong here but I think Leto only said he sent a lot of that stuff because he thought the stories were funny. After awhile he back tracked and said most of it wasn't true or wasn't 100% true. I believe he said the condoms were not used for example.

[@benw4409]

Even if an Ayer Cut exists unless it fixes the problem of why a team of people with mostly no powers are being sent to fight a magical being that literally has unlimited power it'll still end up being pretty mediocre. This entire film was just misguided from the start - the new one is the definitive squad, literally "The" squad.

[@motherplayer]

Agreed. That aspect would always stick out like a sore thumb. Unless the Ayer cut mission statement for the squad wasn't "What if Superman ripped off the top of the White House and kidnapped the president", that was still gonna be some sort of deal breaker for the concept.

[@michaelstrong5383]

I think the purpose was to bring in a team who can match the likes of an evil Superman. If that's the case, why is Harley Quinn in the team? All she has is her bat and that's it.

[@sunsetman22]

the new one seems to be doing the same thing and I don't see anyone complaining lmao

[@josephde-haan1074]

@@sunsetman22 I would say the new one is more like the expendables.... Then there is Starro but luckily there was Ratcatcher 2.

[@GracUntoYou]

Matthew 6:33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you./Inspiration+This verse reminds us of the primacy of Heaven and the need for our commitment to finding salvation in the afterlife. Through trying to become more perfect for our Lord in the image of our Savior Jesus Christ, we allow ourselves to become better people here on earth. This is the meaning of righteousness added on to us; for if we allow the example of Christ to inhabit our lives, in readying us for the afterlife, our deeds on earth cannot help but please God more. /Prayer+ Lord God, my eyes are trained upon Your Heaven, striving to become every day more like Your only begotten Son. In this, grant me strength Lord, for I know righteousness, virtue and bliss will follow me wherever I walk in Jesus’ name and light. And it is in prayer Lord, that I ask You to safeguard for me a place within Your Heavenly Kingdom, for I know my body may fail, as quick as all tomorrows -but Your paradise lives on, burning bright in the hearts of angels. Amen.

[@michaelstrong5383]

I owe Batman v Superman an apology for being too harsh on it. It still had its problems, but at least it tried to be comprehensible unlike this visual depiction of gibberish. With the exception of Will Smith and Margot Robbie, I didn't even care that much about all the other characters and the villain was so forgettable. I haven't seen James Gunn's film yet, but there's no way he could make a worse Suicide Squad film than this.

[@anthonymartensen3164]

Batman v. Superman is kind of incomprehensible too, at least Luthor's plan is

[@michaelstrong5383]

@@anthonymartensen3164 True, but I remember Luthor in the movie, unlike.....whoever the villain in this is.

[@Everan614]

Ultimate cut?

[@bagoftrix]

I didn’t see the theatrical cut and unaware of the difference, saw the extended version. And loved it, didn’t get the harsh criticism it got. But then I found out what was left out originally, yeah that def. could f up a movie alright. I also never got the criticism Man of Steel got.

[@ReservoirPunk]

Youre kidding, right? When did BvS try to be comprehensible? That movie was an incoherent mess.

[@claudetheruler]

I loved joker. Was a fresh new take from the same old stuff. He was so hip hop I loved it. Wish there was more of him.

[@adolfogarzachaires394]

basically it's the same story as justice league they were afraid the movie was too dark, and their fear turned into a worse fear being a box office low hit and bad reviews

[@shainewhite2781]

I was just watching the New Suicide Squad and it's pretty impressive and hilarious!! Couldn't stop laughing!!

[@MenaCourtadeProductions]

Yes it was great wish Gunn and Snyder could join forces some how.

[@ΑΡΙΣΤΟΤΕΛΗΣΛΑΧΑΝΟΠΟΥΛΟΣ]

@@MenaCourtadeProductions They already have in the beginning of their careers

[@tylerphillips6523]

@@MenaCourtadeProductions Technically the new suicide squad movie was produced by Snyder so they did team up on the new one.

[@marvelanddcfan5029]

@@tylerphillips6523 it wasnt produced by him He just got credited for it

[@jacobdominguez7808]

I saw The Suicide Squad last night and I absolutely loved it. It’s a shame that the first film wasn’t nearly as good as the 2nd. It’s unfortunately not even a contest.

[@chrisgreig98]

The thing is though, without the mess behind the scenes on the first film, we probably wouldn't have gotten Gunn's version. If WB had just allowed Ayer's darker, R-Rated version, then there probably wouldn't have been so much backlash. One of the biggest criticisms was that it should've been R-Rated, so they gave us just that. I genuinely feel for Ayer since it seems like he and Gunn had fairly similar ideas with a difference in tone, but they denied him before granting permission to Gunn.

[@Sly88Frye]

When it comes to the dceu out of all the films I've seen the only one that I could say I thought was actually bad was suicide squad. I liked Batman v Superman although I'm much preferred the Ultimate edition for sure, but I like the mall. I still haven't seen birds of prey and I haven't seen the new the suicide squad, but yes the theatrical release of suicide squad we got in 2016 I didn't like very much. Like most people I noticed that joker was just parbally there.

[@Axolotl_Mischief]

Birds of Prey was not good. Paper-thin, hackneyed premise and shit tons of feminazi bullshit. Hardcore toxic feminist propaganda. Where Wonder Woman was empowering for females without having to constantly degrade men, BoP is 100 'man = bad' idiocy.

[@noahcool2841]

I had a feeling you guys were gonna do a “WTF happened to this movie?” video on this movie, I’ve been anticipating this movie for a very long time, lol!

[@hcurran_]

Lol same

[@dennisdavidov782]

It is sad what happened to this film and Ayer hasn't recovered from it since following up with bad movies like Bright and The Tax Collector.

[@Axolotl_Mischief]

Well the thing about that is Ayer is a shitty director. Have you seen any of his movies? He's terrible.

[@dennisdavidov782]

@@Axolotl_Mischief Street Kings, Harsh Times, End of Watch and Fury are actually really good (and he has written Training Day which is a masterpiece).

[@margarethmichelina5146]

The only thing that's good coming from 2016's Suicide Squad is: Having Margot Robbie as Harley Quinn because I can't imagine anyone else played Harley Quinn besides her

[@neilprice513]

Three DCEU movies, with so much potential, ruined by massive studio interference. Batman Vs Superman, Suicide Squad and the theatrical release of Justice League. It took Marvel 5 movies of set up before The Avengers, but Warner Media rushed out their DCEU in just 3 films (with far more to set up) Those three movies could have been split into at least 6 just to flesh out a shared universe.

[@barbiquearea]

The story was all over the place. It lacked coherence and much of it didn't make sense. Also they introduced the character twice, once with licensed songs at the start and then to give us their backstories. Not a good sign. I will say that the one good thing that came out of it is the fact that we got an awesome modern take on Harley Quinn played fantastically by Margot Robbie.

[@davekennedy6315]

Yeah the soundtrack was very poorly integrated, just a completely random collection of granted, some great songs. A bit like someone had hit random with songs cutting in and out all over the place. A shame as you could see that there was a good film in there somewhere.

[@Lifesizemortal]

Hunt down the fan edit "Suicide Squad: Special Edition" its so much better than the normal version

[@davekennedy6315]

@@Lifesizemortal i'll have to keep an eye out for it. I can see that if handled better it could have been a decent film as it certainly had a talented cast and decent acting. I'm glad to see that Gunns sequel/reboot sounds like its finally been handled correctly.

[@JamesASharp]

Well, one of the problems with this movie is the CGI. The CGI is awful throughout the 3rd Act of this film. And the final battle was a hot mess.

[@sunsetman22]

reshoots tend to do that to a movie. the horned guy was supposed to be Steppenwolf as seen in the Snyder Cut

[@JamesASharp]

@@sunsetman22 Oh wow! I didn't know that.

[@jolfer1334]

Well I am very happy James Gunn did it right

[@ganjalord42]

LOL that Matt Demon from team america , its always think about that when i hear is name , that was on point

[@matthewnicholas6365]

I've got absolutely no idea what the hell happened and I've seen it 2 or 3 times.

[@xanderharris5814]

I swear, I'm absolutely alone on loving this version of Joker.

[@chistianfritz9146]

WB's BIGGEST downfall was Disney. DC suffered for it.

[@kyfeam]

man i love you guys.. awesome entertainment.. i always click on your vids and thumbs up em.. keep up the excellent work!

[@Kal_El1994]

I'm sorry, but WB's expecting is 2nd movie in a Universe to be a billion dollars was utterly misguided & stupid. Kevin S's reaction to BvS is also completely ill judged. Then trying to adapt a Marvel quipping machine like Deadpool approach into a completely different cinematic universe & tone & style was moronic. Then going behind the directors back to edit a new movie is disgraceful. The whole failure of 2016's Suicide Squad rests entirely on WB's shoulders - for shame. #ReleaseTheAyerCut because the original cut was received so much better than the butchered, musical-mashed-together, re-shot, poor-comedy 'Studio Squad'.

[@sahilsehdev4235]

Absolutely agree bro, the part where they hired a frickin trailer production team for final editing duties on a feature film is extremely unfortunate and really cowardly. WB is definitely entirely to blame. I mean they already interfered with BVS when it released, so this was always going to happen. #releasetheayercut

[@Kal_El1994]

@@sahilsehdev4235 A 100%! They interfered with BvS, Suicide Squad, Justice League & Birds of Prey - it is ridiculous. The original editor for Suicide Squad (2016) was Lee Smith - who edited The Dark Knight - and they went with a trailer editing company....the sheer level of disrespect from WB's is astonishing.

[@HectorTorresgallery_google]

WB mistake was not call Bruce Timm as executive producer.

[@julianseals4840]

Great video mate

[@markbarthel9835]

Unpopular opinion: Jared Leto's Joker is terrific. He's intelligent, driven, unpredictably psychotic and prone to murder, and still in love (in his own twisted way) with Harley Quinn. He runs a successful criminal enterprise, and clearly has both wealth and power and commands fear driven respect by all he encounters. Joker, should have more tightly written into the script into a more pivotal antagonistic role (see also, the animated DC film "Assault on Arkham") and provided a narrative through line. WB, the studio, is ass. They wrecked this movie in the same way they wrecked JL.

[@narutobroken]

Found Jared Letos alt

[@catmomof2261]

Funny that they wanted Elba first, because if they went with him initially his character could have been in both movies instead of using two characters with similar stories (great shot, daughter issues).

[@marlonclark1896]

yeah that is very funny

[@SimonAshworthWood]

I enjoyed Suicide Squad and I’m curious to watch the Ayer’s cut, too, which I suspect I’ll enjoy even more.

[@shotmasta]

Thanks to youtube algorithm I found this channel. And really enjoy it, keep up the good job

[@hughhugh7988]

Joker's damaged tattoo has a backstory in the original? So sad that people didn't see Ayer's Cut and then make the damaged tattoo a joke

[@UnchartedMedia]

I'm not sure we'll ever get the full story of what happened to this movie or if we'll ever get an Ayer Cut, however I'm not so sure that his cut would be as drastic an improvement as the Snyder Cut was. Just looking at his other recent work and hearing bits and pieces of what was cut, I'm not so sure Ayer's original cut would have been anything that special either

[@rayromano6249]

Probably right and after wb losing money on Snyder cut they definitely won't bother with this. After watching that first dark trailer this was my most anticipated and most disappointed film of all time

[@Lazrael32]

@@rayromano6249 you are probably right but it would be way cheaper to do an ayer cut as everything he wanted to film was already filmed.

[@kazinadbiralamadit6905]

@@Lazrael32 you just can't dump that on streaming Snyder filmed the necessary scenes but still shot more because he understood that WB was never going to work with him ever again, so he went all out with his JL & used the extra money given to him. Just because movie is shot doesn't mean you can edit it into a movie a lot has to go into it.

[@Lazrael32]

He shot and cut his version already. It's just not the version everyone saw. I agree more goes into it, but if they want to release his version there is a good chance they still have a copy sitting somewhere. Film companies throw out very little these days just in case they can make money on it.

[@kazinadbiralamadit6905]

@@Lazrael32 look I might believe that his "cut" is good but I simply don't believe his movie is good. Because after Suicide squad he directed 2 other films both if which were shit what is the reason for those ?

[@Brad772006]

Wow, I learned some things from this video. Thanks and very interesting.

[@LIZZIE-lizzie]

This essay the best "insider" review I've seen /heard.

[@brucecrawford4948]

Even though it’s not David Ayer’s cut, I still liked the 2016 film. It’s not great but I liked it.

[@sahilsehdev4235]

I liked it too bro. I could see the problems but i genuinely had a great time in theatres. The cast was perfect and the direction was not offensive or anything. But learning what ayer's cut could've been? I mean its like joss whedon's JL all over again.

[@rubberduck2401]

if you liked SS 2016, wait till you see 2021

[@amy_yoshikawa]

i think people are being too overhyped on The Suicide Squad 2021 (honestly). i did enjoyed too the first one and it wasn't necessarily a bad movie nor great, had great fun theatre experience out of it at the time it was released. Being both great experience SS movies, the TSS 2021 in my opinion is Slightly executed right and finally given freedom to the director Gunn's choice. So that made it better this time. Still overall i enjoyed them both with just The Suicide Squad 2021 a bit better.

[@daves.5589]

The Extended cut was a 7/10 for me #ReleaseTheAyerCut

[@zackakers9855]

"A nipple-suited speed bump..." 😂

[@dunkuzi5695]

very well done video thumbs up keep up

[@alexanderasher3461]

It always sucks when an actor’s ego (Will Smith) can dismantle an entire world.

[@Fearls1]

Smith and Leto are both the fucking worst kinds of people. They act like they don't bleed.

[@Ineedgames]

It's why I'm not looking forward to Black Adam because of Dwayne Johnson.

[@jayfreeman5117]

Will Smith, has an ego?

[@alexanderasher3461]

@@jayfreeman5117 I don’t know if you’re joking or serious. Look up why he refused Matrix and Django Unchained.

[@jayfreeman5117]

@@alexanderasher3461 Im being serious. I get the part about Django, and him wanting to lead the movie, but what about the Matrix? All I saw, was because the way the movie was pitched to him didn’t make any sense.

[@grapeshot]

I feel this movie is okay. I've seen a lot worse. I don't have the hate for that many people do.

[@anthonymartensen3164]

Yeah it's just that the story and character development are lacking.

[@JoBloOriginals]

Agreed

[@baylinersimp787]

Ima be honest, it’s one of my guilty pleasures

[@sunsetman22]

pretty sure that's exactly what WB cut out

[@robswystun2766]

I think a big reason why the DC universe never works is that one of its biggest properties, Batman, only really works in a dark, gritty universe without super powers and all their other big properties have to be in a much goofier universe where superpowers are a thing and there are aliens and what not flying around. The two universes just don't mix well.

[@Tremaine27]

Please please please do The Fourth Kind in light of these alien sightings!

[@memyopinionsche6610]

A great start now to hone in on that story telling.. The SUICIDE SQUAD by James Gunn. Really a great start to undo everything and make a great again..

[@ianfleischer3532]

Beyond the studio interference, which was the main reason the movie came out as it did, the original version would've still been a dissappointment (maybe a lesser mess at that, but still a mess). While Fury is one of my fave war movies, I don't particulary like Ayer's ability as a director; but after hearing about him as a person, it sounds thats just a reflection of who he is - he tries to be a serious " _auteur_ " but really he's an above-average hired gun. Like manipulating actors with personal information? Enabling Jared Leto to do the kind of shit he did? Not to mention, while he does sound frustrated with his post-release comments, look at, for example, Snyder. Who had an even worse experience, in my opinion, and still always talked with respect in social media and when giving snippets of the original cut of JL, he credited his cast and crew instead of just expressing his frustrations. Im not saying Ayer didn't had a right to be angry, but I think its your responsability as a filmmaker to know that a film is only made great by the people in front of as much as behind the camera. Dunno, i just feel his comments come of as petty and pretentious and shows an inability to move on. Like - he got paid, he made the movie, most of the blame was put on the studio so his image wasn't neccesarily affected by it, and now he can do whatever film he wants! Grow up man, you're a director with a long career who has collaborted with some of the biggest stars in hollywood, and you're still young for industry standards. Stop wasting your time, stop making a fool of yourself and let it be.

[@gawaniwhitecrow2731]

Really enjoyed the sillyness of the new one, its great to see DCU doing a deadpool.

[@matthewmcdonald8892]

You should make a video about how mercury rising is actually a die hard movie

[@nikgrid]

Notice the common denominator in this clusterfuck is STUDIO INTERFERENCE by WARNER BROTHERS. WB cut 30 minutes from BvS and started this snowball effect.

[@lutherheggs451]

they didn't just cut 30 minutes from BvS......They cut the 30 minutes and then they rearranged certain scenes so that they didn't make sense or even take place at that point in the movie....People kept crying about the fucking bomb in the wheelchair, because WB cut out all the parts showing the audience the chair was made of lead and it was a trap.

[@nikgrid]

@@lutherheggs451 Not to mention how the TC had the authorities automatically assume Superman had murdered the villagers without showing why! That being they burned the bodies with flamethrowers to look like it was done with heat vision.

[@sethkaicer319]

Joblo showed the suicide squad that life was actually worth living.

[@Dohsoda]

This production seems like a mess, but I'd argue Justice League had the worse production. I'd be down for a new version of Suicide Squad (2016). What's the harm of letting an artist finishing his vision? If it is a better movie, than that will only help your brand's success in all forms of media.

[@OvertheHedge06]

This film was a huge fucking mess and the leaked script of Ayer's script wasn't much better. I, for one, am glad WB is moving on.

[@Jenema2]

Most of the stories of Leto's "gifts" were proven untrue. He sent Margot Robbie CINNAMON BUNS, not a dead rat.

[@JamesASharp]

Right on time.

[@drdarkeny]

Why not just give the footage to Ayer and let him assemble his own cut from that? He can get the DAVE School to use their students to fill in the missing digital effects....

[@Axolotl_Mischief]

Editting can't fix poor directing, ugly af art direction and a bad script, kid. In the end, the dialogue would still be bottom of the barrel garbage, the plot would still be idiotic, and it would look like total and complete 5h1t.

[@kazuhirala]

WB just saw the influx of profits on the Marvel side and wanted that piece of cake. They ruined it due to their heavy interference and got what they got, now the DCEU is in some weird out of control turbine with no direction

[@G0DLIKE92]

DC just doesn’t understand their characters. And they choose directors who don’t. Clearly Nolan and Gunn know what they were doing.

[@SparkyMarkyMark23]

The Extended Version Of Suicide Squad Rulez✊🏻!

[@JP-1990]

1:57 "DON' NOOOO..."

[@Zombiesnyder13]

I really want DARK PHOENIX to have the Snyder Cut treatment

[@gambello1195]

Ohhh this gonna be a ride

[@Noodlemonkey7]

I want the David Cut!!!

[@angelbagel13]

I REALLY want the ayer cut. They already have all the footage, they can simply just add another movie. I hope they listen to us in 2024. I think the ayer cut will be a very dark, perfect for Halloween, or it could just be seen as a darker or to some people; "horror movie". I also would prefer if the Joker was seen as the main villain, because the Enchantress really didn't seem like a good guy, but not enough like a bad guy to be seen as the main villain, it just seemed like a bunch of fighting- no really serious villain. The ayer cut also matches the comics way more, but it is also very unique and original. The current Suicide Squad 1 just seems like a good fighting movie, but there are no details. If you want to buy the extended version, sure you will understand why Harley kept staring at a motorbike in the middle of the road, but most of the movie is unclear.

[@devonsmith4731]

I don’t know why but I feel so sorry for the original suicide squad because it had so much potential to be a good film

[@hrs1414]

This sounds like the most Hollywood thing ever.

[@josephlawson9950]

I really watched this movie in the movie theater with my dad

[@samuelchurch5124]

Tbh the first problem with the DCEU was that they took David Goyer's advice on anything.

[@llelizabeth5081]

Love this channel 🧡🧡

[@JoBloOriginals]

Thank you!!

[@Jesusprayerwarriorbw]

Give us the Dark Squad David Ayers cut!

[@reginaldh2079]

Wow didnt know Leto was that nuts. Delighted Emma Roberts didnt get the role too.

[@israelcruz7708]

There should be a remake of this film like with Justice League.

[@giovannifierros951]

Please Do WTF Happened To Sonic The Hedgehog 2020

[@australianmasterchief]

Suicide squad is underated af

[@nnpietro]

Will you please do a 'WTF happened' with Brian De Palmas Snake Eyes (1998)?

[@Lazrael32]

I would have loved elba as deadshot! Will smith was one of the worst choices. He is great at playing different degrees of will smith. But not a cold blooded bad ass killer.

[@joetowers4804]

Good point. I'd never seen it that way.

[@Lazrael32]

@@joetowers4804 I was a big deadshot fan and i was very sad when i heard he was cast. I was saying even an aged denzel washington would have been better. my personal pick would have been Michael Jay White.

[@marcusmartin5758]

@@Lazrael32 the rock would be perfect deadshot

[@spookrockcity]

Deadshot is white. Why can't black characters actually play black characters?

[@lutherheggs451]

@@spookrockcity why does it concern you so much what color someone playing a comic book character is? There are very few that are a specific race and Deadshot is definitely not one of them......Its hilarious how many toddlers start crying if a cartoon character changes color....Black Panther is literally the only one that couldn't be a different color.

[@crakatoot5480]

Criminals underrated movie. Structurally it's a mess, granted. Still got a ton of good stuff in it

[@leesherman5192]

13:35 Langly, is that you?

[@kimandrews55]

@JoBlo Videos WTF Happened to Forest Whitaker?

[@JohnJackson-mn4ts]

It all comes down to studio interference. Exactly the same reason the theatrical release of Justice League was a train wreck. Judging by the Snyder cut of Justice League (which I have seen and enjoyed), he had pretty much finished principle photography when he had to leave the production due to the death of his daughter. But rather than take what was in the can and edit it into a cohesive and finished movie, the studio hired “Buffy” creator and “Avengers” director Joss Whedon to finish post production, but gave him Carte Blanche to do his own thing with the project, including leaving half the filmed material on the cutting room floor, ordering expensive reshoots and dodgy post production CGI to cover Henry Cavils moustache that he had grown for his role in Mission Impossible - Fallout. As they say, “too many cooks spoils the broth”

[@DrDiscourse]

The biggest mistake they made creating this movie, was casting Will "I want to be center stage" Smith. He fills too much of the movie.

[@DougUnfunny]

F*ck now I want to see Ayer Cut. Just put on HBO MAX WB its not gonna hurt. JUST DO IT! you gave us the Donner cut and Synder Cut of their films just F'ing do it.

[@alienboy1322]

Now I'm ready interesting in seeing Ayer's cut.

[@hunterrousseau3770]

Maybe with enough public outcry we can probably get the soulful drama we never got in 2016 because of WB #ReleaseTheAyerCut