WTF?! LET'S TALK ABOUT DOCTOR DOOM AND RDJ!

[@kyletk7053]

1:35 Stream Start 5:24 Will People Continue Going to Watch “Deadpool & Wolverine”, Help from SDCC 9:25 Replacing Kang with Doctor Doom 14:44 Chat/Superchats 24:28 SDCC Hall H Recap of Captain America: Brave New World 32:25 SDCC Hall H Recap of Thunderbolts 33:18 SDCC Hall H Recap of Fantastic Four 36:40 SDCC Hall H Recap of Russo Bros. Avengers Secret Wars and Avengers Doomsday 41:21 Robert Downey Jr. Cast as Victor Von Doom (How Are They Gonna Pull it Off?) 56:38 Chat/Superchats (Marvel Focused) 1:02:42 Rob (Comics Explained) Joins The Call, Starting off With Robert Downey Jr. as Doctor Doom 1:07:08 Will Robert Downey Jr. be Victor Von Doom? Bringing Hype Back to the MCU 1:16:58 What Doctor Doom Would the Boys Like to See 1:22:17 Why Would Doctor Doom Need Tony Starks Body?/ How Would He Do it 1:37:39 Will Tony Stark Replace Reed Richards in Doctor Doom’s Arc 1:46:15 How Does Fantastic Four Fit into Doctor Doom Casting? 2:04:40 Rob Leaves, Chat/Superchats (Marvel Focused) *MINOR SPOILERS THROUGHOUT STREAM MOSTLY SPECULATIVE*

[@PunkRockRog]

Yo, you da man, man! 🤷‍♂️ 😅

[@JDRusse11]

Not all heroes wear capes 🫡

[@kyletk7053]

Always appreciate the love you guys leave under these

[@jeremysmith9131]

​@kyletk7053 can you pass on that in the reveal of RDJ, he is wearing a ring that is an Arc reactor on his hand... Tony Stark variant clue? Would love to see a video done of this! Nobody else has picked up on it

[@kyletk7053]

@@jeremysmith9131 best place to get Josh to see stuff like this is beginning or end of streams or superchats! If I don’t see you in the next stream I got you🫡

[@ApeMan-atwork]

If they don't use any tracks from MF DOOM for that movie, then I will be sorely disappointed.

[@lordvenjix3757]

Amazing video 👌

[@alvindedner4634]

I think you can still come back to kang after avengers 6 ....even with majors rehired...just push him back after Doom now and put the Easter eggs again in the movies. With the reboot then do Kang as a big bad....or Apocalypse

[@DDuffy143]

Nah fuck that. I’m glad. Hope majors learns his lesson. I’m tired of seeing abusive evil people make millions. RDJ actually deserves it. He’s the ultimate real life character arch. Try to be a role model for kids.. as a teacher, I’m worried about our future. And it’s going to be our fault. Fuck…

[@silver2therescue1]

Some people argue that there hasn't been any buildup for Doom but to be fair, The only "buildup" Thanos had was a cameo in the post credits of Avengers 1 and 2 and Guardians and we know Doom will be in Fantastic Four so this really isn't all that different.

[@npwarr2651]

Good point the only difference was Thanos was built up over six years, even though his appearances were rare. Also, the infinity stones were a wink toward Thanos because everyone knew that’s what it was building towards.

[@TrevorT6]

Why would kang allow the anchor being in the 616 to die? Does the end of time in Loki S1 only happen because iron man died? If he were to never die would the sacred timeline continue to exist? What happens when the sacred timeline ceases to exist? It’s just the void where all timelines end? Would the other timelines anchor beings also have to be dead? Lot of questions.

[@jpbogan_art]

For me, he neeeeds to look and feel so different than Iron Man

[@DDuffy143]

They don’t care. Money first.

[@chesterhardy8103]

IMHO, the decision to show RDJ's face was to get ahead of leeks and speculation.

[@JakeZmak]

And to make hype. Don’t even deny it😂

[@hildy7336]

Honestly I SERIOUSLY don’t think RDJ would take a role if he didn’t think it was a good idea or if thought Marvel was desperate . He definitely wouldn’t do it for the money . I really REALLY believe your Face Off theory which would make complete sense . That would be badass . They would reveal the real doom in Secret Wars

[@johnnyblaze973-p2m]

People said the same thing about Secret Invasion "oh, I don’t think Sam Jackson would’ve taken this role unless it was something special"

[@hildy7336]

@@johnnyblaze973-p2mbut he played the same role ….

[@ShaqTown]

Ant Man 3 really changed everything... Marvel thought they had a hit and they didn't. It hurt Kang image before the Majors issues

[@AndrewAlford330]

It seems to me that MARVEL may be combining Kang and Doom slightly. I think they are pulling from the Young Avengers Iron Lad/Kang reveal with Doom/Iron Man in the MCU. The MCU loves to combine story arcs and change backstories to make better sense in their own continuity (look at Ultron's creation in Avengers 2). Makes TOTAL sense that they would do the same to Doom to make him an immediate threat. We just do not have enough time in 2-3 years to make him a big enough threat using him in a single film or making him the arch nemesis to a new Reed Richards. This ups the stakes for everyone and will lead to an ultimate soft rebooted MCU through the Secret Wars film.

[@user_miike]

the idea of rdj playing a tony that’s possessed by doom and going around different earths to gather resources only tony has access to while the b story is tony in doom’s body on the run from heroes trying to regain his memories

[@user_miike]

is cool as fuck imo

[@bosmoke101]

I'm here for RDJ DOOM! Let's go!!

[@the80sguy80]

The channel you spoke of is... Dr Goon, That was an AWESOME!!! Chat by the way.

[@CharlesDarwintheThird]

Bottom line would have been better without RDJ, sorry, but he is a good actor a great actor but I see him as ironman, now we are expected to see him as a villian as Dr.Doom

[@mikepatton7577]

Another thought, now I'm really curious about the script Waldron wrote! Is that entirely scrapped, or will parts stay, or...

[@Real_Mantis-Man]

Wow! He’s gonna be a dude playing a dude disguised as another dude…

[@fourheadface2797]

Just like Tropic Thunder😂

[@tonymontez2358]

Put up the bat signal, we need time stamp guy 😢

[@andrewgardner769]

He survived the snap with scars and gains powers or something

[@jeffreytrester24]

What comics should I pick up to understand doom?

[@Z.200]

Love the idea of Doom walking around in a dead tony stark body, would make perfect sense for Doom’s suit of armor

[@RedMatik]

It really was a feeling of excitement in the moment.. then I was like wait what… come on seriously. It’s so many great actors who of loved to play Dr Doom who would kill it ! It’s gonna be to hard to unsee RDJ as Ironman . I kinda get why they are doing it however me personally I would rather see someone else play DrDoom

[@smb963]

Please do the dr goon stream on Friday so we can all see it live and u can relax and prepare for it and stuff

[@maxmitchell1162]

Yes

[@shinjiitsu6319]

Doom stealing Tony’s body may be one of the most idiotic ideas I have ever heard. If they do that they will never live it down. Just made him a variant. It’s quite simple, reed and doom can be the variants that very commonly have different faces. We already have John k in marvel multiverse as a reed, his doom could be someone different and Pedro pascal reed can have rdj face its fine his face will probably be burnt anyways

[@PH4N7OM21]

For Josh's Twitter background anyone surprised that it wasn't tropic thunder since there already memeing it

[@DDuffy143]

RDJ is perfect for Doom’s style of being a dick villain though. I could see him meeting Peter and just annihilating him after running up and hugging him not knowing it’s doom. That would be something I could see to shock everyone. Watching Peter die twice… fuck.

[@kirkwood1987]

Nah they can make rdj look different. Look at how they did the penguin in the Batman. Dude looked completely different but they didn't lose any ummfff. That's exactly why you cast someone like rdj a top tier elite level actor, he can play a totally different person from Stark and he can make you belive he is whoever he's playing. That's exactly why you gt rdj. He cam do it. He can even play both Iron man and doom in the same movie I believe. And he'll kill both roles in the same movie bro like there's only a few cats that can pull that off and he's one of them

[@AIRiddleRoom]

We already seen Kang and Loki in different times and universes as different people ... Deadpool too...Dr. Strange too...why is Dr. Doom any different

[@TeegZPDC1037]

What if…doom annihilates the council of kangs with a council of dooms led by RDJ doom, and once in charge he’s betrayed and murdered by one of the minion dooms only for them to remove their mask to reveal…Cilian Murphy…the real mcu doom

[@TeegZPDC1037]

Tell me that wouldn’t slap

[@Redsnowman04]

Dr. Doom little

[@clydethaglyde]

What if the Tony variant that Doom Stark interacts with in Secret Wars is Superior Iron Man aka Tom Cruise?! 🤯

[@chexrnsfica]

But rob and Josh is the dr doom from x-men 97 same as this version played by Robert Downy Jr ? And because of the spider being connected to miles universe so spider from the 99 cartoon have battled a dr doom variant in Spider-Man’s secret wars and this version ti bring Mel’s and the ultimate Marvel universe into battle world with Doctor Strange in the Marvell’s molecule man

[@mikepatton7577]

I'd feel bad for Pedro if he doesn't get a rivalry with DOOM

[@omarjustinsmith2257]

😆

[@chillininthebasement]

People would know it was RDJ as Doom as soon as the credits rolled.

[@DDuffy143]

Hope majors learned his lesson. I’m tired of seeing abusive evil people make millions. RDJ actually deserves it. He’s the ultimate real life character arch. Try to be a role model for kids.. as a teacher, I’m worried about our future. And it’s going to be our fault. Fuck…

[@DDuffy143]

And yeah, agreed… fuck Kang.

[@DDuffy143]

Like.. I thought that’s why we love heroes… So confused with this world.

[@maxmitchell1162]

IH

[@MtZaba]

I’m sorry but I’m still not convinced rdj doom will be THE doom of SW. THEY know that comic book nerds know about doom coming in at the end and ACTUALLY being the real big bad of SW. ask yourself, WHY would they name an entire movie after the guy who is going to essentially be the plot twist at the end of that movie? You hide that character to swoop in unexpectedly and be a surprise. You don’t highlight him, and if you’re gonna highlight him as a villain Doomsday, he can’t be coming in as a plot twist. What I think is the REAL DOOM (a different actor) is behind the scenes, outside of time in the multiverse pulling strings. And for some reason (which we don’t know why yet) he is using dreamwalking OUTSIDE of time and turned this iron man variant into dr doom in that universe. Doesn’t make sense? Well we know that outside of time (tva for example) you can see timelines from a birdseye view so maybe there is a way with magic that doom can dreamwalk decades (in the timeline) but is minutes/hours/days outside of time. This would show power hierarchy that even HE is more knowledgeable than Wanda and dr strange. It’s kinda convoluted but I really don’t know how rdj as doom makes sense lol JOSH it’s just like your option 3 theory but slightly tweaked. Mind wipe is just dreamwalking which is what Wanda did in MOM

[@nickhernandez7688]

I guess we're going to have to see how this goes but I would have chose somebody else

[@antoinefilms_]

He's NUTS to say recasting Kang will carry the same baggage. not finishing his story is weird and RUSHING DOOM is worse.

[@omarjustinsmith2257]

Aaabsolutely

[@mattsmultiverse]

I don’t know, I personally feel like Kang’s story wrapped up nicely in Loki S2, and I don’t think Doom will feel rushed. if you think back, Thanos only appeared in the post-credits of both The Avengers and Age of Ultron, and for around 1 minute in Guardians, yet didn’t feel rushed. Doom will be appearing in F4 with a few other opportunities to appear BEFORE Doomsday (Shang-Chi 2, Doctor Strange 3), and i’m betting Doomsday will center on him the same way Infinity War did with Thanos…

[@fearfaceace1990]

Rob hating on marvel rivals is crazy

[@silver2therescue1]

yeah no Tony variant, only Victor

[@maxmitchell1162]

Max Mitchell

[@sebastiantorrealday7019]

no scrap this kang is super

[@chillininthebasement]

So schweaty, I need 2 towels.

[@dietrich4808]

Do not take kids to see dead pool

[@fusionboydev4062]

I don’t think it’s Kangs fault however that he happened to be in a terrible ant man movie with terrible writing

[@hildy7336]

He absolutely cannot be Victor Von Doom. He has to be a variant of Tony Stark that becomes Doom

[@deadloq1882]

Just like Fox, Jennifer Lawrenced the Xmen movies now Disney is gonna Robert Downey the fuck out of the MCU. So now its about the actor being the focal point instead of the characters being the star. I hate it

[@maxmitchell1162]

Yes

[@maxmitchell1162]

Max Mitchell