Former fire chief says he saw no clothes in creek during the initial search |Day 13I DELPHI DEBRIEF

[@RETIREDBADBOY55]

If there's ever been a trial in history, that should have been transparent to the public, IT WAS THIS EMBRRASSING CIRCUS!!!!

[@SteveJohnson-uu9ew]

Garenteed Richard Aleen loves his wife to never have murdered 2 children.

[@TheAmtwhite]

I disagree. No need for trial by the public. The jurors are there for a reason. Let them do their difficult job.

[@esthershelton6672]

Agree 👍

[@carmichael3594]

That's why it's not on tv because the Court proceedings are a shame

[@PixelatedLlama]

@@TheAmtwhite Exactly. People are impatient, nosy, and don't realize that they are effectively asking to setup the conditions for witch trial.

[@littlegreen5845]

RA didn’t say “I tell them whatever they want to know.” He said “I’ll say whatever they want me to say.”

[@mariac.9727]

Who writes a report about a missing video in an investigation and doesn't put a date on it? You're either doing it with intent to obscure stuff (like your own failure in some way) or you're totally incompetent and should be fired immediately.

[@unapologeticallyauthentic]

Crooked cop.

[@nikkimosley1]

@@unapologeticallyauthentic Right

[@dudemorris7769]

Brady violation from beginning to end with this judge seated.

[@WarrenTaylor-dc8cr]

A report into a missing video ,in a double Murder case ,that has the date missing,😅. Missing interviews too, Very forgetful down in Delphi LE 😂. Wow.

[@jennifermaddy2442]

​@@unapologeticallyauthenticcertainly sounds like it, very unprofessional

[@ngedon]

Misquote: not "I'll tell them whatever they want to know." Actually said "I'll tell them whatever they want me to say." BIG DIFFERENCE!

[@shannonhart9374]

Why did he think saying this would change his prison circumstances? And not totally convict him?

[@ASMRRattler]

@@shannonhart9374 I think he was saying that he would plead guilty and skip a trial to protect his family. He would be in prison for the rest of his life but it would be over for his family

[@VIEWER-c5x]

​@@shannonhart9374 by agreeing to take the fall, the mistreatment might cease

[@Carla011]

I’m so glad you pointed this out! Huge difference

[@Just-wiggling-thru-life]

@@shannonhart9374Because perhaps the torture of solitary would at least stop. Pretty strong motivator to “say anything they want him to”. Idk how ANYONE can look past that. Honestly even to the degree of whether~~Guilty or not~~it’s straight up torture and cruel and unusual punishment and he’s NOT even been PROVEN GIULTY YET.

[@LoomingMess]

He didn't say " I'll tell them what ever they want to know", he said "I'll tell them what ever they want me to say".. quite a difference and then confessions followed

[@casey0117]

Exactly!

[@NastazyaPhylipovnaTchornaya]

"Confessions " or rants are about 6 months later.

[@nvr4getnnvr4give]

People are also forgetting that the Odonist officers were threatening him with hurting his family if he "did not confess"....mainly because the defense is unable to present that evidence. Which they should be allowed to, especially when it was introduced by the state....she still refuses to allow them in. If there is a Judge who deserves nothing more than to be thrown in jail it is Gull herself. According to her google reviews she has been doing this for years. All case she precides over should be reopened and investigated.

[@joy2theworld261]

If he was being threatened to confess, you don't think he would have mentioned that in his phone calls?????

[@EstherGrace2.0]

@@nvr4getnnvr4giveI know THATS right!!!!!! That judge is so biased it’s pitiful and they all thinks it’s cute to behave like that, that group of le, prosecutors, detectives (Mull.),prison guards, the judge (Gull), are like a group (of 2 yr olds)at a daycare only daycare babies wouldn’t be so incompetent, corrupt, stupid, biased and just blatantly fabricating THE WHOLE CONCEPT OF TRIAL AND LAW. I am horrified by each of them 😮 they’ve done dirty the poor victims & have managed to literally destroy & terrorize & abuse the suspect from jump. It’s a miracle they got an indictment as they have the same evidence involving another suspect that lives right there & another potential photo image of another potential suspect (or poi) on a tree cam that they didn’t even give in discovery to the defense & that’s just some of the nonsense. I’ve seen REASONABLE DOUBT about 5 times. I’m not kidding the whole bunch may have obstructing justice charges slapped up against their inflated heads before the cock crows 3 times.

[@Crittermomma]

The state owned and state funded prison tapes belong to the citizens of this state therefore transparency should be provided

[@gillypiexo]

Exactly, I disapprove of their narrative here.

[@michaeltreacy6356]

And should be time/date stamped.

[@czexkei6644]

Can we just stop and give the Jury huge kudos. They’re asking really good questions and they have given hints that there are some smart ppl on it. They’re keeping an open mind and taking notes. They’re a good example of why letting jurors ask questions is important and a good thing.

[@eagrinstead1]

All jurors in the United States should be able to ask questions of every witness. It's unreasonable to expect a jury to sit mute the duration of a trial and have no way to address their confusion, clarity, or need for more comprehensive details related to witness testimony. Imagine in some court rooms questions aren't allowed, and neither audio/video nor written transcripts of witness testimony can be reviewed prior to our during jury deliberation.

[@Just-wiggling-thru-life]

@@eagrinstead1And some aren’t even allowed to take notes either. It’s absolutely mind blowing 🤯 to me to think of being a juror with legit nothing but listening and trying to remember ALL of the things of a what~~4-6 week trial. I’ve always leaned towards no questions but I have absolutely 💯 % changed my position on jurors asking questions. This jury is on it and these questions are massively educated. I’m so impressed. Thank Lord someone is handling this well because my word this is a sh!tshow at best. 😞 Also ashamed and embarrassed to say so~~but~~local here so ya sigh 😞

[@eagrinstead1]

@@Just-wiggling-thru-life went to Purdue and grew up in the state

[@mistyjackson1745]

Because there is stipulation why they can't just do that .They know it too !

[@Just-wiggling-thru-life]

@@eagrinstead1 Normally I’d say that’s awesome 😞 but instead I’ll say 👋 neighbor and congrats on Purdue …and also I’m sorry…I imagine you have to feel at least somewhat similar about our state and it’s terrible handling of all of this. Regardless thinking of you and all here trying to make sense of it all. Such a mess. Idk what to believe anymore except this states handling is just so messed up. Ugh it breaks my dang heart for so so so many reasons.

[@Debs440606]

That judge is a disgrace, from a lawyer in the U.K. No way would a judge be allowed to be so blatantly biased here. That is not the way to achieve justice for these girls or their families.

[@patrickpatton7123]

Punishing somebody but not the right person. Is an old-fashioned witch hunt and it's not Justice. I believe you are correct

[@KattEyl]

How do you know the judge is being biased? Are you present in the courtroom?

[@Debs440606]

@ virtually yes, I’m following a lawyer who is there and who is extremely unbiased. From the facts they’ve given, my conclusion is, not only is the judge biased, she’s openly biased, which is even more worrying.

[@TraceyMariexx]

Not true.. Our judges were disgustingly bias when they locked people up for hurty words on social media this summer.

[@KattEyl]

@@Debs440606Can you give examples?

[@HEB-kb6ol]

Because of the secrecy you have assume not guilty. Brad Weber is interesting in his testimony, he says he clocked out of Subaru at 2:01, and made it home by 2:28-2:30…..for anyone who’s worked at Subaru going from the clock out area to your car and getting through traffic coming in and going out takes several minutes, not to mention it takes 29 minutes to get from SIA to his home. Meaning he would have had to drive 30 mph over the speed limit to get there around that time period, in his 2000 Ford Ecoline mind you. Not to mention he’s associated with people that have the last name “Westfall” not to mention Subaru offers carhartt subaru navy blue jackets to workers, not to mention he’s along the same height and has the same hair as bridge guy, and he has a missing toe which would have caused the limp in his walk. Considering they got his story a year ago, I wonder how far Subaru can go back to confirm clock out times ? And I also wonder if maybe some of his associates family with the last name Westfall “local odinists” in the area got the girls waited on him.

[@mariac.9727]

Interesting.

[@dory9742]

Very interesting! Thank you

[@shannonhart9374]

Odinism is to protect the “white” race. Doesn’t make sense

[@showerpwner]

This case was already bungled by LE and railroaded by arm chair sleuths such as yourself. Just stop and let the evidence talk at this point. No one is on trial but RA and Weber has a punch in and out time alibi.

[@Evebear]

maybe you have a calling for detective/investigative journalism too.. nice analysis

[@bartmanxoxo]

This isn’t a FAIR trial !

[@davidclayton3831]

Judge gull would not allow portions of video to be seen. Video that Richard Allen WAS being abused

[@bunnyluver2176]

She’s a terrible, biased judge.

[@KattEyl]

What video? Could you be more explicit?

[@OneCatCrafting]

@@KattEylas I understand it there’s footage of RA in jail naked and strapped in a chair with a spit hood

[@michaeltreacy6356]

​@@KattEyl Video of him during incarceration

[@cherylemaybury9967]

The fact that no trace of the girl’s was found on the 13th and no clothes in the creek was seen on the 13th does not mean that they were killed elsewhere. It just indicates that the girls weren’t there that afternoon. They may have been chloroformed and taken somewhere until the search was called off. They were then brought back to the area in the early hours of the 14th, Abby being killed while being held down or unconscious and Libby being attacked and stumbling around before collapsing and dying. Then being moved to where she was found. Since they were not found until about 22 hours after being abducted it’s unlikely that the clothes Abby was wearing would be still wet but they were. This case has more holes in it than Swiss cheese. Remember how Libby’s phone pinged off the tower at 4:33 am and downloaded all the text messages from the previous afternoon. That shows her phone had been turned off and was turned back on at 4:33 am. Now let that sink in.

[@garnetandgold07]

Very good points!

[@jennapitts8373]

They were in that guys white van on his property. RA saw a white van because there is always a white van everywhere. There are two on my block right now!

[@linda-louiseanthony1979]

Which would mean that they must've still been taken somewhere fairly close by?

[@skychaser5591]

The phone never moved again after 2:32 and stayed on until at least 4:34 a.m the next day. So you think they took the girls, leave the phone there, and then bring them back and place Abby to cover that phone...... ?

[@refinnej5302]

​@@jennapitts8373not only are white vans quite common (a lot of work vehicles are white vans), but some generations associate kidnapped children with white vans. Growing up, it was a common stereotypr that kidnappers drove white vans and it has trickled down through generations. There are even memes about white vans and free candy.

[@CourtLee333]

I was a PO in a jail in western Pa and couldn’t even imagine how this man was treated especially with such a large profile case and being in jail in the SAME town as it took place in. Have u ever heard of “dry trays” it’s when they pretend that they feed you on camera, but the cherry has nothing on it. But if questioned about this, it can easily be lied about. There’s ALOT that went on towards this man I know this because it was done in our jail. One of the big reason why I quit.

[@56dh]

True. A family of mine was a CO & quit because of the corruption. It's unbelievable what goes on in these prisons.

[@dory9742]

Thank you for sharing the truth! Not many people have the integrity it takes to go against the grain (so to speak). Thank you

[@MotherOfVincentLePew]

🤯...

[@carolray9737]

I know that this whole town is corrupt..!!! It makes me sick!!!

[@Volkswagenitalia.]

Saw the same at a juvenile detention center in western pa. I can only assume we probably worked for the same county

[@vhnf1]

Guilty or innocent, he isn’t being given a fair trial because of this incompetent judge.

[@bunnyluver2176]

The judge is incredibly biased. If the police, even after RA was arrested, said that there could be two ppl, the judge should definitely allow the Odin theory. I agree with the LEOs…I think that there were at least ppl too. I just don’t believe RA was one of them.

[@KattEyl]

There was a hearing about letting the theory of odinism come in for the defense, but they did such a poor job of presenting it the judge had no other option but to exclude it

[@smalltowngirlbigcityheart3724]

I hope it ends in a mistrial. Not for the families but I’m sure they want true justice too!! How is Justice served if the wrong guy is paying for someone else’s crimes?

[@nikkimosley1]

This is so true

[@nikkimosley1]

@@smalltowngirlbigcityheart3724Amen

[@emilylitchko9414]

This judge is so far up the prosecutions ass. This is the most unfair trial I’ve ever seen.

[@birdsintheburbs7414]

Same

[@YellowRubberDuckie]

You have to have more evidence than sticks and interviews by police to bring in an alternate theory. You can't just make crap up for a defense.

[@LilSouthernPatriot1776]

@@YellowRubberDuckiethey didn’t make shit up- they’re are very active cults in that town and alot of secrets. This is widely known by those who live there.

[@emilylitchko9414]

@@YellowRubberDuckie imo you should be able to put on whatever defense you want. I don’t see how you can have a “presumption of innocence” without it.

[@CountessKitten]

Well you didn't watch Karen Reads trial then, huh?

[@shirleycolopy4322]

I stopped watching all the other reports. This station is the best. That lawyer is so good. She really explains things well.

[@Debs440606]

You need to watch Lawyer Lee, she’s there and she’s excellent

[@silram7742]

She's brilliant!

[@esmeraldawetterwachs8655]

​@@Debs440606and Andrea Burkhard

[@OkkenBomm]

I watch this channel, plus Andrea Burkhard’s daily summaries. As someone who’s never lived in the US (from Norway 🇳🇴), I am so glad our judges aren’t elected, but hired and they do not get to decide if they’re performing to standards. Also, anyone charged in a criminal case has the right to free legal representation and they may choose any lawyer they want as long as the lawyer is willing to do the job on standard fees. Plus If convicted in a case with a max sentence more than 6 years, you dill be granted full new trial in appeals court.

[@SmilingCap-qn7dq]

I agree. She's very good.

[@katietian9629]

The judge and the prosecutors are really starting to piss me off. Just let us see the evidence! Give us everything and stop hiding omg…..I just want the damn truth

[@GibboFrank]

You are not in the court then yiu don't need to see

[@tishwitch]

​@@GibboFrankthe purpose of trials is justice for the public. Whoever told you that trials should be private led you astray.

[@WillBlindYouWithLight]

It's been a week we have no answers we will never get them unless somebody comes forward and there have been plenty of people to do that since the beginning but they're all dead now.

[@robinlackey5159]

​@@GibboFrankDon't need to see? Wtaf? Do you just blindly believe everything you see and hear on TV then? I'm baffled by your response. The public has EVERY right to see what's going on with our judicial system. 🤡🤡🤡🤡

[@RAri-rc3to]

@robinlackey5159 You should go to the trial and exercise your right.

[@nexx456]

if police interviewed people related to this cult then defense should have the right to bring that up. This is an issue for an appeal. No wonder judge did not want cameras in the court room.

[@loris3595]

They have no evidence of a cult. The girls were under some brush. They are making stuff up.

[@thesaint5619]

@@nexx456 there is zero evidence on any odin crap get over it

[@davidcopus1341]

Well…. The officer investigating the group was recently arrested for falsifying dcs reports on 10 plus families. So all the info he had that was leaked online is now thrown out. His name was Todd Click…. The group was in part of Delphi and Rushville Indiana. Some of the news broadcast of those kids are still online. So the evidence is there…. Just not worth a shit now since the investigating officer is now in jail. But funny thing is… when Todd was arrested and the info leaked… all of a sudden evidence and video interviews are now missing…

[@BlackStump172]

@@thesaint5619That is your opinion . I don’t know , but I do know that you are very rude and very ignorant.

[@YellowRubberDuckie]

@nexx456 I have been reading through the supposed evidence that links the cult to the murders. The only thing it seems to elude to is a bitter ex-wife and murders that took place on top of what could be stick figures from said cult. Or Allen trying to cover his ass. There is no solid evidence. There is no DNA, which if the #3 cult guy had spit on her like someone said he told them he did, wouldn't they have found his DNA? The evidence is shaky at best. I am still reading though. If I find the smoking gun, I will be back.

[@johnharris8486]

Best two news presenters in this sad story. I can tell they have thoughts but are keeping it to themselves’ and just saying what they witnessed. Well done . Prayers for those young victims.

[@january575]

The bias of the judge is infuriating this man is not getting a fair trial

[@crystalgibson51188]

I call BS!

[@Beautiful_Days9249]

Neither did Steven Avery and his Nephew in Wisconsin. Crooked police, DA, etc. and in this case Mayor. The mayor should have been looked into but they all covered it up.

[@MarkLada]

It's an embarrassment to the entire state of Indiana the way this case has been handled from the beginning, and this judge is only making it worse..

[@carmichael3594]

When the judge is allowing people to lie on the stand is unbelievable. Weather Allen is guilty or not your right it's not fair in the court room

[@snippetsordinarylife]

@@Beautiful_Days9249 I thought that trial was fair, but this one absolutely is not.

[@scobraw47711]

The prosecution hasn’t proven their case.

[@OneCatCrafting]

I really want closure for these families but I’m really on the fence about RA

[@ericmilburn9841]

This is why nobody ever steps forward with information about a crime.

[@glitterprincess5672]

👏👏👏👏👏

[@staceyeder322]

Truth

[@bunnyluver2176]

I’m sure RA and his family wish they hadn’t tried to do the right thing and step forward to help.

[@jordanscherer7661]

Exactly! “Maybe” this guy did it…maybe…”if you THINK the defendant “PROBABLY”did it then you must acquit” Burden of proof is on the state. All I see is bias after bias after violation of civil rights after restriction of exculpatory evidence…WOW this case is nightmarish atrocity. Those confessions are HIGHLY tainted!!!

[@beez991]

😂😂😂😂😂😂 you are crazy just like Rick. Oh no wait sorry Rick said, "I'm not crazy, I'm just acting crazy". That's right I forgot.

[@GoddessFirstClass2882]

So the judge is NOT ALLOWING THE DEFENSE to do their job. How is that NOT blocking the defendant's civil rights???

[@jennysurfer6516]

Bc a judge has the right to block nonsense. Grow up and learn the legal system. Perps don't get to just throw out unconfirmed nonsense as a defense.

[@bartholomewesperanza3442]

@@jennysurfer6516they absolutely can?? You can use anything defending yourself. The burden of proof isn’t on the defense

[@jennysurfer6516]

@ actually you can't.😅

[@Maggiemay72493]

@@jennysurfer6516sounds like your dumb ass is the one that needs to grow up and learn the legal system

[@jdr9419]

Blocking conspiracy bs.

[@terripebsworth9623]

What Richard Allen said to his wife on the prison phone call after 6 months of being tortured in solitary confinement was, "I'll say anything they want me to say," which is quite different from 'I tell them anything they want to hear.' In the interest of justice, the judge should allow the defense to put forth any theory or witnesses the defense wants, ESPECIALLY a critical witness from the FBI who did the original interview with the guy with the van who said he had been out checking ATM machines most of the afternoon and returned home well after the murders would have happened. How can the judge refuse to let the witness be deposed via zoom if he can't be there in person? The FBI agent is a critical witness for the defense. It is the job of the JURY to weigh all theories and evidence put forth by both sides and decide where the truth lies, NOT the judge. And btw, the FBI analysed the scene with "bridge guy" using landmarks, the distance between the railroad ties and other data points and determined that "bridge guy" is between 5'8' and 6 ft tall. Allen is 5'5". This trial smells bad and the judge is clearly biased against the defence. WHY? And how do the police in one tiny town of 3,000 people LOSE dozens of key files and interviews from the single most important case they have EVER handled? How is that even possible? Something is VERY VERY fishy here.

[@garnetandgold07]

I looked at BW fb back when this Odin theory first came out and it was terrifying. He has since removed all the damning pics and vids. Hope defense grabbed them before he took them down.

[@KattEyl]

There is absolutely NO evidence that Richard Allen was tortured. If you’re going to make statements like that where’s the evidence to back it up?

[@KattEyl]

Where’s the evidence that the judge is biased?

[@VIEWER-c5x]

​@@KattEylall of her rulings

[@Mewsette1]

Or the 14 times before the cops ever spoke to him?

[@cattycorner8]

This has to be the sloppiest, messiest trial I have ever seen. I do not envy the jury. I don't know how they will ever come to a consensus on Allen's guilt.

[@YellowRubberDuckie]

You didn't watch the OJ trial, did you?

[@PellyjellyMom]

Seems like they are all a mess. Now that trials are televised we now see all the mistakes and down right mismanagement in our judicial system and policing; it’s ridiculous.

[@snippetsordinarylife]

@@PellyjellyMom There are some very good trials and very fair judges. But it certainly does highlight the rot too.

[@BlackStump172]

@@PellyjellyMomTragic and not ridiculous. 😊

[@Digitalgems9000]

imagine defending a child killer. you people are nuts lol

[@aspencrest]

It's kind of amazing that a judge can prevent the defense from putting on a defense

[@OK4Now2]

Agree

[@tigersharkdiver]

How is that? No cameras and audio helps the defense.

[@tfargo7818]

@@tigersharkdiverno the jusge has barred the defense from naming a ton of people related to the case and also not allowing anything connected to rituals

[@LilSouthernPatriot1776]

They did the same thing to trump- wasn’t allowed to defend himself or say when prosecution was incorrect.

[@LilSouthernPatriot1776]

@@tfargo7818wtf and people say this is the land of the free that’s messed up more like the land of the elites

[@TangledTrueCrime]

HE DIDNT SAY ILL TELL THEM WHAT THEY WANT TO KNOW!!!!!! He said I’ll tell them whatever they want me to SAAAAYYYYY

[@christytobin3256]

This!!

[@snippetsordinarylife]

Such a big difference. The latter is saying I will make a false confession if that will make this stop. Interesting how the witness "remembered" the first and the audio proved he said the second.

[@dory9742]

Also convenient the audio is what the state is fighting to keep out!

[@Suzanne2909]

Please pay attention! Huge difference, the man is innocent.

[@tonystevenson26]

BIG difference

[@chat2tricia]

The best coverage on this case! Thank you for your hard work on this case!

[@Sylvia-hu6cv]

How can a judge rule ahead of a trial what defense is allowed and what not? Ruling....like making up the rules as they go.... No fair play.

[@lds251]

I think they should move this trial somewhere else! Strange town, strange law enforcement, strange atty's........

[@LilSouthernPatriot1776]

They did the same shit to trump

[@CountessKitten]

That's what happens in every trial. Pretrial motions and such.

[@Mewsette1]

It's the law! What're you making up?

[@aspencrest]

The judge seems to be the railroad engineer

[@LilSouthernPatriot1776]

More like the captain of the ship

[@MarkLada]

There's something going on.. It sure looks like somebody is trying to cover something up for someone.. It's embarrassing for the entire state of Indiana..

[@snippetsordinarylife]

@@LilSouthernPatriot1776 More like the captain of a ship called "Corruption".

[@midwestmusic1909]

She's being blackmailed. This case goes waaaay deeper than anyone could ever imagine.

[@LilSouthernPatriot1776]

@ I was saying the captain of a ship bc the courts are under maritime law but your way works too. Both speak the truth ;)

[@IsaiahKeiser]

There’s a lot of stuff wrong with the mainstream media today, but this kinda stuff is what you guys were made for and it shows. Truly impartial reporting. So hard to find with this case. I understand the apprehension to let cameras in the courts, but after seeing this mess, I think there should’ve been far more transparency

[@BlackStump172]

@@IsaiahKeiser Truth !

[@refinnej5302]

It would be nice if they quoted accurately though.

[@IsaiahKeiser]

@@refinnej5302 seems like it’s pretty difficult to actually hear what’s being said. I’m just happy they’re relatively impartial

[@KattEyl]

I’ve heard other accounts from people in the courtroom. These two are not reporting accurately.

[@MichealKrebs]

Richard is getting railroaded. There is sketchy things going on here. He's not getting a fair trial. Judge needs to go. I want the true killers caught for these young ladies. Rip Libby and Abby

[@Maggiemay72493]

He sure is getting railroaded. It’s like a damn witch hunt

[@truecrimefangirlchannel]

Delphi and Carroll county should be embarrassed by this judge’s obvious bias

[@truecrimefangirlchannel]

Will the taxpayers enjoy another couple million dollars for an appeal if needed and a thorough investigation into the judge not following actual law? This will go on for decades no matter the verdict.

[@leannemo7382]

⁠@@truecrimefangirlchannel Ugh. That’s terrible. Which law did she not follow?

[@bunnyluver2176]

@@truecrimefangirlchannelIf he’s found guilty there will likely be a retrial because of the judge’s poor calls.

[@bunnyluver2176]

@@leannemo7382Not laws but decisions she’s made that have been very biased against the defense.

[@KattEyl]

Really? What are those decisions?

[@peachymeechie1844]

For some reason that judge has been out to hang Richard Allen from the very start! Idk if it's for $, or someone has something to blackmail her with, or if it's something else. She's been out for blood from trying to say his attorney's decided they didn't wanna work for Richard Allen. When they never said that, and had to basically beg and plead to continue to be his counsel! Or the fact that she allowed cameras in until the lawyers proved she was a liar, and then she won't allow cameras in! The whole system seems to want to charge anyone just to get this crime "solved", and placed in a box on a shelf, and never let the light of day touch it again!! Don't get me wrong, if Richard Allen did do this, then he should punished to the fullest extent of the law! For some reason i just feel like they're railroading this guy! The authorities and the judge need to seriously need to be investigated after this! Something stinks to high heavens! Something smells fishy! Usually if something smells fishy, it's usually because it is!!! I just hope justice is served, and to the right person because anyway you put it! Those baby girl's didn't deserve anything that happened to them. They're the innocents in all of this, and they need to have their justice! I pray they truly get it!

[@snippetsordinarylife]

The defense had to go to the Supreme Court to get reinstated. She just wouldn't. Imagine the resentment and anger someone like her felt over them going over her head. She was already biased before she fired them. Her bias is a lot worse now and on full display every single day.

[@SpeakLife406]

Agreed and guilty or innocent he deserves a fair trial so we can be 100% sure we have the right guy. Even if he’s guilty give him a fair trial and allow the trial to ply out and let his guilt show.

[@gracie1598]

​@@SpeakLife406👍Well said. Thank you.

[@gracie1598]

Exactly why our Constitution and Civil Liberties reflect what they do: to ensure the right/correct individual is proven guilty, eliminating misappropriation, bias, prejudice foul play, and the bullshit on display in this trial. Justice is not served if the real perpetrator remains Free. The public, girls' families, Abby, and Libby need the truth. This only happens when our court and legal system follow procedure and reflect honesty/integrity. With No DNA evidence at the scene or on the items removed from his home, waiting 5 years to arrest, deplorable unconstitutional conditions he was subjected to in order to coerce a confession; ostensibly because there was no evidence linking him to this crime. The State of Indiana is disgraced by this trial, and the saddest end result is: No One will have peace of mind regardless of the outcome because of the corruption.

[@Theblahblahbblaher]

Defense: can I use the bathroom. Judge: Denied How many times has the judge denied whatever the defense is asking.

[@DuffMan.]

This judge isn't even trying to cover up how corrupt she is anymore. Is she untouchable? This case would be funny if it wasn't so heartbreakingly devoid of anything resembling justice

[@bunnyluver2176]

If the stakes weren’t so high. This is a death penalty case isn’t it? Yes, I agree the judge is biased at best, corrupt at worst. Probably a mixture of the two.

[@VIEWER-c5x]

Is she protecting The Killers because she's their friend or because she's afraid

[@DuffMan.]

@VIEWER-c5x hmm...thats a good point too.

[@Yuyayayu872]

They are trying to cover up how incompetent the police was. They are too embarrassed to be honest about hire badly they handled this investigation.

[@MartianManHunter_]

For those hanging their hat on RA’s gun “Oberg testified it is standard operating procedure to both dry cycle and live fire weapons to attain tool marking evidence on a sample bullet. Rozzi complained that Oberg had not provided the defense team with full reports of her examinations and results. “Did she issue a report after the dry-cycled rounds did not match the recovered rounds?” asked Tompkins. “Did she tell the State and create a report that had to be given to the defense, ‘Hey, your theory does not match the data that I’ve collected,’ and then get a request to do additional testing, or did she do this additional testing which is live fire testing on her own independently with no request to develop a new protocol?” Special Judge Fran Gull turned down a defense request for the testimony of a metallurgist to explain to jurors the significance of the scratches on the so-called “Mystery Bullet” and how there could be an alternative explanation compared to the State’s expert findings. The metallurgist is not a firearms analyst, ruled the judge. “It certainly strips them of the ability of someone other than just the defense on cross-exposing the weakness in the protocol,” said Tompkins. “The metallurgist is not there to testify about firearms ballistics. The metallurgist is there to testify about the properties in the metal in the casing that was tested versus the properties of the metal in the casing that was dry cycled. That is not ballistics. That is metallurgy.” While Oberg concluded her testimony, the defense will have an opportunity to call its expert witness to counter the State’s claim that its crime scene bullet matches Allen’s gun.”

[@GrammyTammy13]

Especially since Ron Logan was in the area with the exact same Weapon

[@mistyjackson1745]

The ultimate ? Is Was Richard Allen there that day ?,Wearing the same Clothes ,On the Bridge & seen by witnesses in the same Clothes ,There was no other Man (Monster) on the bridge that day, Because if there was where is that other guy dressed in the same clothes ? All the rest on the bridge were Women and Children that time of the Crime ,Only guys testifying was Cops and others involved as witnesses that wasn't on the bridge only lived close by and they were all gone time of the Murders! I also ask why did RA not see the Bridge guy and say he seen another guy on the bridge if he isn't the bridge guy himself? He established he was there and the same time the Murders happened ,His car was spotted heading to the Bridge in a Video as well the Girls got him on Video ,So if something happened to them,The Video may tell who it was . His Gun also matching the Cycle of the Bullet was found there and was still fresh looking ,Not worn and tattered by being an old one that had been lying there in the same spot over time the Weather and Debris would have told it had been there a long time !There is so much that also shows He was there and the time frame matches up and the Bullet matched up ,The Clothes match up and he admits to a lot of things matching the killer would know . He admits being interrupted by the Van guy driving the Van home from him coming home and he then left quickly and left behind the phone of the one Girl and the Bullet Cycled .He fled not wanting anyone to see anything and to see him but someone did going back to his car off the Trail ,Bloody and Muddy and while Two lil Girls innocent& lying Dead half dressed and not dressed suffered at the hands of a Monster who preyed on them for God knows how long online ,He Stalked them and watched their Pages online to track them there that day and I believe that KK used fake pics of AS to lure these Girls for other Men involved as well ,This is all tied together and the FBI knows it as well ,They already have AS locked up ,Ron Logan is gone from COVID after the Girls Died that day (karma)maybe or maybe he was involved or not there was no proof really but RA is the one that did the killing .The rest were Accomplices in a Sexual online ring ,Stalking Lil Girls to try and Rape & he knew he had to kill them that day ,So they couldn't talk and what he didn't know was Technology got him on Video and Audio!

[@MartianManHunter_]

@@mistyjackson1745 you’re ignoring a lot of facts. 1, that unfired bullet left at the scene doesn’t match other unfired bullets that were cycled through RA’s gun. 2, zero physical evidence ties him to the bloody crime scene. 3, the eye witness testimony was so inconsistent that the sheriff admitted on the stand that none of the eye witness descriptions match RA. Defense Attorney Brad Rozzi: "Betsy Blair saw a man who was boyish and beautiful with brown poofy hair in his 20s or 30s.... Her description does not match the description of Richard Allen." • Carroll Co. Sheriff Tony Liggett: "But neither do the three girls who saw him on the trail." • Rozzi: "Exactly. Right."

[@mistyjackson1745]

@@MartianManHunter_ I didn't ignore anything ,I been following this since the day these innocent 2Girls were murdered and I know one thing ,Hes the only guy that everything points to &he admits he was there and they have evidence he was there and its him on the Girls video and Audio ,He also admits it prior to being arrested , he was there ,So why wouldn't he have seen the Girls on the Bridge! When he said he was looking@ Fish that was the same time frame &He was the only guy on the Bridge within that time frame Bec nobody described anyone else but the Bridge guys clothes. That is the only person on the Girls Video and Audio is RA !

[@MartianManHunter_]

@ there were a lot of people that “admitted” they were there at the same time. Doesn’t make you guilty. Also the police cleared him initially as well. And in all the interviews before being jailed he denied doing it. It was until he was pumped full of drugs, put solitary and then told details of the crime by his “therapist” did he admit to anything. Brad Weber was there at the same time and even has a sig sauer .40 cal. The test on his gun was inconclusive meaning they couldn’t clear his gun.

[@Punnoosia]

23:55 Everything about Brad Weber, his white van, his address (across the creek at the end of the private drive), his changing story, and his Sig Sauer cannot be excluded? Are you kidding me? Anything for a conviction, though... right?

[@judykennedy4271]

Where and when did a Brad Weber come into this? It’s weird i don’t remember his name coming up before.

[@austin33785]

Weber is also a jew

[@moonchild7542]

When did Brad Weber change his story? The crap the defense tried saying about the ATM is just that, crap. He never said that!! He also cannot be the guy in Libby's video. Brad works at Subaru and didn't not clock out till 2:02. It's on CCTV. It's at least 25 minute drive to his parents house which would put him there past the 2:07 time stamp on Libby's phone. The bullet found couldn't be excluded from his gun but was a perfect match to Richard Allen's gun. That's a big difference.

[@tatiray8525]

@@Punnoosia it sounded like they had just as much evidence for him as they had for their current suspect. But wait Brad Weber only lived across from where these poor girls were found 🙄. BUT That’s not enough evidence or cause to investigate and arrest him of course…

[@CountessKitten]

​@@moonchild7542absolutely

[@flok.8317]

Yes, another outstanding job by the two reporters, the legal analyst, and the anchor. Outstanding team.

[@snippetsordinarylife]

He developed serious mental illness and grave disability whilst kept in solitary confinement for 13 months and we are supposed to believe his confessions??? Why are we not outraged that a human being continued to be treated this way? He told his wife he would say anything LE wanted to make the harassment stop. That is NOT the start of his confession. That is the start of admitting his willingness to false confessions. The sad thing is that by now there are so many rulings by this judge that would result in an appeal being granted. Unfortunately I doubt Richard Allen will remain alive that long. Whilst the murderer/s is still out there, the torture and death of a very likely innocent man will be on their hands.

[@56dh]

Well said!

[@TheAmtwhite]

Doesn’t explain why he confessed to his psychiatrist. With details only killer could know.

[@michaelmiller836]

He had already been given his discovery when he admitted to that. And on top of that, his psychiatrist was a big fan of this case so what’s to say that she didn’t feed him information to try to force a confession due to his mental state.

[@snippetsordinarylife]

@@TheAmtwhite He confessed during this time of solitary confinement. Try and imagine living totally alone for 13 months in those conditions. I dare you. The details that only the murderer would know: 1) A box cutter was used - the ME never mentioned a box cutter until a few months ago, AFTER Allen's confession. 2) The person who owns a white van only came forward after the confession and changed his previous timeline to suit Allen's confession It seems to me that the facts were changed to suit Allen's confession. The big problem is that most people judge on the few summaries they listen to, which does not include the details as per above. It is a very convenient way to sway public opinion in a certain way. If this judge believed in transparency, we would all actually know the little details that would change perceptions. This channel is doing an excellent job, but it is still a summary. Listen carefully to their lawyer's analysis. She has her finger on the pulse. My hope is that with the jury present and hearing all the details, that justice will prevail in spite of this extremely biased judge. I'm sure you know she fired the defense team on one of the few days she allowed the press in and that they had to go to the Supreme Court and got reinstated over her wishes? You think an already unfair judge took that lightly?

[@staceyg1265]

​@@michaelmiller836I'm surprised she was allowed to be called as a witness after what came out about her.

[@Ms.BeaHavenOXO]

7:58 What other time period would the photos be from. Also, Richard Allen never should have been in PRISON - Only convicted criminals reside there and Allen hadn't had his day in court..

[@crystalgibson51188]

Considering the fact that it was for his own well being, otherwise he may not be here to stand trial. Probably best for him! RICHARD ALLEN SHOULD ROT IN HELL FOR WHAT HE DID!

[@Ms.BeaHavenOXO]

@@crystalgibson51188 And that's what makes you different from critical thinkers.

[@claudettes9697]

We all look forward to this every evening. Thank you! 🙏🏻

[@cinnabun715]

Even us Coloradans following this case! Justice for Abby and Libby

[@ajnathan9490]

​@@cinnabun715 The whole world is watching this travesty of justice!

[@cinnabun715]

@@ajnathan9490it’s such a bizarre case and I hope there is justice

[@IndyandJazmin]

​@@cinnabun715 It's becoming quite apparent that there are people from all across this beautiful globe, who are following this case and are all praying for justice for these two innocent little girls, and for all of their loved ones as well.

[@Still-Sitting]

⁠@@ajnathan9490the guilty party is about to be read a conviction. It’s easy to criticize in hindsight from KZbin. I’m guessing you aren’t very sharp, and want to look clever by attacking the state

[@Surfnyolly]

Amazing coverage! Straight and to the point! And honest, Katie is incredible!

[@ediesaffron3593]

This judge is *SO* incredibly sketchy smh 😤

[@ZaZa-ib6un]

Thank you all! You guys are doing an amazing job....I've been following the case ever since and one of the most unbiased journalism works is yours!

[@56dh]

Agree

[@MichellePM]

I agree as well! They are extremely professional and unbiased, it’s refreshing to see real journalism.

[@cynthiakluck-johnson5895]

Except for the bias

[@adcoe9164]

This case stinks! This man has been treated inhumanely. And he has not been given a fair trial.😒

[@Maggiemay72493]

Agreed!!!

[@HiroForever]

Two things true at the same time. He’s guilty and they did a bad job

[@Shurmash]

​@@HiroForeverHe's not the man. Out of 50,000 tips no one pointed to Richard Allen. There was only one tip that mentioned Richard Allen's name, when he said that he was there himself. I believe he was trying to be a good citizen and help the investigation and unfortunately that screwed him over. And let's keep in mind that in the police files he was CLEARED of any wrongdoing. There are several men from that area who have very disturbing criminal records and involving children, especially Keegan Kline. There is a mountain of evidence pointing at other people being involved. And that's why that crooked judge wouldn't allow that evidence in, there's no way you could dismiss it in court. Everyone in the court would immediately know that Allan is not the right person. The FBI and his former attorney believes that Odinism is involved and I 100% agree.

[@deb5562]

Absolutely agree

[@deb5562]

​@@HiroForevernot guilty.

[@lennyholland908]

He should have never been in state prison he should have been in the county jail

[@moisesmontecillo7570]

Or tbh maybe even got bail since there was almost nothing tying to him to the murder and I could be wrong but I don't think he had prior charges so to say he's some violent guy. Did you hear about the guy being so violent that they let him stay home on a attempted murder charge. If that guy got to stay home maybe RA should have too

[@itsjustme800]

He was in Carroll and White county jails before Westville, the country jails didn't have the facilities to guarantee his safety

[@snippetsordinarylife]

Well, he couldn't systematically be broken down to the point of serious mental health problems in solitary confinement, could he? They couldn't break him down to the point of false confessions in jail, could they? I don't think I have ever been as outraged about any case as in this. This form of justice is worse than that in 3rd world countries. Everyone should be outraged.

[@snippetsordinarylife]

@@moisesmontecillo7570 This is one of the baffling things. S*xual predators, especially towards young ones, don't suddenly start with anything this violent at his age. That's another huge red flag that shows his innocence to me..

[@Kelly-wf5ie]

@@itsjustme800Y not swap KK with RA since he already pleaded GUILTY

[@hadisdashtestani]

why does this even matter which date he was he showing these behaviors and the confessions? The overall condition that he was in had been so bad and watching this condition would be helpful and led to confessions! I do not understand these people if they want to reveal the truth or just convict someone?

[@GibboFrank]

Because the defense played up in the same way

[@KyleTMcN]

They just want to convict someone

[@44LillPuffin]

The fact is, he could have been stabbed to death if they hadn't kept him alone. There would have been an uproar if he had been allowed to be in a gen pop situation and ended up harmed. All the weight loss and being crazy, those things are advised all the time by their defence lawyers. Change appearance for trial and have an insanity to fall back on. That's defence 101, they even teach them what to do for line ups, lose or gain weight, cut the hair and change the facial hair, wear or take off glasses. Sometimes even dying hair.. these people's jobs, how they feed their family and pay their bills is to convince people their client is not guilty. They don't need to tell the truth, they need a good story that people like. An underdog, a conspiracy, a satanic cult and drama.

[@johnmeleleu1813]

It matters for rules of evidence.

[@lorieicher6547]

⁠omg you are spot on here! You said exactly what I was thinking. Look at this guys past. He’s a pervert and molester so this is right up his alley!! He did it! Come on… “bridge guy video looks just like HIM!” Period. Game over! Kudos to brave Libby

[@dmcdmtsdccec4]

Thank you, WTHR, for taking the time to provide thorough reporting on this trial!! Your coverage is the best out there!

[@CariMachet]

Lies

[@BlackStump172]

Excellent and so unbiased . Loving this .coverage .

[@silram7742]

Short and to the point

[@esmeraldawetterwachs8655]

I think Andrea Burkhard's daily report is much more detailed

[@cynthiakluck-johnson5895]

Their coverage comes across at quite biased

[@Sup3rB4dVideos]

why wouldnt the prison give the timestamp????

[@JM-uu6ch]

Seems they want to make everything hard work for this man's defense

[@cualsyx]

What good is a conviction if it gets overturned on appeal? Did they violate Richard Allen's civil rights by keeping him in solitary confinement in a prison for 13 months? And if they did, is that grounds to overturn any conviction?

[@mandystewart6737]

You're right about the possible appeal. The judge better not mess this up. And I think if he was w other prisoners, he'd not be here to stand trial.

[@snippetsordinarylife]

Unfortunately I do not think RA will survive long enough for his appeal. Then his tormentors can move forward to someone else.

[@gracie1598]

Or Justice Not being served because the wrong individual is convicted and the responsible perpetrator remains free. This case is a disgrace to the Legal System our Constitution and the State of Indiana.

[@idemonic.]

If they didn't have him in solitary, he would've been killed.....

[@cualsyx]

@@idemonic. they have solitary in county jails.

[@acemannw]

I watch a couple other KZbinrs that try to cover this and nobody covers it as well as wthr. Thank you for all the hard work on this

[@heatherbowlan1961]

Your right , they stretch it out , what I don’t like is they’re swaying their subscribers with their own thoughts , two different channels there everyday , both looking at the trial with different thoughts on it , it really mixed up I just want the jury to do the right job so there will be justice for Libby and Abby! 😊

[@BlackStump172]

@@heatherbowlan1961Some are very good in detail but have become too emotionally involved . I want to hear the good and bad for both sides . His treatment in prison was shocking , which is very shady with respect to his confessions .

[@shawnaking111]

😂

[@heatherbowlan1961]

@ Oh I see the bias coming from many different channels , it seems like to many emotions are in the mind instead of logic ! The need to keep an open mind, , THERES no bias on this channel, we’ll if they have their own thoughts their keeping them to self, great poker face , THATS good !

[@Intentionally_obtuse]

The state: “”RA says to his wife, if this gets too much for you, I’ll tell them whatever they want to know”” MISQUOTE Allen said “if this gets too much for you, tell them I’ll say whatever they want me to say.” I can’t help you if you don’t understand the difference between those 2 quotes.

[@ML-jz7ly]

thank you for all you do. You guys are doing an amazing job

[@ShyLow4]

Let the defense do their job !!! The judge keeps shutting them down !

[@CharlesWhite-j4f]

Because they are over-reaching and trying to confuse the jury with absurd and unreasonable stories. There are limits as to what stories a defence can propose. You can't just invent b/s and ask the jury to consider it.

[@smalltowngirlbigcityheart3724]

Judge is up to something-

[@CoastalCarolina000]

@@CharlesWhite-j4f The defense isn’t “just inventing” things to tell the jury. There is evidence to back up what they would like to present to the jury. What is clear is that the judge is doing her best to prevent the public from seeing the truth.

[@CharlesWhite-j4f]

@@CoastalCarolina000 The "Odinist" stuff was sheer nonsense and invention. The judge had to shut that down, she acted entirely properly. These are the type of unprincipled and extremist defence lawyers she is up against, I suspect this is the reason for all the strange administrative arrangements we have seen in this courtroom. She has to ensure that such fantastical stories do not serve to illegitimately confuse the jury and muddy the waters. That story was clearly inspired by the "Odinist" patches worn by a couple of the prison guards, entirely innocent cultural symbols, which were firstly defined as somehow sinister and then elaborated on to provide a wild fairy tale. The defence is allowed to sow "reasonable doubt" into the minds of the jury but even that has to be on a reasoable basis. You can't propose that Martians did it, or else the whole justice system would collapse while such oulandish possibilities were endlessly debated and enlarged.

[@idontcare1481]

I’ve always had a fear of being incriminated for a serious crime and not being able to prove my innocence. If this gentleman is innocent, I feel horrible for this man. I pray that Justice is done.

[@CountessKitten]

No prayers for the murdered young teenage girls? Hmm🤔🙄👌

[@ablair33556]

@@CountessKittenno shit , don’t even … but the fact of the matter is they have already passed.. He is still here and about to take the wrap for something that he did not do , it’s gonna leave a child killer out there roaming free. I’m sure we’re all praying for justice. Really ???

[@libertyhawkins875]

@@CountessKittenI think we all want justice for these girls. !! But that means the guilty person paying for the crime. I haven’t made my mind up one way or the other as far as this man’s guilt.

[@snippetsordinarylife]

@@CountessKitten Unfortunately it is pretty clear that the murderer is very likely still out there walking free.

[@texasterri2002]

​@CountessKitten putting an innocent person in prison is NOT JUSTICE for anyone. Abby & Libby deserve TRUE JUSTICE. 🙏

[@Amanda-fv5ju]

Why didn’t the ISC remove Judge Gull? She is not trying to hide her bias :( What happens to a judge who fails to be fair and impartial?

[@adolfhotler7431]

🎉PROMOTION TO HIGHER COURT 🎉

[@ankakloka6724]

If he is not guilty they ruin his life and his family life 😢

[@VIEWER-c5x]

The only reasonable conclusion you can draw is that the judge is trying to protect those who actually killed those girls either because they are her friends or because they have threatened her

[@meganbessenbacher7107]

Exactly! Why else would she be so hell bent on robbing Abby and Libby of justice like this!

[@mylifefornick]

Amazing coverage, they are clearly working tirelessly to relay this to us. Hope they have some nice coffee and a comfortable bed.

[@lestersloan2758]

The lead investigator was quick to nabb Mr Allen because it was an election year 😮 Guess who's sheriff now.... 🤔

[@lorieicher6547]

You guys do the best summary of the witnesses and the all around day in court each day! Very simple easy to understand yet vivid enough to get a picture of what was going on in the courtroom. I have been tuning in and spreading the word. Keep up the great work you guys!! Hang in there and Stay strong

[@kristygaboury8519]

I can’t thank you guys enough!!! THE ONE OUTLET that is unbiased on this man and that states FACTS over opinions. THANK YOU!!!!

[@Itallia135]

Andrea Burkhart is also one who is seeing all the nonsense from the judge. She’s an attorney as well

[@AllTheCritters]

This whole thing is messed up. Bad rulings from judge, horrific treatment of prisoner, evidence lost and on and on. Looks like a frame job.

[@56dh]

True, and add to that, poor chain of custody with the bullet.

[@gracie1598]

You left out No Evidence. No DNA at the crime scene with all that blood or on the items removed from Richard Allen's home.

[@idahardy4052]

Everyone is watching this judge, this LE, and wondering if you can do that to a guy who had no evidence against him then you can do it to anyone.

[@GibboFrank]

Nah just yiunajd the drama queers

[@WillBlindYouWithLight]

Yup Happens every day. All the time. Unfortunately. If there is a power above Leo, they can do and get by with anything

[@lesleyhughes3174]

🤔🙄🥴😵🧐​@@GibboFrank

[@tigersharkdiver]

Lol no evidence except 61+ confessions, same time, same place, same clothes, same .40cal bullet... you are delusional.

[@joecascade5105]

​@@WillBlindYouWithLightcorrupt judges in new jersey

[@astrokidd4279]

The more I hear the more I think they’ve arrested the wrong guy. This man is clearly being railroaded.

[@Maggiemay72493]

Totally agree with you

[@Angelia359]

He admits to being there at tje same exact time as the girls and was wearing the exact outfit in the picture they took. He also confessed to the murders. What else do you need to be convinced he did it?

[@deb5562]

Agreed

[@deb5562]

Not guilty

[@deb5562]

Not a bullet, a casing

[@Carrie-j2x]

I'm watching this from Ontario, Canada 🇨🇦. In my opinion, this is the absolute best coverage for this trial. Justice for these two sweet young girls.

[@texasterri2002]

Yes, Justice for Abby & Libby 🙏 Sadly, this is not justice. 😢

[@DeniseTerrell-oy5tm]

So a person with no DNA at the crime scene is put into prison for starters… then a person confesses to putting horns on one victim and spitting on her.. Odin is practiced in the prison so much so one guard has it tattooed on his face.. but the judge doesn’t want any of that brought up?? Got it.. Delphi sure does smell! 🤦‍♀️🤬🤯

[@voges1001]

Well there weren’t horns or spit DNA so…

[@DeniseTerrell-oy5tm]

@@voges1001 it was sticks for horns.. they did not even test the hair in her hand so why would they DNA test her face? Make it make sense…

[@mandystewart6737]

And they kill children? Really?

[@voges1001]

@@DeniseTerrell-oy5tm the sticks for horns thing is a stretch by the defense. That’s true about the hair tho.

[@karenq2073]

@@voges1001well DNA could have been on those sticks/ branches that weren’t tested for 13 days later smells like a cover up to me also the FBI was dismiss from this case after they said it could be a ritual killing

[@user-di8hm2jl2u]

By the way, these two reporters have been the absolute best reporting on this trial

[@kriskringle5287]

I am beginning to think that he is being fucked over by the court.!

[@birdiereads]

Thank you for the thorough and above all ethical coverage. Tuning in from Europe daily.

[@tracyomalley9470]

To be honest i don't think they have the person who killed the girl's they should be looking closer at the people who knew both girl's personally

[@jenniferunderwood951]

Sloppy work, not noting the dates of missing documentation. The jury is being deprived of seeing evidence of RAs state of mind when making confessions. I don’t like the judge.

[@midwestmusic1909]

She's pathetic & an embarrassment to the entire state.

[@bunnyluver2176]

The judge denying the FBI agent to be called as a witness is another biased move by the judge. She’s terrible

[@tonystevenson26]

A travesty

[@Harnesk36]

Thank you all for a good and impartial summary of today's trial. Must once again praise Karie Jackson who is brilliant in her way of explaining and describing both the defense and the state's way of presenting their arguments.

[@hissallymyjack4684]

How is the judge legally able to get away with this?

[@lonewolfheart1697]

Those confessions need context about Richard Allen's state of mind. Let the defence put that forward... good grief, this trial is not playing fair. He's clearly not mentally well for a start. "I think I did it" is NOT a true confession. He's clearly saying these things because of the conditions of his incarceration and his mental health.

[@rilenixx]

What is the chance of the couple under the bridge being Kelsi and her boyfriend Chase? Chase fits the sketch perfectly. Kelsi's hair is found around Libby's fingers. The song Kelsi says they were listening to on the way to the trail was called Heathens by 21 pilots. Read those lyrics.

[@jonecliptic]

What a mess of a case, why so much incompetence?

[@pjjohnson8195]

Amazing coverage guys. Superb! Thank you so much!!!

[@lindahoefakker3568]

Amazing work. Thank you so much

[@diyuquag3748]

The defense was smart in getting Weber irritable- why would he get that way he's only a witness right?

[@AnotherJennifer-a183]

The reports sound like it wasn't even a super confrontatio al question that upset him...

[@milibibi2152]

How can you write a report without dates?

[@karenq2073]

The judge wants to make sure it’s not in that 13 month time frame

[@snowgurl21]

This man ra isn’t getting a fair trial & this jury I hope has enough sense to not convict due to a incompetent judge & LE & way too much reasonable doubt!!

[@sweetsu3s]

Didn't see clothes in the creek during a disorganized search in the middle of the night while not looking for clothes in the creek? OK.

[@jensingalong]

You KNOW Katie Jackson Lyndsey is talking to her fam after each day appalled at this judge. haha. She is being so cautious but also is nailing it when it comes to every single thing Gull is doing to prevent the defense from having a defense. I'm going to write my AG in Indiana. I know it won't do anything, but it is all I can do. That and pray of course! ;)

[@Eddie-tk1jk]

PROBABLY BROKE HIS WILL AND MENTAL CONDITION PROBABLY CAUSED HIM TO FALSELY CONFESS

[@Mewsette1]

He confessed over 14 times before he was arrested

[@georgiesimmons5924]

Even a legal expert is like it's confusing why the judge wouldn't allow that video in unbelievable what's going on in this corrupt trial

[@sandy6168]

There were several people around the girls during the murders. They didn’t know. How did searchers miss her? They were so close.

[@karinogrisek9532]

Excellent coverage.

[@perriebradley7850]

Richard Allen I know you will probably see this after this is ended. We are so sorry you had to go through this to further someone's career. I'm so glad to watch your defense attorney still get the truth out there even though they are limited in so many ways. We see it!!!!!

[@tauresattauresa7137]

You see it. Not everyome agrees with you.

[@perriebradley7850]

@tauresattauresa7137 that's their opinion but those jurors aren't stupid, why don't you start asking the police why they had male DNA on both of Libby's wrists but they didn't test it.

[@perriebradley7850]

@tauresattauresa7137 don't you think after that many years they should ve tested the DNA, there is enough reasonable doubt if he's found guilty it will change on appeal. This man didn't do this alone, and I think it makes a lot more sense with the sketches and the fact they were supposed meet that profile that time that day that place, and now we have proof someone was there after Richard Allen was long gone messing around with a dead girl's phone, even though they can't confirm they were dead at that time. Two different sketches guess who they match, kegan Kline and his father, perfectly. Now that makes more sense. Than some strange man handled two teenage girls while he slit each one of these throats, Libby multiple times up and sideways. Abby completely different killer, you can tell with the amount of violence. Someone held Abby's mouth while the other killed Libby. Two different murder styles completely

[@perriebradley7850]

@tauresattauresa7137 study criminal homicide minds you will figure out there was at least two maybe three. They wouldn't have set up that meet unless they had a plan

[@NeveahGrace420]

This damn judge just handed the defense its appeal by not allowing camera's. And dont get me started on using these poor little girls and crime scene photos as a reason. Ive watched many trials and even been present to some and at no time did we the people see those photos

[@thomasupton2664]

Anyone is allowed in the courtroom, and thus, allowed to see the photos.

[@NeveahGrace420]

@thomasupton2664 what I'm saying is that I know everyone is allowed but not all the time do the people in the benches see graphic photos they shown on a computer or monitor to the jury

[@YellowRubberDuckie]

​@NeveahGrace420 you WANT to see the crime scene photos? What kind of person WANTS to see that?

[@NeveahGrace420]

@YellowRubberDuckie I never said I wanted to see the photos. Go back and read again

[@NeveahGrace420]

@MetalMiIIs how the hell do you know that I'm not. Grow up and stop reading into shit nobody said.

[@Banks040]

Another night of great solid coverage on this case. Thank you for all your hard work and dedication to this trial . It doesn’t go unnoticed 👏🏼👏🏼

[@Onepinkflamingo]

You folks are doing a great job. That being said, idk if he's guilty or not but this case has been screwed up by the police, CSI & the prosecution from day 1. Now I'm just waiting for the judge to give him appellate grounds.

[@mamarealtalk5850]

What a coincidence that the dates of the, possibly exculpatory evidence, were lost. 🙄

[@maraujo600]

I think the confession helped the defense in a way. He sounded unstable, deeply mentally ill, and him confessing sounded as much like he was asking if he was guilty as stating he was guilty. They were completely unreliable. And, the psychiatrist who visited him in jail was more a fan girl or someone with an obsession. She had no credibility

[@heatherbowlan1961]

Thank you I’ve been following your channel all the time , love the way you two exsplain day to day trial details ! Your Great 👍 fr. Canada ❤🎉😊

[@hissallymyjack4684]

Isn't there someone that can take action against the judge and have her removed or something for not given Richard Allen a fair trial?

[@wendyelsesser5354]

The judge is not letting the defense.Put on a defense she's stopping them at every road

[@gracie1598]

Take any individual mistreat or subject them to the lights constantly turned on no darkness for sleep, isolation (13 months!!) they will say anything in order to Stop the pain. Law enforcement did this because they had No evidence DNA or otherwise in order to link him to this crime. Corruption.

[@Mewsette1]

He confessed before the cops even picked him up. Think

[@gracie1598]

@Mewsette1 What are you referencing with that reply? On the phone after incarceration to his wife stated prior to Trial and during trial.

[@ednamarlowe1527]

Judge Gall should be removed from thr bench and disbarred.