“america would just rebuild the navy” that’s a damn fine explanation of the industry the US had during WW2
@somebody1263 жыл бұрын
It really is absolutely wild how the enormity of this conflict single handedly forged the US’ military and economic leadership position in the world for decades to come
@Juliuscaesar03153 жыл бұрын
Man you broke my stuff, here's five more
@SVT40AK473 жыл бұрын
But our blue collar industry is nearly gone in today’s world, could we do it again once everyone uses up all the technological gizmos to fight our video game war?
@connorhutchison35363 жыл бұрын
@@SVT40AK47 the technological gizmos won't first fight the war, they shall make the tools to produce the war.
@57thorns3 жыл бұрын
Sweden, being neutral and thus not bombed, did benefit from the same effect. We had a working industry, and we could continue to supply Europe with steel, now to build up society rather than create weapons, but for us, the effect was a large influx of money that funded the wellfare state. The US not only managed to avoid being bombed, but they also had to built up their industry to support the war effort, and the manpower losses were, compared to all other nations involved in the war (perhaps with the exception of Australia and Canada that never had war on their mainlands), miniscule.
@zenith-boi3 жыл бұрын
Imagine the US propaganda against Britain. "We fought them once, we'll fight them again!" Edit: I get that the US fought Britain multiple times. I'm just too lazy to fix it.
@uberfeel3 жыл бұрын
More like "Our founding fathers fought them for our freedom, now it's our duty to defend our freedom."
@adamgriffin81973 жыл бұрын
British propaganda “let’s burn Washington again”
@timexkills653 жыл бұрын
Instead they were like, your queen is our grandmother we will fight for her
@uberfeel3 жыл бұрын
@@timexkills65 the Queen was 16 at that time.
@asillariya6013 жыл бұрын
Actually twice
@dood92552 жыл бұрын
"Australia is far away" is the best way to describe Australia in any situation
@1963Austria2 жыл бұрын
and with Japan they really assisted the USA.
@ericschmidt14162 жыл бұрын
@Brn stls Australia really helped the US? smh Australia would have folded under the Rising Sun quickly if not for the US
@muzza19672 жыл бұрын
I think he forgot that when the war with Japan was going badly that the US based a lot of the pacific fleet out of Australia.
@hubertbarnes20272 жыл бұрын
Ausralia was bombed a lot during WW by Japan.
@danawhitesneckfat17062 жыл бұрын
Australia would be a Japanese providence if America didn't get involved.
@OurLordandSaviorSigmar Жыл бұрын
Lmao Hitler really pulled an UNO reverse card on Stalin. "Here's the suitcase bomb, enjoy."
@Mjcubed1511 ай бұрын
@OurLordandSaviorSigmar bro that part fr scared me it was so sudden
@albertjester2 жыл бұрын
I like how in both timelines, Japan attacks America and it's allies go "what the hell were you thinking!?"
@zvallid2 жыл бұрын
pearl harbour was the fatal error
@ADDISON63682 жыл бұрын
pretty much remember quote we im affared we have just awk a sleeping beast... yep pretty sum itt you pissed us off and get the atom bomb spacking
@Juliuscaesar03152 жыл бұрын
@@zvallid yo Japan why are you going towards haiwaii
@accurategamer70852 жыл бұрын
Japan: peace was never an option. I just want to FUCKING DIE.
@valentinfranco45282 жыл бұрын
@@zvallid as one japanese naval admiral stated "I fear we have awoken a sleeping giant"
@TheTruthIsGonnaHurt3 жыл бұрын
*“Canada invades Seattle”* After 24 hours Canada attempts to give Seattle back to the US. The US refuses and demands Canada take Seattle. Canada rejects the demand and flees. US Forces give chase and demand Canada take Seattle. This would spark the battle known as the No Refunds War.
@mackhomie63 жыл бұрын
thanks, Overly Conservative Guy.
@christophermacintyre58903 жыл бұрын
Can they exchange it for Detroit, at leeast?
@okamichi_factory3 жыл бұрын
No take back war lool
@mackhomie63 жыл бұрын
Seattle is home of Boeing, Amazon, Microsoft, Expedia, Nintendo, tmobile, Starbucks, and lots more. it is home to the Cascade mountain ranges, numerous lakes, the most educated people in the country, seven military bases, one of the nation's top universities in the U.W., one of the west coast's biggest maritime ports and airports and the highest minimum wage in the country -- but yeah, the U.S. can't wait to get rid of it.
@mackhomie63 жыл бұрын
@@maybealexa5216 ...what?
@robertharris12772 жыл бұрын
Switzerland throughout the war: - If I don't move, nobody can see me.
@marcusraidien15432 жыл бұрын
Switzerland held everybody's money. So nobody robbed the bank.
@eligebrown89982 жыл бұрын
Lol
@sincerelysarcastic14942 жыл бұрын
switzerland: Ive mastered the ability of standing so incredibly still, that I've become invisible to the eye.
@RobTzu2 жыл бұрын
Thats how I got through 12 years in the Army.
@mikehawkhovers98722 жыл бұрын
But for real though the Swiss literally did go underground or into the mountains(bunkers) lol
@PixelG_ Жыл бұрын
"USA lost thousands of boats to torpedoes" "The British also loses thousands of boats to torpedoes and dive bombers" " *Germany loses 2 U-boats* "
@zvallid Жыл бұрын
germans are smarter
@craigoliver8712 Жыл бұрын
@@zvallidSeems you didn't get the "411" on the actual outcome of Germany's war of aggression
@casual_loser6733 Жыл бұрын
@@zvallidyou wehraboo
@gratefulguy4130 Жыл бұрын
@@craigoliver8712 What war of aggression?
@Juliuscaesar031510 ай бұрын
@@casual_loser6733bro he was making a joke chill
@reenactmentdays58913 жыл бұрын
I could see US and German propaganda, something like "Eagles stick together" or something Eagle related
@dereenaldoambun91583 жыл бұрын
Or make an alternate "Band of Brothers" series where Germans of US origin helping the fatherland.
@aarontoles59883 жыл бұрын
Germany would just be using America. Just like they were using Russia. Just like they used Italy. Just like they used Austria. At the end of the day only one would world power would be left standing. And it would be the one willing to use nuclear weapons.
@scooterbob44323 жыл бұрын
I think USA and Nazis became allies during the Cold War when CIA recruited ex SS/Gestapo officers to counter USSRs KGB. NASA also recruited Nazi rocket scientists.
@aarontoles59883 жыл бұрын
@@scooterbob4432 Damn, I keep forgetting key aspects of American cultural and historical links to fascist ideologies, silly me.
@jamesnash39223 жыл бұрын
@@scooterbob4432 , Russia literally did the same exact thing haha.
@Freak-px9uk3 жыл бұрын
England sink an american ship: "Sorry, mate, it was an accident." England sink a second american ship: "Bloody hell, I swear I didn't see it was you." *sips tea*
@scottricklaroque74283 жыл бұрын
As an American, who has been in the military I can totally see that happening. Not only that but probably working. lol
@Arai5033 жыл бұрын
Too bad the US was making ships so fast that the Navy probably wouldn't have noticed.
@josephking65153 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a plot in a Tom Clancy book. 🤔
@phillipbarbee81833 жыл бұрын
🤣 lmfao
@texasred27023 жыл бұрын
Nowadays it's more like, US Navy crashes into a supertanker in one of the busiest shipping lanes of the Pacific. Tactical Info Officer: "I thought you were watching the traffic." Officer of the Deck: "I thought *you* were watching it." USN amphib ship catches fire in drydock. Chief: "Who was standing fire watch?" Sailor: "the shipyard guy said the contractor does their own watch." Contractor: "That's not my job."
@EmilyF723 жыл бұрын
Don’t you just love how Switzerland is just neutral throughout this entire war, even though it’s been surrounded completely (360 degrees)
@TheRetirednavy923 жыл бұрын
and how they stole all the jewish gold.
@toainsully3 жыл бұрын
Switzerland throughout history: This is fine
@Mercury.S.3 жыл бұрын
they werent "neutral" they played both sides
@bubbagoo54193 жыл бұрын
You mean they funded both sides.
@mannarmylie41953 жыл бұрын
Its where the elites who both funded and profited from the war lived.
@Hamstorian7 ай бұрын
Japan: "Oh look, why is that Bomber only droping one bomb?" USA: "Here come's the Sun"
@poopshoes75797 ай бұрын
USA: say hello to Amaratsu
@Spacecowboy1997Ай бұрын
they never woudl have gotten the bomb if it wasnt for germany lol
@Martinxo513 жыл бұрын
I was about to watch a regular movie, but this is even better
@mint86483 жыл бұрын
hi marcatus
@corruptedmember25683 жыл бұрын
Hahaha yes it is in fact!
@kahohui35393 жыл бұрын
Yes it is
@hct71683 жыл бұрын
Some could make a movie or SOME out of this alternate reality LOL
@KIKO007523 жыл бұрын
What movie can you tell me pls maybe I can watch it?
@ravenlord43 жыл бұрын
I really like how this is a collection of "separate" wars, and where "alliances" are a matter of convenience and pragmatic rather than ideological. It is very messy yet totally realistic :)
@elsauce48733 жыл бұрын
Alliances were never ideological in WW2, unless you call a democratic - communist alliance an ideological one, or a fascist - nazi and plain authoritarian alliance an ideological one.
@ravenlord43 жыл бұрын
@@elsauce4873 Good point -- the US and UK have absolutely noting in common, and in fact are pretty much ideologically opposites on everything. It is a miracle that their soldiers didn't turn on each other on the field the moment that they had the chance. I guess the only thing that trumped their hatred of each other was their common desire to prevent a German super-state on the continent. lol
@elsauce48733 жыл бұрын
@@ravenlord4 I was talking about the Soviet Union, but okay.
@ravenlord43 жыл бұрын
@@elsauce4873 No. You said "Alliances were never ideological in WW2". Note the word "never".
@elsauce48733 жыл бұрын
@@ravenlord4Throughout WW2 there were no alliances that were formed because of ideological goals or similarities between nations. Alliances, like the axis for example, only existed because nations shared the same enemies.
@wettoasty58053 жыл бұрын
"The U.S navy's battleships were never tested in war, apart from their diving ability in pearl harbor"- had me do a double take when I first heard that
@jadonlewis99923 жыл бұрын
I know, right? Like wtf did he just say
@manofchaitea69043 жыл бұрын
Lol they were very much tested and found superior to the Japanese ships.
@Ihatetechnology3 жыл бұрын
Savage
@kevinschultz18603 жыл бұрын
Once the carrier was fully developed the battleship is proven to be pretty much just an artillery piece.
@MeowMeowMeowMeowMeowMeowMeowww3 жыл бұрын
Shots where fired ... or rather "bombs" where dropped ? :D
@Dark15801 Жыл бұрын
Fun Fact; In a war, if a country has cracked their enemies' battlenet (i prefer to use this term because it's similar to the codes used in ww2, only more modern and secured) or has a spy in their ranks and uses the intel gained to counter EVERY enemy offense/defense tactics, they'll quickly catch on. Doing that sorta thing is more short term advantage, so being careful to only use the advantages when needed is vital for long term.
@crimsondragon1259 Жыл бұрын
Unless the battle net is so ingrained into their tactics that it is hard to replace the battlenet or fix the leak. (ww2 examble being the enigma code being broken)
@XXLPIakat Жыл бұрын
The Brits knew about the Zimmerman Telegraph months before they released the information and they had all information the Germany sent over to their embassy in the USA.
@theducknamednewepicla9507 Жыл бұрын
Ok
@DanTheMailman330 Жыл бұрын
The German army backed by the massive manufacturing effort of the USA is frightening...
@KevinSmith-mh5oq Жыл бұрын
Yeah, that fact was thrilling.
@HighMojo2 жыл бұрын
In a parallel universe, Zvalid has made a video called: WW2 - What if USA joined the Allies instead of the Axis.
@dryspongeyt7353 Жыл бұрын
@@kieran8845 (that’s the joke)
@bobolaapi7034 Жыл бұрын
@@kieran8845 in other universe
@nickmitchell493 Жыл бұрын
Mind blowing
@ihonshou6988 Жыл бұрын
@@kieran8845 Dude... C'mow mank !
@AlyssMa7rin Жыл бұрын
WW2.3 - What if the USA Joined the Allies instead of the Axis instead of the Allies
@Mankorra_Gomorrah3 жыл бұрын
I love that you were able to concoct a reasonable and believable scenario where warplan red is able to be enacted exactly as its designers feared. America attempting to trade with a nation that Britain is at war with and Britain attacking to ensure that their blockade is upheld.
@rahowherox11773 жыл бұрын
America fuelled Germany even after joining in, and Ford and Chevy powered the war machine... (at least Chevy never sued and won at Nuremberg)
@Mankorra_Gomorrah3 жыл бұрын
@@rahowherox1177 i mean coke was serving Fanta to SS officers but I’d hardly take that as evidence that america was Germany’s breadbasket
@libefiken18633 жыл бұрын
I was honestly disappointed at how quickly they depicted Canada's defeat. And how little of an impact they made.
@theuberhunter96983 жыл бұрын
@@libefiken1863 Canada just doesn't have the numbers to hold a border that size. Plus, it's a very easily traversed terrain.
@ramonflores33193 жыл бұрын
@@rahowherox1177 literal brainwash
@sigamer2162 жыл бұрын
"The US Navy's battleships were never tested in war, except for their diving ability in Pearl Harbor" this made me laugh too hard xd
@marrenrue77312 жыл бұрын
In the Philippines they were in action and did quite well
@whitewolf12982 жыл бұрын
Actually the US Navy battleships in Pearl Harbor were a bunch of obsolete tubs from the WW1 era. Roosevelt had them planted in Pearl Harbor ro provoke Japan. All the valuable US warships, such as the aircraft carriers, were sent to sea a few days before the attack.
@jayjyuri87962 жыл бұрын
@@whitewolf1298 Japans fault they didn’t attack the other resources stations near Pearl that would have caused the ships at Pearl to take years to be repaired if it was destroyed
@whitewolf12982 жыл бұрын
@@jayjyuri8796 The question we should be asking is: Why did Japan attack in the first place? There were so many indications the US knew the attack was coming that the strike force should have turned back two days after it sailed. Pearl Harbor was crawling with Japanese spies and minisubs. They knew all the modern US warships had sailed. All that was sitting in the harbor were a bunch of obsolete battleships, a few old destroyers, some oil tankers, some repair ships, and supply craft. Japan would have been much better of attacking Russia, which in Dec 1941 was reeling from the onslaught of the German army. They could have seized the trans-Siberian railroad, exactly as they had done in 1905, and gotten all the oil they needed from the German-controlled Caucasus region of Russia. The Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, from both a strategic and tactical perspective, was absolutely, galactically stupid.
@debanjandatta34072 жыл бұрын
@@whitewolf1298 the khalkhin gol was a major psycological blow for japan that they didnt think to attack soviet uniom for entire time
@CliffCardi Жыл бұрын
“We fought the right enemy.” -this video’s George S. Patton
@heathmcrigsby Жыл бұрын
So damn based. If we went with Patton's plan and he wasn't assassinated, communism would have been erased from history. We would have cities on Mars at this point.
@michellepeoplelikeyoumurde8373 Жыл бұрын
Correct,usa hadmore in common with the Nazis, race hatred,segregation,inter racial laws ,Kkk the Bund
@cannabislife1688 Жыл бұрын
My Grandpa fought in WW2 for the USA and our Ancestor’s, ironically we’re from Germany. My Grandpa crossed into the Rhine in 1945
@AlexanderTheGreat-q8p Жыл бұрын
When hearing Patten say "we found the wrong enemy" is when I had to relearn history. It's amazing what they tried to keep from us.
@TheUncivilizedNation Жыл бұрын
@@AlexanderTheGreat-q8p propaganda hits different
@bradleyblock75403 жыл бұрын
Rommel and Patton fighting on the same side? Jesus. That's frightening.
@Adino13 жыл бұрын
That is why Churchill threw in the towel. He wanted none of that.
@mrcaboosevg60893 жыл бұрын
Britain had Montgomery and the Soviets had Zhukov, as we all know Rommel's time was cut short
@littlst3 жыл бұрын
Plus Guderian and Von Runstedt.
@gwclive65303 жыл бұрын
@@littlst Guderian is better than Rommel
@dxcpt3 жыл бұрын
@@gwclive6530 Sure..
@enochchow40993 жыл бұрын
Time traveler: drops a glass cup* The timeline:
@yourfriendlyneighborhoodcl48243 жыл бұрын
Lol
@randomspacedude40073 жыл бұрын
nah it's more Time traveler: exhales* The timeline:
@darkprometheus2 жыл бұрын
Here's a question though, if you went back in time or forward in time, theory would suggest that your position in the universe wouldn't change so if that is the case, wouldn't you just time travel and be in space? 😂
@enochchow40992 жыл бұрын
@@darkprometheus Noted... Include space positioning calculation if I ever make a time travel movie.
@darkprometheus2 жыл бұрын
@@enochchow4099 it's more complex than that. You could never time travel backwards unless your in a space ship cause not even making cosmic calculations would work. How would you move yourself both spatially and time wise cause that would mean you either have to move before you time travel, during your time travel which would be even more difficult cause you would have to actually move yourself cause you cant just Teleport somewhere else randomly, or do it after.
@AFGuidesHD3 жыл бұрын
What if Germany adopted the gold standard and the free markets ?
@zvallid3 жыл бұрын
The greatest fear of the bank and finance powers
@davidwyle11353 жыл бұрын
@@zvallid what do you mean by that🤨🤨
@adobscurum54033 жыл бұрын
The war would have never started then. It was a pure financial war, no matter what they tell you. The fact that Germany privatized their banks was a big blow to the powers
@zvallid3 жыл бұрын
@@adobscurum5403 I meant that the greates fear of bank powers was the gold standard
@adobscurum54033 жыл бұрын
@@zvallid not really, the dollar first got rid of the gold standard in 1971, the same year where the research against Covid started (look at Archive if you don’t believe me). If they had feared gold standard so much, they‘d get rid of it sooner.
@memeityy Жыл бұрын
American manufacturing and German engineering is a match made in heaven.
@newton18311 Жыл бұрын
British Ingenuity rules the world.
@memeityy Жыл бұрын
@@newton18311 In the mid-to-late 20th and now 21st century, US Military ingenuity still reigns supreme.
@newton18311 Жыл бұрын
@@memeityy Who designed your f35, who gave you the jet engine.
@memeityy Жыл бұрын
@@newton18311 Lockheed Martin and Pratt & Whitney. Both are American.
@newton18311 Жыл бұрын
@@memeityy No well i never, Britian Invented vertical take off, as in The harrier then had a lot of input into the F35
@aakashpawar61953 жыл бұрын
US: *Nukes two Russian Cities* Stalin: Ah fuck it. Use the gas!
@DannyrusK2 жыл бұрын
LMAO
@clementpoon1202 жыл бұрын
japan should've used the gas too because they nuked them
@shelbyspeaks32872 жыл бұрын
stalin: "hold my tsar bomba.."
@shelbyspeaks32872 жыл бұрын
@@robier *redditor corrects simpleton on soviet history
@greattventertainmententerp56372 жыл бұрын
@@robier tsar Bomba gas bomb, a 50 Megaton gas bomb instead
@Tennischamp4502 жыл бұрын
Hitler: “I don’t expect much from the Americans” America: Industry intensifies Hitler: “Okay Ike, you’re in charge”
@txe1nd Жыл бұрын
Lol
@poopshoes7579 Жыл бұрын
Hitler: I’m good at drawing and like dogs I can offer drawings of doggos as reparations, my scientists are greatest at holding beers and said beers remain cold
@hailitalia86 Жыл бұрын
I think u meant Judan intensifies..... Google Judea Declares War on Germany and check the dates on those newspapers.... We were so lied to it hurts when u wake up
@letsgobrandon7297 Жыл бұрын
@poopshoes7579: Yeah but Germany had the smartest scientists at the time (till they all came here and helped us win the moon race). They were a decade more advanced than ours.
@billolsen4360 Жыл бұрын
Ike to FDR: As far as France is concerned, they'll still hate us no matter which side we're on.
@bradtaft8120 Жыл бұрын
the idea of a sherman with a tigers 88mm gun is wicked to me that tank would be a monster
@knackerEv10 ай бұрын
I've doubts about that combination. Not in the possibility but in the video depiction. The Sherman turret as manufactured would have been too small and would require a redesign. As well as would the Sherman's suspension and drive train. Such a vehicle wouldn't have just looked like a Sherman with the larger gun. We're speculating a heavy tank gun into a medium tank turret and chassis. If just throwing that gun into a medium tank and it magically just work had been feasible, the Germans would have loaded it into the panzer four as standard. It would be interesting to see a mock up of the Sherman with the necessary modifications to make it possible to carry and use the 88 tho.
@HandsomeT-z4l6 ай бұрын
@@knackerEv with Germany famous engineering and USA resources+manufacturing will made war machine that can be mass produced in instant.
@publichearing85366 ай бұрын
or imagine a Tiger II with the 50mm cannon 💪 if we waste all the oil, nobody can wage war against us.
@lidianane5364 ай бұрын
@@knackerEv Yeah. Perhaps a Pershing would be a more fitting tank to give the 88mm, considering they had an 90mm cannon attachee
@michaelcisneros63523 ай бұрын
@@lidianane536that or see if the firefly treatment will work
@mr.pinecone65583 жыл бұрын
One of the best alternate history channels
@falco64143 жыл бұрын
"one of" should be non existent in this comment
@giulio_00623 жыл бұрын
@@falco6414 The best
@Luka-pv2dt3 жыл бұрын
yup
@MrBismarckistKaiser3 жыл бұрын
Me to
@mint86483 жыл бұрын
better than commie alternatehistory hub
@dimitrijetrikic81933 жыл бұрын
Axis: drops two nukes on USSR Stalin: Anyways,...
@TR33ZY_CRTM3 жыл бұрын
*I WANT ALL AVAILABLE COMRADES TO CONTINUE FIGHTING THROUGH THE NUCLEAR FALLOUT!!!* *NOT ONE STEP BACK, COMRADES!!!*
@chrisca3 жыл бұрын
-Comrade, the americans bombed Leningrad with a new weapon + A new weapon? How many? - Just one explosion. 100.000 people, most of the railway infraestructure, and the icy roads are lost + Oh no... anyway _calls Zhukov for the daily report_
@TR33ZY_CRTM3 жыл бұрын
@@chrisca *Zhukov:* Oh hey, Comrade Stalin. I'm betraying you so we can end the war peacefully. *Stalin:* What? *Zhukov:* What? _Suitcase explodes and kills Stalin_
@scottricklaroque74283 жыл бұрын
lol A totally Russian reaction. Seriously, gotta admire the Russian resolve.
@chrisca3 жыл бұрын
@@TR33ZY_CRTM "Want a job done? You call the Army"
@darthzannah89003 жыл бұрын
GUYS THE KING IS BACK HES BAAAAACK
@danman64313 жыл бұрын
he been back bucko
@walker681753 жыл бұрын
This isn't a new video on a new scenario btw. This is just all the videos in the "USA joins Axis" series mashed together into utter epicness.
@eurasian84923 жыл бұрын
pog
@craigmartinj3 жыл бұрын
I wish this history had been ours... yeah this is going to get erased. Still...
@Shira_Chan_3 жыл бұрын
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@stephenkolostyak4087 Жыл бұрын
"WW2 - What is Russia never joined the Axis powers?" "It is the year 1939, Hitler and Stalin are having a painting competition hosted in Poland..."
@HandsomeT-z4l6 ай бұрын
Uh, excuse me but "Axis" Power?
@LouisbertrandIvander-iw9mb6 ай бұрын
@@HandsomeT-z4l yes it was called that
@HandsomeT-z4l6 ай бұрын
@@LouisbertrandIvander-iw9mb I understood now, he mention about a pararrel world not real world where Russian is not formed yet and Soviet where never part of Axis
@charlessagun51553 жыл бұрын
Plot twist: This guy is reporting his history and is not form this timeline
@wilsoniothegreat61623 жыл бұрын
Plot twist: this is all real but someone remembered it wrong
@emillyyelen51693 жыл бұрын
@@wilsoniothegreat6162 x files...
@gijsdebruine33193 жыл бұрын
The Man In The High Castle but reversed
@acesb47233 жыл бұрын
Stranger things happen
@user-fu7kr1wq5c3 жыл бұрын
What does he reported wrong that wasn't form you called timeline or youre timeline? 🤣 answer it or the plot twist change to " You're idiot!"🤣
@austrakaiser47933 жыл бұрын
The USA puts so much money into evolving their military they're a game changer for whoever's side they're on. Edit: I meant nowadays. Also I have not checked this comment in a while, I appreciate your appreciation :)
@enternamehere41243 жыл бұрын
Bettewn the industry and the absurd amout of money they spend in their military i will say that having the U.S.A as an allie is almost the same as cheating a bit to much
@frankorobinson15403 жыл бұрын
Its a shame and a act against humanity that the world will not adopt the military stamina heart and soul of the fighting men of the usa Britain Australia Norway Sweden Holland Canada and so many other free nations of the world in uniting as one and getting the rest to join with us in a world of peace where all people are equal, yes we are far from perfect, but I truly believe this is the only way we will ever end war and senceless killing of free working and proud people of the world, there is enough problems with violent criminals destroying the world lets finally agree 👍 that sencelessly killing people in governments wars is a waste of everyone's time it never lasts long evil is always eventually defeated unfortunately evil rises again somewhere again,haven't we learned anything after 50.000 years that forcing people to follow evil direction never lasts,evil is eventually stamped out ,but at the cost of millions of lifes most all of the time why do idiots like hitler even try 🤔 😳 like his 1000 year Riech that lasted less than 10 to many human lives are lost in war genocide and evil thinking they can exterminate a race because of false beliefs and propaganda, I hope this isent our eventual demise of the human race because someone believes there gang is more important than another, like the first cavemen killing each other over a woman or a chunk of meat over a campfire, are we really that feeble minded 😉 I hope this isent our inherented fault from our ancestors that we can never get away from,haven't we evolved yet,will we ever learn from our past mistakes that the only thing important is family and water and food,nothing else really matters,but unfortunately it might be our greed to control and have it all in our control that could be our end,its in our control, to try for our grandchildren future to live a decent life on this beautiful planet as we have,will greed eventually be our biggest flaw and our environmental disaster that ends us all,I think we deserve to leave a better story for our history than that,lets hope
@howard54hb3 жыл бұрын
@@enternamehere4124 hE HaS aIMbOt aND ThE uSa rEpoRt hIM
@alexanderh.58143 жыл бұрын
Yep. The US supplied Russia with 18 million tons of supplies. The US supplied it’s own army in Europe with 22 million tons of supplies.
@Breakdown52973 жыл бұрын
@@alexanderh.5814 yea, the russians were making T-34's with aluminum engines due to the sheer amount being imported from the US
@vincentmarfe4453 жыл бұрын
The thing I love about this video, is as someone who knows a lot about WW2, I love being able to understand each battle in order, some dates are off, but with a twist of, the sides have changed. And the way you blend the events of fiction and fact, is absolutely amazing.
@Sun-Tzu-3 жыл бұрын
If you think this is even close to being possible, you clearly know nothing about WW2.
@durkin96643 жыл бұрын
I just put the discrepancies down to the butterfly effect.
@jamesw712 жыл бұрын
disagree...it was pathetic amateur hour
@vincentmarfe4452 жыл бұрын
@@Sun-Tzu- I never said anything about being possible, I said I could understand the events in the order they're in, and it was a great mix of fact and fiction.
@vincentmarfe4452 жыл бұрын
@@jamesw71 would you like to submit an hour-long rebuttal to this? I would enjoy watching it and giving appropriate feedback
@tangosmymango Жыл бұрын
"Hey Britian, you know how you invaded us?" "...yeah?" "We are going to take a quick swim." "wait, what?"
@richardstarkey22473 жыл бұрын
Alright, that shot of Tojo's head photoshopped onto FDR's body at the Tehran conference made me laugh.
@Shadow_KnightDPM2 жыл бұрын
You can see that the USA is a real powerhouse, able to rebuild an entire part of their army, so switching sides is the real turning point, this was an interesting and amazing video
@julesemma72492 жыл бұрын
It's not about the USA if the Soviets join the Axis. Axis was the winner.
@Shadow_KnightDPM2 жыл бұрын
@@julesemma7249 Well if you've seen the video about what if the soviet union joined the axis, you'll see that it has become a stalemate because of the axis their lack of naval power and the allies their lack of land forces
@julesemma72492 жыл бұрын
@@Shadow_KnightDPM It would also be a dead end if Joseph Stalin was not killed. And in the clip where Soviets join the Axis, it shows that the Core is more powerful and weaponized than the Allies. even if they didn't win and if you take the US Fight the Nazis alone. The United States will lose. It's not really about the United States.
@ockyway80862 жыл бұрын
@@julesemma7249 if soviet joined allies would of won
@tymeier75702 жыл бұрын
@@ockyway8086 Stalin himself said that without American lend lease, Germany would have won
@roperoaventuras3 жыл бұрын
It's not-fiction, it's alternate history. I like it.
@miragelee97543 жыл бұрын
@Fishy Tree partly fictional but yes, it’s possible that this happened.
@AK.CC13 жыл бұрын
@Fishy Tree do you really not understand what they meant to say... Dummy
@georgbergsten60503 жыл бұрын
alternate history is literally fiction. It's impossible to know what could've happened
@specialnewb98213 жыл бұрын
Its alien space bats really.
@ghostie70283 жыл бұрын
@@georgbergsten6050 I agree with you, we can speculate but we cant know what happens
@Normh3Ай бұрын
Absolute masterpiece, i rarely watch 1 hour long videos but this one even made me like it, its so good, it isnt boring or anything, describes well the battles, absolutely perfect!
@KrK0073 жыл бұрын
"Hmmm. Sounds like the war isn't going so well." "For who?" "Everyone..."
@vicemontey42973 жыл бұрын
America would like to disagree still :D
@SteventheOrigin3 жыл бұрын
@@vicemontey4297 what?
@vicemontey42973 жыл бұрын
@@SteventheOrigin America still won the war and was the deciding factor of it. So yeah America would like to disagree still :D
@sandroblechinger47373 жыл бұрын
@@vicemontey4297 who used nucelar weapons to win? Hmmm i do belive that was america cus they couldnt stop japan
@vicemontey42973 жыл бұрын
@@sandroblechinger4737 What? I am pretty sure everybody agrees that using the nuclear weapons was a bad idea and unnecessary to close out the pacific theater. If anything we should have withheld the nuclear weapon and used it on a different war as to not lose the element of surprise. SO what if it would cost 1 million more American lives we could have unified north and south Korea or forced the USSR and CCP to submit to us later on had we not nuked Japan during WWII. This is stupid to claim that the US was having troubles closing out Japan. It was only a matter of time that Japan would surrender nukes or no. EDIT: Japan lost all hope when they failed at midway and lost at coral sea. It was over they would only make last stand attempts to the bitter end. Even then Imperial Army and Navy realized it was over. You're telling me Japan was a threat when they couldn't even field a sizable air and naval presence by 1945? You're insane. How do you think Imperial Japan would win against an all in America without a navy or air force?
@patriot72603 жыл бұрын
This is actually really insightful and polite, even kind to the enemies of our timeline. I love it. Thank you very much zvallid.
@anotherrandomasian2 жыл бұрын
UK: "Why did you join the Axis Powers?" US: "Why?" *"It's because we have cool birds on our emblems."* Edit: Damn people actually agree with me. Thanks.
@PatrickKniesler2 жыл бұрын
"Look at you with a stupid unicorn on yours, UK. That's not even a real animal. I bet you little girls like tea parties and teddy bears, too - OH WAIT you DO!"
@PhilK1162 жыл бұрын
@@PatrickKniesler Thats true. In America its the complete opposite. It seems now the guys with unicorns and teddy bears and the girls SAYING they can do this and that and acting butch yet objecting to having to do the same levels
@GreenLeafUponTheSky2 жыл бұрын
@@PatrickKniesler As an American that likes tea, I'm offended
@dondiddley5404 Жыл бұрын
"The Birdie Boys"
@flamer6566 Жыл бұрын
You know, us Eagles should stick together like 2 birds of a feather🇩🇪🇮🇹🇺🇲 (Or in this case 3)
@marcusanton95 Жыл бұрын
I just had to pause this video, very well made BTW to say the idea of Patton working along side with Rommel just makes smile. Two of the greatest tank commanders working together, Oh shit you're screwed.
@bryantjb3 жыл бұрын
Putting a '88 on a Sherman would have been awesome. It would be the equivalent of putting a big block V8 in a old Ford Ranger, but still love the idea. Closest we got was the Firefly
@TheDutie3 жыл бұрын
I'm saying this based of Videogame knowledge but when i played world of tanks the firefly was the only enjoyable m4 variant I played its no 88 but putting the large 17 pounder on a sherman still seems like an epic idea
@spacejamsham24403 жыл бұрын
Trust me, the 76mm Sherman was miles better than the Firefly
@lookaquarter3 жыл бұрын
In the 50s France was given a bunch of M4s which they allowed different design companies to mess around with. On one of the prototypes they installed a 105mm gun, unfortunately, they never built any beyond the prototype stage. I think they put a version of it in World of Tanks or War Thunder.
@lucasmiller43483 жыл бұрын
It likely would've been a Kwk 42 75mm gun, not an 88, the Kwk 42 was the rough equilivent of the 17 pounder for germany and it would've had a similar result.
@kawaiidestruktor78093 жыл бұрын
76mm sherman would be better than 88 sherman
@Charlie_00143 жыл бұрын
~17:18 "American battleships were never tested in war, except for their diving ability at Pearl Harbor." Why is this funny
@beerme20963 жыл бұрын
Cold-blooded lol
@invadegreece92813 жыл бұрын
The whole not tested part is BS
@whenyoupulloutyourdickands40233 жыл бұрын
And then the Iowa class shows up and becomes the ultimate xenith of all battleships remaining in service until the 90s
@protogenhorde85153 жыл бұрын
Well because it is
@leminhquocvinh94863 жыл бұрын
I suppose in the timeline the US did not have the experience from the war in Pacific
@이동연-c6d3 жыл бұрын
Wow, a full video of USA joined the Axis! I like it! Thank you for the update! XD :) :D
@Joynauti Жыл бұрын
Stalin suddenly exploding caught me way more off guard than it should of have.
@jackgrimm2038 ай бұрын
It was a jumpscare lol
@kajamergl3 жыл бұрын
Stalin: Loses 300,000 citizens Also Stalin: *Pours Vodka*
@builuuquanghuy41443 жыл бұрын
stalin do everything to keep his power even if he have to everyone
@ColinTherac1173 жыл бұрын
In our timeline, the soviets lost millions. 300k is a drop in the bucket. They lost over 600k soldiers in a single encirclement. But I still have trouble believing that the soviets would lose. They outnumbered the Germans 12 mil to 8 mil. And German tanks tended to be overcomplicated. So the scenario presented with the US help allowing a stalemate until Stalin gets assassinated is plausible. But even then, I doubt Hitler would allow anything less than the creation of a full Lebensraum, which the US would utterly despise. Especially after the US sees the concentration camps.
@elviadarkgrape28593 жыл бұрын
@@ColinTherac117 Hitler going on east the main reason was not lebensraum but destroying bolshevism. The idea that germany should get more lebensraum existed even before hitler due to british naval blockade in ww1 which hurt the german people and created a food crisis. I doubt Usa is any morally superior to the third reich, when it provoked the axis powers always the war, they even had camps themselves for germans, italians and japanese. Throwing nuclear bombs, War agitating, eisenhowers deathcamps. Ofc I Soviets and The germans also had crimes. But I dont think Usa is in any moral position to judge.
@SergeyPRKL3 жыл бұрын
@@ColinTherac117 What camps? ;)
@kiddankula54803 жыл бұрын
That part got me dead 😂😂
@dela_v82273 жыл бұрын
I liked how this mentioned the atrocities committed and how we never mention the ones commuted by the Soviets, it's a "Wake up to reality" moment.
@SparrowNoblePoland3 жыл бұрын
You maybe not. But it makes sense, since Soviets committed atrocities mainly towards their own people, or on Germans as a revenge for the war. From the West's perspective it doesn't matter. In Poland we were attacked both by Germany and Soviets, and both committed atrocities on us, yet math shows that Germans killed us 4 to 6 millions just between 1939 and 1945, while soviets only 300-350 thousand from 1939 to 1953. For anyone outside Soviet Union, Soviet Union was effectively a lesser evil.
@ostrich673 жыл бұрын
What do you mean we never mention the atrocities committed by the Soviets? Everyone knows about them. Are you one of the people still being told to worry about a Commie takeover?
@dela_v82273 жыл бұрын
@@ostrich67 By everyone you surely mean everyone who knows about the holocaust right? It's not a 1:1 ratio on it, and no I'm not worried, that has nothing to do with what I said
@ostrich673 жыл бұрын
@@dela_v8227 What are you implying then?
@dela_v82273 жыл бұрын
@@SparrowNoblePoland have you seen Man in the High Castle(Amazon Prime series)?it's a Japan&Germany win situation, and Germany was teaching students The murder of the natives in the Americas in schools
@ede77223 жыл бұрын
Wow, you guys did a heck of a job figuring out this alternate history. You all seemed to have researched a great deal of information and come up with a alternate viable scenario for WWII. Please continue with these alternate histories, these are the best ones I've seen on the KZbin.
@danieljones99373 жыл бұрын
Good story? Yes, absolutely. Viable? Do me a favour!
@DGARedRaven3 жыл бұрын
@@danieljones9937 If capitalists and communists could work together against the Nazis, so it is not entirely unreasonable to assume that it could've worked the other way, too. Remember that the full extent of Nazi crimes only came to light AFTER the war and were not part of the everyday propaganda. Of course, 'viable' is a strong word - but I'm fully going for 'plausible'.
@Stux6-33 жыл бұрын
@@danieljones9937 If "Hilter" Would have just accept Austria, Yugoslavia and Czechoslovakia then Continue with the technical improvement and wait for Stalin to attack Poland... Stalin would have been the same common enemy as "Hilter" was in our timeline.
@danieljones99373 жыл бұрын
@@DGARedRaven It's true that the general public weren't informed of Nazi atrocities like Auschwitz but the Allied authorities sure as hell were. I just don't find it plausible that the US would stick with such monsters.
@danieljones99373 жыл бұрын
@@Stux6-3 I think Stalin was opportunist rather than flat-out expansionist. I could be wrong there though. I know Hitler /was/ expansionist, though. He rebuilt the German economy through transforming it into a war machine. Again, it's pretty implausible that he'd just stop, particularly with his attitude towards Poles.
@robbieclark7828 Жыл бұрын
This is the timeline that flashed through George Patton’s head right before the end
@seanchan71673 жыл бұрын
Eisenhower and Rommel working together? I AM WEAK OH YES YAS
@thedriszen83503 жыл бұрын
Start Rommel from the Baltic... and Patton from the Aleutians... yell GO! and see how long it takes for them to meet.
@PugnaciousProductions3 жыл бұрын
Rommel, Eisenhower, and Patton.
@tnt_ak86253 жыл бұрын
@Alenas Kvasninas this was a different time. During ww1 and 2 when Americans entered there had a Vendetta. The only reason we left Vietnam and now the Afghanistan war is because of the leftists and idiotic Viewon the world.
@casual_speedrunner14823 жыл бұрын
@@tnt_ak8625 No, it’s because staying would have been a costly affair and lead to nothing. In Vietnam we couldn’t push north for fear of Chinese nuclear payback, and in Afghanistan our troops were slowly being picked off. The Taliban is not a conventional military, but an idea, and an idea cannot be stopped no matter how much of any military force you throw at it. Things would have been different if the CIA was involved to assassinate and demoralize key parts of the Taliban, but we’ve stayed there 20 years and only empowered them more and more as time went on. Even Biden leaving idiotic amounts of weaponry behind made little impact compared to the mere US presence in the country.
@alexandarvoncarsteinzarovi37233 жыл бұрын
Well now Rommel & Patton can have that chess game in peace, also why is everybody giving the guy with half his face shot off from Finland 2km space?
@The_OneManCrowd3 жыл бұрын
Cause if he has you in his iron sights, you're dead lol. Perkele!!
@jacklarue70493 жыл бұрын
Because that ‘Fin with half his face shot off’ would shoot the left nut off an 🦅 at 2k yards!
@bloodyspartan3003 жыл бұрын
@@jacklarue7049 He could probably shoot a hair of either nut you chose
@johnthompson95133 жыл бұрын
@@bloodyspartan300 ; It's getting Deep
@erikgibbs94003 жыл бұрын
Simo hayha
@bobjiang60293 жыл бұрын
This video is underrated, considering how much time was spent on this and how realistic they were able to make it, I think it deserves at least 20 million views
@Brett7333 жыл бұрын
Ya very good content!
@rxdntpto3 жыл бұрын
I agree, unfortunately there are so many videos out there that people work so hard on and they get very few views. 😢
@dobknocks3 жыл бұрын
@@rxdntpto hard work does not equal quality sonny
@rxdntpto3 жыл бұрын
@@dobknocks did I say it does? Did I say every single video that has had a lot of effort put into it deserves views? No. I said there are a lot that do deserve views, sonny.
@dobknocks3 жыл бұрын
@@rxdntpto my point stands, even with your edit. now go to sleep. just stop it. get some help.
@liamcastro9896 Жыл бұрын
1:25 why do i feel like Germany and The USSR are gonna start a rap battle
@ItalianCountryball11 Жыл бұрын
😂
@dwaynechapman8123 жыл бұрын
Please do an extend to this one about the Cold War in this timeline
@zvallid3 жыл бұрын
it will be the next video
@bluyt38063 жыл бұрын
@@zvallid can you do a video of what if the Japanese joined the central powers? It's possible because they could of gotten the European colonies
@bluyt38063 жыл бұрын
Since after getting german colonies (wich were very little ) they didn't do much maybe the could of invaded India and Australia wich is better than some small islands
@KaiserPalpi3 жыл бұрын
@@bluyt3806 good idea! And,no only Japan. What,if Italy,Japan,Romenian and Tailand war for Germany in WW1 like WW2.
@KaiserPalpi3 жыл бұрын
@Luca Denegri 1)this scenario can be only if Russia and Germany-Ally. 2)too. 3)Khrushev will be win. 60-s for USSR was very good time: no post-war devastion and no crisis 70s-80s. China-enemy,but if it join in war,India help for Soviet. In Africa Soviet have more anti-colonoies ally,N. Korea fot now stronger S. Korea. Soviet have slow rise economic,but in 60-s economic mo biger, than western. 4)China will be fall. He is frech rebellious "colonies" USSR. USA will be halp,but no more- it's no cheap.
@buttersstotch20143 жыл бұрын
“The nuke kills 300,000 people” Stalin is not particularly scared of this weapon “ *those are rookie numbers, you gotta bump up them numbers* ”
@EZ-cz5en3 жыл бұрын
Graystillplays reference
@trainknut3 жыл бұрын
"I killed more people in Siberia last week, is this new weapon supposed to frighten me?"
@servit0r3 жыл бұрын
One could say it was just a statistic.
@sqike001ton3 жыл бұрын
plus Stalin knew about the nukes before they were used he had a spy in the Manhattan project there were some scientist who fluted with communism and didnt want the US to be the only ones with nukes as they might us them to eliminate communism
@trainknut3 жыл бұрын
@@sqike001ton the scenario might not have been exactly the same tho, with Nazi scientists, and the USSR being an enemy, we don't know if those agents would've gotten that close to the Manhattan project.
@donpietruk15172 жыл бұрын
Also could you tell imagine a German Wehrmacht whose supply chain was fully motorized by US supplied trucks and support vehicles instead of the horses, carts and mules they used?
@vishalnarayanasamy87672 жыл бұрын
The Logistics and Supply lines problem would be solved
@donpietruk1517 Жыл бұрын
@@ChristopherAgreda-i2j Oh yeah I agree you would end up with American manufacturing companies producing German designed vehicles.
@kashmir3489 Жыл бұрын
US aid going to the Axis rather than the allies is a terrifying thing to think about. Barbarossa in this timeline would be a lot more one-sided, cant imagine Soviet defense without so much lend-lease aid
@donpietruk1517 Жыл бұрын
@@ChristopherAgreda-i2j I'm not denying that they did. I'm just saying their supply chain was never fully motorized like the allies. There are many recorded instances of Wehrmacht supplies being delivered by non motorized methods. This undoubtedly impacted operations.
@kashmir3489 Жыл бұрын
@@donpietruk1517 Well written
@lilirisch1612 ай бұрын
This storytelling is so good, you can think its the real story of ww2
@AErch3 жыл бұрын
"The US navy's battleships were never tested for war except for their diving ability at Pearl Harbor" had me laughing
@MrSilk136423 жыл бұрын
The entire US naval pacific theater of war: "Am I a joke to you?"
@willymueller32783 жыл бұрын
Dont worry, the ones that were diving were old, useless vessels, they took the good ones out before the attack, because they knew, what will happen. Its part of modern warfare.
@jond77543 жыл бұрын
@@willymueller3278 that and most of the ships were sunk in shallow water and were raised repaired and back in the fight fairly quickly. While technically a success for the Japanese navy, the major thing it accomplished was pissing off the USA
@Arai5033 жыл бұрын
I would say "shots fired" but I'd be nearly 80 years too late.
@willymueller32783 жыл бұрын
@@jond7754 And the USA had a reason to go to war, they let it happen.
@sikorsky58152 жыл бұрын
Imagine being a Soviet soldier in Leningrad and suddenly the ground rumbles..it isn't a tank assault...it is from above as dozens of B-17s, with massive payloads of bombs compared to German bombers rumbling over the city for the first time. God I cannot imagine how scary a scenario that would be for someone on the ground.
@アレクサンダーイワノフ2 жыл бұрын
Nazis and Americans best friends
@nodishtoodeep30532 жыл бұрын
You’d be in Leningrad with all your machines stuck and broken down, sitting with your gun that only had 12 bullets, because the US never got to the point to triple your country’s supply capabilities with their freight cars and trucks.
@plushluigi74172 жыл бұрын
@Comrade Heavy youtube is having a moment
@CT--vm6cm2 жыл бұрын
I did some research of both countries largest bomber planes and their both basically the same b17s span is 104 while Germany heinkel is 103 plus their both 74 and 72 inch by length
@CT--vm6cm2 жыл бұрын
🤓*
@gumdeo3 жыл бұрын
The US Navy versus the Royal Navy would have been so epic.
@jamesricker39973 жыл бұрын
Carrier air power would have decided it decisively in the American's favor
@CrimsonUltrafox3 жыл бұрын
Her Majesty's Royal Navy is formidable but they would not have fared well against the US for one reason alone. Sheer production ability. The US had an absurd amount of aircraft carriers by the end of WW2. Plus the US is on another continent which makes hitting their shipyards and factories way more difficult. The Royal Navy only mopped up the Kriegsmarine because they outnumbered them severely. That would not have been the case against the US. It would probably be somewhat even for the first few years, but the US would easily win the long war of attrition.
@bonkbonk4203 жыл бұрын
@@CrimsonUltrafox not to mention with all their superiority on almost everything, from intelligence to numbers, the u boats still managed to be a major pain in the ass until 43-44 when they simply couldnt/wouldnt produce more. the us navy is the equivalent to the red army, simply being able to trade casualties at a rate so overwhelming for the enemy that you just cannot defeat them singlehandedly
@aaronandelise3 жыл бұрын
The way it should've been.
@alexanderh.58143 жыл бұрын
Maybe at the beginning but the US was pumping out so many ships by 1943 they would have overwhelmed them.
@stormapv0000 Жыл бұрын
Damn 💀💀 Japan can’t skip the canon event
@MrCokeman69911 Жыл бұрын
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@LuckyWolfUnleashed6 ай бұрын
HERE COMES THE SUN
@jamesgoodwin17413 жыл бұрын
I like how its mentioned that the holocaust would just be covered up the same way the communist genocides were in our timeline. i was wondering how that would get squared with the theoretical western allies
@DevelopmentRobco3 жыл бұрын
All 8 million of them living in Germany and captured land. *BS
@SparrowNoblePoland3 жыл бұрын
Covered up? Where? How? All you need to learn about communist atrocities is move yourself to a library and find a book about it. Nobody covered communist atrocities in the West, and in the commie block they admitted they've done it already in late 1950s.
@kennethfharkin3 жыл бұрын
@@SparrowNoblePoland Covered up in the west isn't entirely accurate. Communist genocides are more accurately simply not discussed like Nazi Germany, at least in American education and popular culture. This is because a great many educators and Hollywood types are decidedly hard left leaning. Even when they know and accept the horrible atrocities committed in the name of world communism/socialism they prefer NOT to mention it because it is counterproductive to achieving the goals of communism/socialism in western society. The average high school student in American learns all about the Holocaust and the Nazis. They are also told repeatedly how evil their own nation was during western expansion. They are not told how those western tribes also exterminated each other for millennia before Europeans arrived, The Holomodor in the Soviet Union which slaughtered 3.5 million, Stalin's purges, Pol Pot's mass murders, Mao Zedong's mass murders, or any other atrocities which don't match the narrative being pushed. Yes, you can FIND information on all of these IF YOU LOOK. Unless you look though they are conveniently left out of most general education.
@philliplumpkin63693 жыл бұрын
I've lived in Finland and went to school there learned alot about WWII moved to America went to the schools here and was told something else and that what I was taught was wrong sooo yeah I believe country's teach differently and we'll i guess brainwash your ass.
@oceansteaderkelp67563 жыл бұрын
@@kennethfharkin imperialism/colonialism is also not talked about. Why's that, are many Hollywood writers imperialist? Also Oooh they killed each other so it's perfectly fine we did it too! You're not Repeatedly told anything. You just like to avoid the slightest mention.
@adamelam63853 жыл бұрын
"Shortly after Britain declares war on the US, Bernard Montgomery was overheard saying that he fears we have awakened a sleeping giant."
@ham4da3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@tommyboy8893 жыл бұрын
Yes and Montgomery was a Hero in our timeline definitely interesting he would never have been known as one. No Americans no d-day he would never be known for his victory in Normandy. Therefore he would be just another casualty of war.
@adamelam63853 жыл бұрын
@@tommyboy889 Monty made his name in North Africa defeating Rommel's depleted Afrika Korp.
@tommyboy8893 жыл бұрын
@@adamelam6385 I didn't know that thanks for the info
@stevealharris66693 жыл бұрын
Or at least we don`t have to worry about friendy fire
@worldmapper60653 жыл бұрын
A true well made "movie", alternate histories are pretty interesting even being scary sometimes, good work
@ihateihatezvallid3463 жыл бұрын
Hello!
@MrError-ph3te Жыл бұрын
The video: “a lack of experienced officers, and very few saw combat of any kind” Douglas McArthur: allow me to introduce myself-
@KidRob3 жыл бұрын
It's rare when KZbin recommends something good and interesting. Great alternative history really well made and great realistic outcomes following events.
@axelulisesvazquezibanez46033 жыл бұрын
I love your videos, I speak Spanish and your subtitles help me a lot to understand English and I have fun with your stories, thank you very much and keep it up
@DKGCustom3 жыл бұрын
I would say this alternate history would make a great movie, except there's way too many dumb people who would accept it as fact. Great story on how political allegiances are always on a knife edge.
@fenrirsulfr44403 жыл бұрын
It would be a good movie. There will always be dumb people that take movies as truth. That shouldn't stop someone from making it.
@Nozxoki3 жыл бұрын
Just the explanation of this alt history is an hour long, it would work better as a series rather than a film, maybe following the story of a British and Japanese soldier simultaneously until the meet up in the pacific or smt like that.
@zachbishop78683 жыл бұрын
Yeah hahah I was like wait a minute this stuff didn't happen... Lol but then I cought after a few minutes and realized its just a story from someones mind... But, it's a Damn good story. The whole like actual war footage is what threw my ass dafak off lols
@thewatcher623 жыл бұрын
If you want alternate history that already in the cinema. Watch Man in the high castle.
@rvostudio3903 жыл бұрын
Yea they made men in the high castle i think if it a seeious than people would watch it
@junkiexl86 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for all the time and effort you put into this. Was very well done and thought provoking
@Gimmik2733 жыл бұрын
This is way better than any ww2 movie ive watched, can't wait for the Cold War episode!
@DonaldMcNuGGeT3 жыл бұрын
Well you’re gonna have to wait Vietnam came before the cold war really picked up steam
@leifhorn49093 жыл бұрын
This was honestly one of the best alternate history videos I have EVER seen, and I watch a LOT! It was so very realistic, and entirely plausible! Thank you so much for this video, and keep up the excellent work!
@starmnsixty12093 жыл бұрын
Except for leaving the Soviets largely intact, and going THAT easy on the Brits...
@lieutenantjoltinator43703 жыл бұрын
I love how this alternative history is told as if it has happened
@Sun-Tzu-3 жыл бұрын
I feel so sorry for you that you think this is possible never mind plausible...
@jamesmchernry77593 жыл бұрын
The Nazi's will left wing National Socialist who also Allied with the Soviet Union at the beginning of World War II.
@dylan_vogel243 жыл бұрын
nice profile picture! 1. FCN 💪🏻❤️
@getimpaled34603 жыл бұрын
I watched all three episodes more than once, but I just need to watch the whole ideo
@crazmapping3 жыл бұрын
same
@APersonOnYouTubeX3 жыл бұрын
@@crazmapping first time here
@willymueller32783 жыл бұрын
You gotta be autta your mind !
@swarmsheppard6 ай бұрын
Very in depth and addictive videos this channel is under rated
@oliverstianhugaas74933 жыл бұрын
Incredibly underestimated alternative historian, this man has made several high quality scenarios but has been obscure. Always appreciate his videos.
@lovefrompraha2 жыл бұрын
Looking back at this again, it's hard to imagine any real tension in the axis powers following the war. With the allies it was easy because of the huge distance between the Soviets and the west, it was more of an alliance of mutual convenience. But in this, America and Germany straight up shared blood together for multiple years in multiple theaters, the high commands and governments spent years in rooms together planning campaigns, battles, trade deals, they were building each other's stuff, etc. It would be like the British and Americans not liking each other after the war in real life. Just doesn't compute for me
@jr-wn9yf2 жыл бұрын
could not agree more in this hypothetical
@MorokLeviathan2 жыл бұрын
Except that both the Germans and Americans would be superpowers on their own and thus conflict would be inevitable. Even the British and Americans in our own timeline clashed over the Suez despite the British being a declining power as well as being a "similar country" to the US, not to mention how rebellious France was despite fighting alongside the Americans and British as well, albeit on a much smaller scale. A militaristic, totalitarian Germany ruling most of Europe as well as parts of Africa and Asia would definitely have conflicting interests with the US and would definitely fight the US to preserve/have those interests, this is WWII Germany after all.
@lillyie2 жыл бұрын
@@MorokLeviathan its different in this alt timeline though. soviets could betray the west because they have the manpower, nukes and influence. germany pretty much got carried by their north american ally USA and hitler betraying them would be tantamount to suicide
@kevincronk79812 жыл бұрын
the most reasonable way that it could've happened is if the public really heard a lot about the holocaust. that would've turned public opinion enough that, in a democracy like the US, there would've been no choice but to go to (cold) war.
@QWERTY-gp8fd2 жыл бұрын
u assuming nazis would view americans as equal. where they have viled blacks not aryan race.
@urosmarkovic65353 жыл бұрын
You documentate this thought up history timeline like it happened for real, it sounded so believavle and real
@fs6206 Жыл бұрын
your channel is absolutely underrated. u make gr8 vids
@zvallid Жыл бұрын
thank you!
@yucelsifontes81843 жыл бұрын
This is absolute entertainment. Fantastic job on this, it must have been a ton of work but the story you’re telling is amazing!
@ryantaylor59483 жыл бұрын
I love this absolutely, but my only real critique besides the lend lease importance to Soviet Supply is the Sino-Japanese Front. ROC China was heavily factionistic and Chiang Chi-shek wouldn’t have attempted to surrender his national army, without an internalized threat. The Communists and Nationalists at this period would’ve most likely became more aggressive, due to the threats all around them. The Potential Guerrilla Warfare, even if a surrender is given to Britain(which I will say is the most realistic), would be almost impossible for the IJA, as in the war as a total, 2/3’s of the IJA were bogged down in stalemate with China. I’m highly skeptical that the Kuomintang, Warlords, and Communists would just have lessened capability to fight the Japanese, as mostly the Chinese United Front was practically already a Guerrilla War. The Soviet invasion of Xinjiang/Sinkiang is really the deciding factor here, as Communist Chinese feeling betrayed could be a more loyal and aligned to their Chinese brothers in arms, which could end up paving a more dangerous ROC. I just feel there are huge amounts of variables to assume China just throws down arms and to negate their actions effects on Japanese War Effort.
@bonkbonk4203 жыл бұрын
I thought of the same, but then again, it is essentially fiction, so suspension of disbelief came in midway through the video.
@canadiankewldude3 жыл бұрын
@@bonkbonk420 Try asking the real world powers. The *_World Bankers_* and their soldiers, the *_Freemasons._* Purse strings control the world governments.
@kennedytheretard9753 жыл бұрын
@@canadiankewldude I HATE THE ANTI-CHRIST, I HATE THE ANTI-CHRIST
@Elementalism3 жыл бұрын
What is your critique of lend\lease importance to Soviet supply?
@susandaniels97333 жыл бұрын
with britain being on the opposing side,I'm not sure that china could've held out as long as it did being surrounded on all sides,american help would've been all but impossible to send, especially with the loss of the philippines.
@Idk-bi2zs3 жыл бұрын
this man gave us 1hr video this is what i mean when i said he is the best
@The_HonchoАй бұрын
Japan: updating prewar designs of planes US: Creating the sun
@tomkjr13 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed this very much. Really gets you thinking about things the way they were compared to what might have been. I think that if Germany and the United States were together as allies in WWII, the outcome would have been more lopsided than this video depicted. Militarily, the two countries complimented each other quite well.
@michaeldietrich8523 жыл бұрын
No way the US would have worked with those mass-murderous. Get real.
@mastersamp91923 жыл бұрын
@@michaeldietrich852 US blaming for mass murders? Lmao
@tomkjr13 жыл бұрын
@@michaeldietrich852 The whole point of this video is what if. Get an idea for once.
@RalenSharr3 жыл бұрын
@@michaeldietrich852 like we didn't work with the russians?
@SanctusBacchus3 жыл бұрын
@@michaeldietrich852 lol, what an ignoramus
@karebear44853 жыл бұрын
Maybe in this timeline the tiger and panther tanks would actually get good transmissions from the US EDIT: wow guys thanks for the likes! Also, i dont know much about the Sherman, but they seemed to fit the role of medium tank well enough to be a good tank. I’m more of a german tank enthusiast myself, and when you match the Sherman up against tigers, panthers, and king tigers yeah they fall a bit short in the armor/armament catagories, but thats because all of those were basically heavy tanks by the allies standards.
@mitchellsmith46903 жыл бұрын
Our tanks weren't all that great...
@attackmaster5193 жыл бұрын
@@mitchellsmith4690 *laughs in M4 Sherman, easily the best blitzkrieg tank of the entire war*
@panzerlite81083 жыл бұрын
@@attackmaster519 Sherman with 88. Angled Tiger 1 Front armor and a actual practical use of a Tiger 2 and several other tanks. This truly has my mind on overdrive.
@Revener6663 жыл бұрын
Transmission? The transmissions where fine, the panther had a weak final drive though.
@mitchellsmith46903 жыл бұрын
@@attackmaster519 You need to study up on your history of armored vehicles...marginal gun until the Canadians put the 17 pounder on it, mediocre armor, high profile, nicknamed the Ronson...
@StockyLikeStockings3 жыл бұрын
"Japan is now within range of B-29 bombers" welp that's a wrap
@charlesbukowski98363 жыл бұрын
The 29 was a disaster... there are parts of the globe that have multiple wind shifts at increments of altitude and the 29 was reduced to low level fire bombing most of the time because the bombing site was useless at anything but lower altitude... and took a lot of casualties...
@wisenber3 жыл бұрын
@@charlesbukowski9836 "The 29 was a disaster.." Except it wasn't. Fire bombing is generally conducted at lower altitude. Fire bombing was used as it created more damage than concussive bombs. The sites weren't so much "useless" as there was little experience bombing from the jet stream. 300 planes lost compared B17 losses was trivial.
@josephking65153 жыл бұрын
Except if Japan was allied with Great Britain then the Japanese would have had access to their engine technology so the B-29 would have been in for a bit of a hard time. American aircraft carriers with their wooden decks would have still sunk whereas any British ones would had the bombs bouncing off them and stayed floating and fighting as the Japanese found out. With Japan on the "other" side, Russia wouldn't have kept so many troops in Siberia which could have then been committed to their Western (Germany's Eastern) Front.
@Cipher713 жыл бұрын
I legitimately snorted lmao
@yxada19983 жыл бұрын
@@charlesbukowski9836 High altitude was disaster for sure. The US was unaware that the jet stream even existed. That being said, the low level fire bombing campaign was devastating. In the end it was a massive success. So successful , in fact, there were no targets left to bomb.
@homeworld223 жыл бұрын
This is an intriguing scenario, bravo! Its like a HOI4 game taken off the historical setting. So the first big point of divergence here - Japan declaring war on the axis in 1940, is plausible enough. They were Britain's ally in WW1 after all. Its hard to see exactly what the Japanese would gain here (the Italian concession at Tianjin is hardly a prize). The British might permit them to occupy Vichy French Indochina and guarantee access to the oil supplies in the Dutch East Indies in return for their help against the Axis in the Atlantic and North Africa, though I doubt they'd have been happy about it. The next part - where the Japanese still carry out Pearl Harbor, is where I feel this scenario runs off the deep end a bit. In reality the British would be horrified by such an act. Faced with a choice between Japan and the USA as an ally, Churchill would never have chosen the former, even at the risk of Britain immediately losing its far east colonies. He would at least have renounce their alliance, quickly order the Japanese fleet and army units to depart, or outright have attacked them to help the USA. Events might have been a bit more plausible if there was a more gradual escalation to war, or outright American aggression. For instance, maybe Macarthur or some other trigger-happy American commander decides to provoke an incident around the Philippines, 'accidentally' bombing a Japanese ship like the Panay incident of 1937 but in reverse. The Japanese respond by mining Manilla Harbor and things escalate from there. A war between Britain and America in 1941 still seems very unlikely, but I like how you've explored the idea.
@Dredlock683 жыл бұрын
Yeah I agree with@homeworld22. In the video, while both Britain and America were at peace although on opposite sides with Japan, why would the US sink the British Ships? Even if they were carrying supplies for Japanese use. They would have just instructed them to turnaround as the British did to the American convoy near Sweden (in the video). A little bit of a stretch to go from lend-lease (the British were lobbying the Americans very hard to be more involved in both timelines) to War with one another. Although overall I did enjoy the video and realise you had to come up with something why the Americans would join the Axis side. The likely truth is America would have stayed neutral rather than enter a conflict with Germany against Britain. That in itself may have been enough to alter the outcome of the war.
@yisus46812 жыл бұрын
I agree, but he still did a good scenario on the japanese not only threatening to take all of the colonies but also cripple india and it's surroundings making them lose a lot, not just the small colonies in the far east (edit) and without it's allies, defending Africa would've been a nigh impossible challenge since at that point the USA were neutral and a lot of Americans were actually pro-nazi so it's not super far fetched
@nathangames15762 жыл бұрын
I agree. Let's say the Americans would have sunk those ships, it would most likely have been due to misidentification or stray shot, not intentional aggression. Even then, Churchill would not have wanted to declare war on the United States. That sort of move would not only remove any meaningful manufacture of weapons, ammo and equipment, it also would have opened a second front. I'm not sure what a more reasonable explanation would have been for this, but it is interesting to think about. Also, while the supply of oil from Britain would not have been able to replace the American means, it would have, at least, allowed some time for the Japanese to determine a more reliable source of oil, maybe even attacking the Soviet oil fields Germany had later on in the war. (I am only at 13:00 when writing this comment)
@kevinrayner58122 жыл бұрын
" Japan declaring war on the axis in 1940, is plausible enough. They were Britain's ally in WW1" So was Italy.
@Grandtrunk2 жыл бұрын
@@yisus4681 “A LOT of Americans were pro- Nazi? Where did you get this nonsense? There was a loud group of supporters but not numerically significant
@funnynotwitty Жыл бұрын
Very interesting alternate history. I do appreciate the effort that went in to it. This is the first video I have watched on this channel. I do hope it has only improved from here. Proofreading, proofreading, proofreading. Cheers and best of luck with all of your endeavors!
@Stargate4043 жыл бұрын
I liked this video a lot: high production quality and I can only imagine the hours, nay, days, of editing this took and how long it took to find the archival footage. Major hats off. If I could give one two areas of constructive criticism, I'd say that getting a better microphone for some of your speakers should be a top priority. The gentleman speaking towards the end has a pretty good microphone which makes the gap in audio quality very apparent when cutting to someone else. Also, a greater variety of background music would be appreciated. Other than that though, marvelous. As for my prediction after a victory? I'd say that the German government would collapse faster than the Soviet Union did in our timeline. Without war and with that many casualties along with similar purges over time, compared to the Americans more "live and let live" policy to the Japanese and British in addition to the Marshal Plan would probably put the U.S. in the lead for several decades, strengthening it's allies, while the Germans would be distrustful of their Eastern Allies, wanting to see them colonized by German folk and actively purging the slavs.
@cheapme18503 жыл бұрын
I would believe Detroit would have been one of the first US cities attacked due to the industrial presence, including auto factories changed over to bomber and tank production. Plus you add in Henry Ford’s alleged sympathy towards Nazi Germany. Conversely, the US would have likely taken Windsor which is separated by Detroit by the mile wide river, and Windsor is the gateway to Toronto, which would also have been pinched by an assault from Buffalo. That would have knocked out a huge portion of Canada’s power production.
@frankfalcone27843 жыл бұрын
You
@GGAllinsCorpse3 жыл бұрын
I drive by the old tank plant everyday on my way to buy drugs
@complimentbot70153 жыл бұрын
you're black shut up
@nicholas.e51583 жыл бұрын
@@complimentbot7015 your white you belong in the mountains!
@complimentbot70153 жыл бұрын
@@nicholas.e5158 no I'm not. You're* btw
@beedubs1003 жыл бұрын
This sounds like a game of Hearts of Iron IV read out loud.
@snaymer18583 жыл бұрын
with non-historical focus
@ham4da3 жыл бұрын
@@snaymer1858 Why so?
@snaymer18583 жыл бұрын
@@ham4da Because the historical focus of the United States will never conclude an alliance with Germany, it's history.
@apex_blue3 жыл бұрын
@@snaymer1858 I mean they did ally with the soviets so it's not that hard to believe.
@raaid723 жыл бұрын
@@apex_blue no with historical ai focus the ai would focus mainly on what happened historically
@ConflictofNationsGamer Жыл бұрын
I have been watching this video over and over again, Amazing job Zvallid!
@catalyst99553 жыл бұрын
another hour log video to sink my time into thank you for making such fantastic content zvallid!
@colbykitto45973 жыл бұрын
57:50, thank you, someone actually acknowledges the atrocities of Stalin.
@rhylin263 жыл бұрын
"To the victor goes the history books," unfortunately. Always happy to see Stalin called out for his shit. Never forget.
@mastersamp91923 жыл бұрын
@@rhylin26 I hate how everybody blames Germany for the holocaust but nobody talks about the other atrocities made by the allies like the famine of India by the UK, all the sh*t than the URSS made in Europe, how USA drop two of the most letal weapons in the history and other things
@NicholasSteMarie3 жыл бұрын
@@mastersamp9192 I mean Germany is to blame for the Holocaust
@b.l.97643 жыл бұрын
And that wasn't even the half of it.
@lukasm89903 жыл бұрын
@Mason Murchison When did the US give Germany weapons, protection, vehicles and other stuff during WW2? Or are you talking about West Germany after the war?
@bobsmith-ph6gu2 жыл бұрын
I like your story, although some bits are a bit of a stretch, such as America going to war with Britain, but is not really that big of a deal. However the one big problem I have with it is the end result. Despite essentially being the masters of the world, alongside the United States, Italy and Germany take relatively little in the way of territory. It makes sense in our timeline, with the democratic countries condemning war for conquest in Europe, but for fascist Italy and Germany that would be no problem, Mussolini even proclaimed that he wanted to reestablish the Roman empire. Additionally Hitler despised the Soviets, yet in this he basically ends war with them with only relatively minor concessions.
@misterwhipple2870 Жыл бұрын
Adolf would have taken ALL of European Russia right up to the Urals, and probably demanded Iran and Saudi Arabia. He would have been swimming in oil.
@SoVega301 Жыл бұрын
I think Germans would take atleast all the land on the west side of Urals And Italians would take all of north african colonies
@V.W.Austerlitz Жыл бұрын
Well, in both timelines, the Soviets were pushing the Germans back slowly but surely. Plus, the only reason the USA joined the Axis in this video was bascause of Japan's alliance with Britain and the Soviets. Japan and America were going to war with each other anyway, and that would have inevitably led to war with Japan's allies, whether it be Germany/Italy or Britain/USSR
@colder5465 Жыл бұрын
I think you greatly underestimate the factor of continental hegemony. It'd be a totally new dimension.
@benn1s Жыл бұрын
@@anglozoomer there was that treaty with Poland that lead to war too.
@justinmorgan4568 Жыл бұрын
I didn't realize how bizarre this alternative reality was until the point where American B-17s were bombing British cities... So hard to fathom. But this is such an amazing what if video.
@archosauropre-historico87083 жыл бұрын
The battle of bermuda was such a thrill, even tought that is a report, is like watching a roulette, hoping for the best.
@wmichael782 жыл бұрын
Fascinating. I love alternate timelines! Well done.
@richmondfernandez96153 жыл бұрын
When you missclick and join axis instead of allies belike:
@Haggysack2k83 жыл бұрын
"Nah shit, now i just created a real mess, my gawd... Okay, how can i undo this? What, you can't undo this?! F*ck... Whatever, it's fine then we go to war on Axis side, still wished to have the brits as allies, but you can't have everything and war never changes, so might as well make the best out of it." US: *Watching the germans use their first V2 rockets* US: "Hoho, now THIS looks interesting! Maybe this isn't so bad after all." Every and all moral standards are thrown out the window after that and everything goes completely south...
@Dadwar_Real Жыл бұрын
the US joining the Axis was so seamless from real history I was for a sec like "ayo hold up did the Americans actually join the Axis?"
@pleaseenteraname15179 ай бұрын
And British was almost fasist or had a fasist leader only lost by 70 votes