We Review A BRAND NEW Game Table Design!

[@MrBhogue]

As the customer in question, I’m really appreciating all the comments on the direction of the design, and several have even pointed out things that I hadn’t considered such as the end rails being rendered a little useless with the topper on, and the topper edges taper being reversed. The involvement of the Wyrmwood fans, and how the Wyrmwood team engages with their clients is one of the reasons why I approached them about this build versus going in another direction. Thank you to everyone on here providing feedback, and to the Wyrmwood team for dedicating this time to an amazing looking mockup.

[@the13th]

It's always interesting to hear feedback and concerns you hadn't considered when coming up with an idea

[@yochva]

I appreciate how Doug and the design team displayed their knowledge of furniture designers and construction - we don't see that often.

[@MrTime2Spare]

Alright Doug, chill with your anonymous accounts.

[@yochva]

@MrTime2Spare 😂

[@thompsonadam80]

You guys should have a few of the masters have a contest to make tables from different eras of furniture from spare MTG parts. Get the creativity flowing for newer products

[@RyanSSmith]

This is a great idea and would probably be a very popular video series for them.

[@HandlebarWorkshops]

I'm glad Ian addressed the splayed leg aesthetic. Most mid century modern table tops had quite the overhang to address the trip hazard of splayed legs that Ian also brought up. So having that topper piece with a large overhang is right on point with the look. Too bad they're not looking to stabilize that aspect but change it altogether, but I understand due to the limitations of function over form in this case.

[@thorin01]

I can see a couple of possible ways to stabilize the toppers but they have serious drawbacks. 1 - Increase the size of the topper so proportionately less is hanging over. But that renders most of the existing topper storage solutions useless. It also makes toppers far heavier and more unwieldy. Plus, new parts as opposed to repurposed parts. 2 - Attach stabilizing bars (2-3), Something attached to the topper that slots into the rail system. That also requires building new parts. That also detracts from the mid-century modern look. 3 - Find a way to lock the toppers together that’s stronger than the magnets. That would require a complete redesign of the toppers. As you noted, the vault and its functionality is antithetical to the the aesthetic.

[@ghomerhust]

i totally get how someone in a 1950s era-built home would want something like that. ive had thrift furniture from that design aspect, and if you have everything from that era, it does have a really cool vibe.

[@vualex48]

With Troy’s reaction, I’m curious how Wyrmwood’s non-woodworkers’ and woodworkers’ tastes are in design vs. function vs. manufacturability

[@tazmon122]

mid-century modern is boomer nostalgia bait....i just think Troy doesn't go in for that.

[@chrisprovince6607]

Troy with the Hard No and Doug's Reaction Priceless.

[@hebie666]

Near the end you touched on making the apron look slimmer would be more true to the mcm aesthetic but obviously being limited by the fact that there's a vault in there. Adding a 45 bevel along the bottom edge of the apron would help a lot in visually slimming it down imo, its common to see it on table tops/sheleves for the same reason.

[@Matt-pz4we]

I feel like mid century would have all of the topper bevels rounded as they waterfall off the edges vs. the sharp angular lines. Though in order to look right the toppers would likely have to be much thinner than they are. I’d do flat end toppers with the curved corners, something I wish had been available when I ordered my MGT 2.0.

[@cotanaj]

Love the brass ferrules and the mid century aesthetic. Make sure to have any accessories that have metal pieces to be also offered in brass for a cohesive material package. Imo the more "Maloof" the design can get away with while remaining modular (and not exploding you manufacturing SKU count) the more it communicates design intent vs. an after thought modification to the previous design. Excellent session gentlemen!

[@heroclix0rz]

As someone who has an mgt and lives in a midcentury modern house and would love it if more of my furniture fit that era, i think the tiny thin legs look silly with the chonky vault. Looks like one of those cartoon opera singers with the huge torso and tiny twig legs on stilettos.

[@richardcrawford3315]

If it’s a mid-century take on MGT, the tapered topper should be flipped to give it a shark nose which would lighten up the edge.

[@matt-lang]

Good point; it would also visually make the topper look larger so they may not need to add any extra overhang.

[@kelpklepto]

would that not significantly affect the stability? Just putting a hand down on an end piece would basically make it flip like a skateboard

[@daver2652]

Regarding the curve at the end...Wyrmwood used to frequently reference the "prophecy" curve that was often duplicated in other furniture and accessories. It is a more subtle curve that might work well without hanging over as much. Would likely still have the accessory/magnetic rail issue that others have mentioned, but it would still be nice to see a version with this approach.

[@Oxblood1987]

You should make the end toppers longer, remove 1 middle topper panel, and split that into the ends to remove some of the curve leverage. Also, if you build the curve to cover over the clipped end, then it won't be an issue.

[@Comicsluvr]

I can appreciate that Ian left the tops of the legs the same. No new holes to drill. No new hardware. No concerns about joint strength. Well done!

[@the13th]

A table with 4 different legs has no right looking this good. Absolutely brilliant work and well done on picking the right leg.

[@heatherheardwhat1103]

I love the idea of offering different styles of legs and toppers for the standard table. I think you should expand this concept to offer other designs beyond Mid Century Modern. I love the MGT concept, but dislike the look / style. Slight alternations to your standard pieces could expand your customer base. I know it would make me more willing to make a purchase.

[@ckartsonis]

Add a curve to the side rail underneath the curved topper, give it more support and will look more modern with the toppers off

[@tank7737]

I'm with Troy I would love to see a farmhouse tressel before mid-century modern

[@BurningSleepy38]

That curved topper makes the magnetic rail completely useless on the ends of the table... how did they miss that??

[@WyrmLyfe]

You're likely not using the magnetic rail with the topper on but...yea, we missed that 😂

[@FrozenThai]

Does it really matter though? Only the ends, AND when the toppers are on. Still works fine with no toppers, and with toppers on you can place items on top like a regular table.

[@BurningSleepy38]

@@WyrmLyfe Your point is valid but games/crafts can still be done while the toppers are on. That's one of the selling points of the table is that multiple games can be set up at once, one dormant underneath and one being played on top where the magnetic accessories can still be used. Yeah it's only the ends of the table but that's likely the DM, where accessories are even more important. Hopefully a tighter curve fixes that!

[@michaelbaker2718]

@@BurningSleepy38 Honestly, that seems like a choice the buyer would have to make. If you plan to use accessories on the end of the table with the toppers on, then this option would not be for you.

[@albryno]

@@WyrmLyfe I've had my MGT for a few years now. There is almost always drink holders on the end with the tops on. That said, it's a sacrifice I might have considered if I wanted to go with the Mid Century Modern. Love the idea of doing this. Design isn't there yet for me but could be really good with some tweaks and refinement.

[@DanKlein1]

Gimme more Ian and Jason talking about woodworking/designing for production, and less Doug about anything.

[@Lavasioth]

Haven't watched the epidsode. But Jason is in the thumbnail so please more videos of whatever this is.

[@sindex]

Maybe it's not perfect, but a simple "undercarriage" support chuck in the magnetic rail would keep the rounded topper from popping with downward force.

[@RyanSSmith]

As someone who loves midcentury and most of my furniture and decoration is from that era I LOVE that Wyrmwood is looking at making this a new option. I’ve always wanted a table but felt the design wouldn’t match the rest of the house. This would be a game changer for me!

[@matt-lang]

I really like the design changes. It elevates the table pretty significantly and would match my home's aesthetic much better overall.

[@zacharymoses2743]

If the customer wanted a big curve to help with the leverage of the overhang you could include a cornice or bracket option the locks into the magnetic rail so it is removable when the toppers are not in use. As a thought. The above being said I saw some worried about the outside magnetic rail not being usable. You could design this support piece to be a boxed out faux aprons with magnetic rails in them. This could allow for the use of the outside rail with the toppers on. Additionally, if its profile and dimensions were right the end faux aprons could still be useful as a middle divider inside the vault while it is in use.

[@rayaubin]

Troy repping the Pawsox hat!!! Love it!!

[@SangriaSamurai]

Not a MCM fan, but I think anything that helps expand the product reach is a good thing..

[@sggee]

Ive always wanted 1 of your tables but i wanted a mid century modern style. 1 of wyrmwoods competitors make it but similar to this video i wasnt sold on the quality and features. Super stoked that you guys are going down this avenue… hopefully you can find a way to use your existing with minimal tweaks/fixes.

[@alexanderdildine7440]

A midcentury modern version of this table might just push this to the top of the spending budget. HUGE selling point for my wife and I. Absolutely look forward to having this possibly as an option, and I will be showing my wife as soon as it’s done.

[@gargonovich]

I like the Maloof leg idea. If it's only offered through the custom shop, why not make it the best it can be and charge for it accordingly?

[@wisdombeyondyears]

I’m actually working on designing maloof style joinery for CNC. It’s a challenge and a half but finding that balance of where the CNC stops and the handwork starts is so satisfying.

[@JordanTersteeg]

I would consider using the same curves rails from the prophecy, but make them shorter.

[@Old_Wizard_Minis]

Loved the corners and in agreement on the leg. Going forward offer the "dwarven style" traditional, squared, hard edges and the "elven style" mid century, flowing, softer edges.

[@schwachoochoo]

I really like the soft curves of the topper corners, as well as the tops of the legs leading into the apron. The overhang makes me anxious. The optical illusion of the massive table floating on the tapered legs is surreal.

[@henriksorensen82]

I love it, it's just a shame I'm a poor nerd and I live in Norway, because it's going to be unbelievably expensive to get your table here with taxes and other expenses. Then I wish the vault was 4x6 feet so I could play Warhammer. But your table is without any competition the most beautiful gaming table on the market.

[@boblemedieval]

Really like this idea, that seems like a great way to dress up your flagship product in a meaningful and efficient way! Can’t wait to have a larger apartment to fit one of your table, as I play wargames and I’d love the ease of use I currently don’t have!

[@chrislenahan8179]

Great work guys. If you do go with the lipped toppers, I think a center support that goes into the magnetic rail could knock that out of the park. Keep it up!

[@moutonrustique]

The building reviews / exposes are a+ content. Really like them.

[@stcgamesiplay3786]

I love the look of it, it is very classy. my problem is i have 6 feral children that don't know how to walk past or sit down with out ramming or power slamming down on it so i could just see one of those legs snaping at my house. just to preface i had to replace 2 couches in 3 years so i build and upholstered my own out of dimensional lumber so they couldn't break it. 5 years later and hundreds of flying belly flops onto it, it stands strong. but back to your table i love it i think in the right home it will do amazing and everyone has there own esthetic. even if it wouldn't look good or work in my home i think its a great idea and love that you all are willing to do this level of customization. My thought on the overhang is i like the large curve so why not make a double wide toper peace for the ends? then it has more leverage to not get lifted off.

[@CraigAWSellars]

I appreciate the effort and I hope the client likes it, but I agree that there is a limit because they are fundamentally different designs. It would be interesting to see the next custom table in mid-century modern and explore how far you could actually go in a different style. As always, well done and thank you.

[@philliplevine9167]

you could add a bracket to the large cured one that locks into the magnetic rail, it would also could have its own magnetic rail added to that curved topper end to make that end useful with attachments

[@michaelbaker2718]

I was thinking along the same lines to support the curve. I don't think it's practical to add rails to the end regardless as the curve renders most of the accessories irrelevant.

[@killersquirel11]

The substantial tabletop floating on top of mid century modern legs invokes the image of a gym bro who always skips leg day

[@Awol991]

To support the extra overhang the end pieces could lock into the inside rail. This would make it a little difficult to insert the last, non-end topper as the end pieces would not then be able to be last. But doing the "last topper" as 2 center pieces tented might make the squeeze work.

[@lewiscullerton2151]

I have been looking for a mid century gaming table for about 2 years and was actually debating making one myself. However if Wyrmwood are now making them, I guess I can wait a little longer haha

[@petertratechaud7277]

Love the curved topper with the curved corners. I would like to see that curve transitioned down to the rail and top of the leg instead of the bevels, with the shoulder like on the first example leg, then down to a turned rounded leg, but of a much less taper. Like double the diameter Ian had with just a tiny bit of inside-out taper. Yes, it is not mid-century modern, but I'd say a softer look than all the 45 degree edges.

[@ibscarface]

I love the maloof idea.. couldn't you layout the leg radius to terminate into the rail depth? Obviously wouldn't be flawless, but could still mimic the intent. On that note, new machine (6 axis CNC) and Dale episodes?

[@RainwaterGames]

The end (curved) topper needs to be wider. That would help with it being too tippy because more of the topper would be on the table. So maybe try making those two wider but going with one less middle topper to make up for it.

[@jonevansauthor]

I hope we get to see video of the eccentric turning at some point - that sounds cool and difficult. Plus we don't really see much turning from Wyrmwood.

[@opmaus]

I personally do not like mid-century modern as a style, but it is very interesting to hear the design discussions.

[@Ponninftw]

Curved end topper with a curved apron to add that support would be lit af. That curved apron could either extend the vault or just be a mini-vault. Even better, make 6 holes around the table, put some nice baskets in and woops, pool table :o

[@ericburke3223]

Jason rocking that LL Bean Sweater. Nice

[@timvaughan3308]

Team subtle curve and rounded corner here. Also would like to see, for arguments sake, a very gentle curve on the long sides of the table. However the leg I think is most strong and, most true to MCM, is the pure tapered cylinder.

[@Saintvallen]

Take non-curved topper, turn it upside down, and make it a few inches wider. You get the angle beneath and it's very mid-century

[@bryonpope4622]

Not a woodworker, but will the thin legs still provide good support? Should the legs be a bit thicker, but still tapered? As the table is quite heavy, would moving it cause those thin legs to possibly break?

[@GammerBooy]

This is so cool

[@vyktamus]

Best edit of all time @11:45

[@Ace2020boyd]

I currently have a mini coffee table and recently did a puzzle in it and boy not many puzzles fit. 15.5" L x 24" W just squeezed it in there. If I could get a custom apron get the vault a little more to fit more common puzzle size that is still under the next table size. like a 20" x 28" I would put that order in. Realistically that mini should be half the vault size of a small table.

[@WyrmLyfe]

You can have this done through our custom shop.

[@JDPENNER]

Ah Yes, the classic Ikea High Chair tripping Hazard 😂 after 2 years im Not used to it

[@arceye89]

How does the curve effect the use of the magnetic rail?

[@muttshouse]

I love the idea of a midcentury modern table. Hate a tapered leg that sticks out. The leg that all the men seem to love looks like an AI designed mess to me. I like the classic hard edge cap on the apron. Love the cut off corners for the topper ends. Can we get those for our kickstarter tables?

[@Als799]

Do you think having a bevel of about 1 to 2 inches along the long side of the table toppers would improve the look? Make it a bit more oval than square edges with the ends rounded.

[@hoofrog]

The curved topper could also interfere with the mag rail accessories correct? Some accessories may not be compatible.

[@LemonsOnFire]

Very curious to see if the rounded corner toppers will come to the mgt shop. I would be interested in a rounded corner version of the topper for my table.

[@overkillgarage9659]

Weird question but if you dont mind disclosing what do you guys use as a sealer and a varnish? Im having a problem where my sealer isnt bonding with the varnish and the varnish is chipping off

[@wahkeen2]

I don't think mid century bits on a table that needs such a chonky apron will ever work.

[@newlife5896]

Had a dream last night wyrmwood had an all-nighter old console gaming night in the factory, but then Matt, Season 3 Bobby and myself went on a search for the secret gnome who was hiding in the factory that has been causing the issues that delay production. Apparently Wyrmwood is housing like 10 different terrifying entities in their building.. long story short - i did not sleep much last night

[@WyrmLyfe]

Maybe you saw The Effigy or The Supershipper? I know both of those can affect your dreams. As long as you didn't actually -look- at The Supershipper in your dream you should be fine!

[@newlife5896]

@@WyrmLyfe ........ as long as i didn't.. yeah... sure.. **sweats** recalling the horrifying monstrosity lurking under Bennet's table (You're all amazing. Still waiting on the po**hub shirt collab)

[@Anthony-H]

Sam Maloof reference in a Wyrmwood video was definitely NOT on my bingo card.

[@AB-ke2lw]

I think that theres a lot of visual weight to the depth of the table. This could be remedied a little bit if the "tub" went more aerodynamic. Instead of I___I it could be angled \___/. However that may go too far away from the core design pieces

[@d_dave7200]

I like the design, though tbh this was a bit of a rare editing fail. I never felt confident about the differences between the designs and in one case they pointed at a leg and I couldn't see which one it was. I do love these kinds of design discussions though.

[@VagabondTE]

I like the leg with the indent the most. Maloof is a great designer but you guys make MODULAR tables. Make it easy for youselfes. Focus on modular designs as well so different parts all look good together. I would love to see a shaped but still four sided leg. That would be an excellent option for your tables but waaay easyer. Heck, even just different bevel options for legs. Play to your strengths.

[@wisdombeyondyears]

So I had an off topic question. Are hand planes used in any of your departments? I’m assuming for prototypes or custom work.

[@jackcampbell4465]

Oh shit! I love it! I hate you guys. 😉 😘 I was not going to make a big purchase until you finally produce display cabinets but this aesthetic is SO my house.

[@DanielBlak]

This is definitely something that would make you stand out from the other guys.

[@EnigmaFilms1990]

Question: What are the upper limits of change? I can see the Ghost of Keystone Legacy with all the legs they used to have

[@FishAreWaterBirds]

Mid Century Modular

[@WyrmLyfe]

Nice

[@TrojanManSCP]

Every dad here felt that highchair issue in his toes. I hate that damn thing.

[@magome16]

The curve makes the end of the table look farmhouse not mid century. The curved corners though are really nice. I would be totally wanting to buy the legs as I already have a small and really the legs are the only thing i dont like

[@Farstr1d3r]

Googled Sam Maloof….info nuggets like this are part of what makes Wyrmlife interesting. Maloof’s deisgnwork looks like it should be in a Elven living room. Gorgeous stuff.

[@mustangcobra1994]

I would be interested in a mid-century modern conversion kit for my lilliput.

[@rexwells9458]

why not just make the end toppers larger, the size of 2 current toppers to reduce the leverage point, while still being able to have a nice curve

[@aaronk6496]

Oh man. I've never been happy that I haven't bought my table yet. Until now.

[@TomDavidsonTheGreatAndPowerful]

Now give me a two-pillar pedestal table and I'll buy another one. :)

[@LanceKirkman]

Fun table!!!

[@usaevo8]

This is an awesome episode. Learned something new and got great insight. Wyrmlyfe win!

[@spacingguild]

The tables with denser wood is going to be too heavy for those turned legs. Not enough surface area at the bottom to spread out the weight.

[@joshh828]

I would buy the 2 topper ends. I still like the standard legs. I don't care about losing the end magrails while the topper is on. This comment is for customer opinion data.

[@RALLIR]

Slightly less taper to the legs those things don't look like they would handle many push pulls of the table not that you should move a table that way but designed to last even when abused is good

[@mgbaron]

Wyrmwood Dresden copy?

[@TonySantus-o3j]

Have you tried the new end toppers with the topper block ? Not sure they'll fit into it...

[@ChapterGrim]

The fact that the table was "floating" messed with my perception for a bit... 😅🤣

[@ChapterGrim]

This reminds me how little I know about furniture... 😂

[@ChapterGrim]

At least beyond the structural malarkey etc...

[@ZemogNaes]

Meh. This table needs more than what they are proposing in order to make it truly MCM style. 1. Bring the end apron DOWN at the ends (NOT UP in the middle) to form the Maloof arch with the table legs. Yes, this means another part variant. BUT you aren't going to introduce a new design without adding variants. 2. Although spindle legs are a styling cue for MCM, you don't have to. Instead just taper the two interior sides of each of the legs, and on the side of the legs where they meet the end aprons, have the taper flow into the arched apron mentioned in #1 above. This will look much more MCM and will echo the rounded topper.

[@Uncle_Retro84]

Need more Ian and Jason episodes. Is it just me or does Jason look like Joss Whedon?

[@pauldekoninck5381]

I was partial to the first leg but the second was fine, love that curve tho!

[@roonsword]

Y'all should call it the Sojourn.

[@paulsinchuk4198]

I think squared tapered legs would look better than look better but I'm not a huge fan of the round taper legs.

[@dirigoallagash3464]

Aren't you guys in Tauton? This has Fine Woodworking collab written all over it.

[@richarddean1333]

me i love the curve topper and the curved edge as for the legs the one thats like a club top then curves down me personally i like the squared top but with a slight curve to it so it taKES THE ROUGH LOOK Out if the leg went from lets say 4inch down to a inch and half taper it would look better to me but i like bulker looking items legs but thats my opinion the curve topper looks better to me gives it that look and as far as the topper coming off just add three longer pins to stop the opps factor

[@lukeVmcneese]

Looks great love content like this

[@Celvinbell]

No way you could have added 4 seconds to the video for the perfect length?