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@keysersoze8110
@keysersoze8110 Ай бұрын
The biggest “suspension of disbelief” problem the X-Men films have is that we’re supposed to believe that Jennifer Lawrence or Rebecca Romijn are somehow not attractive when they’re blue…
@Blynat
@Blynat Ай бұрын
Found the fury LOL
@JudesFerry3269
@JudesFerry3269 Ай бұрын
AGREED!
@kingcaesar3693
@kingcaesar3693 Ай бұрын
@@Blynat Mystique isn't a furry. She's just blue and has yellow eyes in the comic. It's odd they added scales and took away her normally white outfit.
@OriginalPuro
@OriginalPuro Ай бұрын
@@Blynat What's "a fury"? Fury is related to violence, but what is "a" fury"?
@hkaayaakuu
@hkaayaakuu Ай бұрын
Rebecca maaaaaan awooooo
@MartinBeerbom
@MartinBeerbom Ай бұрын
I'm native German. Kevin Bacon clearly speaks phonetically, but it's the BEST phonetic German I have ever heard. He obviously had a coach, who taught him where the words and syllables really end (which doing wrong is usually the greatest giveaway that they speak phonetically without understanding.) Fassbender, of course, had a German father, so he understands German. He still has a weird accent. This is after Inglorious Basterds, the first movie where he spoke German, and he clearly trained in between Basterds and this one.
@PenneySounds
@PenneySounds Ай бұрын
He has a weird accent in English too. For the most part he tries to match McKellen's English accent, but his Irish keeps coming through, especially during his monologue on the Island at the end. Even without speaking either language, I can tell that Bacon put serious effort into both his German and Russian dialogue in this movie.
@salvadorlopezsalas8766
@salvadorlopezsalas8766 Ай бұрын
His accent is because he is from a little village near the Pitz Palü
@mnemonic1363
@mnemonic1363 Ай бұрын
​@@salvadorlopezsalas8766 came to say this you bastard 😂😂
@samhandwich4095
@samhandwich4095 Ай бұрын
@@salvadorlopezsalas8766 And his brother is far more handsome.
@OrderOfTheGash
@OrderOfTheGash Ай бұрын
How distinguishable is the accent? Is it like a German saying in English "put the pedal to the metal"?
@danzansandeev6033
@danzansandeev6033 Ай бұрын
20:10 hardness and strength are two different things. diamonds are hard but brittle, you can cut glass with diamond and you can smash it with a hammer
@AlexanderNash
@AlexanderNash Ай бұрын
b b but I thought diamond stronk!? 🤡
@MetastaticMaladies
@MetastaticMaladies Ай бұрын
Same thing believers in ancient “high technology” conspiracy theories misunderstand. They confuse hardness with the ability to sculpt rock or chisel stone, thinking that copper tools could not carve or cut into granite and other types of stone, just because it has a high “hardness” rating. It’s difficult to get them to understand the difference and so they never listen.
@danzansandeev6033
@danzansandeev6033 Ай бұрын
@@MetastaticMaladies i mean same conspiracy theorists think that earth is flat, expecting proper logical thinking from them is kinda stupid...
@pimpinken8901
@pimpinken8901 Ай бұрын
Also, it was never confirmed in the movie that It was actually diamond just something hard and similar
@Chris-eh8mi
@Chris-eh8mi Ай бұрын
@@MetastaticMaladies It is not impossible to carve stone like granite and diorite with copper, but the copper is eaten away at very quickly and the stone takes forever to carve and is extremely hard to work with. You don't have to believe in super/alien tech to rightly point out the issues with the standard narrative of quarrying and delicately carving very hard stone with copper tools. Certainly not in the conventionally accepted timelines for many monuments. There are many things that are very poorly explained currently and which only people without knowledge of materials science and engineering can so blindly accept. The waters are muddied by vultures who peddle pseudo-archeology for engagement on social media platforms, making real objections forced to be in bed with crackpottery.
@TMThesaurus
@TMThesaurus Ай бұрын
35:48 George showing his true Canadian form
@anthonytobin2337
@anthonytobin2337 Ай бұрын
As a comic reader, the hardest part of all the Fox movies is how far they strayed from the comics. I think the only reason Mystique was in this was because she was in the first 3 movies. In the comics she’s Nightcrawler’s biological mom and Rogue’s adopted mom but the movies never mention that.
@deadbynightupbylunch
@deadbynightupbylunch Ай бұрын
And the mother of Graydon Creed who would grow up to try and destroy mutant kind.
@jemal999
@jemal999 Ай бұрын
Which comics are you referring to? The 80s comics where she had no connection to Nightcrawler aside from both being blue? The 90s when Nightcrawler's parents were mystique and Baron Wagner? The 2000s where his father got rectonned to be the Demon Azazel? Last years X-men: Blue origins where it was 'explained' that Mystique is NOT his mother, she's actually his Father, and she shapeshifted into an amalgamation of Baron Wagner and Azazel to impregnate Destiny, who's *actually* his mother? And those are all just in the 'main' marvel universe, not counting the literal hundreds of alternate timelines where stuff happens differnetly. As a long time comic reader myself, it always baffles me when people chide something for being 'different from the comics', when most of the comics themselves are different from the comics. Retcons, alternate universes, different writers... The stories, backgrounds, and lore of characters change all the time. I can guarantee you couldn't find a single issue of a single comic book in Marvel's entire history that doesn't have at least one other issue that contradicts it. The important basics remain the same, but the details change. The movies just did that same thing again.
@brentjones9323
@brentjones9323 Ай бұрын
When George says "its sad knowing that they are on opposing sides later down the road", he isn't wrong. However, even though they are on opposing sides there was always the mutual respect between them. They play chess while Magneto is in jail, they go to Jean's house again together, and even after Charles died in X3, Magneto reprimanded another mutant for insulting Charles. So even though they end up on opposing sides of the war, the respect they had for each other never left in my opinion.
@mikegoodwin2386
@mikegoodwin2386 Ай бұрын
They both wanted what was best for mutants and each knew that about the other. They just had very different views of what is best for mutants.
@brianvernon249
@brianvernon249 Ай бұрын
“Another mutant” 🤣 As Wolverine said: “Not everyone gets a speech.” What Pyro did to Johnny was humiliating.
@johnchrysostomon6284
@johnchrysostomon6284 Ай бұрын
"They grew up together... Why does she have an American accent?" They're in NEW YORK The question should be why does Charles continue to have a British accent ?
@Eleutherios1
@Eleutherios1 Ай бұрын
His parents are British, his nannies and butlers are probably British, he doesn't have any friends, he went to Oxford for years.. probably went to some fancy grade school with British teachers. There are some plausible reasons he could maintain his accent.. or that it would reemerge living in London during University. Its also just a movie about mutants with super powers, a bunch of stuff doesn't make sense.
@timr6318
@timr6318 Ай бұрын
Yeah, I assume they just don't know West Chester is just outside NYC.
@Lia-zw1ls7tz7o
@Lia-zw1ls7tz7o Ай бұрын
@@Eleutherios1 It certainly makes more sense than his bad Russian. Charles is a telepath, she should be able to flawlessly learn other languages in seconds.
@Vaishino
@Vaishino Ай бұрын
To answer the question "is it accurate to comic lore that Charles and Mystique grew up together" I'll just say by the time Charles was born Mystique was already an adult and married to a Sherlock Holmes character
@pablochian1439
@pablochian1439 Ай бұрын
It would have to be Cain Marco (Juggernaut) / Charles, not Mystique...
@valeria262
@valeria262 Ай бұрын
They also got married briefly to each other, not sure if that was before or after first class already existed though
@jemal999
@jemal999 Ай бұрын
To be fair, to answer any "is it accurate to comic lore' question, the answer is usually "maybe, depends on which comic you look to for answers'. In this case, I don't recall them having a history together in any of the comics I've read, but then again, Mystique wasn't Nightcrawlers mother until they decided she was. And then 25 years later, they decided "no mystique's not his mother. She's actually his father". Retconns happen all the time in comics, so it makes perfect sense for them to happen in the Alternate-universe movies based on those comics.
@FiggityJones
@FiggityJones Ай бұрын
When it comes to FoX-Men and comic accuracy, generally my rule is: always assume it isn’t and be pleasantly surprised when it is. Because it so rarely is. Even in the enjoyable ones.
@kyonizuka
@kyonizuka Ай бұрын
right? this movie alone, scott summers younger brother somehow being involved? mystique and charles growing up together? darwin dying? the reason for charles losing his ability to walk etc etc its like they were trying to be as inaccurate as possible.
@jlilley73
@jlilley73 Ай бұрын
The only thing that really bugs me is the idea of Xavier and Mystique growing up together, and hence her being a "good guy" through most of the prequels. Everything else is just details to me; overall the movie captures the spirit of the comics and characters, and the different interpretations put an interesting spin on it.
@jemal999
@jemal999 Ай бұрын
To be fair, most comics aren't 'comic accurate'. There've been so many retconns and different writers that you couldn't find a single Issue in Marvel's history that isn't contradicted by at least one other issue.
@mistercard3599
@mistercard3599 Ай бұрын
“Emma” from Wolverine and Emma Frost from this movie are technically two separate characters granted that was never the original concept, but they botched their own canon so badly that the only way to really accept those two characters is to consider them two separate characters.
@LearnToRefine
@LearnToRefine Ай бұрын
The character from the Wolverine Origins movie was DIAMOND LIL, not Emma Frost
@thewerewolff7248
@thewerewolff7248 Ай бұрын
In general this is the movie that truly starts the trend of not caring about continuity. This movie almost goes out of its way to contradict everything we’re told and shown in the original trilogy about Charles and Eric’s history other than that they were friends
@mistercard3599
@mistercard3599 Ай бұрын
@@LearnToRefine they called her Emma, by all accounts the attempt was to make her Emma Frost, but it never actually took
@MatthewMortensen1
@MatthewMortensen1 Ай бұрын
If you're going to make a sequel It helps to watch the previous films.
@biguy617
@biguy617 Ай бұрын
Lol
@-M0LE
@-M0LE Ай бұрын
The wolverine cameo is comedy perfection The timing was so good
@clayjohanson
@clayjohanson Ай бұрын
And it will be mentioned again later.
@Blynat
@Blynat Ай бұрын
Oliver Platt is great. I wish he was still in more movies. He is really funny and good at comic relief but also dramatic heart warming moments as well. He is underrated in my book.
@Eidlones
@Eidlones Ай бұрын
He's got a real natural charisma, and can handle most roles you throw at him. I really wish he got bigger in the industry (tho maybe he's perfectly fine where he is and didn't care about getting better/more roles)
@darkzer0670
@darkzer0670 Ай бұрын
Lake Placid 😄
@LordVolkov
@LordVolkov Ай бұрын
He's so funny in the Heath Ledger Casanova.
@bloodymarvelous4790
@bloodymarvelous4790 Ай бұрын
@@LordVolkov Also really funny in A Time to Kill and The West Wing with his big hammer.
@dnish6673
@dnish6673 Ай бұрын
Steady work in TV attracted him. Chicago Med and The Bear.
@minski76
@minski76 Ай бұрын
20:11 Hardness and brittleness are actually two different things. Diamonds are the hardest material there is, so you can cut glass with them. That doesn't mean they won't shatter into pieces if you hit them hard enough, they're still crystals and respond to impacts by fracturing.
@CosmicLightSkin
@CosmicLightSkin 2 ай бұрын
5:40 don't worry about the continuity issues. It's a fool's errand trying to figure out the mangled timeline of these movies 😂
@sproductionsinc
@sproductionsinc Ай бұрын
The next movie works it out.
@iampotsataja
@iampotsataja Ай бұрын
And the movies after that make it way worse 😂 ​@@sproductionsinc
@PLaStiiCMoNtAGE
@PLaStiiCMoNtAGE Ай бұрын
@@sproductionsinc no it doesnt lmao. Days of future past may "fix" some things but it also creates more problems
@ImAlsoMerobiba
@ImAlsoMerobiba Ай бұрын
​​@@sproductionsinc the next movie causes the issues lol. First Class was meant as a soft reboot but DoFP turned First Class into a prequel, causing continuity errors.
@jemal999
@jemal999 Ай бұрын
Almost as hard as trying to figure out the mangled timeline of the comics!
@willmendoza8498
@willmendoza8498 Ай бұрын
The “tailors and pig farmers” scene is one of my all time favorites in cinema. As is the second usage of “on the count of three, I’m going to move the coin.” It’s a flawed film, but when it’s good, it’s really good. Magneto’s theme music really helps, as well.
@Temeraire101
@Temeraire101 Ай бұрын
Michael Ironside as the US ship captain 🙂
@peterlenham3180
@peterlenham3180 Ай бұрын
Its a good job he didnt have his "powers" in this one!
@peterlenham3180
@peterlenham3180 Ай бұрын
Its a good job he didnt have his "powers" in this one!
@Dystopia1111
@Dystopia1111 Ай бұрын
"They sucked his brains out "
@mattiaventura7705
@mattiaventura7705 Ай бұрын
Actually... James McAvoy shaved his head when he got the role and then producers told him he was going to play a much younger version of Xavier and that he shouldn't have done it...
@DerekHartley
@DerekHartley Ай бұрын
Yeah, we all heard that in the video.
@MothproofKT
@MothproofKT Ай бұрын
They told us that in the video
@mattiaventura7705
@mattiaventura7705 Ай бұрын
I must have missed it. My bad
@GarrettHarlen
@GarrettHarlen Ай бұрын
13:05: they jokingly state that the producers asked McAvoy to cut his hair.
@Rorujin
@Rorujin Ай бұрын
Technically the "Emma Frost" in Origins has been retconned as not being THE Emma Frost. But then again, the X-Men movie timeline is flustercuck.
@immeasurablyme3698
@immeasurablyme3698 Ай бұрын
not really. Jut that most of origins isnt canon. Otherwise things line up all right
@gregghelmberger
@gregghelmberger Ай бұрын
Wait wait wait, you're suggesting that an X-Men timeline is a baffling, convoluted mess? I will say good say to you. I SAID GOOD DAY!
@jokerz7936
@jokerz7936 Ай бұрын
@@immeasurablyme3698 Really I must have missed that part in X-Men, X2, and The Last Stand where Charles mentions Mystique is his adopted sister or Moira worked for the CIA. X-Men First Class is my favorite X-Men movie, but it doesn't line up at all with the original films. Ironically Days of the Future Past and X-Men Wolverine Origins timeline wise line up better. With the idea DOFP takes place during the time Logan had left Stryker and before was with Silverfox.
@sumelar
@sumelar Ай бұрын
@@jokerz7936 Literally nothing you said contradicts the person you quoted.
@loudboy317
@loudboy317 Ай бұрын
​@@immeasurablyme3698 Actually, most of Origins IS canon. The World War 2 scene in Origins happened in the same year as Magneto's origin scene in this movie and in X1. Plus, Wolverine's cameo comes right before the Vietnam war scene.
@DKSean
@DKSean 2 ай бұрын
Obligatory "They did Darwin dirty, he shouldn't have been offed so easily" comment
@RyPie51
@RyPie51 Ай бұрын
His death looks like he has eaten a spicy pepper lol
@DKSean
@DKSean Ай бұрын
@@RyPie51 The guy developed teleportation powers to survive The Hulk (his mutation realised the only way to survive was to be half way across the country), he should absolutely have survived a single lazer apple which he for some reason ate.
@RyPie51
@RyPie51 Ай бұрын
​@DKSean agreed. a couple of years after seeing this i looked Darwin up and no way he should have died.
@ColombianThunder
@ColombianThunder Ай бұрын
​@@DKSeanto be fair, a lot of these characters are pretty different from their comic counterparts, so comic Darwin and movie Darwin inherently would never be the same. Also comic Darwin becoming the god of death to avoid death is very dumb imo.
@claycrawford7
@claycrawford7 Ай бұрын
This 97 year old diner still serves their Coke the old fashioned way
@XeonAlpha
@XeonAlpha 2 ай бұрын
Fun story diamonds are the hardest mineral known BUT they are _SHOCKINGLY_ easy to shatter. You could actually shatter the most expensive diamond ever found by just hitting it with a hammer.. 😬😳
@cjpolett2055
@cjpolett2055 Ай бұрын
They also burn since they're carbon
@ericstarkey551
@ericstarkey551 Ай бұрын
In the books Emma frost started as a villain and later helped run the X-Men team, generation x. Later she married Scott summers
@iampotsataja
@iampotsataja Ай бұрын
Moira was actually also in X3. She was the one taking care of the catatonic patient whose body Charles takes over in the post credits
@nooneofconsequence1251
@nooneofconsequence1251 Ай бұрын
This version of Shaw is basically unkillable while conscious... you can't crush his helmet... he absorbs all "energy". Kinetic force, even physical mass, are forms of energy. Anything you throw at him he just absorbs and can throw back at you.
@1stKindChris
@1stKindChris Ай бұрын
It also begs the question.... if Shaw is a mutant, then why does Magneto hate humans? Kind of botched the character motivation from scene 1.
@LordVolkov
@LordVolkov Ай бұрын
But it seems silly that he has to be conscious to use it. Why doesn't his body just absorb energy by default?
@KS-xk2so
@KS-xk2so Ай бұрын
@@1stKindChris Magneto's revenge quest was specific to killing Nazi's and Shaw. He even says in this movie he thought he was alone, as in he doesn't know he's a mutant and hate all humans yet. Its once he discovers mutants, and see's how they are treated by the powers of the world, exactly how the Nazi's treated the Jews, that he becomes what he becomes.
@bloodymarvelous4790
@bloodymarvelous4790 Ай бұрын
Which is also why he kills him so slowly. If the coin were moving fast the kinetic energy would just be absorbed. There's very little kinetic energy to the coin when it makes contact with Shaw's head, so there isn't much to absorb and ward off his death.
@1stKindChris
@1stKindChris Ай бұрын
@KS-xk2so I followed all that, and the logic makes sense. It just still a leap to wanting revenge on Shaw to wanting to kill humans
@terakahn
@terakahn Ай бұрын
I love the look of pure confusion on George's face everytime you guys do an intro. That moment when you ask if Xavier can fix trauma. I hope you continue the x-men movie series.
@PenneySounds
@PenneySounds Ай бұрын
The impressive thing about the opening sequence is they refilmed all the close ups on Erik with the new actor, but the rest of the scene is the original footage from the first movie. But when they do the coin scene, they actually brought back the actress who played Erik's mother in the opening scene of the first film.
@nooneofconsequence1251
@nooneofconsequence1251 Ай бұрын
The opening scene of this film, a shot-for-shot remake of the opening of the original X-Men, is a really interesting study in just how incredibly impactful seemingly minute decisions in film editing can be... the original scene, IMO, hits *so* much harder emotionally just by allowing shots to linger a second or a fraction of a second longer... this remade version is cut slightly quicker... and doesn't really land for me like the original does, even though it is nearly identical.
@Eidlones
@Eidlones Ай бұрын
Same. That opening scene in X1 is one of my favorite scenes in thw series, and the changes stood out for me pretty hard. They did recreate it, but they also reused some shots and cut them off early (most noteably when the guard walks in to knock out Eric). It lacks the impact.
@neonsmoviereviews7969
@neonsmoviereviews7969 Ай бұрын
I agree but it also never bothered me, it felt more of a way to communicate to the audience that this is the same version of the character, and at most like the boldest nostalgia bait ever put into a comic book film yet.
@rikmoran3963
@rikmoran3963 Ай бұрын
I always find it funny when people make a comment about the underwear, such as George saying "Oh, she just happened to have THAT on under her dress!". Pantyhose/tights, whatever you prefer to call them, didn't overtake the popularity of stockings until the 1970s, so it is completely in character for a young woman to be dressed like that in the 1960s.
@brauliob
@brauliob Ай бұрын
Plus, she' bright enough to have prepared before the stake out that she may have to go into the Playboy club.
@DoBenni
@DoBenni Ай бұрын
2:46 His german is actually pretty good. Better intonation than 99% of non german natives in movies imo. However you can still hear he's not really german from the way he rolls the r.
@nooneofconsequence1251
@nooneofconsequence1251 Ай бұрын
and considering that Shaw in the comics is from Pennsylvania, I think, and in the movies it's never established exactly where he is from, it makes sense that he might have an accent. Even Hitler wasn't actually from Germany.
@otter011
@otter011 Ай бұрын
The r is actually great because lots of Germans did roll their rs at that time, especially in the military and in movies. But I agree, he’s doing great, I can understand everything but I can also hear he has an English language background
@MetastaticMaladies
@MetastaticMaladies Ай бұрын
He’s had practice, didn’t he play a role as an undercover German officer in inglorious bastards?
@davidladjani108
@davidladjani108 Ай бұрын
Don't Austrians and Bavarians roll the r ?
@otter011
@otter011 Ай бұрын
@@MetastaticMaladies wasn’t that Michael Fassbender? His character pretended to be German
@mrbaldy1665
@mrbaldy1665 Ай бұрын
In the comics, Beasts serum had nothing to do with Mystique, and his "beast form" was originally gray. But then gray ink prices suddenly increased and then turned him a cheaper shade of blue. Same thing happened to the Hulk, who was also originally gray.
@shanedaley6236
@shanedaley6236 Ай бұрын
Wasn't hulk color in the comics because they couldn't produce a color or had trouble making it consistently
@mrbaldy1665
@mrbaldy1665 Ай бұрын
@@shanedaley6236 it was because the gray got too expensive to produce
@mizrolist
@mizrolist Ай бұрын
@@mrbaldy1665 Nope, Hulk was changed because the colour wasn't consistent.
@StarkRG
@StarkRG Ай бұрын
20:11 "A metal bedframe could crack her neck, but she could use her diamond to cut through glass?" Diamond is the hardest known material, this is what lets it cut glass (really, it's just scoring the glass, you'd have to keep scratching it over and over again to cut through). Diamond is also very brittle and can shatter if enough force is applied. Hardness and brittleness are different properties.
@jacotromp59581
@jacotromp59581 Ай бұрын
Day of future past is right around the corner and I am so excited for your reaction to it
@cjpolett2055
@cjpolett2055 Ай бұрын
Emma Frost is NOT Silver Fox's sister, that was a random choice from the producers of Origins:Wolverine (who clearly knew jack as demonstrated by Deadpool) Silver Fox is a very minor character only linked to Logan. Emma Frost is a major character who set up a rival school to Xavier's until all her students were killed then she became an ally.
@ImAlsoMerobiba
@ImAlsoMerobiba Ай бұрын
They actually weren't ignorant when it came to Deadpool. All the changes had reasons. Bad and dumb reasons but they still somehow thought them through. There were too many chefs in the kitchen, too many ideas and restrictions, like how they couldn't have him suit up for the first time when it wasn't his solo movie or not having Ryan planned for the final scene.
@h.4315
@h.4315 Ай бұрын
12:57 Fun fact: James McAvoy shaved his hair in preparation for his role as the follicly-impaired professor, only to be told that they wanted him haired, so he ended up wearing a wig for his role.
@TheeGoatPig
@TheeGoatPig Ай бұрын
"How does that work..." It doesn't. The X-men franchise stopped caring about continuity after X2. Each movie after that takes place in its own pocket reality where every character has a different look, backstory, personality... None of it really matters from one film to the next. But they are still fun 😊
@bakingwithbenjamin4800
@bakingwithbenjamin4800 Ай бұрын
Referring to Hank's weird mutant feet as "The feetsies" made me literally laugh out loud lol
@CyberBeep_kenshi
@CyberBeep_kenshi Ай бұрын
"They were just following orders" Joker: Very poor choice of words 😁
@paulmalcolm4735
@paulmalcolm4735 Ай бұрын
32:45 you can really hear the Irish coming out.
@gjchawks17
@gjchawks17 Ай бұрын
I’ll never get over that professor xavier literally says “they’re just following orders” to a holocaust survivor. One that he says he’s felt the pain of 😂
@connorbrennan4233
@connorbrennan4233 Ай бұрын
I guess Charles completely missed the Nuremberg Trials.
@williamrosmer8381
@williamrosmer8381 Ай бұрын
professor x is kind of an ass.
@xfireflarex
@xfireflarex Ай бұрын
@@williamrosmer8381 considering that these ships hold about 1500 people and about 30 or so in each ship are making the decision to attack the island, I would say Professor X is justified in his response. Magneto is doing the equivalent of destroying the whole village for the actions of a few (like he always does)
@williamrosmer8381
@williamrosmer8381 Ай бұрын
@@xfireflarex I meant in general, not just for that line
@KS-xk2so
@KS-xk2so Ай бұрын
@@xfireflarex 30 is high if anything lol. The decisions made by those jerks in the war room.... sure maybe eacch captain could refuse under some sort of Navy regulation, but outside them, no one has a choice.
@anakamarvelous
@anakamarvelous Ай бұрын
“That was a lot eh?” Fuck yeah Canada 😂😂😂
@ArmouredPhalanx
@ArmouredPhalanx 2 ай бұрын
The Mystique/Charles relationship is not at all comic canon. Mystique is actually much older in the comic and was already an adult in the 1920s. She did, however, have a background with Wolverine (kind of a feedback loop from X2 inspiring connections and relationships in the comics where ones hadn't really existed before). But yeah, this whole movie series plays extremely fast and loose with timelines and events not only from the comics, but even previous movies in the series. In the comics Scott and Alex Summers are brothers (and in the comics Scott is the OLDER brother...). Emma already appeared as a younger character in Wolverine: Origins. Etc etc. Anyway, it's all a mess and it's best not to overthink the chronology too much.
@pablochian1439
@pablochian1439 Ай бұрын
@@ArmouredPhalanx It would have to be Cain Marco (Juggernaut) / Charles, not Mystique...
@BarryHart-xo1oy
@BarryHart-xo1oy Ай бұрын
Quite true.
@nerdwarp112
@nerdwarp112 Ай бұрын
Yeah, the movies pretty much ignore X-Men Origins: Wolverine entirely (which is for the best imo). The Emma Frost in this movie isn’t the same as the one from Origins. Edit: Also originally in the comics Beast just looked like a regular guy except for his feet, and then he was given a redesign later on that’s his more iconic look.
@VorpalBunnysRevenge
@VorpalBunnysRevenge Ай бұрын
In this video, Simone does her own imitation of Groot. Oh My God.
@williambryan3346
@williambryan3346 Ай бұрын
@13:48 Alex Summers, a.k.a. Havok, is Scott Summers’, a.k.a. Cyclops’, older brother.
@glennwelsh9784
@glennwelsh9784 Ай бұрын
5:36 "Don't worry about it" is exactly the approach with much of the series' inconsistent continuity. The franchise had a lot of creatives coming and going, and they usually didn't collaborate in order to make sure that plot elements added up or connected from movie to movie. It's likely that they didn't watch or remember what happened in the previous films, or they just chose to disregard details that they considered to be minor. We've kinda been spoiled by the Marvel Cinematic Universe's strong adherence to continuity, so we've been trained to expect all the smaller plot points and elements in other big movie franchises to be just as consistent as the MCU. But the notion of a "shared cinematic universe" was really started and popularized with the MCU, largely due to producer Kevin Feige. He actually started out as an assistant producer on the early X-Men films before transitioning to Marvel Studios' president of production. He took what he learned from the X-Men franchise's successes and failures (including its rather cavalier approach to narrative continuity) and applied it to the blossoming MCU.
@RustyDust101
@RustyDust101 Ай бұрын
As a German I can give you a little trivia on the side. Magneto's full name "Erik Lehnsherr" is doubly meaningful. Erik is from the old Scandinvian/Norse "Eirikir", which is a combination of "alone, sole" and "powerful, mighty" which combined means "the Sole Sovereign". And the German Lehnsherr goes back to medieval times when the Lehensherr would be the absolute sovereign or liege over peasants. So the combination of first and last name is the "ruling alone as liege over peasants". Which is pretty much what he was doing, especially in "The Last Stand" when he sent the 'pawns' out to die first during the assault on Alcatraz.
@seeschwalbe
@seeschwalbe Ай бұрын
2:48 to answer that question, his German is alright but not great. He still has an accent and is a little bit difficult to understand sometimes, but overall it's quite good for someone who doesn't really speak the language.
@PenneySounds
@PenneySounds Ай бұрын
You can really tell the difference when an actor doesn't speak a language but really makes an effort. Even when you don't speak a language yourself, you can still hear a big difference between an actor who's half-assing it and one that's put the work in to try and sound as authentic as they possibly can. Both his German and his Russian in this movie sound that way to me, as someone who doesn't speak either.
@nooneofconsequence1251
@nooneofconsequence1251 Ай бұрын
re: accents... Prof. Xavier and his parents are American in the comics so presumably don't have an English accent unless they're just snobs (I know some Americans who try to fake one). In the films he is British-American... and went to university at Oxford... his mother apparently speaks with a British accent... so even though he grew up in Westchester, New York, it's understandable that being somewhat isolated on the family estate he may adopt his parents' or later classmates' accents. Mystique is just American, so, makes sense that she would speak with an American accent. Though... Jennifer Lawrence's Kentucky drawl doesn't really fit the character at all, IMO... Rebecca Romijn's take was better.
@TupocalypseShakur
@TupocalypseShakur Ай бұрын
Like how Emma Frost stole a British accent but slips into a Bostonian one when angry
@sutej72
@sutej72 Ай бұрын
Her is a funny image to think about. Kevin Bacon in the helmet = Mojo Jojo 😂
@SlinkyFromHell.4
@SlinkyFromHell.4 Ай бұрын
"That was a lot eh" most Canadian ending possible
@SG-js2qn
@SG-js2qn Ай бұрын
Diamond is both hard and brittle. It has no flexibility, so when under strain it just cracks. Magneto moved the coin slowly through Shaw's head because going fast would enable him to absorb the kinetic energy and not cause penetration. Banshee was an early X-Men adversary who eventually joined the team and was with them off and on over the years. In the comics, Hank accidentally caused a secondary mutation with a serum he developed. It turned him grey and furry, later changing to black, which became blue-black for coloring reasons.
@john99218
@john99218 Ай бұрын
A curious thing about diamonds. In one plane its is the hardest thing known, in the other two planes its has 'planes of clevage' which allow it to be 'shaped' . Any jewelery quality diamond has many facets (look images of diamonds up). Soooooo..... Magneto has only to exploit the planes of clevage and diamonds can 'break apart' quite easily.
@Vulcanerd
@Vulcanerd Ай бұрын
This is such a fantastic movie. One of the things I enjoy is that a lot of the dialogue and rhetoric you hear Ian McKellan Magneto espouse in the first three films is exactly what Shaw mentions in this movie and which, by the end, Magneto secretly harbors and even explicitly embraces by the end.
@harryfieldson
@harryfieldson 2 ай бұрын
I find that trivia point about the hair so funny, he probably cost them a decent amount of money doing that but he completely understandably assumed it was the right idea
@michaelhasenberg
@michaelhasenberg Ай бұрын
just 1 short comment from germany: you guys should have at least 1,7 million subscribers! your reactions are among the best on youtube. smart, clever, not afraid to share you emotions with us - i really enjoy all of your videos! and simone even inspired me to buy the beastie boys van t-shirt she was wearing in one of the rection videos. ,-) thanks for creating such a lot of videos - and keep up the good work! 👍👍👍
@Tobutch
@Tobutch Ай бұрын
Professor X can put mental walls inside peoples minds, locking away or hiding memories and/or personality traits as he had done with Jean Gray's Phoenix personality in The Last Stand. In the comics, he once shut off Magnetos brain as a last resort, practicly making him braindead. Bonus fact: Alex Summers (Havoc) is the brother of Scott Summers (Cyclops).
@billdanson8690
@billdanson8690 Ай бұрын
Fun comic fact: Mystique and Xavier did not grow up together in the comics. However, Mystique *was* Sherlock Holmes
@chiefhandker9432
@chiefhandker9432 Ай бұрын
There is no Deadpool 3 but Deadpool & Wolverine.
@TheCmducks
@TheCmducks Ай бұрын
They really did darwin dirty he totally could have survived that
@riveraharper8166
@riveraharper8166 25 күн бұрын
Fun fact: the "devil guy" originally was the fater and Mystique was the mother of Nightcrawler from the X-men 2 movie.
@collectedcurios
@collectedcurios Ай бұрын
I think Charles saying "don't touch my hair" is an in-joke. Apparently, in preparation for the role, McAvoy shaved his head..... which no one asked him to do, because they didn't actually WANT Charles to be bald in the movie. McAvoy is wearing a wig throughout the film.
@MothproofKT
@MothproofKT Ай бұрын
That’s in the video already.
@PuppyMonsters
@PuppyMonsters Ай бұрын
19:07 Darwin 'should' have been able to adapt to it. A whole ton of comics fans were absolutely disgusted at how easily Shaw defeated him. To give an example of how his body can react to absolutely anything, while fighting Hulk, to save itself, his body teleported him to the other side of the world.
@johannacaulfield7840
@johannacaulfield7840 Ай бұрын
There's friends, there's enemies, there's lovers, and then there's whatever Eric and Charlies have going on.
@Jmgjgdjd5
@Jmgjgdjd5 Ай бұрын
frenemies
@ES-gg8pd
@ES-gg8pd Ай бұрын
* Not * Vancouver Aquarium 😅 This is the ONE X-Men movie that wasn't filmed in Canada X-Men: Toronto X2, X3 + (Deadpool, DP2): Vancouver Days of Future Past, Apocalypse, Dark Phoenix: Montreal Wolverine movies also not in Canada. Deadpool & Wolverine, First Class: UK
@LeonardoKlotz
@LeonardoKlotz Ай бұрын
Simon Kinberg proved that he can do a better job as a producer than as a writer In fact, he was the one who pitched Matthew Vaughn to direct this movie, after seeing KICK-ASS
@captainofdunedain3993
@captainofdunedain3993 Ай бұрын
32:01 my fav scene
@godzillaprime
@godzillaprime Ай бұрын
Ahh, the ol' "I've seen this movie but wait a minute I dont remember any of this" routine
@Malekai2000
@Malekai2000 Ай бұрын
Eriks line: "I've been at the Mercy of men just following orders... Never again!!" Is just so Hauntingly Powerfull! (= Magneto is such an AMAZING Antagonist)
@KronnangDunn
@KronnangDunn Ай бұрын
Now you should totally watch DAYS OF FUTURE PAST next...
@one1charlie643
@one1charlie643 Ай бұрын
"I've been at the mercy of men just following orders" more pertinent now than ever
@scotiej
@scotiej Ай бұрын
To answer Simone's questions about how characters like Emma Frost and Mystique seem so different from the other X-Men based movies is this new series retconned them, meaning their backstories were changed for this new group of movies.
@CaptainEnglehorn
@CaptainEnglehorn Ай бұрын
To answer Simone’s question, no Mystique did not grow up with Xavier in the comics.
@Jmgjgdjd5
@Jmgjgdjd5 Ай бұрын
instead Juggernaut did
@RyoHazuki224
@RyoHazuki224 Ай бұрын
I think this is still my favorite X-Men movie. Just really well done showing how Charles and Eric's friendship started but you can already see their differences. I think this is where they really finally respected the comic property and did it justice. The prior movies kinda did their own thing and were, well, mistakes were made.
@godmagnus
@godmagnus Ай бұрын
Misty has an American accent because she grew up in America. That's how that works. Chuck, we must assume, had just recently moved to America, which is why he never picked up an American accent.
@xen0bia
@xen0bia Ай бұрын
I like that McAvoy makes a comment about not touching his hair, but ended up playing a bald super villain a few years later in Split.
@stephenb5jones476
@stephenb5jones476 Ай бұрын
In the early X-men Hank (Beast) was just a big strong guy. The fur came later. Banshee was a member of the "new" X-men for several years, his daughter made an appearance in the second movie.
@O_Towne_Bear
@O_Towne_Bear Ай бұрын
I had one of those "frisbees" too, Simone. It was called an "Arobi" it was an orange ring made of flat rubber(?) and you could toss it the length of a football field.
@Rob_Infinity3
@Rob_Infinity3 Ай бұрын
4:13 - The big mansion where Xavier grew up is in Westchester, New York. So if anything, Xavier should develop an American "twang" to his accent.
@LordVolkov
@LordVolkov Ай бұрын
Magneto showing up to free Emma at the end is so silly since they never bring January Jones back 😅
@ImAlsoMerobiba
@ImAlsoMerobiba Ай бұрын
They might have. Matthew Vaughn had a plan for a trilogy which would have ended with a DoFP adaptation. When Fox saw a draft of the script, they wanted it as the 2nd movie which was not his plan. He eventually left and they brought back Singer. While the DoFP we got was pretty good, this wasn't the original plan. We probably would have seen this Magneto's Brotherhood in a movie if Vaughn stayed on.
@Liesmith424
@Liesmith424 2 ай бұрын
This movie did Darwin so dirty. That little energy ball wouldn't have even given him heartburn in the comics. His death in the movie is like watching Superman die to falling damage.
@mikedignum1868
@mikedignum1868 Ай бұрын
Agreed, in the comics he's very powerful because of his adaptations. But then again none of these films follows the comic lore very much. Example - Banshee is Irish and worked for Interpol & Alex Summers is the brother of Scott.
@nooneofconsequence1251
@nooneofconsequence1251 Ай бұрын
yeah, as mike pointed out, all of these characters are different from their comics counterparts, and to be fair to the writers on the film, Darwin in the comics is incredibly stupid even by the standards of the very silly premise behind X-Men comics... I mean... your power is that you adapt to survive anything? 1st of all, that's not even close to how evolution works (again, even by the low, low standards of the X-Men comics, that's still dumb, unless Darwin has sex and makes millions of children and then some of them survive whatever way their father died, have more children, etc)... 2nd, it's just a really dumb power. Makes no sense. Not very cinematic. Smart decision to kill him off. Simultaneously shows this version of Shaw to be the threat that he is, killing the "unkillable" one of the group...
@diwachtler
@diwachtler Ай бұрын
yeah pretty sad how they killed him so easily when he basically cant die
@DarkwingDuc
@DarkwingDuc Ай бұрын
@@Liesmith424 Do you think they could've handled him differently or just not use the character at all?
@claycrawford7
@claycrawford7 Ай бұрын
We know it’s been posted about for a decade now, just gotta throw away every other scene in the movie I guess
@OzeroCa
@OzeroCa Ай бұрын
I’ve been a paraplegic since 2001. I’ve known prof x for much longer. When I saw him able-bodied in this, I quickly chalked it up as being earlier in his life, and upon the injury…. It was an unexpected gut-punch. It’s a powerful moment in the film in general, but I, and people in a similar situation as me… felt it hard.
@zbennalley
@zbennalley Ай бұрын
The beauty of this film to me is how Erik and Xavier met. I grew up reading comics, and I always saw their relationship as Malcolm X and Martin Luther King they have a message, but they are both coming about it in different ways. They are not enemies, but they will never agree because of their lives.
@drekvolker3430
@drekvolker3430 Ай бұрын
They indeed reshooted the intro scene. This film has Extra points for that
@SouthPaw7896
@SouthPaw7896 Ай бұрын
IIRC Xavier can block memories because in the comics he helped Rogue put the memories of Carol Danvers in a back section of her mind. Rogue had fought Danvers and held on so long that she drained too much of Danvers' memories, powers and life force. Rogue was having hallucinations that Danvers was following her and tormenting her.
@gregkirby9059
@gregkirby9059 Ай бұрын
Red Devil guy is Nightcrawlers Father
@hardsider2403
@hardsider2403 Ай бұрын
26:31 yeah if I'm not mistaken at some point in the comics it was like that where one day he started changing and he summarized it was a progression of his mutant abilities
@politicalmoderate190
@politicalmoderate190 Ай бұрын
33:47 I love the meme for the still image that says "Magneto has so much sass, he's breaking backs."
@themediater
@themediater Ай бұрын
The part where Charles says "they're just following orders" to Eric as if that's going to stop him is very good, like Eric says, he's been at the mercy of people using that defense before and Charles knows that. At this point when he's not using his powers Charles is not so great at the whole diplomacy/persuasion thing.
@Finn_Anwarunya
@Finn_Anwarunya Ай бұрын
Darwin WAS supposed to be able to adapt to anything. That actually pissed off a lot of comic book fans because Darwin is one of, if not the most resilient x-men and can survive essentially anything, but they just immediately killed him off.
@mikeyquinn2254
@mikeyquinn2254 Ай бұрын
With Hank McCoy/Beast, you guys also saw him on TV when Mystique as Grace was talking to and drugging Magneto's prison guard, just before she injected the iron in his body on the bathroom.
@Bill-v6f
@Bill-v6f Ай бұрын
Most fans are upset at the Darwin killing. He would adapt to survive from that Shaw attack. In World War Hulk, when the Hulk faced him, his power gave him the ability to teleport away.
@nathanwallace3337
@nathanwallace3337 Ай бұрын
If I'm not mistaken Beast tried to cure himself and it made his mutation worse
@spiderhamilton1
@spiderhamilton1 Ай бұрын
The character in X-Men Origin:Wolverine is called Emma but is never given a last name. She is Silver Fox's sister so last name would be Fox, maybe? She's supposed to imply Emma Frost in the same way Wade Wilson in that movie implies Deadpool. But that Emma character fits in line with an actual Canadian mutant character from Wolverine's past named Diamond Lil...you can guess why they called her that and like in that movie she has no telepathic powers. The writers just stuck character names and designs into the movie just as Easter Eggs for comic book nerds with little regard to accuracy. Also, the electric mutant that was killed by Sabretooth in XOW is named Bolt and he was in the movie bcuz he happened to share a codename with another in that movie Agent Zero, the one with the guns who killed the nice old couple. Zero was a old teammate of Logan who went by Maverick. He changed his named to Agent Zero and a teenager with electric powers took up his costume and name and became the second Maverick and then died of the Legacy Virus which was mutant AIDS. It's messed up details like this that took meh action movie to a hated (almost) franchise killer
@ImAlsoMerobiba
@ImAlsoMerobiba Ай бұрын
She had a TV trailer spot where she says "My name is Emma Frost. I'm mutant"." It's on KZbin. It's actually contains the majority of the actress' lines for the character. You're right that they took a lot of creative liberties with Origins and also ignored continuity.
@vilefly
@vilefly Ай бұрын
I always hated the fact that they decided to kill Darwin off. He was much more interesting than the others and wasn't just a simpleton with powers.
@clayjohanson
@clayjohanson Ай бұрын
The shortest and best explanation I’ve ever heard to explain the philosophical differences between Professor X and Magneto: Professor X is to Martin Luther King as Magneto is to Malcolm X
@trashcaninc.292
@trashcaninc.292 Ай бұрын
Azazel can full teleport, not like night crawler (blue blink guy from X2) to "teleport" you pass through hell and azazel being from hell has a better connection of sorts. He should have been used MORE
@MrHale
@MrHale Ай бұрын
Azazel has always been one of my all time favorites in these X-Men movies. Second's Magik. Maybe I just like hellish things.
@benjovi356
@benjovi356 Ай бұрын
In the comics, Beast was a large muscular guy with enlarged feet and hands but had super strength and agility. He was also a genius engineer/chemist scientist. The Smart guy on the team. He was experimenting with cellular formulas to possibly end mutation since some mutations are too dangerous or harmful (Like Rogue not being able to touch anything). Mystique was not involved. He took a formula he thought would work. After a day or two, he transforms like a werewolf into his bigger blue furry form. He ran off thinking Charles and the others would not accept him as a monster but Charles finds him and brings him back. Ice Man made fun of him being blue but the others stood up for him. In a later issue, Beast saves Jean Grey when they got separated and stranded in the wilderness. Since then, Jean was always fond of him. She never really dated Beast, but she does kiss him a couple times when she realizes he didn't want to be a monster. Marvel was always good at writing people who became inhuman and wanted to change back.
@biguy617
@biguy617 Ай бұрын
In the Early comics Beast was super strong, super intelligent, super speed, and had super dexterity. He has an animal side too that he tries to control as well.
@Lightningrod75
@Lightningrod75 2 ай бұрын
Beast looked human in the original comics. After the Comics Code Authority was relaxed and Marvel could use more horror elements in their books, Beast was given grey fur. In 1972 he was given black fur, because of the way artists depict black, the blue highlights made him look blue. He wasn't officially blue until 4 years later when it was acknowledged in Avengers. Emma Frost didn't turn to diamond initially, that happened sometime in the 90's(?) but it's a 'secondary mutation' or a cheap ass way to try to write a character out of a corner. As a character she wasn't even around until 1979. No idea why she was in First Class other than Fox has a boner for doing their own thing with their licenses.
@TupocalypseShakur
@TupocalypseShakur Ай бұрын
Beast was created after the code was in place, also you could get away with a monster character if you gave a sciency explanation. Mephisto was literally the devil but they explained it away by saying he was an alien from another dimension that just so happened to look like hell
@scottredding7357
@scottredding7357 Ай бұрын
Emma was introduced in the comics in 1963, and her diamond secondary mutation was in New X-Men in 2001.
@moreau1755
@moreau1755 Ай бұрын
@@scottredding7357 The secondary mutation was brought in because the writer, Grant Morrison, wanted to use Colossus, but was told Colossus couldn't be used as he'd been killed and Marvel wasn't allowing resurrections (that changed and Colossus eventually came back). Since he couldn't have Colossus, Morrison gave Frost a second power similar to Colossus' power.
@Lightningrod75
@Lightningrod75 Ай бұрын
@@scottredding7357 Emma was introduced in Uncanny #129 The X-Men were introduced in 1963
@Hide_Me
@Hide_Me Ай бұрын
17:02 "I thought she was made of diamonds..." Diamonds are not unbreakable, despite common belief. Diamonds are very hard, but only in the _geological_ context, which describes _scratch resistance_ only. You can smash a diamond with a hammer, Simone.
@mudejartrainingnaturalscie6938
@mudejartrainingnaturalscie6938 Ай бұрын
This movie made Azazel/Satan a mutant, in the comics he's a fallen angel that fathered many children and is responsible for the mutant gene that went dormant.
@mudejartrainingnaturalscie6938
@mudejartrainingnaturalscie6938 Ай бұрын
Mutants are the Nephilim.
@markmcgee2417
@markmcgee2417 Ай бұрын
I don't get why anyone reacting to this doesn't ever see that he's essentially Nightcrawler just red instead of blue and has flames instead of smoke when he teleports. I didn't even collect the comics that featured him but I could see that they are both essentially the same as far as abilities and likely related.
@mudejartrainingnaturalscie6938
@mudejartrainingnaturalscie6938 Ай бұрын
@@markmcgee2417 nightcrawler is the child of Mystique and Azazel.
@Jmgjgdjd5
@Jmgjgdjd5 Ай бұрын
@@mudejartrainingnaturalscie6938 wasn't it retconnected?
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