X-MEN VS UPSTARTS!! || X-Men 4, 2024 ||

[@roberthemedes1064]

There is something tragic about the mutants devolving into fighting each other again since they no longer have a common cause like Krakoa to unite and fight for. If I were a mutant stuck on earth, I would try my best to relocate to Arakko and leave earth behind.

[@m.k.o7610]

The mutants were never United under Krakoa. 😂😂🤣🤣

[@roberthemedes1064]

@@m.k.o7610 The vast majority of mutants were united under Krakoa. There were a few holdouts like those thrown into the [pit or most of the Morlocks who didn't want to live in the same island as the Mauraders. But for the most part, the mutants were united behind Krakoa. Now those that remained on earth are back to being fractured and fighting each other again. Same old, same old.

[@m.k.o7610]

@@roberthemedes1064 Krakoa failed because of it human element. The quiet council thought themselves superior and unbeatable which led to their failure. For example Mr Sinister and Sebastian Shaw, two of the major elements who that caused fall of the nation. They keep ignoring their transgression until it was too late.

[@roberthemedes1064]

@@m.k.o7610 Krakoa didn't fail. In fact, it succeeded beyond their wildest dreams. The original Quiet Council failed but the current Quiet Council learned from their failure mistakes and actually led by listening, which is why the vast majority of mutants decided to remain in Krakoa when it relocated to the White Hot Room and managed to resurrect pretty much every deceased mutant including those massacred in Genosha. The few mutants addicted to flawed human culture are the ones that chose to remain in earth because they enjoy being persecuted by humans. The current version of Krakoa is now similar to the utopia the post humans have created for themselves inside The Vault.

[@buildaggedonarmanaziie4462]

I love that Sugar Man is back because he is a powerful and dangerous enemy who is not given any shine and he has so much potential to be up there with Mr. Sinsiter and Dark Beast as a smart mutant geneticist and a powerful and dangerous villain to the X-Men. I hope that after this Sugar Man get way more shine and becomes more of a mainstay villain just like Mr. Sinister.

[@caldervitriolic2128]

I hope Colossus ends up joining the team, like he had a really a tough time on Krakoa so he needs a win

[@ginofrancejr555]

Excellent review i would not be surprise if dark beast rears his head again

[@Алексей545-т6б]

I think that Beast fear to work in the field because he does not know what exactly went wrong with other Beast during Krakoa era

[@davidmgilbreath]

That’s reasonable.

[@kb1d]

Stop hiding the past from Beast. If you don't know the history, then you're doomed to repeat it.

[@sammiejaeyoung1316]

This Beast is aware of everything his template has done. He's a genius and not stupid at all plus the X-Men aren't stupid enough to try and hide the past from Beast and think it'll work. Its the day to day Krakoan life that Beast says he can't remember because he didn't live it but he looked up and researched everything about his template. I'd be depressed, too, if I looked myself up and found a whole lotta evil bullshyt "I" committed.

[@wheattoast1971]

I mean look at Cyclops! He went down a villain path, but seeing everything his future version did, he deemed it necessary and was able to move on.

[@viviorko]

Enjoying the new team. Serious hitters.

[@daywalker08225]

I remember Sugerman getting killed ? before all the house of X stuff

[@jackieanderson9408]

Good afternoon comic break down 😁😊

[@robertthomas933]

Or hear me out he is the beast we thought died..

[@sawboss5794]

That makes too much sense.

[@encognitusmaximus7598]

I've always liked Dark Beast as a villian. If I'm not mistaken I think during the Age of Apocalypse story Dark Beast worked with Sugar Man. Interesting he's in this issue and questions about Beast.

[@ijimenez5]

Glad your back Broskiiiiii

[@IrvinReedTemplarUp]

1. Worst visor design for Slim. 2. With each new comic, with each new story arc... the more I hate Beast. 3. Cain setting everyone straight, in comic and out, for the win. 4. Great villians for this team to find their way. Sugar Man is a bad man! Lol 5. Love the family bonding (over chess no less), but I hope they don't overuse Magik. 6. Colossus been through A LOT. Let him breathe. I think he should get involved only on his terms 7. Not sure if I like the direction they're going in yet. We'll see because the statis quo has been Marvel + X-Men doing well = mutant sacrifice. 8. Choosing to be a mutant? Unless Franklin Richard "chooses" to a mutant, I don't wanna hear it. 🙅🏿 Magneto was right. 🙅🏿 Cyclops was right. 🙅🏿 Apocalypse was right. 🙅🏿 #mutant

[@fauxmintdissident]

maybe Beast has a secondary mutation, or he’s interested in what’s happening with the mutations

[@kingshadow8782]

Hello there!

[@jaimemarquez2597]

I'm kinda tired of the evil beast story line. I don't need to see it anymore.

[@jorgeneedssleep7978]

its finished. its been done for over a year now. the current beast was a clone that was used to defeat him that mentally is taken from the 80s

[@Aureilius2112]

He’s not evil now though?

[@jaimemarquez2597]

@@Aureilius2112 yeah, no he's not. I'm just more saying I don't want to revisit that story. I didn't like it the first time. Plus why'd they make him bald and fat in that story 😂. Bald fat guys are evil?

[@DavidS.Pumpkin]

We back!

[@kingshadow8782]

Yep!

[@DavidS.Pumpkin]

@@kingshadow8782 aye!

[@justinmcdonald2072]

Its typical Scott to pass the buck, he wanted to lead he needs to stick it out. The rest not enough clues to speak on.

[@kingshadow8782]

Heck Yeah!

[@-ULTIMA]

Hi

[@-ULTIMA]

I think this is my favourite series of from the ashes

[@AifDaimon]

Trevor is a traitor!!

[@IsiahTomas]

Steve is a Trevor!

[@Bojjitsu]

I'm ready for a Dark Beast era.

[@johnathanmartin1504]

It's been done and it sucked. I'm not here for that and if they make Beast evil again I will drop this comic like a hot potato.

[@kingshadow8782]

A.

[@weed22k]

third

[@EnemeeXerro]

Juggernaut has always been my favorite character; now that he's a hero is my dream come true. I have waited for 20+ years to see it.

[@lordm91]

How the hell is Fitzroy back? Also, his powers don't work like that. He needs Bantom or life energy to open portals. This is trash writing.

[@doggyflame]

So mutants have always been a story for representation and talk about discrimination. But in a world with Externals, Inhumans, Atlantis, Aliens, super beens and other transformed persons. The hate for mutants specifically doesn't make sense. Even if you just say well the naturally have their abilities. Inhumans should also get the same hate. Is not like you can specifically tell if someone is a mutant unless they say. Enjoy the stories that are told though.

[@thabangpatiko9869]

If I remember correctly originally mutants were hated because they look like freaks example is nightcrawler

[@doggyflame]

@ OK. This part would make a lot more sense