X4: Foundations // L-Mining - Who mines the most?

I missed to clarify some things:
AR = All-round engine
TR = Travel engine
The color green stands for the best and red for the worst results.
If more things are too unclear, pls ask in the comments.
I gave myself to little time and will, if necessary, take more time in the future to improve quality.
Even if this means I can make less videos.
X4 Resource table for systems
www.qsna.eu/x4/resources/
googlesheet:
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/...
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00:00 Intro
00:40 How did I test
02:55 Results: Miner performance - Asteroid Belt vs Segaris
04:02 L-Mining turrets vs M-Mining turrets
04:14 Influence of Crew on L-Mining
04:48 Different amounts of mining drones
05:02 Price Performance

[@moonraven8394]

Long story short, pick whatever L-Miner you like and don't overmine the area. Nice to know, especially for those of us who go pure-tech for RP reasons.

[@TheMirkosch]

Good video, i smell german efficiency :D

[@evilways961]

Thanks for video...

[@Olexrus]

Good job

[@egoaut]

Very well done, nice prof. Video.❤ In low attention a script makes all the processing of the mining, fighting, travel . . data/outcome. There is a big timegap between high/low attention (old IS/OOS). Personaly i like the Magnetar the most, good allround stats and looking. But the price of the Crane makes it the best deal for bucks.

[@immi9748]

Yeah, the low vs high attention mode problem 🤔, definitely something I will look into in the next weeks. But I had the feeling that things would go out of control for this time 😅

[@egoaut]

​​@@immi9748, i would prepare a save with all mining ships, get in low attention, and take the time of each ship with reload. I would bet on Donia and Lindworm as winner, depending of distance/jumps.

[@immi9748]

@@egoaut When im informed right the high attention bubble is somehow around 150 to 100 km where the player camera is locked in the universe? OK, i quickly test it, and I can still see mining drones above 250 km Stopping every Single ship needs to much attention for me. I was thinking to do the assign to station thing again so I can simply calculate the average from 20-30 deliveries. And do the thing in a medium to small sized system. And one time i sit in the middle of the system and on time in another, so I can test several at once again. But yeah, haveing the same save each time is important

[@egoaut]

Testing all ships would be too much work, i would call the most popular ones.....In X-X3 you had to leave the system (OOS, out of sector), X4 i am not sure maybe +50 km is enough, better teleport in another sector and do it over map. PS: Live-View is like high attention (IS, in sector)

[@immi9748]

@@egoaut First when I started to with X4 youtube I wanted to watch more into fleet stuff and ship performance and now im drifting into the economy corner 😭. But, Yeah, I have to reduce the amount of data. Already had the feeling that this was a data overflow 😅 First, I would leave out the Terran engines, we clearly saw they are on the top but have a bad price performance? Further, I would leave out the Hokkaido and Chthonios E? The Wyvern we need to keep, cause it’s represents a two extreme values at the same time. Everything else seems to be to close together to leave it out without giving me a headache. Also, I wouldn't mix the mining with the jumps thing as you mentioned and first concentrate on high vs low attention mode. Doing both together would produce to many data again. Would make more sense from my perspective to make a test for mineral hauling, even I think it's alway better to reprocess basic ressources where we gathered them and then to ship them.

[@jv85fr]

For the price/performance indicator, could be nice to calculate the return on investment time (how fast if take the ship to pay back its purchase cost)

[@immi9748]

I estimated some numbers quickly. The return should take around 2-4 hours depending on the selling price and mining yield. Numbers were mostly close for all ships. I think that the return rate is more interesting for M-Mining ships since Large Mining ships normally not die. But the normally not die might chance with the Xenon Crisis.

[@rafaelvieira113]

Love the video!! Where can I get this 3d animations?? Like those gif u used on the video

[@immi9748]

You mean the rotating engines and ships? I recoreded the animations from the ingame encyclopedia and croped the ship information away :)

[@liammorris1018]

Hokkaido perform great for me, not sure if it’s the Terran engines though.

[@Airplane38531]

Nice🎉

[@dougdupont6134]

Was your character in the system while the mining was happening? I believe ship behavior changes if the player isn't actually nearby (e.g. drones don't actually launch, their behavior is calculated instead so they aren't destroyed in The Void). How about a version with limited parts? This is awesome, but by the time you can afford a fleet of large miners tricked out with high end gear from the best factions it doesn't really matter what's most efficient haha. How about for your first few miners? What's best for them?

[@PainfullySubjective]

you should write a scientific paper on this

[@Siamon34]

Your video is interesting but your mic is really not great it is difficult to understand you. Try something to limit the reverb for better quality. Gj for your testings.

[@immi9748]

Ty for the hint, I will look into reverb.

[@user-cg3vs9cl1p]

S class for reputation, M class for profit, L clas for safety

[@Raspukek-fu8un]

i suppouzd to say "gj" for work u did, but im not. i cudnt understand shit from these spreadsheets.

[@immi9748]

You are right, I can do better at clarifying AR = All-round engine, TR = Travel, Green = better results and red worse. I’m sure there are further improvements I can do in the future! But to the results. I chose to use a heatmap cause when your results are depending on two different values, data gets messy fast! So, on the horizontal- and vertical-axis you have your variables, and the results are expressed as a colour-gradient. So, the viewer only has only to look out for colours which is way faster compared to comparing numbers.