X4 foundations large Xenon vs Terran space battle. Hornet's nest Part 1/2.

[@thezanzibarbarian5729]

I'm just waiting for the day when players can actually play as a Xenon. Not just be able to capture their ships with a MOD. Good battle to see. And good that you took control of the Asgard. With it's main guns damage, slow fire rate but good 14k range, she was getting in way too close to the station.

[@greydracoplays]

I agree, taking over all sectors as a xenon could be challenging and fun experience. I hope devs will make such game start sooner or later!

[@waltlock8805]

Be rough as Xenon are just AGI (terraformers on steroids). Not much of an economic/trading sim from their point of view.

[@ACountrymansLPs]

be really cool if you could do a fleet breakdown before and after to get an idea of just how powerful the fleet was going in and how much damage it took

[@greydracoplays]

Good idea! For now I can tell that in part 1 only 2-3 S and may be a katana were lost, in part 2 all fighters (like 99) all corvettes and 5 destroyers (1 Syn, 4 Osakas). :)

[@ivanelias3916]

9:08 this is just like a cinematic in Stars Wars :D

[@spudpud-T67]

Great cinematics.

[@geoffreybeene]

2:35 that massive whiff by the Asgard main battery! Painful to watch

[@lsswappedcessna]

god the ai completely sucks at aiming those Asgard main batteries.

[@Hospeld]

Same with osakas (and any other frontal guns in game). Missing everything and dont even trying to engage a target with them. Stupid battle ai ruining whole game sadly. Waiting for 6.0. Egosoft promised to improve ai.

[@lsswappedcessna]

@@Hospeld I've at least heard good things about performance improvements but hell, Avorion performs at least twice as well even with a boatload of graphics mods, plus you can build your own ships if you're into that kinda thing and if not, you can get ships off the workshop. I'm playing that until 6.0 is fully released and mods get updated, because the shitty combat AI, the economy constantly trying to fall apart, and the laughable optimization has really put a hurting on how much I can enjoy the game. For comparison, I get 40-60 FPS in kerbal space program 1 with graphics mods and a decent sized craft. I get in excess of 100 fps in Avorion except when a lot of ships are loading in to the sector such as during a pirate attack. Fallout and Skyrim, both heavily modded, give me around 60, but the frames are capped at 60 due to Bethesda's insistence on using an engine from 1997 that's being kept valid in the modern day by lots of digital duct tape and a prayer. Wanna know what I get in X4? Well, I can start off on a Terran Cadet run getting at least 60 fps in busy areas but close to my monitor's 144 hz limit outside of the busy areas of the sector. As soon as I break from Terran and Pioneer space for the much busier Argon/Antigone/Teladi/Paranid space, however, that fps quickly tanks to around 30 normally, but 25 in the galaxy map and 20 in asteroid sectors. 10 years ago I'd have settled with it, but I was on a laptop from 2011, I kinda had to make do. Now, with a rather expensive custom gaming PC, I kinda expect games to perform well.

[@Mythos27]

Ughhhh! I gritted my teeth to a fine powder watching that STUPID AI miss two main battery shots from the Asgard. Holy fudgemuppets I'm not letting the AI pilot my Asgards. Ever. 😑

[@greydracoplays]

Those were warning shots, Asgard was hoping to evade confrontation XD

[@Cipher00007]

12:23 I love the fact that you have s ahip called Megumin!! I see You are a man of Culture too Megumin Best Girl

[@kvjbreaker7054]

How does one get their carrier to empty their entire stock of fighter craft like at the beginning? The best I can do is launch all of my current craft on launch pads, but how do you get the pads after that to bring up more fighters automatically to launch?

[@greydracoplays]

Fighters are assigned to attack/defend/intercept roles, I chain attack orders on capital ships for carrier group (or attack area), interceptors getting launched automatically as soon as permission to launch is given and respective targets are in the area :)

[@zichenglong6992]

Ahh Xenons... Wiped them out using Asgards. Perfect for one-shotting all their capital ships lol

[@itsVilu]

Do I see plasmas coming out of the Asgard? You're a disgrace to the whole SOL system for touching that commonwealth junk! :P

[@greydracoplays]

I like to think that those are outdated PSPs (at least lets pretend that they are) ;D

[@creedrichards137]

This was very well done. You have a knack for this. However, while the Xenon weren't so spread out here I wonder if it would be possible to have a battle where the Xenon would have superior numbers because otherwise I believe they would always fail in fleet actions for one reason : no main cannons. Any other race could bite a huge chunk out of shields/armor with the mains and terrans have very good main guns. Great vid otherwise!

[@-NB7979-]

Their L gravition turrets are much stronger then any main gun of other races. Basically Xenon gravition turret can solo any other weapon in the universe, except for modified Asgard XL main battery.

[@greydracoplays]

In my opinion Xenon L turrets are the best not only because they are stronger then any other, but also because they are not facing in 1 direction like main guns. For me in most battles main destroyer guns (except for split ones) proved to be close to useless, Ai still don't know how to utilize them properly (in fleet combat). What Xenon actually lack in my opinion is carriers (I miss you Js) and their fighter support. Their S and M ships lack any anti capital ship weaponry and are usually absent or in very small numbers allowing player attack fighters to take down turrets or entire Ks or Is almost with no problem. And lack of range on graviton turrets is real too.

[@greydracoplays]

When come to think of it I agree, it is really strange that they lack any main guns.🤔

[@creedrichards137]

@@-NB7979- I stand corrected, but the rate of fire is still kinda low, slower than all main guns I think. So it gives the main guns an advantage. Especially for the split

[@greydracoplays]

@@creedrichards137 I agree, split have really good main guns, and there are 4 of them, when they use them properly rattlesnakes can reliably take on K 1v1 under AI control. Main guns of other factions are more of a siege anti station weaponry in my opinion (when under AI control destroyers are very often turn away from their target which makes them deal zero damage with main canons). If captital ships had Homeworld’s AI main guns would be much more reliable and actually give an edge over Xenon graviton turrets, but not with AI they currently have in my opinion. 🙃

[@jynlead7046]

What loadouts for your ships are you using?

[@greydracoplays]

Depends on what you want to know - what I'm using for fun in this video or - what actually effective and used by *no fun* fleets. And what ships are you interested in (s, m, L, LX).

[@jynlead7046]

@@greydracoplays gimme some loadouts for both, fun and effective :) Interested in S/M mostly, I want my fighters to swarm and overwhelm them Xenons and Paranids

[@greydracoplays]

@@jynlead7046 My serious loadouts for S/M would be 1.Interseptors Chimera x5 tau accelerators split combat engine (2,3,4 best available) shield (TER > TEL > PAR) 2.Bombers Chimera x5 blast mortars or 5 Torpedoes split combat engine 3. Sector patrol Dragon x4 pulse laser x2 plasma canons x2 ARG Flak M turret or Katana x2 TER pulse x2 Meson streams x2 ARG flak M turrets For fun: anything related faction uses, like here 1.Gladiuses have x4 Meson streams Mk2; 2.Kukri have x2 TER pulse x1 Proton Barrage or x2 TER pulse x1 Meson stream 3.Katana x2 TER pulse x2 Proton Barrage x2 TER pulse M turrets or x4 Meson streams x2 TER pulse M turrets

[@Assassin5671000]

@@greydracoplays What about the L and XL ships also how would you go about attacking xen stations without your ships just trying to use ramming tatctis on them

[@greydracoplays]

@@Assassin5671000 Station combat is edgy, you can't be sure that no one will suicide ram that stalinium xenon bases. If you don't want to lose any ships then attack them OOS with like 20 destroyers. About XL and L. military: L/XL ARG or SPL engines -destroyers syn/rattlesnake all L ARG/SPL plasma; M ARG flaks -BB asgard L ARG plasma, M ARG flaks -Carrier Raptor L ARG plasma; M ARG flaks (3/4), M ARG pulse (1/8), M missile (1/8) heavy swarm (attack only capitals) Fun: literally anything factions related

[@lycan8637]

i saw what you named the Asgard good meme

[@-NB7979-]

Lol Xenon gravition turret solo, what a crazy OP races are they. Terran should have something like that, not an shitty L bolt turret which useless in every situation.

[@greydracoplays]

I really don't get it how the Terrans went from having Point Singularity Projectors that literally generate analog of tiny black hole to what they have in X4.

[@Mythos27]

@@greydracoplays they got nerfed bro. I blame the devs 😂😂😂

[@mintint4965]

Do you use any mods to make Xenon stronger?

[@greydracoplays]

No, but I'm going to try out VRO mod later!

[@charlesanderson533]

What are your system specs. Running smoothly

[@greydracoplays]

i7 8700, gtx 1080, 32 Gb RAM, ssd.

[@charlesanderson533]

@@greydracoplays I'm running AMD 5800x GTX 1660 ti 24g ram still get low fps in heavy space battles

[@charlesanderson533]

@@greydracoplays I sound like I'm complaining I'm not. I understand that the only limit to the game is your PC, I'm very late game 500hrs +. By heavy battles taking 100s of ships and still pull at worst 25fps in fighting them.

[@greydracoplays]

@@charlesanderson533You have a good pc. For this game if you have 25 fps in most battles is very much fine :) I at worst get 15-20 fps.

[@ragnos28]

Nice fleet action :D Ugh, how cringe my beloved Asgard is under AI control :P

[@greydracoplays]

Devs really need to improve it :D

[@ragnos28]

@@greydracoplays Yes and no :P I mean yes if is your ship, but in my game, terran fleets already wipe the floor with the other races fleets (in Getsu Fune they masacre all the ant and arg forces). I dont want to imagine what will happen if terran capital ships get a better AI :P Maybe I can make the terrans engage HOP, to see some resistance against the terran steamroller :)

[@greydracoplays]

@@ragnos28 In my game they are hiding in asteroid belt behind my Xenon control fleet :D

[@yuuzang]

@@greydracoplays same with me, they just dont push really at all. Its going to be up to me to drive back the xenon on almost all fronts.

[@Bigyin1963]

I'm sitting watching this battle yet, your missing the target 3.07

[@greydracoplays]

Im not sure what you mean really

[@colelinse6196]

3:07

[@friedec3622]

The AI is so stupid. Why battleship get so close and personal.

[@constantineceasar]

Looks like a stellar is rip off tbh

[@Candy_Myluv]

nice battle!