X870 Tier List

[@TheAnimeSounds]

i cant stress enough how much those tier lists helped...oh my gosh, short and on point. "this one shares lanes if you use m2's" "this one doesnt shares lanes" "this one shares only if..." Like, uuuughhh! watched 2 videos and i locked 2 boards easly, NOVA (ofc unavailable) or tomahawk, boom done. FAT thumbs up! It has to be shared everywhere.

[@Pretender_Gamer]

So what did u buy? I have this problem now too... :))

[@TheAnimeSounds]

@@Pretender_Gamer well since amd cpu and nova mb is not available then im holding out a bit because maybe when cpu is back then maybe nova board will be back, if not then im going for tomahawk board

[@Pretender_Gamer]

@TheAnimeSounds same... CPU I'm still waiting, keeps delaying pre-order. When I get cpu, I check as well on of those 2 options.

[@anthonymoskunas4310]

Nova is No where :-(

[@chooselife1509]

calm down.

[@justatim8143]

I am confused as I have been watching KZbin for many years and learned how to build my first computer when the 2080 super launched. You are the first person to ever give the proper review on a motherboard which KZbinrs with millions of viewers don't go into the detail that you do. When I buy a motherboard, I want to know How many M.2's I can use, is the board built right with good components and will my GPU run the way it should which you tell it all. 6 or 8 layer PCB's also means a lot as the more layers the better signal from the CPU and better heat dissipation from the VRM's.

[@DonJoe-n2d]

he's amazing, there is only one another good mb guy Laurent's Choice

[@NeoDon1]

ASUS. WAKE UP! STOP Charging MORE FOR LESS! No speacker header, NO GPU Release. No POST Code on some models. NO VALUE ANYMORE!

[@arc00ta]

GPU release is becoming a big deal, I've been using a plastic tool used for opening car interior trim to pop that dang thing for about a year now on most boards.

[@justatim8143]

You used to pay for their quality and NOW you only pay for their Name as the Quality is gone for that 10%-25% markup.

[@NeoDon1]

@@arc00ta Me Too, But No More! MSI Carbon just purchased.

[@arc00ta]

@@NeoDon1 I couldn't resist and picked up a Gigabyte X870 Aorus Elite ICE version, one because its pretty and two because... uh because its pretty honestly. I have no excuses.

[@wopwops0482]

My next build will be the first in over two decades not using Asus. Is any brand reliable now?

[@twistedspine7300]

not surprised at all, still rocking my MSI X570 Tomahawk WIFI and it's the best motherboard i've ever owned. very happy to learn that i can simply pick up the X870 version and know it's a great board. great video!

[@HamsterHearthstone]

Here is a suggestion: Do a tier list for motherboards across types like X670E, X870, X870E etc but focused on the number of peripherals a user plans to use. Like, "If you plan on using a GPU and 2 M.2 SSDs only, this is the best board for the buck with maximum lane speed etc".

[@gabrielguzmann1ufo905]

Excellent video and info on all these X870 boards! I have purchased the MSI Tomahawk X870 and love it. This is my third build at the noob age of 53 and love saving for the parts and putting them together to build myself a Gaming pc.

[@MrDjohi]

What cpu u have on it?

[@gabrielguzmann1ufo905]

@@MrDjohi running the 7800X3D.

[@MrDjohi]

@@gabrielguzmann1ufo905 thx

[@mortal1501]

I bought the S tier board, a week ago without realizing that you were going to put it there. I have done so much research that all I heard was that the MSI Tomahawk was a very good board. I bought the Ryzen 9 9950x to pair it with. I Can't wait to build it, I hope everything goes well.

[@oleksandrrogozhnikov5525]

Thanks, probably the best motherboard tierlist I ever seen! Also checked X870E and B650 tierlists.

[@marloforreal]

This video came in clutch. I was set in getting the ASUS Tuf - good experience with customer support, great aesthetics, and seemed to have what I needed (bar the GPU lane-sharing). Many thanks!

[@Darkswordz]

Newegg currently has a nice deal on the X870 Tomahawk Wifi for $289.99 after rebate, which also comes with a free 500GB SATA-III SSD. 😎

[@RKBenchmarker]

Often they have it for 250, which is what I got it for.

[@jodon9512]

This is exactly what I was looking for, great video with a mountain of info packed in

[@Bunta_Fujiwara]

A combined "what to buy" tier-list for this gen of cpus would be useful (including x670, x670e, x870 and x870e) as the x670 boards will be selling for much cheaper.

[@purevenom9943]

From what I gathered high end intel chips as basically for productivity, ryzen x3d for gaming work loads and non x3d ryzen is mixed.

[@JHXC]

The tomahawk really is the only x870 I've ever considered so far. Even the BIOS has been heavily improved over past msi boards, weird color scheme aside. AND it's one of the cheapest in the chipset.

[@TopShot501st]

Nothing a little black electrical tape cant fix.

[@DizConnected]

The one thing I've noticed with the X870 NON-E Motherboards is that they have a dedicated non-switched PCIe 50 x16 GPU slot, while most of the X870E motherboards have the PCIe 50 x16 GPU slot on a PCIe switch and share lanes with either another PCIe slot or a couple of M.2 slots. The ASRock X870E is the only one I know of that has a dedicated x16 PCIe 5.0 GPU slot. It might be better to get a X870 over a X870E for this reason.

[@HundLing0122]

09:47 The AsRock SteelSeries and the Riptide don't just differ in design. The Riptide has the Intel Killer E3100G Ethernet controller and an additional fourth 4-pin FAN connector. The (atm) 17€ more is therefore quite realistic and Asrock doesn't add anything extra here.

[@RedSliceGaming34]

Just got the MSI Tomahawk for the 9800x3d making the switch from i7-12700k

[@cryzesvk]

That makes the two of us. Upgrading from 12700KF

[@Mustafa-h1t1h]

Thats not an upgrade

[@RedSliceGaming34]

@Mustafa-h1t1h How so? The 9800x3d literally is above the 14900k in terms of performance across the board and I upgraded from a ddr4 platform using a 12700k. I already am running higher graphics than I was able to run at a much more stable fps on all games

[@silverwerewolf975]

Here thinking about which mobo to buy, maybe the msi, upgradin from 8600k to 9800 xd

[@RKBenchmarker]

Some great options there! Also, the Tomahawk is often on sale for $250, which is an incredible bargain!

[@KarasCyborg]

Great Presentation. Q: If you want to build up a computer in small stages, a video showing bare minimum configuration just to test the motherboard at different stages to make sure it's good before you slap everything together only to be dissapointed that the MB was DOA.

[@greenDAVID-n2x]

ASROK X870 Pro RS HAS ECC DEBUG! WHY DID YOU SAY IT DOESNT HAVE DEBUG?

[@LemonsGG]

There have been sooo many issues with ram compatibility and bios on the MSI tomahawk, I can't decide which x870 to get for my 9800x3d, I'm sooo frustrated

[@marwanalkhaleel4176]

get the steel legend or GIGABYTE X870 AORUS Elite

[@mehmethan4116]

X870 Tomahawk al.Ram uyum sorunu yok.Ben Lexar marka DDR5 Ram kullanıyorum.

[@silverwerewolf975]

Source? By hardware unboxed it has great ram support oc

[@LemonsGG]

Doesn't matter anymore anyway. Decided to stay away from MSI this go around and have had no issues... Happy I stayed away 😊

[@silverwerewolf975]

@@LemonsGG mmmm which mobo did you get

[@TungstenS7]

Want to do a 9800x3D/5090 build for my new PC. Been hearing people saying X870/E is just a sidegrade to B650/X670. Should I get a good B650E board (Rog Strix E-E), or should I go for something like the X870E Nova (or even the X870 Tomahawk)? I'm not too concerned about price because I want something to last a long time, but I don't want to throw money unnecessarily either. I play FPS games/OSRS and looking to get the 1440 480hz monitor.

[@GamerDad-007]

Good luck on finding the Nova, I went with Taichi and am very happy with my decision.

[@RKBenchmarker]

If you are already spending that much, and on the new 9000-series, definitely go with an x870e - I'd go with the Carbon as it is the best $500 offering. And I even like it better than the Hero (which is 700).

[@R6ex]

Likewise, for my 9800x3D/5090 build, I'll get the ASUS ROG Strix X870E-E Gaming WiFi for its superior audio (since the Hero is too much $$$). Hope this mobo will last 10 years!

[@RKBenchmarker]

@@R6ex The Strix-E is a very good board also... it would be tied for my second pick. And honestly, the on-board audio is pretty much equal across this price range. You won't be able to tell a difference if there even is one. And I say that being an audio enthusiast myself.

[@arora935]

Like most things it depends on your use case. Based on my understanding I would personally recommend the X870E Nova as it offers all features the average person would want and more while still not being overly expensive. Sure, you can probably get away with something cheaper but if you don't know your future needs spending a little extra is worth it for the peace of mind. You can always buy a more expensive board but let's be honest, if you don't know you need a 500 dollar board you are not someone who needs it.

[@elsa9026]

MSI MPG X870E Carbon WiFi is also good

[@JonathanPolis]

I absolutely love this content. So easy to digest. Thank you!

[@Leopardipzg]

Is there a list that reveals which X870/X870E boards have a VRM fan?

[@sunnygold7513]

Ive been eying the MSI x870, looks like Ill be getting that for my 9800x3D

[@jattanu94]

fantastic video. thank you for making this.

[@NikoEverwinter-nz1rx]

The Tomahawk was the one I was eying as well, but since I'm probably not gonna switch platform for the next 10 years or so, i went for for the Asrock Nova instead, just 100 bucks more.

[@RKBenchmarker]

What does the Nova offer you (that you will use) that the Tomahawk doesn't?

[@NikoEverwinter-nz1rx]

I have no rational answer. I WANTED it and the price difference between the Tomahawk and the Nova was not great enough for me to go with the cheaper option.

[@RKBenchmarker]

@@NikoEverwinter-nz1rx lol, my good man, I truly appreciate your honesty :) The only real consideration I'd mention is that the 3rd PCIE on the Tomahawk is x4 and much more useful that the x2 on the Nova. And your use case will likely change over a decade :) Enjoy either way!

[@worldwanderingfisherman2166]

The nova and tomahawk are the best boards for the price, remember that this tier list is cost benefit, so features x price.

[@johnraahauge4552]

@@RKBenchmarker just more USB and M2 ports. If you don’t need them, the Tomahawk might actually be a better board than the Nova. You get the option of 2 x Gen 5 M.2 drives connected directly to the CPU if you sacrifice USB4. The Nova only has an option of 1. The Nova shines in the amount of unshared M.2 slots, but if you don’t need them, the Tomahawk might be a better option.

[@NeoDon1]

Hope your feeling better? Thanks so much for presenting this in this vformat qand fasion. Nice

[@WellnessDelivert]

Keep going. You do very good work. Thank you for your time.

[@worldwanderingfisherman2166]

The eagle is terrible in every sense x the gaming x, the eagle has 14x60, the gaming x has 16x60 vrm, recent test on hardwareunbox said the eagle hit 76c on vrm while the gaming x hit 61c. This was the only thing I did not agree with your tier list, the eagle is tier E, the gaming x is D for me. Also the Auros elite is as bad as the gaming x on vrm 16x60 however is has a post code and that itself earns a A tier, post code debug is very important.

[@hristobotev9726]

There is add-on cards for post codes. And they cost just 20 bucks, not 100+ when including in mb

[@worldwanderingfisherman2166]

@@hristobotev9726 You are right but how can we trust any chinese add on in our motherboards? for all we know it might be a trojan horse.

[@SuperHiddenaccount]

they posted a comment on that video saying there was an error, it hit 67 C instead of 76 C after a retest

[@haydenbarlow7234]

which is the best out of the A tier

[@Gaming-Tuben]

This helped a whole lot. Thanks!

[@RobFisherUK]

It turns out the main problem with the ASRock Nova (for me) is it doesn't have any x4 PCIe slots (which I need for a Blackmagic Decklink card). Since I like the MSI Carbon, I'll probably end up with that one. I suppose I could also look at X670E boards, but I really like some of the convenience features on these new boards. An alternative would be to put my Decklink into an external PCIe enclosure and use USB4, but so far I have not found a small, affordable enclosure. They're all made for enormous GPUs.

[@jarnoojasaar]

Why dont you put your x4 card into x16 slot?

[@ZachAttack2U]

You just earned a new Sub! 🔥

[@lucaromanovanetti6594]

I think that asrock riptide could earn the A tier at least, it has everything that matters, even a bios flashback button, and disables the second pcie slot when using the third m.2 slot (seems very useful to me), it also has a sturdy 14 phases 80A VRM. 20 bucks more for a little RGB is the market's sad truth...

[@karintosco]

nice video as always! would be awesome if you can do a intel Z890 tier list too

[@Johnthefearless]

Which do you think would he better to get, the x870 Tomahawk or a x670e gaming plus by msi? Possibly for a 7800x3d or 9800x3d when it drops?

[@arc00ta]

Asus is probably pushing some voltage as well because they seem to be coming out on top by a decent margin in testing, there are certainly some shenanigans there.

[@Aerobrake]

The X870-I has post codes if you plug in the hive it comes with, and it doubles as a DAC manging room for more USB.I also intend on building an X870 ITX system so I don't really have any other options, still a good board for what I plan on doing!

[@HiMrHeyWilly]

This helped me so much! Thank you!

[@maxsmirnik9032]

I am building a new PC and thinking which MB to buy. I shortlisted x870 MSI Tomahawk and x870e Asrock Nova. But I found only one Nova board for ridiculous 470EUR. Is it OK to choose Tomahawk instead of Nova or it worth wayting for better price or even another board?

[@jvidia]

I'm only the same boat. My fear besides the money difference is the asrock bios that seems so outdated 😮

[@petemisc4291]

Would the MSI mag 670E Tomahawk be a better choice for someone on a budget?

[@DoCKathos]

Thank you for comparing a handful of boards. I've built several computers for both myself, my dad, and a friend over the years but I've always been lost when it comes to motherboards. I had narrowed my choices down to the Tomahawk, TUF Gaming, and b650e Aorus and maybe a few other b650e's. I was already leaning towards the Tomahawk based on comments in a few other videos and some reddit browsing but I think this video has finally sold me on the Tomahawk. I was hoping to save a bit of money on the B650E boards that seem to be a little bit cheaper but fuckin hell I'm already going to be spending $3k on a new cpu/mobo/ram and the new 50 series when it comes out, what's another $60?

[@arturperzyna5453]

I wish you could compare motherboards also based on bios features.

[@DreadBoi504]

Will the ASUS TUF x870 Plus be good for a 4080 Super with AMD R7 9800x3d processor? That’s the combo I went with that’s on the way and I hope it’s at least good enough.

[@kebbed]

Small correction, the Prime X870-P does have a big latch for the top PCIe slot. Otherwise this is a good video.

[@sebas88R]

I recently buy a cpu Ryzen 7 9800x3d witch motherboard you will suggest to buy to pair up. I have a budget aroud 600-700$. Some peoples recommend me the riptide asrock but after seeing your videos im not so sure anymore

[@AtahanDemir-q1m]

I am undecided. Price is not important The best features and performance I want. ASROCK X870E Taichi and ASUS ROG STRIX X870E-E Gaming WiFi? Which one do you think your comment is valuable to me.

[@baelorswift]

wow thanks for this! I picked up an asus x870-p but if adding a 4th m.2 makes my 2 sata ports useless which i use for an hdd raid ill return it and pick up the msi board. Thanks!! You've got my sub and thumbs up!

[@luismarcoperezthemsel1677]

So are you saying the tomahawk is even better than the top tier cards?

[@Adrian_Franco]

What an absolute chad of a video.

[@Rwayne-]

What's the exact difference between A-E-P-F ?

[@dodongpabz7606]

Thanks for honest review. Question, Taichi b650E is now 15usd more difference with tomahawk x870, which is better?

[@thedjoker3521]

Taichi it’s a fucking beast

[@HansOilaf]

Asus TUF has Powercharge for Fronthub USB, I think that's a big point!

[@RKBenchmarker]

Many boards have a similar feature... but I'm now dropping a few grand for a phone charger... that would be the least of my wants/needs for a new PC build.

[@HansOilaf]

@@RKBenchmarker what's your problem? and no not many board have this feature in this generarion it seems only the insane priced msi godlike has it. why not consider this feature in a pc build? it obviously would be helpful for almost anybody. but sure if you don't wanna see outside your scope and you are only interested in how many M.2 slots they can fit and are useless for most users (most will need 1-2), that's on you. or pls tell me what's more important for you.

[@RKBenchmarker]

@@HansOilaf My apologies. I meant that in a lighthearted manner and did not mean for it to come across in a belligerent manner. I do not find Powercharge on this board. It has a 30w fast charge. Many, if not most boards have a 60w+ fast charge. And though it may be helpful, it isn't a high priority for a PC build... other things are of much higher importance - resource allocation for example.

[@HansOilaf]

@@RKBenchmarker i didn't mean the power charge my apologies i didn't know there was a difference. what the difference is, is the other boards have the fast charge on the rear and not on the fronthub usb, what is in my opinion much more convenient. it's just my point of view and i'm looking to buy one of these new boards and is indeed a factor for me. it was not before, only after i found out about it on this board tbh and it just seems like a smart feature like i said for almost anybody, not some special power user use case.

[@RKBenchmarker]

@@HansOilaf I agree with you. 👍🏻

[@irfankorkmaz6818]

Hello teacher, I have a question; Which motherboard is suitable for AMD Ryzen 9 7950X Sixteen Core 4.5 GHz Processor? MSI X870 Gaming Plus WiFi MSI Pro X870-P WiFi MSI MAG X870 Tomahawk WiFi Asus ROG Strix X870-A Oyun WiFi Gigabyte X870 Gaming X WiFi7 Asus Prime X870-P WiFi Gigabyte X870E Aorus Pro investment in the future :)

[@libertaphoenix]

Thanks for this video!

[@EugeneDebugger]

Which one is the best for 4 DIMM RAM setup?

[@MrBearKinng]

Would the gigabyte x870 Aorus elite wifi 7 become s tier due to the latest gigabyte bios update info they released with utilisation of the x3D chips?

[@danholliday8099]

I’m planning a 9800x3d with 7900xtx, custom loop, I’m torn on MB - was looking at x870 riptide, what do you think? Need WiFi 7, planty if connectivity headers, any better ones?

[@daemonorcus8857]

Hey GTR, what would you think of the ASRock X870 RIPTIDE WIFI AM5 AMD X870 SATA 6Gb/s ATX Motherboard if it was at a $250 price tag (new) would you raise it to A tier?

[@gibihm7772]

Would you say the AORUS X870E Pro can also be put in A-Tier since it is an enhanced version of the Elite modell?

[@PerfectExsneeder]

Please do Z890 tier list!

[@ND_USR]

Asrock equal to the prime? Look those mosfet and vrm then let's talk.

[@williampietraszewski4140]

Which boards have the 320 wifi7? Seems just the msi? Almost pulled trigger on a taichi but for $450 it looks like it only has 160.

[@Dreadpirateflappy]

Not sure why anyone would consider an Asus or Gigabyte board for X870. nerfing the main PCIe slot if you fill the M.2 slots? just moronic. Asus seems to failing hard from it's glory days. Gonna get the MSI Tomahawk I think seems the best by a wide margin, Won't get a board without a Debug post LED display. beeps are so unhelpful.

[@Punkhunter25]

I got the gigabyte eagle as part of a combo deal on Newegg to get a 9800X3D at msrp. I am getting a gen 5 pcie ssd, but only plan on getting one. Do you think the included heatsink will be sufficient, or should I be getting an aftermarket cooler? I won't be doing many big file transfers, so I dont expect to be really pushing the ssd, though I know they idle warm.

[@GameTechReviews]

If you are getting the Crucial T705 or T700, get the one that includes its own heatsink as the one with the eagle is not good enough to handle a Gen 5 drive.

[@Punkhunter25]

@GameTechReviews thanks for the advice. I am getting a T700 2TB. I better go order a heatsink.

[@GameTechReviews]

@@Punkhunter25 The T700 can be purchased with or without heatsink. The included heatsink it comes with is good.

[@finger00]

I haven't seen a case with a speaker since the early 90's 😂

[@dominikchyt1159]

I am building new rig after my x99 motherboard and i7 5930k retired. Can you help me with choice? MSI X870E CARBON or ASROCK X870E TAICHI. I am planning to buy 5080 for gpu and I have R7 7800x3d for cpu. Msi is atx 3.1 and pci 5.1 compatibility. What is better future wise?

[@tj40hang]

I got the Nova x870e

[@hirmor666]

Put the names on the boards in your list. Would be useful.

[@alperuyanik1907]

MSI MAG X870 Tomahawk WiFi Gaming VS Asus ROG Strix X870E-E Gaming WiFi ?

[@Skyouu]

Not the same price... 😅

[@xennori1409]

@@Skyouu Did he ask about the price?

[@Skyouu]

@@xennori1409 Could you really compare two differents products which are not the in the same range of products ?

[@xennori1409]

@@Skyouu Isnt that what comparisons are for? Unless you think all E versions are better than Tomahawk. I would not pick X870E auros elite over this.. I would pick the Strix tho.

[@Skyouu]

@@xennori1409 all E versions like you say are mostly more complete than non-E versions. So compare the tomahawk vs the strix is a bit non-sense because "of course" the strix is better, but again it's not really the same range of products ( in terms of price). When I compare some boards, I check what we have for the quality/perf/functionalities per price...

[@bharathgutta8355]

i just built with rog strix x870 which i bought for 350$. now gigabyte aurus elite is on sale for 230$. do you think i should return rog and get gigabyte?

[@anshurajpoot6009]

Yes nd get the gigabyte or msi tomahawk or asrock nova return ur Asus rog strix(shit)

[@EllisMT]

anyone know anything about the new msi X870 gaming plus wifi model? would like to know if it is worth it at a price of 230€ (~237,16 US$)

[@dominionian7193]

@11:25... I would see your point if this was in the 80s/90s, but does anyone ever use the mobo speaker header anymore now? I dont know of any cases that even come with one

[@fonty012]

Which motherboard has the better protection against shorting.. i have shorted 2 gigabyte x670e pro by using KVM... I THREW AWAY but makes me think... any other brand with better protection for undervoltage overvoltage over current under current static current etc

[@RKBenchmarker]

How do you short a mobo (let alone 2) by using a KVM?

[@fonty012]

@@RKBenchmarker power cycle without disconnecting the KVM which i though was not an issue... kvm was supplying power to motherboard after disconnecting the main power cable

[@fonty012]

Motherboards should be protected against stupid things like this. Clearly gigabyte doesnt have any...

[@RKBenchmarker]

@@fonty012 Are you a member of his Dissccord? I'd like to talk with you.

[@fonty012]

@@RKBenchmarker i have just joined, fonty4358 is my id

[@chunkynugget]

I want to ask why gpu pci lane sharing is bad? pcie 16x vs 8x for the gpu has minimal performance difference.

[@StereoGraph4]

Now I’m unsure which to get

[@mehmethan4116]

X870 Tomahawk yeterli olur.

[@fossil4749]

Hi could do with some help, sadly my budget wont stretch to an X870E board and cannot see a vid on b650 boards but im looking at using a ROG STRIX B650E-F GAMING WIFI with either crucial T705 2tb m.2 or a sabrenbt (just the one m.2) do I need to worry about pcie lane sharing ?

[@denisj32]

I have MSI PRO X870 P WIFI motherboard and I wont to know if this main heatsink (for Gen 5 M.2) possible to cooling down the Gen 5 M.2 ssd? because is not double side it. @Game Tech Reviews

[@nel5460]

Any white card that don't share pci lanes or what ? I cant décide betwen asus x870-a or gygabite x870 e aorus pro ice 😢

[@sarthak___007__]

Asrock nova is also great

[@justatim8143]

All the X870 boards from Gigabyte only come with 6-Layer PCB Mid Loss except the Master. It is sad that their B650 elite ax had 8-Layer but the lowest grade audio or I would have own that one and their Ice boards are ALL a joke as they were built late and charged more and they only have 6-Layer pcb and ALC897 audio.

[@SatoCx333]

Im considering purchasing MSI pro X870-P as I don't need a quality audio driver and more than one USB type C port that Tomahawk has, as i use Bluetooth to connect my headphones and i don't need too many usb ports and blah blah. Pro has all the latest functions anyways. Moreover, my pc case will be white so i personally prefer Pro over tomahawk regarding the aestheticism. Tbh i don't like the green logo on the black metal lol

[@koraykorac5463]

You forgot the mantion important part about Msi x870 Tomnahawk. Its use problematic audio chipset ALC4080 not updated version of ALC4082. Even b650 Steel Legend use ALC4082. For 375EU motherboard its a letdown.

[@rust8042]

Did you missed the asus x870e hero which was around $700 🤨

[@GameTechReviews]

That's X870E which is on my other list. This list is only X870.

[@chunkynugget]

Just got the new 9800x3d but I wonder if there are mAtx boards on the horizon?

[@shephusted2714]

add some grapghics on the chart for the winners and mention the best mobo again at the end by name - it is a good review you just have to pump up the volume and name names more

[@justatim8143]

I disagree with 1 Motherboard and that is the Gigabytes Elite as it a long with ALL except the Master have only 6-Layer PCB which is Mid Loss between the CPU and memory and CPU to GPU.

[@JamesGibson-fg5lj]

Please respond im stuck on choosing the gigabyte x870e aouros master or the x870e carbon wifi. Please anyone help. Like say which has better wifi or Bluetooth

[@Half_Finis]

hi i dont know, hope this helped

[@Vnemes1sV]

@@Half_Finis it did wonders, thanks

[@Half_Finis]

@@Vnemes1sV you're welcome mate im enjoying my x870e carbon wifi.

[@jackskalski3699]

Has anyone tried an 8k polling mouse on the lightining ports of the asrock Steel legend for example? Curious if it's marketing talk or really something you can feel?

[@Amfibios]

the Aorus Xtreme is coming in a few days

[@init_yeah]

Is there a x870 m at yet?

[@chico_fiesta]

People i need help. I want to upgrade to am5, i only want pcie gen5 x16 for gpu and analog 5.1 audio connection. Its either Asus b650e-f ( b650e-e is outside of my budget) or X870 Tuf plus. Am i missing any other sub 300 euro board with that ?

[@NotoriousRKB]

Is the gigabyte auros elite 6 layer or 8 layer?

[@Aeonia92]

6 layer. You can always count on Gigabyte to go cheap somewhere

[@marwanalkhaleel4176]

why does this matter? will the MB not be able to support its claims of RAM speeds or somthing?

[@R6ex]

Tomahawk or Hero for me. Probably Hero for durability.

[@nepo10ball]

Where tier is asrock x870e nova ? Compare to msi tomahawk x870 vs nova x870e which one do you recommendations?? Msi x870 / x870e nova?

[@Hawky2947]

That's in his other video X870E Tier List from two weeks ago. Check that one out. Tomahawk is fine if you're on a tight budget.

[@RKBenchmarker]

As he mentions at 0:14-0:26, this tier list is the non-E single chipset boards. The Nova is in a different offering/class and is in his x870e version tier list video from 2 weeks earlier than this video - check it out. However, to compare some of the main differences of the Nova to his top-ranked non-E Tomahawk: The NOVA - $50-$100 more... has 1 more USB-A and more faster USB-A's... PCIE_3 is only Gen3 x2 and shares lanes with the slow gen3 x2 M.2_5 (you can only use one or the other and only at x2 meaning 2 lanes, not 4). In this regard, the PCIE_3 is better on the Tomahawk being an x4 (providing 4 lanes instead of only 2), and this is a very important feature that puts the Tomahawk ahead of the Nova. ---- BOTH offer PCIE_1 (GPU) with no lane sharing... and 4 M.2s; however, on the Tomahawk, if you use the M.2_3, then PCIE_3 will run at x2. And M.2_3 will be disabled if PCIE_3 is used and set to x4 in the bios. At this price point, how many people are using 4 M.2s? Overall, I'd choose the Tomahawk. But if your use-case needs one more M.2 and the pcie slots are no issue for you, then the Nova may be your choice. The Tomahawk is hard to beat for $300 - and it often is listed for $250, which is near impossible to beat! I hope this info was helpful. (What a way to start a Sunday morning lol)

[@nepo10ball]

@@RKBenchmarker nice info dude , I'll think twice about deciding, because the price different between tomahawk & x870e nova is arround $40 usd here.., do you think tomahawk still smart/best choice at that price different with nova?

[@RKBenchmarker]

@@nepo10ball Thanks. Yes, mainly because the Tomahawk has more useful PCIE_3. Where are you?

[@princeofcaladan]

Glad i bought the tomahawk

[@B_r_u_c_e]

Thank you.

[@Skyouu]

Just bought the x870 aorus elite wifi 7 ICE, for me gpu sharing lanes in x8/x4/x4 is completely ok, because theorically 5x8 pcie port = 4x16 pcie port, we have no gpu on the market with pcie 5, so it's completely ok, I prefer to have 3x gen5 slots for my M2. The tomahawk is nice but I don't want run my nvme gen 5 in x2 😢 or choose to desactivating the usb 4 ports (its an heresy) to have the M2 slots in pcie 5x4 speeds. It's a non sense. And I think you loose some usability, I prefer have them ( usb 4 ports )available to link some external drives ; and the speeds benefits of your nvme gen 5 drives. I prefer the 3 slots in gen 5 of the aorus. Asrock nova, and Taichi lite are bangers in X870E. For my use, this aorus elite wifi 7 is so cool 😎 even the 60 A vrm ( 😕..80 A could be cool...) I'm waiting the shipping, with XPG lancer rgb DDR 6000 C30 white 32Gb.

[@neshd]

Hey, what do you recommend for ryzen 9800x3d 😊 thanks

[@Hawky2947]

Check the S-tier, I guess.