Xbox - It's Over

[@ReforgeGaming]

LIVE DISCUSSION - kzbin.infoEN7lT4dVDak

[@jacooosthuizen3593]

Phil realised xbox games currently made are all mediocre and they wont be selling hardware for the next few years with such mediocre games. Only way was to buy more studio's and create a more casual gamer appeal rather than cater to the small xbox hardcore people. Look at this way, if you see Phil as microsoft gaming then it makes sense as he just uses Xbox brand name to make it sound like Xbox is doing great! Distract from the fact that nothing exciting has come from Xbox this whole generation! COD Bo6 exciting? Mate its been a multiplat game yet all the xbots say thankyou Sony you making xbox rich lol. Man these clowns dont get it.

[@brandonphilander661]

If people are honest, it's been over for quite some time. The signs were all there.

[@ReforgeGaming]

agreed

[@stonespirehall2998]

Only those in denial or out of touch would disagree

[@mrmack3176]

​@@stonespirehall2998 PlayStation pro is siting everywhere cause of the price how much you think PlayStation 6 gonna be if the price was the issue for the pro what's makes you think people gonna spend 1000$ on the 6

[@jacooosthuizen3593]

Yip 2013. RIP

[@Luke973T]

Even phil has all but outright said so. Especially when he said that they lost the worst possible generation last gen.

[@tremolo1297]

You put the perfect bow on it brother. “Turning everything into an Xbox is turning Xbox into nothing”.

[@forhyrule8428]

they are 10 years too early. imagine they would have focused on great exclusives with this and the next generation and after that went to cloud gaming when its actually possibly relevant

[@mrmack3176]

They are marketing game pass which is part of Xbox not everything is Xbox hardware

[@ReforgeGaming]

exactly

[@ThijsSH]

@@mrmack3176 game pass is also on PC

[@LurnWell]

Some of you will never understand branding outside of KZbin...

[@Ha1frican]

5:51 this whole statement just bothers me because all you have to do is look at Nintendo to see it’s not a good comparison. If you make quality exclusive software, people will buy your console. Everyone I know that has a Switch also has a PlayStation bc they feel like they need both to play what they want. You don’t need to convince people to sell their PlayStation, you just need to convince them to buy an Xbox and they just haven’t had the software to do that.

[@LuisPerez-5]

Exclusivity is dying

[@alex_gaming9585]

I can see a future where all of Xbox's games are releasing day one on PlayStation 5 and Nintendo switch 2.

[@Geroen-XP]

Phil’s interview in the Kinda Funny Games podcast was everything I needed to know about the current direction Xbox is going.

[@lukastemberger]

Phill is always an expert at what works and what consumers want AFTER his idea fails.

[@blvd6969]

The denial of Xbots is mind boggling

[@ALL-rf9gl]

They've been crazy for a decade. The cope is UNREAL!!

[@pacmanonbike6072]

People always say the Market is doing this… but really XBox has been playing from behind since the 360.

[@ReforgeGaming]

yup, the market isn't do this, xbox is

[@darriuscole8544]

Microsoft doesn't see the gaming market as a place where they look for ways to innovate; they see it as something that they exploit for profit. None of this stuff that they are talking about adds any value for the consumer or the developers. Microsoft is trying to sell a subscription service where people can play old games. Why does anybody need Microsoft in order to do that now? The answer is "they don't." The developers don't need a new subscription service in order to sell their old games; the gamers don't need a new subscription service in order to buy old games. Microsoft is simply looking for ways that they can make money. In addition, $20 a month is enough money to buy 3 or 4 AAA titles per year. If Game Pass is to have a chance Microsoft has to begin with developing games that can only be played over Game Pass, in other words, MAKE EXCLUSIVES FOR IT. That is the same thing gamers have been telling them about Xbox for decades.

[@conker2185]

Hit the nail perfectly

[@AI-AITUM]

Yeup!! But then people want to turn around and say Sony is doing this and are greedy. What I've seen from Sony is them implementing everything that people (the true, serious consumers and fans) have asked for. They've implemented all inclusiveness, gave us PS Portal, VR2, they remastered games for fan's favs, they gave us new hardware (which I personally most definitely wanted), and they are bringing us new games! For people to say Sony has no games is just ridiculous to me, when Xbox actually has no games, and now no new hardware! Then trying to shade those facts...and this doesn't trigger anybody to see this as greedy when Phil said what he said? Give me a break 🙄. I actually think it's smart what Microsoft is doing, I mean you still gotta make that bread and butter somehow. But that shot they took at Sony was kinda underhanded to make themselves look better than what people are seeing. Just goes to show, always go with your intuition because I never really cared for Xbox and their games. Always thought it was boring aside from halo, and even then that kinda got boring to me. When I came back to gaming, got the switch (almost instant regret) and now I'm on the PS5 Pro--instant gratification.

[@blaket1841]

If you're a patient gamer and buy them on sale, 20 a month is enough to buy 24 games a year or more. Games often drift under 10 eventually or during a huge sale. Most of my library was bought for that price only a year or two after initial release. So yeah 24 games I own vs having limited time to play month to month and not even finishing 1 game per month sometimes due to schedules, like many adults. Game pass is only a great value if you want games on launch that are owned by MS. Even then that many amazing titles don't release every year owned by MS. This year they had Black Ops? That's all you're getting for 240 dollar value really?

[@westleywright2732]

Starting to feel like Xbox is pulling a Sega move soon Master Chief will be with Mario and Sonic in an Olympic Sports game on Nintendo 😂

[@CalebPratt2]

Well Crash Bandicoot isn't even owned by Playstation anymore. At least they still have their mascot 💀

[@carlschrappen9712]

Phil says there's going to be future consoles, but he also said that Arkane Austin wasn't going to be closed because of Redfall, and we all know how that turned out. I just can't believe him when all of Xbox's actions suggest the opposite.

[@DarthAscension]

Xbox answers to MS the purse holder, money talks and we saw how little control the heads of Xbox have when it comes to MS CEO and board.

[@1969Makaveli]

Arkane Austin had to close look what the game did. It was like Concord and that game flopped harder than Red Fall.

[@shawnwilliams1917]

If you haven't moved on from Xbox hardware yet, I genuinely wonder. What could possibly keep you there?

[@rickeyhernandez2094]

I have all 3 ps5 switch and series x and will continue to play all 3. xbox will have hardware moving forward. Hardware is a loss leader in the industry. Games subscription services and micro transactions are where the money is made.

[@Citizen_JV]

"The community is divided. Some fans stand by Xbox, praising its commitment to inclusivity and backward compatibility while others feel disconnect as exclusives don’t seem to hit the mark compared to rival titles." "Concerns about Xbox's ability to deliver new, exciting content dominate discussions. A growing sentiment dreads the thought of Xbox slipping into irrelevance."

[@ReforgeGaming]

great thoughts

[@Citizen_JV]

@@ReforgeGaming Thank You

[@kyleashton1]

Nope, it's over. Xbox is dead and gone. So we can stop talking about it now, right?

[@Grayson950815]

This channel is becoming Dramcastguy2

[@PixEcho]

Xbox is literally doing the same thing, none of this is new lol.

[@ReforgeGaming]

huh?

[@PixEcho]

@@ReforgeGaming Just saying that, them marketing "This is an Xbox" isn't new to what they've been doing as a company, expanding their ecosystem. They're just putting to words what they've been wanting to do, none of their messaging however is "new" or surprising. I think the fear from most people is that this means the console portion is dead which isn't what Xbox is saying, they're growing the ecosystem 'FROM' the Xbox - as they grow gamepass and put it on devices like Firestick etc.

[@mrmack3176]

​@@PixEcho Xbox roadmap was leaked and said new console and alot more stuff for hardware and people think Xbox is leaving hardware can't make this up people just want something to complain bout and most of the noise is people who probably don't even have a Xbox are play on one saying it's dead

[@CJj_Louieman585]

@@ReforgeGamingdon’t forget Sony lawsuit 💀🤣

[@mikeondamic2019]

I knew it was over when I bought a Series S and tried to play Destiny 2 on it. Couldn't even run around the tower at 60 fps and there were stutters and all that... and let's not talk about PvP 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@krispybowgod9656]

If I had to take a guess I’d say Phil Spencer is probably not lying when he says the console gaming market isn’t growing anymore but that doesn’t mean it’s not a profitable market anymore. It’s just the fact that Xbox has such a small slice of that pie that they can’t make any profit or at least not enough profit to make Microsoft happy. Sony and Nintendo have such large customer bases that they are likely happy to keep serving their customers and making revenue even if the overall pie graph isn’t growing much anymore

[@chrismuck4206]

As a loyal xbox customer since the beginning, It's disappointing but saw this coming. I have been spreading out to other platforms since earlier this year. First Nintendo then Steam and now PS5pro which is my first Sony console since the PS2. I will no longer be buying 3rd party on xbox with the future of my massive digital library unclear.

[@LuisRivera0506]

My XSX all of a sudden stopped working. When I turn it on it says “Xbox is Dead”

[@AI-AITUM]

😂😂 that's 🥶 blooded

[@BiggRodgaming]

Call of duty, Stalker 2 , Indiana Jones and Avowed coming soon….. my question is where are the PlayStation games?

[@toastyburger]

Xbot always waiting until next year.

[@ReforgeGaming]

Um. Black ops 6 sold 70% of its copies on PS5, champ. Indiana Jones will be on PS5 soon. Avowed is 30fps on Xbox, lol Did you get to play these on Xbox? Stellar blade? FF7 rebirth? Rise of the ronin? Helldivers 2? Grand Blue Fantasy Relink? Black Myth Wukong? Astro Bot? Lego Horizon? Hahah. Where are the PlayStation games? The GOTY podium, bud. Lmao

[@BiggRodgaming]

@ True but you’re missing the point of the question… where are the PlayStation games….?

[@trinigooner8865]

​@@BiggRodgaming oh so even though he listed out all of those PS exclusive games released this year...you're really gonna double down on sounding like a moron huh bro??🤔

[@MAR-jq7co]

Lol, u r talking about multiplats, you bots are so sad lol. Ghost of tsushima 2 will destroy all these games.

[@forhyrule8428]

Great video. Thats exactly what Im thinking for like a year now. And yes - sure this will be good for Microsoft, since they can possibly reach more players etc and get more money but Microsoft doesnt care about Xbox anymore and if the last loyal fans finally understand it I would be shocked if all of them stay on "Xbox". The only reason they are calling it this way --"everything is an Xbox"-- is because they fear to lose their fanbase if they suddenly announce from one day to another how Xbox isnt a priority anymore. Imagine they would have instantly told their fanbase how theres no red line for what games are coming to Playstation. I swear these fans are getting mindcontroled. First there were ONLY 4 games going over, now theres no red line. Now everything is an Xbox and later on nothing is an Xbox. Im dead serious when I say I always prefered Playstation and PC after the 360 days, BUT Xbox is by far the most consumer friendly of them all with Gamepass and their goal to bring their games to as many platforms, devices and players as possible. I honestly aprecciate it. Just sad for them gamers like me care about game quality and exclusives. I truly believe if exclusives die (the selling point of a platform) the overall game quality will go down and I have to say it went already down with Gamepass, but the price will go higher and higher to a point where they arent consumer firendly anymore... trust me. And btw since they obviously reach to a new audience, what exactly tells them their new audience will be loyal ? Edit : Cloud gaming in Germany for example is basically impossible since our internet is absolutely garbage ngl

[@ReforgeGaming]

thank you!

[@Drebin4209]

I’ll miss the big 3 duking it out. I will not roast marshmallows over the heaping fiery wreck that is the xb brand. My favorite gen was the ps3 era. All 3 were rocking. Everyone was having a blast. Things change but I don’t have to like it.

[@ReforgeGaming]

i wanted a continued fight, not this

[@tr1bes]

I want Sega back.

[@CriticalSasquatch]

Why Ponies are hyper focused on Xbox 24/7. Why? Fear…….they got nothing and they see this giant wave about to drown them out of existence. It’s like this, you don’t talk shit about what is irrelevant. It’s like me walking along and talking shit about the ants under my feet.

[@trinigooner8865]

Drown them out of existence?? Lmao serious copium there brother!...when last was a Xbox exclusive game nominated for GOTY? Lol...yeah...also... you're not paying attention?... they're alllll going multi plat my boi

[@CriticalSasquatch]

@@trinigooner8865 lol ok ..the most played and the most popular games on PS are all XBOX games ..keep the pony tears flowing.

[@CriticalSasquatch]

@@trinigooner8865 how is Xbox failing when last year alone, 5 Xbox games was in the top 20 most sold games of 2023… #2 mw3 #6 Diablo 4, #7 mw2, #11 starfield, #20 Minecraft. And this is without using the benefits of gamepass, dlc, and micro transactions. Sony last year only had 2 games. #4 Spider-Man 2, #16 mlb the show 23…. A single player game that has to pay Disney interactive for using marvel properties in the game, and pay mlb for the licensing. Xbox owned 25% of those games on that list 😂. While PlayStation only had 5% plus a hefty fee for those IP’s.🤷🏼‍♂🤦‍♂

[@HypeWrecks]

If a video game console is _this_ engrained into your personality that you get triggered about someone reporting news, you need to reevaluate your life. This comment is embarrassing.

[@kingscorpion26m]

@@CriticalSasquatchxbot fangirl is crying now 😂😂

[@collynsmith5432]

Xbox died when bungie stopped making halo tbh the final halo from bungie was the end and xbox never recovered

[@sarahbembry7512]

I just talked to a friend about this and he could not believe the route that Xbox has went. If I was a Xbox consumer I would feel betrayed.

[@Captain-America4992]

They will continue to HOLD THE LINE🫡🪖

[@ReforgeGaming]

lol

[@tr1bes]

The LINE are broken into many segments of playability.

[@8bitpro85]

I don't know how anyone can defend Xbox's decisions at this point. R.I.P.

[@jacooosthuizen3593]

VGflightschool does. xD

[@rjproduction486]

Hes the new crapgamer!

[@jacooosthuizen3593]

@@rjproduction486 HAHAHAHA Man he is stuck on that Insomniac document that he states is Sony's but bottom right corner you can see it is Insomniac's leaked document and the Sony pillars are weak xD

[@MohammedRyad-gs5rt]

It's philover

[@ReforgeGaming]

lol stop

[@MohammedRyad-gs5rt]

@@ReforgeGaming 😉

[@JonathanTacoman]

XBOX is always way ahead First it was offering proper online play with xbox Live and charging for the online service Also adding a HDD on a console to eliminate memory cards Then it was Party Chat and Achievements Then Cloud saves Then that always online requirement Then going on PC Then Smart Delivery so one purchase works on PC and xbox Then quick resume recently And obviously Gamepass which is now the money maker they see as the future that gives u access at any time on any device no downloads or system requirements needed

[@ReforgeGaming]

game pass is not the money maker, sub services are flat lining. super out of touch take tbh

[@SneakyWolfff]

It’s over!!!

[@ReforgeGaming]

it is

[@ehenningsen]

If your wish cones true, which it won't- ill be laughing at you for having to buy an overpriced, underpowered console due to no direct competition. The rest of XBOX will join us in the PC world

[@ehenningsen]

​@@ReforgeGamingperfect screenshot to prove you're a fanboy

[@cyphaborg6598]

What Phil is saying regarding " losing due to people building up their digital libraries " is a strange conclusion. They primarily lost due to a higher launch price, but also having this message of always being online and not being able to get used games. How did Sony win with digital libraries?, if anything they still encouraged physical media.he's not making much sense.

[@victory7763]

I knew Black Myth Wukong wouldnt be a thing on Xbox. This Series S reality is starting to be quietly ignored

[@TheIntentionalMillionairesshow]

The series S is probably why it didn’t come to Xbox.

[@KangKuupa]

Yup that's exactly what it is gta 6 on the series s is in trouble watch

[@Troop-]

@@KangKuupa it's possible, BG3 last year, Wukong this year, the biggest game of the year always skips xbox on launch

[@frankkent5567]

Phil Spencer always was and will be a clown in the Xbox circus of disaster, but Satya Nadella is its master of ceremonies.

[@cyberpunkdarren]

The leap from 30fps to 60fps is huge. Fast load times and ray tracing also big leaps. So yeah. Phil is wrong again.

[@DrownEyedAngel]

So unfortunate that it's come to this. I've been on Xbox since the 360 and have a huge library. Sadly that isn't keeping me on Xbox anymore. Here I come Sony 😢

[@ReforgeGaming]

a sad day tbh

[@cmclbloody]

Welcome to the playstation nation

[@tr1bes]

With today's age, it's multiplatform now. If it's before 2000 where kids could barely afford only 1 console. Today, those 90s kid can afford multiple consoles. The way xbox is going, it is heading the path of Sega after the Dreamcast.

[@AI-AITUM]

Come 🤗

[@janwatkins5523]

I agree this is not a good move for Xbox great video lono keep up the good work

[@ReginaldCarterII]

Im still buying XBOX. I have Ps5.

[@bretwilliams249]

My sweet sweet puppy is now an Xbox 😞 CURSE YOU PHIL!!! *shakes fist at the sky*

[@AlwayzFresh]

Personally I love the direction, I really like the idea of playing XBox games anywhere. Not sure why that is a bad thing. I'm not a fanboy so I dont attach myself to any company. I think those that have "attached themselves" are kinda weird and are getting butthurt, but other than that this is a great direction fort Microsoft. Rip the bandaid off fanboys, this is for the better.

[@davidforman6191]

Only reason ms have done this is the loss of console market share. Had they an install base like Sony or Nintendo they would remain exclusive. This is just the narrative to placate the xbox ownership who had crowed about all the exclusives they would get from Activision deal. No point having exclusive if comparatively no one to sell to. Check E3 2018 comments from Phil, still pushing the exclusives for xbox narrative even then.

[@rickeyhernandez2094]

​@davidforman6191 buying ABK was never about being exclusive. Sony customers are the bulk of their profits. Why would they cut off that money stream? The plan was always to make it available to everyone. Only fan boys care about exclusively. Even Sony is finally realizing that business model isn't sustainable. The best selling games on Playstation aren't the exclusives they are the 3rd party games.

[@davidforman6191]

@@rickeyhernandez2094 if you could read you would see .I mention E3 2018.

[@rickeyhernandez2094]

@davidforman6191 it's 2024 things have changed I don't care what Phil said 6 years ago.

[@davidforman6191]

@rickeyhernandez2094 yup, xbox market share plummeted. That's what changed. Like I said.

[@connermckellar9009]

lol every point you tried to make is incorrect who watches this channel

[@shecklesmack9563]

You: “lol ur a poopiehead” *runs away* Gotcha…

[@hvdiv17]

Xbox is the lowest selling console every generation since the 360 its not growing but game pass IS growing xbox is going after a new target audience the old loyalists my exclusives on my console need to move on. My pc IS my xbox.

[@hayabusa09]

When I play games with my dog…he too, is an XBox.

[@Tuce112th]

Xbox is no longer just a console. They changed the landscape. And now, they are more profitable than Sony. Sony and Xbox don't make money on consoles. Well, a little.. Sony will copy what Xbox is doing but super slow so their fans base don't cry. Since most of them are slow, they probably won't even know it happened when it does.

[@trinigooner8865]

The copium of the Xbox fan is something else boy😂💀

[@Tuce112th]

@trinigooner8865 yall delusional thinking Sony won't follow what Xbox is doing 😭🤣

[@1969Makaveli]

​@@Tuce112th I agree cause SONY has been copying Microsoft XBOX for years. Between SONY and Microsoft.... Microsoft XBOX had a hard drive in it. SONY did the same thing. Microsoft XBOX released XBOX LIVE and SONY fucked up by doing a broad band adapter, anybody remember that? Their online gaming was terrible compared to Microsoft XBOX. XBOX also has the headset chat voice over online. Then here comes SONY doing the same thing with the PlayStation. SONY has always followed what Microsoft is doing with the XBOX. SONY started to release games on PC and they realized hey that's potential money we can tab in. Microsoft is doing it and is successful with it. And Microsoft was the first to do day and date with the PC as well. Here comes SONY doing the same thing. It took awhile but yet here we are. So sooner or later SONY will release their games on XBOX to get that extra money. It's only a matter of time. Play on gamers 😂😬

[@AI-AITUM]

I likesss you. You think like an adult techy and articulate points using facts and not childish echoing hearsay bull👍 YOU THINK!

[@adamking2951]

Hopefully all this weird marketing in not disclosing exclusivity windows goes away too. That’s one of my biggest pet peeves with XBOX and their marketing. Stalker 2 is calling my name 😅

[@toastynotez]

Dont forget to smack that like button. On the way in

[@ReforgeGaming]

indeed

[@ROADKIL80]

They're are trying to change to quick we will see what happens 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@wariowahwah580]

I think these changes are why I literally can’t access my 7 yr old account on my xbox one anymore. It refuses to let me on that account, refuses to let me move any data from it to the one I use now, I have to start all over from scratch and every single one of their gamepass deals is now the same monthly charge. I don’t know what else to do.

[@bryanking1428]

Correct 😊

[@ReforgeGaming]

thanks!

[@Jamie-z3u]

To me I was all about consoles, xbox series x, then I tried GFN ultimate cloud gaming, with a stable Internet connection and 8ms server lag, plus Nvidia reflex, my GFN experience actually performs better (input lag, latency) than a native console, plus it is 5x more powerful gpu 4080/16c threadripper CPU... sold my xbox a month after trying this, all that being said I still Have my xbox/pc gamepass because it is incredible value for money, can play Xbox's CoD MW3/BO6 on extreme settings at 4K/120fps, can't wait to play gamepass versions of Stalker 2.... if I was gonna buy another console it would probably be PS6 because of games like GoT, GoW, Horizon ZD/FW, but for now I use boosteroid which supports all these games and they actuallyhave rockstar games (though they haven't updated Horizon ZD to the remastered yet) as you can probably tell, I am a cloudgaming fan boy, first time I tried xcloud, I was like this will never work, image quality was terrible, with GFN ultimate and boosteroid ultra, yes there are compression artifacts at times (volumetrics and very dark scenes) and for some reason although boosteroid says 4K120fps, I have to set my screen resolution to 83% of 4K to get a stable decode of 120fps, it has far more positives than negatives, people should find what works for them, just don't write off cloud gaming like I did based on xcloud or amazon Luna 😂👍

[@Stricken555]

I'm that! Non PS4 user, & bought a PS5 last week. Super happy with the product, even tho I normally game on PC

[@stereobasher2561]

He really philiptover the Xbox

[@Dominic-t3e]

I mean if that's how you feel. I'm perfectly content with my Series X and looking forward to playing Stalker 2 tomorrow, Indy in December, Obsidians next RPG Avowed in February and we know of Fable and Gears of War E day releasing in 2025. Among these are other titles like South of midnight, Clockwork Revolution and Doom the dark ages. All on gamepass no less. I've been getting my money's worth but to each their own of course. You do you.

[@willierhone6244]

Phil is a "LIAR" 75% of COD sell are on PS5. They need Sony to help pay the 100 billion dollars the spent in the last 4-years, business 101 people. Maybe if the "Fanboys spent money and cared like they claim to this wouldn't be happening. If every game sell better on PS, what the hell do you think they are going to do, you sure as hell are not helping them pay down their debt.

[@plummleys4514]

Man the delusion is STILL going around even when the record has been set time and time again. Xbox is still an Xbox.... Console are STILL being made as well as a handheld. FACT NUMBER 1 More ways to access your games giving the consumer choice FACT NUMBER 2 More studios than any competitor to give more games to Xbox users and that includes devices that can run Gamepass FACT NUMBER 3 GAMEPASS being the main eco system driver for growth FACT NUMBER 4 MORE Xbox console players than ever before in the history of the Xbox console.... that statement right there shows console growth FACT NUMBER 5 MORE game sales than ever before through the Xbox eco system which again shows growth FACT NUMBER 6 B06 has more Xbox console players than Playstation which again signals growth FACT NUMBER 7 i really don't understand this logic of its over for Xbox..... In fact they have really only just gotten started if you are paying attention... what should be concerning is STILL we see one company evolving gaming on how you gain access to gaming while the other is stagnant using old methods which WILL become outdated.

[@Calm_Chaos]

Reforge, this is not the 1990s anymore, the gaming market industry has changed, and Microsoft is adapting to follow the consumer's lifestyle. This "End of Xbox" nonsense should stop, as they created an ecosystem that can be used on any device that can support its service, which surprise, surprise, includes the Xbox consoles.

[@ReforgeGaming]

Adapting to what consumers life style? The 20 million who switch to PS5? The 150 million Nintendo switches sold? Non gamers won’t suddenly dive into elder scrolls 6 just because it’s on their tablet.

[@Calm_Chaos]

@ReforgeGaming So basically your saying that ONLY console players will be playing Elder Scrolls 6 then? The difference here is you have the choice to play your games wherever you want, PC all the way down to mobile phone. It's the portability of the game you have here. Xbox won't stop making consoles, as they get more revenue through consoles signed into Gamepass.

[@mjg258]

It's amazing how allegedly "Xbox is dead" since 2013 and 11 years later it's still alive and well. Please find some different content to make your hot takes on Xbox are not aging well.

[@ericderek1]

This is almost identical to the mindset Nintendo had when they stopped competing directly with the other two and made the Wii. It paid off massively for Nintendo, but we'll see how it goes for Microsoft.

[@chrischupp9760]

Games will just have to compete. Microsoft is a software company not surprised if Xbox will be gone.

[@majornomad5952]

If they never had a PS4 whst game sold them ? I'm not sure with entrance everything in video, but I definitely agree that phill

[@lars2703]

Really sad. I was on Xbox since the start although many of my friends had PlayStation’s (Germany always been Playstation land) Anyway, the signs became more obvious during the Xbox One era. That’s why I bought a PS5 instead of Series and I cant say I regret it.

[@Mikediszel]

I sold my series X in 2022. I built a pc in 2019 and after a few years all xbox games have been added to xbox on pc. So I had my XSX sitting there for months. I miss the quick resume on Xbox though, of everything that's the main thing I really miss. If I could get 1st party ps games I would sell that also.

[@MrGrim504]

I still see some people having a hard time with this..they need Phil to literally and explicitly say "YES WE'RE GOING 3RD PARTY" for them to finally accept the truth.

[@ReforgeGaming]

agreed

[@rickeyhernandez2094]

3rd party is great for consumers so I don't see that as a negative.

[@StateofMachines]

LOL this is exactly why you won't get my sub, you're scrubbing for subs at this point brother your content is out of touch and you're so off with your apocalyptic thumbnails. Don't you got anything else on the PlayStation side to talk about LOL oh I'm sorry you guys got no games! 😂😂😂

[@LurnWell]

They aren't going to stop making consoles. Lose the narrative, and consoles were designed to provide us with access to games we played in one space. Some of you have forgotten that in your exclusive addictions. That's what split us up, not what brought us together .

[@Garshfield]

I held out for the pro, and let me tell you, with a 4k oled monitor, it's a dream to play

[@DCTJC]

Xbox is the greatest thing to happen to 3rd world countries in terms of affordability. Xbox is not just USA. Xbox is far from over.

[@alexk9295]

I have to agree with everything you said here. It's so crazy that a CEO of a gaming company thinks that making awesome games won't sell systems. That statement alone should get him fired. Also, he apparanrly thinks there is this huge chunk of consumers out there that don't play games because it's.too expensive or not accessible or whatever. That maybe the case in third world countries, but defimitely not in western countries. Everybody who wants to play games can afford it. Everybody knows someone who plays games. People who are not gaming at this point just have no interest in it.

[@dailyhubranx]

I still cannot believe it. This marketing ad ....there are no words

[@J.a.v.i]

Corporate Microsoft treats Xbox and gaming like an embarrassing hobby. If Microsoft embraced gaming like Sony does Xbox would be 100s better than the PlayStation.

[@guysuave85]

They already lost the console war for over a decade,i am quite happy with this new strategy as an xbox user

[@chriszero5209]

Well way I see it going forward PlayStation are going to have to deal with Trump tariff tax when that comes in next year, where as Xbox being American won’t have that issue.

[@_sparrowhawk]

New devices aren't LEAPING because you guys aren't DOING ANYTHING NEW. The reason Nintendo gets attention for being innovative is because they actually come up with new form factors and controllers. Xbox has been a DVD-based console for 20 fucking years and haven't done a thing with the controller (other than Kinect, which copied the Wii, and their brilliant adaptive controller). Phil needs to sit down with his hardware team, and say "Good graphics don't really matter, do any of you have good hardware design ideas, and if you don't why the hell is MSFT paying you so much damn money?"

[@JaZter90]

Even if Xbox is now everywhere.... That doesn't change the fact I don't want to get into Xbox they just don't have games that make me go "hell yeah I NEED an Xbox ASAP!"

[@Ha1frican]

They had a chance to be competitive at the beginning of this gen but the lack of software killed them just like last gen. It took too long and too much money to spin up their studios/acquisitions. Now MS proper is demanding a return on investment and the quickest way to do that is going multi platform. What’s sad is that’s short sighted as they’d make a lot more money building out their hardware and locking people into their store but that’s not what Satya wants to do 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@WillisWheeler]

Two targets by me have pulled all the games for xbox only have the pre paid cards and the controllers

[@adrianojv409]

Great analysis of what customers perspectives could be: questions...

[@nitefyre2032]

I said this when Xbox One was announced. Its about games, games, games and not services. Xbox keeps trying to sell services and not games. As long as they keep doing this they will stay in the place they are. Also the new marketing is ironic because if everything is an Xbox nothing is an Xbox. So in very real way the new marketing says that Xbox is nothing and has no identity. This a fantastic way the sell your brand. Look at Playstations marketing slogans like "Be Greater," "Play has no limits" the difference is night and day.

[@ReforgeGaming]

yup so out of touch

[@ac1dfoxdie716]

What is Sony doing?

[@AI-AITUM]

A lot more than Xbox, that's for sure.

[@ac1dfoxdie716]

Are they ? I'll do some research

[@AI-AITUM]

​@@ac1dfoxdie716I think you should. They've done things and are doing things that I'm sure you're already aware of 😐

[@ac1dfoxdie716]

@@AI-AITUM yea maybe . I just care about the games . Concord is.... Wasn't a good look in recent times . I love the system tho

[@rikardoastaroth]

why this guy just keep crying and crying? this guy touched a lot of girls and now is trying to pass as a gamer lmao.

[@MrOrlando211]

This is a smart move from Xbox. You guys don’t see it.

[@mrmack3176]

Its sad xbox is so consumer friendly like xbox game pass ect and yet people like you and many others would love to see xbox fall as a company instead of supporting them

[@ReforgeGaming]

lol i dont support bad ideas or things i dont care about, the victim mentality is strong. good games sell systems. period

[@mrmack3176]

​​@@ReforgeGaming game pass is a bad idea? Console exclusively is a good idea ? You don't want value for money for gamers you want exclusively and non value for consumers is why when PlayStation sells 1000$ console you'll be the first to buy it

[@davidforman6191]

​@@mrmack3176yet in 2018 Phil Spencer was droning on about new exclusives for xbox at E3. So what happened between then and now? That's right, xbox didn't sell consoles in comparable numbers to Sony and Nintendo. So without the install base to generate significant profit they had to go multi platform. They then spin it to say play on any platform and their followers lap it up and regurgitate.

[@Doucheydouche]

@@mrmack3176XBox just put out a $600 version of the Series X and the only upgrade it has is extra storage. Any new consoles going forward, including ones put out by Microsoft, will be expensive. Gamepass is a fine idea, but it’s not why people stick with a brand. It’s ultimately just a rental service with games that eventually leave the service. Playstation has their own version of it, but it’s not quite as good. Yes, exclusives are good. They’re the reason people buy one console over another. They built their brand with exclusives like Halo and Gears, etc. that’s why people bought XBoxes back in the day. They had those games. If MS puts their games on a rival platform like Playstation, then there’s less reason or no reason to get another XBox. I’m saying this as someone who has purchased some type of XBox in every generation along with consoles from other brands.

[@DevinPosey20]

Hi Xbox

[@ac1dfoxdie716]

I understand , all reasons why I still love Nintendo and still play my PS4 . I like the company being focused on the system and exclusive games. I won't game on anything other than a PC or console so I see why the everything Xbox thing to be bad

[@dbzhung]

This approach that Xbox is taking is what's driving me away from Xbox. It looks like they are forcing the decision of out of touch executives on their customers. Also, their current strategy, which started with the game pass and the moving away from console exclusives, is the reason for the Series X losing in sales, and it seems like it's on purpose.

[@osskeet]

If anything xbox is going to get bigger. Xbox is going to be everywhere. Soon more gamers are going to be playing a xbox game and/or on gamepass.

[@josiahsuarez]

But what about Master chief he's such a dignified gentlemen 😢

[@simonharrison1874]

They had a good run but were destined to **** it up in the end. Good riddance to them.

[@zerosam5541]

Reforge sony console all ways outsell Xbox and not making thier games exculsive allow them to get money from people like you who are loayl to sony but want xbox games

[@TheIntentionalMillionairesshow]

How can Phil Spencer act Ike a mid generation upgrade is not important, but release an upgraded series X. What?

[@Justmeandmy20cents]

Wrong, the Xbox new "Everything is an Xbox" is perfect in line with new, renting gamers. Unfortunately it's backwards when it comes to paying customers.

[@brandonjohnson7534]

I think they're actually about to make up the ground by adding PS players and casuals to their player base without having to sell them Hardware

[@cyberpunkdarren]

Microsoft isnt becoming a publisher. They want to become a storefront like steam.

[@haylonix]

Been my thought as well. I would argue that Steam is tougher competition than Sony ever was.

[@bellissimo4520]

Who would want to play their console games on their mobile phone or tablet touch screen, and without a proper controller? I certainly don't. What do I have a frikkin 4k beamer and a surround sound system in my living room for? If they expect Gamepass to explode thanks to mobile users, I think they're gonna be disappointed.

[@nelieltu9730]

This kinda sucks because this will make sony even more predatory. I purchased a pro by trading in my base ps5 got basically half off. Now my next goal will be to build a pc because I'm betting PS6 will be costly and less rewarded im hoping not but just in case I need a back up if console gaming goes down even further.

[@willierhone6244]

The handheld will be in competition with the "Steam deck 2, you think that all these other companies are going to lay down and let MS lead the Handheld business? and they still will have their games on steam and all other systems, so why make a handheld knowing you're never going to be #1. Phil will come out in a year or two from now and say they are no longer making it, and Xbox "Fanboys" will go and blame Sony like always. Where is your VR? They will never hold Phil accountable" EVER.

[@विचित्रलड़का]

If it was truly over , what would you ponies talk about? No games , no controversy, nothing. Remember to buy the stand(sold separately)

[@brettwalsh2847]

You nailed it. Turning everything into an Xbox also makes the Xbox disappear entirely.

[@rikardoastaroth]

yeah thats why they are making more games and 2 new consoles lmao ur a genius.

[@kickingitwithtimmyb]

I said in one of morning coffees that phil has been talking about putting alot xbox games on multiplat! At that point I knew it was over. :/

[@ReforgeGaming]

yup