Xeno Reacts to Dumb Comments After Rich Cleared TEA

[@epicadventureturtle1363]

Hey guys I have social anxiety and never talk to anyone. How come this streamer who spent a lot of time to create a large network of fans and acquaintances has an easier time finding a group? I dont get it. Why won't sfia randomly invite me to a party while I do solo beast tribes? I hate this Rich guy reeeeeeeeeee.

[@akiraash01]

This is the top comment here

[@MiorAkif]

People who claim "streamer privilege" often forget that the streamer would have had to build up their reputation. Rich wasn't fucking born with his popularity, he built it up by making content a sum of people enjoy watching.

[@Asako_Gaming]

Everyone has some form of anxiety but unfortunately some things in life can't be done by yourself. If they want to do the harder content in an MMO, a game filled to the brim with many different kinds of personalities then they are going to have to come out of their shell.

[@dolphinboi-playmonsterranc9668]

@sudogai Less than half of the players even KNOW about PF I bet. Not including free trial players.

[@KC_604]

Lol man said while I solo beast tribes Lolol omg you have literally singled out 61% of the community lol

[@anniel9416]

All these people going "I'm not jealous" are in denial. Who wouldn't be jealous of raiding with a really experienced, well-performing group and learning a fight like that? That's the dream scenario.

[@Shaltinanwenor]

Yes and no, I guess. Depends what makes you tick I did TEA with a pretty hardcore group (2 weeks of 5-6 hours a day of prog) and the feeling of progging as a group is something I enjoy immensely That said, it'd also be pretty nice to be able to relax and let rin's voice soothingly guide you for sure :p

[@watchdoge6464]

Congratulations to Rich for his clear, I watch his content and i am really happy for him. Does that mean he's good enough in the game to clear TEA in a regular static? NO

[@Shaltinanwenor]

@@watchdoge6464 Yes he is Except it'd take 1k more pulls because he'd need to learn to dps while doing the mechanics instead of just learning to do the mechanics (which is substantially harder) Also, i475 shadowless gear, i510 pots & food make the dps check much, much more lenient than it was (I did it with said i475/i510 stuff, and the dps check was nonexistent for the most part). Could he have been carried that way when tea was current content? Doubtful. Could he learn how to do the fight properly? Well duh, it's not that hard, repeat the same fight hundreds and hundreds of time and eventually even your rotation relative to the fight becomes muscle memory

[@theburgundynetwork3432]

@@watchdoge6464 That's a dumb statement. Like the guy above me said, it would only have taken him more time. Probably significantly more time, but he would've managed, like pretty much anybody who attempts this kind of content and got the time to put in. Only difference is that it would've been a lot less entertaining to watch, and he's paid to be entertaining.

[@Asako_Gaming]

I'd hate it personally, learning fights blind is the best part of the game for me. Sure the craic would be great but if you aren't getting destroyed by every new thing that comes up where's the fun. Our group has always done fights blind and always will do them blind. Takes longer than other groups but we get the job done.

[@Carsu12]

If we rack our brains a bit, we can state that Rich carried his group. They were hard stuck until he learned the fight

[@zephyros256]

This is some big brain epiphany, it opened my eyes and solved my hair loss

[@Carsu12]

@@mechahalcon You are quite right sir, however if we look at it from perspective of this 8 man group clearing TEA without possibility of switching out weak links, it is clear that if Rich didn't do well enough, they wouldn't ever clear. Ergo, Rich carried them. And yes, this logic might be flawed, but with enough mind bending and copium anything can be turned into a factual fact.

[@drunk3n_m0nk12]

@@mechahalcon Concern

[@jaredfource]

@@mechahalcon Did you really take the initial comment seriously? Jesus Christ. Concern

[@Persona6Blue]

This comment section is big brain *adjust monocle and drinks teak*

[@DarkwingD]

"There are so many [Skydivers] who want to do [skydiving] but can’t because of anxiety or lack of social networking. They see [Jumping out a plane] as something greater. You all spit on those people’s plight. [...] This hurts and doesn’t help. But congrats" Written by the 'I suffer so you should, too' gang.

[@zenspeed404]

Crabs in a bucket.

[@DarkwingD]

@@Mr.Pasghetti Nah, different forms but still gate keeping. The person that said “some people have anxiety so you should feel bad about being able get a group together” is some zoomer shit. But the “it was harder in the last patch” is some boomer shit.

[@thunderborn3231]

@@Mr.Pasghetti my FAVORITE one is when i hear 'back in my day we had to WORK for rewards' and im fucking older than them; people who piss moan whine and complain will do it till the day they die, and its kinda fucked up to see yourself older than people who argue that but you finally get to realize what fucking losers they are.

[@nocturne2029]

@@Mr.Pasghetti nah you are way more likely to find that shit coming from a "some people have [whatever problem] so [they should be accommodated in every way and if they aren't then everything is impossible for them] millennial

[@JacienV]

13:37 - Really huge. The same thing happened with Palace of the Dead when Asmongold first went into it for Necromancer. The amount of people interested in going for Necromancer blew up and what was a smaller sub-community grew dramatically. It went from maybe a new Necromancer every week or so, to suddenly multiple new Necromancers each DAY. Personally for me, seeing Rich's clear made me even more motivated for our group in TEA now, we've had a second clean wormhole (thank you Korean sim), went through a scuffed Enumerations, but saw J-waves for first time last night. It's made me do research and memorization exercises of Phase 4 every day. I'm ready for callouts for movements for Almighty Judgements too. Little update: Cleared on 11/27/2021. PeepoClap

[@zxcvbnmasdfghjkl3377]

Chocobo racing was an interesting one too

[@ChaldeaWarmaster]

Envy and Jealousy are great motivators sometimes.

[@rRekko]

As a necromancer myself i feel the need to necro this thread just to agree with the fact that famous streamers doing this type of content brings in new waves of people. I was starting to do ultimates and was struggling to get a fresh group, as i wanted that experience of getting to learn the fights with the static. Thanks to whatever the streamers did like Rich, and me being in Cactuar (about 4 months before Asmon mentioned he'd be playing ffxiv) there was a huge influx into our FC and i was able to find people who were really interested in doing the hard content (wouldn't call them wow refugees as the 3 we needed and joined hadn't played since MoP and Legion). Now, i can see the people disliking it, such as myself from my own pov and morality, as i'd hate it to be carried as rich did, but i don't even care. I hate it how people voice their opinions so strongly about whatever a famous streamer did, which in reality it positively affects you since they bring in more people to your game (yes, lots of idiots who you can easily avoid and pick up the ones you can play with). So to summarize, i dislike the fact he cleared it being carried like that, but i don't care, he can do whatever he wants as long as it doesn't affect me, i thank rich and popular streamers for the influx of people, but i personally found them very boring to watch, like asmon's alexander savage where he was 100% carried lol.

[@neko9042]

I've noticed that people gauge their personal accomplishments based on how many other people have or have not done it, in a video game of all things. I talked to wow people about Challenge modes and old mage tower rewards and they were unanimous about not having old rewards come back or let people get them because they are 'special'.

[@TheSalattar]

I was torn about the mage tower coming back tbh. Mostly because it felt like Blizz was spitting on my face after banking on FOMO on Legion, telling me "Get this now or it'll be gone forever!". I did it, got the thing, it was gone. Now I feel stupid for thinking that company can hold their word and that I rushed so many classes thru the thing for nothing. Happy for the people who missed out and now are able to get it, mad that I had a bad time getting it while thinking I had a limited time.

[@k9tirion927]

@@TheSalattar I got half of the mop cm sets, wod cm gold weapons, all magetower skins. If tomorrow, all of that content would come back and be pretty easy, I'd be happy for everyone who wanted and got it. And you know why? Because I'm not a petty small man.

[@andrewtimothy9792]

Cause its easier to complain and blame your situation rather than using that time to socialize and get some work (clear) done

[@zenspeed404]

@@TheSalattar Well, one of the problems is you banked on the FOMO. Hell, I got caught up in the FOMO with MOP CMs and the mage tower, but once I took a step back, I was more pissed at Blizzard for making it FOMO and being incapable of maintaining any sort of evergreen content. Seriously, what kind of idiot makes something so universally liked with the intent of throwing it out after two years with nothing to replace it?

[@8bitchiptune420]

@@TheSalattar You still don't know Blizzard? They are MAKING money. Do you think they care about how you feel? OMEGALUL

[@thaldros8643]

So true on the getting the shakies during stressful fights. Big factors in me failing my first 2 attempts at the 180 potd boss solo. The fear of losing all that time makes you lose even more time by failing. Had to force myself to control my breathing for several attempts after.

[@keenho]

Ppl don't know. Rich is actually more hardcore cause he progged through twitch streaming for years to get to his position. Dude even hosted ti. Random mad redditors can prog through twitch streamer hell from 0 viewers to the top and get the clear if they want the same.

[@ratoh1710]

Yeah he's earned everything he has

[@TeemoTemosson]

@@ratoh1710 If it weren't for Asmon, Rich wouldn't have a streaming career.

[@cyryl3827]

​@@TeemoTemosson He would have 4-6k viewers without Asmon... the fuck are you on about.

[@RotNovelite]

He also did himself a career as commentator for WoW E-sports and CoD E-sports (don't remember if it was CoD, but it was a shooter game), so he was already a big thing before he even started streaming.

[@Vampireinarm1]

hes been riding off asmon for years lol

[@BryoLawrence]

These people also fascinate me because I don’t get the feeling that Rich thinks he’s some hot shit for doing it any which way. He doesn’t act like he’s a top tier player. They’re just so damned salty because he gets “help”(however you define it) that they won’t.

[@4922jack]

He's playing it for the fun of it, for content .. He doesn't think he's some bigshot for clearing ultimates .. he just jokes around and people on the internet don't understand that.

[@BryoLawrence]

@@4922jack yeah exactly, it’s not like he’s some fraud being revealed.

[@19jsparker19]

There's just a lot of salty people who haven't even done the fights themselves in the community that feel they need to gatekeep it for whatever reason. My friends and I have all had people try and gatekeep our clears, asking us things like "how much did it cost you for those titles" and other dumb stuff like that, when there's more than enough evidence if you just *look* that we're capable of pressing our buttons and doing mechanics.

[@Kairamek]

What fascinates me is that people care this much. Why? It doesn't hurt them. It might help because people are interested and that drives participation. So what is people's problem?

[@vielara]

Just wait until Asmongold gets around to clearing an Ultimate. Salt levels will be even higher than they are about Rich being a Triple Legend.

[@DonPetexX]

Asmon has the power of family not sure if they can bitch about it too much. I can imagine 1 ultimate clear having Dominic or sea lion coming in clutch

[@fionamb83]

It's so stupid. Like óg course it's going to be quicker and easier with experienced players. Most of us find a group or do it with friends and prog from the beginning. Or indeed never touch the content

[@thunderborn3231]

@@fionamb83 theyll still mald and call the characters elitist alts if they made a party finder and required no clear done before entering

[@vielara]

@Silver Ronin you'd think so, but I've had people say he's getting carried hard by Dom and the rest of the Family.

[@KresusFIN]

Why would they? Presumably, Asmon isn't going to do it with 7 World First tier players, but the close knit group he's been with since? Now granted, some of those players are Legends, so it's not quite a "progging from scratch together" kind of deal, but it's far from getting Rich Campelled through it.

[@stealthmaster96]

I have no doubt in my mind the same people who are saying Rich got carried because of his parse are the same people that wonder why Yoshi P will never add ACT to the game

[@Asako_Gaming]

They are the reason we can't have nice things. I use a parser all the time for even the shittiest content because I want to know how I stack up against others. In my savage clears my parses are all shit but I don't care because I did them all blind with my mates having a laugh. However because some nipple twisters out there would use it to harrass players we can't have it. A shame too because it's a really useful tool, not just for damage, but for looking at cooldown uses throughout fights and checking damage types of busters and other attacks.

[@mugen3603]

Was his parse really shitty or something?

[@Asako_Gaming]

@@mugen3603 It doesn't matter what the parse was. He cleared and that's all that matters

[@thunderborn3231]

@@Asako_Gaming i used to be the same way in wow with parser usage, but i've played games long enough that i dont bother with ability guides rotation suggestions or parses; because i can outplay 80% of people who worship those things like a religion. weather you do everything to perfection or not only matters to the 1% rushing for world first. If you stop using that crap, give yourself some breathing room, and see what you can do based on intuition you relieve so much performance anxiety on yourself. The numbers are literally far less demanding than the sweaty players would lead you to believe perfect and good enough only have a 7% difference.

[@mugen3603]

@@Asako_Gaming I was just curious since the topic wasn't whether or not he cleared, but whether he was carried. His parses are a good indicator. If he at least played his class well and parsed on equal terms with his peers, then ppl can't really say he was carried. If his parses were shit, then yeah, he was carried, and so be it. It is what it is. Just admit it if that's the case instead of pretending it wasn't what happened.

[@katnerd-Glen]

Rich is a social animal who makes friends easily. He succeeded in this because he met a bunch of other popular streamers, made friends with them, and proposed an event that would benefit them all. He finished TEA because he made friends and played the game with them. That, if I recall, is the point of an MMO.

[@methalor8915]

The guy who said rich wiped the group 404 times never watched the stream for more than 20 minutes. So many times the 7 other people would fuck up a mechanic and rich would think that it was his fault. I think people are just mad a WoW player is getting clears before them.

[@TheBongReyes]

Exactly.

[@bigboi5507]

I’m glad he cleared the only reason for me not clearing a ultimate fight is due to the fact I become a nervous wreck when I think of joining a group.

[@Inhaledcorn]

@@bigboi5507 I'm in this statement, and I don't like it.

[@theelite8196]

@@bigboi5507 I would start off at Extreme and Savage content, and join a casual/beginner static since that's where most start.

[@MrMiQT]

TEA demands so much concentration on mechanics execution, it’s literally impossible to be super carried outside of a pilot. Rich is privileged duh but he absolutely worked for this one. His nerdscream on clear was evidence enough on that

[@RyLo18D]

People want to invalidate him for getting carried, he gets treated as well as a trap echo player on E12S loot parties. On one hand that’s fair, as a player his parses suck and he doesn’t optimise his rotation for ultimate fights. Realistically he wouldn’t be clearing the fights without having hardcore raiders parsing like gods to makeup for lost dps and everybody knows it. On another level, not that many people really care and he doesn’t brag he’s good either. I guess the real difference is, the perfect legends who’ve spent 50+ lockouts clearing TEA feel as if their efforts are invalidated by Rich getting carried. It doesn’t matter to them how much Rich ‘works’ for it.

[@FranklinW]

@@RyLo18D I find very few Perfect Legends actually care about Rich being "carried" or not. I think it's mostly people currently progging, who haven't done it, or who bought their clear that care.

[@kirashyper1682]

@@RyLo18D dude you're not gonna be able to optimize your rotation on your first time lmao, you do that after you clear and learn the fight 🤣

[@3ld00N]

@@RyLo18D You only optimize your rotation on Ultimates when you're stuck on a mechanic for several days, which obviously Rich's group would never have happen to them lol.

[@toffeelatte6042]

@@FranklinW Pretty much.

[@aaronstewart3352]

Personally, I find the outrage hilarious. I’m a midcore console player-if I want to do a random extreme/savage fight, I can usually hop on to PF, learn it fairly quickly, and get a few clears. Do I have any interest really in doing Ultimate fights? Not really-that’s not my play level nor my time dedication. Do I love watching recaps of clears? Absolutely. So when a streamer like Rich goes through the fights in a marathon session with other streamers I’ve enjoyed over my 8 years on this game, I *love* the content. Rin is hilarious, and their overall vibe as a group is perfect. So when I see all these jealous Andys and parse Andys come out of the woodwork, I grab the popcorn. Dude, y’all need to take a step back from the game. It’s not that serious. I’ve never looked at a parse meter in my life, and I routinely get commendations as a dps-you might find the game more enjoyable if you don’t obsess so much over numbers and just focus on the game for once lol. Also, everyone comes back to this, but it’s important: no one would watch the stream if it were 8 noobs, unless they were *wildly* entertaining. I mean like roflmao level at all times, bc let’s face it, that would be weeks of constant wiping. Ya, there’s privilege involved. Do I give af? No. Should you? Probably not. PS. If you hop into a comment talking about how much you don’t care… You care. And everyone knows it. (You’re not fooling anybody, you salty little rascal)

[@Spectacular_Insanity]

I'm the same kind of player as you, dude. I actually would like to try Ultimates, but finding a static is hard enough, and my work schedule makes it impossible to play as consistently as an Ultimate clear would require.

[@Inhaledcorn]

I'm in a similar boat, but I do care about my numbers. I wanna see how big I can make them. I like pushing myself. I find optimization fun. I don't care about other people's numbers unless there's something *really* wrong with them (like why is a tank doing StB damage in Amaruot?)

[@morsecodex]

A "carry" is simply when someone you don't like clears content you haven't managed to clear yet or are too scared to try.

[@betlog1etirts27]

Im a new player like rich. Cant enter an ultimate without doing all of edens promise and farming it 20 times each just to get BiS. Then optimizing it for parse just so a static can accept a sprout. Rich triple legend on i510 gear. Dont @ me -saltlord2021

[@bigbay1159]

@@betlog1etirts27 The fact that it's synced content makes that argument moot

[@betlog1etirts27]

@@bigbay1159 you right. You can just drop everything at lvl 70 and enter ultimates then. Will anyone play with you tho.

[@bigbay1159]

@@betlog1etirts27 Absolutely, but it does take effort to find a group. Luckily with all the hype it's easier than ever. Xeno's said it himself that now's a good a time as any to try and start getting into ultimates. It's not your gear that is going to stop you, it's how comfortable you are in hard content and your ability to network and put yourself out there to get into the content. Once you've beaten the Savage fight to unlock the ultimates, at that point the only thing stopping you from going is you really.

[@Knives7777]

or too bad to clear....

[@Thorkou]

That voice Xeno did at the end, made me do a double take too if I was still watching a Xeno video... lmao Dude Xeno ur uwu voice is terifying bro!

[@Kelenae]

He's had too much practice watching Gura videos

[@zavvie7749]

Yoshi-P: Congratulations Rich. Redditors: REEEEEEEEEEEE

[@mikekel8036]

Carried or not carried, he put in a lot of time and a lot of wipes into it. Even if he was carried, just the fact that he spent so much time and didnt go mental like most ppl would wiping so many times is already commendable. Also, why do ppl care so much about this? it's a glamour and you can always do it later if you have the time... Grats to Rich and everyone else participating

[@bigbay1159]

Elitism, some people have such fragile egos. That if they can't have something to Lord over others, it somehow ruins their experience

[@thunderborn3231]

EXACTLY; most of the idiots shouting carry; if they had a wipe board visible for that fight, they'de be sitting at 0 because they haven't even tried

[@MissSmoozie]

Having seen both his clear, and clearing it in ~42h with multiple new people (including myself) never having seen an ultimate before, they clearly adapted strategies around him being new, but he still fucking did the actually hard mechanics, and any good static will adapt if stuff doesn't work out. Me and the other tank swapped around who did what a lot to make things smoother and more reliable, just like they did with Rich, if this means the better player does harder mechanics, good, means it'll be more reliable and you get more pulls go far so you learn later mechanics faster. What people also seem to miss is that, in the words of my static leader, all you need is 2 braincells, a single functional ear and a lot of determination to clear ultimates. If you're ready to wipe 500 times in a row, seeing minimal improvement between each pull, congratulations, you're ready for ultimates. It's a marathon, not a sprint.

[@1wayroad935]

People are just jealous that Rich is better than them in areas not related to FFXIV. I've watched Rich since his casting days and the man works hard and loves what he does. He absolutely deserves the clear.

[@ChaldeaWarmaster]

If it makes people feel any better, Legend players do not necessarily equal better players. They are the kind who wanted to try something new.

[@Aquilenne]

You see the same attitude with RMT. Even way before this, you saw a lot of toxicity just because they're more successful outside the game and are able to afford to buy clears/boosts/gold and they couldn't.

[@_samst_]

Being good at X doesnt make you deserving of Y, lol. As Xeno said, he would never clear this with equally skilled people, or even slightly above him in skill. Literally anyone can clear this content if you have 7 good people to make up for your dps. (yes, the last phase normally has a decent enrage timer). Gz rich, you technically have the clear. But just spending time doesnt make you 'deserving'

[@1wayroad935]

@@_samst_ Point at this loser! Point at him and laugh!

[@ChaldeaWarmaster]

@@_samst_ And what makes you think someone is deserving of a clear or not? The point of an Ultimate is for everyone to do their part to ensure a victory beyond just beating the big boss so many times. Rich may not have done big dick damage worth of good parsing, but he at least learned how the raid has transpired so he knows how to resolve the mechanics so that he does not die (or worse, lead to a party wipe). As far as I am concerned, he deserves that clear just because he persisted in learning to do his part.

[@xSoySaucex]

What would be of my day at work without a video of Xeno to kill time. Never stop entertaining Xeno

[@HatsukaRaigeki]

Man this is why i love Xenos vods. Man speaks facts, Compared to the ffxiv community that are oversensitive and live in denial. That ending is GOLD btw LOL.

[@ZoomR21]

Bruhhhhh, I was in tears lol.

[@Zephhi]

Fucking facts. So much of the community is oversensitive and pretentious. Very annoying too

[@ruily276]

10:36 first time that happened to me was when I did coils turn 9 for the first time with my static and we finally managed to get through the dive mechanic. I know it was harder when the raid first came out but it still felt incredible to clear regardless. I don't even want to know how it feels to get into an Ultimate but I'm hyped to try the new one when it comes out. I'm sure people will say the same about Rich whenever he'll clear that one as well.

[@michaelmartin5417]

Dude I got a random question can you set a party up and have the 8th guy just walk off edge and beat whatever content you can to show people what a carry really is cause I don't think people really get what a carry is....

[@pointdowguy9359]

Inb4 people say rich was carried when he gets his on-patch clear of dragonsong war ultimate.

[@ExHero627]

Thordon Ultimate seems more likely.

[@pointdowguy9359]

@@ExHero627 its been confirmed to be dragonsong war ultimate for a long time now, but thordan's still gunna be in it

[@ExHero627]

@@pointdowguy9359 I don’t get how they’re gonna pull that off but I guess Time will tell

[@JJBCrimsonKnight]

Someone really thinks every wipe was Rich's fault? That guy clearly didn't watch the prog. I would say maybe half?

[@JJBCrimsonKnight]

@@4NT1N008 Never used the word only?

[@Piscosour95]

I watched a lot of his prog, and while it's true a lot of wipes were Rich's fault (which btw there's nothing wrong with that considering it was his first time), a lot of them were also everyone else's fault. I remember a specific one were Woops backflipped at the wrong time and caused everyone to wipe. There were times were even Sfia messed up and wiped the entire group. TEA is a punishing and demanding fight, even the best players make mistakes and wipe the entire party. Anyone who claims Rich caused all the wipes didn't watch his prog, clearly.

[@technole]

TEA is full of gotchas that it doesn't take much for any player to cause a wipe. Rin, Sfia, and woops had their fair share of causing wipes.

[@zenith3803]

The fine lads getting banned for having “stupid brains” gave me such a good laugh lol. The content has been great lately, props to Leo.

[@KyvannShrike]

I remember my shakies for the ult clears. All three fights. I remembered missing tank lb in UWU and wiping the raid. Feels sad. Seeing new shit 15 minutes into a fight does shit to you. Hell, I remembered standing in front of Bahamut as ninja for the akh morne. Embarassing shit.

[@kuronaialtani]

Good to know I’m not the only one with the “shakies” I’m naturally twitchy as is, so my mouse DPI has to be bottom of the bottom low for me to not spaz my camera out when I move around in some games Some savage fights only make it worse to the point I end up focusing more on trying to stop myself from shaking than doing the fight I can’t imagine doing an ultimate under the stress of streaming as well

[@henri2140]

that is a good point that I never thought about, not only dealing with the stress and excitement while progging but also keeping a stream entertained must be draining as hell to keep up. just doing ultimate on its own was exhausting during 3-4h raid nights back when I did them in 4.X.

[@malcovich_games]

Shakies never really goes away, it's always gonna be there when you need to perform under pressure. But the more you do it, the more you get used to it and manage it. You could try using the raid simulator. Getting familiar in a safe environment may help mitigate it.

[@NeFlorence]

Oh god I remember getting shakeys during Almighty Judgement in TEA. It’s a really easy mechanic but with the fanfare of the music, the hype, the intensity of “this could be it!” will just get to you

[@Windikite]

Bit late, but I think people have such warped ways of thinking about the ultimates and challenge in general. In my opinion, the best aspect of ultimate raiding has always been coming together and helping others get those kills. Demonizing that and lifting up the pure garbage you sometimes have to go through to find a group as the true experience is just wanting others to have it as bad as you did.

[@GrandMasterGalvatron]

People seem to forget that networking is an extremely valuable skill in itself. In fact, I'll say networking is the most valuable skill in the real world. It's always been about who you know more than what you can do. Anyone who can successfully utilize that deserves all the glory that they can get.

[@ChaldeaWarmaster]

Yes, networking, delegation and coordination are excellent skills to have. Most gamers these days are focused on who shall be the "carry" of the team that people forget about teamwork.

[@RackSimons]

6:30 imma disagree there. no im not entitled to a discount, but neither is the next person. just because you are famous doesn't mean you can just bypass paying for things. just a bad analogy imo.

[@MiorAkif]

Fine, here's a better analogy: The same scenario, but the celeb instead gets a handshake and is asked for an autograph, while you are treated as an average joe

[@Paulmacellaro]

The graphics thing is a weird topic. Because WoW has a timeless art style that hides the low poly count of a lot of old models. It’s like comparing a recent stylized indie game to a recent realistic game. Not saying FF is realistic with its art style it’s just a very difficult and subjective comparison.

[@Carsu12]

Artstyle being timeless doesn't make the graphics any better though

[@veiregor]

Art style being timeless lmao. Just one look and you can see that its made before 2k10

[@Paulmacellaro]

I think WoWs expansions especially Mists of Pandaria going forward has amazing beautiful vistas. So does FF though, Il Meg being one of my favorites. My point was they’re so different graphically it’s a weird comparison. Not saying one is better damn dudes calm yourself

[@pajen37]

100% agree

[@veiregor]

@@Paulmacellaro i never compared and im chill af. played WoW back in the day, still have the bnet logo for some reason. Anyway, the only people in the world that are like " yeah wow has good graphics, its stylized, its timeless" are those that are too stuck up in the head and never played something that is actually that. How many of these refugees said that no mmo is looking as good as wow but the moment they switch they admit that they were wrong. Yes it has beautiful vistas in 2k20, the engine got upgraded, shocking i know, but the game, objectively, looks like shit mixed with colours rubbed on screen.

[@justinerickson282]

A clear is a Clear. I don't care what his group was made up of. it was 400+ wipes. Most groups (now a days) disband by the 10th or kick someone that they think is the problem. Congrats to him

[@Hooga89]

The raiding crowd in FFXIV really is full of sour grapes. When I came from WoW to FFXIV I really thought the community would be better because that's what I heard from everyone, but in reality it's just as toxic as WoW, it's just *extremely* passive aggressive instead of being all out douche and the reaction to Rich clearing all the Ultimates is a good example of it.

[@andrewtimothy9792]

@@Hooga89 exactly this. as a longtime ff14 player since 2.0, i never understand where the phrase "14 community is less toxic than wow" No, they are the same. they are just passive aggressive because in 14, squenix will actually ban you if you are being toxic to other players. So what these dumbfucks do is cry on twitter and reddit and other social media. "BUT HEY, AT LEAST THE GAME'S COMMUNITY IS MORE FRIENDLY RIGHT?!"

[@StayNightGaming]

I've actually really enjoyed his progress. I only ever cleared UCOB, and my personal experience with it and my static made me stop raiding all together, but man seeing someone come up through the game as quick as he has, clear all the ultimates, I feel nothing but happiness for him. Seeing some of those clears really made me grip the edge of my seat, and almost inspired me to try raiding again. I wonder what's next? Maybe Lone Hero or Necromancer perhaps?

[@Paschendale2]

This was a mutually beneficial twitch/FFXIV event for literally everyone. The only people in his party that I knew of before he started playing were Mr Happy and woops. Now I'm subbed to Rin, Todd, and Sfia and watch more FFXIV on twitch than I ever have before.

[@chinsehatori5815]

I don't mind him clearing like congratzt to him for doing it. The only I don't like was his attitude during Prog the one time where he overslept like 2h straight whiel 7 other people where waiting for him. I don't like it when people do something like this.

[@XenosysVex]

That would piss me off well. I fucking hate when people are late

[@UmbreonMessiah]

Seeing Xenos stand up for Rich is pure bliss.

[@ShitOwl]

this aged poorly

[@MrCharly780]

​@@ShitOwlnope, the fact that rich is a creep doesnt change the fact that salty people who cant clear were jelly at him. Replace rich with someone like Zepla amd everything still holds

[@ShitOwl]

@@MrCharly780 wtf are u on about

[@ShitOwl]

@@MrCharly780 calling someone who committed SA just a creep is fucking wild if anything is cancelable its cold hard proof of shit like that and here u are taking a stand for him too

[@IGotTheJazz]

I love everything about this vid lol… and the 3+ bans that went out were priceless! I’m a casual gamer and as much as I wish I could do hardcore content a little more consistently, I have a wife and a full time job and many many bills and a very demanding little shit monster aka adorable puppy named Mando. Ultimates are just not happening anytime soon. Congrats to Rich!

[@dohalimilqarasdeldemenanci8483]

I was a hardcore player once, but I quickly became a casual after founding my own family. It's not just possible for us to prog a fight 6h a day.......not just possible.

[@alexREALTOR904]

We just got our clear! 1650 pulls since March over 54 actual raid days!! It was a group of 8 friends. We have full time workers, doctors, night shifters, infants... very full and busy lives, but we were dedicated. We would have a month off then grind again, some raid days lasted only an hour, most of them close to... or less than 2 hours, sometimes once a week. Point is. If my group of busy ass friends and professionals with kids and lives and medical conditions can do it, anyone can if you put your mind to it! I'm not salt at all for riches clear? He worked hard. And no body wants to watch a man wipe for 8 months 😪 congrats to him and thank you rich! For bringing people together and showing the world the amazing game of ffxiv!

[@mundalei4182]

hey xeems whats the pen app you used to explain shakies

[@gringgles2633]

my dps always drops on new fights cus i start focusing so hard on trying to watch for new mechanics that sometimes i even drop my chains

[@Enderlinkpawnu]

Rich wasn’t carried through TEA. the weakest player, sure, but not carried. It was a carry when I joined a PF group to farm the Thordan Extreme mount. It was a bunch of level 80s and I was there as a level 60 MCH because free trial and I spent most of the time dead on the floor because nobody was really bothering with mechanics which would one shot me. That is a carry.

[@intensellylit4100]

> PF > free trial ??

[@Enderlinkpawnu]

@@intensellylit4100 you can join a PF as a free trial account. You cannot form them, but you can join them.

[@intensellylit4100]

@@Enderlinkpawnu seriously? .... ...shit...

[@barachiel212]

WoW has a *very* distinctive art style that some prefer to the FFXIV aesthetic. That's the only way in which I would call WoW's graphics "better." But its entirely subjective. From a technical perspective (texture resolution, lighting, etc), FFXIV is by far a more technically impressive graphical powerhouse.

[@ababilashari9970]

imagine calling a game from 2013 (a "graphical powerhouse" (have you looked at the 2.0 hair textures lmao, sure you dont have a mod bud?) WoW is shit btw, but liking ff14 doesnt mean throwing away logic altogether

[@Carsu12]

@@ababilashari9970 even with mods, this game is extremely dated. AFAIK there are no vegetation texture mods, which is the biggest offender in dated looks department. And shitty antyaliasing solution, which is even more accentuated by dated textures

[@melissas4874]

I totally think Rich was carried, BUT that's only because I would also feel I was carried if I went into a group and everyone knew the fight except for me. I would rightly assume they were playing somewhat around my ignorance of the mechanics or watching out for me to screw up. Even doing some current savages I haven't done before I feel carried since I'm going in as BLM (I feel everyone has to take that into account). Maybe it's just a lack of confidence on my part though.

[@Sugartoast311]

I don't know why I haven't watched xeno before. So entertaining. Asmongold tier takes. Keep it up my bearded brother. Hopefully I can get on your raid level for endwalker. I'm a GNB main though so I'm scared 😨

[@XenosysVex]

I have hopes they extend no mercy and bandaid fix that shit lol

[@Sugartoast311]

@@XenosysVex either way your content will guide me through the changes. Keep it up you're awesome

[@XenosysVex]

@@Sugartoast311 haha thx a lot!

[@XAlpt]

@@XenosysVex SURELY THEY WILL BANDAID IT IN DAWNTRAIL STRUMMER

[@destrega984]

Do people forget that making content is his job? If he cleared it np and everyone was on mute, he didn't say anything, cam off and just concentrated on the fight it would have been shit content.

[@oj_furrylover8484]

This is probably the reason yoship dont like damage meter.

[@direnova6284]

So many people are bitter when other people have success.

[@LolwutlordOfTheBurningSausage]

I went to watch him stream prog and cheered him on >< I didn't know progging a fight and streaming it could be so entertaining, Very happy for him \o/

[@foulXD]

me and my buddies cleared TEA after god knows how many wipes, but man, IF you clear it, its so fucking worth it, best thing is, after you cleared it once, the second, the third and all other tries become WAY easier (obviously) i cant count how many times we cleared TEA, but all weapon types are glamed out. anyway, congrats to rich (i know its late but who cares)

[@wyzkun]

half the fight or probably 70% of the fight for ultimate is finding the group that want to do it with you. maybe socialize more. and clear it in a month.

[@Josco83]

I’m genuinely curious how many people who are salty over this have asked a friend who’s just cleared, “Hey, can you take my char next time you go? I’m gonna do the fight one day, I just really want that weapon UwU.”

[@frostmourne1986]

Shakies actually cost me my raid's first kill on old heroic Garrosh. Tapped my left click instead of side button which was a tank cd.

[@hellojello9070]

If a newer player did their research and did the mechanics perfectly along with the other players... are they getting carried or just doing the fight correctly and happens to have party members who aren't sht?

[@chrisynl]

Oh shit lol That was me that long comment you agreed with! Weird to get my comment read out loud in front of all those people. I have to be more careful :D I was wondering why I got some reddit rewards and lots of like on this post all of the sudden for no obvious reasons ^^ Glad you agreed haha Edit: and now seeing all those comments in the chat about me been your alt hahaha I cant stop laughing. A female version then ^^

[@carlharpke5118]

Thanks for all the content that you and your editors put together xeno.. I was having a pretty bad mental day but your content always cheers me up:) TY again man keep up the great work.. that voice you do at the end cracks me up every time😂😂

[@MurdocEd]

There is a HUGE difference between watching a guide while following pre-made starts and blind progression where you are informed where you went wrong and how to avoid it. Technically watching a guide can be considered cheating if you are a hardcore gamer. The most important part of any MMO is being able to create and/or join a group to be able to clear group content. If you are not able to properly socialize with other human beings and can not communicate in a respectful manor when a difficult situation arises (i.e., needing to replace a member of the group for not performing at the level of the rest of the group, or being late/absent for scheduled sessions) then endgame content may not be possible for you unless you get extremely lucky on party finder.

[@Longlius]

Raiding in general isn't very hard. It just takes a time commitment and luck with finding groups. Rich has both in spades. It's not surprising that he'd clear TEA. Looking forward to seeing him improve more and wishing I could find chill people on my DC to prog TEA with.

[@HarumiYu]

I do not get this community, there's not even a leaderboard, theres people fighting over colors in FFLogs playing as a healers and healing 0 for the damage, people want to play single player and complain about the achievement of other person who actually gather people around to play with, this game has zero competitive and have extreme sensitiveness among the player base, and people who complain mostly of the time are frustrated with their group (if have one) or do not even touch savage/ultimate because is scared to fuck up like fuck up the solo tribe quest that they did. I complain about the game giving accessibility to everybody to do everything just because they want, do not have any type of lock to filter the tiers for the person at least try with baby steps, so we have a bunch of players who does not know the basics swarming the end game, but these people do not even join this category, they just stay in their place saying bad things about the others who actually try, I am one of these people frustrated with the game state, but for other reasons, not because of people achieving what they try to. And always come someone saying "but... back in the day when I DID was harder", I play the game since beta 3, the game became user friendly for sure, more "easy" and stuff, at least in it core mechanics, but from someone who is starting today, will be hard, they will need to learn, they do not have the same experience as the player who say something like that and so on. People need to get the things for themselves, not for the others, since the game do not have anything inviting for the end game content nor for who is better or worst. I agree taking a stand for this streamer.

[@coderpup4639]

Guys I completed witcher 3 on the hardest difficulty!! What do you mean thousands of other people have as well? I guess my experiance, and emotions on my journey means nothing if other people cleared it all too. Grow up, the guy had a blast doing content in a game. It doesn't take away anything from the fun you had doing the same content in the same game.

[@hypeboy946]

this is why i watch Xeno's videos.

[@Knives7777]

I love Xeno 5:23 on another note... how I shut these arguments down in wow from similar idiots ask for their parse on their first kill or ask for their achievement. I have found that 99.99999% of the time they never even cleared the boss and the ones that did, did so dead / carried/ did no damage.

[@kinglohgock8169]

All my friends cleared Ultimates and Rich was the final push for me to attempt Ultimates myself now

[@Silidirian]

Before watching the main part and just from the intro, I'd put my thoughts into RichTEA clear: He kinda got carried, but not in the sense I feel a lot of the comments are about. He was taken through it by a group that had cleared the fight numerous times on multiple characters, so they could point out where to stand/what to do. He had his hand held a lot through learning the fight, and slight nudges during the actual clear. HOWEVER, he cleared the fight on the merits of his own skill at the end of the day. Even if there was some level of carrying done, if he wasn't good enough to earn the clear, he wouldn't have it, and there's no real room for arguement there. People in PF can repeatedly die to unsynced old content whilst having their hand held with callouts/rescue, and just from watching the kill clear, the minor nudges in the right direction were Rich asking for quick verrification on his positioning; "Am I right here?", to which he was told yes he was. He got through the fight, maintained rotation to the best of his ability (which was almost full uptime), and definitely deserved to come away a Triple Legend

[@MisterofBattle]

The reason people are mad is because we are all antisocial and awkward nerds who wish we could get a group of pro players to put up with our idiot selves learning the fight and be patient until we get through it. It's pure jealousy, because Rich got something awesome (a great group) and we all want that thing. It's not complicated, it's just nerds with fragile egos not wanting their special accomplishments made 'less special'.

[@dacbiet]

I would love to get any Legend title one day but I'm not that great in the game. But to be 3x Legend is impressive, especially when Rich started the game recently. Props to Rich.

[@ChaldeaWarmaster]

You don't have to be great to get a Legend title, friend. All you need is patience, a desire to learn, and good friends to help you. I had my frustrations in the past. But I have since gone past that.

[@sharmrenex736]

I'm new to this channel, but even when you say things I don't entirely like(not related to this video), your presentation is amusing. Good stuff, good video. Keep being you! That said, I've played ARR since launch and not done any of this new stuff. I am not great, but I could probably do it with a semi solid group. But IMO, that's the hardest part. Finding a semi solid group of people who understand mistakes happen and life gives not a solitary shit about your wants/plans... is the hardest part of Savage+. I gave up in SB at ever touching anything about normal raid levels personally. I don't have the patience to deal with the potential jerks in silence, and I don't wanna get banned for being brutally honest. I avoid it altogether. Anyway... a clear is a clear and I've always taught everyone I've recruited to FFXIV the same thing. Losing is fine, just try to learn... we are all new once. Had a guy try vote abandon a level 84 trial once after two pulls with 4 new ppl who made a 40% health progression on second pull while I was in a bad mood. I might have been reported by him, but w/e. People forget its a game. ANYWAY... Good video, good stuff! P.s. I adore your beard. Me wanty on muh face! (Not in a dirty way... or a Ted Bundy way...I'd delete this thought but it's too funny now...)

[@MrSquigeon]

I remember in ARR days, trying to do all the Ex Primals and Coils. Struggled to get clears on anything from groups just disbanding too quickly. Then one day joined a group that was going through all Ex Primals with newcomers welcome. Cleared Garuda, Titan, Ifrit, Levi and Mog in succession with ease. I think a few experienced guys were just helping a friend get a clear and I was lucky to grab a spot in the party. Got DCd before Ramuh and Shiva unfortunately but was still thankful for the progression I got.

[@ZeroScope100]

Does Rich having a grey parse really matter that much to people? It's an Ultimate, you still need good enough DPS to be able to clear these fights. Parses for Ult clears, to my logic (if I'm wrong please correct me), will still show moderately high numbers even if they're grey parses because in order to clear, you still need to how to do damage. I'm not sure if the way I worded that makes sense but regardless, people are trying way too hard to make it seem like Rich's clear wasn't well deserved.

[@lmpoknya]

It matters to anyone who wants to invalidate his clear, because the concept that someone is better than you is hard to digest, especially when you've sunk so many hours into something. And its not so much that the numbers are big and small for ultimate clears, its mainly that some people care a lot about how they perform compared to other people. Some in a healthy way ("How can i play better, this guy pulls 1k more dps than me consistently") and some in an unhealthy way ("Hah, my parses are 30 percent higher than this guy, hes a shitter")

[@lmpoknya]

@@Future_Fabulous I can speak as someone who used to be a part of that insecure minority back in HW. Clearing a fight that I struggled on felt really good and provided validation on my skill as a player. However, when I saw someone that I perceived as a "less competent player than me" clear the same fight, I tried to find any reason to justify that I "deserved the clear more than they did". Soon, raiding started becoming less about enjoying the raids and more about "I have to be better than X". Thankfully now, after taking a break from raiding for all of stormblood, I can enjoy doing raids again.

[@lmpoknya]

@@Future_Fabulous Oh I already came back to raid in 5.x, thoroughly enjoyed it

[@shauzar7893]

My sister I have recently clear uwu with a group of six people that I haven’t met before. we had good memories and bad memories . we had the highs and downs. we struggle but we go through all the challenges. we learn how to be patient and how we improve. We developed a friendship. I think ultimate is the content to put people together in the same space, field and emotions. I think people should value these kind of aspects more than the clear itself. People who ignore others journey are mostly have a lack of self fulfilling. It never been late to Sheath your sword and try.

[@Vaeynheart]

can't imagine being so subsumed with virtual numbers it offends me to see someone clear shit i can't. parse elitists really act different. people really think ffxiv parsing is the most competitive game out there, don't they?

[@LockheedMartinEnjoyer]

How to lose a couple brain cells 101

[@StealthMaster5k]

idk how delusional you have to be to think wiping literally 400+ times from any party members mistake over the course of a week is getting carried, just cuz people know callouts doesn't mean they're not prone to mistakes Also clear speed varies, youre either a fast learner or not, and thats facts

[@hannaschuyler8816]

The same people complaining about Rich's ultimate clears are probably the same people complaining about Max and a few others, boosting just to get to endgame content. Like, there are no set rules on how to play the game and you can't deny the fact that huge ass streamers are going to have connections to top tier raiders as is.

[@MrTyler7070]

I cant wait to see rich clear the endwalker ult the patch it comes out

[@AstrumKitten091]

Bruh that tweet you blocked was hilarious. My hardest time clearing UCoB was actually in july - september this year. with 7/8 cleared. 2 people were so bad we legit could prog one mechanic every half a month if we were lucky. Where is this mystical carry these fools keep talking about because i really wished for it back then >_>

[@pushingdaisies8919]

My fav one its the guy on twitter who talked lot of shit and blocked the replies hahahaha

[@zack-apsalar-rake]

Glad that we have a voice of senses. Really enjoy the video. But, yea. Getting 8 people who clicks and willing to grow together is the true ultimate for MMO. One small misunderstanding and a static will fall out. It’s crazy how people would rage on minor stuff.

[@firefox30570]

I honestly dont give a fck. The fact Is, rich got as much support as he could possibly get to clear those ultimates. So what? It doesn't change anything. The only reason I'm even here is because I saw xeno reacts to dumb comments I don't even care what it's about.

[@1010120]

I dont think Rich had a choice but to have top-tier help. It would have been terrible for the other team members if he had gone random pugs. If they weren't way, way better than it is fair to expect, they would have been shit on hardcore by his viewers. Also resident sleeper(tm)

[@JohannaFlow]

i ve seen rich in wow and now for a good while in ffxiv, i have to say i am happy to see him bring more ppl to ffxiv, and actually enjoying the game and the hard content... Now, as a mythic raider in wow with several cutting edges, and now as beginner raider in ff i can relate with the damn parses. Who really cares if is grey or green or purple on your first kill? I am telling you in ff or in wow, it doesnt matter! what matters is that the boss died, you got to the end. Some fights in ffxiv are nuts, you need to watch a damn documentary and get a phd in primals if u want to start ultimates or any other harder bosses; by the time u finished the guide, you forgot most of things that happen in ph1. Dont even get me started if u go in blind to progress and actually want to enjoy your first time. And for him is even more important coz his reaction hypes the stream. Now taking that aside and focusing on "the streamer" progressing at a faster pace then rest of ppl, even "carried" how some ppl say it, it s still hard! Sometimes ppl in your group that cleared it many times, get so used to the routine of the fight they stop calling stuff out, small things that might kill someone in an ultimate, who has less progress than them, coz if u are progressing, your attention is all over the place, you get the nerves pumped and have moments of brain freeze where you ask yourself did i fk up my rotation here? what animation did the boss? did i miss the window to dps? or the window to move in the right position? All in split second and when in doubt your instant response will be surive > anything. If we get the enrage, well at least i know where it ends, and now i ve seen the fight. Anyway not sure ppl will read this wall of text but this topic got me involved. Grats to rich and gg to you xeno for these nice topics. o/

[@CyrNomic]

The man spent 12 days and over 400 pulls to clear TEA. I think he earned and deserved his victory.

[@bigshirley8658]

The gate keeping of the FF community has revealed that they are just toxic, insecure community with a thin veneer of positivism. Toxic positivity is still toxic. Absolutely disgraceful.

[@friendlyneighborhoodatheis841]

Not the topic, i dont think of WoW graphics as "better," or "worse." WoW chooses its look, its a style choice. I like WoW's art style, but i like ffxiv's graphics better

[@hexi1722]

@13:36 that comment is 10/10, with all the people complaining that Rich got 'Carried', hopefully people will think that if he can do it, i can do it.

[@justaman4887]

These people just think everything is about them

[@BioMatic2]

10:34 that speaks to me . Im someone who has never dable outside of "normal" on mmo's, but i've been trying extremes on FF XIV and for someon like me thats a big deal. No matter how much i prepare or hoiw many guide i watch, the first time seing a mechanic im just fucking awful, i get the shackies and my rotation goes to hell. But once i've experienced it and know how to excuted what i learned then i can actually do it well. And you know what? im proud of myself, im probably garbage compared with actually good player but at least im finally given it a shot .

[@Inhaledcorn]

I'm happy for him. I haven't cleared any Ultimate, and this guy, who has played far less than me and joined much later, sat down, got himself a bomb-ass group, and cleared all of them. Did he get carried? Maybe. Does it matter, though? Does that really make his accomplishments any less amazing? He was at this for hours for fucking days. He was basically going at this like Day 1 prog. That's some real dedication, commitment, and sheer fucking will. That is something I just... don't have. And, y'know, say what you want, but you gotta admire the guy for that. He dropped a game that he had played for years and said, "Yes. I want to do this. I want to do this before the next expansion in this game that has welcomed me." Why are y'all mad? Sure, my parses may be better, but I don't got one of those fancy glowing weapons and a title to show for it. If he wants to get better parses, he absolutely has the ability to in time. Edit: 10:56 Shit, I get the shakies all the time from getting close to clearing EXs and Savages. I can't imagine how bad it would be for Ultimates.

[@oriain81]

Absolutely if we all had access to the seasoned players he had of course we would do the same. Fair play to him, I wonder how many viewers he had on his first stream ever ? Like him or hate him he worked to get where he is. Nobody handed it to him on a plate.

[@Dude_Its_Michael]

what a great video, thanks for this!

[@prinstyrio0]

It's crazy to me how many people scoff it completely as "streamer privilege", like it's somekind of lucky thing to be born into like royalty. Yes, some are lucky, but it still takes talent, dedication and more to be a successful streamer, it's not all about having fun playing games and just being yourself with people, that does come with a lot of them, but you also see before these people became popular they had to adopt a personality to get any attention, to work hard to reach places or some weren't even the same confident person they ended up as by the end. It might just be me who see it this way, but I've felt the same with celebrity status. It's not my dream job and I wouldn't wanna turn my gaming hours into a job. There would be a ton of other anxiety about being consistent with it, streaming the right games, keeping a certain energy up for them and the addled brain of trying to be a good streamer and a good gamer, also the constant worry of am I doing enough? Am I stagnating in my entertainment? How can I grow and keep my audience? I think people ignore all this just as people ignore whatever made a celebrity become a celebrity, some may fit into this dream, but I think many can't see past the illusion. So someone like Rich clearing TEA can't really be compared to any of us, but also I wouldn't truly call it a privilege. For most of us reaching to his point isn't about "being lucky" but also working hard and seeing opportunities in building your audience, as well as some lacking the charisma or personality, but I have a strong belief just about anyone can gain that. Just as there are naturally talented artists and musicians, there are talented artists and musicians who started from nothing and became legends from sheer dedication to honing that skill. It's a hard situation to judge, just appreciate it and that it's a different world of raiding, cause when you raid you're worried about your performance in it and that's it. Maybe you got other stuff on your mind outside it, but that's about it. Big streamer also worries about entertaining thousands of people, where a whole pull you might be stuck thinking about something to say or bring up in the new few minutes. It's easy to judge the current point a big streamer is at and see it as privilege, without looking at where they started from, what they did to reach their current point and what goes on behind the screen.

[@mfecteau90]

I love how he was praising the FF14 community for being so welcoming and kind and everything, and then they do that.

[@ChaldeaWarmaster]

We are not perfect. We have our fair share of bad apples just as much as any other community. They are just not doing it openly in the game but rather on their respective discord communities.

[@lazybonesfragments9143]

Just got back to 14 didnt know who rich was or that he cleared XD im so jealous now that i wasnt back on 14 back then . I dont have any ultimate clear yet .shoulda ride the wave

[@TobinatorTx]

Well, actually you need all 8 people for heavensfall, you can cheese it with tank lb if 1 is dead, but i'm not sure if that counts, also blackfire with 7 people is way more annoying and also tenstrike. It can be done with 7 but more are probably gonna die then. So technically you need 8 ppl for many trios in Ucob if you dont cheese stuff with tank lb or are willing to sacrifice even more people. I dont think Rich got "carried" carried, but i do think that he got a bit carried by his partymembers dps. But he' learned the mechanics and he's done them. Ultimates are not just putting out godtier dps, it's more about masterjng difficult mechanics as a group. So yeah, i think he worked for it and ultimately he deserves the clear. Also took way longer than Ucob and Uwu so he had to suffer a bit haha and get "real" ultimate prog vibes.

[@DarkDyllon]

1 thing i can't agree on is "triggers aren't cheating" yes, yes it is. Having an program literally call out the mechanic BEFORE it even happens, BEFORE you are suppose to know what mechanic the boss is gonna do is cheating. we've had someone in our static that was at 1st silent but then installed cactbot and started doing callout, he made the mistake of calling out an mechnic before it happened, we asked how he knew, he said he installed cactbot, we gave him 3 choices, either uninstal cactbot, keep quiet during raids or leave. he left, being able to react to an mechanic is another skill that things like triggers take away. like he used it in E11S. he would literally say "it'll be fire, stack up" before fire even appeared. Sure this isn't an major thing, but i've seen a friend use that in UCOB and called out the next mechanic before it happened so everyone was already in their positions before they were suppose to. not jealous Rich cleared it, haven't tried ultimate yet, will at some point, just an massive time investment that i'll get to at some point, good on him for clearing the fights atleast.

[@brainer5457]

Narcicistic Elitists at their best. Any player, whether new or old have something specil called "POTENTIAL" it's cause of this "potential" that allows players to improve and hone their knowledge and skills. Elitists have the mindset that they are the only special bunch that can achieve the hardest content. But with enough time and effort anyone can. It's not comparing WoW players to FF14 players it's simply comparing the weak minded to the strong minded.

[@Mysterious_XIV]

Why stream Raid: Shadow Legends when you can stream Raid: Shadowbringers?