Xeno Reacts to "The Fall of 76" by Internet Historian

[@chloe5886]

bro xeno actually hasn’t heard about anything in the world since heavensward, he was just under a rock letting his beard ferment

[@Linosek279]

_Ferment_

[@zoshida]

an chatter said "MMO bobble KEKVV"

[@glock986]

xeno has become one of the best react andys in this downtime of content, love it

[@Ryuusaku1986]

Damn Xeno is like asmon. SOMEHOW both of them were hiding under the rock playing their respective games (Xeno- FF, Asmon-WoW) and soooomehow never heard bout one of the largest games xD Damn i love those guys

[@GarethXL]

wait this isn't asmon that finally grown a beard?

[@Ryuusaku1986]

@@GarethXL ... its not the beard thats asmons problem :P

[@WeiderMystic]

That bag scandal was legendary. My coworker was in that mess LOL. He was so salty

[@legendarymarston9174]

What WAS the aftermath??

[@skhighglitch4217]

@@legendarymarston9174 4 months late on this, but; The bags got sent out. But the quality was, well, poopy. But it was made of Canvas!

[@legendarymarston9174]

@@skhighglitch4217 Ah astonishing

[@TheDavid0408]

Xeno, Now that you are fully a React streamer you need a partner to bounce off the reaction between you two. its the next step in your evolution

[@elicious7574]

arthas duh. he even hosts him /s

[@AzathothLives]

I'm pretty sure the whole thing with the nuka dark went like this: They were planning on shipping it in a standard-ass bottle. No special nothing, just a completely bog standard bottle. Then when the gigantic shitshow that was the launch happened, and they were ass-deep in customers screaming at them, someone took another look at this and was like "Oh no... we were planning on bait and switching the customers with this too. QUICK! Find a way to give them a bottle!" But actually spending the time and resources to put a custom shaped bottle into works at the last minute would have been too costly and delayed it even further. So what would you do? Obviously you make a quick cheap plastic shell for your boring bottle and hope the customers don't somehow notice. Its a really transparent last-minute patch job.

[@boanoah6362]

Except they already had the Nuka bottle glass molds, they were just using them to produce lamps and shit.

[@javonyounger5107]

7:26 That is typically a mistake you only see in older games. Devoplers sometimes make the mistake of making things like movement a product of frames rather than a product of time.

[@Elanoxial]

We did it boys. We found out why Bethesda tries to sell Skyrim to you every year. They need that money from how much they lost during 76

[@karlklein2263]

Xeems being one of the best react channels in recent history isn't the timeliness expected, but I'm happy to be here.

[@RurouniStarchild]

Do you know what the company's tagline should be? "BETHESDA: We Aren't Planning On Doing Anything About It"

[@RectPropagation]

I'm just happy to see someone else be as horrified as I was that the game forced some people to reinstall their console's software or bricked their computers.

[@B1RDSEYE]

Hey Zeno, in case you watch the comments, that ant zombie fungus that you mentioned, is actually the basis of the zombie virus in The Last of Us. I don’t remember the progression, but I think it jumped from ants to animals, then animals to humans.

[@calumteine2008]

The newspaper in the bathroom you can read as Sarah in the first game implies the fungus adapted to mass agricultural crops, and was spread worldwide through distribution of infected produce.

[@BKPrice]

It also sounds like the concept was used in Mass Effect 1's Feros mission with the Thorian, spreading spores that the colonists inhale and then are mind controlled.

[@Phoebe5448]

Cordyceps. Also I saw that documentary. Scared the crap out of me.

[@mckenzie.latham91]

Damn nature, you scary!

[@boanoah6362]

It's so strange to me that people freak out about a brain fungus controlling your mind when we already have brain controlling parasites in humans... literally changes your personality, alters moods, and routinely causes still births/miscarriages. It's way freakier.

[@atheist101]

Bethesda has used the same engine for a very long time and an out dated engine can't really run new games and concepts. Many games had systems tied to fps, especially Bethesda games. It's not a big deal on console where frame rate is locked, but on pc you get some people zooming around and others in slowmo. I really hope they have made a new game engine for ES6, if it ever comes out.

[@passingrando6457]

Nope, already confirmed Starfall and TESVI are on the same old gamebryo/creation engine. Bethesda was a good company once. But they've been coasting and getting lazier and lazier since at least TESIV.

[@ReneSchickbauer]

If you sell anything for a fixed price (including presale) and after that realize it's too expensive to make, you only have two legal options: a) make it anyway for a loss and keep to the sales contract or b) cancel the sales contract and refund the customer including all losses incurred by the customer (banking fees etc.). The customer isn't responsible for your screwup when determening the sales price. Sending out a different product to that specified in the sales contract is fraud. In the U.S. (keeping in mind that the sale was over the internet) this can be classified as wire fraud, which turns it from a state jurisdiction into a federal jurisdiction, which in turn means your trial has a chance to appear live on TV[*]. The fraud was far too small, but it certainly would also have been fun watching Bethesda management getting roasted by politicians in an U.S. Congress investigation. [*] Well, on C-SPAN at least, with the lowest picture and sound quality one can squeeze out of modern encoders without using potatoes as cameras. But you have a good chance to have more viewers than a Senate Pro forma session.

[@Brenelael]

Bethesda has the dubious distinction of being the very first developer to be caught up in a cash shop scandal. It was when they released the Horse Armor for Oblivion at an exorbitant price. It caused quite the backlash in the gaming community at the time.

[@eolsunder]

No Bethesda wasn't ever that bad, but they got in leaders who got greedy and those people started all this junk. They made good games, and really didn't start all this junk until recently with FO76, about that time.

[@Brenelael]

@@eolsunder No... This actually happened and it's pretty much considered the first Cash Shop debacle of note. Just look up Oblivion Horse Armor and you'll find out.

[@boanoah6362]

As someone who purchased horse armor I can guarantee it was as bad as it sounds.

[@kurokusa-199]

can't wait for internet historian to do a blizzard episode XD

[@shadowdragon8168]

Same, that’s going to be a good one

[@jjpark98]

Or CDPR/Cyberpunk one. Not sure if he'll still do that.

[@seekittycat]

I imagine that he made it already and then some new news comes out and he has to remake it again.

[@dustinrausch5008]

@@jjpark98 I think he made a cameo in someone else's video talking about the issues with Cyberpunk. I could be remembering that wrong, though.

[@vsGoliath96]

@@jjpark98 He technically collabed with another KZbinr to make a Cyberpunk episode on a different channel around mid-2021, I think?

[@Singarti]

- Xeno complains about ads baked into the video. - KZbin serves 9 ads in this video. - This is fine.

[@genultz4866]

He didn't even talk about the Helmet causing people to get cancer and some almost died, the very same helmet from the power armor edition. Which had a recall shortly after.

[@Chrisfragger1]

Yeah, lol... The helmet was a bigger issue than the bag.

[@FenerX]

I love xeno reacting to stuff ngl this is a good timeline

[@norricdaoc8746]

The zombie ant fungus inspired an X-Files episode "Firewalker", that one was sick.

[@grigori9061]

I swear the releases of fallout 76 and no man sky and then the way the companies handled their respective games is like a perfect mirror image of how the gaming industry used to operate and how it currently operates

[@mss0267]

No one's gonna mention how perfect the timing of that resub at 20:20 notification was, huh? A literal Fell Cleave.

[@chrisanderson7820]

That email response to the bag, holy fuck balls. Hahaha

[@Richiedoesmc]

The ant fungus is what the cordecypts zombies in The Last of Us is based off of.

[@shadowbug1811]

“Look Tomar, it’s you!”

[@Phoenix696]

I hope he reacts to the series of He Will Not Divide Us. That one's the best.

[@aoiumixiv]

He did like 2 days ago. Hopefully he uploads it.

[@n124ajdx]

Xeno: I've never played this game before. Me : oh you are so lucky

[@IRedpunk]

I often come back to see this video, it’s so well made

[@vsGoliath96]

Internet Historian's sponsored ads are always top notch, honestly.

[@matrix3509]

To answer your question about Bethesda's track record, Bethesda's fanbase is a bit like Blizzard's. They'll buy and consume whatever shit they're fed. Their fanbase only exists because the modding community fixes every game Bethesda puts out for free. Anyone who knew Bethesda's track record knew that Fallout 76 would be a trash fire because an always online game will necessarily not allow modding or unofficial patches. Once you take away Bethesda's primary source of free bugfixing, it was a forgone conclusion the game would be a shitfest. The thing the fanbase doesn't like mentioning is that every Bethesda game launches in a nigh unplayable state.

[@JoshSweetvale]

I haven't bought a Bethesda product since Skyrim. In 2011.

[@eno88]

18:30 Private Hudson : Maybe it's like an ant-hive? Private Vasquez : Bees, man. Bees have hives!

[@smartalec2001]

We can't expect Todd to do *all* the work.

[@Mugthraka]

34:06 Everyone joked about Beth releasing a new SKyrim version before we even get any image or anything about TES6... Then they released Slyrim Anniversary Edition..., at this point, the memes makes themselfs...

[@PregnantOrc]

Have Bethesda always been this bad? Two words: Horse Armor.

[@reginaldfluffington5142]

Todd cradling skyrim going into stasis was absolutely hilarious in 2021

[@Tinywars]

What about the Power Armour Helmet and the mould that grows inside it?

[@Gideon_the_Seraph]

drink everytime he says "wait" or "woah woah woah"

[@imswanronson3558]

IH: *says anything* Xeno: waitwaitwaitwait HOLD ON hold on

[@Matkiller900]

My favourite react streamer is back at it, love to see it!

[@Chrisfragger1]

He never even talked about how the helmet that came with the Power Armor edition was possibly a threat to the wearers life. It had a rare kind of MOLD in the lining from improper storage before shipping.

[@boanoah6362]

Not rare, just bog standard toxic black mold.

[@peger]

18:15 fun fact ther is also a parasite that take over a snail. Super creapy stuf

[@EroKAGEart]

Damn, I'd forgotten all about 76 lmao Remember the mouldy helmet scandal too?

[@ericmarley7060]

"Not a lot of people know this, but I'm quite a good rap artist. A *rappist,* if you will." - InternetHistorian @ 34:39

[@Canada1994]

Technically speaking this is the last game Bethesda developed and published. There was Elder Scrolls Blades after Fallout 76 but it wasn't a full game.

[@kharnael]

I actually had the "chance" to taste that Nuka dark rum, and it's shit KEKW

[@llSuperSaiyanll]

18:40 What you just described is called the "Cordyceps Virus." The same virus from the video game "The Last of Us." And yes, it's a real virus that infects insects.

[@jakkrit6910]

13:54 i think they plan from the start that the game is just a base and what make the killing is in-game cash shop. so it save some money i think just give em card board instead of cd-rom

[@bolikde9389]

The Bug with the Gamespeed tied to the Framerate existed since Fallout 3.

[@Tomha]

I had actually pre-ordered it xP I knew it was gonna be a buggy game, but thought it'd just add to the fun for me and the boys. Turns out the bugs were so much worse then I could imagine. It's like thinking "Oh nothing too bad would happen here. Why would it?" Only BAM! Somebody crashed a semi truck into the building! There was no endgame content or anything at all to do so the only pleasure I had in the game was to play a Bounty Hunter. When you'd grief players a bounty is placed on you, on the main map the bad boy can't see anyone, but everyone see's him marked for death, and whoever kills him takes the bounty out of his pocket. During the early days, bounties were a plenty so having my guy dressed as Uncle Sam gunning you down was fun...till I faced the Bugged Outlaw. The dude had the invincibility glitch, meaning he couldn't be killed, even if reduced to 0 HP. I had a full lock n load montage and blew his anus apart taking out 350% of his total health and he did not die. It was effectively the last straw for my sanity in 76. A few years later, the game is actually patched to a decent game now, but still lacking in endgame fun.

[@phatymcdaddy]

that whole ant fungus was the premise of what happened in the last of us but on a humanity scale

[@DARKLORD97873]

finally i was waiting for the react a long time ago ........

[@dagonofthedepths]

To be fair this is a company that released the same 10 year old game, what? 5-6x? for full price and monetized mods (among other things). They have always been greedy they just went to far this time. Kind of sad really, I remember when people where pissed by the $5 horse armor DLC that did nothing but look cool. Now it's so normalized nobody cares. That bar just keeps siding on down the hill.

[@delicioustoast123]

that fungus is cordyceps. it's also what "the last of us" was based on

[@Elmithian]

Unlike No Man's Sky, there was a lot of greed and belief that customers are moronic sheep from Bethesda. Meanwhile the Devs of No Man's Sky simply overpromised beyond their ability. I ain't gonna give a company chance the third time because of pure greed. And some here may try to argue that they are improving Fallout 76 even now. But the thing is, unlike Hello Games who decided to make up for it without demanding payments, paid dlc and so on for their expansions, Bethesda went subscription model and even had that "microtransaction" shop from the start of the game.

[@hunmg3769]

That ant infecting fungus is what the last of us game is based on

[@SynthLizard8]

There's somthing I really like about a guy having a big red fiery beard.

[@hashrulsubzero]

13:52 Just like Overwatch (the first one) when it was sold as physical copy for PS4. The only thing that is useful is the case itself. The cover art and its insert, just throw it away. Keep the case as spares lol.

[@Fuzz32]

I’ve heard that one of the best ways to tell that a film is going to flop is by seeing if it’s over advertised. I guess one of the best ways to tell that a game will flop is by seeing if it’s overhyped.

[@paulbryan6716]

Hate to burst your bubble, dude. Normal Fallout 4 was not great. The modders made it great, not Bugthesda.

[@AndrevusWhitetail]

"In every bethesda game there's a dev room" Exactly! Usually it's called something like "QASmoke" (At least in elder scrolls games since Oblivion, could probably also apply to Morrowind), and at least in those games you needed access to console commands and the coc (center on cell) command.

[@thegrimcritic5494]

You know, I wasn’t even involved with the hype or subsequent outrage. You know why? Because the instant Fallout 76’s concept was announced, I IMMEDIATELY said out loud, “Wow, that sounds like a horrible idea for a game.” Months later lo and behold I was right. Call me a mf prophet man.

[@Brand-yk6dw]

he basically explained what the last of us zombies were made from

[@HenSt-gz7qj]

Basically it all started since ZeniMax (the company that owned Bethesda) new CEO came around and he changed a lot of things within the company and how Bethesda operates.

[@sobrirosdriana3901]

Wait till he watch the cruise ship.

[@duckdude8266]

My friend bought the drink and we tried it. It tasted even worse then it looked.

[@patrickmurray3846]

canvas being too expensive or not enough of is a straight up lie. The USA military makes big duffel bags (that are like 10x the size) and rucksacks (heavy duty backpack, that's 2x the size of failout 76 bags). There is also a x-large version of the rucksack bag ya can find in outdoor hobby stores as well as military duffel bags. The real reason was Tod just wanted to cut as much corners as possible.

[@alek2913]

21:34 people seem to forget about horse armor and how you can pretty much link much of the shitty dlc gaming culture we have today to Oblivion's dlc and thus Bethesda.

[@SPCsmith21]

That beard is legendary. I can only hope I can grow that in the next 50 years.

[@ForgottenGames]

Country roads is still my alarm clock :P

[@ShowMeYaMovez]

Xeno's such a boomer. I'm reliving the betrayal of so many things I wanted to hide in my memory

[@vabvaab]

12:59 AMAZING

[@LordMidichlorian]

Indeed. Beware the hype. Even if it's after the release of something. So, I'm scared about Endwalker. And he didn't mention the helmets riddled with fungi. Blamed on the company that storage of one of the delivery companies.

[@Selnathorn]

F76 tanked so hard that a local shop here in Germany was selling ps4pro for 200 euros less but it was bundled with the game

[@Yisusaurio]

26:49 He is that emoji. xD

[@mheilig]

He did not get the @let them eat cake@ joke...my disappointment is immeasurable.

[@Aisaaax]

Maths on stream is always exciting and never goes wrong

[@osvaldofigueredo9512]

I remember finding 76 in those Black Friday baskets for 10$ in the same year lol

[@trifontrifonov4297]

Somebody tell him to watch Sseth videos. I think he would deeply enjoy it.

[@carrot708]

That essay thing is doubly bad when you realise that they're basically trying to get bug-exploiters to admit that they were using third party cheat software and that there are no exploitable bugs in 76

[@seraphinaaizen6278]

This is what happens pretty much every time a big corporation lets is marketing team rung a project and it ceases to be about passion and starts to be about bleeding people try.

[@MrEd8846]

My friend bought this game and before they had a chance to play it Bethesda gave them a refund and they couldn't play the game unless they bought it again. They didn't even request a refund

[@HuhuMoka]

Thankyou Mr bearded strummer. I really hoped for this upload

[@DruuzilTechGames]

It "just works". 21:55 - Bethesda games are ALL buggy shit, but the modding community eventually fixes them and Bethesda takes credit for putting out "great games". They've been using the same game engine for like 20+ years. Starfield (the new space game they're making) is STILL using this engine, and I guarantee it will suffer from the same bugs as all their previous titles. The reason this game's bugs were so evident is that it's an "online only" title and thus modders weren't allowed access to the code to "fix" it for them.

[@powerofanime1]

The story about the ants...yup, that's Cordyceps. The inspiration for The Last of Us.

[@C0smicr3aper]

The game crashing causing the os to corrupt on consoles happens with more than Fallout 76. I had it happen with rdr2 as well.

[@patrickmurray3846]

easy, remove the dev room from live servers and only have it on internal test server.

[@samwilkinson9309]

They've been on a downward spiral since the skyrim remakes (there was the horse armour before but it didn't seep into destroying their main games until later)

[@LordPlagus777]

Careful, Xeno. They might remove the like button too.

[@MLPDethDealr32]

I never bothered. The moment they gave that detail that its online and an MMO, i went back to playing New Vegas.

[@Spika94]

Yea, chat is being dumb when they say "yes" because Bethesda did have a great track record prior to F76. The games they made were buggy for sure, but you can't tell me Skyrim would be great without the bugs. That's honestly a big part of why that game just never dies and stays fun.

[@aelix56]

Bethesda has been in a steady decline since Morrowind

[@youtousim]

This is pure internet gold.

[@Pacific_Spirit459]

Hype is what created this awful Pre-order culture we're stuck in. It makes people purchase something for reasons that have nothing to do with the actual product or service. You buy with emotion rather than logic where hype is concerned. This is why it always makes me smile to see it when hype backfires on a company. :)

[@Mugthraka]

6:23 Dude be like "FO76 isn't that bad i am enjoying myself on it"... There's people in the world that enjoy's Necrophilia, Pedophilia and Zoophilia... Doesn't mean its a good thing...

[@123armyoftwo]

Hopefully Xeno reacts to IH's stuff on the second channel, some of the vids there are rly funny too

[@MaakaSakuranbo]

Which one? He kinda has a bunch of them I guess you mean Incognito?

[@indecisivewolf5620]

I think that Fallout 76 has come a long way. I truly believe the game is good now and it's up there as one of my favorite Bethesda games. The company can always do better and I hope they do. But there are people who still refuse to acknowledge that 76 has come into its own.

[@eolsunder]

yes that is true FO 76 is actually good to play now, but remember this is THREE YEARS after, so yes, hopefully its functional 3 years after its release date. The problem was, it wasn't functional 3 years ago, on its release date.

[@indecisivewolf5620]

@@eolsunder I'm not blind to that. I played the game at launch. Played for a week straight and then dropped it until about 2 weeks before Wastelanders came out. Believe me, I absolutely have a problem with games coming out broken and being patched up later. All I'm saying is that I give credit to them for not just giving up on 76 after the backlash, even if that backlash still continues to this day.

[@Nikolaos34]

Horse armor DLC is all that must be said

[@richardv5385]

Ironically I quit playing 76 when they patched all the glitches, money/item dupes which made the game grindy again. Lol

[@wastelandlegocheem]

What pisses me off about the dev room is that it's an open world game that they talk a lot about free exploration, but if you DARE explore this open world completely, PERMABANNED. If they don't want people exploiting, just fix the issue yourselves instead of being lazy assholes. Like the bug fix mod in fallout 4 that forces you to get rid of achievements wven though the bugs that get fixed can literally ruin your playthrough with broken scripts.

[@Foreststrike]

I was ashamed that this launched on my birthday. It's the same with Unus Annus' death. My soul is forever tainted. Also, yeah, fuck buying ANYTHING from game retailers now, they've been ousted by online marketing and the fact that you don't even NEED physical copies of a game on a disc anymore. I learned my lesson WELL with Fallout: New Vegas.

[@atheist101]

Oh and I bought it full price on the Xbox, immediately regretted it and didn't get a refund. It's the last time I buy a Bethesda game at launch, I'll wait a few months for the reviews