Xenogears - Unknown Enemy Revealed! - Id (Boss)

Extremely badass fight. That is all. Also, no video for Friday.
Overview
In this fight, you will get your ass handed to you by Id, who is now revealed to be that unknown enemy. Don't think this is one of those scripted to lose fights that you might be able to win. You CAN lose this, and will Game Over if you do.
Video Spoilers
So if you recall from the "Unknown Enemy" video I put up, I mentioned how this enemy is Fei when he goes "out of control" and becomes this scary intimidating powerful enemy. So you're probably wondering why he doesn't look like Fei. Well, both Fei and his Gear transform to look different in this state. Only Citan knows who he is and for some reason does not bother cluing everyone else in (or perhaps he isn't certain).
You'll probably also remember that Id looks exactly like the person in the flashback from the first Xenogears video I put up. That's because Id is that person. You also probably remember I stated that Id will be explained fully eventually. This is not the video it will be explained in.
Stats (note: copied from previous fight, might be a level off for some)
Citan: LV42 - Penguin Coat, Metal Helmet, Step Shoes
Bart: LV41 - Black Snake - Penguin Coat, Leather Hat, Stanima Ring
Elly: LV42 - Lunar Rod - Penguin Coat, Silver Beret, AntiEthStone
Strategy
Okay, the general strategy is to just freaking stay alive. Which is hard to do with Id constantly pummeling you. He's able to do two Deathblows in one move sometimes, meaning if he hits the same target with it, they're KOed. So hope you packed plenty of Zetasols to revive them right away.
If you were smart and brought Billy into this dungeon unlike me, then his full heal will be immensely helpful here. If not, you'll have to rely on Citan to heal, which will suck because he may be your power character right now with his strong Deathblows.
There's really nothing else to mention about this fight. Just keep everyone alive at high HP at all times and keep slamming him with Deathblows when you get the chance and you should become victorious.
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[@Harkz0r]

This was the part when I seriously knew there had to be SOME sort of connection between Id and Fei. I mean, both Grahf and Wiseman have similar styles to Id, but Id uses Fei's style EXACTLY. His normal attack string is all 4 triangle attacks + 2 square attacks (8 AP string? whaaa?) and he uses the same deathblows too.

[@YophiSmith]

I think that was to display his power (the 8 AP string). Being that the maximum you could use was seven, his attacks went to 8 just to show off that he could have easily killed the team. I never figured out that Id was Fei until they said so. I knew there was a connection but between Grahf, Wiseman, Fei, and Id, I couldn't see any of them being the same person. They really tricked me with the pronoun game when Fei's father looked at Grahf and looked at Id and said, "You will not take him." I seriously thought he was protecting Fei from them instead of actually referring TO Id.

[@jonathanabgrall6075]

Its one of the things that make the game so brilliant, all the subtle cues to plot twists given through gameplay.

[@elpato54]

I kinda knew immediately ID was Fei. It was almost too obvious with everything else (Ramsas flashback, the many chaotic moments, etc). It was still a well done and original plot device with the way it was presented

[@brokentuta]

i already suspect Fei was Id from the flashback and cutscene before this. When Fei destroying the village should be a death giveaway

[@Dhalin]

Just look at his face, it's rather obvious. Same mouth, same eyes, just lighter skin and red hair.

[@futureicon23]

Id went real easy on everyone here. With the power he had he could beat up gears singlehandedly.

[@TonyBMan]

With his power he could have RE-sunk the Zeboim continent again....or he probably could have raised the entire thing out of the depths back to the surface with the Zohar's energy output. How sick would that have been if Id had raised Zeboim back to the surface and like claimed it....woulda been cool having your aux members have to go in there and try to beat this "mysterious intruder"...little did they know...

[@bustymcnutters801]

I remember the first time I did this fight I assumed it was one of those scripted "you can't win" battles so I didn't bother wasting items or do much healing. Then I got the Game Over screen. "God damn."

[@jonathandiosa5739]

Busty McNutters thats too funny.

[@Eriqzzzz]

That happened to me once playing one of the earlier phantasy stars for sega

[@Dhalin]

Star Ocean 2 did that with a couple bosses... you do single digits of damage and they 2 shot you... but if you die it's Game Over. Instead, you have to survive 60 seconds and then the battle ends.

[@trinascent]

Best RPG ever made. Too bad that the creators made shortcuts in disc two...

[@darkswildstyle]

disc 2 should of been as long as disc 1 like fei gets lost with in ID or jailed again right! something that will cause the characters to loose themselves again

[@shing02]

story was just too much should have been two games lol

[@intelligentignorance]

Budget cuts midway through. You can tell that disc 2 should have been so much more, but then the budget fell through, they had to change it to story-telling mode in order to compress all of it into just the two discs.

[@Zeiss120]

It was longer... Budget cuts midway through development can been seen.

[@doncapoeira8905]

intelligentignorance still the greatest game ever made...

[@cyanrazorCel]

The game did such a good job making me totally forget about the fact that Fei was gone from the party, so I wouldn't suspect who Id was. I also remember this fight being very hard.

[@MurakamiTenshi]

This fight was very hard for young me, especially when I could not keep Elly up for the life of me. Id focused solely on her.

[@cyanrazorCel]

@@MurakamiTenshi Probably intentional. in the fight with graff (when your team is in their gears), graff never attacks Elly.

[@nikushim6665]

It did both, it also tried to make it obvious too. ID and Fei have the same attacks. But that aside id's name alone is a big reflag in (Freudian psychology there is the Ego, Super ego and id, id being pleasure and raw desire.)

[@nikushim6665]

@@MurakamiTenshi It was a rough fight, it was all about row order to minimize damage same with Grapf/miang(executioner) at the end of disc 1. Shame that 90% of the plot of those aspects where cut out due to budget cuts.

[@cyanrazorCel]

@@nikushim6665 And Id doesn't even look that different from Fei; just looks like an awakened version of him.

[@matthewchrist9082]

Just such a cool game with so many memorable characters. And the music. Damn, Square just isn't the same. I'm playing Final Fantasy 15 right now and it's so corny and lame, and the characters are so bland. What the hell happened to Square, they were so magical

[@hamubansultpogi]

Enix happened, basically

[@tuantrananh4015]

ikr a side character from xenogears have more back story and personality than main character in FFXV

[@mikeymcflyhd]

This was back when it was squaresoft, ever since the merge with enix and it became square enix, yes it lost a lot of the magic

[@TheMixedPlateFrequency]

It was not Enix fault. They just have new workers now. I don't think any of the workers who worked on these titles are there anymore, most probably retired or work someplace else. Even the most important people on the projects aren't really there anymore and I think they left way back.

[@XenoVis]

@@TheMixedPlateFrequency didn't a lot of the old Squaresoft workers go to Monolithsoft?

[@nathanknight848]

wish there was more foot battles the death blows are awesome

[@SmallGreenPlanetoid]

I think I must have been the only one who didn't realize who Id was until Citan explained it, even when I was playing this game back when it came out. Seriously, when he first showed up the first thing I thought was "how come this guy knows all the same moves as Fei? It's going to be interesting seeing Fei fight him!" Funny... in a game with bipedal talking dolphins, mutants, and giant robots, it never occurred to me that someone could change their hair color... or skin color... or summon armored tights... or change paint color from blue to red just by willing it...

[@Nothaut]

Those punches... sound painful.

[@DanielBeaulieu]

I remember playing this in probably 1999 or 2000, I had one of those stupid 3-party memory cards with the filing system and every time I got onto the second disk my file would corrupt and I had to start over. I remember loving the game but I gave up, and I never finished it... here I am 14 years later thinking about downloading a ROM of this. Is it worth it?

[@HolyDarknex]

It is, you just need to know all the story.

[@Its_an_Eze]

more than definitely

[@drumsaredope]

I picked up a brand new copy probably about 10 years back. I finished it prior, but still wanted it. I played it in highschool. Definitely my favorite rpg ever.

[@jonathandiosa5739]

PsN for 10 bucks

[@reggiemoore755]

I downloaded it to my PS3 from the psn store loved it also downloaded legend of dragoon

[@darkssj2]

to me this is the most chilling boss fight because of the theme.

[@emishimaru-sama6449]

I will never forget this. Still as epic as I remember It happened. The mecha descended at a super fast speed, and just at the screen, It almost Instantly slowed down back to cero. And then the music playing In the background. Just pure gorgeous and perfection!

[@ShyRage1]

I love the music, it always got me thinking

[@drumsaredope]

Xenogears was such a badass game!

[@darkaoshi27]

Was?! Don't you mean 'is'?

[@nicogalax]

@@darkaoshi27 is

[@NobleSixElite0000]

This is an a era of straight epic right here this is when the have industry cared man

[@xdan-]

Wait is it even possible to compare those two? They seem too different for me.

[@reecey54]

One of the best JRPG's that ever graced the playstation.

[@koontzsama]

His blows seem powerfully af with that sounds effect

[@JD0x0]

+Michael Koontz they are. I think the video poster must've had some heavy armor on, because I remember his blows nearly killing a character, each time. I had to use billy to heal the team every turn

[@marcelomcid]

The sound design in this game is awesome

[@AlphaspitzZ]

Best. Fucking RPG. Ever. And im playing Witcher 3 right now too. The story in this game is beyond remarkable, reincarnation, religion, government conspiracy, life and death. Not even FF7 is as good as Xenogears in my opinion (which by the way Xenogears was supposed to be aFF7 but it was too dark)

[@SotanahtDarksol]

Nice seeing a straight-forward play, usually boss vids for this game only showcase with over-leveled characters. I guess what I'm saying is thanks?

[@SonofTiamat]

Id is essentially a glam-metal version of Fei.

[@sharilshahed6106]

more like an angry SSG Fei

[@Lil.Grandpa]

@@sharilshahed6106 Looks more SSJ4 in some respects.

[@MoonlightDusk]

Glam metal? Yuck and inaccurate.

[@wisdomsparkproductions7916]

I miss when square was good

[@tailsddr]

20 years ago is probably when you quit playing?

[@hadidimer121]

with billy is easier

[@BroBercules]

"Make disc 2 great with no funding, plz." -Square corporate "But..mah funding.." -Head designer

[@sushiknight7013]

What i like about this fight is that even when id is at low hp he doesn't look like he's tired at all unlike every other boss when you get them to low hp, hell even grahf at the end of disc one he was on his knees for a moment when you beat him but not id. Id not changing animations made it feel like he was just toying with you

[@WeTheWounded]

All times I've played this game, and did this fight with Id, that is the first time I've seen him attack Elly.

[@darkswildstyle]

really?!?!

[@WeTheWounded]

Yeah, I always assumed it was like the Grahf fights.

[@TonyBMan]

I can't remember if Id ever attacked Elly in my party...been too long, gotta playthru again. Damn, not only did he attack her, but he KO'd her and launched her like 20 feet backwards outta the fight.

[@sephjuco8686]

I remember fighting this boss back when I was like grade 2 or 3. I lost like 5 times to this enemy but never regretted it. Because Id was so awesome.

[@Tekillyah]

Get rekt snotty Juco.

[@Kiddo_X]

Id beat my ass and I took it like a G

[@CPT85]

When I first fought Id, I thought, "Oh shit! There's no way I can beat this guy! It's gonna take more than everything I have!!!" But then when I beat him, I was like, "...Okay. 😠 That wasn't as hard as I *THOUGHT* it'd be." lol

[@Lil.Grandpa]

Even inside your gears, this should've been an unwinnable fight at this point in the game. That said, he was a tough bastard to beat.

[@magno172]

jesus. after you win u still hear that epic music ...

[@AvousLP]

I remember the first time I did this fight I was terrified I was about to lose my three favorite characters.

[@chrisbary]

Final Boss is hard as #$%@ replaying this game for the 3rd time right now its so good i just killed redrum

[@militaryuniformprincess]

Ids power is so great, he is able to create black holes and singularities. At this level you can change reality.

[@TonyBMan]

Still the fucking coolest.

[@omnivirus]

EASY ASS fight nothing unknown about that en countering Id

[@Kiddo_X]

Every run through of this game, Bart is in my party (the whole game)...that whipping sound when he attacks is just too damn funny now! Like, "Id! You gone get this whippin today!!!😂😂😂

[@renegadeofunk]

Dat 60 fps. Great video

[@universetrigger2316]

HAH !! and JOJO fans think Dio is menacing , wait till they experience " Id "

[@Hikaru0kamiki]

Im a jojo but fighting id was the biggest oh shit moment of my life

[@numbered_sounds]

the music is epic

[@runspenstinski]

how come id and graft never face each other

[@benjiman7454]

I remember in like 05/06... one of those years, I went to game stop- then game crazy and asked if they had this game and the guy told me that he had to order it because it was black listed... coincidentally, he was able to get it for me. If imagine now it's be damn near if not entirely impossible to. Wished they'd either make a sequel or at least remaster it if not pull a FFVII and remake. Either 3 options would do. One of the greatest games EVER!

[@jonathandiosa5739]

Benji Man! Because they are making FF7 i feel its less likely we would see this happen anytime soon

[@Catzillator]

ofcourse his attack resemble ..."him"

[@TCGIBS]

Ocean dub dbz Vegeta voice would be great voicing him

[@Its_an_Eze]

I loved trhis game and I have as both a ROM and the actual two part game itself for the PS. Though its funny cause I thought about this for years every time I watched this battle. Bart, Citan, and the rest have seen Fei fight obviously. They know his techniques like what you see in the vid ( Raijin, Senretsu, Hoten). And yet you'd think they put and two together with the fact that WEltall ID looks a lot like Weltall normal. Well Citan probably knew but the others still though lol ah well a definite classic and a loved game, If they remade this especially with the PS4 graphics I swear I'd buy this in a heartbeat....again lol

[@junior752352]

David Thomas Citan knew since the beginning about Fei...*SPOILERS* Since he was sent by Emperor Cain to monitor if Id would bea a threat in the future or not

[@G0NZ0STaR]

David Thomas If not a remake then a Director's Cut version with the completed 2nd disk's dungeons, omnigears, etc! :D

[@TonyBMan]

David Thomas really tho, the time has passed....would you REALLY want modern day Squenix to touch this gem? They'd weeb it up no doubt, and it'd be FUBAR. No religious undertones, changed names, places, dialogue, storyline, etc....fuck no.

[@Its_an_Eze]

TonyBMan Unfortunately this is a strong possibility. The same great minds behind this been left after the game was done. Though it was supposed to be much more to it but it was a matter of time deadlines or something that made the second part seem a bit rushed and w/o some other parts to it ( battles, omnigears, etc.)

[@TonyBMan]

David Thomas they were forced to reallocate their resources into FFVIII......and I thoroughly enjoy FFVIII, but to know it came at the price of a full-powered Xenogears.........i cri everti3m

[@KennyVo120]

SODIUM, SODIUM, SODIUM, SHAQ, DOLLAH

[@Keollyn]

Some people are saying this fight is easy, but this is just based on luck. Sometimes the AI spams basic crap (I've had a couple of fights were I never experienced his deathblows), other times he goes ham and does 2:33 almost religiously. If he gets into those back to back spamming of deathblows, this fight is tough. Too bad his AI is so random in this fight.

[@solblackguy]

Definitely RNG dependent. I was able to breeze through this fight, but the infamous fight against Miang took me weeks. I can still remember the cutscene between both battles.

[@Dhalin]

Billy really really REALLY helps in this fight with his AoE heal. Not sure what prompted you to bring Elly of all people... she's only good in her gear, same as Maria. Rico is too slow, so Citan/Bart/Billy is the only decent group to do this with.

[@AlphaspitzZ]

I miss this damn game...

[@JoseDiaz12]

FF7 was truly a generational game that touched a lot of people’s core memories and influenced RPGs moving forward. However, I’d argue, for the overall story and madness that was Xenogears, while I doubt as many ppl played it as FF7, those that did were forever changed by it. I include myself in that category and would feel blessed if the community ever received a full remake like FF7 and that flushed out the story that everyone was hoping for in Disc 2. The themes and ideas presented by the game are complex at times, but it’s a story full of characters that you’d find in some masterpiece of literature. If you played Xenogears, you just know. It’s easier to just hand someone the controller and order them food than to explain why it was worth playing back in the day.

[@cn8299]

The sound design for this game is intense... After playing FF7:Rebirth, I'm just imagining a remake of Xenogears and it makes my head spin with the possibilities..

[@Dinosaur_Doggo]

Citan was way too strong as a character to not being used. Look at the HP difference between him and the other losers, it’s ridiculous. He also dealt most damages, oh and guess what? He heals too? No way in hell.

[@0megazeero]

Am I the only person here who knew Id was Fei since the episode in the desert?

[@neko_bold6393]

Who is this guy? Why he fight like fei? why his red gear look pretty similar with welltall? So many question, and the answer actually simple if I pay attention to the cutscenes. But I keep on denying it until the truth reveal itself

[@Ssj7Crono]

Very tough battle for me. I have the same party, Citan/Elly/Bart, on levels 48, 47 and 46. And I still can't beat this boss yet.

[@G0NZ0STaR]

I used to think Id was Wiseguy. ;)

[@hextarvigar6905]

Fei Fong Wong has a monster living inside of him. And that monster is himself.

[@markasscop]

I always wonder, aren't they underground? b/c if so then where's that light source in the background coming from that makes it look like sunset

[@browningcq]

Yeesh Id’s attack speed is like 3x the entire party

[@lostnight9600]

This theme adds so much to the fight....

[@85sparrowhawk]

Very well played.

[@Tterraphorm]

Remake is needed, last of us quality

[@randymorris3417]

The music...

[@fernandollanos4756]

This is the piece of game that all the people deserve, ciberpunk mix with elden ring and of course mass effect, team.

[@TheMacGuy1010]

No joke hardest boss in the game for me took me about a month to find out but I did beat the entire game

[@darkswildstyle]

took you a month to beat id??!

[@TheMacGuy1010]

darkswildstyle yup my characters didn't have high levels so it was frustrating trying to figure out how to beat him

[@darkswildstyle]

i hear yah, what iv learned about this game is training and power is everything, sometimes you gotta take a break from the story and just wander and pick fights to raise your DB's and levels,

[@TheMacGuy1010]

darkswildstyle That's true though at least I finished the game while not having to rage quit on some parts:D

[@TonyBMan]

darkswildstyle don't work too hard though. All that matters in the end are the stats of your Gears. But why the hell wouldn't you wanna max out your dudes? The combat in this game is fun as shit.

[@azurestrike6551]

I remember this fight. I always remembered thinking bro where's fei when you need him!? Since their fighting styles were so similar it would have been cool to see them fight each other

[@michaelcarnevale103]

Cool fight. If you have been fighting in most random encounters and have your death blows leveled up it's not that hard though. When I was a kid I had some trouble with this, but I recently replayed as an adult and didn't escape from any random encounters and it was cake.

[@ryanfury1361]

I was never able to finish this game but I was just wondering how fei and ID can be at the same place at the same time?

[@ScorpionVermelho3134]

Precisamos de um remake desse jogo URGENTE!

[@Yggralith467]

I'm gonna have to start over from the very beginning aren't I? I can't beat this fight, let alone the random enemies that show up in the area.

[@alexeylozenko6093]

The game Xenogears is the best game of all time.

[@richyleee3569]

how do you those deathblows the triangle square x ones

[@terenceallen6541]

3:21 Let me show you the worth of your soul reflected.

[@coreyfreeman4053]

Id is God....sephiroth pays homage

[@Kiddo_X]

Sephiroth: "Good to see you, Id."

[@cortez007]

Epic fight

[@jeandannemann]

Legendary

[@Zhaturianvisionz]

blows are hard af lol

[@davetaylor9300]

This game is sitting on my hard drive. xD, I think it's time to play it again. It's been 11 years haha. I forgot it (only played it once lost my disc1 after finishing the game). I still consider it the best RPG ever made :)

[@MannyKunV]

yah know ive been wondering, what was wiseman's gear called and where did it come from?

[@Its_an_Eze]

Wiseman's gear doesn't necessarily have a name per se but it is the same as alpha/original weltall.

[@knightblade87x]

One thing I never got to appreciate was how many super strong characters there were - ID, Wiseman, Grahf, made the team all look like small fry among titans which is a very realistic feeling to have. Kudos to the script.

[@rustyjones7908]

Made it all the more satisfying when you hand them their own ass at the end. Like you've earned your power.

[@belldrop7365]

This damn boss fight made me quit this game my first run through it two decades ago. Couple of months later, I came back, overleveled, chuck full of healing items, and spamming debuffs on him.

[@EvilPanda187]

Kiai v. Aiki. Id = Oneness. Thus, the “shadow shout.” Hmph! 😤 = 🥷🏾 “full intention” now true skill is…