XK - A800 - Calm Evening Flight Revisit

[@josipvrandecic2472]

Hi Brian , What I like with you is that when you fly simple, complicated, large, costly ,cheap or small models ...you always give yourself hundred percent. Thanks and Cheers.

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Thanks Josip! I'm glad you can tell :) I want some more spendy ones right now, but we're kinda burning through cash very fast with the new acreage...it's bad enough moving into a new house, but the 10 acres has lots of need too, we're learning - but we still LOVE it ;)

[@obeymelissa584]

Packing tape will help with wing flex without compromising flight and weight

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Good idea.

[@zubuxstein]

Loving the camera resolution and saturation, what a beautiful day to just go walking, running, and you do have lots of land for that... not even one car I hear, nights must hear crickets from miles ja ja... *I have one glider, Phoenix 2000 V1 (no silly useless wheel), and a Bixler 2, more than enough for my glider thermal fix.

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

We hear all sorts of stuff at night ;) Crickets, Frogs, Waterfalls...then there's the lighting bugs, it's AMAZING...there's gotta be thousands of them. They just go crazy at the end of the driveway, and it's beautiful!!! I can't quite get it on camera, which is a huge bummer :(

[@crashrr2993]

Hey, Brian, here’s a tip to share with your subs. The battery life on my A800 started getting shorter and shorter. I just blamed my charger. Turns out it was a short-circuit in the aileron servo, which literally melted the back of it - where I couldn’t see it. I only discovered this when I burnt myself on the wire!

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

WOW!!! That's no good!!!

[@crashrr2993]

Brian Phillips I couldn’t understand why I was getting so bad at aileron flying! Anyway, I see you have one or two minis... 😂, so if you notice a short battery life, check the wires and servos for overheating. Meantime, I am on the home-straight covering a 1948 KK Invader to which I’ve added a small motor and r/c wingerons! Thanks for all your videos.

[@crashrr2993]

I just bought one, got it in the air, today. Seems better with the battery way back, oh, and if you look at the root of the folding prop, you’ll see a moulding tag, which catches on the spinner. I trimmed this and lubed the props with graphite powder, which makes it an awesome wee glider. Can’t wait to slope it in a breeze.

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Did you get the prop to fold???

[@crashrr2993]

Brian Phillips Yes, and no... it’s not yet completely free, but if I go into a glide from full power, the wind will fold it. Here’s a question... I can buy the electronics for this airplane on Banggood for £24, so I’m thinking of installing them in a Hurricane that I built a few years back. But how do I bind the new Rx with the original Tx? In other words, can I fly both airplanes with the same transmitter? Thanks, Brian.

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

YES. You just don't turn them both on at the same time. Same semi-automatic binding procedure. It will basically happen on it's own. You can use these transmitters with virtually any other XK plane/heli with similar channels....but don't take my word for it, just try it out ;)

[@toddedson5782]

I had one of these as well Brian and also had a lot of fun with it.

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Glad you enjoyed it! (P.S. Just got your comment, from 3 months ago! Sorry for my slow reply!!!)

[@chrisrc845]

Hi Brian great advise for people just getting in to the hobby.. takes me back to my first plane It was a parkzone umx j3 cub rtf .....I’m off to a large model aircraft show at Royal airforce Cosford this weekend Just as a spectator ..don’t have the kind of money those guys have but then just as you’ve demonstrated you don’t need to to get started in the hobby and to have fun..thank you for the video best wishes

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Thanks Chris! I'm glad you "get it"! Enjoy the airshow! Keep a drool rag handy ;)

[@gbro8822]

Thank you

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

You're welcome :) (...for what though???)

[@gbro8822]

@@BrianPhillipsRC Lol Just for taking your time posting your videos. After 5 knee operations and 2 total replacements all on the same knee, I just don't get to fly like I would like to. I do enjoy watching your videos, thank you and your wife for all that you do for us. Greg from northern Indiana.

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

You're welcome G Bro - Glad I can give you some encouragement!!! More coming soon ;)

[@biffoswilly]

Also there should be some carbon strips in the ailerons as they flex badly

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

I doubt they could fit that at this price point...but a small toothpick and some CA might do the trick...

[@allenmoore9848]

Hey Brian its a very dainty little flyer. I would be tempted to use the motor only on launch, then glide around. It almost could be a miniature Phoenix 2000. We are right into our winter with wind and rain making it hard to go flying. All the best from the land down under.

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

I thought the same thing, but then with the prop tractoring all the time, you kinda have to stay on the throttle, or she'll "break" herself to the ground, and the elevator is so small, you will lose elevator authority and stall into the nose, rather than landing - I only say it because it's happened about every other flight ;( Other than this issue, which is kinda a big one, it's a great, fun little plane - And yes, it DOES most definitely look like the Phoenix, but it doesn't perform anything like it :(.... too bad, since the Phoenix, in all the sizes, has been phenomenal!!!

[@stewjade]

Good to see you back flying Brian. I'm loving the hell out of my new Conscendo Advanced but sadly I have lost my old faithful modded Conscendo S. Went into very tall reeds and swampy water at the end of our club runway. We kinda know where it is but can't find it but will keep searching. Suspected the crappy clevis on the elevator became disconnected. Same thing happened on my new one but I saved it. Slack pre flight check ... doh!

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

That's so sad!!! (P.S. Just got your comment, from 3 months ago! Sorry for my slow reply!!!)

[@keithshillbillyrcn849]

Hello, awesome plane flys very well. Thank you for your video keep flying you guys.

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Will do, thanks!!

[@davidrivero7943]

Bind to an X6 for better feel . Lil X100 3D brought that X4 tx & diff was night & day. Powered Gliders are so cool .

[@biffoswilly]

Totally agree -- this plane is robust I have broken the nose off it a couple times hitting tree branches as the controls I feel are a bit hit and miss - not too trim able responsive rolling right, but not so on the left on my model! But its been very repairable when crashed, the nose always glues back on ok and the motor seems tough enough although brush less would have been a better option as you say - I cant put my finger on it really but its not been my best flying experience I have ever had with micro planes either, I feel slightly 'out of control' when flying it. And only one battery is a bum - two should be a minimum as fly times fall off beyond 12 mins.

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Yep. The Jumper makes a BIG improvement over the stock Tx. You might try an Open Tx transmitter to see if you enjoy the performance a bit more...but I've learned with some planes, they just "are what they are" and not worth investing too much time. This is more true as I build up the hording supplies - LOL!!!.

[@williesforeal9979]

As always , great video Brian !!-

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Thanks!!!

[@upperechelon3456]

Great little video Brian. I bought this plane to add to my hanger because it was so cheap. Thinking about adding a little brush-less power plant to this just for shits and giggles.

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

I think it would be amazing with a Lemon-Rx receiver, but I don't want to spend too much time on this one. I want to take it sloping somewhere though, and see how it performs. I need to try a better transmitter, then I may be able to get rid of some of the horrific "assists" that they build into these little beauties

[@birdwing98]

Here is a great video about converting XK A600 to brushless. I believe both A600 and A800 use the N60 motor. kzbin.info/www/bejne/a5y4f5qrdqxortk

[@rustyblades145]

Keep keeping it off the ground bro, love your work.

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Thanks Rusty!

[@adriankelly1744]

Mate great fun aircraft brought that as my first plane now fly a H-King Super Kinetic Sport Glider now go try that.... at 66years old its a blast...love your video's Regards from Australia

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Thanks Adrian! So many planes, so much fun!!!

[@Georgewrigley]

Great flag buddy. Listen to that wind! Cheers Brian ✈️😊👍

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Thanks ;)

[@ludwigvanzappa9548]

The bricks for those sell for 20$ on Banggood ( $20 Canadian) ... That's very cheap so I bought a couple to make my own gliders . I'm working on one right now .

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Very cool! I wish I could do breaking on a Brushed motor.... then this A800 would work 100 times better.

[@ludwigvanzappa9548]

@@BrianPhillipsRC Totally agree , there must be a way to put an elastic to close that prop . Just enough to hold it closed but not enough when throttling up . I will make test for that very soon . If I come up with something good , I will let you know .

[@joeg986]

I have mine setup on the Jumper T8sg. Have not been able to do the maiden yet.

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

That's the Transmitter I'm trying to get right now ;)

[@joeg986]

@@BrianPhillipsRC If you get one, channel eight is the switch that will toggle 3g and 6g. Took me a while to figure that out. I also installed lipo battery pack. They work much better with the lipos.

[@simpo72]

Get yourself a jumper tx , I have my XK A800 bound to a jumper t12 tx & it's great !

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Coming in the mail ;) I will share soon!!! Can't wait to get rid of these POS controllers! ...and TURN OFF THE 6G BUT, I need your help... Which one???? Multi Protocol Device (Do I need this with each of the transmitters???) - usa.banggood.com/custlink/3DmGH2qMGh This one is beige - usa.banggood.com/custlink/333D5qkkmb This one is yellow - usa.banggood.com/custlink/mKmDHk2U3l This one is grey (I think I want THIS one, right?!?!) - usa.banggood.com/custlink/3mDvFUUqGq Do you know the differences? Seems to be that the Beige one has up to 18 channels? Does the Grey one have only 12 channels? I'm a bit confused by the poor Chinese documentation, as usual.

[@grumpyjohntxredneckrc6346]

Hey Brian, Nice Lil' One... Thanks

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Thanks John!

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Hey John, Almost forgot...I acquired a 90 watt solar power system, less the battery. Need to set it up to pump some water so I can water the grass for free :)

[@grumpyjohntxredneckrc6346]

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[@fcass]

Cool, thanks. And I was thinking, for the prop still spinning and ruining the clean air, just put a toothpick (or 3D print a beautiful piece hehheh) sticking out a little behind the prop. Not sure if this would work or not, might want to use zip tie material. The idea being that when the prop starts folding back it will rub against that and stop, until you apply power (in which case it may be in the way unless you angle it in a clever way?). I used to fly fixed wings in the 90's and do gremlin combat. Just starting to build a few foamboard experiments again now and your channel is perfect.

[@fcass]

Or did you mean it stops but doesn't fold up?

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

I want it to fold, but when it's spinning, it will stay out almost into perpituity ;( P.S. Sorry for the slow reply - KZbin glitch, I guess....JUST got the notification!!!

[@TheSheepDogPatriot1776]

Just bought 1 for my 5yo and I to enjoy $70 bucks., just got it in the mail today together and charged, ready for school to get out next door and then we are in the field for our maiden voyage.

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

NICE!!! Good luck guys!!!

[@TheSheepDogPatriot1776]

@@BrianPhillipsRC And strong wind and nose dive, broke front fuelsalage and hot glued it.

[@grantlouis2688]

You're back... :) Welcome... :)

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Thanks Grant! When we get things settled, it's gonna be a mad house of unboxing, build, mod, and flight videos!!! I'm excited, but it's crazy that I feel pressure to get footage out...LOL...this is supposed to be fun, and it is, but there's so much happening - WHY DOES IT ALL HAVE TO HAPPEN AT THE SAME TIME?!!?! ;) P.S. You saw the plane RaymondK gave me, right?

[@grantlouis2688]

@@BrianPhillipsRC Yes I did.. What are you going to do with it? :)

[@fcass]

You started to say, for a better RTF get … then you kind of interrupted yourself. Please which one do you recommend? I was just about to hit buy on this one as I want to get one for my quadriplegic roommate who is just getting into the hobby. $64 right now is a good deal. Something a little bigger would be better for him though, it gets windy in Florida. Thanks if you get a chance to answer my questions.

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

I'm so sorry for the crazy slow reply....JUST saw your question - Thanks KZbin!!! I assume you already bought, but if not... Sport Cub S UMX RTF - amzn.to/2CA3npq

[@todd92371]

Brian, Have you ever tried the UMX Radian glider? These look awesome.

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

no, sorry AT Hiker... I did have an ASK21, which I used a Radio Motor for.

[@biffoswilly]

Rudder gets you out of trouble when the ailerons are 'sulking'

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

yeah, but all the surfaces are too small for a sluggish plane. She's gotta get some speed up to move the air across the surfaces, and the prop prevents getting to this speed. Breaking would fix this issue ;)

[@biffoswilly]

I bought this plane, but I have to say the model I have is not the most responsive, and at times unpredictable--its like a wallowing flier -- its better taken up to height and glide down. The Right roll on my model is very limited. The mixes they put in which are not adjustable so not ideal for me, so power on and you get UP elevator mixed in so to land I knock off the throttle. 7/10 for me.

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

I wasn't a huge fan of this plane. It's one of the gliders I have that I can say, I don't like. I WANTED so much more, but it's not a BAD plane. I just want a brushless motor with breaking so the prop folds and this plane would be GREAT!

[@MALNTV]

Okay...i get it! Your fingers get sensitive when yanking on it...the transmitter that is. It’s a fun little fix wing for $50. Go ahead and do a Brian Phillip’s and make it more awesomer. Is this even a word?

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

yes, after yanking on it!

[@snauzze7007]

Between the xk a800 and ranger 600 ….which did you like better? And does the ranger 600 perform just like the sky king ? Love your videos but trying to decide on a cheap rc glider until I can get the easy trainer

[@matthewmann8951]

Mine flew itself right into the dirt, and that was the end of motor, oh yeah and it broke the propeller. And I wasn't yanking on it either. Lol. Thanks

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

NO!!!!! (P.S. Just got your comment, from 3 months ago! Sorry for my slow reply!!!)

[@attilakis2360]

Damn, shes a beauty...

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

she's pretty, just wish the motor was brushless so we could have BREAKING, something totally necessary for a folding prop style sailplane.

[@obeymelissa584]

If can CAREFULLY remove the prop blades and VERY SLIGHTLY make the inner prop pins bigger the prop will fold faster

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Centripetal Force will keep them out, overwhelming the ability to push back

[@obeymelissa584]

I never had that problem with mine and mine when power cut the motor stopped right away and I did all I said and have flown mine for 1.5 yrs now with no problems......I use to be a drone tester for the USAF 14 yrs ago and was HONORABLY DISCHARGED after suffering a sever head trauma from a signal failure during a test flight and was almost hit by the surveillance drone I was testing.....2yrs ago I finally was comfortable to fly rc planes again after a 10 yr recovery

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Holy cow! that's crazy!!! Glad you're getting back in the swing of things. Thank you for your service to our country!

[@fherny77]

Hello good video. I have a question I want to start in the hobby of planes but I want to know how to calculate the distance I have to fly it away for example in drones with GPS it tells you when you are flying far away and lose signal. In this airplanes how can you know the distance you can fly it

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

If you can't see it anymore, you've flown too far....or when you see the plane changing it's behavior. This plane it going to have a shorter range than a "Full range" transmitter, but it's still got ample range for most people with good vision. Keep it in sight, and you'll be okay, unless something is damaged.

[@JeffsCustomRC]

Great video Brian, thanks for all you do for this hobby 👊🏼👊🏼👊🏼

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Thanks Jeff! (P.S. Just got your comment, from 3 months ago! Sorry for my slow reply!!!)

[@taurushipointenthusiast1306]

I love the foamy`s resilience and glue fixes XK Line if ya have flown Copters one is familiar with XK it is also WL Toys well like GM is to Chevy. Well I am one of those that likes to fly I gotta go cheap, $67 is cheap enough. Ya pulled a new sub I have seen a few of yours today having the intelligence to reshoot an awesome glider from a low end provider caught my eye.. Other channels should revisit the no fault of user or procuct, none have and never will. You admitted Fault was not yours or the products (windy) that is class. XK Wl Toys and Spectrum should respect that. I do

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Glad you see this. We show it how we found it. I've crashed brand new items, and had to tear apart transmitters and fix them in the unboxing...most would not share this. If it's crap, I share what it takes to make it fly, unless I feel it's totally unredeemable, then I usually omit those videos (we had one this weekend that might NOT make it off the "cutting room floor") Thanks for being here with us!

[@dannyhelton6363]

I don’t recommend fixing your plane by hitting your camera person. You may need her in the future. Only you Brian. LOL love your side comments! See ya soon.

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Good point Danny!!! (Just got your comment (from 3 months ago!!!) Sorry)

[@taurushipointenthusiast1306]

0:43 Ya mention fingers dangling power supply to remote and plane.....I tell ya V913 taught me well deserved if I was going to be stupid I better be tough lesson....

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Lucky it wasn't the Carbon Z Cub SS 2.1m ;)

[@itayraz8550]

Hi I crashed my new Apprentice s 15E and I have no idea Tara. I hope you see this and give me some advice the whole tail snapped off and the wings have a huge tear in them hope you see this love your videos

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

You'll have to get some bamboo skewers, or Carbon Fiber strips and glue her back together! It's a lot of work, but you can fix it. I crashed my apprentice into my neighbors roof, the FIRST DAY I HAD HER!!! Super annoying. I initiated SAFE with the plane turned upside down, and this caused the OLD style SAFE Rx to think that was the "home position" to return to...so when I flipped the SAFE switch, it rolled over into an unrecoverable manuever, and by the time I realized the stupidity of what I had done, she was squished into my neighbors roof...then he cam out and said, "What was that!??!?!"...good thing my old neighbor and I are on good terms ;)

[@Mark-Dibble]

Planes don’t have to look pretty to fly great. Reinforced packing tape has helped me out many times. Good luck!

[@gregkienle3378]

Strip it and get a Phoenix 2000!

[@zubuxstein]

I see it! Give it a nice warm bath to the foam parts to recover its memory. It can be fixed; have done it on a few planes club members throw in the trash and I end up fixing them in a weekend. *warm bath, hot glue, bamboo or HK carbon pieces, light filler sold at Dollar Tree, some 2X can spray and back to the field.

[@keithwhisman]

I know some people suggest using bambo skewers but really foam airplanes are made up of little foam balls all glued together so when you tear the foam all you need to do is glue it back together with foam safe glue and it’ll be as good as new. My foamies that I’ve crashed all I did was glue the foam back together. Balsa models are a lot different but foam models are so damn forgiving and easily repaired even when they look totaled you’ll be surprised what you can do with glue and patience.

[@RCFlyBy911]

Hello B & filming wife .. LOL.. I must ask , what in the wide world of sports is going on here. Now with all this open land,, we fly smaller airplanes ? LOL.. and I have the same with all the trillions of Lightning Bugs ! Also have tried to film with no avail. Truly an amazing sight.

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Thanks ;)

[@nicksantitoro]

Couldn’t you brake the motor the same way it works in a brushed rc car? They slow down when you push the throttle the other way, I’m not sure how it works, but they could probably do the same thing for planes.

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Yes, but this ESC (electronic speed controller) is for a BRUSHED motor, and not a brushless ESC. With a Brushless Motor and ESC, you can turn on BREAKING, which will stop cycling the change in state from one set of electromagnets to the next set, as it typical to spin the motor, thus HOLDING the bel housing still. This will "Break" the prop, and then the blades will simply push back. The problem with a BRUSHED MOTOR, is that they're no feedback, so you could hypothetically make the motor RUN backwards, but you wouldn't have very good control over it...and you'd have a prop that wanted to spin backward with the throttle stick all the way down. This would be potentially unsafe, and definitely too advanced for a cheapy plane. What they need to do is get a brushless motor and ESC in there and turn on the breaking. This is very common on rc aircraft.

[@nicksantitoro]

Thanks for the response. I also think heat would be a big issue with the foam. I think how braking works in a brushed motor is that the esc sends reverse pulses to the motor to slow it down. This would work in the plane as well, but I assume the motor could get quite hot while doing this and it might melt the foam. I think a cool modification would be a spring loaded prop. I’ve seen them on some of these glider planes. After you let off the throttle the blades would slow down and fold to the sides of the nose, instead of just spinning free for a while like this one does.

[@Wings_of_foam]

Hey Brian, when I only use the rudder the aileron turns slightly. Is that normal?

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Rudder and Ailerons are separate...not sure why they're moving together at all.

[@Wings_of_foam]

Ok. I thought I connected it wrong. Thanks for the help dude!@@BrianPhillipsRC

[@Lima-gw4dd]

Vai longe a distacia?

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Sorry, your comment didn't translate well :( Italian, right??? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Spiacenti, il tuo commento non è stato tradotto bene :( italiano, giusto ???

[@goriverman]

Do you have any double wingers you can fly

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

I don't have any bi-planes (yet). I have one I want to get though...

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Wait!!!! I do have one bi-plane, but it's not flying at the moment....

[@wbuttry1]

looks tail heavy could be wrong the tail just seems to be hanging down

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Could be... This plane is not the best flying either....the prop REALLY needs to have breaking, but with brushed motor, that's not really an option ;(

[@markcourtney7251]

You are very, very good, but a bit like Douglas Bader Second World War ace pilot,amazing in the air but not so good on the landings! Way better than I could do though, love your videos!, keep um coming.

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

I'm always learning.

[@obeymelissa584]

It only lasts that long with almost if not fully powered

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Based on what?

[@obeymelissa584]

If have enough wind over the wings for lift by being slightly nose heavy to cut thru the air you won't need to power it all the time is all i am saying and i learned that from my dad after a head injury 10 yrs ago and he was a pilot

[@mariechristelleaugustine2359]

I would like to buy the same flight but the problem on the site that I want to buy is not the same brand it is from the amewi brand (3d climber) is it a good choice to buy it

[@seba2038]

I have a problem, I setup the plane, but after I launch it , I noticed it loose signal with RC in distance of 10m and it fell down, what could be wrong? It is same even on the ground, when I move 10m away there is not signal to reach the plane.

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Sorry, not sure how to tell you to fix it, other than try the Tx on another plane, or another plane on that Tx, but since it's a RTF (Ready to Fly) that would mean you would have to have two of the same, or similar planes... I'm real sorry you're having issues seba!

[@TheRealBigHow]

Do you fly 3D planes?

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Not so much. I do some 3D flying, but don't get into it too much. (P.S. Just got your comment, from 3 months ago! Sorry for my slow reply!!!)

[@AD-ho8pb]

A glider is not meant to go that fast...

[@BrianPhillipsRC]

Who says????

[@AD-ho8pb]

@@BrianPhillipsRC Says the wings bending :-) But anyways, I don't want to be a thief of joy :-) It's just sometimes nice to look at a more 'scaled' flight.

[@laurenth7187]

Ok, but this is not a "glider". it's like a regular plane.