Was Gojo's Ending Bad?

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@destinitaylor4360
@destinitaylor4360 11 ай бұрын
I’m not gonna lie, when I first read it I did think it was bad. I was pissed off too lmao. But I re read the last five chapters after I cooled off and I changed my mind. I won’t say I think it was the best but I definitely understand why it happened the way it did and why it was so sudden. Especially since it’s in Sukuna’s POV and the characters around him. So to them, it was THAT sudden 😭 that’s just how I rationalized it with myself
@kniveskunn
@kniveskunn 11 ай бұрын
It's bad
@solardxgamer1692
@solardxgamer1692 11 ай бұрын
Literally all i wanted was a final clash between them with sukuna trying again and again to extend the range of his dismantle to reach gojo. Instead of him supposedly succeeding on his first try?(idk cause it was offscreened)
@leonaise7546
@leonaise7546 11 ай бұрын
I like you. You’re an intelligent person. Waiting for your emotions to cool off & look at the fight again but from a more objective lense. If only most Gojo fans were like you
@leonaise7546
@leonaise7546 11 ай бұрын
@@kniveskunn Thanks for your very helpful input, close minded individual
@leonaise7546
@leonaise7546 11 ай бұрын
@@solardxgamer1692 Sukuna is confirmed to be a prodigy like Gojo. He can perform anything he see with just 1 look at it. So it’s not a stretch for Sukuna to successfully pull off the slash immediately as he himself could THOROUGHLY explain the concept behind the slash to us
@itsmeruka
@itsmeruka 11 ай бұрын
We all knew Gojo was destined to die in this fight. The problema the community had was with the way Gege handled this. It left a bitter taste in our mouths.
@kenfern2259
@kenfern2259 11 ай бұрын
if gojo win the fight it wouldnt be interesting bc he can just 1 shot the rest of the villians
@MyDoggiesABully
@MyDoggiesABully 11 ай бұрын
@@kenfern2259Did you not read their comment? They don’t care if Gojo lost. Try reading.
@MyDoggiesABully
@MyDoggiesABully 11 ай бұрын
@@kenfern2259Also, Sukuna can do the same and has been. Your point?
@itsmeruka
@itsmeruka 11 ай бұрын
@@kenfern2259I agree He had to die for the plot to develop further. But did it have to be like this? Give your most beloved character a proper death.
@khalilwilson2586
@khalilwilson2586 11 ай бұрын
@@MyDoggiesABullyI hate when people say gojo coudl just one shot the villains because so can sukuna. The only reason he’s not is because he wants to have fun. And losing because you want to have fun gotta be the worst ways to lose in manga. I believe Gojo and sukuna should’ve killed each other and had the rest of the gang jump Kenjaku and uraume
@Void_Creature4
@Void_Creature4 11 ай бұрын
The airport scene completely assassinated Gojo's character tho
@prod.a.b.i.l1930
@prod.a.b.i.l1930 11 ай бұрын
Gojo dying was inevitable, that's just the truth of the matter. Sukuna was never Gojo's problem to deal with, he's Yuji's, so him dying was understandable. The problem comes with HOW Gege dealt with his final moments, Gojo saying he couldn't push Sukuna to his limits, Nanami's very wrong assertion/view of Gojo as a person and saying he only cared about fighting strong opponents, and he didn't care about people or his students when that was the biggest lie in the series. Remember that Gojo has always loved and cared for his students, he wanted them to enjoy their youth and not be burdened by the weight of being sorcerers. Yes, Gojo wanted strong students so he wouldn't feel alone anymore, the burden that comes with being the strongest means walking a lonely road, but even still, Gojo was still the type of person who, in the grand scheme of things, would have given his life if it meant his students wouldn't have to be jujutsu sorcerers. The fact Gojo or GETO didn't refute Nanami on his point just felt like it Gege was trying to make Nanami seem like he wasn't lying. I don't even wanna mention the glazing that Gojo gave Sukuna because that honestly is just so bad cause Gojo is the last person who would praise someone, infact it makes him dying worse cause it seemed like Gojo died without regrets when he left his adoptive son trapped in the body of the man who killed him, he left his students to deal with 2 people who are way to dangerous for them to handle and he never got a chance to console and talk to Yuji about all the trauma he experienced just to get him out the prison relm. I won't judge you or anyone who likes the conclusion of the fight, but it really feels like Gege really dropped the ball on this one.
@RennHans
@RennHans 11 ай бұрын
The thing is Gojo did die without regrets. Not because he did everything he wanted to do but because he trusted his students to save megumi. The major theme of jujutsu kaisen, letting go of your regrets and letting the younger generation take up your mantle
@bobjones9385
@bobjones9385 11 ай бұрын
​@@RennHanshonestly that's one of my favorite things about the deaths in Jujutsu Kaisen, everyone is at peace in the end and accepts it, it might not be the outcome they wanted but it's the outcome regardless
@mostlyfacts82
@mostlyfacts82 11 ай бұрын
fr. (10 hour yap session comming btw) the thing is we know that sukuna cant just use the slash whenever he wants/ instantly even if he could gojo would know he would use an attack. gojo knows sukuna wasnt using his full moveset as itadori wouldve seen the fire there would be no reason for gojo to stay still as he said he knew sukuna was holding back the entire time. if you know your fighting someone who is way stronger than you and is badly injured are you going to try and dodge the attack or trust your technique against the unknown technique. the adaptation wasnt just a counter to infinity it was a power boost for sukuna's slashes. if it was just a counter to infinity gojo wouldnt have died in one shot as its presumed as while gojo was getting cut in the domain without setting up any defenses gojo was tanking slashes. unless sukkuna stacked a whole lotta slashes gojo wouldnt have died in an instant if each dimension slash was the same as the ones in his domain. it couldve been clarrified that mahoraga made his technique objectively better and it couldve been shown sukuna making a binging vow to insta shoot the slash. alot couldve been shown and the ending wouldve been wayyyyy better. so far the slash makes sense gojo being hit/dying by the slash doesnt. (remember this is a gojo who is way stronger than normal just cant use domain expansion) or alternatively sukuna couldve went into his heian era form and kill gojo with de. his origional form had infinite potentiol as a plot device but it was used on fricking kashimo. tldr; the slash makes sense how it hit/killed doesnt. it didnt negatively affect the plot and its obvious if gojo won the plot still would be good. it would be worse but good
@RennHans
@RennHans 11 ай бұрын
@@mostlyfacts82 I can see a number of glaring problems in your argument But I’m not getting into that right now. If Gojo won how could the ending have been satisfying? because it seems to me what would’ve happened is he would’ve just went over to kenjaku, and killed him easily and then there’s no more antagonist the merger is stopped and everyone else lives happily ever after. The entire story would probably be done by now, yuji would never have closure, hakari would never fulfill his promise to kashimo, takaba would never get his chance to shine, Would never find out whats with yujis backstory, would never see his curse Technique, Etc.
@rei_nieux6694
@rei_nieux6694 11 ай бұрын
​@@mostlyfacts82 gojo would have died in one shot because cleave adjust's itself based on the recievers cursed energy
@shepardice3775
@shepardice3775 11 ай бұрын
Yes it was bad. SImple as. Killing Gojo wasn't the issue. There were a lot of ways it could've been executed well and that Sukuna winning that fight could've made sense, but Gege chose basically the cheapest, laziest way for shock value and little else.
@justsaiyan3294
@justsaiyan3294 11 ай бұрын
It feels like the last season of GOT where the writers just went for shock value. Gege seems to be on the same path.
@jayramirez4725
@jayramirez4725 11 ай бұрын
​@@justsaiyan3294this. anyone defending his conclusion saying yuuji is the mc don't get the point. gojo's arc is the most useless shh i've seen so far. Remember when people were naming their daughters after Khaleesi or Daenerys then after the series ended felt instant regret? That's how this Gojo arc feels. Like Jaime as well wasting all that growth just to die in the rubble useless af.
@babubhaihumhe
@babubhaihumhe 11 ай бұрын
​@jayramirez4725 : He underestimated sukuna was the more appropriate thing to say rather than saying that he died in a useless way . And I still don't understand what you find useless in that fight . Well the fight was all about whether you will survive or you will die. Which character fulfills his promise before dying in jjk????? Why the hell you guys are making your own jjk in your head
@justsaiyan3294
@justsaiyan3294 11 ай бұрын
@@babubhaihumhe No one said the fight was useless. Gojo got defeated by Sukuna and his best buddy Mahoraga 😂. That was useless. Sukuna should have defeated Gojo with his own powers cuz this was supposed to be the Battle of the strongest. It seemed like Sukuna had no pride and he was just looking to kill Gojo anyway possible. What a lousy King of curses.
@babubhaihumhe
@babubhaihumhe 11 ай бұрын
@@justsaiyan3294 the shikigami are 10s technique they shikigami are still made from sukuna ce . It was 1v1 from the start. There is a person who has explained this whole thing . If I find that comment again i definitely tag you
@curryquipique6098
@curryquipique6098 11 ай бұрын
I think if Gege had Sukuna incarnated his Heian form and then cut the space with Mahoraga's model, it would have been easily understood. But in the manga it's a dying Sukuna that was about to die that killed Gojo. But then Sukuna fully incarnates against Pikachu evolving into Raichu. The pay-off for Sukuna's incarnation felt out of place. Moreover, it doesn't make sense that Gojo didn't feel Sukuna's dismantle with the 6 eyes. For me, the more entertaining sequences of event is: Purple Hollow, Gojo's about to win, Sukuna's about to die, he fully incarnates himself, use black flash on Gojo, then Sukuna understands Mahoraga's model to bypass infinity and then kill Gojo. Sukuna then recognizes that Gojo is the strongest he has ever faced. And in the afterlife, Gojo, instead of using the glizzy 9000 on Sukuna, could have said that he was so close of winning, but he had fun and he gave his best. Finally, he says that his students got it from here, or something like this. This makes more sense to me, has better pay-off both for Gojo and Sukuna and doesn't alter what Gege wanted to do. Major problem is that with this version, the fandom wouldn't go insane as much and we wouldn't get lobotomy kaisen.
@Sky_901
@Sky_901 11 ай бұрын
I only have 3 problems. Gojo glazing someone who stole his adopted sons body is just insanity, the disrespect on Gojos name in the afterlife was also crazy and lastly the power scaling is just too high I mean if the cast would have ganged up on Gojo there would have been a small chance of them winning now we're supposed to fight someone who's way stronger? Theres so much the power of friendship can do. The only way i see the cast winning is if Yuji absorbs the world curse somehow otherwise there is no way for sukuna to lose its like a bunch of lvs 1s teaming up to fight a lv99 boss.
@regularwomanizer
@regularwomanizer 11 ай бұрын
“Theres so much the power of friendship can do”😂😂😂😂😂
@blu3d3vil97
@blu3d3vil97 11 ай бұрын
Gojo glazing someone stronger isnt insane Gojo's whole goal was making multiple pple stronger than him What disrespect for gojo was there in afterlife? Gojo's power comes from hax, gojo is untouchable to the protagonists side, wuite literally Sukuna isnt Gojo doesn't have yuji be made with his own energy and specially to cage him Gojo doesn't have megumi's soul still inside to be used as a plot point Gojo wouldn't be literally desintegrated by angel's technique
@flappyflap2693
@flappyflap2693 11 ай бұрын
@@blu3d3vil97 they made him a battle junkie and made gojo glaze and respect someone who just runs around killing people *for fun* when did gojo look for battles?? *The whole reason why yuji and yuta are alive is because he has compassion* his whole goal was to be free from the solitary being the strongest gives you *WDYM "Gojo's whole goal was making multiple people stronger than him" YOU'RE LITERALLY JUST SUMMING IT UP INTO SOMETHING SMALLER*
@blu3d3vil97
@blu3d3vil97 11 ай бұрын
@flappyflap2693 the whole reason yuta and yuji are alive is because gojo saw their potential power... Gojo glazes yuji yuta hakari and megumi on solely "they may reach me" but having respect for someone that actually is on his level is insane huh Gojo's whole compassion comes from him wanting back the feeling he had when geto was alongside him as "strongest" Reminder gojo was fully willing to butcher a group of civilians if geto said so He is also overconfident in his students so he doesn't worry that much about them like in shibuiya(in my opinion is stupid of him but hey, it's pretty normal for him if u pay attention to his character)
@AnonTDegenerate
@AnonTDegenerate 11 ай бұрын
@@flappyflap2693 brother you can enjoy two things at once. Gojo wanted people on his level, and people to understand him, but he still cares for those weaker than him. Gojo cares deely for non-sorcerors, and he has a mundane life where the only excitement is his students. HAVE WE ALL FORGOTTEN HIS LAST FIGHT IN SHIBUYA?? He had an evil grin, time of his life crushing Hanami in front of Jogo, tearing Jogo's arm off. ALL OF THAT, while still aiming to minimise all the human casualties. It's like saying "Oh why is he so glum rn, he's a jokester" he can be both.
@optiondelta432
@optiondelta432 11 ай бұрын
Gojo forgot he could bend reality to instantly teleport and now the only way the others have a chance to win is if sukuna forgets how to use his imperceivable impossible to dodge space slash
@343JustMe
@343JustMe 11 ай бұрын
Its not impossible to dodge, if anything gojo couldve stopped it too he just didnt know it would hit him. Gojo always has his infinity up passively and it auto filters anything that hits him. Sukunas slash was not detected as something aimed at gojo and so didnt slow it down as it was not identified as a threat. I cant believe everyone forgot this fact since it was just animated in the hidden inventory arc
@flappyflap2693
@flappyflap2693 11 ай бұрын
@@343JustMe yea wtf are u talking about world cleave is a space distorting attack stop yapping
@akeematanda2467
@akeematanda2467 11 ай бұрын
He has six eyes,he can teleport etc .the entire Is bullshit
@tatersalad76
@tatersalad76 11 ай бұрын
Gojo was gassed out, he finished his Black Flash Amp regenerating his arm. He also probably didn't see the attack targeting him and thought it was a blind swing
@user-783hhss7w2oifhe
@user-783hhss7w2oifhe 11 ай бұрын
​@@akeematanda2467 his Six Eyes couldn't see Sukuna's Dismantle at the start of the fight. That was foreshadowing for how he got hit with the dismantle that killed him later
@nycto5335
@nycto5335 11 ай бұрын
Only issue for me is that we were sorta missing a chapter yeah. Gege mentions it but Im sure it's just them joking about it. But we def skipped a chapter. What led to Gojo dropping his guard? Did Sukuna chant? Etc. Cutting from one chapter that ends with Gojo having the upperhand to suddenly starting the next and l he's on the ground split in half with Sukuna narrating what happened... not the most satisfying execution.
@narutokiubissj2
@narutokiubissj2 11 ай бұрын
For real. A hypotethical lost chapter could >start with Gojo shit talking, >the students analyzing and Yuta still being worried could be foreshadowing, >Kenjaku (and and maybe Takaba since he was around the same area) watching the fight or at least his reaction to the purple nuke, >cut back to the battlefied and Sukuna begins to chant while saying something fishy and Gojo, still on a black flash high, ignoring the warning signs >last page of the chapter could be a Dismantle hitting Gojo leaving the readers to speculate how it happened since Maho was destroyed and wondering if Gojo can tank the hit like earlier in the fight or he was done for since Maho easily cut off his arm not too long ago It REALLY feels like we skipped one chapter that is what rubs me the wrong way
@RennHans
@RennHans 11 ай бұрын
But on the other hand, all the gojo stans were being really Obnoxious about it. All like “ Oh, you fraudkuna believers are so stupid of course gojo won he’s the strongest”. For me, it was supremely satisfying
@deathshop2172
@deathshop2172 11 ай бұрын
@@narutokiubissj2 for real, or even have the dismantle cut off gojo's arm as he aims a point blank purple at sukuna. Then he regrows his arm, but his leg comes off. Then his other arm, then his leg, then he's just bisceted. Just make it absolutely brutal. literally anything other than getting offscreened.
@flappyflap2693
@flappyflap2693 11 ай бұрын
@@RennHans so basically ur just a sore loser
@minupakumarasinghe3446
@minupakumarasinghe3446 10 ай бұрын
it's just a dick move too, to end on a promise and then deliver the exact opposite.
@justcallmekai1554
@justcallmekai1554 11 ай бұрын
I feel like that weird jump from 235 and 236 is kinda bad. You dont get to see anything happening but it gets an exposition dump as replacement. Show dont tell. Ik its fast but Gege can still show it. Its for the audience to see not Gojo. Ive said this myself before but it would have been cool to see a weird line that goes down the page at the end of 235 to suggest thats when the world slash was used. Like the world cut is cutting the "world" of the panels breaking the "Gojo Won" scenario. Next chapter could be the moments before the slash from Sukunas perspective, where he attempts to test his slashes. When he cast it THEN it cuts to the airport scene. To me that just feels more filled in presentation wise instead of "Omg it was so fast it felt like we skipped a chapter!"
@joe-on7189
@joe-on7189 11 ай бұрын
The author didn’t know how to end the fight so he got lazy and didn’t care
@ShomeAvi
@ShomeAvi 10 ай бұрын
Damn true...from here jjk will be even more shittier...the author will just be giving plot Armor to a lesser character with way low power than Gojo to kill Sukuna ...there is no other way....
@jhiancarlosclemente6168
@jhiancarlosclemente6168 3 ай бұрын
What do mean? Sukuna explained how he was able to bypass infinity by cutting the space around gojo instead of gojo which is what allowed him to kill gojo, was it a bs move? Yes, but it was still explained
@joe-on7189
@joe-on7189 3 ай бұрын
@@jhiancarlosclemente6168 Are you dumb, Sukuna used a binding vow to cut gojo in half. That’s lazy writing
@joe-on7189
@joe-on7189 3 ай бұрын
@@jhiancarlosclemente6168 Stop dickriding sukuna
@enenra6417
@enenra6417 11 ай бұрын
The shibuya incident showed us that without Gojo the protagonists are too weak to do anything and cant handle threats like Kenjaku. And the culling games arc was the aftermath and how things are bad without Gojo. So having Gojo beat Kenjaku and Sukuna then have the day is saved would've been pretty anti climatic. And in the end we had to rely on Gojo again to beat the big bad
@Chadius_Thundercock
@Chadius_Thundercock 9 ай бұрын
Nobody is mad that gojo died except his stans. The issue is how it was done. First, and a nitpick, bringing gojo back after years of him being gone just to be a sacrificial lamb is cruel. He was a beloved character and having him come back just to appease everyone by giving the fight they want and also so gege can have an excuse to kill someone he hates writing is trash. Second, and the real issue, the way it was done. It’s stated in chapter 235 how fucked Sukuna is, he can’t open his domain, he can’t use rct, he basically can’t defend himself. Then, somehow, he’s able to do anything attack that cuts existence itself. You’re telling me a reality cutting technique takes less cursed energy than rct? A technique that he’s never done before? Sure. Not only that, but the airport scene is a bigger character assassination than season 8 of GOT. He starts glazing Sukuna, talking about how strong he is and how lonely he must be. My brother in Christ, he’s going around killing people for fun and he possessed the body of your adopted son. And not only that, gege has the audacity to make Nanami say that gojo only used sorcery for his own pleasure. Oh my god I don’t even need to talk about how bad that line is. Why would Gojo save Yuji or Yuta? Why would he limit himself in Shibuya vs the disaster curses. Not because he has compassion for those who can’t protect themselves, nah he wants them to live so they can get to his strength and give him a good fight. Complete nonsense. I haven’t even mentioned the issue that happens with Sukuna winning. If the strongest sorcerer of 2 different eras can’t beat him, and apparently when he wasn’t even giving his all according to the fraud gojo at the airport, what chance do these bums have? Yuji doesn’t even have a domain ffs. Not only that, he’s back in his prime form. There’s no chance to kill Sukuna in a way that makes sense. Gege wrote himself into a corner that will guarantee a bad ending. Anyways that’s it for my rambling. His death is trash.
@lionelmangwende2998
@lionelmangwende2998 11 ай бұрын
Gojo had to die because of the story but I don’t think it was down well. Even if he muttered the incarnation Gojos six eyes would’ve seen Sukunas cursed energy accumulating and known an attack is coming.
@ozren8917
@ozren8917 11 ай бұрын
Dismantle is way too fast still even with six eyes as shown beforehand. In 224 gojo wasn’t able to dodge it infinity saved him (he looked worried as it was thrown at him meaning he wasn’t 100% sure it wouldn’t hit him). Mahoragas world slash in 234 was too fast for gojo to react to as well. Even before this fight whenever sukuna uses dismantle it is so fast it pretty much spawns on the opponent. Kashimo is the only person who was able to dodge and he was warned.
@yadafty7671
@yadafty7671 11 ай бұрын
We literally see that this is false when mahoraga does it and gojo couldnt even react
@minupakumarasinghe3446
@minupakumarasinghe3446 10 ай бұрын
We're supposed to believe that Gojo can't pull off a surprise hollow purple because Sukuna can sense it, and even differentiate between Red and Blue before they're fired, but Gojo with 6E can't sense a special binding vow-utilizing world cutting slash?
@The300Player
@The300Player 10 ай бұрын
The world slash is just a stronger dismantle so Gojo had 0 reason to be afraid of it since he knew that dismantle couldnt hit him, you people just overhype the six eyes waaaaay too much as if it makes gojo incapable of making a mistake when that is not true otherwise Shibuya wouldnt have happened​@@minupakumarasinghe3446
@ShomeAvi
@ShomeAvi 10 ай бұрын
​@@minupakumarasinghe3446 When 5he author hates a character anything is possible...thats why i enjoy one piece...there death is sad but satisfying and undersatandable...but..in jjk the whole character development goes down the drain in an instant... From the strongest introduced in chapter to an average...Funny that Sukuna will be beaten in the end by someone who were far lesser than Gojo.. because thats the only way without Gojo...Its even stupid to think Yuji who has no special abilities beating Sukuna..that will be just plot Armor by the author again...Yuta may be a bit stronger than everyone but still he respects Gojo sensei because Gojo was far better than him as he takes it to be...and as has been shown..... Its just wierd...I am still feeling the shitty and bitter taste in my mouth... That chapter of Gojo killed is indigestible...and people saying its for the sake of story is even shitty because stories can be told in many different directions...to chose the shittiest and easiest one..is..just lame....
@Ace-0f-Spadez
@Ace-0f-Spadez 11 ай бұрын
It felt unsatisfying for me that gojos winning then we cut to he’s died to a new sukuna ability in one shot and gojos glazing sukuna if gojo won the manga could be better or worse it depends how it’s done rn the mangas just a sukuna beating up fodder fest so idk. It’s also weird how kashimo could see em coming but gojo just didn’t move or sense/see anything new with the six eyes especially knowing maho cut him earlier
@ExrialHD
@ExrialHD 11 ай бұрын
Speed reader sukuna specially warned kashimo it was coming this be dodged . And nah if sukuna went out now it would’ve been bad and anti climatic. And it’s been shown time and time again gojo gets overconfident and let’s his guard down. After he took out maho of course he got cocky and let to his downfall. It’s just simple reading comprehension
@Ace-0f-Spadez
@Ace-0f-Spadez 11 ай бұрын
@@ExrialHD warning kashimo doesn’t matter kashimo can still see the slashes and gojos six eyes would be able to detect them and their properties he’s over confident but not literally blind
@ExrialHD
@ExrialHD 11 ай бұрын
@@Ace-0f-Spadez and not every slash is dimension slash it’s been stated clearly speed reader sukuna has clearly not been spamming that ability. And who cares about seeing them? Every world dimension slash has been shown to be near instant and undodgeable. Sorry that your still crying months later and can’t read anymore and just sprouting random head cannon
@Ace-0f-Spadez
@Ace-0f-Spadez 11 ай бұрын
@@ExrialHD there’s been no instant dimension slash considering they travel a distance as shown against kashimo I’m not mad gojo won but someone with the six eyes multiple black flash amps and speed relative to or faster then sukuna would’ve been able to do something abt it especially considering if sukuna was prepping a slash gojo would’ve seen it with six eyes he sees ce visually as a manifestation it outlines his eye sight in everything saying he’s too cocky to see is just bad writing if true
@ExrialHD
@ExrialHD 11 ай бұрын
@@Ace-0f-Spadez the first slash thorwn was a dimension slash and sukuna specifically warned him of it plus he used chants before it .There is no indication that the webbed slash he threw second is the same one nor is there any reason to think he can keep spamming a move of that ability. Again tho you can keep making excuses. Having six eyes dosent make you all knowing else he wouldn’t of gotten fooled so many times already in the story. And what makes you think he can even stop it? He already got clapped by the same ability from maho and he couldn’t even react
@Cam-w5b
@Cam-w5b 11 ай бұрын
What pissed me off the most was Gojos statements in the airport after the fight saying he couldn’t have beaten him even if he didn’t have ten shadows although what sukuna said right after beating him contradicts this as Mahoraga directly contributed to him learning how to bypass infinity
@ExrialHD
@ExrialHD 11 ай бұрын
OG sukuna would just win the domain battles essentially due to chants and being stronger in general
@Cam-w5b
@Cam-w5b 11 ай бұрын
@@ExrialHD i can agree on that but I’m saying without heian form gojo could’ve still won
@ExrialHD
@ExrialHD 11 ай бұрын
@@Cam-w5b highly doubt it as we don’t even know og sukuna full capabilities . He purposely took the most risky and deadly option to fight sukuna and still got away relatively in fighting shape
@bilzkhan3029
@bilzkhan3029 11 ай бұрын
⁠@@ExrialHDI would argue that without the knowledge of limitless that sukuna got from yuji and megumi, like if sukuna and gojo had just met and fought the battle would have gone differently. Sukuna wouldn’t have known that touching gojo in infinite void keeps him safe, wouldn’t have known how blue red and purple work. People don’t realise that sukuna had batman level knowledge and prep on gojo and act as if that does nothing to affect the battle .
@ahmadkazan5473
@ahmadkazan5473 11 ай бұрын
@@ExrialHD gojo would adapt diffrently to heian form domain,he won;t just try to overpower him like he did vs megumi sukuna,he would take a more defensive approach till his ct replinishes and utilize teleports alot more,also he cans spame blue red and purple WAY more.
@everespitia4486
@everespitia4486 10 ай бұрын
This will go down as the WORST and more out of character DEATHS in Manga History 1- Theres no reasonable way for Sukuna to pass Infinity without 10 shadows 2- Why did Gege make Gojo say “ Sukuna didint give it all” ??? The man was loosing 3v1 and even the narrator says he was feeling uneasy… why dissrespect Gojo like that ? 3- You end a chapter with a guy that haves the 6 EYES+RCT Back+”In the zone” for landing multiple black flashes… but yeah he just stay still while the world exterminator was charge+bindbow by Sukuna, SURE 100% logic 4- You know WHY Gege didint show the exact moment of the hit? BCS he knows and WE ALL KNOW, it was BULLSHIT lameriding Gege just wanted Gojo to die, bcs he doesnt like the character and bcs its Too over powered for the story to continue, and we know Gege likes to speedrun the story , simple as that You cant make someone untouchable and then make stuff out to be touch… Is lazy Then just make Higuruma “another genius like Sukuna, understand the basics of cutting and now he Is uncutable… “ Anyway, the worst way to writte a MC death in History, well done Gege
@juliuswanjiru3308
@juliuswanjiru3308 8 ай бұрын
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@thisIs_REQUIEM
@thisIs_REQUIEM 7 ай бұрын
He’s not really an MC and that’s why he died as he was gone most of the story and with the current chapter yuji is even more of an mc I agree with everything else you said but he’s not the main character otherwise what’s the point of building yujis story it would be a lame ending
@kadinpeyton4378
@kadinpeyton4378 7 ай бұрын
@@thisIs_REQUIEMliterally nobody disagrees with gojo dying it’s how he died
@winslowtjiptadi6359
@winslowtjiptadi6359 11 ай бұрын
I believe this scene wouldn't be this controversial if sukuna were left a little bit more desperate before ending gojo, like he transformed back so at least the slash which ends gojo was from a full health sukuna vs what remains of gojo.. this is sukuna's new ultimate ability, it makes perfect sense if he needed his heian body to execute the technique before ending gojo
@YRS_Only
@YRS_Only 10 ай бұрын
They sould fix it so it becomes that way in the anime ngl, it made gojo look pathetic imo.
@DKing-du6xr
@DKing-du6xr 11 ай бұрын
It felt extremely anticlimactic because Gege reduced Gojo to only his character development, which would have been fine for majority of anime characters. But we know and appreciate that Gojo was also a fighting prodigy and maniac, he liked violence and love beating down his opponents while being cocky about it. That’s part of what made him an iconic character. By losing the way he did, Gege pretty much mocked Gojo’s fighting prowess, his ego, his pride… Gojo tossed all of that way just to finally accept his final character shift. The end of his loneliness. Someone was finally able to bypass his infinity, reach him, beat him fair and square (almost), and end his misery of never being able to connect with anyone. But then what? The gojo we grew fond of would never accept defeat like that, like in his fight against toji. So to see gojo go out like this is definitely… bittersweet. His smile and excitement during battle will definitely be missed. Up to yuuji now. And i just wonder if megumi will ever be relevant again…
@drsh1711
@drsh1711 11 ай бұрын
The problem wasn't the death but the events surrounding it........ - Like him mentioning Sukuna was way above his league when we saw an almost equal clash between them - Or how Gojo couldn't intercept such a massive attack despite the spark of CE being established just before - Sukuna not taking enough damage from point blank purple despite saying it would be fatal
@jonathancarranza6046
@jonathancarranza6046 11 ай бұрын
People will ignore this points because "Gojo had to die because he was too OP" as if hin dying doesn't leave the story with the same problem. Sukuna is way too strong for anyone on the good side to do anything to him.
@yadafty7671
@yadafty7671 11 ай бұрын
The attack is simply too fast for gojo. when mahoraga did it, gojo couldnt even react.
@wettightpussy
@wettightpussy 10 ай бұрын
@@jonathancarranza6046that’s not true really. You gotta understand that if Gojo won, the story ends there and there’s no point to keep reading unless some bullshit gets written in suddenly. There’s no real stakes, intensity, or reason to keep reading if Gojo is alive alongside the other sorcerers because they can now just solve any problem. Sukuna being alive brings uncertainty because you are actually are unsure if the good guys will beat sukuna at this point, either they get stronger find a way to defeat him, or Sukuna defeats everyone. Gojo death can open more plot points, regardless if you think Sukuna still being alive is bad, Gojo winning would’ve straight up just ended the story.
@drsh1711
@drsh1711 10 ай бұрын
@@yadafty7671 we can only make assumptions now
@Blackmustache870
@Blackmustache870 10 ай бұрын
​@@drsh1711​@drsh1711 1. The the fight is a representation of sukuna holding back. Why does nobody understand that the fight is not sukuna at full power, therefore, does not mean sukuna was equal to gojo? 2.it didn't matter if gojo noticed or not. He wouldn't have thought sukuna could get through infinity do he had no reason to dodge. 3. Sukuna was making a gamble. Getting hit fatally was just one of the possibilities that could've occured
@JS-dn1uo
@JS-dn1uo 8 ай бұрын
Tbh I was expecting and even hoping for Gojo to lose in this fight because it would drive the other characters (Yuji mainly) to push past whatever is holding them back along with the plot. The problem I have is again what many people in this comment section have said: the conclusion was too damn rushed. Even Gege said as much. Not to mention that conclusion happened off panel. Then the blatant character assassination of Gojo with the Nanami speech completely destroying whatever character development Gojo had in the story (the whole point of the Hidden Inventory Arc). The strongest being a lonely life and full of despair is an interesting point and makes OP characters like Gojo and (I assume cause I havent watched or read OPM in a long time) Saitama interesting. The only way to balance op characters is to give them demons to deal with constantly. Another example is immortals in Highlander or any other story of immortal beings who dont age and cant die having to watch their loved ones slowly age and die while they still live and the prize being mortality at the end of the story. Also I knew Mahoraga was going to be used even before I read the fight as it's adaptability was hyped up so much by even Sukuna but that doesn't make it slightly disappointing. With how powerful and especially intelligent and skilled as Sukuna was hyped up to be I was hoping for him to outskill and outsmart Gojo due to his far higher combat experience and the lore but for most of the fight as soon as Mahoraga came out he just stood there afk waiting for Adaptation to finish. It honestly felt more like Mahoraga won as opposed to Sukuna which is disappointing IMO. Not to mention it gave me the vibes of the Hogyoku in Bleach removing any tension from fights involving Aizen. Sorry for the rant I'm trying to become an animator and storyteller through that and I love this series to death so I just had to put it out there. Have a good day y'all
@vincentblack7032
@vincentblack7032 11 ай бұрын
My issue is Sakuna bisected Gojo, Ce comes from the gut but RCT comes from the head. Right before Gojo was stated to have his RCT back to full due to the Black Flashes. So shouldn’t he be able to use his RCT to heal himself? His brain, heart and RCT should all still be at full and intact. We’ve seen Hikari heal entire limbs why can’t Gojo. Not to mention this need to go for the head on RCT users has since been heavily emphasized throughout the story like with Kenny’s hunt, Yutas sneak attack and now Higuruma and Sakuna again proving he’s aware of the need. Why is Gojo dead how does it make sense with what we have and have been given. I don’t think the fight was bad or the end as long as Gojo can return otherwise i think it breaks verse rules. Additionally idk how Gojo didn’t get ready for the chanting when we now know that it’s needed and he has 6 Eyes. I don’t think Cocky Gojo makes sense in this state, Gojo himself said how he knew he was weaker after and Sakuna didn’t chant the entire time whole fight that is definitely concerning. Sakuna muttering is legit dumb and bad writing. Finally Gojo got hit with the world cleave by Mahagaraga why didn’t ge notice it was difference with the 6 eyes. Like we can still enjoy the series but this is such a contentious fight.
@peexel
@peexel 11 ай бұрын
ce flows through your body, so without the head and gut having a a way to connect then rct is useless (basically what the dude above me said)
@mrprotoman154
@mrprotoman154 11 ай бұрын
Hakari’s regeneration is automatic and was stated to surpass Gojo and Sukuna. No one aside from Hakari has been shown to be able to regrow the entire bottom half of their body. Hell not even Hakari has done something like that though he most likely could. Gojo was assured of his victory, literally walked up to Sukuna and said the fight was over. Sukuna chanting for space dismantle is the same as Gojo chanting for reversal red. Both Gojo and Sukuna just sat there and let it happen because they believed they could take it. It’s debatable if Gojo could even perceive Sukuna’s normal dismantle let alone space dismantle. They’re both invisible, not really much of a difference to the person being cut. Six Eyes aren’t Sharingan, Gojo couldn’t even see if there were humans on the other side of Hanami’s plants in Shibuya. There’s no reason Gojo would know about space dismantle ahead of time.
@greezchum76
@greezchum76 11 ай бұрын
@@mrprotoman154 also, the only reason why he guessed geto wasn’t geto in shibuya was by a gut feeling, meaning his 6 eyes couldn’t distinguish kenjaku from geto’s body, even though kenjaku is super old and has more cts up his sleeve. I dont see why he would be able to distinguish a normal slash and a space slash, if he even can see them
@vincentblack7032
@vincentblack7032 11 ай бұрын
@@mrprotoman154 Sakuna did not just sit there he stressed out and yelled for Maharaga to change the blast to stop the connection. It was stated that Hikari was over Gojo yes, but it doesn’t take away from the feats we’ve seen from him. Healing the brain stab from inverted spear and the slashes to his neck and entire body while fighting should be more the enough proof this is Gojo we are talking about. Gojo is genius at Jujustu but didn’t think about an attack that surpasses his infinity and it’s implications. A Gojo that doesn’t react to a Sakuna that still was surviving after the last ditch creative attacks he made is also dumb which we haven’t seen him ass at all. Again a brain stab is pretty damn deadly too imo especially combined with all the other stabs he received.
@vincentblack7032
@vincentblack7032 11 ай бұрын
@@jeremy_as_usual He didn’t need to produce any CE though it was started the black flashes had him at 100% he was full on energy
@CosmicValentine
@CosmicValentine 11 ай бұрын
How he died wasn't the problem. It was the way his death was presented that I don't like. Offscreening a major characters death is foul and I'm not budging on that. This would be like off Oda offscreen'ed Shanks in a fight against Blackbeard and we don't get to see how Shanks was defeated. Also, if the world cutting slash is so simple, why did we not get to see it happen to Gojo? I'm not asking for some major clash of techniques, but unless Sukuna revealed his technique to Gojo and then used the world cutting slash and we see it later, then I have no issue. But, if Gojo's death was just completely off screened, that is unacceptable to me, I don't care if they didn't say word to each other and Sukuna just quietly cut him in half with no effort, I just need to see how.
@theninetailsslayer1939
@theninetailsslayer1939 11 ай бұрын
So you just want to see Gojo's top half suddenly fall over? I feel like that would be more awkward than what we got.
@CosmicValentine
@CosmicValentine 11 ай бұрын
​@@theninetailsslayer1939 Man, that's better than his legs just standing there like an among us character! He could get sliced violently and fall down and that's fine, just having it be off screen doesn't sit right with me unless Sukuna revealed his technique and that's why or another reason then it's fine.
@theninetailsslayer1939
@theninetailsslayer1939 11 ай бұрын
@@CosmicValentine Would it really make that much of a different in terms of shock? The main part that shook everyone was that it went from "Gojo wins" to "Gojo loses half his body".
@williamm.653
@williamm.653 11 ай бұрын
Gojo dying isn’t bad. If anything, he needed to be removed so the story could progress. And if you ask me there are only TWO problems with the ending Gege wrote for Gojo/The battle of the Strongests . 1. You had Sukuna successfully be able to learn how Mahoraga adapted to limitless and apply it to his own CT (cleave/dismantle). I hope I don’t need to explain to everyone why giving an already OP villain an EVEN MORE OP technique is ridiculous lol. The entire fight could go exactly the same way except towards the end, either have Gojo blow himself up entirely/partially but fatally or completely fry his brain in the process of nuking himself and Sukuna. This prevents the need of giving Sukuna an “atomic or reality cutting” cleave/dismantle to kill Gojo which in turn makes the chances of victory against him seem more plausible. An ending where the good guys lose is interesting and different but being able to see it coming is boring imo. JJK was at its absolute best when the stakes were high and you deadass didn’t know which side was going to win. No one else is left who is on par with Gojo which means Sukuna is simply playing with his food at this point. Only a matter of time before he wins or he “underestimates the MC” and loses which would then be terrible for Sukuna’s character. 2. Gojo’s final thoughts in the after life were spent more on insecurely glazing Sukuna and less on his students lol. The same students he told Ijichii that he would help raise so they can become strong like him and help him reset the Jujustsu World. Having him come across as insecure in his glazing for Sukuna is totally out of character. This is like if Sukuna dies at the end of the series and in the afterlife he says some out of character stuff like “I’ve always wanted to live a peaceful happy life and help people along the way”. Yes, it’s a moment of vulnerability granted to Gojo ONLY upon his death but even in that moment of vulnerability, Gege did not have to make Gojo come across so insecure about himself when comparing himself to Sukuna. That’s never been the Gojo we know. You could easily have him acknowledge Sukuna’s strength while still being confident in his abilities and everything he did leading up to his death. Like maybe a few lines then the rest should have been spent talking more about the regrets he has perhaps about leaving his students behind and not being able to watch them grow and become strong and eventually surpass him. I think that’s why most people have such a bitter taste in their mouth when the topic is JJK chapter 236. Thats unless you’re one of the Sukuna D*cksuckers. Not Sukuna FANS because they also care about the story and its characters and not just about whether their fave takes a W.
@harshraj9266
@harshraj9266 11 ай бұрын
It was bad admit it
@DKing-du6xr
@DKing-du6xr 11 ай бұрын
Couldn’t have said it better. And he subsequent fights have been worse and worse. Gege didn’t even give kashimo a full chapter lmao, after the later used the one technique he’s been saving up his whole life.. and that got me thinking. This is very atypical of gege. He’s usually very good at keeping a pretty fair balance between the two camps. But this time, when it’s supposed to matter the most, he immediately gets rid of the protagonists’ two biggest heavy hitters in the form of gojo and awakened kashimo. He then immediately takes out kenjaku (supposedly). So supposedly you have yuuta, maki, yuuji, hakari against full power sukuna and uraume. The only way i could see any chance of winning for the protagonists would be if kenjaku had some twisted plan than he activated before ‘dying’, amongst which his supposed merger. It truly feels like the series is ending soon.
@u5ag1.
@u5ag1. 11 ай бұрын
My problem is that if the six eyes could see read and monitor cursed energy on a deeper and better level then why didn't he see sukuna or Mahoraga changing their cursed energy😂😂
@1brytastic
@1brytastic 11 ай бұрын
They didn’t
@gekido27216
@gekido27216 11 ай бұрын
Because gege couldn't figure out how to kill gojo correctly.
@u5ag1.
@u5ag1. 11 ай бұрын
@@gekido27216 maybe 😂😂
@Reseptics
@Reseptics 11 ай бұрын
because gaygay had no idea what he was doing with this fight. it was pretty evident from the very beginning. this was just to cash in on the hype and get rid of his least favorite character.
@SleepingSoulK
@SleepingSoulK 11 ай бұрын
@@gekido27216Definitely you can see how he described Gojo and cane up with him stating he wanted to create a op character after that he got Gojo which means Sukuna despite the series hyping him up wasn’t considered THE strongest like he did for Gojo the writing was on the walls the whole time during the fight you can see Gege had no real idea how he can kill Gojo and he was prevailing through everything that was thrown hell there’s multiple points in the fights Gojo would’ve won Don’t even get me started with the fact Sukuna himself said the second hollow purple if Gojo got it off would kill him outright yet he survived despite Gojo stacking 4 hollow purples and amplified the output of the technique with chants so…what did Gege cook
@gekido27216
@gekido27216 11 ай бұрын
Yes it was bad, not that he died but how it was executed. Gege could have shown sukuna using the upgraded slash as the last panel and it would have made more sense. Also gojo in the airport was saying some out of character stuff so I think gege really didn't know how to kill him off.
@yadafty7671
@yadafty7671 11 ай бұрын
Someone made a very small edit to the "Gojo wins" panel and it honestly fixes everything. They included a panel cut in gojo's torso so it looks like a simple panel break and nothing unusual. But due to how it looks and how pointless the panel break is, it could be seen as sukuna slicing the panel apart like how he slices the world with his new slash. Such a tiny detail could be added to fix this all.
@karthikk9186
@karthikk9186 11 ай бұрын
Then only thing that doesn't add up is if Gojo was amped from 4 black flashes and got his RCT output back, couldn't he have just regrown the body back? I think the volume release will have extra pages that explain that the slash has some extra properties that haven't been shown now.
@1brytastic
@1brytastic 11 ай бұрын
Thats practically impossible.
@chromtastic2092
@chromtastic2092 11 ай бұрын
Rct has never been shown to regrow more than limbs or a organ not an entire torso , also cursed energy comes from the gut which was cut in half for gojo so no rct would be able to cycle though the body in time
@karthikk9186
@karthikk9186 11 ай бұрын
​@@chromtastic2092considering it's Gojo, I assumed it was possible but you're right
@boredomkiller99
@boredomkiller99 11 ай бұрын
I mean it seems Kenjaku thought Yuki could use RCT to save herself despite being cut apart and was therefore was surprised she chose attacking him over livinh
@3609Sean
@3609Sean 11 ай бұрын
Am I the only one that feels like Mahoraga being able to use Sukuna's CT in the first place is an asspull?
@brandonjablasone7544
@brandonjablasone7544 8 ай бұрын
Deff ass upp
@johnpela8622
@johnpela8622 11 ай бұрын
I mean gojo did kinda have to die since the plot really wouldn't go on involving him one shotting kenjaku im still unsatisfied with how he died.
@GH0ST301
@GH0ST301 11 ай бұрын
I'm just waiting for the next chapter to repeat history, considering it's the second cliffhanger to Sukuna's 'defeat'.
@yingames275
@yingames275 11 ай бұрын
Yuji wakes up in the airport with nobara and junpei greeting him Sukuna boutta tell yuji’s corpse he shot out cleave using his ass fart and sliced yuji in half
@flappyflap2693
@flappyflap2693 11 ай бұрын
@@yingames275 LOL
@justsaiyan3294
@justsaiyan3294 11 ай бұрын
​@@yingames275😂😂
@thekamotodragon
@thekamotodragon 11 ай бұрын
My only issue with it "making sense" was that they had just explained to us how Gojo got RCT back from those black flashes, and then he gets his body cut in half... SO WHY COULDN'T HE JUST HEAL IT!? It's never explained, he had RCT, and he has said multiple times that unless you get him in the brain or nullify his rct before injuring him, that he can come back, so wtf? I seriously don't get how he didn't just heal his lower body back and pop right back up.
@SilentAgression1Tillion
@SilentAgression1Tillion 11 ай бұрын
He had to die but the way he died made people upset
@joe-on7189
@joe-on7189 11 ай бұрын
The reason that Gojo didn’t “dodge” because it happened offscreen. “Great writing”
@1brytastic
@1brytastic 11 ай бұрын
No its because he cant react to dismantle. Wth
@joe-on7189
@joe-on7189 11 ай бұрын
@@1brytastic Really, where did they explain that moron
@chromtastic2092
@chromtastic2092 11 ай бұрын
One small panel of the slash hitting gojo would have changed nothing bruh💀
@joe-on7189
@joe-on7189 11 ай бұрын
@@chromtastic2092 You’re right, Fraudkuna would have “beaten” gojo without mahoraga. Moron
@thatokperson
@thatokperson 11 ай бұрын
​@@1brytasticwhy the hell should the person with 6 eyes and an instant teleport not be able to dodge that shit
@wheresprototype3507
@wheresprototype3507 11 ай бұрын
All I would add to "fix" it is add 3 panels of Sukuna smiling at the end, him making a hand signal and Gojo turning around. Than we fully understand what happened, it was a surprise attack, and we knew Sukuna had it ready the moment Gojo turned away from him and Gojo couldn't react due to say, lack of remaining cursed energy to move and Gojo being surprised Sukuna slashed again he didn't have a chance to dodge.
@kharirichards
@kharirichards 11 ай бұрын
Literally! I've been saying the same thing since that chapter: "Gege gave up, cause 4 panels max would've done the job."
@reymehdi3512
@reymehdi3512 2 ай бұрын
The chapter literally destroyed Gojo Satoru's character, made him a person who only focuses on his personal pleasure by entering a deadly fight and leaving his students to face the biggest disaster on earth, and what ended this character is his amplification of Sukuna after the fight, are we kidding here?? Even if everything he said is true, would Gojo Satoru say this and destroy the sadistic character that was built for more than 200+, damn man
@renascott1699
@renascott1699 2 ай бұрын
@@reymehdi3512 exactly
@filipevasconcelos4409
@filipevasconcelos4409 11 ай бұрын
I remember reading somewhere that Sukuna could always cut without chants because he was so efficient on the use of cursed energy. He let a few cuts with chants on the start of the battle to bait Gojo to think those were his prerequisites. When he knew he could kill Gojo, he just let out his best slash
@joshuarivera1336
@joshuarivera1336 11 ай бұрын
Chants are to strengthen your technique. He didn’t chant in this fight
@mostlyfacts82
@mostlyfacts82 11 ай бұрын
we dont really see gojo cut chants and he is 100% more efficient at using ce since he has limitless. even if he did cut some chants gojo was right infront of him and couldve finished him off/interrupted the chant. also chants dont just make your technique stronger a sorcerer said it makes sense how sukuna wasnt hitting them with dimension slash as a technique like that would logically need a binding vow/chant
@blu3d3vil97
@blu3d3vil97 11 ай бұрын
​@@mostlyfacts82 kusakabe doesn't know the details of the spacial slash He is working on assumptions
@Ryuk937
@Ryuk937 11 ай бұрын
​@@blu3d3vil97yeah but what we have seen until now sukuna do use chants everytime
@blu3d3vil97
@blu3d3vil97 11 ай бұрын
@sukuna937 um no, kashimo is 1-1 for chants and non chants
@juandominguez2603
@juandominguez2603 11 ай бұрын
I’m in the middle. I think it was good because of the reality that if Gojo were to continue in the story there would be no development for the rest of the cast because of the strength and ideals Gojo brought to the story already. Also, him leaving all his ideals with his students is beautiful because now the rest of the cast can defeat Sukuna, something their teacher couldn’t do because he wanted the burden to himself. Finally, Gege left the topic on who’s the strongest up for interpretation, with both Sukuna and Gojo giving each other props. I just hate how Gege didn’t show us the way Sukuna was able to beat Gojo, like what led Gojo to let his guard down for Sukuna to use the slash that cuts space in order to defeat him like what happened man. I can accept my favorite character dying in the story but like come on what happened.
@goodmorning8055
@goodmorning8055 11 ай бұрын
Wt f bruh other cast? They're dying one by one it's annoying to see Sukuna i hope this shit will end soon
@ozren8917
@ozren8917 11 ай бұрын
He didn’t really need to drop his guard for dismantle to hit. Prior to 236 Gojo wasnt able to react to sukunas slashes either. In 224 Gojo was suprised sukuna was using dismantle, then slash just hits the building as infinity saved him (he looked worried meaning he wasnt 100% sure infinity would save him yet wasnt able to react). And mahoragas world slash was also too fast for him to react. Only thing that should be explained (and surely will be) is how did sukuna in such state launch that strong of a dismantle, speed of the attack remains same even with low cursed energy output as seen after sukuna took over megumi. As of now kashimo is only person who dodged it and he was warned.
@narutokiubissj2
@narutokiubissj2 11 ай бұрын
​@@ozren8917 I get that but that doesn't adress the issue that it feels like we skipped a chapter. Thats my only issue with how the ending of the fight was handled. We have to speculate how it happened becasue it was not shown to us and that, after coming from such a hyped and detailed fight, left a bad taste in the readers mouths.
@flappyflap2693
@flappyflap2693 11 ай бұрын
funny how u say "now the rest of the cast can defeat sukuna" like he isn't at his peak rn like no matter how u frame it they're gonna win by plot and 99% of the original cast with ideals are like yk dead or useless there's really no poetic justice in them winning at this point
@Doingmything0
@Doingmything0 11 ай бұрын
​@@narutokiubissj2it most likely happend during the hallow purple and when gojo was chatting after but didnt realise he was cut yet.
@bugambilia4063
@bugambilia4063 11 ай бұрын
I just feel like gege kinda rushed the ending
@Dissolveee
@Dissolveee 11 ай бұрын
The goat has dropped again
@xmere
@xmere 11 ай бұрын
WISSOLVE
@boxjosh95JS
@boxjosh95JS 11 ай бұрын
It's super greedy that sukuna doesn't get the feat of being able to produce an attack that gojo could barely react to. In Fact gojo could have moved but he was infused with an extra chromosome and decided to chance it with the guy he was convinced could kill him so he could make a dumb pose at the end?
@brandonjablasone7544
@brandonjablasone7544 8 ай бұрын
Make not sense anyway you slice it
@villaintroy1877
@villaintroy1877 11 ай бұрын
u see the way they walked off into the sunset talkin bout “this is our kaisen” or whatever tf they said…… that’s when they lost me 😭😭😭😭😭😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫
@stunna4498
@stunna4498 11 ай бұрын
4:51 ngl this made me laugh alot “aimed for the space gojo hip existed “ 😭😭😭😭🤣
@Necokeniii
@Necokeniii 11 ай бұрын
I get why gojo had to die but gege could have done better, what has gojo's death do for the story? The main cast are still stuck in the same situation, sukana doesn't even seem tired despite the back to back fights. If sukana was weakened and had to use his CT or show us something to let us know he's nearing his limit, I'd be more ok with gojo's death because then, he gave his students a fighting chance. Gege seems to like to introduce a problem, ignore it for a bit or give false hope JUST to do so. That's my gripe with gojo's ending and jjk as a whole, it seems like suffering for the sake of it instead of trying to say something
@mjolninja9358
@mjolninja9358 11 ай бұрын
How would you end Gojo vs Sukuna?
@Necokeniii
@Necokeniii 11 ай бұрын
@@mjolninja9358 I’d have gojo be out of commission but seriously damage Sukana or kill him. If gojo can’t be the strongest cus he’s too burned out to even fight again, his students can lend them their strength. Which would help gojo remember you never have to do it all alone
@thekamotodragon
@thekamotodragon 11 ай бұрын
@@Necokeniii actually good response, i thought that was the more proper way to handle it too, like he's a major character. Not only should the death or grievous injury of Gojo been on screen, but there should have been permanent, physical effects from the fight on the rest of the story, like Sukuna being severely nerfed to the point of him being weak enough to be beaten by the rest of the characters would've been perfect. It felt like a waste of Gojo's character. He essentially did nothing except kill Megumi and take Sukuna's domain away for a little while.
@mjolninja9358
@mjolninja9358 11 ай бұрын
@@Necokeniii Gojo’s role in the story was to be the protagonist’s standard (Be it the measuring stick for power and overall influence in the jujutsu society), he’s never the MC, he’s not supposed to kill Sukuna. He did damaged Sukuna enough to force him to change into his original form when Kashimo fought him + the the 10 Shadows are gone especially Makora. And it’s been said multiple times that tagging along Gojo would just weaken him, if Yuta and the others went in there to help they’d either be swallowed whole by that hollow purple or Gojo would be forced to not used that at technique at all. Not all characters in the story has to die with an explanation, thats the message in JJK. Any moment is life or death, we’ve seen that in Shibuya. Nobara, Nanami were absolutely demolished by Mahito and Yuji/Todo haven’t even done enough to fully exorcise him and instead it was Kenjaku who had to completely take him out. I believe what you’re asking is for Gojo to have left a mark on the enemy, he did and you’re just looking at it wrong.
@justsaiyan3294
@justsaiyan3294 11 ай бұрын
@@mjolninja9358 long explanation. I have a short one. Gojo needs to die for plot to go on. Gojo needs to die the way he did for shock value. And now Yuji will get a sudden power up to kill Sukuna. Simple.
@therealdanofano
@therealdanofano 11 ай бұрын
My only issue is that gojo put up such a good fight yet didn’t nerf sukuna enough for the main cast to finish him like sure he only took away sukuna’s domain expansion but he didn’t hurt sukuna enough for anyone to fight so now they might drop like flies
@ExplosiveGrape
@ExplosiveGrape 11 ай бұрын
Wouldn’t that be unsatisfying, like if Gojo got Sukuna down too 1 hp and Mei Mei’s crow killed Sukuna. Edit: exaggerated a bit but my point still stands.
@troy7835
@troy7835 11 ай бұрын
@@ExplosiveGrapestill, gojo had no impact at all in retrospect since sukuna literally just popped a senzu bean after the fight. It was just a way to get gojo out the way and didn’t affect the plot the way it could have
@ExrialHD
@ExrialHD 11 ай бұрын
Your delusional if you think gojo didn’t do anything to help the fight against sukuna. He literally got rid of his domain expansion and took away maho and the 10 Shadows essentially
@therealdanofano
@therealdanofano 11 ай бұрын
@@ExrialHD he did, I’m not saying he didn’t but I just wish he did more to damage sukuna because like now sukuna can cut space itself and has durability negation idk how they’re gonna deal wit that
@ExplosiveGrape
@ExplosiveGrape 11 ай бұрын
@@troy7835 Honestly I see no problem with Gojo having no impact. However I would have liked if Sukuna was forced to show a hidden technique.
@cheesygonecrazy5639
@cheesygonecrazy5639 11 ай бұрын
my biggest question with the first point is why did Gojo not resort to reverse cursed technique after getting cut? Maybe it was because it was such a big cut but I still find it a bit weird. Any answers?
@masqueradeee
@masqueradeee 10 ай бұрын
He was fighting writer that's why...the way gege executed his death pretty he just wanted him be dead
@khalilwilson2586
@khalilwilson2586 11 ай бұрын
Yes, from the lack of interactions with his students, to the sudden death after basically winning most of the fight, to the glazing in the after life. It goes against the character we knew the entire series. “Cutting the world” is the lamest excuse especially after being amped up and against a weakened sukuna. Idc he lost but the way he lost still feels like an asspull and yes, I understand the themes of jjk. Just because I understand and accept them doesn’t mean I have to agree with how it’s executed. “Near impossible” but he does it perfectly the first time with no drawbacks lol
@Matsuyamachi
@Matsuyamachi 11 ай бұрын
whomp whomp
@ssamjr
@ssamjr 11 ай бұрын
whomp whomp
@legendary1873
@legendary1873 11 ай бұрын
Ah yes, the absolute strongest character in the series who was stated to have the prodigal brain to learn things the first time he sees it(i.e turning into cursed object and healing exhausted curse technique) was able to copy something on the spot with his 1000+ years of experience on Earth for the first time is convenient and bad writing.😂
@sleepyking4558
@sleepyking4558 11 ай бұрын
It doesn’t really go against his character bud I think u just had a poor understanding of the character. Gojo’s portrayal was actually really accurate to how nanami viewed him. I don’t see how it’s an asspull at all, given it was known he was trying to use the adaption to learn a new technique or upgrade his own. And it was foreshadowed multiple chapters before the exact thing he was going to do. And he didn’t say it was near impossible to perform it. He said it would’ve been near impossible to figure out/learn it without mahoraga. At this point I’m guessing u just lack reading comprehension. Also before u say it sukuna saying he needed mahoraga to learn how to bypass infinity with dismantle. Isn’t an admission he would’ve lost the fight without Mahoraga. Use basic critical thinking skills. He would’ve won the fight in the domain clashes all together. The part of the fight where leading up to the 5th clash he had to outright pass up on multiple opportunities that could’ve resulted in serious outcomes for gojo. And the part of the fight which gojo only survived past as a result of luckily and barely getting UV off first in the 5th clash by 0.01 seconds. As a result of sukuna being delayed. Which was caused by him taking the time leading up to the clash turning off DA essentially tanking more damage than he had to. (DA was stated to massively reduce the damage of attacks, and it would’ve nullified gojo’s blue enveloped attacks) Meanwhile gojo was taking the time leading up to envelope his hands in blue and try and do as much damage as possible. And both of those things in combination led to sukuna being delayed and gojo just barely pulling off UV first by 0.01 seconds. Which caused sukuna’s brain damage preventing him from ending gojo after the 5th clash. So all in all had that portion of the fight (domain clashes) gone just a little differently sukuna would’ve won.
@thecookieman7077
@thecookieman7077 11 ай бұрын
​@@legendary1873yeah, but mainly because we weren't given any explanation. RCT is a different case, given that it relies on the manipulation of cursed energy, something anyone could theoretically learn. Sukuna, however, copied Mahoraga's technique, or more specifically, his adaptation. A World Slash is fundamentally different to Cleave or Dismantle, no matter how you look at it; cutting space and cutting things are two different abilities. If World Slash really is just Sukuna's CT but with its target widened (the target being space itself), then there's no reason why Sukuna, the prodigy able to learn anything on the spot, wouldn't be able to learn it by himself during the one month time skip in preparation for the fight. It most likely has something to do with Black Box (an explanation as to how exactly it works would be nice to hear, if that is the case), but we have yet to get any confirmation of this, a pretty big oversight when you are possibly making it the reason as to why the battle between the strongest was won by Sukuna.
@hatsu584
@hatsu584 11 ай бұрын
goat back with another banger🙏
@xmere
@xmere 11 ай бұрын
No bro, you are back!
@Getrftarshodim
@Getrftarshodim 11 ай бұрын
Gojo actually saw that maharoga could do a slash that could pass infinity, so why would he think sakuna that was using maharoga to learn a way to bypass infinity wouldn't use the same slash? Also there is no way it was too fast for gojo, they were relatable to each other whole fight. 7:38
@imnotblindbutiloveblindfol8449
@imnotblindbutiloveblindfol8449 11 ай бұрын
Depends. There were multiple instances where Gojo couldn’t react to Sukuna’s slashes. Not to mention even if he could see it you also have to wonder what if he thought it wouldn’t go through Infinity?
@ozren8917
@ozren8917 11 ай бұрын
Because i don’t think gojo was fully aware of how mahoragas adaptation work and the fact it keeps evolving. First time mahoraga got adapted to infinity it was something sukuna had no way to replicate. Gojo simply didn’t notice difference in mahoragas adaptation in 232 and 234.
@thatokperson
@thatokperson 11 ай бұрын
​@@imnotblindbutiloveblindfol8449But why the hell can goji nkt see when a slash is coming despite having six eyes but sukuna can see "the sparks" of a red or purple. Like wtf kinda plot convenience is that
@blu3d3vil97
@blu3d3vil97 11 ай бұрын
​@thatokperson sensing cursed energy buildup doesn't mean u wilk see an attack that can be done instantly and is literally invisible Six eyes has failed multiple times to see things, its not an omniscient ability and throughout the fight all slashes had gojo only react after the hit happened
@flappyflap2693
@flappyflap2693 11 ай бұрын
@@imnotblindbutiloveblindfol8449 literal only time gojo couldn't react to sukuna's slashes was in domain expansion which makes attacks just exist till they hit u (donno why sukuna's domain even has a sure hit effect if it's open...)
@donnalimbrick9996
@donnalimbrick9996 11 ай бұрын
I have a few issues with Gojo's death. First, don't the six eyes let gojo both read the flow of cursed energy as well as read cursed techniques? At least according to the wiki, so shouldn't he have been able to tell that the cursed energy put into Sukuna's last slash was more intense because of the chanting, even if he couldn't hear it? He also should've been able to see that the upcoming slash was different from Sukuna's normal dismantle shots. All that on top of Gojo being amped off of 4 black flashes makes it hard to believe Gojo wouldn't exercise any caution against Sukuna, King of Curses, the strongest sorcerer in history, the man with Jujutsu knowledge equal to himself and Kenjaku, the man who clearly stated that he'd remove Gojo's "scales". The same guy who said and demonstrated that he'd use Mahoraga to adapt to the Infinity. Gojo not caring about the slash would've been straight up stupidity and out of character given the strategic ability he showed during their fight. Now if Sukuna simply used some sort of binding vow to remove the chant for that 1 time then I have no problem with the slash being too fast for Gojo. As for the plot, anyone with a basic understanding of storytelling and manga knew that Gojo had to die, or at least couldn't beat Sukuna for the sake of the plot. Sukuna is Yuji's villain to kill, especially after her was robbed of killing Mahito. Next, I think if there was any previous evidence of a 10S user being able to tell the deepest intricacies of Mahoraga's adaptation, or at least Sukuna being able to do it, then Sukuna copying the world slash would have gone over much smoother. Lastly, Gojo getting killed off screen was simply a bad mistake. For a death so important to every aspect of the story and so many off it's characters we should have gotten something, anything, between "Gojo wins" and then he's just dead. If Gojo would have won we at least saw him using the attack the won the fight. Not that Gege is purely at fault given how stringent manga timeliness are and how he admitted to forgetting something, but it would have done more to save the fight in the communities eyes.
@1brytastic
@1brytastic 11 ай бұрын
His two slashes are the exact same just different targets. And Gojo cant react to dismantle point blank
@1brytastic
@1brytastic 11 ай бұрын
He practically died the moment 235 ended, there would have been nothing to see other than his torso falling off his body
@donnalimbrick9996
@donnalimbrick9996 11 ай бұрын
​@1brytastic Cursed techniques that require a chant use more cursed energy, which gojo would be able to see, also with the six eyes he can read cursed techniques, again according to the wiki, so he should still be able to tell they have different targets. And it's already been shown that Sukuna can use hand movements for his slashes and that the worl slash requires a chant, seeing both or either of those would have been better. Even seeing Gojo's torso slide off would have been better, instead it just cuts from him being fine to in the afterlife, which aa we've seen has not gone over well with the community.
@donnalimbrick9996
@donnalimbrick9996 11 ай бұрын
​@@1brytasticAlso I agree, since only Kashimo who was made of electricity at the time has dodge a slash.
@Sparkingification
@Sparkingification 11 ай бұрын
The only problem truly with Gojo not moving out of the way is, the very previous chapter it's said that every sorcerer without exception produces a sort of "spark" before a powerful technique, this is solidified with all the previous chapter where, for example, Megumi just doing the hand gesture for mahoraga before summoning him put every opponent at guard, now if Gojo saw the spark, you know, he has six eyes, there's no way for him not to see it, why wouldn't the fastest sorcerer in existance fucking dodge? Also, the fact that we don't know Sukuna's true Cursed Technique makes it so it doesn't have any rules, basically making it a plot devices for whatever it needs at the moment, contrary to Gojo whose techniques have been previously established, we know his rules and limitations, so we know what he can and cannot do. It wouldn't make sense if Gojo suddenly started yapping with Cursed Speech, but it "kinda makes sense" for sukuna to keep pulling this things because we don't know what he's truly capable of, and that's just a form of lazy writting, just like what happened with Madara's case. I'm not arguing if Gojo was stronger than Sukuna or viceversa, because CE is not a linear power system like Ki or Spiritual Pressure, it's more of a how compatible are your techniques and how you use them to defend and attack against other techniques, like Nen, so we don't know who was stronger. Maybe Sukuna with his two mouths four arms would have instantly win the domain clashes, who knows, but the way Gojo was killed is kinda meeeh...
@blu3d3vil97
@blu3d3vil97 11 ай бұрын
Never got this idea that gojo should've dodged Gojo isnt ever shown to even begin to react to the 3 slashes in the entirr fight He always had a reaction after the attack already ended
@Ryuk937
@Ryuk937 11 ай бұрын
​@@blu3d3vil97no more likely gojo can dodge but he don't bother cause of his infinity
@blu3d3vil97
@blu3d3vil97 11 ай бұрын
@@Ryuk937 u say that about an attack he has literally never dodged but always was shocked after the sttack already hit(including when it didn't hit hjm)
@Ryuk937
@Ryuk937 11 ай бұрын
@@blu3d3vil97 when was he actually shoked?
@blu3d3vil97
@blu3d3vil97 11 ай бұрын
@@Ryuk937 i swear u pple have read chapters with closed eyes 1 First dismantle sukuna uses 2 Mahoraga slash
@khalilwilson2586
@khalilwilson2586 11 ай бұрын
It doesn’t make sense Gojo wouldn’t know the type of slash sukuna was throwing. From jjk0 we know his 6E sees CE on an atomic level and can perceive a technique perfectly, Miguel says this. So after seeing the Mahoroga slash, he should’ve know what sukuna was doing. The only way to be okay with the outcome is to accept that Gojo is an idiot
@theninetailsslayer1939
@theninetailsslayer1939 11 ай бұрын
I mean, he would no reason to think that Sukuna would suddenly be able to cut through infinity like Mahoraga, especially not after he just got hit by Purple. I feel like he did see it, but was confident in his infinity blocking it. I mean Gojo is know for being pretty confident.
@khalilwilson2586
@khalilwilson2586 11 ай бұрын
@@theninetailsslayer1939known for being confident, not stupid. Two chapters before he saw what mahoroga did and his 6E should’ve noticed it was different. They didn’t and we have to just accept he was off guard instead of having intent to kill like he did in UV. He went from “I’ll put you in a place worst than death” to “I hit the purple lol I win”.
@theninetailsslayer1939
@theninetailsslayer1939 11 ай бұрын
@@khalilwilson2586 Think about like this: Sukuna's slashes are pretty fast. Gojo would have had to seen the slash coming, and first thought would have been, " Oh, my infinity will block it". Then he would take a closer look and notice something odd about it, connect it with Mahoraga, and still move out of the way. Add in the fact that he was caught off guard and I feel like it makes sense in my opinion.
@grey5751
@grey5751 11 ай бұрын
​@@theninetailsslayer1939 It's flimsy _with_ him being caught off guard, it doesn't work _at all_ without that. Flimsy is acceptable, though. Gojo's ridiculous, sure, but he was still human.
@khalilwilson2586
@khalilwilson2586 11 ай бұрын
@@theninetailsslayer1939 it doesn’t make sense that he was caught off guard if he’s already on black gash high where his senses are heightened and he literally just saw mahoroga do it 5 minutes ago. In any other series we can recognize that strong fighters can perceive things fast and instantly but when it comes to this fight “oh well guess he didn’t recognize it” yall don’t hear yourselves.
@SemekiIzuio
@SemekiIzuio 11 ай бұрын
Im suprised no one has mentioned how Sukuna was given everything about Gojo kit while Angel failed to give any information to Gojo about Sukuna.
@artsandgoodies4653
@artsandgoodies4653 11 ай бұрын
His death was okay, the biggest problem for me is gojo glazing sukuna. That moment was wasted potential with how much he could reflect on. This sukuna glazing was worse when kashimo did the exact same thing, its repetitive and just one example of wasted potential. Also i think it would have been better if sukuna landed a black flash before the sudden cut. At least give us a crumb that things change. Compare it to jogo where we clearly saw the killing move set up before the sudden death.
@limkenny1
@limkenny1 11 ай бұрын
once this fight gets animated, I'm sure Gojo's death will be better and fill in the gap between Gojo's supposed win to his death
@itsabelia
@itsabelia 11 ай бұрын
i dont think you realize how long from now that is going to be
@yadafty7671
@yadafty7671 11 ай бұрын
I dont get your comment. JJK is not that long. Plus the anime is super popular so they would immeaditely start making the next one. @companyman422
@bossgrew7969
@bossgrew7969 11 ай бұрын
6:45 I think it’s consistent that he didn’t move out the way bc he hasn’t really dodged the attacks the whole fight. Earlier mahoraga cut his arm off, which was unexpected. So it makes sense he didn’t see this slash coming either
@Grayson-Winchester
@Grayson-Winchester 11 ай бұрын
I honestly thought Gojo would end up winning but be severely nerfed. There's no way he'd take on Kenjaku, the merger and the foreign countries that will attack Japan as powerful as he was.
@flappyflap2693
@flappyflap2693 11 ай бұрын
that'd genuinely work
@xebec995
@xebec995 11 ай бұрын
That would be trash
@boredomkiller99
@boredomkiller99 11 ай бұрын
Yeah my idea is Gojo would either suffer too much brain damage despite winning, or loss from the brain damage so it disabled his technique and forcing him to tap out but weakening Sukuna enough that it is more realistic for the others This would also force Gojo to have to learn how to keep be without being the strongest and see how he adapts to having to be support. Instead of Chapter Sukuna doesn't just instantly kill everyone in a chapter that doesn't make sense outside of saving like Higuruma since he interests him
@dennisd3130
@dennisd3130 11 ай бұрын
I felt like it was a good ending imo. Since this chapter was from Gojo’s pov, it makes sense why his death felt sudden. Because the world cutting slash is something that you can’t really see and earlier in the fight gojo couldn’t see sukunas regular slashes the only reason he didn’t get hit was bc of his infinity. So it makes sense that he didn’t see it and suddenly ends up in that in between world or whatever. And how sukuna got that world cutting slash wasn’t an ass pull imo as well because angel stated that sukuna only needs to see something once in order to copy it and when mahoraga adapted the 2nd time, he saw sukuna saw that adaptation and noticed that he could apply expanding the ct target to his ct. it’s stated multiple times that he knows true jujutsu
@autisticbluesloth5244
@autisticbluesloth5244 11 ай бұрын
his slashes are visible thogh, like it distorts the air
@LDN_ZaZa
@LDN_ZaZa 11 ай бұрын
​@@autisticbluesloth5244I mean, reacting to distorted air is still incredibly difficult, Gojo himself set the presedence for this as hollow purple has been state multiple times to be an "imaginary" orb of destruction
@autisticbluesloth5244
@autisticbluesloth5244 11 ай бұрын
he has six eyes@@LDN_ZaZa
@Melody-bp4tu
@Melody-bp4tu 11 ай бұрын
@@autisticbluesloth5244and yet he still has never reacted to cleave, the six eyes just can’t track cleave because of the inability to see it and because of how fast it moves
@TylerWantAShotty
@TylerWantAShotty 11 ай бұрын
Gojo wasn't supposed to win in the gameplay, so he got offed in the cutscene
@NoteFlakez
@NoteFlakez 11 ай бұрын
I hope they don't do yuta dirty I need to see him fight max power
@zeref151x3
@zeref151x3 11 ай бұрын
gojo with the six eyes couldn’t tell that sukuna was cooking up an insanely more powerful slash? that just seems hard to believe
@brandonjablasone7544
@brandonjablasone7544 8 ай бұрын
Wait to you read that make can dodge sukuna slashes.
@rennenb
@rennenb 11 ай бұрын
Let’s go I’m part of the 5%🔥🔥🔥, love your content you have great takes on the series and I think a collab is No Op or Broken Ronin would be so dope
@leonaise7546
@leonaise7546 11 ай бұрын
One more point to had in regards to the 3rd question: If Gojo had won & killed Sukuna, we wouldn’t have gotten the Kashimo x Sukuna conversation both IRL & in the afterlife. Kashimo’s character arc would’ve just been left unfinished cuz remember, Kashimo’s SOLE reason for being in the modern day is to FIGHT SUKUNA & LEARN about strength, & love. When he finally got his conversation with Sukuna, we see another satisfied smile from Kashimo this time(the first one was Gojo’s smile).
@ahmadkazan5473
@ahmadkazan5473 11 ай бұрын
Leaving it unfinished would've beeen better than whatever gege did.
@boredomkiller99
@boredomkiller99 11 ай бұрын
I mean Kashimo functional doesn't matter after the Hakari fight with how he was written
@bashcarti4075
@bashcarti4075 10 ай бұрын
Wrong you read it all wrong. Kashimo asked kenjaku who is the strongest he knew and that was sukuna if gojo beat sukuna kashimo would’ve changed to wanting to fight gojo
@MrKidault1
@MrKidault1 10 ай бұрын
​@@bashcarti4075exactly I don't know why ppl make it out that kashimo has like a vendetta against sukuna. His ultimate goal was to fight the strongest, the only reason why he wanted to fight sukuna that bad was coz kenjaku told him he was. If gojo had beaten sukuna, that would've ultimately made gojo the indisputable strongest, hence kashimo not rushing out to fight sukuna during the 1 month skip
@bramvanderbolt4943
@bramvanderbolt4943 10 ай бұрын
Nice video
@quichee737
@quichee737 11 ай бұрын
so sukunas cleave was basically attacking gojo from the inside instead of attacking from the outside thats actually so cool
@1brytastic
@1brytastic 11 ай бұрын
Nah, that would be cool but nah lol.😂 Imagine Gojo is on a piece of paper and a regular dismantle is on that same paper now imagine the paper folding infinitely to stop it from reaching gojo. Thats infinity, now lets put Gojo on that same paper and make him defend space dismantle, he cant. Space dismantle tears the paper instead of going through that space.
@quichee737
@quichee737 11 ай бұрын
@@1brytastic wait thats even cooler lol
@brandonjablasone7544
@brandonjablasone7544 8 ай бұрын
@@1brytastichuh the attack travel it is not instantaneous as you think it is. Newest chapter show this. All in all bad writing
@blackreaper378
@blackreaper378 11 ай бұрын
Gojo dead = no problem 👍🏻 Gojo dead, Sukuna wasn't going all out(apparently), Sukuna heals his injuries and and comes back stronger with a better slash, main cast drastically weaker than top 2 = big problem
@swagintonthe420ish2
@swagintonthe420ish2 11 ай бұрын
Honestly the only way the good guy's win is the power of friendship wich sucks jjk could have been so much better
@theninetailsslayer1939
@theninetailsslayer1939 11 ай бұрын
Honestly, I loved how everything was handled. From Gojo being supported by everyone before the fight, to the fight itself, and his moment in the afterlife. Really, I'm just glad Gojo himself was able to have fun and enjoy a fight against someone like him before his demise.
@Psychoanalyze
@Psychoanalyze 11 ай бұрын
I personally found Gojo to be the part of series that got me hooked and interested, but I don't find his death to at all acceptable, the fact that sukuna even used maha, just felt weird, I'd rather have just seen sukuna find a way to adapt himself, but knowing that sukuna needed a special circumstance to get the winning edge when gojo could've just avoided it, just seems like a desperation attempt to kill him 💀 But as for the story, I'm not very interested in the rest, like whoever dies, wins or does what doesn't really seem to matter much, to me it feels like the story has already ended and we're just reading specials
@1brytastic
@1brytastic 11 ай бұрын
@@Psychoanalyzethats kinda sad 😭
@ExrialHD
@ExrialHD 11 ай бұрын
@@Psychoanalyzegojo was and forever will be a side char and will never be relevant to the story compared to Yuji. Story wise gojo winning would be dog and literally just make the whole cast useless and would defeat gojos dream of the new gen surpassing him
@jaycubayo
@jaycubayo 11 ай бұрын
@@PsychoanalyzeDamn so basically you’re saying because you chose not to be interested in any other characters the story no longer has no depth for you. It’s a shame your favorite character got done dirty ngl, I was really satisfied with how Nanami’s story and end was handled but it seems like every other character apart from him got done extremely dirty by Gege’s writing. Even fan favorites 😭
@Psychoanalyze
@Psychoanalyze 11 ай бұрын
@jaycubayo no that's what I'm saying, I like many other characters, I'm just saying the story just doesn't feel the same, gojo and sukuna were the all the hype, but and all my favorite fights came from those 2 characters (same with the disaster curses)
@salamander6361
@salamander6361 11 ай бұрын
If this really is the end of Gojo (I have hope he'll make a comeback). Then it should have ended a different way, no way Gojo would just tank the last slash, he's supposed to be a genius no reason to take it head on. If he didn't notice it then whats the point of the six eyes if it cant even notice the build up CE, if Sukuna can recognize Gojo building up to a red then surely Gojo with the SIX EYES can do the same. After the purple Sukuna should have started going into his true form, with himself healed, that then makes it more believable that he's able to take out Gojo, if anything change it so reverting gives back use of his domain so it gives a concrete ending to the fight as there would be no way for Gojo at this point to counter, make the area of effect small so its more effective and that would have been fine. (apart from the airport character assassination) but for the end of the fight it works IMO. Gojo wins the battle but Sukuna wins the war.
@MM-uh5co
@MM-uh5co 11 ай бұрын
I like what it represents overall. Every sorcerer was always relying on Gojo when there was a big challenge. Something Gojo himself realized inside his goal of needing other strong sorcerers to change the Jujutsu world. Now the main cast has to face the consequences of relying to much on Gojo
@RennHans
@RennHans 11 ай бұрын
What sukuna this entire time is been trying to strengthen himself, Taking over peoples bodies, plotting To steal cursed Techniques and copying chosos stance. Overall Sukuna tries to grow stronger, wherever possible. No contrast that to gojo who never made another technique since he killed Toji other than Domain expansion, which was necessary, and the one he did, at the very end of his fight against sukuna. He spent his time instead of training himself, training others. We end it will be sukuna, who spent all this time growing stronger, versus the people Gojo spent all the time growing
@dallas8909
@dallas8909 11 ай бұрын
I loved your analogy of Gojos death man I would love to see your thoughts on some other characters death with the same rules
@jarelmontes7583
@jarelmontes7583 11 ай бұрын
I just hope there is another training arc bcuz there’s no way anyone can defeat Sakuna with it making sense….
@yaboisoe178
@yaboisoe178 11 ай бұрын
Who cares gege gonna cook regardless
@jarelmontes7583
@jarelmontes7583 11 ай бұрын
@@yaboisoe178 lmao true but damn I want it to not feel like an asspull 😂
@justsaiyan3294
@justsaiyan3294 11 ай бұрын
I heard the manga is ending in the next 25-30 chapters. So a training arc seems unlikely. It's either gonna be an asspull, sudden power up or some trickery by Kenjaku to kill Sukuna.
@jarelmontes7583
@jarelmontes7583 11 ай бұрын
@@justsaiyan3294 Yeah well that’s gonna suck. It’s gonna have a bad ending like Demon Slayer
@newdeoterent1340
@newdeoterent1340 11 ай бұрын
honestly i think its better that Gojo died in this fight but i was just upset by how it happened. I know it was foreshadowed way back before shibuya that the 10 cursed summons could kill Gojo, but in my mind it was a fight between Gojo and Sukuna, and it wasnt won off of either of their own merits but instead of off Megumis hacks. What i think would be cooler is if Sukuna had an awakening about his technique that made him realize it wasnt slicing that he was doing, but instead separating matter and if applied differently he could separate Gojo from his cursed technique and beat him that way. Then that would set up Itadori beating him because he is one of the only strong characters that doesnt have a cursed technique. the other avenue that i could see it Itadori getting Sukuna's technique (it was stated that he could get the technique of Sukuna because he was the vessel for so long) and using it on him to seperate him from his own technique and straight up jumping him with everybody. or seperating him from Megumi and then Megumi and Itadori jump him with Mahoraga and his own technique.
@FABDY-rn2ut
@FABDY-rn2ut 11 ай бұрын
He could have used Domain Amplification against the dimension cutting slahes. Because it doesn't matter the nature of the technique but the cursed energy output. And since Higuruma can match the output of dismantle so can Gojo
@AstroCS2
@AstroCS2 11 ай бұрын
Kusakabe did it too, lmao.
@FABDY-rn2ut
@FABDY-rn2ut 11 ай бұрын
@@AstroCS2 Yeah. Seems like Gojo is not as strong as he was described but rather have the same CE output as an average sorcerer. Or just Gege messed Up with the power scaling. Because all those guys should get one shotted by Sukuna like he almost did with Ryu. Moreover they were all in a 200 meters radius at some point so a domain expansion could have instantaniously wipped out all of them.
@FABDY-rn2ut
@FABDY-rn2ut 11 ай бұрын
Just thought about something again. Those guys got less damage than Mahoraga when he fought Sukuna. How does it even make sense. Simple domain gotta be overpowered unlike what we thought
@AstroCS2
@AstroCS2 11 ай бұрын
@@FABDY-rn2ut There is a problem with that though. Kenjaku was able to get rid of Yuki's simple domain very easily. And, Sukuna is stronger than Kenjaku, and Kusakabe/Higuruma are weaker than Yuki. So, how does a stronger person, fail to do to a weaker person, what someone else did? We know Sukuna is more skilled than Kenjaku so it should not be a problem for him
@NoteFlakez
@NoteFlakez 11 ай бұрын
He should either just do the chapter and fill it in. Or give us a flash back of what happened because it did feel empty him confirming he skipped a chapter explains it all
@chromtastic2092
@chromtastic2092 11 ай бұрын
It's one panel that wasn't shown it would have changed nothing 💀 where 235 ends is where 236 basically ends gojo and sukuna are both in the same position there's not really much to add to that
@NoteFlakez
@NoteFlakez 11 ай бұрын
@chromtastic2092 it's not about things changing 💀 its about the explanation no one talking about things changing
@youderpy2795
@youderpy2795 11 ай бұрын
JJK story has been extremely mid to me past shibuya but that’s a story for another day. At this point I’ve only stuck around for the characters, and Gege killing off Gojo was definitely shocking but fell flat to me. The only thing I really took walking away from this was how much better Nanami send off was when he talking about the direction you turn once you go to the afterlife. He was going to choose a new life because he hated it so much but Hibara made him turn the other way to Yuji to accept it for what it was. Gege Cooked with Nanami man.
@ExrialHD
@ExrialHD 11 ай бұрын
No way the my kiddie academia kid is talking about jjk. Its clear as day this arc is better then shibuya and will break the internet once animated
@ahmadkazan5473
@ahmadkazan5473 11 ай бұрын
Perfect preparation ulling game went hard though,everything was peak and followingshibuya consistently till sukuna possesing megumi for free and getting a violence free pass despite clearly having malecious intent and it went downhill from there.
@ExrialHD
@ExrialHD 11 ай бұрын
@@ahmadkazan5473 not according to manga and anime hypekeep coping gojo meat rider. There’s a reason why it’s the hottest manga out that’s not blue lock
@youderpy2795
@youderpy2795 11 ай бұрын
@@ahmadkazan5473 Well when I say “mid” it’s like I enjoyed half and hated half of the stuff post Shibuya. I enjoyed all the Sukuna stuff since he carried the manga for me then. I loved the Maki stuff until Naoya came back, the ending just made me not care for Maki as much anymore.
@christophisto3268
@christophisto3268 11 ай бұрын
​@@ExrialHD chill out you dork
@rogerleo4654
@rogerleo4654 11 ай бұрын
I felt mixed about it. I wanted my boy Yuji to shine and have him show Sukuna he was the real Jujutsu Kaisen all this time, but i literally shed a tear when i turned to Gojo's page, and I'm not one to cry over manga or movies and what not. I loved his character, but i do understand Gege needed to open some space for the story to flow more smoothly. Loved the video ❤
@paulmaloney4387
@paulmaloney4387 11 ай бұрын
I'm honestly disappointed with how Gojo's death was handled. Sidelining him throughout the Culling Games just to finally bring him back and then immediately kill him seems very rushed. If I was the author I would've brought back Gojo from the prison realm with a serious handicap (he's super old, he has no cursed energy, etc) so he would've had to fit into a more mentor-like role without seeing combat
@1brytastic
@1brytastic 11 ай бұрын
Hell nah man, that would’ve been kinda ass for his character imo
@bestgoalhighlights8021
@bestgoalhighlights8021 10 ай бұрын
Gojo's death was bad because the author chose to skip how it happened for dramatic effect.
@Blackmustache870
@Blackmustache870 10 ай бұрын
Off screening or not doesn't effect anything. What bebefit is there in u seeing the slash?
@ashtonderojas821
@ashtonderojas821 11 ай бұрын
I think the anime will adapt gojo's death but for Gege imo needs to write a 235.5 chapter to at least show how Sakuna to get the dub or at least pulled it off. Beyond that I'm liking where the story is going.
@yaboisoe178
@yaboisoe178 11 ай бұрын
Nah gege can continue too cook without going backwards
@floppa731
@floppa731 11 ай бұрын
he isnt cooking he already burnt the pan@@yaboisoe178
@yaboisoe178
@yaboisoe178 11 ай бұрын
@@floppa731 in yo opinion he did imo he’s cooking 🤷🏽‍♂️ next
@astrodoggie3000
@astrodoggie3000 11 ай бұрын
Bro earned 4k subs in a day w Manz keep on the grind to 100k
@baligong3592
@baligong3592 11 ай бұрын
In my opinion, Gojo doesn't have to die. Why couldn't Gege have Sukuna beat Gojo and left him alive, and go on to beat the MCs? It's stated in the Story that Gojo is strong enough to give a Boost to Everyone's Stats by simply existing. It's also stated that Negative Emotion is what feeds Cursed Energy. Why not have Sukuna break Gojo's Psyche? Like that we can finally have a Character Arc that makes Gojo think: "is he Satoru Gojo because he's the Strongest, or is he the Strongest because he's Satoru Gojo?"
@tarigshepherd4356
@tarigshepherd4356 11 ай бұрын
Because it doesn’t make sense lol gojo had to die
@bobjones9385
@bobjones9385 11 ай бұрын
What in Sukunas character makes you think he would defeat someone and let them live? When has Sukuna ever done this?
@dungeonashu2987
@dungeonashu2987 11 ай бұрын
@@bobjones9385 they're delusional, you should expect ton of em, especially in this fandom.
@hawuyosafat9047
@hawuyosafat9047 11 ай бұрын
and that is why you're not a manga author. you've no sense of a good story at all
@baligong3592
@baligong3592 11 ай бұрын
Sukuna is willing to save someone if it means it'll benefit him, like Megumi. Sukuna knows everything Gojo said to Yuji because Sukuna is always Listening. - Awasaka and Ogami in Ch. 96 mentions how due to Gojo being born, Gojo changed the Jujutsu World. Sukuna is inside of Yuji. - Gojo states Curse Energy and Power increases with Emotions or Negative Emotions, which was why he told Yuji to watch Movies. Sukuna is inside of Yuji. Why couldn't Sukuna put 2 and 2 together and thought Why not break Gojo and keep him alive, making a Husk of his Former Self in front of everyone else. It can perhaps increase Sukuna's Power while making the rest Hopeless cause their Hero is broken mentally. - Also, he learned how to bypass Infinity, so Gojo is no danger to him if Infinity was the only thing stopping him from even harming Gojo. Like Mentioned: it also allows for the whole turn back around to what Geto said to him. "Are you Satoru Gojo because you're the Strongest, or are you the Strongest because you're Satoru Gojo?".
@Jason-rl9gf
@Jason-rl9gf 11 ай бұрын
Mere I love you man but let's just analyse this whole sequence of events. Gojo came right off a black flash high and he got the six eyes and then we see man laying on the floor with his body cut in half next chap? let that sink in, a black flash high ontop of the six eyes and he still could not see a world cutting slash heading his way nah man.
@6extaEspada
@6extaEspada 11 ай бұрын
To me the way Gojo died made sense, the main critique as said in the video was at the end of chap 235 Gojo looked in good shape + even the narrator said he won but then chap 236 begins with Gojo in the afterlife, there was no buildup to his death but honestly just one panel of Gojo getting caught off guard by the slash is enough to solve the issue
@Nandomo00
@Nandomo00 11 ай бұрын
it wasn't the narrator, it was Kusakabe who said "Gojo won"
@6extaEspada
@6extaEspada 11 ай бұрын
@@Nandomo00 my bad, thanks for the info 👌🏼
@CamilSongZ
@CamilSongZ 10 ай бұрын
I still need to know WHY the SIX EYES were so useless at that time ? How Gojo couldn’t see the slash coming from a weaker Sukuna since the six eyes are supposed to see all CE amount… Gojo was almost at his best and couldn’t see Sukuna performs a CT who was that big ? I had no problem with Gojo dying but that was clearly like a plot armor.
@KazuDiabolis
@KazuDiabolis 11 ай бұрын
i hated it at first. but now i think it's a beautiful & fitting end for the strongest (i still think he's the strongest bc Sukuna used Maho to cut through infinity)
@Radamanthys4616
@Radamanthys4616 11 ай бұрын
For me it is really hard to think of a battle anime that goes on without tragic mejor loses like gojo here, it would be nice to explore an alternative future where he doesnt die, what would happen then? All vs kenjaku fused with tengen?
@saints4px
@saints4px 11 ай бұрын
It was beautiful. An arrogant 28 year old who thought he was untouchable was killed by the smarter thousand year old curse with a great plan that he even gave him clues to in the begining. Counter point, if Gojo tricked him and is using Yukis soul book to come back that would still be PEAK!!!
@alexjohnson3994
@alexjohnson3994 11 ай бұрын
Bro I haven’t been subbed in so long. I’m part of that 5% now😎
@bren45
@bren45 11 ай бұрын
nd sukana literally went after megumi basically gojos son nd student bro raised him nd taught him whatever he knew ab his technique tbh its j crazy gege didnt have gojo show any anger in that
@rishavraj6973
@rishavraj6973 7 ай бұрын
I went through it 4-5 times and it was complete and utter bullsh**. Full of things making no sense and then the duffer airport scene completely destroying gojos insane credibility which u yourself made. We can all understand why it happened but should have been done better
@Nyfebtw
@Nyfebtw 11 ай бұрын
W vid 🔥
@lordquastheonly
@lordquastheonly 11 ай бұрын
The fight was poorly written but fan boys will just say “you’re just mad gojo lost🤓”
@flappyflap2693
@flappyflap2693 11 ай бұрын
fraudkuna fans will say that
@slimeballsoul
@slimeballsoul 2 ай бұрын
7:30 imo it makes no sense regardless bc gojo alr had knowledge of mahoraga adapting to ANYTHING and prior to being go/jo he knew maho had alr adapted to infinity and saw the wheel of adaptation on sukunas head after that so he shouldve known at the very least that the attack would be able to harm him even after he got off that purple, in no way does it make sense for him not to move unless it blitzed him
@georgitoledov2569
@georgitoledov2569 10 ай бұрын
There wasn't a snowball's chance in hell that Sukuna would have one this fight if it wasn't for the 20 asspulls. Gojo actually beat him and stopped short of crushing his head to save Megumi. Gojo should have just killed Sukuna and ended the manga now they will need even more asspulls and power of friendship to beat sukuna
@diamantemrobinson
@diamantemrobinson 11 ай бұрын
I do believe it's still a bit of a contentious thing. Mahoraga had already adapted to infinity further adaptation is crazy especially when we know Sukuna's slashes are simple and easy to adapt to however Mahaorga hadn't fully and truly adapted to them. Gojo manipulates the fabric of space so cutting the space he exist in literally makes no sense what so ever it also means that when Mahaorga did Gojo should've saw and learned what happened in that instance. I believe Gojo should've won the fight the get jumped by Sukuna, Uraume, and Kenjaku but the students still couldn't intervene because Gojo is at his best alone. Gojo gets weaker the students join in and they start to lose and die.
@spoonow8979
@spoonow8979 11 ай бұрын
i have no problems with gojo dying because we all knew he would have to die in order for the story to actually progress and for the rest of the characters to develop, but it just doesn’t make sense that gojo off of a black flash amp, with the 6 eyes how does he not see the build up of cursed energy in sukuna? How does he not have the speed when he’s been known as the fastest sorcerer? I know gojo has an ego on him but he was taking sukuna fully seriously so idk if I could necessarily say it’s in character in that moment for gojo to just try to tank it. Like if anyone in the series should have known better than to just sit there or be caught off guard it should be gojo. So fine with him dying and losing to sukuna, but I’m not buying that he wasn’t fast enough or that he was careless enough to just basically let it happen
@OccupiedMuffins
@OccupiedMuffins 11 ай бұрын
I still think it was kinda bad, I still dont understand how sukuna was using mahoraga without mahoraga being out. How was mahoraga taking hits that sukuna/megumi was taking? Especially considering he was never tamed? It seems kind of ass pull tbh. Plus he was offscreened which is such a shitty way to kill a beloved character no matter what, regardless of who the author feels about it. Now story wise and him being killed off purely as a device so others can grow, is great and im glad for it but I just wish it was done better. Gege is incredibly vague with some stuff and also incredibly specific with other stuff and its incredibly annoying at times. He just doesnt explain stuff and over explains other stuff.
@Blackmustache870
@Blackmustache870 11 ай бұрын
It's stated that the main source of mahoragas adaptation is the wheel, which sukuna had put beforehand. It's a weird concept that just got brought up in the yorozu fight but it didn't contradict anything. For taming mahoraga, it looks like sukuna tamed him off screen because he's strong enough to. I think the benefit for this was for readers to theories on how sukuna would beat gojo and be surprised when it happened. Offscreening the character isn't that bad especially when u see what's happened in tge other character deaths. It fits with the story. Junpei was transfiguration and was left in pain crying for help, nanamis whole torso was blown off.
@greatminikwu9089
@greatminikwu9089 11 ай бұрын
Why did gojo heal with rct wasn’t his output restored and we’ve seen hakari heal his stomach and the story expressly say rct users weakness is the head !!!
@justsaiyan3294
@justsaiyan3294 11 ай бұрын
Gojo dying was always going to happen. But the Sukuna vs Gojo fight didn't feel right after the domain battle cuz it seemed like Sukuna was cheating by using someone else's technique. Even though Gojo said that he was not sure of winning even without Sukuna having ten Shadows technique, I would have been satisfied with the fight if Sukuna defeated Gojo with his own strength. I thought this was a fight to see who is actually the strongest. But clearly it wasn't.
@xebec995
@xebec995 11 ай бұрын
Sukuna is strongest
@justsaiyan3294
@justsaiyan3294 11 ай бұрын
@@xebec995 the strongest wouldn't be needing assist. The strongest would take on the challenge.
@xebec995
@xebec995 11 ай бұрын
@@justsaiyan3294 read what gojo said in chapter 236
@justsaiyan3294
@justsaiyan3294 11 ай бұрын
@@xebec995 I have read it. But that still doesn't answer *Why would the strongest king of curses not defeat an opponent weaker than him with his own strength?*
@xebec995
@xebec995 11 ай бұрын
@@justsaiyan3294 if u read 236 then you should know who is the strongest. Your question is pointless.
@PhantomEmperor
@PhantomEmperor 11 ай бұрын
There’s a few things to call in to question about how gojo died while you did touch on the chant there’s other things that need to be said. We know from the kashimo fight and the latest chapters with kusakabe that sukunas world slashes require a chant or possibly a binding vow to launch. Then it’s explained about how it needs to be charged so then this calls into question sukunas condition. We see sukuna missing limbs, slowed rct, can’t use domain amplification, can’t use DE, extremely damaged and in general lowered CE amount from the whole fight. So how in his condition did he have enough strength to launch a slash that could instantly kill gojo when he was tanking his domain and instantly healing? Then the other question is shouldn’t gojo know something is wrong ? since it was established in 235 every CT has an ignition upon use which allowed sukuna to tell the difference between gojo using red and blue. There’s that on top of gojos six eyes there’s absolutely no reason sukuna should have got the attack off when gojo should have been able to see the ignition and sukuna charging up. So the only logical conclusion here is like kusakabe said in recent chapters a binding vow. That’s the only way this makes sense cause otherwise it’s bad writing there’s a very good reason that it was an offscreen death as gege legit couldn’t make this believable to people looking at small details. So Gege better explain the possible binding vow sukuna used to instantly get world slash cause right now it’s bad writing. Well that or Gojo literally let him do it like an idiot which makes zero sense considering the stakes.
@theoneandonly9775
@theoneandonly9775 11 ай бұрын
For me its bad, because 2 factors ruin it 1 its offscreen. We went to gojo winning to gojo dead. It might make sense as to why the technique bypassed infinity and you gave good reasons as to why it hit in the first place but at the end of the day its speculations as to why gojo didnt dodge. We could discuss it but we will never know exactly why and thats unsatisfying 2 he regened later on anyway, wich feels like a decent way to turn the script from gojo winning. It ties to not seeing what happened but it could have been used to tip the scales and it would mean gojo took atleast that trump card away from him directly I always knew he would lose but the way it was handled is unsatisfying. There where ways to change it but offscreen wasnt it. Execusion is important and that wasnt it
@ssss8162
@ssss8162 11 ай бұрын
He's came back to life before.
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