KAMEOS: The Best or Worst Part of Mortal Kombat 1?

[@CD-fn7wd]

Warner Bros is the worst part of MK.

[@JJMC252]

Facts

[@Lava_Lazy]

🖋️ 🔥

[@130dollasign]

😂

[@PsychicJaguar19]

This comment right here. Releasing Mk1 before it was fully complete, missing multiple features, characters not being complete, micro transactions out the ass, DLC getting cancelled, DLC costing an arm and a leg; all of that leads back to WB and the power they have over NRS.

[@SuperJJParker]

I disagree. NRS are the worst part of MK.

[@TsDviper2]

Instead of kameos they should just give every character an actual deep set of moves and specials so they dont get boring af using the same exact 2 strings over and over.

[@emmarosie7176]

That would actually take real work and effort so yea they wouldn’t do that.

[@mytwitchexist]

acting like mk11 isnt the same

[@NumbrrFive]

if they make a mk2 i hope there’s no kameos

[@naughtiousmaximus7853]

MK needs actual game developers, like proper software engineers to optimize the game and actual, PROPER, game designers. Anyone with 2 functioning brain cells can see that their most popular games are MK9 and MKX, so why not just extract what made these games good and put it in one game?

[@Nathan-bj2vz]

mk9 and mx are fan favorites but mk11 sales were miles ahead (i believe 11 sales are equal to 9 plus x) so im sure wb pushed nrs to keep the core mk gameplay slow placed unlike 9 and x

[@MC24DB]

Because MKX and MK9 don't play the same at all, 2 different fighters.

[@Nathan-bj2vz]

@@MC24DB movement in 9 and x feel much faster than 11 and 1

[@Gorgonyte]

Pre patch Johnny Lao was so broken lol

[@Etdemartes]

Kameos killed this game

[@ryanm.8720]

Fatality!

[@zcytheshock5012]

14:39 yeah man tech window Def got touched glad you mentioned that

[@Cokeboy1361]

Crazy how you didn’t start playing pro level early but you’re already considered as some the best players out there

[@ChaseEdaxRerum]

Well said Xombat, I think the general census is nobody likes the Kameos. I'm honestly ready for support to get cut and move on to the next game.

[@TheZomgDestroyer]

I completely agree with your stance on kameos, while they allow for lots of creativity, cool combos, and lots of character variations, I think too many kameo moves make things safe with little to no counter play, it’s annoying and doesn’t take much brain power. Add in ways to counter these things and I think the game would be in a better state. I personally like kameos but they need tweaking.

[@vincentvolker27]

First- you da man my dude Much love mad respect

[@Xombat]

Thank you brother, appreciate you 🙏🙏

[@dkDyno]

The fact that kham still has an invincible wakeup launcher still baffles me. Idc if its ONLY available when you're in mileena diguise, every other kameo invincible wakeup move that used to launch got their launch taken away, she needs that shit done too.

[@frogaroach]

Dude you are speaking FACTS

[@NinesFGC]

why does she still have next to no cooldown too 😭

[@frogaroach]

@@NinesFGC pay2win, just like ferra,

[@fortunefiderikumo]

@shhighgold5705 she has average cooldown,the moves that have fast cooldowm are the ambush moves,if you use her glaive,fan toss and ballroll it takes as much time to recharge as other kameos,if you use fan lift,air Sai and glow then those have fast recharge because they utility moves

[@conradabela4649]

Not to mention its also an overhead

[@ben5878]

Honestly this chaotic system wouldve worked if they just patched the game more frequently. When you nerf or buff a kameo, you do the same to all the characters who synergize with it. If they patched balance monthly, his game would've survived (and lower prices)

[@iSpitboxer]

I hated the idea at first but I love the kameos now

[@frogaroach]

I went the opposite. They felt so fun and creative at the beginning but honestly im tired of how cheap they are this point

[@mnew4582]

Bandaid to a shit game

[@aundreii151]

Simp

[@XxTheBeastLilLxX]

⁠@@frogaroachah yes, storm cell into cyrax copter at the beginning of mk1 was very creative

[@No1ANTAGON1ST]

Beast, the thing that got patched and hasnt been in the game for like a year? Great point...

[@DangerousDarko]

The people who say they like the Kameo System and that this is the most fun they've had playing fighting games, is because now they are finally winning at fighting games with a better W/L ratio because the Kameo System is huge aid to their lack of skill. I'm 32 years old and have been playing fighting games off and on for about 28 years... So I have a decent idea of how to play them. My Lil cousin who started playing MK games at MK11, has picked up MK1 Omni-Man X Jax and now can somehow be on par with my 28 years of experience compared to his off and on 5 years. That's how much of a carry Kameos are.

[@Jack_Ripper10]

Mk1 has a low skill gap

[@m0nt3xç]

so hes js better thn you😂 ths the dumbest comment i ever seen🤣🤣

[@m0nt3xç]

ths is the easiest game in the world🤣🤣 you js suck bud

[@m0nt3xç]

@@DangerousDarkoi lose to ngas dat dont even do combos😂 the game takes no skill😂 u js cant keep up tryna use tht as an excuse cs your Younger relative is better 😂

[@m0nt3xç]

@@DangerousDarkohe younger and he beat you i dont think anyone would be suprised😂

[@watcher99999]

Kameos ARE variations. It's just a pool of moves that every fighter has access to. Some fighters benefits more from having just one specific move from that pool, and others have more range of options, but everyone has access to all these options equally. Just because ermac mains refuse to switch off Janet or Sindel mains refuse to switch off tremor doesn't mean that the system itself is bad. People are just inherently lazy.

[@fortunefiderikumo]

Thats why i love Shao,he goes well with so many Kameos, I have 4 I run with him and its fun asf

[@MushaFGC]

Kameos are similar, but the huge difference is variations don't save you from unsafe moves when you overcommit. The issue is that people turn their brains off and use Kameos to cover their butts and play neutral for them. It's understandable why people are bothered by them since they carry most players.

[@CantL0ve3266]

@@MushaFGCthat’s actually not entirely true. The top tier characters were usually safe characters or plus on block characters on specials or such. Kameos are just that tbh but for the whole roster instead of select variations

[@Echelon8009]

Aoimusha is right also variations didn't give you combos of throws it's a clear 1v1 unlike cameos. You eat 20 to 30% in MK1 for getting grabbed

[@MastermindRell]

This is actually a fair hot take.

[@islandkiwi9840]

I miss the neutral aspect of my turn your turn. Nitara can dive kick forty five times in 2 seconds & I have to ease on the wave dash and guess right if he’s gon extend the flight time into fan lift. That character is what I hate the most she’s so damn safe now pair up with Ferra and Khameleon you’re actually hunting for her mistakes the whole game. Only if Johnny still had his force balls😂

[@jasongode6179]

I liked the idea of Kameos; it was just poorly executed. Maybe my controller sucks OR MY old self; but its so hard to remember all these combinations & all these timings. I cant win one match Online. Do you think having auto combo system just in the beginner Kombat league;; would help casual players like me? Also;; I think having a No Nerf version would make the game more fun for casuals. Is there Any hope for Invasions? Yeah, they added more variety;; but now..... I cannot even get 100% on any mesa!!

[@hazimhayderhazim9459]

I actually love kameos they give alot of creativity to the players I think they will be amazing if throw and armor lunchers damage is nerfed to do minimal 18% and nerf free safe mix that ferra gives I think we will have a very fun game which is very close to that hope next patches we have will do that

[@alexvalentine9397]

Teching throws online is so hard I’m honestly 3:10 on throw techs. That’s why so many have adapt to duck os into eating more damage lmao

[@unr34L-]

They’re also a complete guess if they’re gonna back throw or forward throw

[@alexvalentine9397]

@ yup you’d get foward throw 14% with Janet so ur already guessing cuz two grabs damn near 30% so u eating one for 22% and 2 for 28%

[@alexvalentine9397]

So just micro duck os

[@alexvalentine9397]

Well not even micro duck os 💀 Litteraly flawless block any next hit os and micro ducks lmao which honestly leads to death sometimes online

[@n1n9tails]

You spoke wonders @ 16:00 definitely feel like it’s more of kameo kombat

[@JosephDGuedes]

They could at least give every kameo the push block mechanic, the supreme counter play to assists

[@OfficialMeowingBusiness]

Finally a good comment💀

[@PewPewShootEmUp]

If kameos were just combo extension or light mixup it wuld have been fine the making everything safe and hard to blockables is what ruins kameos for ppl

[@ohmaddoge]

Kameos gonna be good when they add to EACH of them universal tools like F+R1 with Mavado or Jax's Kameo Grab. If they balance it right, make it spent all of your Kameo meter and part of YOUR meter for example (like Mavado's), but make these moves worth it, I think they will solve most of the problems. Remember how Spawn in MK11 was only character with armor break and then they gave it yo all character? They should do the same here

[@No1ANTAGON1ST]

I think people were scared of kameos in concept, but it just turned out to be a variation system. I think the dirt is just too much like Injustice 1, and people dont like cheap aspects of MK. It is the only bad aspect of early MKX, very cheap.

[@hewoguys2506]

Would u ever try sf6

[@user-qu1lw1sz9z]

Love or hate them the combos in this game are for sure the most creative

[@straightcaniven906]

They need to revert everything back imagine how much shit would be good rn

[@TraekWells]

I like kameos but I think they'd be MUCH better if they increased the cooldowns of the kameo meter across the board. Make them all 50% longer so we see less kameos during the match.

[@frogaroach]

The fundamentals and neutral are so much better in this game than MK11. I really hope they keep the good they brought: Throw counter Poke punish Up Block Universal Armors Dash Block Universal Launching Specials Air strings Flawless block in string Flawless block negate chip

[@ralphwarom2514]

yes. Everything else though, can go burn in the netherrealm. And the Kameos too. They can be good. But it really robbed from the main cast. Only a handful of characters feel reasonably complete.

[@MC24DB]

Kameos allow a player to play unsafe so the fundamentals are poor, neutral? What neutral? Lol

[@frogaroach]

@ thas what im saying man. Like such a great game underneath, just ruined by kameos :/

[@benyancey6454]

I feel like the devs don't even know how to test what they are putting in the game. They add 50 percent combos at launch, take them out, and then add a new kameo and 50 percent combos again. Like if they don't want em test natara ferra and actually take it out don't add it remove it and add it again like 50 times over again.

[@tonyhormiga5242]

Can't wait for the next game but will wait patiently.

[@PsychicJaguar19]

A lot to unpack with kameos. 1) This game has never been a tag team, it's a 1v1 with assists. It's still 1v1 even if you're calling another character because you don't directly control them. 2) D1 special is atrocious and if it were up to me it would only exist on hit, not make some stupid mindgame of special or not. 3) I've always thought throw combos are cool and to whoever it really bothers I say learn to tech forward every time so its not a guess and the most you're losing is 11% and most likely getting put back to neutral. I do like kameos but things could def be better, they def won't be in another MK game. I think a universal pushback like Mavado has for every kameo would be a good addition.

[@frogaroach]

They should have left mk11's feature where you couldn't special cancel d1 if the opponent flawless blocks.

[@fortunefiderikumo]

@@frogaroach that barely solves anything lol,how many times do you flawless block a d1?

[@frogaroach]

@ you can do it pretty consistently off reversals and staggers with practice. Its why flawlessblock OS was strong in mk11

[@fortunefiderikumo]

@@frogaroach the flawless block window in this game is tighter than mk11,so good being consistent with it

[@alexvalentine9397]

Now that Lao, Tanya are nerfed being them Goro refills or health buff fr. I’m not shutting tf till I see it

[@alexvalentine9397]

No one remembers when Lao invulnerable launched between gaps. Lmao that got nerfed so fast into straight knockdown

[@isaiahacevedo541]

Yeah I think you put it well kameo gameplay designs were kinda horrid in this game, like on paper they can be nice and can be fun at times but also can encourage very braindead/scrubby play as you mentioned so I don’t think they were implemented well. I’m a Nitara main and while she did become good with the buffs and ferra it’s the most braindead she’s ever played and I actually don’t really have fun with her anymore or feel like I’m earning wins, Khameleon she at least had to be a bit more cautious back then and her dive kick was still unsafe but now yikes. Balance in general not just kameos is horrid for this game.

[@roul3688]

I don’t like the ambush attacks that make blocked moves safe. Should be all summons or like Movado where your opponent has to be vulnerable

[@gw7911]

I think part of the problem with kameos is they their moves don’t have enough nuance. They should really have meterless meter burn versions of their moves. A full bar of kameo meter really isn’t enough for what some of them do. Like khameleon for example has moves that in the past cost meter to do. Mileenas overhead ball roll cost meter, moves like the jade glaive always cost meter, even kitanas fan only lifted you up from the ground if you meter burned it, other wise you’d stay grounded. Also none of the characters are fully complete. As far as I know no one can do a full combo on their own without a kameo. Mileena being the exception but even she has to spend a bar. Kitana almost can but spending a bar doesn’t really get her anywhere unless she uses a kameo.

[@ed4wg380]

theres alot of characters that can do combos on their own without kameos, like rain, scorp, sub zero, etc. but ya some should cost meter

[@StankyTurtleMK]

Hot take: they never should have re-reverted cyrax's side helicopter cooldown. I say this as a baraka main and i just feel like cyrax completes him in a way that no other kameo can. If the cooldown was slightly longer, i feel it would be fun and not to busted.

[@JaeEunA]

“Kameo more than the character” honestly I like the crazy shit but yeah, it’s like what character uses the best Kameo the most optimally. I wouldn’t mind Kameos doing crazy shit if characters themselves were super interesting with fun tools.

[@true128]

They should have had a universal way to counter kameo calls if you know they are gonna call it and the movado push block should be universal and no armour move should let you call kameo if it’s blocked

[@benyancey6454]

I feel like kameos just lack interactivity and depth. So often it just comes down to do i have kameo, then mash kameo. U cant guess right on defense on kano knives or kano ball or granades or glaive there just isnt an option to do anything. If there was a way to call out a kameo call and u win the interaction even if u could get hit for calling it out this game would actually make u think on defense and offense.

[@alexvalentine9397]

Tremor, Kano, Janet, mavado, khammy are probable the best balanced kameos imo. I’d say Goro but his refill time makes him unplayable in this meta

[@rbelljr29]

I never liked the kameo system..but I think alot of this could've been avoided, if the kameos were assigned to characters from the start. This way, each one could've been crafted to compliment the character they were paired with, instead of NRS trying to go jack of all trades for each one. Also...Stryker, just from a pure astheic standpoint, is visually jarring for this game. The fuck is a 90's cop even doing here?! 😂😂

[@HMFOG]

You should lowkey do a shao guide, because shao be kinda silly

[@Xombat]

Made one a few weeks ago, Hope you enjoy 🙏🙏

[@mnew4582]

The moment when you realize you're not a fan of the content creator... you don't even know what he's put out 😂😂😂

[@Loooop918]

Poke special is the main thing stopping this game from being enjoyable, i feel like it violates the most fundamental aspect of fighting games.

[@jermwormzzzmk1]

**baraka players crying in the wind 💨 😂

[@mnew4582]

They want Baraka "to be good" aka brain dead 🤣

[@Saber_fgc]

somehow, both

[@alexvalentine9397]

Not playing till then infinites and bugs get patched. Sector fb. And Goro needs buffs.

[@dante4111]

Exactly, you have more problems against the kameo than against the character and I have not understood why since MK9 we do not have an MK simply focused on the character without variations or kameos etc. When they said that there would be no more variations I said yes thank you and they are bringing the kameos which in essence are the same as a variation of skills... really?

[@NE_8A_DabJr]

Honestly the kameos make the game have plenty of opportunities about creativity but unfortunately the balancing is dog water

[@ed4wg380]

kameos make the game less fun and less competitive. they arent very creative in their implementation, and i would have preferred tag based fighting or atleast kameos restricted to unique nuetral tools, fun gimmicks, and combo extensions, not a braindead feature where you hit a button and make an unsafe move safe and then turn playing like an idiot into a mindgame

[@douevenrow9023]

All i gotta say is i dont agree with ambush kameos. If a kameo has an ambush then it should be combo extension. Otherwise theres no sense of this being a fighting game at all. In no world should someone be able to do something stupid and unsafe and not only keep them safe, but at advantage. Shit leaves me irate.

[@fern5123]

We all know how crazy mkx was but they should just improve on that gameplay and If they wanna try new things do it as extra game modes, we need LEGIT extra game modes anyways. whether its NRS or WB please stop trying to reinvent and start refining the gameplay, itll save you from using up resources to solve the problems you've solved in prior releases

[@RoaringRory80]

IMO 2 v2 should have been a mode or a option. Not the game itself.

[@davidk4860]

All they had to do was fix mk11. Make flawless blocks like mk1. Break instead of breakaway. Take krushing blows and variation system out. Personally gey rid of duck os too. Cause no skill.

[@cg41006]

I like e kameo because was something new different and fun but they need to have better characters kameo balanced all mk games same always 5 characters op the rest not they need to buf everyone if they can’t find good balance

[@frogaroach]

Heres the thing. When a variation or character is aids, then you have to deal with it when you fight that character. When a kameo is aids, I'm fighting on every character.

[@discorabbit]

This game lost its soul to corporations

[@Forever.Remain.Nameless]

Patiently waiting for Injustice 3 😩

[@IC2I]

More than likely never happening. Wb is focusing on ruining their good ips atm

[@thefrostbite]

30 minutes to say the game was always shit. But i appreciate the honesty

[@hackneyman]

Kameos AND fatal blows are the reason I stopped playing the game. Kameos for all the reasons you said. Fatal blows = the most brain dead comeback mechanic that returns on block or whiff. At least in MKX xrays required actual meter

[@LaRew702]

Thank you for calling Tanya and Kung Lao play style idiots with goro.

[@cheapmovies25]

I want you why you can't turn them on and off like the new game should have them but turn them off

[@saeed7099]

I feel like you’re supposed to feel like you’re fighting the kameo right? It’s the team you’re fighting not the sole character

[@straightcaniven906]

Ferra is good bro that’s how she plays yeah she annoying af but it’s ferra u throw her lil ass around

[@brolyschroeder8348]

If they do a tag mode it would save the game who the hell like kameos is so lame

[@infamouskram]

I really dislike WB

[@EdwinLopez-hf3uw]

What's a meta? Asking for a friend

[@ben5878]

The Kameo system in Mortal Kombat 1 may seem like it adds variety, but it ultimately lacks the depth that exclusive character variations bring. Here’s the math: • Kameo Combinations: With 23 characters and 20 Kameos, you get 460 combinations, but these are assist moves, not full variations, and only SOME kameos are truly compatible with each character. So really, you get maybe one, two, or three if you're lucky that are shared across multiple characters. Its a false sense of variety. • Exclusive Variations: If each of the 23 characters had three unique variations, there would be 69 truly unique playstyles. This adds real diversity and keeps the gameplay fresh. The issue with the Kameo system is that it doesn’t give characters distinct fighting styles. It’s like giving Ermac’s Spectral variation to Kenshi-they would share variation specific moves, losing their unique identities. This is a shortcut that developers used to artificially inflate the roster, sacrificing the uniqueness of each fighter. The Kameo system reduces longevity because it doesn’t offer as much room for players to explore different playstyles. Exclusive variations would keep players engaged for longer by encouraging mastery of unique moves and strategies, ultimately making the game feel more dynamic. Overall, potential kameo combination amount is an illusion of variety, and lazy development.

[@mnew4582]

Yep, it was a CHEAP bandaid to trick people into thinking the game had depth. WB=EA

[@aundreii151]

Kameos would have worked if they were all ambush

[@Sadisticpanther]

I honestly don’t mind kameos some characters really benefit off them but you can still do good combo damage off a fighter alone without a Kameo

[@bdavis479x]

For me? The worse. The deal breaker.

[@mnew4582]

Worst decision. You want an unoriginal but decent idea? Do Tag

[@Killmonger23363]

KAMEOS KAMEOS KAMEOS ! Nerf nerfs nerfs . Killed this game

[@lionellrichards3456]

Gamers w gamergate kameo vs Game dev w blackrock kameo

[@brucehtdallas]

Worst

[@antjoz1928]

I love kameos they make every character have so many different ways to play

[@nyqu]

Played so many ppl that only start a combo with kameos, that's brain dead, feel like I'm playing against a kameos and not a main character

[@mnew4582]

😂 lmao, you mean it gives 2 meta options. You're probably the only person who thinks its cool lmao

[@fortunefiderikumo]

@nyqu what exactly is wrong with starting a combo with kameo? yall just saying anything here

[@fortunefiderikumo]

@@mnew4582 not everyone is a meta slave pal,no need to project

[@desmonddarko1826]

@@fortunefiderikumo yeah, let the kameos do all the work whilst your main character spectate lol…thats a you prob if you are a fan of mk

[@Lord_Alimdor]

Worst.

[@n1n9tails]

We basically playing dragon ball a guy kamehameha then instant transmission quickly towards your face it’s to many counters and not enough defensive tools🥸

[@jasongode6179]

I liked the idea of Kameos; it was just poorly executed. Maybe my controller sucks OR MY old self; but its so hard to remember all these combinations & all these timings. I cant win one match Online. Do you think having auto combo system just in the beginner Kombat league;; would help casual players like me? Also;; I think having a No Nerf version would make the game more fun for casuals. Is there Any hope for Invasions? Yeah, they added more variety;; but now..... I cannot even get 100% on any mesa!!